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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. Great to have

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Speaker 1: you with us, Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: on OTA EVE. And that's how we are billing this

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Speaker 1: day because OTAs begin tomorrow. For you're Houston Texans. They'll

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Speaker 1: be out there at the Houston Methodist Training Center slinging

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Speaker 1: it and.

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Speaker 2: We'll be live.

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Speaker 1: Actually we won't be live, but training camp is coming

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Speaker 1: up soon enough, end of July.

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Speaker 2: We'll be live out there for that.

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Speaker 1: But you can bet that twenty four hours from now,

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Speaker 1: we will give you a full review of what we

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Speaker 1: saw at OTA's, including the thoughts of John Harris as

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Speaker 1: he will give you audio observations of what goes down. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what you have to say

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Speaker 1: about practice tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. First time we get to see the

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Speaker 3: full group together, yep. And I know there'll be a

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Speaker 3: lot of eyes on what the offensive line looks like

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Speaker 3: and how it lines up and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people put some stock

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Speaker 2: in that. Some people will try and find.

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Speaker 3: A conspiracy theory or three well how they're lining up,

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Speaker 3: but it is it's intriguing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm Okay, what all right?

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Speaker 3: I didn't expect that you got a factor in a

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Speaker 3: number of different things. And I know everybody's gonna have

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Speaker 3: a kind of a gut reaction. But then it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: is anybody rehab it's still rehabing injury. Is anybody not

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Speaker 3: there just decide has decided not to be there at OTAs?

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Speaker 3: Now we always know Laramy never showed up for that.

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Speaker 3: I don't imagine it would be anybody, especially on the

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Speaker 3: offensive line. Yeah, but you could. Again it's voluntary. I

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Speaker 3: think that's that's gonna be a pretty big deal. So

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Speaker 3: even when you have this first reaction, well, why the

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Speaker 3: hell's that guy in there? Well, you never know. Maybe

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Speaker 3: maybe guys hurt, Maybe guy's rehabbing for something. Maybe a

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Speaker 3: guy's not there because he's at a wedding, or he's

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Speaker 3: at the birth of a child or something. They are

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Speaker 3: all these different things that could be a factor of

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Speaker 3: why such and such isn't there or not in the

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Speaker 3: starting lineup, or whatever it might be. But there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be intrigue with how it lines up, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: No matter what. Now, in my mind, I'm expecting to

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Speaker 3: see Camrabinson, Titus Howard, I'm not sure. At the center

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Speaker 3: of a guest Jared Patterson, Juice Scruggs and Blake Fisher.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think I'll see, but maybe not.

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Speaker 3: And I remember last year when we went to the

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Speaker 3: second week OTAs it was a second week. I remember

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Speaker 3: I was down the way watching and I looked up

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Speaker 3: and went, wait a second. They called the ones out

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Speaker 3: on defense, and there goes Kamari Lassiter.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with to Ot again still there, Minnie camp still there.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, And because of Kamara's progress in a

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Speaker 3: short amount of time, it really kind of reconfigured how

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Speaker 3: their heart of hearts they thought, and we talked to

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Speaker 3: Corey Englin about this too, and the defensive back coaches,

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Speaker 3: I think in their heart, in their minds, they thought, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Camario'll play the nickel, cj Henderson, jeff A. Kudo will

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Speaker 3: play the opposite to the corner, opposite of Derek Stingley,

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Speaker 3: and that's the way we're gonna go. And all of

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Speaker 3: the field. He's got to be on a field. So

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Speaker 3: put Kamario out there, but then what do you do

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Speaker 3: with the nickel? And then they move Jalen down and like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: I think this fits staying in Kamari Jalen at the nickel.

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Speaker 3: All right, we like how this looks. And that's how

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Speaker 3: they ended up playing the season. And the thought was, Jalen,

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Speaker 3: what are the thoughts Jalen? Is that gonna work with

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Speaker 3: Jalen as a nickel guy? And yeah, it worked.

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Speaker 2: It worked.

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Speaker 1: It was almost like they got the inspiration from des

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Speaker 1: King playing that nickel linebacker spot against the Titans and

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Speaker 1: they shut down Derek Henry and let's try that.

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Speaker 3: You with You're exactly right, And and I bring that

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Speaker 3: up because that could happen with this offensive line. Could

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Speaker 3: you see a situation where maybe not first week go ta's,

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Speaker 3: you're like, man Arianta Urser's out of left tackle with

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Speaker 3: the first group Kyle Kamari, Like, man, I was gonna

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Speaker 3: ask you this, Maybe that happens, which is which is

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Speaker 1: If it happens, everybody's healthy, everybody's in attendance. Ursery's out

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Speaker 1: at RSE three, that's more surprising.

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Speaker 2: I think no, Titus being at tackle would be surprising.

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Speaker 2: That would be surprising.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's saying something because Titus has played some right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right tackle.

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Speaker 3: But I think there comes a point where you as

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Speaker 3: a team, as an organization, as a player, you have

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Speaker 3: to realize this is best for the team.

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Speaker 2: This is I think best for the player too.

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Speaker 3: When those two intersect, right then I think that's I

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Speaker 3: don't want to say nirvana, but I think that's the

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Speaker 3: way you go. I think Titus had left guard, and

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Speaker 3: I saw this when he he didn't play so the

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Speaker 3: two games. I mean, he had three games back to

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Speaker 3: back to back in eleven days and left guard. I

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Speaker 3: thought he came out of there pretty well. When he

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Speaker 3: move to the outside and decided he go against Laramie

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Speaker 3: and then he just uses power against Laramie and Laromy

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Speaker 3: him into that decision. I think Titus is fully healthy,

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Speaker 3: ready to go. I think he's the best guard you've

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Speaker 3: had in while. Don't just don't mess with that. You

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Speaker 3: got vetting Cam Robbins, you got a vetting Trent Brown,

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Speaker 3: like Fisher showed last year that there is some potential there.

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Speaker 2: The other things to work on, but there's potential there.

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Speaker 3: And you drafted Ursery, who you don't think is going

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Speaker 3: to be a guard, he's a tackle. Put Titus, lock

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Speaker 3: him in at left guard and let him learn the way.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be weak in week out, and I

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Speaker 3: think Titus is gonna end up being more than a

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Speaker 3: fit at that position, better than he's the better than

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Speaker 3: he's ever been.

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Speaker 1: Well you do that, you might have Cam Robinson at

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Speaker 1: left tackle. You might have Blake or somebody else at

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Speaker 1: right tackle. Adoubtsirae who knows, But that forces Blake and

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Speaker 2: Sure, and you have to be okay with that.

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Speaker 1: We all know that this is under construction and it's

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Speaker 1: WAPs progress and however you want to describe it. So

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Speaker 1: that is interesting that you wouldn't be that surprised to

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Speaker 1: see Ersery out there. But Cam Robinson is the likeliest scenario, right,

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Speaker 1: the scenario you presented, which would be more surprising, right

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Speaker 1: you just present now?

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Speaker 2: Would it be?

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Speaker 3: It would be a surprise to me if Ersery is

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Speaker 3: out there with the ones. But I think Titus Howard

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Speaker 3: at left guard is more set in stone and in

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Speaker 3: place more than anything they could have. Because let's say

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Speaker 3: you moved Titus out the right guard. I'm sorry, right, Tyle,

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Speaker 3: Let's just say you moved Titus out the right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then more than.

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Speaker 3: Likely Blake Fisher, Ariante Erserie, Trent Brown, and Cam Robinson

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Speaker 3: aren't gonna play guard.

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Speaker 2: But I think those four players are.

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Speaker 3: Probably better than the next guard on the list, if

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Speaker 3: that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So now you're taking down the level.

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Speaker 3: You're taking down to me the ability level and how

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Speaker 3: good the offensive line could be down a notch because

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Speaker 3: you're trying to put Titus out there right guard. Look,

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Speaker 3: if those four guys prove they can't handle playing tackle,

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Speaker 3: first of all, we're in a lot of trouble. Secondly, okay,

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Speaker 3: you go with Titus in kind of an emergency situation.

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Speaker 3: But then you got to figure out who's gonna play

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Speaker 3: left guard. And I know we've gone through this for years.

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Speaker 3: Who's playing left guard? Who's playing left guard? Not gonna

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Speaker 3: say it's an easy one to solve. It's probably a

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Speaker 3: little bit easier to solve that than who's playing right tackle.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like they have.

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Speaker 3: More potential solutions playing the two tackle positions than they

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Speaker 3: do playing guard position.

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Speaker 1: How about this, I think I mentioned this on the air,

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Speaker 1: but I saw some stat I'm gonna box it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let me fumble through it here. CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud was in long down in distance, top two or

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Speaker 1: three in the league, yes times absolutely year and he

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Speaker 1: was top two and three in the league in efficiency

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Speaker 2: That says something to me. Says you got to.

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Speaker 1: Run the whole with the ball a whole lot better,

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Speaker 1: and it says you got a hell of a quarterback. Now,

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Speaker 1: somebody posted and I'm sorry, I don't remember, but you

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Speaker 1: know this is all out there because people.

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Speaker 2: He stole it.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, if you're posting NFL highlights, they don't belong to you, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you stole them. But they posted every touchdown past

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Speaker 1: CJ Stroud through last year and it said this was

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Speaker 1: CJ Stroud. I like the caption this was CJ's slump season.

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Speaker 1: And you see the TV passes and you're like, holy

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Speaker 1: small sump season. This is a slump season and he's

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Speaker 1: cooking now. I know not everything was perfect, and I

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Speaker 1: know he missed a throat at Dell in the Detroit

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Speaker 1: game or whatever else do you want to bring up

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Speaker 1: at this particular point as you're listening to this, But

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Speaker 1: we got a hell of a quarterback and you put

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Speaker 1: a better situation in front of him. As far as

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Speaker 1: running the ball consistently, I know, mix it out a

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Speaker 1: good year, but consistently doing what they want to do

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Speaker 1: with it the way Nick Caley wants to handle his business.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a whole lot more interesting

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Speaker 1: through the air when you're running the ball better. They'll

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Speaker 1: compliment each other. Maybe they passed to set up the run.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what we're gonna see. We kind of

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Speaker 1: think we know what we're gonna see, but we won't

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Speaker 1: know it until we see it. And speaking of running back,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the mixing situation, I want to see

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Speaker 1: tomorrow when they get out there for OTAs you know Pierce.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell much with the running backs without pads

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Speaker 1: and all that, but you know, throw the ball to Piers,

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Speaker 1: Throw the ball to what he marks. See how those

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Speaker 1: guys look. You know, Darry can catch the football. I

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Speaker 1: want to see that in the mix along with everything else.

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Speaker 3: I think that's got to be a part of this

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Speaker 3: offense regardless. I think it's gotta be beg ability, the

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Speaker 3: ability of a running back to be a factor in

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Speaker 3: a passing game and not always in checkdown fashion.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Be a guy that maybe you line him up next

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Speaker 3: to CJ. He's got a little wider split, he runs

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Speaker 3: the he runs a wheel route with one and wide

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Speaker 3: receivers to get him matched up on a linebacker. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're just ways you can get this group of running

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Speaker 3: backs I think more involved in the passing game. I

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Speaker 2: That's just bizarro world.

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Speaker 1: That shows you, hey, Levis, don't throw the ball with mayonnaise.

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Speaker 3: Makes perfect sense though, think about it. I mean, how

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, how many times put them behind the You know, that's.

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Speaker 1: Why you can't put points on a defense in this category.

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Speaker 3: That's why DVOA isn't. Well, that's right, that's I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly the way I feel about this.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not fair to the defense to put that

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many I mean, how many throw

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Speaker 2: Defensively, they were good.

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Speaker 1: Texans Invitational Day.

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Speaker 2: They look to them.

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Speaker 1: They look good for about a quarter and three quarters

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Speaker 1: So it's Eagles, Titans, Jets, Dolphins were fourth in yards allowed. Really,

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Speaker 2: They were down a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens defensively statistically, Johnny yep, not overly impressive here

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Speaker 3: Ravens, big dudes up front, Travis Jones, hard to move

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Speaker 3: Vea just gives me nightmares, nightmares of what he can

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Speaker 2: But this is where I'll give Bobby a little credit.

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Speaker 3: We had twelve yards in that game rushing and he

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Speaker 3: moving them, We're getting them on the move. We're doing

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Speaker 3: some good things running the ball. But we have to

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Speaker 2: That's what this really is all about.

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Speaker 3: It's about that offensive line occupying moving and then allowing

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Speaker 3: don't have to create high school like holes. You're not

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Speaker 1: Helodi Nod is one of those huge guys who's light

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Speaker 3: And he played angry. Ye, he was so angry when

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Speaker 3: Prove, and we'll see the initial thoughts of what that

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Speaker 3: love He's invited in here anytime he wants. He's just

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Speaker 3: the best. But when we didn't have him, there was

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Speaker 3: an element of this offense. I felt like that was missing.

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Speaker 3: And all he had to do is go back and

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Speaker 3: look at the Cleveland game. He won catch for seventy

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Speaker 3: six yards. I mean, catches ball in a flat and

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Speaker 3: beats everybody to the end zone like it's not even close.

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Speaker 3: Like that was a that was an element. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that Brevin would have been a guy. Okay, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna throw deep to Brevin. I just felt

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Speaker 3: like last year we lost all sevens of a deep game.

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Speaker 3: But I think with Brevin he would have opened up

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Speaker 3: some of the other areas on the field because of

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Speaker 3: what he could do. And I think about a healthy

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Speaker 3: Brevin with a healthy Cad Stover.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's interesting. Obviously, still have.

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Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz like man, all right, well, this could be

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting if we can get everybody healthy tight

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Speaker 3: end position, wide receiver position, to the positions that have

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Speaker 3: been probably they've those positions have lacked health the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years. But getting Brevin back, getting British Brooks back,

457
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Speaker 3: I think is gonna end up being a pretty massive thing.

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Speaker 3: Having Yakub Johnson here, you know, a guy that has

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Speaker 3: experienced in this system. So I think there gonna be

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Speaker 3: some good position battles. But it's it's good in a

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Speaker 3: way that it's not just oh well, we'll settle on

462
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Speaker 3: the guy that wins this position. It is the guy

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Speaker 3: that wins this position will have a earned It be

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Speaker 3: gonna earn time on the field and targets and opportunities

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Speaker 3: out on the field as well. So I think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be interesting. But I think Brevin having Brevin back,

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Speaker 3: and look, we can talk all we want about the

468
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Speaker 3: offensive line. Off of the line could do some things,

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Speaker 3: but if the tight ends are consistently getting at the

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Speaker 3: point of attack, we're screwed, right, We're flat out screwed,

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Speaker 3: so that that can't happen. And when Irv Smith came

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Speaker 3: here last year, we started getting a little bit more

473
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Speaker 3: done with our inline blocking, and we signed him and

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Speaker 3: brought him back, and I think Irv can do some

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Speaker 3: things for us if he's got to be that y

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Speaker 3: in line tight end.

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Speaker 2: I'm all about it.

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Speaker 3: Whoever it is has to go in there and wage

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Speaker 3: war against those defensive ends that they're gonna see this year,

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Speaker 3: and they're gonna be really good, but they got to

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Speaker 3: win some of those wars.

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Speaker 1: And now for the really important question, who's getting the

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Speaker 1: third team quarterback reps tomorrow? Keten Slovis or Graham Berts.

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Speaker 1: Keten Slovs does First of all, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm not totally sure what Graham can do, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I know, I'm just joking.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if you want to get with the

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Speaker 3: the the eleven, you know, eleven on eleven, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if he can do that yet, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Really, I just don't know because he's got

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Speaker 3: the acl to I don't know if he's been physically clear,

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Speaker 3: oh because of the injury that I'm.

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Speaker 2: Throwing the ball around in Brookie camp drills.

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Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, you get to eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 3: you got dudes at his feet. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. If I don't know, I

497
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Speaker 3: just I'm saying, I just don't know if you're there

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Speaker 3: six more weeks.

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Speaker 1: Well, wait a minute, we're two weeks away from mini

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Speaker 1: camp and then about six weeks from training camp, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 2: We're eight weeks from training camp, it seems that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is late May here, I mean

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Speaker 1: in two months, we're a training camp two months less.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, because they're gonna report the week of

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Speaker 1: the twenty first at some point and practice that week.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how it goes. So we're right there, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: right there, we are right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see it, all right. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to catch up with Jonathan Alexander. He's coming up

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about OTAs some more, more on this

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Speaker 1: defensive line situation, what he's seeing with the offense, what

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Speaker 1: he wants to see, and what he will report on.

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Speaker 1: It's all coming up here on Texans Radio. Oh, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Not that you went anywhere, and we didn't go anywhere either.

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Speaker 1: We were right here while you listen to the those

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Speaker 1: important messages. It's Texans Radio, Mark vandermir and John Harris

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Speaker 1: with you, and it's Tuesday. That means we're joined by

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle, Jonathan, how's it going.

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Speaker 4: It's going well. I appreciate y'all having it.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's always fun to have you on, especially on

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Speaker 1: OTA Eve. It's the eve of OTAs, so the team's

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Speaker 1: been out there doing stuff. But tomorrow we get our

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Speaker 1: first look at the Houston Texans offense versus defense.

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Speaker 2: They won't be in pads, but it's something and a.

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Speaker 1: Few weeks ago, at least recently, I asked you what

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Speaker 1: you were going to be looking at first, and we

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Speaker 1: all went offense when we were asked this question.

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Speaker 2: But let me ask you this. Let's start here on defense.

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Speaker 1: What are you looking at on this Houston Texans defense

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Speaker 1: first and foremost when you get out there to OTAs

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Speaker 1: and you see them in action.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think probably the biggest thing is whether they

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Speaker 4: can take another step. You know, obviously they brought a

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Speaker 4: lot of guys back, and then they added CJ. Gardner

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Speaker 4: Johnson Woods with a huge pickup given what he's able

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Speaker 4: to do when he's healthy, had two six interception seasons

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Speaker 4: and so it'll be interesting to see what he adds

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Speaker 4: to the secondary that was already elite coming in. I

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Speaker 4: think one thing that he could help them with is

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Speaker 4: maybe their red zone defense. They gave up too many

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Speaker 4: passing touchdowns last year. But that and what Christian Harris

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Speaker 4: will do. You know, he got hurt early last year,

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Speaker 4: and when he came back, you know Henry Totoe had

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Speaker 4: won that job. So I'll be interested to see that

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Speaker 4: linebacker competition in particular.

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Speaker 3: I think one thing we're not going to be able

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Speaker 3: to determine through OTA's Jonathan is what happens with the

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Speaker 3: interior defensive line because you add Rankins, bring back Foley,

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Speaker 3: bring back Mario, so you essentially bring back the crew

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Speaker 3: from last year and you add rankings to the mix,

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Speaker 3: and you got Tommy toki I who played very well

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Speaker 3: the last second half of the year. He still have

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Speaker 3: Kurt Heinish here. I know we won't be able to

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Speaker 3: determine anything really with the interior defensive line, But how

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Speaker 3: how difficult do you think that decision is going to be?

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Speaker 3: Because I think low key, I think that might be

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Speaker 3: the hardest decision of all of them, including receiver, including

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Speaker 3: the offensive line, is trying to figure out which five

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Speaker 3: or six you're gonna end up keeping, because that's a

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Speaker 3: pretty good unit right now. What are your thoughts going

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Speaker 3: into OTAs about what we might see, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: mention the rookies that they drafted and signed. What are

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Speaker 3: your thoughts about the interior defensive line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. It is a

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Speaker 4: really intense competition, you know, especially adding fully Potocosi. When

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Speaker 4: they did that, that made it a little bit difficult

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Speaker 4: for me. Like I thought I had an idea of

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Speaker 4: who they keep. Now adding Foley brings another important piece

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Speaker 4: into your room. So you know, of course you got

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Speaker 4: Mario Edwards, Foley, Sheldon Rankings, Tim Settle. Yeah, so four

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Speaker 4: really good rotational players, barn they stay healthy. And then

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Speaker 4: like you mentioned, you know a lot of guys. You know,

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Speaker 4: Kurt Hyness has experience, Tom and Togy I played really

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Speaker 4: well down the stretch. He's a guy that I think

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Speaker 4: could really make the roster. And I feel like I

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Speaker 4: might be even missing somebody, you know. I think it'll

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Speaker 4: be hard for Keyante Hamilton to make this team, extremely hard,

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Speaker 4: just as it was for some of their rookies last year.

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Speaker 4: And make no mistake about it, Demiico is going to

582
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Speaker 4: play the best players. He's gonna keep the best players

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Speaker 4: on the team because that defensive line is super important

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Speaker 4: to him, and he thinks it's the recipe for success

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Speaker 4: and what allows him to play at their best. And

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Speaker 4: then you know, De Nico actually plays some defense tackle two,

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Speaker 4: so they got a really good room.

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Speaker 2: There, man.

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Speaker 1: And then you get a guy like Hamilton in the

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Speaker 1: third fourth quarter of a preseason game or two erupts

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Speaker 1: makes a big plays and then you can't protect him.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna. I'm put one hundred dollars on the table

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Speaker 2: right now. You two can split it, Okay.

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Speaker 3: If Junior Tifuna does not somehow play on this Rock,

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Speaker 3: play on this team this year, it'll be a surprise

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Speaker 3: to me. Really, yeah, Junior, I'm done. I'm telling you

597
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Speaker 3: right now. Junior Taffuna, the undrafted free agent. I know

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Speaker 3: they gave him some guaranteed money. And the thing about

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Speaker 3: it is was seven round pick. You almost can make

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Speaker 3: the case because that's guaranteed money, you know, in the

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Speaker 3: case even though he's undrafted, gotta make it.

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Speaker 2: He yeah, like he's got to make it. Almost over

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Speaker 2: Counto Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: But I saw Junior Tafunu walk out the hallway the

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Speaker 3: other day and I was like, damn, okay, Like he's

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Speaker 3: bigger than TOGII. He is bigger than heiess like by

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Speaker 3: a long shot. He looks like a walking brick. What

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Speaker 3: if you cut him. I'm just hypothesizing here.

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Speaker 1: And he gets that money, right, yeah, then you sign

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Speaker 1: him too the practice squad, he gets more money. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's basically he's signing him to a new deal, and

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Speaker 1: then he makes the active roster at some point and

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Speaker 1: there it is. But Johnny, let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: since you you made that call, everybody's healthy. He's still

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Speaker 1: on the team. Everybody's healthy. There's I'm telling you right

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Speaker 1: now that he's gonna find a way, find a way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's got I think people are gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that Week one against the Rams is

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Speaker 3: part of that, I understand, But I think that down

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Speaker 3: the road, like togy I, I think the foon is

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Speaker 3: going to be a part of this team.

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Speaker 1: Jeez, Jonathan, let's switch to the offense here. So Laramie's

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Speaker 1: not on the team. As we all know, who's the

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Speaker 1: next Pro bowler on offense on the line, on the line,

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Speaker 1: give me your next Pro bowler on the offensive line, who's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna make it for Okay, let's tack onto this question.

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Speaker 3: Okay, who is it and how close is that player

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Speaker 3: to actually being voted to the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't go there.

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Speaker 1: I just said when they went, I said, what the win?

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Speaker 2: Part of It's exciting though, too?

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Speaker 4: Is it not Jonathan so Pro Bowler this year or maybe.

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Speaker 1: Whenever it happens? Who's the next guy on the offensive line?

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Speaker 1: And it can't be a guy not on the roster.

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Speaker 1: The next guy in the offensive line to make the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Among the guys that they have in the roster, I

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Speaker 4: think it's probably Arion tate Urseri, just given we don't

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Speaker 4: know how he loved He played very well in Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: was a third team All American.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think we've seen what we've seen from Cam Robinson

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Speaker 4: and I think he can be good. But is he

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 3: God?

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Speaker 4: Not sure. I think what we've seen what we've seen

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Speaker 4: from Titus Howard, he's a silid guy. But we don't

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Speaker 4: know what we'll get from Arianta Rasery, who seems to

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Speaker 4: have a lot of potential. And it's a guy that

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Speaker 4: the Texans obviously really liked, considering they tried to trade up,

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Speaker 4: you know, twenty spots to get him and ended up

652
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: trade in trading up ten spots to get him. So

653
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 4: you know, I'm going to put my money on Ariante.

654
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go with that, Jonathan, because I happened to

655
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: see that report, and a lot of people saw the

656
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: report about the Texans. You know, I watched the Patriots video,

657
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: and I think there were people that were convinced, oh, well,

658
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: they drafted Trevon Henderson, that's the Texans were coming up

659
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: to get, but instead it was actually coming up to

660
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 3: thirty eight to go get Arianta Ursery. Your thoughts about

661
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: the Texans going up all the way to number thirty

662
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: eight to make sure that they got the Minnesota tackled.

663
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: Do you think that was because a how much they

664
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: really liked him, or be the fact that after Ursery

665
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: there was maybe gonna be kind of a big gap

666
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: between what was left up on the tackle board to draft.

667
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, based on my understanding of my reporting,

668
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: that was a little bit of both. I mean, they

669
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: really liked him. He was projected to be a late

670
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: first round, early second round pick, and there was a

671
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: thought that the Bears needed an offensive tackle and they

672
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: picked a number thirty nine, and the Texans were trying

673
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 4: to get ahead of the Bears. They're at thirty nine,

674
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 4: and fortunately for the Texans, the Bears didn't take an

675
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: offensive tackle, and likely it appears after the fact that

676
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: they weren't gonna take one. And you know he fell

677
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: Arianta Ursery failed at number forty eight, and like you said,

678
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: you know, had they not gotten him, then you know,

679
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: it would have been hard to come across an offensive

680
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 4: tackle that you really liked. So I think it was

681
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: a little bit bit of both. I mean, just based

682
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: on my porty is a little bit of both.

683
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: All right, So offensively tomorrow, boy, I'm really eager to

684
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: see this. You know, I'm gonna read way too much

685
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: into the depth chart situation tomorrow.

686
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: I know that's I will not be anywhere near anybody

687
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: when that first offensive line walks out.

688
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm just not.

689
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan, how do you approach that? As a reporter for

690
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle. You're the beat writer. You don't want

691
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: to read too much into it. Yet it's all gonna

692
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: be out there in front of you. How do you

693
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: approach that?

694
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I take it with a grain

695
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: of salt. This is who the Texans feel probably would

696
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: be first one, and then they mix it up a

697
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: bit too, but you really won't know until you see

698
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: the guys who really stand out, you know, later in

699
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: OTA's and then in training camp, and nothing is decided

700
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: until the end of training camp. Really. I mean, we

701
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: saw Kamari Lassaner moving all over the place until he

702
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 4: finally solidified as outside cornerback in OTA's and really started

703
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: to stand out there, and that's what earned him the

704
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: starting spot. But they mixed and match a lot of

705
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: the defense linemen, and not everybody's going to be there's voluntary,

706
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: So I very much take it with a grain of

707
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: salt and really decide with my eyes training camp.

708
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, trust your eyes all you should do. Don't listen

709
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: to anybody else, just trust your eyes, which Jonathan does that.

710
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I think there's always a story to where guys line

711
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: up right. Somebody might be heard, oh, we want to

712
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: have a look at this guy over here because.

713
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Of whatever experimentation.

714
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: Fisher at left tackle in trading camp last year is

715
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: the greatest example.

716
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad you went there because that was going to

717
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: be my question to actually both of you, and I'll

718
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: start with Jonathan on this.

719
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: You brought up Blake Fisher, and I think Blake Fisher.

720
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: Is eventually going to be the starting right tackle, and

721
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: maybe it's day one, maybe he holds that all the

722
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: way through. Both of you, Jonathan, you start, what do

723
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: you think is the outlook for Blake Fisher in year

724
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: two here for the Texans.

725
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he has a chance to really

726
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: prove that how we saw the end where he played

727
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: against playoffs and struggles against Chris Jones, which is is

728
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: really hard to hold up against Chris Jones. I think

729
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: he has a real chance to prove that he is,

730
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: you know, an approved player here and I think they're

731
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: going to give him every chance to earn that starting spot.

732
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: You know, he'll likely be going against Trent Brown and

733
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: maybe even Arianta Ursie. So I think it could be

734
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: a good year for him, but he has to show

735
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 4: a lot of improvement win is one on one matchups,

736
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: and he's going to get some good players in camp

737
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: and the Neil Hunter and Will Anderson Jr.

738
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan, how have you been satisfying your sports jones this

739
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: offseason and especially lately NBA playoffs astros? Have you been

740
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: watching UFL? What do you do non NFL wise to

741
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: satisfy that sports urge I.

742
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: Haven't been watching UFL very much, but have been checking

743
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: out NBA. I'm a I'm a big NBA fan, so

744
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: I've been watching these playoffs and it's missed some good basketball.

745
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, and you know I used to back in,

746
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: you know when when tennis had a lot of stars.

747
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: I used to watch a lot of tennis. But just

748
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 4: a lot of my favorite stars are no longer playing, unfortunately,

749
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: in both men's and women. So it's been a lot

750
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 4: of U n B A and and and and watching

751
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 4: some Brave scores because I grew up a Braves fan

752
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 4: for most of my life and you're finally starting to win.

753
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I know bost y'all miss this.

754
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: I watched one of the greatest comebacks I've ever seen

755
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: in the sporting event, and it literally just I think

756
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: I'm having a Friday.

757
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: But you know we missed it. So I know you

758
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: missed it. Okay, what is it? U c l A

759
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: South Carolina Super Regional Softball. I did miss that. I

760
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: know you. I know I know both of you. I

761
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: know both of you missed it.

762
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: Did miss but it caught my eye in like the

763
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: fifth or sixth inning, and so I went into the

764
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: kitchen to do some cooking, and I was like, my.

765
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: Wife turned it off. I said, way, I want to

766
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: see the end of that.

767
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: So u c LA even though there it was this

768
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: game two, so they were the home team. They're down five,

769
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: they're down four to one. In the seventh, they got nothing.

770
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: They put a pinch hitter up there and hit super Regional.

771
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: She gets a walk and it hit and it hit

772
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: an they hit and all of a sudden, girl comes

773
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: up leaves him in home runs, but it's zero for

774
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: the Regional. She has had a hit in two games.

775
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: Bomb they went five to four. Turn around Game three,

776
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: blow them out. They're up to zero going into seventh.

777
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: They score like four to seventh to get some insurance

778
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: us they went six. And it was the greatest thing.

779
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I love because that's that's my guilty pleasure

780
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: at softball, baseball, college softball and baseball.

781
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: There's Sturdy Moore in college softball. Yeah, they're scoring a

782
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: ton of college softball. But she hits. She yacks one

783
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: and it makes it five to four.

784
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: They win in game two and you're like, oh, South

785
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: Carolina is dead and low hold next day South Carolina

786
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: was South Carolina was dead. All right, Jonathan Thunder, Wolves, Nicks, Pacers,

787
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: Let's go back to basketball, because I know that's of

788
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: those four is the fate of complete that the Thunder

789
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: are the best of the four and are gonna win

790
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: the championship.

791
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. They're the most talented team talked

792
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: to bottom. I would love to see the Wolves win

793
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: because I like Anthony Edwards, you know his game a lot.

794
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: But I think they just the Thunder just kind of

795
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 4: solidified it with that win last night, and it seems

796
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 4: like they're probably probably face the Pacers, who, you know,

797
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: even though they lost the other night. I think they're

798
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: their better team and they just have something special going on.

799
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 4: So Pacers Thunder. I think Thunder has the top team,

800
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 4: best team talked to bottom.

801
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know if either one of you guys

802
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: saw the end of that game. This this I hate

803
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: this strategy decision up three foul or let him shoot

804
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: the three. I mean the Thunder played it perfectly, they

805
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: didn't allow allow him to get a shot.

806
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: Off, but I hate that. I hate that rule.

807
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: If I could change a rule in sports, I think

808
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: that would be the.

809
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: One I would change. That's a good one to change.

810
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: That's a good one to change.

811
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: Potentially you potentially take away, you know, an exciting moment

812
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: from the game. So I agree with you.

813
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems the NFL would take it away, or

814
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: at least try to.

815
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Take away the push.

816
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: What about if you do get an actual foul, right,

817
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: you get an the legal screen, you get well, actually

818
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: that's against the offense, but something you know, somebody knocks

819
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: somebody over or whatever.

820
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: But I get it. I get what you're saying. Intentional.

821
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: It was a horrible way to end a really great game.

822
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: It really was.

823
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: It really was. And there were too many points scored.

824
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean, and you got to find a way to

825
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: get on the MVP. Okay, you got to double them.

826
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: You got to do something here, Jonathan, If you were

827
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: still in the Carolinas and covering the Panthers, how would

828
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: you feel about what's going on at North Carolina. I

829
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: feel like the Belichick story is an NFL story, yet

830
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: here he is coaching college football.

831
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: It's a weird deal. As a media member.

832
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: If you were still there, I know your beat is

833
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: the Panthers, but say at the NFL and you're in

834
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: the state where the coach with the most Super Bowls.

835
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: Ever is coaching, but he's coaching a college team. How

836
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: would you approach all that? And this is an off

837
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: field story at the very least, So what are you thinking?

838
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I covered Carolina turn Hills football too,

839
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: so I mean it's interesting if I was covering the Panthers.

840
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 4: Is always something you look at because you know, I'm

841
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: not convinced Bill Belichick will try to remain in college

842
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: for much longer. But it's always interesting and everybody has

843
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: their eyes on it, especially with Bill Belichick and his

844
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 4: girlfriend and how that is kind of disrupting. It really

845
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: looks like a circus at this point. So something you

846
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: always keep your eye on. And you're right about because

847
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick is synonymous with the NFL and that's where

848
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: he made his market. Still considered arguably the greatest coach

849
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: in the NFL.

850
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: Along those lines, Jonathan living in North Carolina the Hurricanes

851
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 3: when they're good, it's kind of a wild scene. Were

852
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: you ever asked to cover the Hurricanes in the NHL?

853
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: I was. I was like a backup, not necessarily a backup,

854
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: but as like a number two for some of their

855
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 4: playoff games and writing I actually learned on the fly

856
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: and those games are crazy. Like the crowd at Carolina Hurricanes,

857
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: it's a pretty exciting atmosphere, but they're they're losing pretty bad.

858
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we might get hockey here, you I

859
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: know Mike yep well, Mike xanderd covering hockey and Texans.

860
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's got full here.

861
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: I know, what's a dual threat. Yes, So what do

862
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: you have for us, Jonathan? Obviously you're going to talk

863
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: about ot as, right about that?

864
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: What else?

865
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

866
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: I have something about ot AS and what I'm looking

867
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: for and then stories from that. Earlier this week on Monday,

868
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Speaker 4: posted the story about guys who could be up for

869
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: contract extensions this year and next offseason.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. Thanks a lot, Jonathan for joining us.

871
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely thanks for having me.

872
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: There's Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up. Among

873
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Speaker 1: other NFL things, is Tom Cruise that Tom Brady of

874
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: Cinema we'll discuss It's Texans Radio.

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00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: Back to it final segment here on the show.

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00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: Anything that comes up, it's a grab bag anything going

877
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: on around the league or around the world. And this

878
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: question that I posed going into the last break, John Harris,

879
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: you have to answer the question, is Tom Cruise the

880
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady of cinema? Yes, our modern era.

881
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay. You know my wife and I did on

882
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: Friday night, I think you eat Dead Reckoning.

883
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: Nope, we went back and watched the original Mission Impossible. Oh,

884
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: the original movie, the original Tom Cruise Mission Impossible.

885
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: To say about this movie say about this.

886
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: I mean, as soon as I saw John Voyd in it,

887
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, he's the villain.

888
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: I know this.

889
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: I mean John Voyd played the villain in like everything

890
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: Varsity lose everything except the champ but that was a

891
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: you know, right, but he played the villain and everything

892
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: and I we.

893
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: Got done with this movie was nineteen ninety six.

894
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: They hadn't they had flip phones, they had these old MacBooks.

895
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was cool to watch and

896
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: I was like, I like this. But then you look

897
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: at what Tom Cruise has done. The Mission Impossible.

898
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: Series Top Gun.

899
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: I mean thirty years after Top Gun, thirty years, maybe

900
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: forty years, he comes back and does another one yeap

901
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: and it's as successful, if not more than the first one.

902
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 4: It.

903
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Jullia is credited and maybe incorrectly, but saving theaters is

904
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: part of the resume because people flocked to see that

905
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: top Gun Maverick movie.

906
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and exactly it was. It's not a perfect movie,

907
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: but it was perfectly fun.

908
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: Right, it was great. It didn't offend anybody. It was

909
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: really great. Everybody got back to the movies and had

910
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: a good time, and Tom was entertaining everybody. He takes

911
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: this stuff very seriously in that way. He is the

912
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady of cinema, especially in this era where they

913
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Speaker 1: need to get butts in seats in the theater. But

914
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you my beef with Mission Impossible one okay

915
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: voids in it.

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Speaker 2: And this is no spoiler the movies from the nineties,

917
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: so forget it. Thirty years ago.

918
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: He's playing Jim Phelps, who was Peter Graves in the

919
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: TV show. And those who are more seasoned like me

920
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: will understand this. You can't kill Jim Phelps or make

921
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: Jim Phelps a bad guy.

922
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: That sucks. Jim Phelps was a good guy, not a

923
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: bad guy.

924
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: He's the guy who listened to the tape recorder Peter Graves,

925
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: and he should be a good guy.

926
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Speaker 2: And I didn't like that.

927
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Speaker 1: And none of the character is repeated except for him

928
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: from the TV show, which I was okay with, but

929
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: it was less of a team thing in my opinion,

930
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: a more of an Ethan Hunt thing. But you know

931
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Speaker 1: what I got over that after Mission Impossible two, which

932
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: was so so from three was okay because it has

933
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: Phillip Seymour Hoffman. But the rest of them I just

934
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: think are great amusement park ride movies. It is one

935
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: of the greatest action franchises ever, no question about that.

936
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Speaker 1: It's not as good as James Bond or something like that,

937
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: but it's really high caliber entertainment.

938
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Speaker 3: When we went to Santa Clair in twenty sixteen, we

939
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: were out there for a whole week. The night before

940
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: we played the Niners.

941
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: You're getting not You're getting your trips from? We went

942
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: to go see Mission Impossible, didn't we twenty fifteen Richmond

943
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: against Washington. We saw them again. I get all the

944
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: names confused, Ghost Protocol or one of those. Well I

945
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: looked at the dates. Yeah, I looked at the dates.

946
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: The twenty fifteen one whatever that was.

947
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: Oh, you know what, we went. We went saw Bad Moms.

948
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 3: We saw Bad Moms sixteen.

949
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

950
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: They then Deep and High and uh, Matt Patterson of

951
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: all people, the three of us went to go see

952
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: Girls Trip.

953
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: Was that good?

954
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: The Green Bride? Not at the Green Bride, but in Louisbourg,

955
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: West Virginia. And I'm sitting with Deep, like, have you've

956
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: seen Girls Trip? You kind of know we're watching this

957
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: and it is like, now, nothing is ever going to

958
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: offend me. But I'm sitting there with Deep like, I

959
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 3: don't know how it's good impact her. She had already

960
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: been on a heater because she did not want to

961
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: be at the Friar. She hated the Greenbriar. And we're

962
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: watching and we cackled. I mean we were cackling out loud.

963
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 3: So we try and make a movie each and every trip.

964
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 3: So I don't know what it'll be for when we

965
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: go to Minnesota, Detroit or whatever season, who knows, but

966
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: we'll try.

967
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Speaker 1: We try and get a movie and if we if

968
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Speaker 1: we have the time, we have the time, if we

969
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: have the time and opportunity. Yeah, because when we were

970
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: in Santa Clair, I went we went to in and

971
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: Out for the first time.

972
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Speaker 2: He came in and out Believer.

973
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, it's good. It's it's not what a burger,

974
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: but it's good anyway, I know. And this is like

975
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: arguing religion. Uh did you see the fight with that?

976
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: Did you see the Brett Favre doc? Oh I did good?

977
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: I did?

978
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: I Wow?

979
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: Wow?

980
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: Wow?

981
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Uh is it worth doing? I mean, is it that good?

982
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Is it that great a subject? Because they get into

983
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: all the off field stuff and that's clearly what's right.

984
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: It's not a football life.

985
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

986
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: They danced through his his career pretty quickly until they

987
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: get to the Jets, and that's when they start the

988
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: Jets sturger stuff. And then they obviously they wanted to

989
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: get to and then they got to the Mississippi all

990
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: the Mississippi welfare funds and all that kind of stuff,

991
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: and you know, there's there there is a very very

992
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: very small part of me that like he he can

993
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: defend himself. I can, I can see it, but I

994
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: but when you see the text messages and emails and

995
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: stuff that he sent, you realize, oh, this is not

996
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: not good, not good at all. But when Brett Favre

997
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: was playing, it always felt like, other than John Madden,

998
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 3: there was always one of the guy that seemed to

999
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: kind of I don't say defend Farv, but it was

1000
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: always with Peter King.

1001
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: Okay, Peter King is interviewed in this and what does

1002
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: he say, Is it not good?

1003
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: It's not it's not so much it's not good, but

1004
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: it's it's not.

1005
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: Look, you know, he's not making excuses for Farv, right,

1006
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: He's like, here's the deal flawed very much. So now

1007
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: Farv is not interviewed, which is not surprising. Nobody from

1008
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: the far family is interviewed. But one of the things

1009
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: that I thought took a little bit of a turn.

1010
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: They talked about his dad, Irv, and they said, when

1011
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: Irv died, this is an No. Three if you remember, Yeah,

1012
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Farv is that great game against the Raiders on Monday

1013
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: night when right after his dad died. Right, They made

1014
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: mention that when that happened, Farv was just on Farst plan.

1015
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: A different situation.

1016
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: They told a story when Farr was in Green Bay,

1017
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: Mike Sherman's head coach, and Farv did something dumb and

1018
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: Sherman's kind of laying into him a little bit, and

1019
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: far basically, coming off the field, looked at him and said,

1020
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: what do you do about it?

1021
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: And then walked back and sat down laughing. That's in

1022
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: the documentary. Yes, okay, I'm in, Yes, I'm in. I'm

1023
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna watch it. That's it, that's it, all right. So

1024
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow night we're gonna watch OTAs during the day and

1025
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: at night you can visually on the radio watch them

1026
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: with us because we will describe some of the things

1027
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: that we saw that are important to you Texans fans.

1028
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: So that'll be on tomorrow night's program. Can't wait for

1029
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: it than John McClain on Thursday. It's all coming up

1030
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: this week. Thanks so much for listening. Area forty five

1031
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: coming up next. You got to hear what those guys

1032
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: have to say about everything in the world of sports.

1033
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Speaker 2: Have a great night, Go Texans.