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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. The US makes a significant offer for the

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Speaker 1: return of Brittney Grinder and Paul Wheeling, but no one

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Speaker 1: This day, President Biden meets with Grinder's wife and Whelan's

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick Davis and Jeanie Chanzano are with

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Speaker 1: us on this Friday. There's renewed interest, if not urgency,

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Speaker 1: around the cases of Brittany Grinder and Paul Wheelan, of course,

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Speaker 1: That's happening today. We have stayed in touch with them throughout.

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Speaker 1: They have not responded to our offer. They have not

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Speaker 1: Were joined to talk about it by William Butler. John

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this before when we went through the verdict,

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Speaker 1: The special Master has been chosen. Judge Raymond Deary has

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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer certainly seemed

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Speaker 1: a couple who would be willing to go for a

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Speaker 1: shutdown over this. But it really, Joe, I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone thinks that it's enough. Um, they're definitely the momentum

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Speaker 1: on both sides is to really find and get something done.

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Speaker 1: The question is when are we going to see anything,

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Speaker 1: because we don't have bill text yet. Uh there's still

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about what this is gonna look like.

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Speaker 1: In time is running out. The House has seven legislative

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Speaker 1: days left before sept You cover the leadership, Emily, and

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a conversation we had

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Speaker 1: were in the room for it, for Nancy Pelosi and

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Speaker 1: whether she would run to be Speaker again if in

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Speaker 1: fact Democrats managed to keep the House as she's predicting

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll actually gain seats according to uh Madam Speaker,

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that? And is that something

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Speaker 1: that you would foresee if Democrats own the House again?

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Speaker 1: She's not going to hand that gavel to someone else, right,

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Speaker 1: So I gotta say, Sienna, and actually did pull a

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Speaker 1: says yes, if Democrats pulled off a win, which is

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Speaker 1: that would give Pelosi momentum to potentially take another turn

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Speaker 1: that that would be it. And the other thing you've

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Speaker 1: benefit Nancy Pelosi one iota to say that she's not

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Speaker 1: going to be speaker next year, that she's going to

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Speaker 1: wants to give depression that they will be staying at

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Speaker 1: the top as long as they possibly can. See she's

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Speaker 1: got something in come with Joe Biden. Right now, you're

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Speaker 1: going to get Are you going to Taco Night at

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Speaker 1: the Press Club from here? Uh? You know, I have

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Speaker 1: a couple of other plans for tonight, but I think

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Speaker 1: I'll be at the Taco Night next week and I

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Speaker 1: hopeful to see you there and any other members too.

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Speaker 1: I love that. So you know, she's Emily Looms large

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Speaker 1: at the National Press Club and maybe I will take

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Speaker 1: you up on that next week. Emily, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being with us. As always, you'll be hearing

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Speaker 1: Emily soon on the broadcast from Bloomberg. Government Congress reporter

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Speaker 1: Emily Wilkins here on Bloomberg Sound On. So what do

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Speaker 1: you think here about this idea of putting off the

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Speaker 1: same sex marriage bill until after the election. Does that

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Speaker 1: ease up on everybody? To get a couple of Republicans

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Speaker 1: to make it possible? They'd need ten to make it

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Speaker 1: work as a standalone at least in the Senate. If

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Speaker 1: that happens, we'll check in with Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzano.

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Speaker 1: Put it to the panel and something really cool that's

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Speaker 1: going on that'll bring us to outer space. It's all

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Speaker 1: coming up. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You

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Speaker 1: sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio, And so

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Speaker 1: hurry up and wait is the message on marriage equity

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Speaker 1: in Congress, namely the Senate? Whereas we just discussed with

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Speaker 1: Emily Wilkins, Chuck Schumer vowed to have a vote in

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Speaker 1: weeks later and we're hearing from Tammy Baldwin that it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen until after the election. And the logic there,

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Speaker 1: as Emily explained, is there might be a little bit

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Speaker 1: less pressure. Maybe you get a couple of Republicans to

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Speaker 1: vote for this without having to worry about a looming election.

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Speaker 1: We reassemble the panel. Rick Davis and Jeannie Schanzano are

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Speaker 1: with us, of course Bloomberg Politics contributors, and our signature panel. Rick,

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Speaker 1: is that gonna work for any Republicans who would not

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Speaker 1: that this is actually I tend to be counterintuitive, but

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Speaker 1: this indicates to me that there may I mean, you

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Speaker 1: need you know ten They've got four six more Republicans

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Speaker 1: and my my, look, I mean, the Democrats easily could

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Speaker 1: say we're gonna walk the plank, We're gonna force you

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Speaker 1: Republicans to vote against this and make a political issue

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Speaker 1: got this spending bill that could have a Joe Mansion

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Speaker 1: piece of legislation attached to it. But my gosh, if

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Speaker 1: more than what is it eighty Now Republicans or Democrats

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Speaker 1: rather threatening to shut down the government. Is that going

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Speaker 1: to see the light of day? You know, there are

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Speaker 1: so many things that are questionable about this. I am

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Speaker 1: so curious as to what kind of off ramp we

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Speaker 1: against this. You know, we are, what fourteen days from

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Speaker 1: So you're looking at a very limited time frame, and

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Speaker 1: Joe Mansion really really wants this included. You know, one

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Speaker 1: But you've got to imagine many Republicans are not feeling

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Speaker 1: with it? Then? Do they just drop this permitting reform

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Speaker 1: And just as curious to me is the fact that

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Speaker 1: He didn't force Republicans to vote. Maybe means we're going

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Speaker 1: What's Joe Mansion doing? Rick, He's trying to get oil

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Speaker 1: executives involved to kind of push the legislation. He's looking

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Speaker 1: of day? You know, it might? I mean a deal

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Speaker 1: you know, inflation Reduction Act. Uh. It seems like a

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Speaker 1: the big you know, inflation celebration the other day that

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Speaker 1: this to him? Yeah, he was strumming that guitar as

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Speaker 1: have made a deal with Joe Manchin, but it takes

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Speaker 1: the problem. He will be very frustrated if this doesn't

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Speaker 1: get through. But I think the stunning thing to me

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Speaker 1: And we do need this kind of reform. You know

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Speaker 1: But we don't have that discussion in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: to people observing it. After November, are we shut down

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Speaker 1: as the store closed? Rick assuming that at least the

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Speaker 1: the potential in December. What do you what do you

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Speaker 1: outside of a budget for in terms of the Biden agenda,

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Speaker 1: push it through. And on top of that, you heard

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Speaker 1: you're hard pressed to imagine they would allow anything to

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Speaker 1: go through at that point. Rick and Jennie with us.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, it's Bloomberg sound on. And lastly, today it's

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Speaker 1: like something out of the movie Armageddon. You remember this scene?

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Speaker 1: What kind of damage do we damage? Total? Sir, that's

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Speaker 1: what we call a global killer, global killer, the end

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Speaker 1: of mankind. It doesn't matter where it hits, nothing would survive,

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Speaker 1: not even bacteria. Than god, what do we do? Well,

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Speaker 1: you call NASA in this case instead of a global killer,

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Speaker 1: though it's a regional killer. Well it could be. That's

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Speaker 1: this is part of a test that NASA is conducting

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Speaker 1: right now to save you from being hit by an asteroid.

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Speaker 1: This is real work. Happening on behalf of you by

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Speaker 1: your government. NASA calls it the DART program, in which

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Speaker 1: keep it from crashing into our planet. This is real.

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Speaker 1: In fact, let's go back to last November when they

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Speaker 1: launched this thing in California. Listen five four three two one.

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Speaker 1: There it goes slipped off the Falcon nine at DART

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Speaker 1: an asteroid. It's pretty pretty amazing. DART stands for double

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Speaker 1: Asteroid Redirect Test. No, it's DART will be used as

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Speaker 1: a battering ram essentially to crash into this, uh, this

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Speaker 1: asteroid that is actually I'm told it's a moonlit as

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Speaker 1: as I read. Nancy Shabbitt is the team leader here,

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Speaker 1: The regional devastation could be the size of a city

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Speaker 1: or a small state or a small country, and so

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Speaker 1: it is very devastating, very rare, no known threat. But

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Speaker 1: objects of that size and why de MorphOS is such

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Speaker 1: a perfect target for this first planetary defense test mission

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Speaker 1: to Morphus. This is like right out of a sci

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Speaker 1: fi movie. They're gonna have everything, but Bruce willis on board.

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Speaker 1: And here's the cool part. It actually hits the asteroid

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Speaker 1: on September. It's almost there. In fact, the little spacecraft

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Speaker 1: came out of the rocket and it's going there. Now.

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Speaker 1: There'll be an adjacent spacecraft to take pictures of it

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Speaker 1: all and Rick and Genie. Apparently the images, according to

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Speaker 1: NASA will be stunning. The question is can they save

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Speaker 1: us from an asteroid? Rick? This is truly science fiction

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Speaker 1: turn science fact. Yeah, this is right out of Armageddon,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies. And uh, and I hope

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Speaker 1: they're successful because you know, I want something more than

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Speaker 1: bacteria to survive for hit by an asteroid. I mean

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Speaker 1: that we get hit by asteroids a lot, but we

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Speaker 1: don't look like the Moon, which you know, it looks

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Speaker 1: like just a a sand trap. After nine holes of

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Speaker 1: golf with me. But the reality of it is is,

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Speaker 1: you know, all these things are happening at a time

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Speaker 1: when space seems to become the number one issue that

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Speaker 1: and building a colony, going to Mars and building a colony.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and so I think it's one of these

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Speaker 1: periods of time where I think it's just grabbing the

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Speaker 1: stuff that our government is actually doing a genie. We've

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Speaker 1: tried to make this point before. They may not have

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Speaker 1: a lot of money and you know, funding for this

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Speaker 1: particular program, but it's actually happening. It's it's the government

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Speaker 1: working for the people, and these scientists are some of

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Speaker 1: the smartest people in the world. They've actually figured out

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Speaker 1: a way that might be able to save us from devastation,

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Speaker 1: like from you know, being the dinosaurs. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is like every kid's dream job. You create a

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Speaker 1: an astraight off course. Yeah, it's amazing. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I know this only because I have a friend deeply

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Speaker 1: involved in this. This is a real threat a popist

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Speaker 1: seven years from April of this year, and it's the

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Speaker 1: State Building in Manhattan, and it's gonna come within about

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Speaker 1: they may have to send these spaceships up for real

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Speaker 1: to move these asteroids off course pretty soon. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing I'm getting emotional already just thinking about it. Turned

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Speaker 1: that thing up justin with our signature panel, I dare

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Speaker 1: you to not shut it to here Rick Davis and

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Speaker 1: Jeanie Chantay No, I thank you both as we green

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Speaker 1: into the weekend together on the fastest hour in politics.

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Speaker 1: Nice job, Bob Bragg, who put who full of that?

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Speaker 1: I need to find that out later. I'll see you

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Speaker 1: back here on Monday. I'd make it in. I'm Joe Matthew.

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