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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. I am your host with Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: really come on y'all and start writing your own, do

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Speaker 1: your own work. Stop over there wishing and praying and

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Speaker 1: hoping that you be you are that person, because you're

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Speaker 1: not that person lived their life and the accomplish that

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Speaker 1: goes through their journey. And I always tell you to

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Speaker 1: leave with your gifts, your gifts, your passions, and don't

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Speaker 1: let your age, friends, family, or coworkers stop you from

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Speaker 1: planning or living your dreams. The interviews I do on

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations are really geared towards you. I called

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Speaker 1: some of my friends to a celebrit these CEOs, entrepreneurs

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Speaker 1: on the show and just show you the way you

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Speaker 1: always tell people this. Successful people can tell you how

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Speaker 1: to be successful because they are successful. My next gust

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Speaker 1: is very successful. She's back and she's healthy. She's Sean Robinson.

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Speaker 1: She's a crowd graduate of HBCU. We always talk about

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Speaker 1: this every time. Spellman in Atlanta University in Atlanta, Georgia. Spellman.

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Speaker 1: She's an Emmy winning and journalist, TV host, producer, and philanthropist.

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Speaker 1: She's an executive producer on the new Lifetime Originals movies

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Speaker 1: Lust A Seven Deadly Sin Story and Envy that's back

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Speaker 1: to back April tenth and April seventeen, Envy a seven

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Speaker 1: Deadly Sin Story. And we also be discussing a little

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Speaker 1: bit hosting Dudes of n any Day for Yance franchise.

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Speaker 1: Tell All in her Foundation, which I always have to

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Speaker 1: talk about, a Sean Foundation for Girls with Nurtures and

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Speaker 1: supports underserved and underrepresented girls and young women in the

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Speaker 1: areas of stem health, ottunity neighborhoods. Please welcome back to

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Speaker 1: my show. I've been a long time Ms. Sean Robinson Illo,

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Speaker 1: my friend. How are you? It's so great to be

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Speaker 1: back here. Let me put the word executive producer Sean Robinson,

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Speaker 1: because you know, Sean, we've known each other a long time.

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Speaker 1: Originally of course, you know we use hosting the entertainment

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Speaker 1: magazine show that journey to this journey. We don't see it,

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Speaker 1: but it is happening now. And you and you're so

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Speaker 1: popular on your LinkedIn. You know, people really resonate with

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Speaker 1: your motivational quote and your your lifestyle. You really are

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Speaker 1: starting to find your voice and maybe you've always had

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Speaker 1: Tell us about that. Well, thank you so much for John.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciated and uh, you know, just being here

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Speaker 1: I'm all about, uh, you know, helping to motivate people

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Speaker 1: that's you know, That's what I'm about. So you know, um,

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Speaker 1: very very tough place for you know, people of color,

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Speaker 1: and to be able to help them along in their

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Speaker 1: journey is so satisfying for me. You know, I've been there,

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Speaker 1: I've been on a side of casting people. When I

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Speaker 1: look in my career, I look at the Gabriel Unions,

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Speaker 1: the Kim Witling's cannons. You know, so many actors I

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Speaker 1: see there acting the day when they were care Robinson,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. You know, you're in the

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Speaker 1: room and you are in a position to That's what

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Speaker 1: I love. What will Packers doing? You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: he's a game changer and Sean you you're becoming a

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Speaker 1: game changer. And you know the power really is behind

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Speaker 1: that camera, you know, in the writer's room and then

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Speaker 1: the directors, you know, talking to the executives who come

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Speaker 1: down and really only speak to you unless the actor

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Speaker 1: or actress is powerful they want to speak to them.

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Speaker 1: They only speak to the executive producers, the showrunners. They

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Speaker 1: may talk to the writers if it's in the writer

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Speaker 1: room format. But you get the primary notes, Bishop tv J.

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Speaker 1: Get the primary notes and hearing they come from me.

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Speaker 1: What did you realize about taking on the project like this?

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Speaker 1: And I know it put a smile on your face

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Speaker 1: when it when it, when it, you know you have

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Speaker 1: two stages of the smile. First of all, she said

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Speaker 1: yes to your option. In then Bishop TJ. Called you

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Speaker 1: said you want to be in the project. Then you

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Speaker 1: finally casting it and now it's about the air and

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Speaker 1: you're being interviewed national. I'm just one of many platforms

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Speaker 1: and an interviewing you to promote this. Where are you

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Speaker 1: ready emotionally with this project? Well, you know, here's the thing, Um,

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Speaker 1: when when TV Jake's when when you know TV Jake's

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Speaker 1: and and Derrick Williams called me and said, hey, do

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Speaker 1: you have this project? Um? You know that was definitely

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Speaker 1: a you know, a game changer for me because I

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Speaker 1: had this project that was that I had shopped around

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Speaker 1: town and that I owned, and then I was shopping

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Speaker 1: around town and I had, UM, you know, it could

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Speaker 1: have been a different partner that I went with, but

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Speaker 1: I felt that, you know, partnering with with with you know,

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Speaker 1: Bishop Jake's what an extraordinary producer he is. And not

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Speaker 1: only that, um, but his brand is this right in

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Speaker 1: line with this this project. And so you know, for me,

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Speaker 1: one of the lessons was, you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: sometimes you just want to rush things and you want

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Speaker 1: to just go with, you know, whatever offer is presented

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Speaker 1: to you at first, but you really have to think

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Speaker 1: about who you're going to be in business with and

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Speaker 1: how you guys are gonna gel and does this partnership

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Speaker 1: work for the good of the project. And I felt

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Speaker 1: that this partnership definitely was perfect for this project. So um,

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Speaker 1: that was you know when you talk about putting a

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Speaker 1: smile on my face. You know, having this partnership with

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Speaker 1: him is extraordinary for me. And as I look at

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Speaker 1: other projects that I'm doing and being careful about who

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Speaker 1: I choose as a partner, it's it's a I think

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Speaker 1: it's a lesson for for all of us. Don't rush it.

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Speaker 1: Be more intentional with your decisions. Well you know, Um,

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Speaker 1: you've always been intentional. I know when we this project.

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Speaker 1: The reason I just really enjoyed talking about it because

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Speaker 1: I know there's always a journey and just to see

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Speaker 1: the transformation in you, you know when I said this

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Speaker 1: is a good thing. You know. You know Lincoln, I

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Speaker 1: just see, uh follow your motivation and follow your stories.

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Speaker 1: I follow you because you really personalize your life. You

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Speaker 1: put your life out there and to see this is

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Speaker 1: being a part of that story that you're now ready

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Speaker 1: to tell. I think it's amazing and I want to

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Speaker 1: just say congratulations to you. Two projects. You know I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of I'll bring you back.

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Speaker 1: On the show. We talk about naty day fiance and

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Speaker 1: like Jugger not but that you know it's uh, do

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Speaker 1: you know ninety day fiance is seen in a hundred

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Speaker 1: and sixty eight countries and territories. That's I love you

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Speaker 1: for a minute. I I just said, do you know

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Speaker 1: that fiance is seen in a hundred and sixty eight

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Speaker 1: countries and territories? Well, you know that it was big

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Speaker 1: in my house, and big my house, big in my office,

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Speaker 1: is big everywhere. Because I can't understand how people do it.

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Speaker 1: And you sit up there interviewing these people like the

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Speaker 1: normal people though that would beginning me. You mean, like

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Speaker 1: you at these people like you're talking to Tom Hanks

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Speaker 1: or somebody normal or something celebrity, and they'd be sitting

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Speaker 1: up there like they got it going on. How do

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Speaker 1: you sustain such credibility interviewing these people because you're wonderful,

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Speaker 1: you got your right makeup right? These people crazy, they're crazy. Listen,

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Speaker 1: here's here's the flip side of that. The show tells you.

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Speaker 1: How about the when we talk about universal things, the

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Speaker 1: universal theme of wanting to be loved everyone can identify

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Speaker 1: with that, and that is why the show is so

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Speaker 1: popular because everybody can identify with how far do I

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Speaker 1: go to find love? So yes, so I as the

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Speaker 1: host of the show, I have that empathy for everybody

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Speaker 1: that I talked to. Well, you know, first of all,

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Speaker 1: it's first of all, you're fantastic and it was just

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Speaker 1: just what I love about your life. Right now, you

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Speaker 1: still with that allows you to stay in front of

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Speaker 1: the camera, and then you have these upcoming projects on

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Speaker 1: Lifetime and it's gonna be more. I'm just gonna let

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Speaker 1: you know, Uh, Lifetime has found something with this series

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Speaker 1: is right in line. Is uh female centric. The storylines

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Speaker 1: were fantastic. The more breakout stars are being developed under

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Speaker 1: your umbrella, you know, I see you. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: throw this little title on ya. I see you about

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Speaker 1: to do what Will Packer did several years ago. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna start doing it as well. That's what

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Speaker 1: eiver Don is doing, that's so many other people Shonda

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Speaker 1: Rhimes is doing right now, You're going to put that

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Speaker 1: hand on and run with it. Because what I saw

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Speaker 1: and watching these two series was quality work. Stories. I

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Speaker 1: want to share stories. I want to tell family stories,

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Speaker 1: stories that can change people's lives. That's key, right there,

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Speaker 1: change people's lives and make their lives better. Fan congratulations

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Speaker 1: Sean Robinson, thank you, thank you so much. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. And uh, you know, from from your mouth

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Speaker 1: to God's ears, Um, I hope that. Uh it's wonder

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Speaker 1: New chapters are scary, Rashaan, as you know, but they

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Speaker 1: can be so fulfilling. Um when you really like sit down,

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Speaker 1: think about what it is you have to offer. A

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Speaker 1: lot of times we get pigeonholed. We think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time. I can't

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Speaker 1: do anything else. But then when you start to like

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Speaker 1: look at you know, you know, step out on faith,

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Speaker 1: but also be prepared, educate yourself, gain more knowledge about

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Speaker 1: a particular area, talk to people who are in those fields.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are so many more opportunities that you

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Speaker 1: can take advantage of. Well. I know that for a

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Speaker 1: fact that when I stepped away from manager Steve Harvey,

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Speaker 1: it was it was a lot uncertainty. And you know,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of people only know you from what

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Speaker 1: you did previously, A lot of people don't know you

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Speaker 1: from what you did on access Hollywood, and so that

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Speaker 1: compete and hold you and the relationships you have really

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Speaker 1: don't allow you to move forward. But you're not only

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Speaker 1: moving forward, you're running. You're running. In fact, you're driving

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Speaker 1: forward in a very fancy car. It's called like you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you for coming on and like I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see he's post out there. Of course I'm

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Speaker 1: putting my news letter, putting on social media. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell everybody to watch it. More importantly, everybody's gonna watch

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Speaker 1: my podcast as was here my podcast, And thank you

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Speaker 1: for coming on the show again. Okay, can I ask

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Speaker 1: you one favor? Um? Can you make me a sweeper

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Speaker 1: tato pie? Yes? I can. In fact, you know some

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna text your picture and I'm gonna make you one.

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Speaker 1: And in fact, I'm gonna be ou in l A

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Speaker 1: in like three weeks and we're gonna connect. Okay seriously,

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Speaker 1: and I got an office down here in Atlanta. You

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Speaker 1: just open up a cannon worms. I am going to

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Speaker 1: make you a sweeper tat. In fact, when I make it, Sean,

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Speaker 1: you'll be standing right next to me. Okay, perfect deal,

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Speaker 1: deal a certain and I gotta have one of those.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you some stuff because because you

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Speaker 1: them in the Okay, when you come back down here

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Speaker 1: for the next series and you're coming back down here,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let you know you the movies are

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Speaker 1: come back down there, we will connect. I gonna bring

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Speaker 1: you by the office. We're gonna eat, talk and do

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Speaker 1: doing stuff because I'm launching on my old TV show

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Speaker 1: So this is a perfect time. It's perfect. Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. If your Money Making Conversation interviews, please

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