1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't f I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week, this back 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: and forth with this individual, Kilmar Abrego Garcia continues. They 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: say he was deported to El Salvador in violation of 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 3: a judge's order, then brought back to the United States 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 3: back in June at the Supreme Court order the Trump 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: administration to facilitate the return. He was detained on human 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: smuggling charges, which he denies. Now this goes back to 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: a stop in Tennessee in twenty twenty two, which is 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: on film, this video of it. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Uh, and he's in there. 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 3: He got eight other guys in the vehicle, nobody speaks English, 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: everyone's got cash, nobody knows what's going on. Clearly human smuggling. 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: I mean, what else do you think it was a 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: slumber party? And they're saying, no, he's got a he's 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: denying that. And so he's now in custody and apparently 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: on his way to Uganda at the detention facility there. 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Art Arthur is the Resident Fellow in Law and Policy 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: at the Center for Immigration Studies. 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for coming on with us. I feel like. 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: Every single minute there's a change, some judges trying to 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: stop this and judges trying to stop that. 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: Where are we give us an update where we're at 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: with this fellow. 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: So just a real quick recap. Lou A Breako Garcia 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 4: came in around twenty and twelve. He was picked up 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: in a parking lot in Maryland in twenty and nineteen. 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: I took him into custody because he was with a 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 4: bunch of MS thirteen members of verified source said he 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: was a member of MS thirteen two. One immigration judge 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: denied him bond. Another immigration judge found that because of 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 4: threats against his mother's Papoosa business back home at El Salvador, 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: he'd be persecuted. Fast forward, so he granted him withholding 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: of removal. He ordered him removed, but the government couldn't 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: remove him to El Salvador. Fast forward to twenty twenty five. 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: He gets taken into custody. In March, he gets sent 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: to El Salvador. El Salvador places him in a sea 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: coot terrorist prison. His family goes to court in Maryland. 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: Judge Paula's Innis asks for him to be returned she 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 4: issues in order that requires the federal government to effectuate 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: and facilitate his return to the United States. Supreme Court says, no, 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: you can't force the US government to engage in diplomacy, 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: but you know you can tell him to facilitate his return. Finally, 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: he's returned. In June. He sent to Tennessee to face 46 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: the charges that you mentioned. Under federal bond law, the 47 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: presumption is that criminal detainees won't be detained pending trial. 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: So that judge released and be held on to him 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: for a while because he didn't want to get released 50 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: because he was afraid Iceer was going to take him 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: into custody. So Judge Inn, it's back to her in Maryland. 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: She says, you can't take him right into custody. If 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: he does get released, you gotta let him come back 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: to Maryland. Apparently he traveled with security paid for by 55 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: his lawyers to bring him back to Maryland. That's quite 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: a trip, let me tell you. And so this morning 57 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: he was taken into custody when he showed up for 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 4: an appointment in Maryland. Ice in Maryland said that they 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: were going to send him to Uganda. Apparently, and the 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: judge his attorneys ran to Judge Zennis again in Maryland 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: and said, you got to stop this, and so she 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: has put a hold on the removal of him to 63 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: you Ganda until she has an opportunity to hear arguments 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: from the parties. 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Man, when I think about, all I can think about 66 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: during that update was the amount of legal time, the 67 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: amount of legal work, the amount of like court clerks 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: and sonographers and police departments and judges and judges time 69 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: to sort this guy out, who is certainly bad news. 70 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Is unbelievable. Why again, can't he just go home? What's 71 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: the argument? What's the thing with his mother? She that 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: what they're not? Their sideways with the with the black 73 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: hand there in El Salvador. What's the problem. 74 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: Well, you know, that's funny thing, Lou is that his 75 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: claim is based upon an assertion that he would be 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: harmed by a gang called Barrio eighteen in El Salvador. Now, 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: of course, the government's argument is that he's an MS 78 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: thirteen member, And if you know anything at all about 79 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 4: gang violence in El Salvador, Barrio eighteen and MS thirteen 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: didn't get along for years. They fought with one another. 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: But he didn't say that Barrio eighteen won them because 82 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 4: he was an MS thirteen member, and remember MS thirteen 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: starts you off pretty young. In El Salvador. What he 84 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: said was that his mother ran a papoosa business. They're 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: a pastry, quite tasty if you ever have one. And 86 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: it was so successful that Barrio eighteen came by looking 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: for extortion. Basically, they wanted protection money so that they didn't, 88 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: you know, either kidnapped him or raped his sisters. And 89 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 4: so for some reason, the second immigration judge that I 90 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: talked about found that this constituted an asylum claim. I 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: was an immigration judge for eight years. This is simple extortion. 92 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: If this guy has a persecution claim, then Charles Lindbergh 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 4: had a persecution claim when his kid was kidnapped by 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: Bruno Hofftman. But you know, it's everything about this case 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: has been sideways from Jump Street. You know, the second 96 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 4: immigration judges order the deportation of this guy Del Salvador. 97 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 4: The you know, Judge zenn is getting very involved in 98 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: this thing. Since there's such a degree that the Streme 99 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: Court had to step in. I mean, there's just so 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: much wrong with this case that you know, if we 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 4: could have stepped it at any point in this we 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: could have undone it. But here's really the question loud 103 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: that nobody's asking. When he got sent to L. Salvador 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: in error. The salvador and government didn't do what it 105 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: does with every other person. We deport El Salvador, stamp 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: your passport, welcome you back into the country. Tell you 107 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: of the nice day they put him into Seacott. 108 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: Right, everybody o country was afraid of him. 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: They didn't want him walking around out there. 110 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one thing. You know, I've talked about 111 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: Bragio Garcia one hundred times to various media outlets, but 112 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 4: that is the one thing that no media outlet really 113 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 4: touches on. There's no reason, I mean that the Trump 114 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: administration wouldn't say, hey, here's one of your nationals back 115 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: put him in jail, any more than Britain would say, 116 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: you know, hey, here's Leu and Art. We're gonna send 117 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: them back to you when we want you to put 118 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: them in jail. We're never going to do that. So 119 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: it appears that L. Salvador wanted this guy in jail, 120 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: not the Trump administration. But that's the one point of 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: the story that nobody really seems to be hammering down 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: on So. 123 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: What what do we do? 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 3: Like, what is our obligation as a state department, as 125 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: a justice department, as a homeland security agency, like, what 126 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 3: is our obligation to this foreign national? 127 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Where do we where do. 128 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: We leave him? Well, because of the protection that he got, 129 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: which is called statutory withholding, it's not asylum and he 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: has been ordered removed, we can send him to any 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: country on the face of the earth other than El Salvador. 132 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 4: But because he got deported to El Salvador and then 133 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: brought back, I don't want to get into how complicated 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: it is, but we basically need to reinstate that original 135 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: removal order, which means that he can ask to talk 136 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: to an asylum office, or the asylum officer is going 137 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: to say, we're going to send you to Uganda. He's 138 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: going to claim that he fears persecution in Uganda. By 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 4: the way, part of his claim is he doesn't speak 140 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: the language. Well, he doesn't speak English either, and he's 141 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: been living here in the national language of Uganda is English. 142 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: But so yeah, I mean it'll probably be a pretty 143 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: quick turnaround. In less of course, the asylum officer believes 144 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: that he really does have a claim, then an immigration 145 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: judge is going to hear his case again. But that 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: should all happen pretty quickly. Now keep in mind also 147 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 4: that Costa Rica has apparently said they'll take this guy, 148 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: and he wants to go to Costa Rica. So one 149 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 4: thing that you may see is that, you know, the 150 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: Trump administration simply says, fine, we'll send you to Costa Rica. 151 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: But remember the part that I talked about before you 152 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: and I just mentioned lou that El Salvador put him 153 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: into its prison. Now if he goes to Costa Rica, 154 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: El Salvador may seek to extradite him from Costa Rica. 155 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: Now they are very good relations back to El Salvador. 156 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: So quite frankly, you know this story might play out 157 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: for the next year, year and a half, two years. 158 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 3: Art Arthur with the Center for Immigration Studies, thanks so 159 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: much for bringing us up to speed. 160 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: It's it's one of those stories just doesn't ever seem 161 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: to go away. 162 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: And it's a top story out of DC today and 163 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: the Uganda turn is my favorite one. We'll see if 164 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: he takes the Costa Rica deal or goes to Uganda, 165 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: the pearl of the African continent. 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Louke Penrose on news radio. 167 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: And for John Cobalt today on KFI A six forty 168 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 169 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 170 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: six forty. 171 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week, talking about 172 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: the back and forth and back and forth with Kilmar 173 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: Abrego Garcia. The President wants to send him to Uganda. 174 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: Uganda has a really an agreement with the United States 175 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: to accept third country nationals that are not being granted 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: asylum in the United States. Garcia not eligible for asylum. 177 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: Everybody always knew that, but it is interesting now that 178 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: he is at He claims he's at risk and has 179 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: been able to convince a federal judge that he is 180 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: at risk at home. So the only thing he can 181 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: do is go to Costa Rica, but then may get 182 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: extradited by the El Salvado government. 183 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Look, you know, this is. 184 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: Actually is not all that interesting to me. It's kind 185 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: of an interesting story how we got here. 186 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: It would be. 187 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: Much better if illegals stop lying. But I understand illegals lie. 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: They constantly lie, and that's how we get wrapped up 189 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: in all this. 190 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Because we're a nation of law. 191 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: And order, and law and order requires truth, So we 192 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: apply what is available to a foreign national based on 193 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: what they say, and then when they lie. 194 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: It gets all fouled up. And this is a troublesome fellow. 195 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: He was identified by a valid source that he was 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: a member of MS thirteen. Strike one, he was found 197 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: with rolls of cash and drugs and other MS thirteen 198 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: game members. 199 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: Strike two. 200 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: He was stopped in Tennessee by the highway patrol with 201 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: eight other illegals in the car and the car wasn't 202 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: registered to him. Strike three, he was They caught him solicit. 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: Court filings have him soliciting nude photographs of a mind. 204 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: Strike four. 205 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 3: His wife petitioned for an order of protection, a tr 206 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: temporary strainting order because he punched her and scratched her 207 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: and ripped her shirt and bruised her. 208 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: Strike five. I mean, why do I need these people 209 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: in my country? 210 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: And now because his mother's pastry shop is so good 211 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: and she won't pay protection money to the local gang there, 212 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: he can't go back like this. 213 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: I guess this is a problem for him. It's a 214 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: problem for him, it's a problem for his wife. 215 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what idiot marries in illegal. This is 216 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: on her that his family is got problems. 217 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: That is a shame. 218 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: Like, the only thing stupider than marrying an illegal is 219 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: having a child with an illegal, which apparently she has done. 220 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: And then I'm supposed to feel bad because they're hugging, 221 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: like I was watching TV this morning and the like 222 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: they got camera shots of the family hugging goodbye as 223 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: he is taken away by the ice folks. 224 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, why are you crying? Like where do 225 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: the tears factor in? You married an illegal, a gang member. 226 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: He must have told you the story of his mother's 227 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: pastry shop. 228 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: And as I said, the only thing stupider than marrying 229 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: in illegal is having a child with an illegal. 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: And now you're crying. 231 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: Like these are problems for this weirdo family, but they 232 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: are in fact their problems. 233 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: They're not our problems. 234 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: Stop making your absurd life choices become my country's problems. 235 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: And do not even try and make me feel bad. 236 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: Don't feel bad for these people. Don't let them make 237 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: you feel bad. These are foolish, foolish people, and they're 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: playing internationals and they're paying international prices, and you know, 239 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: we just heard the art Arthur gave us the recap 240 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: of how much my court system has been involved in 241 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: this guy's life, and all I can think about is 242 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: how many clerks, how much overtime, how many judges, how 243 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: many you know, public defenders, how many people? 244 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: How much tax payer dollars have been. 245 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: Spent sorting out this guy's dishonest, stupid life, and it's 246 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: still happening. People like, oh, Loup, but don't you feel 247 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: bad for the children. Yeah, I feel bad for the children. 248 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: They are foreign children, They're not I don't know. I mean, 249 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: I don't know if this with this woman's situation is. 250 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if she's gonna go follow him to Uganda. 251 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: She should probably get a small apartment outside the detention 252 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: facility in Uganda and then she can go visit him 253 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 3: or contact the mother and El Salvador. Maybe she should 254 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: move there. I don't know what she should do. What 255 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 3: idiot marries and illegal So she's got, you know all. 256 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, her passport is. 257 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: Up to date, because I suspect she's gonna be doing 258 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: a lot of traveling. But again, these are their problems. 259 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: There was a story about an uber driver guy lived 260 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: in Paramount and my home radio station is in San Diego, 261 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: and we were doing the story because it involved an 262 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: issue in San Diego. Guy was an Uber driver got 263 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: missed the exit very close to the border in San 264 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: Diego and wound up in Mexico. But the person was 265 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: a DACA person. So he was brought into my country 266 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: illegally by his illegal alien parents from Guatemala at the 267 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: age of ten. He's now thirty one, so he's a 268 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: grown ass man. And again he's married and has children. 269 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: So another idiot marries an illegal, and another idiot has 270 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: children with illegal and now he is in fact illegal 271 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: and a grown ass man driving from Uber. But as 272 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: a result of President Obama is under the Deferred Action 273 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: for Childhood Arrivals program. 274 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I get it. That's fair, right. Shouldn't be mad 275 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: at the child. They had nothing to do with the 276 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: fact that their. 277 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: Illegal alien parents dragged them into the country illegally when 278 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: he was ten years old. 279 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: What's he gonna do? But but you know, TikTok, TikTok. 280 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: Day has become weeks, weeks become months, and now he's 281 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: a grown man. Still at illegal. DACA doesn't absolve you 282 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: from being an illegal. You're still illegally in the country. 283 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: You were just a childhood arrival. So we defer action. 284 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: That's what DACA stands for. So the federal government defers action, 285 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: any action against you, until we can figure out what 286 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: to do, because there's no real good answer what to 287 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: do with a child who is now thirty one, just 288 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: as illegal as they were when they were ten. 289 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: But now are grown up. 290 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 3: Well, among the things you can't do as a a 291 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: DACA person is leave. You know why, because once you 292 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: cross the border into Mexico, how do you get back 293 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: into the United States to drive home to your house 294 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: in Paramount. 295 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: You can't because you're not Mexican, you're not American, you're Guatemalan. 296 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: And it's a long drive. 297 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: And so there he is in Mexico, stuck, and everybody 298 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: was crying about it, and they were on TV and 299 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: the parents are crying, and the wife is crying, and 300 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: the children are crying, and he's stuck in Mexico because 301 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: he can't come back into the United States. He's being 302 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: detained in Mexico because he's not Mexican, he's not American, 303 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: didn't have his Guatemalan passport on him. 304 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: Shocker. 305 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: And you know the story is narrated in such a 306 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: way that I'm supposed to feel bad, and I won't 307 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: feel bad. That is that's a real problem. I have 308 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: to admit. That's a good one. That's complicated and complex. 309 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: You got he's he's the breadwinner. I mean, he was 310 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: a he was able to knock up a local here 311 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and have four children. 312 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: So she's a real butte when it comes to picking soulmates. 313 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, they those four children are certainly American and 314 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: ultimately will become our responsibility to raise because they're young. Well, 315 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: actually the three children, and she's, you know, in a 316 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: family way. With the fourth, she's American. He's an uber driver, 317 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: he's in Mexico, and it's and and the parents. Over 318 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: the years, their parents, his parents somehow were able to 319 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 3: go back to Guatemala a number of times and get 320 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: their their legal residents now. So he's the only one. 321 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: And I thought, that's a that's a decent story. I 322 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: gotta I gotta be honest, I don't know how to 323 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: solve that one. 324 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: But I remain. 325 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: Still in my resolve that this is in fact their problem, 326 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: their family. 327 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: Problem, not my problem, not my country's problem. And I suspect. 328 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: If you're a DOCA person and you drive Ruber, don't 329 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: take any fares that take you near the border. That's 330 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 3: the only lesson that I learned out of this one. 331 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, we got another one. Uh, 332 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: let's see here, Oh, the Sherman Oaks folks. We got 333 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: to talk about the Sherman Oaks folks. There was a 334 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: raid at the home depot in Sherman Oaks and a 335 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: bunch of Americans got involved and got in the way 336 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: and one got detained. 337 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: And that's always fun. So we'll do that next. 338 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty. 339 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 340 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 5: six forty. 341 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose in for John coblt this week. 342 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: Good to have you along with US President Trump today 343 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: making some news with respect to his executive order over 344 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: the flag. Now, flag burning is protected speech, but the 345 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: executive order brings into it brings in an element of 346 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: whether or not you burn the flag with the intent 347 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: to inside a riot. It's an interesting question. We'll see 348 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: if it pass constitutional muster. Here's President Trump. When you 349 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 3: burn the American flag, it incites riots at levels that we've. 350 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: Never seen before. People go crazy in a way both ways. 351 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: There's some that are going crazy for doing it. 352 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: There are others that are angry angry about them doing it. Yeah, 353 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 3: So the president's point of view is he is protecting 354 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: life by stopping you from burning the flag because people 355 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: will get so upset that they'll start rioting. It's an 356 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: interesting angle. I can't support it. You have a right 357 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 3: to do it if you want to do it. That 358 00:19:53,200 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: really isn't the question. The question is why are you 359 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: burning the flag? Like what is your beef and how 360 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: is burning I get it, you were trying to bring 361 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: attention to yourself, but you have to appreciate how offensive 362 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: that is to so many of us. But I work 363 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: in San Diego where we have military and retired military 364 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 3: that swore to defend that flag and what it represents. 365 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: So it reminded me of that moment right here in 366 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: Los Angeles in nineteen seventy six. So there were flag burners. 367 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: Then they were flag burners in nineteen seventy six. Who 368 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: knows what they were upset about, but they were at 369 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: Dodger Stadium and they were dousing the American flag with 370 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: gasoline right in centerfield, and nobody was sure what was 371 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: going on. In the seventies, you had all kinds of 372 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: things going on during baseball games. 373 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: You had streakers, You had women coming out there to 374 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: stealing a kiss. 375 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 3: That was the kiss a bandit, So all kinds of 376 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: use of the baseball diamond as a way to make. 377 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: Some kind of a statement. 378 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: Remember the streakers, So nobody knew what they were doing, 379 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: like are they taking off their clothes? 380 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: What are they about to do? 381 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 3: And when it became clear right around the time, they 382 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: flicked the lighter and they were going. 383 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: To burn the American flag. 384 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: Who remembers Chicago Cubs outfielder Rick Monday. 385 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 6: That's right, Curtesive, Major League Baseball. 386 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: So listen to the reaction. So everybody at Dodger Stadium 387 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 3: was mad. They booed that he was that these two 388 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: kids from Missouri. As it turns out, we're going to 389 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: burn the American flag. And everybody on Monday was playing 390 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: for the Cubs. He wasn't a Dodger, but all the 391 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: Dodger fans got out of their chairs and started cheer. 392 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 3: Rick Monday runs by them and snatches the flag right 393 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: from them, right as they're about to burn the flag, 394 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: and and the reaction from Sculley, you hear him they 395 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: were gonna burn the flag. Can you imagine that? So 396 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: in a world of flag burners, be Rick Monday. 397 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: They can do it. 398 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: They probably can't do it in the outfield at Dodger Stadium, 399 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: but they probably could do it, you know, in front 400 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: of a courthouse or in front of the capitol or 401 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: something like that. But you know, but yes, of course, yeah, 402 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: if you want to burn, if you must burn the flag, 403 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: I suppose you have a right to go ahead and 404 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: burn the flag. 405 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: But recognize the rest of us. I mean, if you're 406 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: not gonna be Rick Monday, at. 407 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: Least even Scully and be like, there, we're gonna burn 408 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: the flag. 409 00:22:52,400 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that. 410 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: From it? 411 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: I love it. That was Los Angeles nineteen seventy six. Today, 412 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: I suspect there would be more people rooting for the 413 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: people that want to burn the flag. 414 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: It would be interesting to see what would have happened today, 415 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: Like would Rick Monday today, would Rick Monday be canceled 416 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 3: because he stopped the flag burning or would he be 417 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: celebrated by the way Monday a Marine reservist. 418 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: So those two kids got off easy. Seems to me 419 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: I would not have read. 420 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good thing that he wasn't in 421 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: the on deck circle with the bat in's hand. But 422 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 3: that's the way people feel about the flag, So please 423 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: reserve your political speech to proportionality. Like that's the biggest 424 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 3: beef I have with the people that refuse to stand 425 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: for the national anthem. If you believe that there is 426 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: injustice in this country, and there are certainly evidence there's 427 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 3: certainly evidence of injustice in various categories, particularly when it 428 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 3: comes to policing and sentencing, and they're legitimate discussions that 429 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 3: ought to be had, were not perfect, and there is 430 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: room for improvement. 431 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: There always will be. 432 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: But if you believe that there is just injustice in 433 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: a specific area, whether it's policing. 434 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: Or sentencing or. 435 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: Whatever, then use your celebrity, use your status, use your 436 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: voice to go affect. 437 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: Change where change can be made. 438 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: Right, instead of refusing to stand for the national anthem 439 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: in the National Football League on your day off, go 440 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: down to city hall or go to the capital of 441 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: the whatever state you're in and co sponsor legislation or 442 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: be president at a press conference. In the game, man 443 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: like affect change, champion the cause off the field, because 444 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: the remedy for whatever it is that's bothering you. Whether 445 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: it is the concern that African Americans are disproportionately sentenced 446 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: for crimes, if that, if that, if you believe that 447 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: to be tewing, there are a lot of learned people 448 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: and thoughtful. 449 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Discussions about that. 450 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 3: If you believe that, then that flag represents the pathway 451 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: to resolution. So don't get mad at the American flag, 452 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: don't get mad at the pledge of allegiance, don't get 453 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: mad at the national anthem. Embrace that, which is the 454 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: way you can affect change to better your community or 455 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: better the society. 456 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: Burn the flag, go to. 457 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: The building that the flag is flown over, and petition 458 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 3: lawmakers for change. 459 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: That's the right way. So in a world of flag burners. 460 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: B Rick Monday, Lou Penrose and for John Coblt on 461 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: KFI AM six forty. 462 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM six. 463 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Coblt this week. Good to 464 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: have you along with us. 465 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: Coming up. 466 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: Following the news at three, so Lyle Menendez was denied 467 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: parole just like his brother. Both Menendez brothers remain in prison, 468 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: and there's no sign though they're getting out anytime soon. 469 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Late Friday night, at Parole Board. 470 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: Issued the ruling that Lyle, like his brother Eric, will 471 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 3: not get parole, despite the next the Netflix documentary. They 472 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: can try again in three years, the board finding that 473 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: the Menendez brothers remained too great a risk to the 474 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: public if they're. 475 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Released, which proves my point. 476 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: Nobody gets rehabilitated in prison, Like, why do we even 477 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: call it the Department of Rehabilitation. Nobody is better off 478 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: having been in prison. At the very best, they will 479 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 3: be wiser for the wear and maybe not want to 480 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: go back to prison. But I think we need to 481 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: put to rest this idea that we're doing anybody any 482 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: favors by sending them to prison. We're just keeping them 483 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: away from us, and that's the best we can do. 484 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 3: There will always be liars, there will always be cheats, 485 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: There will always be thieves. They will always be crooks, 486 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: and really age is what breaks the crook. 487 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: But then they become consultants to other crooks. 488 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: But like, there's nothing that goes on at the correctional 489 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: facilities that stop thieves from being thieves. Other than they're 490 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: afraid of coming back. Nobody wants to get sent back 491 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: to jail, like that's the only thing we have going 492 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: for us. So if we make prison a bad place 493 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: to be, then that will act as its own determent. 494 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: But I don't know that we're able to process people 495 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 3: into law abouding citizens in there. I am Catholic, and 496 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: I am reminded by my faith that Jesus was crucified 497 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: between two thieves crucify. The punishment for stealing was crucifixion, 498 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: and people still stole. So I don't think, you know, 499 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: looking at a ninety day stretch, you know a county, 500 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: is is any. 501 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: Discern at all? 502 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: All Right, So we will talk with who we got here, 503 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: Alex Stone for ABC News. 504 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: He'll give us the latest on the lelman Endez. 505 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: Decision and what that means and what will happen over 506 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: the next three years and if they're going to continue 507 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: on this route following that, there is an assembly member 508 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: out of the San Fernando Valley that's working on legislation 509 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: that I actually think is a good idea. It's a Democrat, 510 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: but what he wants to do is begin the process 511 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: of getting ultra processed foods out of your kid's lunch. 512 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Now, I'm not a big fan of government. 513 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: I am a small government kind of guy, and I 514 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: don't want government in our lives. But we're here, and 515 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 3: the food that's being served and that's being administered really 516 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: to your children in school is really really processed and 517 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 3: really really bad for them. As somebody remember, Jesse Gabriel 518 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: is trying to change that. He's trying to phase out 519 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: ultra process school, ultra processed foods. 520 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: From the school. My two littles started today. 521 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: I have three sons and their cousin is staying with 522 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: us for a while, so I got four in the house. 523 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: And my two oldest ones started his his junior year 524 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: and one started freshmen, so they're both in high school now, 525 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 3: and the littles are starting what sixth grade in fifth grade, 526 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: and today was their first day. So when I go home, 527 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: it'll be like a normal house for the first time 528 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: since June. Why everybody goes to school so early is 529 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 3: beyond me, but for whatever reason, at least this year, 530 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: high school started like in early August, and lower school 531 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: just started today at least for my district, And so 532 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: now everybody is in school and so we'll start the 533 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 3: routines of homework and laundry will be normal for my 534 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: wife and I and I'm very excited to return to 535 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: normalcy and return to what I call regular order in life. 536 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: But the food thing is becoming a thing because I 537 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: really think that this administration. I think Robert F. Kennedy 538 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Junior is onto something. I think he's raising awareness. I 539 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: think that a lot of people are getting very health 540 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: conscious with respect to carbohydrates when they start, and as 541 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: much inasmuch as some of these keto diets are fat ish, right, 542 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 3: I mean, eating nothing but steak and fruit or steak 543 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: and honey can't go on forever. 544 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: But that's the current fad. And I think as. 545 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: People literally eliminate every form of refined white flour from 546 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 3: their diet, even for like week or ten days, they 547 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: immediately begin to feel the effects. I limit it very much, 548 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: and I've seen the change in my own life and 549 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: my own health in just my own brain fog. There's 550 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: something going on in that white flower that Robert F. 551 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior is talking about, and it's for real. I 552 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: was cleaning out we had some friends over over the weekend, 553 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: and I was just kind of cleaning out. 554 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: The bread drawer. 555 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: We have a bread drawer in our house because everybody 556 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: likes different things to make sandwiches. And we were getting 557 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: ready for back to school, so I had to get 558 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: lunch meat and get everything all together and make sure 559 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: everyone has the kind of. 560 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: Role that they like to make their sandwich. 561 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: And I found I think it must have been from 562 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: the fourth of July. I found hamburger buns, like from 563 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: the life time we bought hamburger buns, which certainly would 564 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: have been the fourth of July, and they look perfect. 565 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: And I thought, there's something wrong with this. I mean, 566 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: there's no way this could be healthy for you if 567 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: this stuff hasn't gone bad. Now it's dated and it 568 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: should not be consumed. I threw it away, but it 569 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: didn't look moldy, like nothing molds anymore. And I thought, 570 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: this is the kind of stuff that they're serving these 571 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: kids in school, so this assembly might be onto something. 572 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Now, how you replace that, I don't know. 573 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I certainly think they could figure out they 574 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: serve children real food in other countries. I have family 575 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: in Switzerland, and I remember having this conversation when I 576 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 3: was there visiting them with my family. The food that 577 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: they served in some of these European like preliminary schools 578 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: what they call them, like. 579 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 1: Lower schools, is like real food. It really is healthy, 580 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: good food. 581 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: And the food that's served in public school now is 582 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: just horrible. And it's not just in public school schools. 583 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 3: The lunches are just terrible for kids. And everybody talks 584 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: about how after lunch the kids are racy and then 585 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: they crash and then they get tired, and I'm thinking, well, 586 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: of course, look at the junk that they're being served. 587 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: And since COVID now everybody's allowed to have lunch, they 588 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: change the rules so that lunch is quote free, which 589 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: is always rich to me. In the building where somebody 590 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: in the economics department is supposed to teach my children 591 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: the phrase, there's no such thing as a free lunch. 592 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 3: The governor is out there touting the fact that no 593 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: one has to pay for lunch in public schools any longer. 594 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 3: And I've seen these lunches and they're horrible, Like the 595 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: only thing that's healthy is the apple or the orange 596 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: or the banana, and no kid eats an apple or 597 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: an orange or a banana. 598 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: So it's just the process stuff and it's terrible. 599 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: So I do the best I can to send them 600 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: to school with, like, at least something that's reasonably good 601 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: for them, And I'm in control of breakfast. 602 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: But this is somemply. 603 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 3: Member wants to get the government involved and phase out 604 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 3: ultra processed food from all public schools. They want to 605 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 3: do it by twenty twenty eight, so it's a quick turnaround. 606 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that all coming up next on KFI 607 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 3: AM Sex six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 608 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 609 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 610 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 611 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.