1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: the truth lives here a twelve Apostles Apostles. Do we 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: have a jam Pack show for you? Not only did 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Week two happen in the PAC twelve, Not only are 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: we gonna give you week three predictions, We have a 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: great interview from Mario Chris, the ball head coach of 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks. Ryan Abraham from USC football dot Com. 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Why do you think we're interviewing him because the biggest 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: story is that Clay Hilton got fired at USC. I'm 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: George Rice Stir, He's Ralph Amston and this is the 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: PAC twelve Apostles. The Pack twelve Apostles podcast is the 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: podcast Bipack twelve fans, four Pack twelve fans who love 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: college a ball. 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So, uh, Ralph, I guess we'll start with 22 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to give people an update who listened to 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: the show a couple of weeks ago, who got a 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: chance to experience the Nirvana discussion, and they may not 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: listen to the rights to a wrong podcast. Want to 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: let them know that I surprised Ralph one day on 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: the show with my own Nirvana T shirt. So now 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm officially in. It has all the tour dates on 29 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: the back which I have attended. And now I'm officially 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: a you know, a near Nirvana Kurt Cobaine person. I guess, right, 31 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: I guess. Can you name three of their songs right 32 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: now without looking them up? Yeah? Teenage dream sweet teenage 33 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: dream thingy, sweet teenage dream thinging of that. Yeah, that's 34 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: a big hit of theirs and um dream thing Ralph, Ralph, 35 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm not good with names, Okay, Okay, yeah I'm not 36 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm not good with names. But the crazy part is 37 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: all right. So we have a big deal going on. 38 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: USC just fired Clay Hilton yesterday, Bro, they fired him. 39 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: I was digging around. I just so happened to be 40 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: on USC's seven message board as soon as I click 41 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: on a post that was from z you were all 42 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: minutes ago, like, so I must have gotten on as 43 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: soon as he posted it. It said that Clay Helton 44 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: got fired. So I immediately and but it had a 45 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: link to a tweet went straight to Mike Bones Twitter. 46 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: It was the Mike Bones Twitter. I read it. I 47 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, they really fired him. And 48 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: this was kind of ironic because he got fired after 49 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: a crushing defeat to Stanford, but also after he got 50 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: the full time job. He had a crushing defeat by Stanford, 51 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: so David Sharlle brought him in and sent him out. 52 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I this was expected probably years ago, right. 53 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: We we talked about all the time on this show, 54 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: and everybody always talks about what a nice guy Clay 55 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Helton is. I've had some one on one exchanges with 56 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: him in which it was striking how kind of a 57 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: person he was. I remember I brought up Austin Jackson 58 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: donating it was a bone marrow to his sister, and 59 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: his face just lit up, and he talked about Austin 60 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Jackson's character as a young man for probably fifteen minutes. 61 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: He was beaming like he was a dad. UM. I 62 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: can see why people like playing with him, working with him, 63 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's almost like have you 64 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: seen the movie Um Nobody No No, Alright, So nobody 65 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: is UH is A is kind of like a Taken movie, 66 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: whereas you know Liam Neeson Uh was not shy about 67 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he had a UM specific set of 68 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: skills to hunt his own daughter down. Nobody is about 69 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: Bob Odenkirk who actually keeps it covered up. He plays 70 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: a character named hutch Mansell who keeps it completely covered 71 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: up that he is this like suburban boring um dad 72 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: who has lost the respect of his wife, he's lost 73 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: the respect of his son. They get robbed and he 74 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: doesn't even do anything to like stop it from happening. Um, 75 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: and then he ends up having to like wake up 76 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: that other side of him. And it's almost like USC 77 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: because of everything that they went through in the sanctions 78 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: and everything like that, they needed somebody to come in 79 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: and clean up the program. And it didn't work with 80 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin because he was too young and brash, and 81 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: it didn't work with Stark because of his personal demons, 82 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: And so you bring in Clay Helton and he's a 83 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: nice guy, and you spend seven years being the nice 84 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: guy and trying hard and saying all the right things, 85 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: but it's not enough. It's not enough to be USC. 86 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: So you have to come back out of your shell 87 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: the way that Bob Odenkirk does and nobody and just 88 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: to get what does that bugs Bunny mean? Time to 89 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: get back to the old me. That's where USC's at 90 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: right now. Like they need to live up to their 91 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: reputation of of being like so cows Miami right, they 92 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: got to have that attitude and that swagger um. And 93 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: so in doing so, they elevate Dante Williams, which is 94 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: a fascinating decision. Yep, yeah that now, now that one 95 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: is interesting. So USC gets their first black head coach, 96 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: even though it's in an interim position and people are 97 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: wondering can he keep the job right? So I think 98 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: that he was elevated as head coach for a couple 99 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: of reasons. First thing is, Graham Harrold was not an 100 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: option because he's got problems with his offense already. You 101 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: had Todd Orlando, who's you know, gotta get defensive stuff 102 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: figured out as well as a coordinator and and uh, 103 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: Dante Williams was already associate head coach, like that was 104 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: part of, you know, his package for leaving Oregon to 105 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: come down to USC. He's a amazing recruiter, not necessarily 106 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: so much on field coaching xs and ohs and you know, 107 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: and coaching guys up with techniques and getting them to 108 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the NFL all of all of that. But he's a 109 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: fantastic recruiter. And they're trying to keep their hands on 110 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: their five star prospects that they have right now. So 111 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: and you know, and he's a guy that if you 112 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: keep him in that job, then you know, kids like 113 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: Demanti Jackson they may stay committed. But it depending on 114 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: who they hire. Because he's a kid who's from modern day. 115 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: He wants to stay home. But now it's opened up 116 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: the idea for Alabama as well. And then you got yep, 117 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and you you have Michael Williams and Demonti Jackson actually 118 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: said it in an interview yesterday. He was like, yo, well, 119 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm committed to USC, but the only schools 120 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking to are Michigan in Alabama and 121 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: Michail Williams, the kid from Georgia, five star kid who's 122 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: obviously getting a lot of pressure from the team's down south, 123 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: and with Clay gone, that could go to hell in 124 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: a hay basket real fast as well. So like, what, 125 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: I guess, are you surprised that they fired Clay at 126 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: this point in time because part of me says yes, 127 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: but part of me also says no, because he's obviously 128 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: like that Stanford defeat was really really bad. But if 129 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: you remember last podcast, Ralph, how adamant was I that 130 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: Stanford plus seventeen or seventeen and a half was like 131 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: the easiest thing ever. Oh yeah, it's it's just logic 132 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: that that's a rivalry game anyway, it was gonna be 133 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: played close to no matter what. And then you have 134 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: to factor in the type of offense that that Stanford 135 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, the or the USC rather is running. Uh, 136 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: which you and I both made the point a million 137 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: different times. The type of offense that USC is running 138 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: is for lesser players to gain an edge against better talent, 139 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: So they're they're sort of doing things backwards. Yes, yes, 140 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: and so um, especially when you get in the red 141 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: zone and that was just brutal to watch. Um. Keithan 142 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: Slovis try to thread the needle in the red zone, 143 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: when the offensive line talent isn't up to par um, 144 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: when you got some injuries that receiver, and when Keaton 145 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: slovis to be Frank was not as accurate as he 146 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: he needs to be for the team to have success, 147 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: and when, when and if they choose to run the ball, 148 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily effective. And then you have the fact 149 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: that this some walk on from Stanford cleaned up on 150 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: them on offense and on special teams, and he was 151 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: going against five star defensive backs. And so I think 152 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: that you know, the massive failure in this game isn't 153 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: just that they that they didn't come over against Stanford, 154 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: that they were down forty one to thirteen with six 155 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: minutes left. It's that offensively they looked bad, and defensively 156 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: they looked bad, and on special teams they not only 157 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: did they look bad, they had a kick or get 158 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: ejected five seconds into the game. So they look bad 159 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: in all three facets. And then right after the game 160 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: you have Bill Plashkey write a column saying that it's 161 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: time to fire Clay Helton, which is that that's nothing new. 162 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: But then you also had alumni like Keishawn Johnson come 163 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: out and say I can't fight on with him anymore, 164 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: And so it just seemed like the entire like you say, 165 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: last straw, there was just no one left to defend him. 166 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: He was already in a precarious situation. They already had 167 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: to make it. So the replies were shut off on 168 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: a happy Birthday post to him just a couple of 169 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: months ago. Do you realize how insane that is that 170 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: people won't even wish the man happy birthday? And by 171 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: all accounts, I've had a chance to interview him as well. 172 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: He's a nice guy, dude like And that's the thing 173 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: that makes it so hard, is that it's like telling 174 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: your brother who you love so much and who you've 175 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: hired at your company, like bro, like this, this ain't 176 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: the job for you. But but he's really trying. It's 177 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: not for lack of effort, it's not for lack of 178 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: wanting to do the right thing. But they're just like, Bro, 179 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: this is this isn't the right job for you. Which 180 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: has to be hard. And if you remember, do you 181 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: remember when Clay Hilton was announced as the permanent head coach? 182 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember how his players reacted? They were excited. 183 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that they were elated, like that was 184 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: all of the news stories and they're still sad he 185 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: got fired, Like that's the crazy part about it. But 186 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: but there was rumors about stuff going on in the 187 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: locker room. There is like the worst contract decision Impact twelve, 188 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: like recent Pack twelve history, maybe of all time, was 189 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: to give Clay Helton essentially a fully guaranteed contract after 190 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: like nobody was going to take him. Like that's the 191 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: thing about it is like when teams extend the coaches 192 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: and like nobody is after them, like your USC, he 193 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna leave and go to you know, Alabama wasn't open, 194 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: like there was Like he's not gonna leave USC to 195 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: go to Iowa State or to Iowa or to you know, 196 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: like somewhere else. So why are you giving him an 197 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: extension and in a full and guaranteed extension when nobody 198 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: is going to steal him? Like that's the thing that 199 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. So they ended up having 200 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: to keep him for longer. He still they still owe 201 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: him ten million dollars on the way out the door, 202 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: and now they're in a position to where like one 203 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: of the unintended consequences of this whole of the early 204 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: signing period is the fact that now you have you know, 205 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: it makes it weird the timing when you fire a 206 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: coach because you all but cannot if your USC there's 207 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: no way that you can hire an NFL coach to 208 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: be your head coach. Now, No, no way, because otherwise 209 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: you gotta wait till January at least. And then and 210 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: then that means that your recruiting class is done, because 211 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: the majority of the class is signed in December, anyway, 212 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: I think is December. What do you think? So you 213 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: bring up the NFL thing, and I'm gonna throw a 214 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: name out, and I mean we're gonna get to names, 215 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: of course, but you bring up the NFL thing. The 216 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys almost tired of coach two years ago. They 217 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: decided to go in a different direction. Do you know 218 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at here? Oh, Marvin Lewis right, Marvin 219 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Lewis has been around the college game now for the 220 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: last three years. I've seen a lot of college names. 221 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I just want to go get out in front of 222 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: the idea that people keep bringing up guys who left 223 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: football altogether, like Bob Stoops and Chris Peterson. Maybe there's 224 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: an amount of money that makes them go back. You can't. 225 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: There's no amount of money like Chris Peterson. Like Chris Peterson, 226 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: mind you, he was our wide receiver coach in Oregan, 227 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: so I know him very well and have had conversations 228 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: with him since he's been at or at Washington all 229 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: of that there. And when I saw the reason why 230 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: he retired, which was, you know, he was like, I 231 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: want to be able to live live my life. Like 232 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: there is not an amount of money that could make 233 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson come out of retirement. There is a like 234 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: he would have to want to do this, you know 235 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, you can't tell Chris Peterson, I'll 236 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: pay you ten million dollars if you come that that's 237 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: not gonna motivate him. He's gonna have to want to come, 238 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, and want to grind, want to 239 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: compete recruiting against Chris the ball with the hours that 240 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: he puts in. He's got to want to do that. 241 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if he wants to do that. Yeah, yeah, 242 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: I just I think that it's silly that anybody that's 243 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: floating Chris Peterson's name, and I think that it's silly. 244 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: That's anybody's floating Bob Stup's name, people who had really 245 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: good jobs that walked away from it. Not everybody's urban Meyer. 246 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: Not everybody is it is unable to stay away. And 247 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: I believe to a certain extent that Urban Meyer does 248 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: have health issues, Like I'm not questioning that at all. 249 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: Is it enough to keep him out of football? Absolutely not. 250 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: We've seen that multiple times. But as far as Chris 251 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Peterson and Bob Stoops, they were in a really good 252 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: position to be really successful for a really long time 253 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and they walked away for their own personal well being. 254 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a different situation. And I look at 255 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson the same way that I look at Bill Cower. Yeah, 256 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: every single year, no matter what, somebody's gonna bring up 257 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Bill Cower's name to come back and be a coach. 258 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: But the truth is he got all football out of 259 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: his system and he's in a comfortable place where he 260 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: gets to talk about football and he gets to be 261 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: around his family. That's a really good gig. So I 262 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: don't I don't see those two as being And then 263 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna have your head coaches that that are 264 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the it guy right now. You know, whether that's Luke 265 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Fickle or or who are Obviously you've seen Mario crystal 266 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: Bal's name floated a bunch. Um. I don't think that's 267 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: going to happen. I think it would be silly for 268 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Mario Crystabal not to use it to his advantage. Um, 269 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: Like most coaches use things like this to their advantage. 270 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: We saw Antonio Pierce Um get a raise off of 271 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: the idea that you have a could hire him to 272 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: be their head coach. You know, I think that that 273 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: that you won't see that. I I don't see that 274 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: happening at all. But but but you are right that 275 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: most coaches do do that. But christ the ball, he 276 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: just got a new contract in between last season in 277 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: this season. And I just think that it's interesting that 278 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: it had only been seven hours since USC and I 279 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: fired off a tweet since USC fired Clay Helton, and 280 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: on their message boards, fans had already reached Texas level 281 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: delusions about who that they should hire. Like the names 282 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: that I saw that were mentioned most the number one 283 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: name on the list Urban Meyer. I'm like, Urban Meyer, dude, 284 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: the dude just got a job. I I do not 285 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: first see him going back to college, like and because 286 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: he's not gonna pull a Nick Saban, because Nick Saban 287 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: was still, you know, kind of early in his coaching 288 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: career at that point in time in terms of what 289 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: once you see what he's done since, so he was 290 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: early in his coaching career and well earlier and urban 291 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: Meyer has been through allegedly a lot health wise. You 292 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: think he's gonna leave Jacksonville to come back to come 293 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: to l A and sorry, like in the middle of 294 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: the season, to get out of here, no way, no how, 295 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: and then the next name, Mario Christo Ball. It's not 296 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: it's not happening, Bro, it's not happening. Because USC can 297 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: throw a mental money at at him if they wanted to. 298 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: But if you consider this, he's already out recruiting them 299 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: at Oregon. Can you possibly recruit better at USC? Is 300 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: it maybe a little bit easier? Possibly? Right? But then 301 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: you have an administration who's in your in your ass, 302 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: bothering you all the time, you uh, you have to 303 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: answer to people. He could not be more beloved at Oregon. 304 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: And I think that that his failure, well not not 305 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: not not even failure, but because because he had some 306 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: success at f I U two um leading him to 307 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: the only Bowl game, starting up a program, all of 308 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: all of those things. I think that his kind of 309 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: the fact that it took him so long to get 310 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: another head coaching job. Coaches are starting to realize that 311 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: just bouncing around taking jobs for money and all that 312 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: stuff is not the best situation as opposed to when 313 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: you have the stability. So USC's roster is not as 314 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: good as Oregon's roster. You their offensive line, which he is, 315 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's his baby, is nowhere near Oregons. They've 316 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: recruited better all of this. It's a rebuild job. So 317 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna leave Oregon for a rebuild when you have 318 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: them in position to be a national championship can can contender? 319 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: That makes that would make zero sense to me. Yeah, 320 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: And the two two names that I keep hearing more 321 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: than anything else are Luke Fickle and James Franklin. I 322 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: think Luke Fickle is a possibility. I think that that 323 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Cincinnati joining the Big twelve isn't happening soon enough, uh 324 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: to eliminate that possibility, I don't think. I I'm gonna 325 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: go ahead and say will are James Franklin is not 326 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: happening at all? And the reason why is because well, 327 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: his buyout. But let's also look at this. The two 328 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen recruiting class number five in the country, and 329 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: this year right now number one and on number two 330 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: un rivals. So two thousand eighteen was number five, two 331 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen was number eleven, was number fifteen, one was 332 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: number twenty six, and they're currently competing to have the 333 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: top recruiting class in the country. He is more set 334 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: up for success where he is at right now, and 335 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: he's in a really good position where he seems to 336 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: be well liked. They got off to a good start 337 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: this season. I mean they actually could compete to be 338 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff this year. I think that 339 00:20:52,840 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: Penn State is closer than then USC. Well and and 340 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: on top of that, so, uh, James Franklin's contract is 341 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: he's making five and a half million dollars this year. 342 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: It runs through so it's five and a half five, seven, six, 343 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: six to and six five. So how much more can 344 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: USC pay pay him? I mean, really think how much 345 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: more can they pay him? Are you are you gonna 346 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: say we'll give you instead of you making five point 347 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: five this year, We'll we'll give you six. You're like 348 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: and then so I got to travel across the country. 349 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: Mind you, he's a Pennsylvania guy. So I'm gonna leave 350 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: across the country away from my family for extra half 351 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: a million dollars and that that I'm gonna pay back 352 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: in taxas too. Would it be a good higher Yes? Yes? 353 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it realistic? I don't. I don't think 354 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: so at all. To me, it comes down there are 355 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: three names that makes sense to me. Number one is 356 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: and I know USC does not want to fall on 357 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: this trap again, but it could absolutely happen. Number one 358 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: is Dante Williams finds a way and and there's no 359 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: room for error here. They have to win out for 360 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: this to even be a possibility. But for like the 361 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: fourth time in a row, USC might get stuck retaining 362 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: their interim coach. I know they didn't do it with 363 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: coach Oh right, yeah, but but but he didn't look 364 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: the part right right, Dante Williams. Dante Williams is an 365 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: interesting guy because he was a great recruiter for St. 366 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: Jose State, which is what put him on the radar 367 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: for you, of A. He helped pull a bunch of 368 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: really good athletes toward you, of A. But didn't even 369 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: get to the point where they could sign with You 370 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: of A. Greg Johnson I think even ended up at 371 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: USC the um their starting safety. Uh. He was supposed 372 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: to go to You of A, but before they could 373 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: even sign, he jumped to Nebraska. He ended up pulling 374 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of California kids to Nebraska before bouncing to Oregon. 375 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: He coached a pretty good defensive backs group. But everybody 376 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: knew why he was at Oregon. It was to get 377 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: some of those California Everywhere he's gone, it's to be 378 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: to get a stranglehold on California recruiting. And then, um, 379 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, they cite family issues as to why he 380 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: takes an assistant head coach slash you know, recruiting roles 381 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 1: slash defensive back coach role with USC before the season, 382 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's the interim head 383 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: coach because they want to hang on to all of 384 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: the games they've made in recruiting that they got from 385 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: bringing him on in the first place. Um uh. He 386 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: Dante Williams is an interesting coach in the A. He's 387 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: the only coach in the world who has me blocked 388 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: on on Twitter because I I um have constantly used 389 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: him as a reference point for why there shouldn't be 390 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: transfer penalties amongst players, because you have these really good 391 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: recruiters who go from school to school who tell you 392 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: come be at this place, this place is for you, 393 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: and then when they get an opportunity, they move on. 394 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: If they can move on, I'm not saying there's anything 395 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: wrong with what Dante Williams did. If they can move on, 396 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: the kids should be able to do so without penalty 397 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: as well. I've always had that attitude and so um 398 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't think he liked me constantly referencing that, 399 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: but it was nothing bad about Dante Williams. But at 400 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: the same time, like he he is gonna be the 401 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Mario Cristo Baul model of where you would have to 402 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: have an O O C in a d C who 403 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: are pretty much responsible for the offense and the defense, 404 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: while he goes all in on the recruiting end. And 405 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: that could make for a really good situation. But in 406 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: order to even retain him, to even entertain the idea 407 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: of retaining him as head coach, they are going to 408 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: need to finish the season eleven or one. They're gonna 409 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: need to rattle off chance straight wins. So that's person 410 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: number one. Person number two for me is Luke Fickle. 411 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: I think that that's just that's the hot name, that's 412 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: the one that everybody's gonna want. And it's not Urban Meyer, 413 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: it's not Chris Peterson, it's not one of these unrealistic guys, 414 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: and it's not James Franklin. And then part of me is, 415 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: if they do want somebody who has NFL experience, if 416 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: they do want to maybe demote Dante Williams down to 417 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: d C or something like that and bring in someone 418 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: who has NFL experience but not have to wait on 419 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: the NFL season to end, then I say, I think 420 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: a super dark horse candidate, which I think the alumni 421 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: would be piste off about, but I don't care. I 422 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: think if you give Marvin Lewis a bunch of resources, 423 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 1: he could be good. I think a guy like her 424 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: Edwards would be good at USC. It's just never gonna happen. Well, 425 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: HERM Edwards is gonna have a show cause penalty after 426 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: this seasons. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, um, but yeah, 427 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: and the other names that they threw out there, Dan mullen, No, 428 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what Dan Mullin, Cliff Kingsbury. That's 429 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: never in a million years gonna happen. I was like, 430 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: what you think he's gonna leave his job right now? Meg, 431 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: get out of here. And the guy does not like 432 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: the media, and he does not like recruiting, Like he's 433 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: not tell recruiting, but it doesn't he doesn't. The NFL 434 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: is a much better situation. Yeah, and do you know 435 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: who else? Who else? The the guy that you mentioned 436 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: who obviously Cincinnati has had their head coaches leave and 437 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: come to Well their basketball coach and leaving come in 438 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: l a Um. You have had their uh their athletic 439 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: director leave Cincinnati and come to l a. Luke Fickle 440 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: is an Ohio guy. He's built this program around Ohio. 441 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: At Cincinnati, they're going to the Big twelve. I think 442 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: that getting him is a possibility, but it's gonna be 443 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot harder than people think it is. I mean, 444 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: but it's the arrogance of USC fans and Texas fans 445 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: at times. And I get it because you have great, 446 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: great history, Texas has the is the most lucrative athletic 447 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: department in the world, well in college sports. I gotta 448 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: get it. I get why you would feel like that. 449 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the landscape has changed. It's 450 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: like basketball where all the top free agents don't want 451 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: to come to the Lakers all the time. Sometimes they 452 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: want to go to the Clippers. Sometimes they want to 453 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: go to Miami with with Lebron. They'll go to Cleveland 454 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: with Lebron, there co to Brooklyn with New York, to 455 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: Brooklyn with k k D. And you know, so it's like, uh, 456 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: people have signed up to go play with Janis and Milwaukee. 457 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Times have changed because of the Internet and all of this. 458 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: And just because you were good historically, that doesn't mean 459 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: that you can just take everything that everybody has. It 460 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: doesn't work like that anymore. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna 461 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: give you an outside name. Somebody who was a grad 462 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: assistant in the Big Ten, somebody who has spent four 463 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: years and there is in their fourth year in the NFL, 464 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: and whose only year as a major factor in college 465 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: football resulted in one of the greatest teams of all time. 466 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: And that is a thirty two year old Carolina Panthers 467 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Joe Brady. M m m. Hey see, they 468 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: want somebody who's had a ton of success already in. 469 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: But I don't think that that's the answer necessarily, right 470 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: that because Pete Carroll hadn't had a ton of success 471 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: prior to getting to USC as a as a head coach. 472 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: So the idea like, they want a big name, a 473 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: splashy higher but you just need somebody good and Joe 474 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Brady he might be a guy like that's somebody that 475 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: I would consider because you you know what type of 476 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: offense that he's gonna bring, a power spread, the same 477 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: thing they ran at l s U. If you got 478 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback and you can get the offensive lineman you 479 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: can recruit that will work at USC. Well, give me 480 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: three or four more weeks of him making Sam Donald 481 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: look like Sam Donald again and maybe USC fans will 482 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: be a lot more open to it. That's a fair point. 483 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: As a fair point. But what I'll just want one 484 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: one more, one more? What about? And this is CONSI 485 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: conspiracy brain on overdrive because I think that there's gonna 486 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: be some coaches from the Pack twelve that maybe maybe 487 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to move on or or are are 488 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: involuntarily moved on by their schools. Uh. Obviously there's a 489 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of respect for two pack twelve North coaches m 490 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: perhaps three whom, if this season continues to go the 491 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: way that it's going, might not necessarily be in position 492 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: to be the coaches anymore. Could you see a world 493 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: in which and I know that this is I mean, 494 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: this is really slim margins, but could you see a 495 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: world which USC is able to put together a respectable 496 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: enough season to say, Dante Williams is our guy, but 497 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna need to surround him with massive amounts of 498 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: experience on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball 499 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: so that he can focus on making sure that we 500 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: have the most talent in the entire league. And that 501 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: would be something like having Jonathan Smith run the offense 502 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: and Justin Wilcox and Orgie you're not that I know 503 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: you didn't just come up with that, dude. They're not 504 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: going to go work for Dante Williams. They're not. They 505 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: have too much experience and he's gonna be trying to 506 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: figure it out as a as a as a head coach. 507 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Are we gonna end up in a Jimmy Lake situation then, 508 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: where you have a position coach who wasn't necessarily responsible 509 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: for calling anything put in over his head can Dante 510 00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: Williams staff up? That that's that's I think the the 511 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: magic question is can he staff up? Or has he 512 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: burned some bridges with moving around so so much? And 513 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: do people like if he got the head job. I 514 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: think that that would be a big question that would 515 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: have to be answered, is who can you hire? Because 516 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: because he's been around a lot of places, but there's 517 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 1: a difference in being around a lot of places and 518 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: having people willing to come work for you. Yes, so, um, 519 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: what if on what if on November Old Miss is 520 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: like eleven and one, dude, I would dude, I would 521 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: beg Lane Kiffen to come back. Do you realize how 522 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: amazing that would be if Lane Kiffin was like, yo, 523 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: I want to go back to USC if they go 524 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: hire him on the tarmac at after Old Miss game. 525 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know, dude. I think that Lane has 526 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: jumped around enough to realize this ain't worth it. Like 527 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I think he was happy when he was at f 528 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 1: a U, but he understood that it was and they 529 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: understood it was a temporary job for him, a rehab job. 530 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: And now he's in a put position where he's gotten 531 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Old Miss rolling a little bit and I don't. I mean, 532 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to come back to that. 533 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: So we'll see though. But let's talk about the game 534 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: that got Clay Hilton fired, which was in our Week 535 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: to review, which was them playing against Stanford and losing 536 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: forty two to eight. And that score was a lot 537 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: closer than the game was, because I think at one 538 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: point in time it was forty two to thirteen, right yeah, 539 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: with like six minutes left. Yeah yeah, and then you 540 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: see came back with these quick touch touchdowns and if 541 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: they had gotten the onside kicking scored. I was waiting 542 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: to see what Clay Hilton's response was gonna be after 543 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: the game, to see if, man, we we only lost 544 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: by one touchdown. It was close, but in reality, dude, 545 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: that game was so far apart, and the fact that 546 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Stanford got creamed by Kansas State the week prior was 547 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: just and they only scored seven points against him. They 548 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: looked like, I was like, intellectual, brute brutality is clearly broken. 549 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: And then you had Kansas State who came back the 550 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: next week and barely beat who did they beat Southern 551 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: Illinois thirty one twenty three, So it was it just 552 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: didn't make sense. It was a really bad look for them. 553 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: They couldn't score, like they were shut down in every 554 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: single way possible. Um, yeah, they let they let Stanford 555 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: run for a hundred and forty one yards, they threw 556 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: for another two thirty four. Yeah, and Keaton Slovis was 557 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: was off the and then USC even though the stats 558 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: say that they ran the ball well at thirty three 559 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: carries a hundred and eighty five yards and with a 560 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: five point six average, those were, like I explained, they're 561 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: they're like third and long plays where then you run 562 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: the run the ball in like long yardage, Like they 563 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: can't line up and run the football. Yeah. I was 564 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: more um floored by the fact that Bryson Tremaine, a 565 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Stanford wide receiver, walk on. He walked on a few 566 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: years ago out of Los Angeles, so even worse abused 567 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: five star warnerback Chris Steele and five star cornerback Isaac 568 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: Taylor Stewart Andy blocked a punt. They had no answer 569 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: for a walk on from l A. USC full of 570 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: stars had no answer for a walk on from l A. 571 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: He was embarrassing the five star players in the USC secondary. 572 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: I think he caught a ball on Chris Steele that 573 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: got them inside the five. He caught a touchdown on 574 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: Isaac Taylor Stewart, he got a pass interference called on 575 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: Chris Steele, Andy blocked a punt. I don't know how 576 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: you have a better day than that. And it would 577 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: be one thing if it was one of these super 578 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: genius four stars that only Stanford can pole because they 579 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: wanted to go to Stanford their entire life. But no, no, 580 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: it was a guy from Venice High School who had 581 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: to walk on at Stanford and looked like made your 582 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: defense look like they couldn't hang with him. That what 583 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: are you supposed to you about that? You have to 584 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: make a move, you have to make a change, but 585 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: it looks like the offense and defense had quit. Yes, 586 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: and that's where you know the big problem came in. 587 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: And here was the issue with retaining him, right, is 588 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: that you lose the Stanford and then they go to 589 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: Washington State. Washington State hasn't looked that great. Then they 590 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: play Oregon State at Colorado. So those are three games 591 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: that they could realistically rattle off and win. And then 592 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: versus Utah you can win that game too, so so 593 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: then you could win four straight games and then play 594 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and and Notre Dame hasn't looked particularly great, 595 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: so that's a winnable game this year too. So if so, 596 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: if he rattled off you know, like seven of the 597 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: next eight games, which is entirely possible before they got 598 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: to u c l A, you put yourself in a 599 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: position where you couldn't fire him. Yeah, and I think 600 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any room for error. I think 601 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: if you beat u c l A and Arizona State 602 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: en route to rattling off ten straight, then the jobs 603 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: probably his um and and who knows. Keith Slovis has 604 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: not looked good this season, but one thing he likes 605 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: to do is take his anger out on a s 606 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: u UM and that that U c l A game 607 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: matters a whole bunch more. But it's not like USC's 608 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: schedules all that easy the rest of the way either, 609 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: especially they're not going to switch up the style that 610 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: they play. I saw someone with the absolute worst take 611 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: um earlier today, which was that if Cliff Kingsbury had 612 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: held on, he'd be the head coach at USC right now. 613 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: And that's not true. The head coach of the Arizona 614 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: it's not It's definitely not true that they would because, 615 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: first of all, if USC's offense looked functional, Clay Helton 616 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: would probably still have the job. And second of all, 617 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: the recruiting class matters to them more than anything else 618 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: at this point in time, especially if they're gonna make 619 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: wholesale changes at the end of the year. So Dante 620 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: Williams would have skiped clicks Cliff Kingsbury, you because if 621 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: they were down with Cliff Kingsbury's o C, why would 622 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: you make him head coach? So that is one of 623 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: the and I think that was your boy, Alex Clancy 624 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: that had that take. You gotta talk to him about that. Yeah, yeah, 625 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: that was an outrageous take. So to talk about everything 626 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: that happened at usc M, why Clay Helton got fired 627 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: and all that, we actually have Ryan Abraham. I was 628 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: able to interview him, and he's the publisher over at 629 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: USC football dot com, the seven Sight and who's very 630 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: very close to the program and does a podcast. He 631 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: does another Pack twelve podcast which is a podcast of 632 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: champions as well. And uh here's Ryan Abraham. You can 633 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: find him on Twitter at Inside Troy, owner and publisher 634 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 1: of USC Football dot Com and host of the podcast 635 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: of Champions, which is the second greatest Pack twelve podcast, 636 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: because Packed Oval Apostles would would be the best. Ryan, 637 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show, No problem, George. Yeah, 638 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: it's good stuff. And uh, there's always interesting, interesting days 639 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: covering USC football. We have to like drop everything. There's 640 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: been so many days like that, and this was definitely 641 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: one of them. Why, I mean, what what? What possibly 642 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: caused you guys too? Because the funny part about it 643 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: is is that Clayhalton was was fired today. But I 644 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: laughed because I record podcasts my myself, and I saw 645 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: that you had stayed up late doing an emergency podcast 646 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: about the team and the lackluster performance against Stanford. And 647 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: then just as you get to promoting that that out, 648 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: you gotta go line up again and do it again. 649 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, I mean that Stanford team. You cover 650 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and we didn't think Stanford was gonna 651 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: be very good, and you know, they just got blown 652 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: out by Kansas State, who beat Southern Illinois the next 653 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: week by eight. You know, it was it was not 654 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a good Stanford team. And 655 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: USC looked absolutely terrible and we were just hearing so 656 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: many rumblings of bad things going on in the locker room. 657 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: It just didn't seem like this team was on the 658 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: same page, and I thought that might, you know, you 659 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 1: might see that pop up against some of the better 660 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: teams on the schedule, maybe the Utahs or the Notre Dames. 661 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: But I don't think Stanford's that good. And they looked terrible, 662 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: so you just knew that was pretty much the end 663 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: of it at that point. I didn't think it would 664 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: happen that quickly. I thought it would be something that, 665 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe in the middle of the season or 666 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: even at the end of the season. But Mike phone 667 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: end up, I guess he saw enough and he pulled 668 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: the trigger after two games. So always always interesting at USC. 669 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: George right, and and to in all of honesty, when 670 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: I saw Stanford plus seventeen, I said it on this 671 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: show and I was like, this is a layup, and 672 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: it's not because USC is not more talented than than Stanford. 673 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: It may be the actual thing they got Clay Hilton 674 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: fired is that I was like, David Shaw will come 675 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: up with a game plan to to stop this air 676 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 1: raid attack or slow it down, and then I just 677 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: thought that seventeen just sounded outrageous to me, despite how 678 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: bad that they looked the previous week against Kansas State. 679 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: Were you in that same boat or did you expect 680 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: him to cover? No? I never picked USC to cover, 681 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: especially big spreads, but I picked them in week one. 682 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 1: I just felt like they might get it together and 683 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: end up covering, even though they didn't look that good 684 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: against Santaday State and I was a fourteen point spread. 685 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: I thought they would against Stafford. When you watched that 686 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: Stamford game and they were down early, and they were 687 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: down the entire game, and we're running the clock, the 688 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: play clock all the way down, it was like they 689 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: felt like they had to lead. It was baffling. And 690 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: in this one, deevid Shaw was completely different. He took 691 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: points off the board, they kicked the field goal. USC 692 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: was offsides and it was going to give Stamford a 693 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: fourth out and goal at like the three, not like 694 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: at the one, and he still took the field goal. 695 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: He never does that, never, never, And for him to 696 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: do that, it just seemed like he had USC's number 697 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: that day. And I give I give him a lot 698 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: of crab mean we've known David Child made some bad 699 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: decisions where you like, start the wrong quarterback or whatever, 700 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: But he made all the right decisions against USC. And 701 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 1: it's funny Clayton started his career when he became the 702 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: permanent head coach with a blowout loss in the tactical 703 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: championship game of Stanford that Christian McCaffrey year in and 704 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 1: he ended his career he get blowout lost to Stanford 705 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: and the Coloseum. So it's I guess it was a 706 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,959 Speaker 1: book ended there with the cardinal. Why do you think 707 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: that the move was made now as opposed to later 708 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: in the season. So the administration that came in, I mean, 709 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: USC has had terrible leadership there. They just kept hiring 710 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: former football players. No offense George to a former football player. 711 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: Some a some of us are really good at our 712 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: jobs and some of us shouldn't. You just have to 713 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: hire the right one, right. Patty and LN Swan were 714 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: the worst athletic directors and history that I can tell. 715 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: Um just make horrible decision after horrible decision. And when 716 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: Mike Bone came in and they tried to fix a 717 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: lot of the things around the program, and I give 718 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: them credit, I think they did and they were straddled 719 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: with this contract that was fully guaranteed. I mean, it 720 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: was probably one of the worst sports contracts ever signed, 721 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: and Clay Helton was a beneficiary of that. But I 722 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: felt like they fixed so much around the program. They 723 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: brought in a better staff, they're better recruiters, video team, 724 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: whatever it was. I mean, they had like the regular 725 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: lawn people that do like cut them cut the lawn 726 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: in front of the libraries at USC cutting the football 727 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: field lawn like they didn't have a specialist that was 728 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: running their football field. It's just stuff like that. It 729 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: wasn't a buttoned up organization. I think they fixed a 730 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of it and provided a ton of resources to 731 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: Clay Helton, and it was set up that they should 732 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: have at least started this season five and oh and 733 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 1: then get into the media schedule and take to the 734 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: fact that they lost that badly. I think it really 735 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: upset the administration because they basically just gave Clay Helton 736 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: everything he could possibly need to have a successful team 737 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: and it just fell apart in week two. So I 738 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: guess they've seen enough and decided that they'll put you know, 739 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: Dante Williams as the interim head coach. And do a 740 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 1: national coaching starch. So in this era though, with the 741 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 1: early signing period, George, you're better off making a firing 742 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: earlier than later, so they at least have a long 743 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: time to kind of figure out who the next coach 744 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: is going to be. Yeah, I thought that the promotion, 745 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: even though he was associate head coach of Dante Williams, 746 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: was interesting because they could have chosen Graham Harrow as well. 747 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: Do you think it was just the fact that he 748 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: was associate head coach and he was annointed head coach? 749 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: Where do you think that that was in an effort 750 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: to keep the recruiting class even though it's only ten 751 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: commits right right now, there are a couple of five 752 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: stars of two together. Yeah. I think he's a great 753 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: recruiter and he probably is the best relationship with everyone 754 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: on the team, all the players. We've heard him today 755 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: just a little earlier on USC's radio show, and he 756 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: talked about he's recruited most of these guys, or when 757 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: he was in Oregon, he recruited a lot of these 758 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: guys that ended up at USC, So he's got good 759 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: relationships with those guys and Graham Harold just if the 760 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: offense was like scoring fifty points a game. Maybe make 761 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: him the interim, but the offense is really struggling right now. 762 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: I think he's got to focus on that. I think 763 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: that could have done Todd Orlando the defensive coordinator, or 764 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: even like a Mike Jenks who was a former head coach. 765 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: He was a head coach at Bullen Green before. But 766 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: I like the choice of Dante Williams. It's actually USC's 767 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: first African American head coach. Even though it's an interval 768 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: and he's going to be running the program for at 769 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: least ten games, it looks like, so um yeah, I 770 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: think it's an interesting one. But I think by the 771 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: recruiting angle and just his relationship with the players, I 772 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: think that's helped to make that decision. So when it 773 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: comes time to hire a head coach, being that he 774 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: does have a lot of relationships with the with the players, 775 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: do you think he will get consideration to be head 776 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: coach because that's kind of the way Mario Cristo Ball 777 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: got to be head coaches. When Willie Taggart left for 778 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 1: Florida State that the that the players went to bat 779 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: for Mario Crystal Ball. Is that possible at USC, I mean, 780 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: I think anything at USC, and that's what happened with 781 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: Clay Helton too. You know, we've seen that workout in 782 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: places like Clemson and Davo Sweeney right like he was 783 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: an interim head coach. I didn't work out so well 784 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: with with Clay Helton, and you just sort of kept 785 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: surviving time after time after time when you just didn't 786 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: seem So I think in this situation, because USC's made 787 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: some really poor decisions, they probably have to go with 788 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: an experienced head coach. But for Dante Williams, I think 789 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: it's a I mean, but Mike Bone earlier today on 790 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: the radio show, he's talked about, you know, the next 791 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: head coach, if it's someone here now or someone out 792 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: in the nation, So he mentioned the possibility that it 793 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: could be someone on staff, and obviously would be likely 794 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: be Dante Williams of anybody, since he's going to be 795 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: the interim head coach. But he mentioned that possibility. But 796 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, George, it's 797 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: going to be someone from the outside, just because they've 798 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: had so any you know, bad hires to the past 799 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: that you kind of have to go with a proven 800 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: commodity if you can. Yeah. And one of the things 801 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: that has one of the unintended consequences of early National 802 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: Signing Day is that when you do have to fire 803 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: a coach, it makes it, you know, hiring an NFL 804 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: guy impossible because you would have to wait all the 805 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: way until January. And then if you do want to 806 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: coach from another school and who's doing well, like who's 807 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna go to a bowl game? How do you possibly 808 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, hire one of one of those coaches and 809 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: keep a recruiting class intact? So like so is you 810 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: know Mike Stoops or you know Chris Peterson. They have 811 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: to be at the top of the list, right, Yeah, 812 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: So like you have options, you know, two guys that 813 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: work in l A media, like you know former you know, 814 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: great head coaches in college, you know, like you mentioned 815 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: Bob Stoops and uh uh and Chris Peterson. But you know, 816 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna go and try to get a current 817 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: college coach, it is it's someone that you could potentially 818 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: um announce and say, hey, they're going to finish out 819 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: their season and that would help the with the recruiting class, 820 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: or you know, if their staff is if they're going 821 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: to keep some guys on staff like a Dante Williams, 822 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: and he can help with the recruiting class. I mean 823 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: we've we've seen that order on when he became the 824 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: interim head coach. It really kind of helped put pull 825 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: the recruiting class together before they announced. You know, Sarkisian 826 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: is a higher But you're right, the early signing period 827 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: makes everything accelerated and before like if you're waiting until 828 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: January to get an NFL guy, you at least had 829 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: a month left until signing day. Now you can't do 830 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: that because you know your class has already signed, you know, 831 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: right around Christmas time. So it it definitely messes with 832 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: the timeline. But at least, you know, doing a mid 833 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: season firing, which is this is the third in a 834 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: row for USC by the way, Um, a mid season 835 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 1: firing does give you some more time to find out 836 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 1: who it is to try to keep a recruiting class 837 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: together or put you put it one together. You guys 838 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: were on with Ryan Abraham, owner and publisher of You 839 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: See Football dot Com. I was watching the Parasile earlier 840 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: when um, well'm sorry, I was watching tunnel Vision earlier 841 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 1: with your emergency show and some of the names that 842 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: came out aside from you know, uh stoops and UM 843 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: and Chris Peterson was you know Matt Campbell who's over 844 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Luke Fickle from Cincinnati, who is a 845 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: who has a relationship with Mike Bone because that's his 846 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: former Uh he was the former a d there before 847 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: he came to USC. You mentioned Mario Christo Ball at 848 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: Oregon UM, James Franklin at at Penn Penn State. Do 849 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: you think that those names are realistic names or do 850 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: you think that this is kind of like Texas where 851 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: where where they feel like, you know, we're Texas, We'll 852 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 1: throw a boatload of money and anybody will come, and 853 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: then that turned out not to be true. Yeah, I think. 854 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to look at anyone that's a 855 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,240 Speaker 1: potential candidate. And I think you know, for USC, before 856 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,400 Speaker 1: they kept they had a very limited scope and they 857 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: would only try to hire people that they knew familiar. 858 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: They weren't going to go out there and get the 859 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: big name. And I think now they can at least 860 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: go out there and explore. Do I think like Mario 861 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: christ Ball would come or USC would be probably not, 862 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: you know, but it's like a name he's got that. 863 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: You know, the biggest win probably your regular season win 864 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: and program history over the weekend, Right, you'll beat the 865 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: Ohio State in the Horseshoe, big deal, you know, like 866 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,800 Speaker 1: h James Franklin. There's been talked back and forth. I 867 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: mean they lost with their first five games or whatever 868 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: last year and have turned things around. They got a 869 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: big win earlier in the year. I don't know if 870 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: he would someone that would be interested and go on 871 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: and they're like a Luke Fickle like makes sense. Mike 872 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: Bonore hired him once. Good to hire him again. He's 873 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: a big time Ohio guy though, Like he's got tons 874 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: of connections in Ohio. He's never coached outside of Ohio 875 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: that that I know. And they're just going to the 876 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: Big twelve too. Yeah, well the Big twelve might not 877 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 1: be Power five really anymore after Tech Global. Yeah, there's 878 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: some options, you know, like, uh, I'm Matt Campbell at 879 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: Iowa State where I know they lost over the weekend. 880 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: I think if you look at just you know, you 881 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: look at the names and you've got them, and you 882 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: interview people, you don't just say, well, here's my friend, 883 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire this guy, like I think that's what 884 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: previous administrations would do, and you got to interview people 885 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: and find out if they're interested in you. You might 886 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: interview someone that looks like a great candidate, you're like, 887 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. And you interview someone and you're like, 888 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of questionable resume, and they just really wow you, 889 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, And I just don't think USC's opened up 890 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: any options from before and now, you know, now they 891 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: have a chance to well. One of the things that 892 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: have been struggling wholl with with USC is that there 893 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: have been a power struggle between the administration and you know, 894 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: people who had accumulated power and not wanting a head 895 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: coach who you know, who was gonna Pete Carroll the 896 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: whole thing again. So, you know, are they at a 897 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: point after firing three head coaches that they're like, all right, man, 898 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: look who what whoever we bring in you you get 899 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,399 Speaker 1: will control over everything like a good head coach would want, 900 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,439 Speaker 1: I think. And that's that's a great point because that's 901 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: what the previous administrations were doing. I mean, they were 902 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: bringing in basically figurehead A. D. S and all the 903 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: people that were working under him. Um, you know, they 904 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: just wanted everything to be the norm. And if you 905 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: had a head coach like Pete Carroll that wielded all 906 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: that power, they were the ones everyone looked to. And 907 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: I feel like they weren't dedicated to winning. They were 908 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,919 Speaker 1: dedicated to keep in their little fiefdoms there and their 909 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: lifestyle the way they wanted was like a country club 910 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: in there. Um. And so you hire someone like Clay 911 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: Helton is just going to be happy to be there 912 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: and isn't going to push the envelope like if you 913 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: have a a Nick Saban or a Davilace, meaning like 914 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: they're going to tell you what's up, this is what 915 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: we need, is what we're gonna do. If the and 916 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: the age just says yes, sir, like that's it, you know, 917 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: And that's not the case for USC. So I think 918 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: now you bring in someone I think this is you know, 919 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: Mike Bones shown that he's been able to make good 920 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: hires and then get out of the way and let 921 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: them do their job. And I think he I don't know, 922 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: say metal, but he definitely was involved in Clay Hilton 923 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: and the coaching staff that they put together because Clay 924 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: Helton really wasn't uh, you know, going out there and 925 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: making good hires. There were a lot of familiar hires. Uh, 926 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: Mike Bone, I think made better hires for his assistance. 927 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: And now I think it's going to be his job. 928 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,919 Speaker 1: And you know, the main job you have at any 929 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: big time school is to hire the football coach and 930 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: hire someone and then let them do their jobs. So 931 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 1: I think he's ready to do that, George, But you're right, 932 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 1: that's not what us he has done in the past. Yeah. 933 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: The thing that I think that Clay Hilton's biggest mistake, 934 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: biggest mistake when he got the second opportunity to hire 935 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator, was hiring Graham Harrow. And I'm not 936 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: saying that Graham Harrod is a bad guy anything like that. 937 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 1: It's just that the air raid offense is a gimmick 938 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: offense built too for teams that have inferior talent to 939 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: keep up with the U s s of the world, 940 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: who can just run them over. And that's why USC 941 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: can't run the football. Like I tak to guys who 942 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: coaching the back twelve in the NFL current pack twelve 943 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 1: head coaches in private, they're like, this offense is extremely 944 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: easy to stop if you play disciplined football and then 945 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: you make a kick field goals all all day. I 946 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: think that that was the biggest mistake. Do you think 947 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: do you agree with that? And do you think that 948 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: Graham Harrold can possibly even stay on with this sort 949 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: of offense with whoever the new head coaches. Yeah, you know, 950 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: I didn't mind it at the beginning. I just wanted 951 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 1: USC to have an offensive identity. And we've just seen 952 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 1: before there were just like so many different cooks and 953 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 1: there was just like a gumbo type of offense, like 954 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: we do a little of this. I wanted to gurgle, 955 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: like if you were going to run power spread, are 956 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna run the air aad You're gonna run the 957 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,439 Speaker 1: run and shoot or that the wing t I don't care. 958 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: Have a guru that knows that offense well and brings 959 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: it in. And I felt like Graham Harrold was going 960 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: to be that. Are a guru that learned from Mike 961 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: Leach and and from that tree. But if you're watching softense, George, 962 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of twelve personnel, like they're doing two 963 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: tight ends. It's just it doesn't look like an air 964 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: rate anymore. It's like we're in the air rate. But 965 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: we're trying to run the football and it looks like 966 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: a mess. And I think that's part of the problem. 967 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: That they just ran the air raid. I think they 968 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: would have more success than what they're seeing now. But 969 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, they know when they bring 970 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: in Cliff Kingsbury and he was there for a month 971 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: and then gets the Arizona Cardinal's head job, they sort 972 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: of wanted to keep that team going, and then they 973 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: end up bringing in Graham Harrold. But then they didn't 974 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: bring in an offensive line coach that met that match 975 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: that scheme. They didn't do that until this year, So 976 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: it's been weird. George and I have a hard time 977 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: they're not scoring points, so I haven't have a hard 978 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: time picturing whoever the next head coaches would retain Graham Harold. 979 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: Graham Harold at this point, if he was scoring points 980 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: a game, you consider it. But I mean, they scored 981 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: twenty three offensive points against Santode State, and you know, 982 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 1: they had what thirteen points against Stanford in the fourth quarter, Like, 983 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna cut it for whoever the 984 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: next head coaches. There two more questions, Ryan before I 985 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: get you out of here. I gotta ask you about 986 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: Keaton Slovis because he looked fantastic as a freshman. Last 987 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: year is arm was hurt or something and he didn't 988 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: look very good at all at times, uh like throwing 989 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: power down. And this year he hasn't been as you know, 990 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,240 Speaker 1: as good as he necessarily was as a freshman either. 991 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that there's any chance that will that 992 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: will see who I think is the best court at 993 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,959 Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster Jackson dark Get anytime, anytime soon. 994 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,319 Speaker 1: I think Graham Harrold is a big He likes Jackson 995 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: Dart for sure, but I think he's a huge Keaton Slowsan. 996 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,280 Speaker 1: Those guys are. But I think as long as Graham 997 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: Harold is there, Keaton Slovis is gonna be the quarterback. 998 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna put all of it on Slowis 999 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 1: has definitely seemed like he's regressed, uh this season. Um 1000 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: and but we've seen this in the test or like 1001 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: Sam Donald was great when he came in his first 1002 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: year and then there are a lot of interceptions after 1003 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: that and then it left for the NFL. The more 1004 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: coaching they seem to get around, let's see the and 1005 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 1: that's the mean. Clayhilton is the consistent thing that he's 1006 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,360 Speaker 1: been there. He was a quarterback coach, he was the 1007 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,720 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and it just seems like the more coaching 1008 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: they get, the worst they get. And when he wasn't 1009 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,760 Speaker 1: the starter, is thrown into the mix as a freshman 1010 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: and have all these amazing games, and then since then 1011 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: we just haven't seen it that much. So I still 1012 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:25,439 Speaker 1: think he's a really talented kid. Um, there's something that's 1013 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: not right, and I don't think I'm not gonna put 1014 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 1: it on his shoulders. There's coaching stuff that's not right. 1015 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: There's there's issues going on there, and I think that's 1016 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: kind of he's the victim of that final final question 1017 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: for you. Right, I do not under well, I actually 1018 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: I do not know, So I'm asking this. So I'm 1019 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: on the usc U usc football dot com and it's 1020 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: called the Paris Style. Why the why is the board 1021 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: called the Paris Style? I don't, I don't know. Yeah, 1022 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 1: so the Paris Style I coined that name, I know 1023 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: twenty years ago now. But the the end of the 1024 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: Calle se Him, where those those archways are and the 1025 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: Olympic porches, that's called the parastyle, So we just called 1026 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 1: it the para style that became the p It's just 1027 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: become a it's a message board that's been around the 1028 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: longer story, so it's it's been it's a thing for 1029 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: USC people. But yeah, we we coined the name of 1030 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: the parastyle just from that end of the cal sum. 1031 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: It's stuck ever since. Okay, I see, I knew it 1032 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: was gonna be a simple answer that I did not 1033 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: know the answer to. But you guys, he's Ryan Abraham, 1034 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: owner and publisher of USC football dot Com and also 1035 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: listened to the podcast of Champions as well. Ryan, thanks 1036 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 1: for coming on the show, and uh better, better, more 1037 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: calm days ahead for you, hopefully soon for sure, Georgia, 1038 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the next Pacteal Apostles episode. So 1039 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: I always Ralph, I think it's crazy how things have 1040 00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: changed for Clay Helton pretty quickly, where he had so 1041 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: many people behind him, and then they had lost the fans, 1042 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: but then it seemed like they were sticking behind them, 1043 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: and then now like all the good will was lost, 1044 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: any goodwill left was last night, which Ryan Abraham was 1045 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of alluding to. Yeah, I don't even know if 1046 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: I it would have been hard pressed for me to 1047 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: find out who had goodwill. UM. The language on Twitter 1048 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: over the last three years toward Clay Hilton has been 1049 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: pretty abusive. Borderline like borderline like pitchforks January six type 1050 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,959 Speaker 1: stuff to where you thought that they win. Mike Bone 1051 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: announced that he wasn't going to make a change UM 1052 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: at head coach back in twenty nineteen, that you thought 1053 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: that they might storm the Colosseum, but that didn't end 1054 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: up happening. So UM they went six and three since 1055 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: that announcement by Mike Bone. But to not be compared 1056 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: editive is the biggest sin I think for UM people 1057 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: who are are USC fans. The idea that you would 1058 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: be down four touchdowns in the fourth quarter to arrival 1059 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: to to anybody really, anybody literally anybody if you're USC, 1060 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: you should never be down four touch now is to 1061 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: anybody period. Yeah, I find it fascinating that probably the 1062 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: most frustrating thing for USC fans, and I feel them 1063 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: on this, is that there it never the concerns going in, 1064 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: we're never alleviated, and so the amount of time spent 1065 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: in this space when you've had people screaming since day one, 1066 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 1: that this was the wrong higher because they hired a 1067 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: good guy and nice guys finished last. There have been 1068 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: people who have been screaming that since there's a Todd 1069 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: Harmonson article in the o C Register headlined Pat Hayden 1070 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: hires good guy in Clay Hilton, but needs a great coach, 1071 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Like this is not new, This entire criticism is not 1072 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: new and so and I think that's what makes it 1073 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: really frustrating for people who are fans of football teams, 1074 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: whether it's at Arizona State and people were like, does 1075 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: her Edwards have the experience to run an entire program 1076 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: after nine years out of UH football? And then you 1077 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: run into like issues of detail from not being in 1078 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: football for for the last nine years. UM with Clay 1079 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Helton is like, oh, is he's he's nice, but does 1080 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: he have what it takes to keep us competing for 1081 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Pack twelve and national championships? And then that never materializes? 1082 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: That thing can be so frustrating. You need a situation 1083 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 1: like u c l A where you actually see evolution 1084 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 1: over time and the primary criticism, especially at u c 1085 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: l A, where where it's he changed up recruiting and 1086 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: now we don't get the best kids available we get 1087 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: his kind of kids, and it's not good enough to win. 1088 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,439 Speaker 1: Now we're in the process of seeing that that might 1089 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily be true, that Chip Kelly might be able 1090 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,479 Speaker 1: to win with his kind of guys. In a major 1091 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: media market. You need that one thing that is your 1092 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: biggest critique to go away. And that never ever happened 1093 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: for Clay Hilton. Yep, absolutely, dude. Um Now we gotta 1094 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 1: get on to the rest of the games. In week two, 1095 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: we uh man, I just I don't know why Ralph 1096 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: I feel in such a groove right now as far 1097 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: as picking games. Uh So, how did we do last week? 1098 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. We have to 1099 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: talk about it. We're on the podcast. There's no ducking 1100 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 1: and dodging around his path, right, Well me out of 1101 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: respect for I'm not just gonna out there and win 1102 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of games on the week that Clay Hilton 1103 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: gets fired out of respect. Out of respect to Clay Hilton. 1104 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: I went five and five against the spread and five 1105 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and five and over unders. Oh so, oh so you 1106 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: just want it to you know, it was the tip 1107 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: tip of the cap to a really good guy. Yeah, okay, 1108 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: so you so you were putting out your Clay Helton experience. 1109 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: How how did I do? You went eight and two 1110 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: and your your sixteen and seven overall, your seven games 1111 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: ahead of me in against the spread, which is insane 1112 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 1: for through two weeks. Um, and you went six and 1113 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,680 Speaker 1: four and over unders two. We're both tied at twelve 1114 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: ten and one for that on the season. Um. So 1115 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: moral of the story, if you're trying to get your 1116 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 1: picks right, holiday to your boy, listen to listen to 1117 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the picks. All right, you got rich off your picks 1118 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: this week for sure, Oh my god. Absolutely all right. 1119 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: So let's start. So we already covered the Stanford USC game, 1120 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: which was they were favored by seventeen points, what I 1121 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: thought was absolutely insane. We did, and we did the 1122 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: whole thing without giving a shout out to Kyle Blue Kelly, 1123 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: who might be the best player in the entire pack twelve. 1124 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: He was really good at corner that that kid, That 1125 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: kid can play. Um, all right, let's go to the 1126 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Texas A and M Colorado game. I picked Colorado in 1127 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: this game. I knew that they were going to keep 1128 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: the game close, but they ended up hurting Texas A 1129 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: and M's quarterback and They had the lead for literally 1130 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the entire game until a minute and some I left 1131 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: and then Texas A and M's defense just pinned their 1132 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 1: ears back. They couldn't even get a pass off on 1133 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: on the last drive. This had to hurt because they 1134 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: were on the verge of pulling off a major upset, 1135 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: which would have dude, if tech, if Colorado had won 1136 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: that game, that would have been bigger than Oregon beating 1137 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State because of the the implications it would have 1138 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: had in the College football playoffs and the SEC because 1139 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Texas A and M would have been out of it period, 1140 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,200 Speaker 1: out of the College Football Playoff unless they beat Alabama, 1141 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: and then as soon as they lost to Alabama, they're out. 1142 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 1: And if they beat other people, then that makes the 1143 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: Pack twelve look phenomenal. Dude, So I thought the Pack 1144 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 1: twelve squandered an opportunity to win a seven to three game, 1145 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: which would have been incredible. Yeah. Oh, and and the 1146 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: final score was Tenda seven if you don't know, to 1147 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: tenna seven Texas and M. They scored with a minute left. 1148 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: It was tennis seven. Um. Interesting thing about this game, 1149 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Zach Calzada probably put on one of the worst performances 1150 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: I've ever seen from a quarterback in my life up 1151 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 1: until their final drive when he converted five straight third 1152 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 1: downs to take them to take them from three for 1153 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: fifteen on third down throughout the day to eight for twenty. Yes, 1154 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: he was one of the guts eighteen thirty eight. That 1155 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: was definitely one of the gutsiest and best drives I've 1156 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: ever seen. Came from somebody who was having one of 1157 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the worst games I've ever seen, so part like that 1158 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,000 Speaker 1: was kind of inspirational to watch. Zach Kelsada, I obviously 1159 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: would have preferred if Colorado held on. I told you 1160 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 1: on the Right Stare Wrong podcast that this game felt 1161 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: like the hold Or scene from Game of Thrones, whereas 1162 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 1: this hold the door, hold the door, hold the door, 1163 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: hold or and then murder. You know it's it was um. 1164 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun in the first half 1165 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: of this game because the running back duo of Alex 1166 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Fontno and Jered Broussard were looking good and Brendan Lewis 1167 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: was looking good as well, and all three of those 1168 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: guys are from Texas and none of them got an 1169 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: A and M offer, so I was really enjoying Colorado's 1170 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 1: Texas guys. Beating up on Texas A and M. Um. 1171 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, though, you got to 1172 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: produce something on offense, and Colorado was not able to 1173 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: do that. They went for it on fourth down deep 1174 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: in a um, Texas A and M territory. You said 1175 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: you liked that they were being aggressive, but they came 1176 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: away with nothing. They missed another field goal, which obviously 1177 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,760 Speaker 1: would have had so many shots, dude, they had so 1178 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 1: many shots to to win the game. And then Brendan Lewis, 1179 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Colorado's quarterback, was thirt team for twenty five for eighty 1180 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: nine yards in a pick. Dude. Yeah, yeah, he needs 1181 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: he needs to and I didn't like that. They weren't 1182 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: really able to find Brendan Rice or give him a 1183 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: chance to go up, but they couldn't protect They literally 1184 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 1: could not protect him. As soon as the ball was snapped. 1185 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 1: It reminded me of necessary roughness where he should have 1186 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: been running to the official. Blow the whistle, blow the whistle. 1187 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 1: It was bad, dude. Um. There are a couple of 1188 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: really crazy performances in this game. Josh Watts, the Colorado punter. 1189 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: He punted seven times for an average of forty nine yards. 1190 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen that before. Nate 1191 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: Lamon's back. Um, Mark Perry is really good. Mark Perry 1192 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,000 Speaker 1: is an NFL prospect like he is, and and Naim 1193 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Rodman has improved, and I like him on the defensive line. 1194 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 1: This was really encouraging if you're Colorado. But still I 1195 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: heard after the game from a couple of the players 1196 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: on the team that they were furious. They really really 1197 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: feel like they they let each other down. Um, which 1198 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: is I guess the feeling you need to come. You 1199 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: don't want to feel lucky. You don't want to feel proud. 1200 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 1: You you want to you want to feel determined, and 1201 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: you want to feel like you proved something. And the 1202 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: thing that kept Colorado in this game more than anything 1203 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: is two penalties for seventeen yards. They were super disciplined. 1204 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: They did everything they could to not give the game away. 1205 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,759 Speaker 1: They only have the one turnover, uh, and they actually 1206 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 1: kept time of possession pretty even. Yeah, it was a 1207 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 1: good game, you know, but this was the type of 1208 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 1: game why recruiting matters that you had. Colorado essentially ran 1209 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: out of talent at the at the end of the game, 1210 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,559 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M's players, we're just better, not 1211 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: necessarily better code, not necessarily better anything, except for they 1212 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 1: were just better or they had more better players that 1213 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 1: they couldn't block. Texas A and M they and then 1214 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: they're best player. Spiller got got open for a touchdown 1215 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: on third down, like at the end of the game, 1216 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: because had he missed that, had they either that either 1217 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 1: gotten broken up or he missed that pass. Dude their 1218 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 1: fourth in seven, fourth and eight, and now all the 1219 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: pressures on you gotta get one stop, a drop past, 1220 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,639 Speaker 1: a tackle, of trip of bad snap anything games over. 1221 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,679 Speaker 1: So in Texas and M just had more talent, and 1222 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: and not just more talent. They've had the numbers according 1223 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: to Rivals, they've had the number six recruiting class in 1224 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 1: the country three years in a row. They should have 1225 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 1: looked a lot better than so. Colorado instance, on some 1226 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: levels should be super out. But at the same time, 1227 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I'd be like Zach Calzata kept Colorado in the game 1228 01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 1: until he didn't. That drive where he converted five straight 1229 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: third downs was very uncharacteristic to what he had done 1230 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: up to that point. He looked terrible up to that point, 1231 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: so that I mean that what a performance by him. 1232 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 1: He won the game. Yep, absolutely Um, next game, you 1233 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: had b y U well hosting number twenty one Utah 1234 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,440 Speaker 1: and Utah was favored by how much a touchdown? Seven 1235 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 1: year and this was the Holy War, which b y 1236 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 1: U hasn't won since two thousand eight or nine. Yeah 1237 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, so it's been was that twelve years since 1238 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 1: they won. And they went out and put it bruising 1239 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,599 Speaker 1: on Utah, like they were up twenty three to seven 1240 01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter, and then Utah was able 1241 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: to make a little bit of a run, but it 1242 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,640 Speaker 1: was this was a one sided affaret. Yes, and I 1243 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,040 Speaker 1: had written before the game that the Utah fans probably 1244 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: weren't gonna like my take on this, but that um 1245 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 1: that you actually had a pretty good shot for BYU 1246 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: to win this game because there was nothing in it 1247 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: for Utah. Like I get that it's a rivalry, but 1248 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 1: they had won so many times in a row that 1249 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: it's almost like the rivalry for Utah has moved on 1250 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 1: to the l A Schools or a s U. They 1251 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,560 Speaker 1: were not taking by U very seriously. Um, nothing is 1252 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: going to change with this because, like to quote Jimmy Lake, 1253 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,640 Speaker 1: all of Utah's goals are still in front of them. 1254 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 1: This doesn't affect Utah in the slightest as far as 1255 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: what they're going to be able to accomplish within the 1256 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 1: PAC twelfth South. That's gonna be their priority. So I 1257 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I wrote, Uh, if they left Probo with an l 1258 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: no one's gonna lose their job. Nothing's gonna change as 1259 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 1: far as their chances in the PAC twelve South, and 1260 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: it will have negligible imp act on recruiting the The 1261 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: only thing that that that the conference needed overall would 1262 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,439 Speaker 1: be for Utah. We've got this win, so they could 1263 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 1: stay within the top twenty five, But even then the 1264 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,640 Speaker 1: conference doesn't really need that because it moved b why 1265 01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 1: you into the top twenty five, which if Arizona State 1266 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: takes care of business, would give them another quality win. So, um, 1267 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 1: I think you just ran into a situation where it 1268 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: was a trap game. Not enough people with within the 1269 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: Utah family remember what it's even like to lose to 1270 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 1: B y U. So maybe this will kind of reignite 1271 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 1: some of the um some of the fervor within this rivalry. 1272 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 1: Even though we did have a Utah fan as they 1273 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: often do, take shit way too far uh during this 1274 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 1: game and that was no fun. Well tell them tell 1275 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: them about it. So Um, a Utah fan who is 1276 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the CEO of a marketing company decided to come to 1277 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: the game. And I don't know if he knew that 1278 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 1: Max Hall was gonna be UM at the game. Max 1279 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Hall's a former b y U quarterback who transferred from 1280 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Arizona State. He had over ten thousand yards passing and 1281 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 1: he was um part of a very heated rivalry with 1282 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 1: UH with with Utah to say the least, he had 1283 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 1: said that he hates the team, hates their fans, hates 1284 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: everything about him. Um that they had poured beer on 1285 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: his family once and I don't I think that might 1286 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: have come out that maybe that didn't even happen. But 1287 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Utah fans don't like Max Hall. Max Hall doesn't like 1288 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,719 Speaker 1: Utah fans. Um. But Max Hall is a high school 1289 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: coach out in Arizona. He had had some trouble. He 1290 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 1: got arrested. One to the backpack with some like liquid 1291 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 1: cocaine and syringes and stuff. He has a mug shot 1292 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 1: out there. Um, and this guy, his name's Todd Nole. 1293 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: He's a he's a CEO of a marketing company, successful 1294 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 1: marketing company out in Utah, decided to make and sell 1295 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 1: shirts that say Max Hall's coke is caffeine free. War 1296 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,520 Speaker 1: one to the game where Max Hall was in attendance 1297 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 1: with his young son. Um didn't get his ass kicked 1298 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: even though it was in the heart of Provo, and 1299 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 1: it kind of spilled over on the social media afterward, 1300 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: with Max Hall's wife reaching out to the guy and saying, like, 1301 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: what would you have done if my son saw this? 1302 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: Like why? Why? Why do you think addictions something to 1303 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: joke about? Like he's come back from this, He's still 1304 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: coaching high school, he has been for years. Um, you know, 1305 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: why would you make fun of something like this? He 1306 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: blocked her than a bunch of Utah fans and b 1307 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 1: y U fans have kind of gone in on this guy, 1308 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,840 Speaker 1: and I guess he has a thing where he was 1309 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 1: trying to raise money for Make a Wish Foundation, and 1310 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 1: in response to try to get this guy to apologize, 1311 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: over six thousand dollars in donations have been made to 1312 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Make a Wish in this guy's name, which is uh 1313 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 1: which which is an interesting response. But I just wondered 1314 01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: what your take was on that On that, George, is 1315 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,639 Speaker 1: that is that taking things too far within the way 1316 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 1: to sell and wear a shirt with Max All's face 1317 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: on it making fun of him getting arrested for drugs. Yes, bro, like, 1318 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 1: like it's such a twert move, Like you're a low 1319 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 1: character individual. It's bad, dude, It's it's just bad because 1320 01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:03,640 Speaker 1: why on earth would you revel in somebody else's personal 1321 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 1: you know, miss misfortune and drugs is something that happens 1322 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 1: to rich people, poor people, other stuff. It's it's a 1323 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: bad deal. So if you revel in that sort of thing, 1324 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 1: you are a low character individual. So I don't really 1325 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 1: have a lot for you. Somebody just dropped a ten 1326 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 1: thousand dollar donation, so now it's up to sixty five 1327 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,919 Speaker 1: dollars and sixty cents. One of the people that donated 1328 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:34,680 Speaker 1: signed their name is Klanni Sataki. Oh wow, that's funny. 1329 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 1: It says, uh, Kilanni Sataki, Max's friend one dollars. So 1330 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 1: if that's true that Killanni Sataki donated to make a 1331 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: wish in the name of this Utah fan who wore 1332 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: this shirt to the game. That is pretty wild. Yep, 1333 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: that would that's the ultimate troll job. Um all right, 1334 01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 1: next game up, we had you and LV at Arizona State. 1335 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Arizona State won the game thirty seven to ten. How 1336 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: do we do in our picks on that one? I 1337 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: think we you got it right because you went in 1338 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: you n l V plus thirty two and a half. 1339 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 1: I think we both got the over under wrong. So 1340 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 1: I think you were one on one and I was 1341 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: on two. Pretty So the interesting thing about this game 1342 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 1: was is that you and l V. They're head coach 1343 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 1: is Marcus Arroyo. He has started out oh and eight 1344 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,599 Speaker 1: at It was Oregan's offensive coordinator who I thought was 1345 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: terrible at being an offensive coordinator. I said that he 1346 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: would be a much better head coach. I have been wrong. 1347 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 1: They've lost eight straight games. They have only scored They 1348 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 1: scored twenty seven points once, twenty one points once, and 1349 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 1: all the rest of the games have been nineteen points 1350 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 1: or less. He's supposed to be an offensive genius. They 1351 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 1: were playing, mind you, They've played Arizona State, they've lost 1352 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 1: to Eastern Washington, and then they lost to every school 1353 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 1: that they played last season, which means that they didn't 1354 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: play any Power five schools because they it was a 1355 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 1: so they were playing schools that were on the on 1356 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: their level and they just got their doors blown off. Um, 1357 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 1: so you know, who knows how long he will last there. 1358 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:27,719 Speaker 1: But you also had Arizona State. How would you judge 1359 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 1: Arizona State's performance in this game which put them to two? 1360 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: And oh ah, they still got issues that in the 1361 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: passing game. Other than that, it's about as good of 1362 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 1: a performance as you could want, to be honest. They 1363 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 1: I think they gave up like sixty yards passing or 1364 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:48,640 Speaker 1: something absurd like that. Uh, shut the running game down. Offensively, 1365 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,680 Speaker 1: they were able to run the ball decently. Um. There 1366 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 1: was kind of a weird situation where Daniel gotta look 1367 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: like he busted his wrist or something, and then he 1368 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,640 Speaker 1: was back on the field afterward, and then he had 1369 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: to leave the field the second time. I don't know 1370 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 1: what was going on there, But they're dinged up in 1371 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: the running game chip trainers out, um, so they they 1372 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 1: had to rely pretty heavily on one back in this game. 1373 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,639 Speaker 1: And I think that un l V had some success 1374 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 1: keying in on the running game and trying to get 1375 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,719 Speaker 1: Jade Daniels to beat them. In the passing game. Jade 1376 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 1: Daniels tried to go end zone for Johnny Wilson and 1377 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 1: got picked off. Because they keep trying to kind of 1378 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: force this, but he did throw a touchdown to Johnny 1379 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,680 Speaker 1: Wilson um in the back of the end zone later on, 1380 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,839 Speaker 1: but it's it's just the Johnny Wilson things. Remains strange 1381 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 1: because Jade Daniels is so good about doing things within 1382 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: the flow of the offense, but it seems like they 1383 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,800 Speaker 1: really want to make this Johnny Wilson thing happen um, 1384 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 1: And there have been a lot of mistakes to come 1385 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 1: out of that in the USC game last year, in 1386 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 1: the opener this year, and and and against un LB 1387 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 1: as well. So um, they will get Elijah badger Um, 1388 01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 1: who is a really highly touted receiver who's looked really 1389 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: good in practice at to um the active roster this 1390 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 1: upcoming week against b y U. But other than that, 1391 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they looked about as good as you can 1392 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 1: look on defense. Offensively, it's just gonna be a matter 1393 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: of does Jaden Daniels have the ability to do this 1394 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,200 Speaker 1: with his arm because he had a hundred twenty two 1395 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: yards rushing and most of that came on runs that 1396 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: were not designed. He had to pull the ball down 1397 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 1: and make something happen. Yep. So yeah, we will see 1398 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 1: what Arizona States made out of this week because we 1399 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,759 Speaker 1: will talk about that um in just a few minutes. 1400 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 1: You had Cow at TCU. This was a game that 1401 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,240 Speaker 1: Cal was supposed to win. Dude, they were supposed to 1402 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: win this football game. They found they found a way 1403 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,719 Speaker 1: to lose when when you when you should win. Now 1404 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: they're owing to with losses to Nevada and to TCU, 1405 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:57,679 Speaker 1: and Justin Willis Cox's seats gotta be getting it. It's 1406 01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 1: not hot yet, but it definitely is not you know, 1407 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: a cool, lukewarm or untouchable seat right now? Do you 1408 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 1: think it's not? I don't think that they're gonna fire him. 1409 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,519 Speaker 1: I mean he he would have to continue to lose. 1410 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,600 Speaker 1: But I'm saying like this is the beginning stages of 1411 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,759 Speaker 1: of a potential hot seat because they have Sacramento State 1412 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 1: coming up this week, which you're gonna win, and then 1413 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:32,519 Speaker 1: they go at Washington. They're both gonna need that win, right, 1414 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake and Justin Wilcox need that win because otherwise 1415 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 1: Cow falls to one in three, and then you got 1416 01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 1: Washington State in Oregon after that, Like it's not gonna 1417 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: get easy. So you know, like so you could be 1418 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 1: at two and four real quick, and and now you're like, 1419 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,799 Speaker 1: how are we gonna make a bowl game? So Cow's 1420 01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 1: got to get to a bowl game. And I don't 1421 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 1: think he's in danger of being fired, but he's in 1422 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 1: danger of his seat getting if that makes sense. Yeah. 1423 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,519 Speaker 1: I mean they have lost two games that they should 1424 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,720 Speaker 1: have won. They had a nineteen seven lead on TCU. 1425 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: They screwed up the extra point situation three separate times. Yes, 1426 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,439 Speaker 1: they went for two three times and only got it 1427 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: once or not? No? Right? Right? So if they were 1428 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: in a situation where they weren't trying to get that 1429 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 1: two points back and they just said okay, so we 1430 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,920 Speaker 1: messed up on the extra point attempt to start because 1431 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,599 Speaker 1: I think that was a bad snap where the holder 1432 01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,680 Speaker 1: had to try to throw the ball. Uh. And if 1433 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 1: they went for the extra point the other two times, 1434 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 1: then we're looking at a situation. Um, did you have 1435 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 1: something playing in the background, Row, I have something playing 1436 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: in the background. Oh, I don't. I don't have anything open. 1437 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 1: It might have been you, M maybe Um I didn't 1438 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 1: hear it on my so, UM, I will say this. 1439 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,240 Speaker 1: They should be two and oh and TCU looked like 1440 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,800 Speaker 1: the better team. Uh. That wide receiver number one on 1441 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,240 Speaker 1: the outside for TCU, he looked like a top ten pick. Um. 1442 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: I thought TCU looked like more physical. I thought their 1443 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: quarterback looked like an upgraded version of Chase Garbage. They 1444 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: looked like they were getting from him what Cal wants 1445 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: at a Chase Garbage. I thought that Chase Garber's going 1446 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 1: over the top um a couple of different times. He 1447 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of looked like the Chase Garbers of old. Uh. 1448 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,799 Speaker 1: But it's just it hasn't been enough. They don't they 1449 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 1: haven't done enough. They should be two and oh at 1450 01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: this point, that's all I have to say. They should 1451 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,320 Speaker 1: be two and oh. There should be a top twenty 1452 01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 1: five team, and that's on them. Yeah, you are right. 1453 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:49,360 Speaker 1: The margins between winning and losing are super are super 1454 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,439 Speaker 1: super and that narrow. What what were our picks this week? 1455 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 1: I think we both went with Cal to cover, So 1456 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,200 Speaker 1: I think we we got that one, and I think 1457 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 1: we both call be over. I think I think we 1458 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:06,040 Speaker 1: both had success on that one. Okay, all right, Um, 1459 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 1: what game is next? We had Oregon State Hawaii and 1460 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,240 Speaker 1: Oregon State won forty seven. I honestly I didn't watch 1461 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 1: a ton of this game because Oregon State was up 1462 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven early, and it was during a 1463 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 1: bunch of like all the back twelve games came on 1464 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 1: at one time, and I only have three TVs. There 1465 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 1: was four games on, so I was switching between UH 1466 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 1: Arizona a little bit and then this Hawaii game. And 1467 01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 1: then it was so late because the Oregon game came 1468 01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,799 Speaker 1: on so early, I was watching games. I've been watching 1469 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 1: games for thirteen straight hours already, and I was like, 1470 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm tired, right, and Oregan State was gonna win. So 1471 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad that I didn't stop watching this game, because 1472 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,840 Speaker 1: at one point it was thirty one seven and I 1473 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,639 Speaker 1: could have just shut it off, but I did not. 1474 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 1: And in the second half, I watched both teams open 1475 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the playbook up super wide and it was a blast. 1476 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:13,120 Speaker 1: It was playground backyard football, double passes, weird stuff, um 1477 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,120 Speaker 1: so much fun. That second half was like just joyous 1478 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 1: football from both both squads. Uh and it was really enjoyable. Obviously, 1479 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Hawaii was outclassed, um Jonathan Smith. They kicked the crap 1480 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 1: out of the Rainbow Warriors in that first half, but 1481 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: but they never neither team stopped playing hard, which which 1482 01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,320 Speaker 1: made it a lot of fun. Um and that. That 1483 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 1: was the other thing about Oregon State is they could 1484 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,760 Speaker 1: have let up, and maybe they did defensively a little 1485 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 1: bit um, but offensively they were they were still going 1486 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: hard and that that was a lot of fun to watch. 1487 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 1: It was encouraging after what happened with Perdue because it 1488 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 1: really felt like Perdue had their number, which you don't 1489 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 1: really say that very often when it comes to Jonathan 1490 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,880 Speaker 1: Smith coached offense. Is I am struggling to see very 1491 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 1: many wins on this schedule if they don't have the 1492 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: ability to um keep the pressure up on defense the 1493 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 1: way they did with Hawaii in that first half. Um, 1494 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 1: But offensively it looks like they're figuring it out. It 1495 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 1: looks like that Nolan is going to be the right 1496 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,760 Speaker 1: guy at quarterback. He sees the field really well and 1497 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't have to go too deep 1498 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 1: on any of these passes, I think that I think 1499 01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,679 Speaker 1: they'll be good. I think they'll keep rolling with Nolan 1500 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean this is a This is definitely 1501 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,559 Speaker 1: a fun team to watch. All right, we will we 1502 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 1: will see when everybody else actually starts watching them, because 1503 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 1: they play Idaho this week. So aside from Oregon State fans, 1504 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,719 Speaker 1: they will not be watched again. Umy San Diego State 1505 01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,679 Speaker 1: at Arizona. I expected Arizona to win this game. Jed 1506 01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Fish went door to door to the fraternities and tote them, 1507 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,599 Speaker 1: you guys need to come out and support your teams, 1508 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:08,799 Speaker 1: come out and support us, and then you got that. Yeah, 1509 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 1: that was embarrassing. So what's the worst thing that could 1510 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,600 Speaker 1: have happened? Jet Fish tells everybody to show up and 1511 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 1: they get blown out, Right, that's the worst thing that 1512 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:22,240 Speaker 1: could have happened. Yes, incorrect, jet Fish tells everybody to 1513 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,920 Speaker 1: show up. They try, and security doesn't let anybody in 1514 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 1: on time, and so yes, yes, so they introduced metal 1515 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,600 Speaker 1: detectors and clear bag policy, but they didn't have a 1516 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 1: bunch of metal detectors and so nobody was able to 1517 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,680 Speaker 1: get in on time, which means by the time they 1518 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 1: found their seats, Arizona was down twenty one and nothing. Oh, 1519 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,120 Speaker 1: and they were like, why are we here? Right? Right? 1520 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,559 Speaker 1: So it's not they didn't even get a zero zero, 1521 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,439 Speaker 1: They didn't even get that. This is the only game 1522 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 1: that I have not gather up the stomach to watch 1523 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: yet I watched the other nine games start to finish. 1524 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 1: I've got this one recorded on Sling And I don't 1525 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,479 Speaker 1: know if I could do it. I don't know if 1526 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 1: I want to see them get down twenty one and 1527 01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: nothing in the first quarter and watch people start emptying 1528 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 1: out of the stands the second that they showed up. 1529 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 1: They just turned to do. It's like that meme from 1530 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 1: The Simpsons where he walks in the house, puts his 1531 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 1: hat down, grabs it back, and walks right back out. 1532 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know, man, I don't know about scheduling you. 1533 01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,400 Speaker 1: And I've been doing this podcast for over two years now, 1534 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,840 Speaker 1: and I've said a million times on this schedule quick 1535 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,680 Speaker 1: or on this podcast, quit scheduling the Aztecs. Stop it, 1536 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: like knock it off their three and oh against the 1537 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Arizona schools in the last three seasons or four seasons 1538 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 1: and the yeah, and there's like six and two over 1539 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 1: the last decade. Either either add him to the conference 1540 01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:58,800 Speaker 1: or kick him out. Oh dude, hey, and remember we 1541 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 1: are very os to having to well, actually, depending on 1542 01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:08,759 Speaker 1: what happens with uh B y U and Arizona this week, 1543 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,360 Speaker 1: we may actually we may have to start covering B 1544 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,519 Speaker 1: y you remember, Yeah, they are beat two pack twelve 1545 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:22,480 Speaker 1: teams now if they beat the third one and then Washington, 1546 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 1: they still got Washington State in USC two. Bro, they 1547 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 1: have two more Pack twelve wins than uh like ten 1548 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:38,280 Speaker 1: of the teams in the conference right now. Yeah, Stanford 1549 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: is the only one with a pack twelve win right yeah. Yeah. 1550 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,160 Speaker 1: So the current the current best team in the Pack 1551 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: twelve is b y U. According to Just to Win 1552 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,760 Speaker 1: the Winds call him um change at quarterback for Arizona. 1553 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 1: They are rolling with Will Plumber. Um. This is a 1554 01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 1: kid I know really well. Uh. He is a former 1555 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,920 Speaker 1: high school safety and linebacker. He does not he is 1556 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 1: not a pocket passer. Um. He kind of will give 1557 01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,040 Speaker 1: you a little bit of that. I don't know if 1558 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 1: you watch the uh the um Derek Carr led Raiders 1559 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,080 Speaker 1: last night where he was throwing bombs off his back 1560 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 1: foot after dropping back fifteen yards. Um, you'll get a 1561 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 1: little bit of that from Will Plumber. He likes to um. 1562 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,120 Speaker 1: He he likes to let loose. He's not a super 1563 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:29,240 Speaker 1: accurate passer, but he is extremely athletic, and he'll get 1564 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,519 Speaker 1: out on the run and sometimes he'll forget he's a quarterback. 1565 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 1: He'll try to pulling Anthony Brown and run into the 1566 01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:38,360 Speaker 1: heartier defense, and so UM, it will be interesting to 1567 01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:44,479 Speaker 1: see what that does for University of Arizona against Northern Arizona. 1568 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 1: I know some really really cynical You have a fans 1569 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 1: who have called this game an audition, UM for all 1570 01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,920 Speaker 1: of Arizona's quarterbacks to see who's going to be the 1571 01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,519 Speaker 1: starter for an AU next year, because they don't feel Yeah, 1572 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,640 Speaker 1: isn't that rough, Because they don't believe that they're going 1573 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,360 Speaker 1: to be able to win with McLeod Cruise or or Plumber. 1574 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,720 Speaker 1: So that the idea that some people are calling this 1575 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 1: game an audition for the FCS team that exists to 1576 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 1: him in the state of Arizona is pretty brutal. They 1577 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 1: better win, and they is not very good this year, 1578 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 1: and and then you almost beat them two years ago 1579 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,200 Speaker 1: in Tucson to start the season. I think they scored 1580 01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: over forty points. Oh my god, dude. We will We 1581 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 1: will ultimately see how that goes. Another fun game in 1582 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, Portland's State at Washington State. Washington State 1583 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: prevails forty four to twenty four. UM. Portland's they got 1584 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 1: too late touchdowns to make to bring this game closer, 1585 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 1: because otherwise it would have been a thirty four point 1586 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,960 Speaker 1: victory and only ended up being a twenty point victory. 1587 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 1: What do you make out of Washington State. They've lost 1588 01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 1: the Utah State, which you know that was a disaster, 1589 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,040 Speaker 1: and then they come back and beat Portless Date. Well, 1590 01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 1: they were dominating the game that they lost to start 1591 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: the season. They gave that game away, and so it 1592 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,680 Speaker 1: was completely reasonable that they would come out and they 1593 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,479 Speaker 1: would dominate. Um, Portland's state there. There still looks to 1594 01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 1: be some rust on offense. But I remember somebody I 1595 01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,400 Speaker 1: can't remember was one of the other Pack twelve podcasts 1596 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:36,960 Speaker 1: or what, um, but I remember somebody specifically saying that 1597 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: they thought the defense had quit on Nick Rolovich last week. 1598 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 1: That's not what I saw at all. And again I 1599 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 1: have watched every Pack twelve game for the last three 1600 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,559 Speaker 1: weeks except for one. Right, I I see this defense 1601 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,479 Speaker 1: is actually given quite a bit of of effort. Um. 1602 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:57,040 Speaker 1: My whole thing with with Washington State is were they 1603 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:01,240 Speaker 1: going to realize that ax Borgi is one of the 1604 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,639 Speaker 1: best offensive weapons in the Pac twelve and actually give 1605 01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,400 Speaker 1: him more than twelve touches which is all he got 1606 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,800 Speaker 1: in Week one two? Right fifteen, and the game was 1607 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,559 Speaker 1: at a hand. So those were those were meaningful and 1608 01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,760 Speaker 1: I think it opened things up for everybody else. And 1609 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,920 Speaker 1: the other thing that that you and I talked about 1610 01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 1: in our season preview podcast is I thought it was 1611 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,479 Speaker 1: complete bullshit that Trevell Harris was not on any of 1612 01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:30,519 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve preseason awards lists, and he looks very good. 1613 01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 1: He looks really good. I think it was it's because 1614 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,880 Speaker 1: of the system that they play in where they're going 1615 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,439 Speaker 1: to throw the ball so many times. And but at 1616 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 1: the same time, Drake London is on those lists. Two 1617 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:48,240 Speaker 1: he's in a raid offense, but he had a fifty 1618 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:50,320 Speaker 1: yard kick return and the twenty two yard part returned 1619 01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 1: to go along with his two touchdowns, so he is 1620 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,599 Speaker 1: it's not just the offense. He's special when he has 1621 01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. They need to get it 1622 01:32:56,240 --> 01:33:00,160 Speaker 1: to him as as much as possible. So I I 1623 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 1: think that they, um, they looked good in this game. 1624 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they have some type of regret about 1625 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:10,000 Speaker 1: letting Portland's state back back into the game. But at 1626 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 1: the same time, um, you know, they did what they 1627 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 1: were supposed to, which cools the coals under um Nikolovitch's 1628 01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,599 Speaker 1: chair for just a few more days. Yeah, yeah, because 1629 01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 1: he's got about thirty thirty more days for it's super hot. Um. 1630 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,439 Speaker 1: Now on to the two games, the last two games 1631 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 1: that we didn't talk about in the Pack twelve, and 1632 01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 1: these were the two biggest non conference matchups in terms 1633 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,120 Speaker 1: of like ones that people thought that they had a 1634 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,360 Speaker 1: chance to win, because nobody really gave Colorado a chance 1635 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 1: to win against Texas A and them. They thought that 1636 01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,960 Speaker 1: they could cover at least I did, and they did, 1637 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:59,560 Speaker 1: but I just did not foresee them winning that football game. Um, 1638 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,960 Speaker 1: you have Washington in Michigan. This game was played in 1639 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 1: the Big House. Michigan won the game thirty one to ten. 1640 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,559 Speaker 1: And when you dig into the numbers, Michigan only through 1641 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:18,400 Speaker 1: fifteen passes, they threw the ball for forty four yards 1642 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 1: Ralph forty four yards. They were seven for fifteen. But 1643 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,400 Speaker 1: then they ran the ball fifty six times for three 1644 01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,960 Speaker 1: forty three And this looked like a game where Michigan 1645 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:33,559 Speaker 1: did exactly what Washington wanted to do with Jimmy like 1646 01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,879 Speaker 1: run to damn football. And it was just a honestly, 1647 01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:42,640 Speaker 1: on television, it was a very very boring watch despite 1648 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:48,280 Speaker 1: the ratings doing okay, yeah, it had a I mean, 1649 01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,280 Speaker 1: it really had a prime spot on television. And if 1650 01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 1: you were watching, if you were watching that game when 1651 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:56,719 Speaker 1: they came out of the tunnel, if if you watch 1652 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:00,080 Speaker 1: that sky shot over the stadium and you saw the 1653 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,240 Speaker 1: yellow pom bombs, you were at least going to watch 1654 01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,400 Speaker 1: this game for a quarter. Yes, dude, tell me that 1655 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,559 Speaker 1: wasn't a great site. Oh my gosh, it was. It 1656 01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 1: was something else. It looked like it really really looked 1657 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 1: like a beautiful sight to see. And then if you 1658 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,760 Speaker 1: gave this game one quarter and it was only three 1659 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,840 Speaker 1: to nothing, you probably gave a second quarter. My guest 1660 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 1: is most people turn this off in the third quarter. 1661 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,080 Speaker 1: But I remember tweeting at the time when it was 1662 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,400 Speaker 1: ten to nothing Michigan that Washington might as well be 1663 01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:31,760 Speaker 1: down thirty thousand points. Yes it, dude, Yes, ten ten 1664 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,960 Speaker 1: points is like literally thirty thousand to them, because in 1665 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 1: two games they've scored against Montana and Michigan, they've scored 1666 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:43,120 Speaker 1: a grand total of seventeen points. In Michigan. Michigan was like, look, 1667 01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:46,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna take your running game away completely. Your your 1668 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,920 Speaker 1: offensive line doesn't mean anything to us, nothing, and we're 1669 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,519 Speaker 1: gonna take away your tight end, we are going to 1670 01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 1: leave you with that quarterback and the receivers that didn't 1671 01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 1: transfer out. What can you do And the answer is nothing. 1672 01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:05,200 Speaker 1: The answer was absolutely nothing. I don't um. I know 1673 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,360 Speaker 1: that Michigan didn't throw much, but there was so there 1674 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 1: was no one to sack. Um. So Washington's defense ends 1675 01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,640 Speaker 1: up looking bad because even though they kept them in 1676 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,400 Speaker 1: the game for the second week in a row, they 1677 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: kept them in the game. Um, Washington went six straight 1678 01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:29,080 Speaker 1: quarters without a touchdown before getting one in the fourth. Yeah, 1679 01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,799 Speaker 1: that's and and then if you go back to last season, 1680 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:36,960 Speaker 1: they had gone a lot of quarters without scoring. It's 1681 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty bad. It's pretty brutal. And what what do 1682 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:46,599 Speaker 1: you make of the fact that that that's their game plan. 1683 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,479 Speaker 1: We're we're gonna line up, We're gonna try to just 1684 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:52,920 Speaker 1: run it down your damn throat. When we've heard coach Shaw, 1685 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: we've heard other coaches talk about that you actually have 1686 01:36:56,479 --> 01:37:00,360 Speaker 1: to play to your personnel and and divise ski teams 1687 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,439 Speaker 1: for your personnel as opposed to you trying to get 1688 01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:08,479 Speaker 1: your personnel to fit what you want them to do. Yeah, 1689 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Sean McGrew not even getting 1690 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,240 Speaker 1: off the bench cam already pleasant, not even getting off 1691 01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,800 Speaker 1: the bench. They haven't played for two weeks. Now, what 1692 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,639 Speaker 1: would you what would you be thinking if you were them? 1693 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake told you you're not good enough to play 1694 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 1: on this team, and then they go out and lay 1695 01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:30,120 Speaker 1: an egg. Dad's a dude, I didn't even think about that. 1696 01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,639 Speaker 1: That's saying you're not good enough to play. But we 1697 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: we still stink on offense, but we're so bad that 1698 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:42,200 Speaker 1: you would make us worse. Yeah, and that's what That's 1699 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:46,000 Speaker 1: what they're saying. And their quarterback Dylan Morris went thirty 1700 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 1: seven for two ninety three and a touchdown, but these 1701 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:53,080 Speaker 1: were largely empty points because they didn't score until the 1702 01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, right like, there was no I mean, and 1703 01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 1: at that point in time, Michigan had started rote aiding 1704 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,720 Speaker 1: people in and and all of that. So it was 1705 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:12,160 Speaker 1: not a it was not a very fruitful offensive performance. 1706 01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:16,639 Speaker 1: So do you think that this puts John Donovan, their 1707 01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,640 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, in jeopardy of being fired depending on what 1708 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:27,800 Speaker 1: happens this week against UM against Arkansas State, Or do 1709 01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 1: you think it puts Jimmy Lake in danger? Well, if 1710 01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:36,800 Speaker 1: Clay Hilton can get fired after two games, then why 1711 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:40,120 Speaker 1: can't the only person doing worse than him get fired 1712 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,920 Speaker 1: after two games? And that's John Donovan. They were straight 1713 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:46,160 Speaker 1: up talking about it during the broadcast, during a national 1714 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,960 Speaker 1: broadcast on Basic Cable, they would put the camera on 1715 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:57,280 Speaker 1: John Donovan and be like, well, he's had struggles. That 1716 01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,760 Speaker 1: is outrageous though, I mean, I mean, if you really 1717 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,240 Speaker 1: think about it, that is outrageous where you're just like, 1718 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,360 Speaker 1: are you like you just you're just gonna talk about 1719 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 1: that all on national TV and everything, right, and so, 1720 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,559 Speaker 1: so here's my question. You've got Sean McGrew, who is 1721 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 1: a senior, a senior. Okay, he has been on this 1722 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,880 Speaker 1: team since twenty six team. He's not just a senior. 1723 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:27,040 Speaker 1: He is a super duper senior, and you're not playing 1724 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:31,040 Speaker 1: him the California Gatorade Player of the Year who actually 1725 01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,960 Speaker 1: showed quite a bit of promise last year. He might 1726 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,800 Speaker 1: not be huge in stature, but he is quick. He 1727 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 1: can do stuff in in in space. Um, you saw 1728 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 1: how Christian McCaffrey was used in the passing game. There's 1729 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,040 Speaker 1: no reason that you can't find a way to get 1730 01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:49,160 Speaker 1: him touches out of the backfield. Pleasant at least has 1731 01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 1: provided a change of pace. Um, like, I just not 1732 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,640 Speaker 1: playing those guys. This is how you lose the team 1733 01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 1: by only sticking with a few players and those players 1734 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:04,880 Speaker 1: being terrible or or those players are going to get 1735 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 1: together and be like, we're actually really good football players. 1736 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,240 Speaker 1: We've had plenty of success. The only difference here is 1737 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 1: one guy. Yeah, well, actually it's more than one because 1738 01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:21,280 Speaker 1: they have Yeah, it's actually more than one because they 1739 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,559 Speaker 1: have been running this offense under Jimmy Lake the way 1740 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,800 Speaker 1: that they're trying to do it. But but also I 1741 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,559 Speaker 1: mean Chris Peterson's last year, the offense struggle to you know, 1742 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 1: trying to play this brand of football. So now the 1743 01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:40,240 Speaker 1: question is do they abandon what they've been doing in 1744 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,240 Speaker 1: terms of lining up with a fullback liketent of the 1745 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,559 Speaker 1: time or do you think that they, you know, are like, Nope, 1746 01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,280 Speaker 1: let's just fix it and keep doing what we're doing. 1747 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you gotta. I think I 1748 01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,719 Speaker 1: think it's probably if you keep on in your players, 1749 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:05,439 Speaker 1: keep hammering the rock, you'll break through. You undercut your 1750 01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:08,800 Speaker 1: message by switching up on them. Yeah, so I think 1751 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 1: you've got to roll this out one more time, see 1752 01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,160 Speaker 1: if you can put some points on the board. That's 1753 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,400 Speaker 1: the only way to go here for me, but to 1754 01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:21,559 Speaker 1: play everybody on your roster. Richard Newton quote today from 1755 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,800 Speaker 1: Scott Eklin. When asked what he could do better, his 1756 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 1: response was, quote, make something out of nothing. I can 1757 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 1: do that better. Oh that's brutal. So they're giving him nothing. 1758 01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 1: He's he's he's admitting that they have provided not a 1759 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:50,120 Speaker 1: single running lane for him. So he basically said, I 1760 01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:54,639 Speaker 1: could be more perfect. That's a rough that's rough on him, 1761 01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:59,040 Speaker 1: that's rough on the whole team. Yeah, yep, that is wild. 1762 01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,920 Speaker 1: All right. Onto what became the game of the week 1763 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:09,599 Speaker 1: and the Pack twelves biggest nonconference win since Oregon beat 1764 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,880 Speaker 1: Florida State in the Rose Bowl to go to the 1765 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:24,479 Speaker 1: National Championship. The They beat Ohio State thirty five, and 1766 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:29,840 Speaker 1: it was a dominating performance. Zero zero after the first quarter, 1767 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 1: Ducks were up fourteen seven at halftime, could have been 1768 01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty one seven, and then it was twenty eight fourteen 1769 01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the four at the end of 1770 01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,599 Speaker 1: the third quarter, and then um Ohio State outscored Oregon 1771 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of fourteen and seven to bring 1772 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,479 Speaker 1: it back to thirty five to twenty eight. What was 1773 01:42:48,560 --> 01:42:51,760 Speaker 1: your assessment of the game. It's incredible that we're talking 1774 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,599 Speaker 1: about this this late in the show. If Clay Helton 1775 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,360 Speaker 1: had him been fired, we find it in forty five 1776 01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,320 Speaker 1: minutes right off the bat on this game, I know 1777 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. It was it was I don't know. 1778 01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,320 Speaker 1: The the environment was electric. I thought both teams played 1779 01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 1: pretty well. I was very impressed at Oregon's ability after 1780 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,160 Speaker 1: the first drive to take away Ryan Williams in the 1781 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,519 Speaker 1: Running game, because we've heard so much about Ryan Day's 1782 01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:19,599 Speaker 1: ability to um to scheme his running backs um into 1783 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 1: having great opportunities to chew up a bunch of yards. 1784 01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,519 Speaker 1: I thought that Anthony Brown played within himself, and then 1785 01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,400 Speaker 1: I thought he took some things into his own hands. 1786 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,320 Speaker 1: And I made me laughter in the game when I 1787 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 1: was seeing tweets from Maurice Clarette about how a quarter 1788 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks should disrespect your defense so much that they'll 1789 01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,559 Speaker 1: run into the teeth of it, right, That's what Maurice 1790 01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:40,760 Speaker 1: Clarett was saying, And then that's that's what we saw 1791 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,000 Speaker 1: anthy Round do a few times, as he wasn't afraid 1792 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,720 Speaker 1: to just run right up the middle and run high 1793 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 1: and take on hits and everything like that, and and 1794 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:50,160 Speaker 1: he did a good job to keep in the chains moving. 1795 01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:53,759 Speaker 1: The running game was fantastic. Um, your sophomore right tackle 1796 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 1: was an absolute monster, but in a finesse way. I 1797 01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,120 Speaker 1: mean the way he would open those holes and get 1798 01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,799 Speaker 1: guys turned and and I thought that, you know, everybody's 1799 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 1: talking about c J. Verdell going off, but he wasn't 1800 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 1: really touched a whole lot. Yeah, yeah, dude. On on 1801 01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,719 Speaker 1: three of the touchdowns. I don't know if anybody touched 1802 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:15,000 Speaker 1: him right right. And they kept going left in the 1803 01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,680 Speaker 1: first half, which was cracking me up because they were 1804 01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 1: just gash in Ohio State to the short side of 1805 01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,120 Speaker 1: the field, off the hash over and over and over again. 1806 01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,479 Speaker 1: It is amazing. It was. It was truly amazing because 1807 01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:32,559 Speaker 1: I know that um, Ohio States young, very young on defense, 1808 01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:36,160 Speaker 1: but they got some serious dudes, and so it was 1809 01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,360 Speaker 1: kind of surprised to see Oregon kind of get whatever 1810 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,320 Speaker 1: they want. And then, Um, when it felt like the 1811 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,360 Speaker 1: momentum was firmly in Ohio State's favor late in that game, 1812 01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,640 Speaker 1: for Oregon to come up with a defensive stop to 1813 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden start to be able to rush 1814 01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 1: the passer when they hadn't done a good job of 1815 01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:53,160 Speaker 1: that all game long. Um, that was big time. That 1816 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,480 Speaker 1: was that was conditioning, that was scheming, That was adjustments. 1817 01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 1: Not a lot of coaches do a good job of 1818 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:04,040 Speaker 1: adjusting from ahead. Yes, and and and you know, I think, uh, 1819 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,839 Speaker 1: I just I think Oregon deserves all of the credit 1820 01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,880 Speaker 1: in the world for what they did against Ohio State 1821 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,800 Speaker 1: because I I looked at that Ohio State team and 1822 01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,040 Speaker 1: I still see a team that finishes in the top 1823 01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,960 Speaker 1: five at the end of the year. They might have 1824 01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,120 Speaker 1: a challenge from Penn State, but other than that, they're 1825 01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,080 Speaker 1: one of the best team football teams I've seen this year. 1826 01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:26,360 Speaker 1: So they Yes, yeah, especially on the offensive end, this 1827 01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:30,800 Speaker 1: is a team that is dynamic. And they ended up 1828 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,680 Speaker 1: passing for four hundred and eighty four yards. But it 1829 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,679 Speaker 1: was weird. It didn't feel like that, right if that's 1830 01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,639 Speaker 1: a lot of yards, but that's because they literally could 1831 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:45,040 Speaker 1: not run the football they had. Um oh wait, actually 1832 01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,360 Speaker 1: they ended up running for a hundred and twenty eight yards, 1833 01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,920 Speaker 1: but it didn't it was It's weird, it didn't. It 1834 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,960 Speaker 1: felt like that they were in a in a headlock 1835 01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:57,360 Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter, and then that had lock loosened 1836 01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,400 Speaker 1: up and it felt like, oh, well, hold up that 1837 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,759 Speaker 1: this team was, you know, kind of figuring Oregon's defense 1838 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:10,240 Speaker 1: out a little bit. And I was more impressed with 1839 01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:13,559 Speaker 1: the physical play, Like Oregon just literally lined up and 1840 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,479 Speaker 1: was like, we're going to run you over, and they did. 1841 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,240 Speaker 1: They had thirty eight carries two hundred and sixty nine yards. 1842 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 1: And that's the thing that absolutely stunned Ohio State fans, 1843 01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,800 Speaker 1: aside from their lack of adjustments on defense, that just 1844 01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,000 Speaker 1: Oregon kept running the same play out of window dressing. 1845 01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 1: And window dressing is when you run the same play 1846 01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:38,080 Speaker 1: but with a different but with either a different personnel 1847 01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 1: or you motioned to it and then it ends up 1848 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,760 Speaker 1: the same way. And they just did it three times 1849 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,400 Speaker 1: in a row, and they scored three times on the 1850 01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:48,960 Speaker 1: pitch to the short or a handoff to the short 1851 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,800 Speaker 1: side of the field. And that's what made Ohio State 1852 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:57,559 Speaker 1: fans just absolutely lose their minds. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 1853 01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,840 Speaker 1: I I saw how far you dropped Ohio State in 1854 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 1: your in your poll, and I maybe that's you're wanting 1855 01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,360 Speaker 1: them earn them to earn it back or whatever, but 1856 01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:09,639 Speaker 1: I I think that I dropped them from three to eight. 1857 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:14,639 Speaker 1: I mean because the other teams that they that we're playing, 1858 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,080 Speaker 1: they won the games that were in front of them, 1859 01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,280 Speaker 1: and some of them were against good teams. Yeah, I 1860 01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,760 Speaker 1: just they look better than Oklahoma and me slightly better 1861 01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,840 Speaker 1: than Oklahoma. Um, I think they would win at the head. 1862 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:31,800 Speaker 1: I think that that's fair, that's that's not an unreasonable take. Now, though, 1863 01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:37,479 Speaker 1: we have a really good interview from Oregon's coach, Mario 1864 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 1: Cristo ball. I got a chance to interview him and 1865 01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,080 Speaker 1: here is what he had to say. Coach, thanks for 1866 01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:48,680 Speaker 1: coming on the show. Appreciate having me. Yeah, and if 1867 01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:51,400 Speaker 1: you notice, I put the in front of the University 1868 01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,719 Speaker 1: of Oregon right right right now, because when you defeated 1869 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 1: team you, uh, you get to take everything that they 1870 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,680 Speaker 1: have at that point in time. But you, guys just 1871 01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,080 Speaker 1: beat the Ohio State buck Eyes. You went into the shoe. 1872 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,519 Speaker 1: There were so many people that were doubting you. What 1873 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,360 Speaker 1: was that like in terms of where there was so 1874 01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,160 Speaker 1: much doubt outside of the world, But I know from 1875 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,760 Speaker 1: talking to you and guys on the team that there 1876 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,679 Speaker 1: was no doubt from you guys. I gotta be honest 1877 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:25,280 Speaker 1: with the George. I it was irrelevant I couldn't tell 1878 01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,640 Speaker 1: you who was force against us, doubted us had I 1879 01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,880 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. I couldn't. I just you know, we 1880 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,800 Speaker 1: block out everything, and just I think if you're paying 1881 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,040 Speaker 1: attention to that stuff, number one, you must not be 1882 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:42,519 Speaker 1: doing your job because you're looking at stuff instead of 1883 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:47,640 Speaker 1: looking at film and preparing cards and preparing practice. Right. Um, 1884 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,240 Speaker 1: So I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you of 1885 01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,720 Speaker 1: if it had any kind of significance at all. I 1886 01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:54,800 Speaker 1: know that our guys knew that they were in for 1887 01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,000 Speaker 1: a dog fight. I knew that they were in for 1888 01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 1: a very physical battle, and they knew that every play 1889 01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,000 Speaker 1: was going to have to demand that they play harder 1890 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,639 Speaker 1: and longer and more discipline than the opponent. And they 1891 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,519 Speaker 1: made their practice preparation the game reality. Yeah, how do 1892 01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 1: you keep your team locked in and insulated like that 1893 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,160 Speaker 1: when they are on social media? You know, and they're 1894 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, seventeen to twenty three really, so how do 1895 01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:27,920 Speaker 1: you keep them locked in and mentally you know, focused 1896 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,240 Speaker 1: when there are so many distractions and outside noise. Well, 1897 01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:33,920 Speaker 1: I think you have to be honest with yourself and 1898 01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,320 Speaker 1: know that that they are going to hear some of it. 1899 01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,600 Speaker 1: So you do your best, always educate them on the 1900 01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,479 Speaker 1: reality of what's going on out there, because I mean, 1901 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:46,639 Speaker 1: it's really it's really simple. I mean, if if there 1902 01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,160 Speaker 1: if people aren't with you at five am when you're 1903 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:53,280 Speaker 1: grinding in the training room, god forbid, on the surgery table, 1904 01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:56,600 Speaker 1: in the tough places on the road, on the workouts, 1905 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:59,040 Speaker 1: in practice at night, washing film, if they're not part 1906 01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:03,559 Speaker 1: of that process, then their their words should not ever 1907 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,280 Speaker 1: count in the process. You know, it's it really comes 1908 01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,080 Speaker 1: out of being as simple as that, um And then 1909 01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:12,360 Speaker 1: we have a way of you know, just making sure 1910 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,960 Speaker 1: that the culture understands what the culture needs to be 1911 01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,160 Speaker 1: and for the senior leadership and not only the seniors, 1912 01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:20,559 Speaker 1: but the younger guys too, to buy in and to 1913 01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:24,240 Speaker 1: hammer that home, to fully understand that there is no crowd, 1914 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,439 Speaker 1: no external factor that could alter the results of the 1915 01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:30,160 Speaker 1: football game. That I was gonna completely be in our hands. 1916 01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:33,000 Speaker 1: They bought into it, took it, and ran with it. 1917 01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:34,960 Speaker 1: And now we just got to take that process and 1918 01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,759 Speaker 1: keep getting better. Yeah, how do you keep the team 1919 01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,440 Speaker 1: from having a let down? Because we we see sometimes 1920 01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:47,240 Speaker 1: after big emotional victory, sometimes teams aren't able to refocus 1921 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,960 Speaker 1: in and lock in. So what what's the message to 1922 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:54,240 Speaker 1: the team after the game to enjoy the win, but 1923 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:57,719 Speaker 1: also you know, keep you know, because they gotta stay 1924 01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:01,320 Speaker 1: locked locked in for it at least, you know, ten 1925 01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:06,160 Speaker 1: or eleven more consecutive games. Yeah, well you just give them. 1926 01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:09,080 Speaker 1: The reality of it is that this game is not 1927 01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna mean much if you can't sustain that level of intensity. 1928 01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,439 Speaker 1: It just doesn't. I mean, it's call it what it is. 1929 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,320 Speaker 1: In college football. How many saturdays do we need to 1930 01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:22,960 Speaker 1: watch and watch underdogs take down heavy favorites for us 1931 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:28,000 Speaker 1: to understand that unless you are giving your one percent effort, 1932 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,240 Speaker 1: mental focus and intensity on every game that you can, 1933 01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,040 Speaker 1: and we'll get beat eventually. So that's part of it. 1934 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,639 Speaker 1: The other part of it is, too, is making sure 1935 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,320 Speaker 1: that we practice a certain way and push and grind 1936 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,679 Speaker 1: to a certain level and and you know, but there's 1937 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:44,320 Speaker 1: there's just no going back. I mean, we our processes 1938 01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:48,240 Speaker 1: are regimented, they're demanding, they're gonna completely exhaust you. And 1939 01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,719 Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday has got to feel like you're playing 1940 01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,960 Speaker 1: a game on those days, because that's the secret sauce 1941 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 1: to what we do. There's enough validation there over the 1942 01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,320 Speaker 1: last you know, three and a half years to show 1943 01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,360 Speaker 1: that that's what works for us. So it's all in 1944 01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,000 Speaker 1: or all out. You can't you can't test the temperature 1945 01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,040 Speaker 1: with your tippy toes. You gotta just jump in and 1946 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:12,840 Speaker 1: you gotta go. You made a comment um last last 1947 01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,880 Speaker 1: week about Cavan Thibodeaux being being out. You said, we're 1948 01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:21,000 Speaker 1: opening honest with injuries. We don't have fake anybody. We're 1949 01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,160 Speaker 1: trying to get him ready to play and we're gonna 1950 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:28,040 Speaker 1: see closer to game game time. Why that mentality when 1951 01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,680 Speaker 1: it's not the NFL, when you don't have to disclose 1952 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,439 Speaker 1: your your injuries, but you are typically pretty candid about 1953 01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, either this guy's out or he's not out, 1954 01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,439 Speaker 1: you know, and he'll either be out for a while 1955 01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,679 Speaker 1: or won't. And just like today, you said that justin 1956 01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,679 Speaker 1: Flow was gonna be out for it, that his injury 1957 01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:49,479 Speaker 1: was significant. So why why that approach as opposed to 1958 01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,519 Speaker 1: being koit like some of the other teams do. Well, 1959 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean to me, it's if you feel like you 1960 01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 1: can gain an advantage, you you play whatever card you 1961 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,519 Speaker 1: need to, and when you don't, you don't need to. 1962 01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,120 Speaker 1: Like going into that game, there was no advantage in 1963 01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:07,680 Speaker 1: in um and putting out information regarding our injuries to 1964 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:11,760 Speaker 1: allow for any game plan alterations, right, And so if 1965 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:15,000 Speaker 1: it's best for our team to keep it confidential, we do. 1966 01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,799 Speaker 1: And if it's time to get something out there, because 1967 01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:20,519 Speaker 1: it's going to get out there eventually, or it's time 1968 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,120 Speaker 1: to get it out there, we do so also, I 1969 01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,640 Speaker 1: just honestly, I don't it's not like a complete like 1970 01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,800 Speaker 1: double O seven operation. We just do whatever is best 1971 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,120 Speaker 1: for the team, and whatever is best for the team, 1972 01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,280 Speaker 1: we're just we're gonna roll with and um, you know, 1973 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,880 Speaker 1: we keep it pretty simple. Yeah. And there was something 1974 01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:41,240 Speaker 1: else that that that happened after the game, and it 1975 01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:46,479 Speaker 1: was you know, you made sure that your team you 1976 01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:50,320 Speaker 1: said nothing on the fifty, nothing on the logo, respect 1977 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:54,320 Speaker 1: your opponent. Uh. You see so many times where I 1978 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,360 Speaker 1: mean even when Baker Mayfield went out there, he stopped 1979 01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 1: the flag in the middle of the Ohio State. Oh. 1980 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,760 Speaker 1: And I remember when I was at Oregon, we got 1981 01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,840 Speaker 1: in a fight with USC because they were doing all 1982 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,599 Speaker 1: the type of stuff on our logo. Why did you 1983 01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,720 Speaker 1: take that approach with with your team and can you 1984 01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:15,559 Speaker 1: explain to people why that's important? Well, to me, football 1985 01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:18,840 Speaker 1: is a privilege, you know, it's we're not entitled to 1986 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,439 Speaker 1: playing football. And I think as coaches we have to 1987 01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,680 Speaker 1: be protectors of the game, and we have to be 1988 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,479 Speaker 1: great teachers and mentors. And I don't judge anybody that 1989 01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,679 Speaker 1: does it any other I really don't. I don't believe 1990 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:31,760 Speaker 1: in judgment. I mean, I just we just do what 1991 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,920 Speaker 1: we believe in. But I think it's it's important to 1992 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,920 Speaker 1: teach our players that that has nothing to do with winning. 1993 01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:41,120 Speaker 1: You're losing, and that you're wining with the class. When 1994 01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,520 Speaker 1: you don't win, you lose the class. We don't even 1995 01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, like even when we practice on something. We've 1996 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:50,840 Speaker 1: practiced a Lafayette over there in um, We've practically at 1997 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,560 Speaker 1: different places all over the country, and whether it be 1998 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,520 Speaker 1: high school field, whether it be a college field, we 1999 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:59,880 Speaker 1: never do anything on the logo. We just don't. That's 2000 01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:04,360 Speaker 1: his pride. That's that somebody's you know, that what that represents, 2001 01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,520 Speaker 1: what they're about, and we believe in respecting it and 2002 01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:08,840 Speaker 1: we expect for us to be respected and returned. So 2003 01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,000 Speaker 1: it's it's as simple as that. My high school coach, 2004 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,440 Speaker 1: he was there in the stands. I mean, he's he's 2005 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:15,440 Speaker 1: we we do a lot of things that we do 2006 01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,920 Speaker 1: here because of what he taught cooked myrble and I 2007 01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:19,800 Speaker 1: back in the day were high school is back at 2008 01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 1: Columbus ironically Columbus High School in Miami. Um, and that's 2009 01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 1: what we do. Brotherhood's Uh, we just again just be 2010 01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:28,880 Speaker 1: real right do it? What do? What you would do 2011 01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 1: with your very own kids, how you would teach you, 2012 01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:35,960 Speaker 1: how we would love it. Uh. Your quarterback Anthony Brown, Uh, 2013 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:39,480 Speaker 1: he made a like from the way he played in 2014 01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:43,240 Speaker 1: Fresno State to the way he played at Ohio State, 2015 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,120 Speaker 1: like it was night and day. He was way better. 2016 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,720 Speaker 1: What what went into that week of you know, him 2017 01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:54,360 Speaker 1: getting confidence as first started Oregon into turning into a 2018 01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:58,440 Speaker 1: huge win like that. Well, I think the first thing 2019 01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,600 Speaker 1: is the supporting cat asked everybody elevated their level of play. 2020 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it tas you always look at the 2021 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: quarterback when it doesn't go like you wanted to go. 2022 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:08,560 Speaker 1: But a lot of things going to that man, those 2023 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,600 Speaker 1: are eleving pieces. And you know, George, I mean it's 2024 01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,840 Speaker 1: the football. Offensive football is different than defensive football because 2025 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:18,400 Speaker 1: on the defensive football there could be plays where you know, 2026 01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:20,400 Speaker 1: ten guys go the wrong way, but if one guy 2027 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:22,840 Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback and Zack bumbles a guy and 2028 01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:26,240 Speaker 1: you can go for seven, it seems great. Well, an 2029 01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,920 Speaker 1: offense man, one guy going the wrong way could lead 2030 01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:31,880 Speaker 1: to just that happening to you. So I think the 2031 01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:34,760 Speaker 1: pocket was better. The running game got rolling, first down 2032 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:38,080 Speaker 1: efficiency was off the charts, receivers made plays about running 2033 01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,680 Speaker 1: was excellent. Protection was really really physical and good. And 2034 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,680 Speaker 1: and he ran the ball too, you know, and he's 2035 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,320 Speaker 1: he's a big, physical guy, and that gets him going also. 2036 01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,920 Speaker 1: So all those factors came into play. And the bottom 2037 01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:52,080 Speaker 1: line is Anthony's a very poise uh the young man. 2038 01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,040 Speaker 1: And he's not a good leader. He's an excellent leader. 2039 01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,200 Speaker 1: And he continues to grow as one. And and he 2040 01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,600 Speaker 1: knows man because I'm hard, you know, I really am. 2041 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm difficult, and I'm really you know, I'm demanding. And 2042 01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:08,360 Speaker 1: and I appreciate him just continuing just to enhance the 2043 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,600 Speaker 1: culture and work hard at getting others to understand the culture. 2044 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,960 Speaker 1: He's been phenomenal, and it all just came to fruition 2045 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,680 Speaker 1: all his effort, all his work. He's been to a 2046 01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,960 Speaker 1: lot in his career. This was a tremendous moment for him. 2047 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:23,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's just the beginning. I think his 2048 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:26,640 Speaker 1: best footballs ahead of him. Final final question for your 2049 01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:30,600 Speaker 1: coach is, uh, there was a guy who had dealt 2050 01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:34,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of injuries and then what was got 2051 01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,640 Speaker 1: two extra years? I think he's like a fifth year 2052 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,240 Speaker 1: sophomore right now and as Cam McCormick, and then he 2053 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:44,440 Speaker 1: was injured yesterday. Hey, well what's his status? And also 2054 01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:48,320 Speaker 1: like how I guess heartbreaking is that for him to 2055 01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:52,040 Speaker 1: work so hard and continuously. You know, he's like sisiphus 2056 01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:53,920 Speaker 1: put pushing a rock up the hill. As soon as 2057 01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:57,120 Speaker 1: the gig gets it up, it rolls back down. Well, 2058 01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,200 Speaker 1: the first thing is he started the game and he 2059 01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,839 Speaker 1: was an instant in packed. I don't think people realize 2060 01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,440 Speaker 1: how good of a player Cam McCormick is. I mean, 2061 01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:08,040 Speaker 1: this guy is a real deal football player. He'll slug 2062 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:09,800 Speaker 1: it out at the line of scrimmage, will stretch the 2063 01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:13,000 Speaker 1: field and catching the ball right away. Play one, you know, 2064 01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:14,960 Speaker 1: he comes around on one of those you know, wide 2065 01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,880 Speaker 1: zone man skis and he just cleans out the middle 2066 01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:21,000 Speaker 1: of the defense. So as he latched into with Alex 2067 01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:22,840 Speaker 1: forsythe and drove the mic out of the way from 2068 01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,600 Speaker 1: a eleven yard game by c J. And then later 2069 01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:28,360 Speaker 1: on he's the one that sparks that drive with his 2070 01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,200 Speaker 1: his catch, his reception on third down which ended up 2071 01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,920 Speaker 1: being where he got injured. Um. So it's a heartbreaking 2072 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,640 Speaker 1: because it's a significant injury and he'll bounce back from 2073 01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 1: it eventually. It's gonna be a while, but it's a 2074 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,160 Speaker 1: significant injury. Um. Our thoughts and prayers are with him 2075 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,080 Speaker 1: and his family. But he's gonna be all right. He's 2076 01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna bounce back. Uh. It might take him some time though, 2077 01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,720 Speaker 1: and um, but just an awesome young man, an awesome player, 2078 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:55,800 Speaker 1: and certainly a real deal Duck. Yeah. Oh absolutely. He 2079 01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:58,400 Speaker 1: is a fan favorite and one of mine as well, 2080 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,200 Speaker 1: who I root for and hopefully to ends well for 2081 01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:04,320 Speaker 1: for him with his career. Um, you guys, he's coach 2082 01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,480 Speaker 1: Mario Kris the ball head coach of the Oregon Ducks, 2083 01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:12,040 Speaker 1: and uh, coach much success this weekend and uh for 2084 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:16,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. I appreciate you go Ducks. 2085 01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,360 Speaker 1: Want to know, So what do you think about what 2086 01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:23,600 Speaker 1: christ the ball had to say. I mean, he feels 2087 01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,920 Speaker 1: like he's kind of in the zone right. It was 2088 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:29,959 Speaker 1: interesting when he talked about not listening to um outside 2089 01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:31,760 Speaker 1: noise and having to train your team up on the 2090 01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:34,240 Speaker 1: if they're not if they're not with you, you know, 2091 01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 1: if they're not in the kitchen with you cooking dinner, 2092 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,040 Speaker 1: then they don't have a right to to to comment 2093 01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,760 Speaker 1: on UM the process that went in into the final product. 2094 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,520 Speaker 1: And now obviously we do have the right to comment 2095 01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,640 Speaker 1: onto the process that went in the final product, but 2096 01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 1: they shouldn't. They shouldn't be taking outside voices UM as 2097 01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,200 Speaker 1: seriously as the ones they take inside. That That's just 2098 01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:57,320 Speaker 1: the way it is. I thought that was a good 2099 01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:00,840 Speaker 1: way to put it. Yeah, And you're gonna have to 2100 02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:02,800 Speaker 1: do that because now more and more people are just 2101 02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about you. And if you're one of 2102 02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:07,879 Speaker 1: those people that kind of lets your you know, you're 2103 02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:13,720 Speaker 1: looking for external motivation, extrinsic motivation instead of instead of 2104 02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:16,520 Speaker 1: internal and buying into the process and everything like that. 2105 02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:20,000 Speaker 1: If you need hate, then sometimes you're gonna struggle as 2106 02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:26,839 Speaker 1: the favorite. Yeah. So do you think that that Oregon 2107 02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:34,880 Speaker 1: is now a national championship contender, UM contender to be 2108 02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:39,040 Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff? I don't think anybody. I 2109 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:44,400 Speaker 1: don't see anybody right now on Alabama's level. Oh whoa 2110 02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:49,360 Speaker 1: bad take, Ralph bad take? Okay, who's your number one? Alabama? 2111 02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:52,920 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But that But the thing that 2112 02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:55,400 Speaker 1: I think is important to note is that this is 2113 02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,400 Speaker 1: not Alabama's team from last year. Even Nick Saban has 2114 02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:02,680 Speaker 1: said it. Last team. Last year's team was invincible. That's 2115 02:01:02,680 --> 02:01:05,560 Speaker 1: one of the all time greatest team college football teams 2116 02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:08,080 Speaker 1: that's ever been put to put together. And I think 2117 02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:11,320 Speaker 1: that this year feels more like the year that they 2118 02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,560 Speaker 1: got absolutely housed by Clemson on the way to Clemson's 2119 02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,560 Speaker 1: national championship. So I'm not saying that they're gonna lose, 2120 02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:21,720 Speaker 1: but this does feel a lot more like that than 2121 02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,720 Speaker 1: the previous season. This team has the ability to win 2122 02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:31,280 Speaker 1: at to thirty eight game. Bryce Young is Bryce Young 2123 02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,960 Speaker 1: is the most talented passer they have had in the 2124 02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:38,320 Speaker 1: last five years, and then includes three starting NFL quarterbacks. 2125 02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:45,480 Speaker 1: That's wild though, right, Yeah, that's true. It's not even controversial. 2126 02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Bryce Young is the best passer they've had in the 2127 02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:52,800 Speaker 1: last five years, which includes three NFL starting quarterbacks. Now, 2128 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:54,680 Speaker 1: is he the best decision maker? Is he the best 2129 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,920 Speaker 1: under We're gonna find all that stuff out. But as 2130 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:59,720 Speaker 1: far as just like regular arm talent. I have seen 2131 02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Bryce Young do stuff with a football, and it just 2132 02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I've seen him put a curve on I've seen I've 2133 02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,160 Speaker 1: seen him, uh like throw a change up to somebody 2134 02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:09,800 Speaker 1: running and uh and and out on the sideline that 2135 02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,320 Speaker 1: dropped down just perfect. And I saw him doing that 2136 02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:14,680 Speaker 1: when he's a sophomore in the spring of his sophomore 2137 02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:16,440 Speaker 1: year in high school. And then I got to see 2138 02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:21,440 Speaker 1: him up close against uh centennial team that once um held, 2139 02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:26,360 Speaker 1: a centennial team that once held uh. What's Michael Irvin's 2140 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:30,960 Speaker 1: school out of Florida, Central cat Is it Central Catholic 2141 02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:33,360 Speaker 1: or is it Glades or I am g no, No, 2142 02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,240 Speaker 1: it's one of those. It's it's one of those private 2143 02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Catholic schools. I saw them hold them to six points. 2144 02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:39,360 Speaker 1: I saw them do the same thing to Bishop Gorman 2145 02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:43,080 Speaker 1: like and and and I watched Bryce Young come in 2146 02:02:43,120 --> 02:02:46,000 Speaker 1: and dropped seventy four on that team's head, on the 2147 02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,280 Speaker 1: best defensive scheming team in all of Arizona. They put 2148 02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:52,560 Speaker 1: seventy four on him. And so I don't I mean, 2149 02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:56,000 Speaker 1: I I think that this team has the ability to 2150 02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,480 Speaker 1: put a ton of points on the board at any 2151 02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:02,160 Speaker 1: given time. They're obviously talented at running back. The recruiting 2152 02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:05,080 Speaker 1: that they've done on the offensive line is fantastic, even 2153 02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:07,040 Speaker 1: if there's a defensive lapse here and there, which we 2154 02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:11,800 Speaker 1: haven't even seen yet. UM, I think Alabama's uh. I 2155 02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 1: think Alabama is head and shoulders above everybody else, UM. 2156 02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:17,720 Speaker 1: And I think that everybody else is just kind of 2157 02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:20,360 Speaker 1: competing for a spot to take a shot at them. 2158 02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:24,120 Speaker 1: And I think that Oregon is one of those teams. Now, 2159 02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with you that U c l 2160 02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:29,440 Speaker 1: A Is one of those teams UM at this point 2161 02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:31,040 Speaker 1: in time, but I do. I do think Oregon is 2162 02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:34,920 Speaker 1: up there. Yeah, and we will come to find more 2163 02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,520 Speaker 1: out about U c l A. I don't think they're 2164 02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:40,200 Speaker 1: a national championship caliber team, but I think that they 2165 02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:43,920 Speaker 1: are definitely a team that can. I expect them to 2166 02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:47,760 Speaker 1: win to pack twelveth South and I and I had 2167 02:03:47,840 --> 02:03:50,360 Speaker 1: them in coming into the season as a nine in 2168 02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:55,360 Speaker 1: three football team. I still stand by that. UM. I 2169 02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:57,800 Speaker 1: think they may drop a couple of close games, but 2170 02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,000 Speaker 1: now I've actually upped them from a nine in three 2171 02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:03,640 Speaker 1: team to attend in two team UM, So I don't 2172 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,080 Speaker 1: think they'll go under undefeated. But this is a good 2173 02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:07,920 Speaker 1: football team and they are gonna put a lot of 2174 02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,160 Speaker 1: pressure on people, and they're probably gonna be playing in 2175 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:13,680 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. And Oregon is going to have a 2176 02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:16,160 Speaker 1: shot to go to the College Football Playoff, which is 2177 02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:17,600 Speaker 1: the reason why U c. L a Would be in 2178 02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl because I expect him to play them 2179 02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:25,440 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve Championship. Yeah. All right, um, nowadays, 2180 02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:30,960 Speaker 1: time for our Week three picks and our Week three predictions. 2181 02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:35,920 Speaker 1: And I'm excited about that. Um. I am absolutely crushing it, 2182 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,520 Speaker 1: So of course I'm excited. UM. So I guess we 2183 02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:43,680 Speaker 1: will start with the first game up this week in 2184 02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:49,560 Speaker 1: chronological order. Um. We we don't have any Friday games 2185 02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:56,480 Speaker 1: this week, thank god. But the first game is why 2186 02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:59,840 Speaker 1: don't they put him in in order here? Good god? Man? 2187 02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's Colorado, right, Colorado hosting Minnesota. 2188 02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Kicks off, Yes it yes, it does at ten am 2189 02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Pacific time, eleven am Mountain time. And what's the line 2190 02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:17,360 Speaker 1: on that? Colorado is currently favored by two points? Okay, 2191 02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Colorado by two points. The over under is forty eight 2192 02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:30,600 Speaker 1: and a half. So okay, I will take Colorado basically 2193 02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:32,520 Speaker 1: to win because there's no I mean, I guess they 2194 02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:38,160 Speaker 1: could win by one point, but Colorado. But Colorado minus 2195 02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:43,280 Speaker 1: two and I'm gonna take the under. Okay. Um, this 2196 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:48,720 Speaker 1: is the PJ Fleck preview for for USC Yeah. I know, 2197 02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:53,320 Speaker 1: we we we didn't mention him. Um, but he's the 2198 02:05:53,400 --> 02:05:56,520 Speaker 1: kind of guy that might would want that job, and 2199 02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:00,480 Speaker 1: he generates a ton of excitement. He is a dogged cruider. 2200 02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you should see some of the talent he's 2201 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:07,720 Speaker 1: getting to go play at Minnesota right now. It's it's absurd. Um. 2202 02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:11,160 Speaker 1: He needs he needs a big season to even be 2203 02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:13,960 Speaker 1: considered because he's an exciting name. But they're not going 2204 02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:16,480 Speaker 1: to take anybody without the results. So this is a 2205 02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:19,720 Speaker 1: little p J Flex preview for the Trojans. I recommend 2206 02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:22,160 Speaker 1: tuning in see if you see, if you like what 2207 02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:25,760 Speaker 1: you see, because they run the ball. The most talented 2208 02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:28,920 Speaker 1: player on the field is going to be Minnesota's running back. Um. 2209 02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota's defense is young but fun, and I think they 2210 02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,360 Speaker 1: find a way to actually beat Colorado in this game. 2211 02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:38,640 Speaker 1: I like Colorado's development, but I have not seen enough 2212 02:06:38,680 --> 02:06:41,120 Speaker 1: from Brendan Lewis to prove that they can score probably 2213 02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,920 Speaker 1: be necessary thirty one that it would take to win 2214 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:49,800 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, all right. Next game up is the 2215 02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:54,480 Speaker 1: Idaho Vandals at Oregon State. And this is a game 2216 02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:56,400 Speaker 1: we had to make up a line for it. So 2217 02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,440 Speaker 1: what do we come up with? Twenty eight and a 2218 02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:02,960 Speaker 1: half four touchdowns plus um for Oregon State hosting the 2219 02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:08,680 Speaker 1: Idaho Vandals. I will over under atte I will take 2220 02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Oregon State and the over you have. These are these 2221 02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:17,600 Speaker 1: are games that Ralph loves to watch. He's like, oh, oh, 2222 02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:21,640 Speaker 1: let's let's see what Oregon States doing versus Idaho. And 2223 02:07:21,880 --> 02:07:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, like, I'm gonna peek in on it. 2224 02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the particularly the Oregon State offense, because 2225 02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:32,400 Speaker 1: I want to see how they're gonna comport themselves through 2226 02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. But I mean, this is 2227 02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:40,240 Speaker 1: a game that there's not a lot to be you know, 2228 02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:43,840 Speaker 1: understood or learned about a team unless they struggle. If 2229 02:07:43,880 --> 02:07:46,760 Speaker 1: they struggle, then there's a lot to be learned. But 2230 02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:50,800 Speaker 1: if they don't then and they just win and covered, 2231 02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:55,080 Speaker 1: then uh you know, because I got Oregon State plus 2232 02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:59,360 Speaker 1: the over at fifty three and twenty eight and a half. Yeah, 2233 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,560 Speaker 1: so there there's not much here. I'm gonna ride with 2234 02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:04,960 Speaker 1: you on this. I think that Oregon State moves forward 2235 02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:07,200 Speaker 1: with confidence now knowing who the quarterback is going to 2236 02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:09,720 Speaker 1: be and who some of the more preferred targets are 2237 02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,680 Speaker 1: going to be. Offensively, I like how the offensive line 2238 02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,520 Speaker 1: and Nathan Eldridge are all jelling together. I do like 2239 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:17,800 Speaker 1: watching games like this because of the amount of high 2240 02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,480 Speaker 1: school football that I cover, and this is a chance 2241 02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:22,959 Speaker 1: to see, uh, some of the medium level kids compete. 2242 02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:25,320 Speaker 1: And you're gonna be there in three years once your 2243 02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:27,680 Speaker 1: son graduates, and you're gonna know every kid at every 2244 02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,200 Speaker 1: college in in the in the West, and you're gonna 2245 02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,600 Speaker 1: have fun with some of this stuff too. Um, I'm 2246 02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm with you. The Oregon State and the over. Yeah, 2247 02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:41,360 Speaker 1: this will be interesting to to see how this shakes out, 2248 02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:45,040 Speaker 1: only because they have to put on a good performance. 2249 02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:52,120 Speaker 1: All right, Next game USC at Washington State. This is washing. 2250 02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:55,560 Speaker 1: The irony is is that this is both of their 2251 02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:59,600 Speaker 1: biggest games of the season right so far, at least, 2252 02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,160 Speaker 1: USC is favored by eight and a half. The over 2253 02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:09,680 Speaker 1: under is sixty two. I'm taking Washington State and the under. 2254 02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:13,520 Speaker 1: I think USC wins. I just think that this is 2255 02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:17,800 Speaker 1: a much closer game because of where they're playing than 2256 02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:20,800 Speaker 1: anything else, because I'm not in love with Washington State. 2257 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:23,000 Speaker 1: I think that they have some stuff going on there 2258 02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:27,440 Speaker 1: that at least they've settled on their quarterback and Jaden 2259 02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:32,120 Speaker 1: Dolora and aren't fooling around with this guarantin no nonsense, 2260 02:09:32,720 --> 02:09:37,240 Speaker 1: but at least you know, I just don't believe that 2261 02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:39,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna fire Clay Hilton on Monday and all of 2262 02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:42,879 Speaker 1: a sudden Dante Williams is gonna make some huge impact. 2263 02:09:43,080 --> 02:09:46,320 Speaker 1: But by Saturday, you have the same offensive coordinator, you 2264 02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:49,880 Speaker 1: have the same defensive coordinator. You're on the road. So 2265 02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:52,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna say, what a team is energized? How do 2266 02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:56,440 Speaker 1: you quantify energy when they're running the same scheme? Do 2267 02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:59,800 Speaker 1: they do a better job in run defense? Is this 2268 02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:02,760 Speaker 1: an offense that they've all of a sudden figure out 2269 02:10:02,760 --> 02:10:05,320 Speaker 1: how to handle. Did Stanford put enough on tape last 2270 02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:08,440 Speaker 1: week that Washington State can follow that blueprint and continue 2271 02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,360 Speaker 1: to gash the Trojans? I don't. I don't like this 2272 02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:13,280 Speaker 1: line at all for USC, and I'm with you. They 2273 02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:15,160 Speaker 1: might win, but I don't feel like they cover. And 2274 02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:17,960 Speaker 1: if they do, then maybe that starts getting them rolling 2275 02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:19,960 Speaker 1: towards some momentum, but they gotta show me first. So 2276 02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Washington State plus the eight and a half and I'll 2277 02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:28,160 Speaker 1: take the under as well. Yep. Okay. Next game up, 2278 02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:34,720 Speaker 1: you have the Sacramento State Hornets at the Golden at 2279 02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:40,160 Speaker 1: the California Golden Bears. This is another game that did 2280 02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:44,320 Speaker 1: not have a line, and um, the third game so 2281 02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:46,200 Speaker 1: far out of the four that's gonna be on the 2282 02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:49,520 Speaker 1: PAC twelve network. Yeah, we set this line at three 2283 02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:51,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns in a field goal. So cal mine is twenty 2284 02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,920 Speaker 1: four and over under at forty five. Sacramento State is 2285 02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:59,120 Speaker 1: not a good Big Sky football team, um, and Cal 2286 02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:03,520 Speaker 1: so far has shown, um that they're pretty good, but 2287 02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:05,920 Speaker 1: that they make quite a few mistakes. And there's no 2288 02:11:05,960 --> 02:11:09,160 Speaker 1: reason to think that if they don't clean up those mistakes, 2289 02:11:09,240 --> 02:11:12,040 Speaker 1: if they won't absolutely smash Sacramento State. And if they 2290 02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:16,480 Speaker 1: don't smash Sacramento State, then that's an issue, a big one. Yep. 2291 02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:25,000 Speaker 1: All right, I have cow and the over here. I'm 2292 02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:27,400 Speaker 1: riding with you on Cal and I will take the under, 2293 02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:34,200 Speaker 1: all right. Next game up Washington, Well, Arkansas State at 2294 02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:37,720 Speaker 1: Washington and I don't even know what to make out 2295 02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:40,400 Speaker 1: of this game because I thought that, oh, one of 2296 02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:44,200 Speaker 1: the games I lost last week was Michigan was Washington 2297 02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:48,680 Speaker 1: minus seven. I cannot believe I picked them to go 2298 02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:52,280 Speaker 1: into Michigan actually put up a good performance, and now 2299 02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:56,640 Speaker 1: they're favored by sixteen and a half points against Washington State. 2300 02:11:56,720 --> 02:12:00,520 Speaker 1: And I can't figure out why because Washington because Arkansas 2301 02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:04,800 Speaker 1: State has already they scored fifty points last week against 2302 02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:08,600 Speaker 1: the Memphis in their opening game, they scored forty points. 2303 02:12:09,680 --> 02:12:14,280 Speaker 1: Their defense may not be great, but Washington's offense is terrible. 2304 02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:18,160 Speaker 1: So Washington's favor by sixteen and a half points over 2305 02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:21,200 Speaker 1: under his fifty seven and a half, give me Arkansas 2306 02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:24,680 Speaker 1: State plus. Even if Washington wins, I've still taken Arkansas 2307 02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:31,040 Speaker 1: State plus sixteen and a half and I'm taking the over. Yeah. 2308 02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't know what to think of this game either. 2309 02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't if if Michigan struggled to score and only 2310 02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:40,480 Speaker 1: was able to kind of pile on points because Washington's 2311 02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,120 Speaker 1: offense wasn't moving, the ball in Montana was in the 2312 02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:45,880 Speaker 1: same place. I don't know if I see I don't 2313 02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:49,960 Speaker 1: know if I see Arkansas State cracking the code. So 2314 02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I am gonna go ahead and take the opposite of you. 2315 02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:57,000 Speaker 1: Um I'm gonna say that Washington finds some way to 2316 02:12:57,080 --> 02:13:00,200 Speaker 1: course correct and get a seventeen point win and it 2317 02:13:00,360 --> 02:13:04,640 Speaker 1: stays under the total of seven and a half. Yes, 2318 02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:07,760 Speaker 1: okay at this point I'm guessing because they look terrible. 2319 02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:14,840 Speaker 1: All right. The next game is a scary game for 2320 02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:19,600 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve that is Utah at San Diego State. Yes, 2321 02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:22,800 Speaker 1: at San Diego State, Yes, the same San Diego State 2322 02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Aztecs that have already beaten two pack twelve teams in Arizona. 2323 02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:35,880 Speaker 1: And who's did they beat they've already beat? Huh are 2324 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,080 Speaker 1: you looking for Sandy? Oh? Oh wait no, no, they 2325 02:13:39,120 --> 02:13:42,440 Speaker 1: only beat one pack twelve teams so so far. Excuse me, um, 2326 02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:46,320 Speaker 1: six and two in their last eight. But they, yes, 2327 02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:49,760 Speaker 1: just jack stomped Arizona. I think I may have been 2328 02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:56,240 Speaker 1: for foreshadowing because because they play Utah, they still play 2329 02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:01,760 Speaker 1: um oh. That's the obviously about the y U. I'm sorry, 2330 02:14:01,800 --> 02:14:06,840 Speaker 1: who's already beaten two pack twelve teams? Excuse me? Um Arizona. 2331 02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:12,080 Speaker 1: So you have San Diego State, who's a solid program, 2332 02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:15,480 Speaker 1: but you tak is favorite by eight points over under 2333 02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:22,200 Speaker 1: forty four and a half. Ralph, I gotta take San 2334 02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:26,200 Speaker 1: Diego State plus the wait no, no, it's seven seven 2335 02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:28,720 Speaker 1: and a half points. Uh, san Diego State plus seven 2336 02:14:28,720 --> 02:14:33,720 Speaker 1: and a half and the over. Were you taking them 2337 02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:39,960 Speaker 1: to win? No? You here you talked Utah's favorite by 2338 02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:42,080 Speaker 1: seven and a half points? Yeah? Are you taking San 2339 02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Diego State to win? No? I'm taking San Diego State too. 2340 02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:47,200 Speaker 1: What do you tell about I'm getting seven and a 2341 02:14:47,240 --> 02:14:50,800 Speaker 1: half points right, But I'm asking you? Could they win 2342 02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:54,560 Speaker 1: this game? Yes? They can win this game? You confused me. 2343 02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:58,200 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I want my points. Uh. Yes, 2344 02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:03,960 Speaker 1: they can win this game, and it sucks. We're done. 2345 02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Schedule them right, right, George kleievkof Mandate number one. Now 2346 02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:10,800 Speaker 1: that you got the Alliance thing out of the way, 2347 02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:15,920 Speaker 1: no more San Diego State games like that's got to 2348 02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:20,040 Speaker 1: be on the list. I mean, really, or just play 2349 02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:24,640 Speaker 1: better and win? Right? How about that? How about that 2350 02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:29,160 Speaker 1: novel con concept play better and win? If you were 2351 02:15:29,200 --> 02:15:32,040 Speaker 1: an athletic director and you look down at your phone 2352 02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:35,320 Speaker 1: and you saw San Diego States athletic director calling you 2353 02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:40,080 Speaker 1: to schedule the game, would you pick up? Who? What? What? 2354 02:15:40,080 --> 02:15:41,560 Speaker 1: What school do I play for? What? What school do 2355 02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:45,480 Speaker 1: my athletic director at? Any of them? I mean if 2356 02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm Oregon Hell, yeah, if I'm I mean, like, 2357 02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:53,840 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be USC Yes, U c l A. Yes, 2358 02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:56,480 Speaker 1: even though they've beaten U c l A, you're supposed 2359 02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:59,600 Speaker 1: to beat San Diego State, So like I would not 2360 02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:03,200 Speaker 1: be afraid, I'd be afraid if I were Arizona right now. 2361 02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, granted they got molly wapped last week. So yes, 2362 02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:10,560 Speaker 1: if I were a team that is rebuilding, if I 2363 02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:14,320 Speaker 1: were Oregon State, I'd be terrified. But you shouldn't be 2364 02:16:14,440 --> 02:16:17,280 Speaker 1: terrified when you are playing San Diego State when you're 2365 02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:19,880 Speaker 1: a higher impact, twell team. Would you agree with that 2366 02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:24,800 Speaker 1: that you shouldn't be UTAs supposed to be one of them? 2367 02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:27,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know, and they just allegedly, I mean, 2368 02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:30,280 Speaker 1: but they also told us that Washington And remember when 2369 02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:33,440 Speaker 1: the preseason preview, we didn't think that Utah was gonna 2370 02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:36,200 Speaker 1: be as good as people were proclaiming them to be. 2371 02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:39,680 Speaker 1: That's true. I had them a fourth in the pact, 2372 02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:41,600 Speaker 1: twelveth South and I still think that's going to be 2373 02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:44,360 Speaker 1: the case. But if you if you're a transitive property 2374 02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:47,560 Speaker 1: person and I'm not, but you have to acknowledge transit property. 2375 02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:51,959 Speaker 1: B YU beat Arizona by eight. They beat Utah by nine, 2376 02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:57,320 Speaker 1: and San Diego State be Arizona by three hundred thousand points. 2377 02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:04,920 Speaker 1: So what are you? What are you gonna do here? 2378 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm a dumbass. I'm going I'm taking Utah on the points. 2379 02:17:10,440 --> 02:17:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm taking Utah minus seven and a half. I don't 2380 02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:21,280 Speaker 1: know why it's highly inadvisable. It's not even it's not 2381 02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:23,600 Speaker 1: it's not even in Salt Lake, is it. No, it's 2382 02:17:23,640 --> 02:17:26,520 Speaker 1: it's in Diego. Oh. God guaranteed l for me. But 2383 02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm riding with the pack twelve. All right, all right? 2384 02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:35,080 Speaker 1: The next game in chronological order, stony Brook Sea Wolves 2385 02:17:36,160 --> 02:17:39,800 Speaker 1: at Oregon. How the hell did this game get scheduled 2386 02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:44,920 Speaker 1: because Georgia canceled? Would either Georgia or TCU or some 2387 02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:49,080 Speaker 1: somebody canceled? Yeah, but Stony Brook, Like, there's so many 2388 02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:54,280 Speaker 1: smaller schools closer than Stony Washington. You could pull up 2389 02:17:54,280 --> 02:17:57,520 Speaker 1: a a bunch of schools, right, But I don't even 2390 02:17:57,520 --> 02:18:01,080 Speaker 1: know where stony Brook is that. I had never even 2391 02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:03,520 Speaker 1: heard of stony Brook until they got to the College 2392 02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:07,840 Speaker 1: football I mean, the College Baseball World Series a few 2393 02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:09,640 Speaker 1: years ago. That's the first time I had ever heard 2394 02:18:09,640 --> 02:18:14,920 Speaker 1: of him When I was a kid. Um uh, Stony 2395 02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:18,920 Speaker 1: Brook used to flash across the bottom line back when 2396 02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:22,360 Speaker 1: ESPN would do every score, like every single football score 2397 02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:25,160 Speaker 1: would come across the bottom line, and I remember thinking, like, 2398 02:18:25,200 --> 02:18:27,039 Speaker 1: what the hell is Stony Brook? So I looked it 2399 02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,400 Speaker 1: up in like the early part of the internet, and 2400 02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:31,000 Speaker 1: all I remember is that it was in New York. 2401 02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:33,720 Speaker 1: You got somebody coming from New York. What do you 2402 02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:37,840 Speaker 1: think they're getting paid for this game? Over a million? Yeah? Yeah, 2403 02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:42,080 Speaker 1: they gotta be, because they're like, there is no upside. 2404 02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:45,000 Speaker 1: And if you're and if your Oregon, with the injuries 2405 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:48,520 Speaker 1: that you've dealt with, particularly at the linebacker spot, I'm 2406 02:18:48,520 --> 02:18:51,360 Speaker 1: wrapping everybody up in bubble wrap. I don't even know 2407 02:18:51,360 --> 02:18:53,640 Speaker 1: if my best players play, I might pull an Alabama. 2408 02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. At Georgia where they didn't even have um J. T. 2409 02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:02,960 Speaker 1: Daniel's dress lab this week. That's how big of a uh, 2410 02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:07,280 Speaker 1: that's how much that they were favored by. So if 2411 02:19:07,320 --> 02:19:09,720 Speaker 1: you're Oregon, if you come out of the game healthy, 2412 02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:14,400 Speaker 1: that that's the win. I just sorted, Um, I just 2413 02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:21,520 Speaker 1: sorted stony Brooks roster by Wait, the only you would 2414 02:19:21,520 --> 02:19:24,160 Speaker 1: think about that, Okay? I don't know about this game. 2415 02:19:24,840 --> 02:19:29,600 Speaker 1: What is it? Well, I mean they definitely How many 2416 02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:32,160 Speaker 1: players do you think they have over three d pounds? 2417 02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:36,320 Speaker 1: Because it's still a Division one football team? Six six 2418 02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:40,200 Speaker 1: is correct? Are you kidding me? Six players? And you 2419 02:19:40,720 --> 02:19:43,039 Speaker 1: know that there's no way I knew that. Yeah, No, 2420 02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:47,360 Speaker 1: that's a very random question, but I just threw out there. Okay, 2421 02:19:47,400 --> 02:19:53,960 Speaker 1: six players, six players three pounds are over um, all 2422 02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:57,240 Speaker 1: of them offensive linemen. How many players do you think 2423 02:19:57,280 --> 02:20:00,240 Speaker 1: that they have? Here's the other end of that. How 2424 02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:01,959 Speaker 1: many players do you think that they have? And this 2425 02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:04,160 Speaker 1: is again their listed weight, so you know that they 2426 02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:06,320 Speaker 1: could be lying. How many players do you think they 2427 02:20:06,360 --> 02:20:09,840 Speaker 1: have that are one seventy five or lighter? Because there 2428 02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:11,440 Speaker 1: should only be like two three of those on any 2429 02:20:11,480 --> 02:20:20,280 Speaker 1: football team. I'm gonna go with eight. Okay, so so 2430 02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:24,040 Speaker 1: they're a little thin. Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure 2431 02:20:24,080 --> 02:20:26,200 Speaker 1: that there's some decent football players on this team and 2432 02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:31,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna learn. We'll learn something about some of them. Um. 2433 02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:34,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, if I'm if I'm Oregon, I give anybody 2434 02:20:34,959 --> 02:20:40,959 Speaker 1: who even has a bruise or hurt feelings the week off. Dude, 2435 02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:44,720 Speaker 1: that means we're gonna see big Boy's son probably play 2436 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:51,480 Speaker 1: at running back. I'm excited. I want to see snaps 2437 02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:55,200 Speaker 1: Ty Thompson in this game. Oh, he's going to get that. 2438 02:20:55,760 --> 02:20:59,560 Speaker 1: He better get that unless Robbie Ashford goes in first. 2439 02:20:59,720 --> 02:21:02,440 Speaker 1: But we shall see. Um, what's the line on this 2440 02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:05,680 Speaker 1: game that we created? I think we made this one 2441 02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:09,000 Speaker 1: pretty big, thirty six with an over under a fifty four. 2442 02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:12,320 Speaker 1: Give me Oregon and the over, buddy, Okay, I will 2443 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:16,080 Speaker 1: take Oregon in the under. All right? Um, we got 2444 02:21:16,200 --> 02:21:20,800 Speaker 1: Northern Arizona at Arizona. What's the line in this game? 2445 02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:24,920 Speaker 1: We set this one at twenty one and a half. 2446 02:21:25,480 --> 02:21:27,880 Speaker 1: These two teams played two years ago and n A, 2447 02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:31,320 Speaker 1: you dropped over forty on them. Um, we set the 2448 02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:34,200 Speaker 1: over under at forty nine and a half. So is 2449 02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:37,160 Speaker 1: there any way in a you wins this game? No? No, 2450 02:21:37,640 --> 02:21:40,640 Speaker 1: any you can't score this year? They don't have they. 2451 02:21:40,920 --> 02:21:44,200 Speaker 1: What's crazy is any used offensive coordinator is former Oregon 2452 02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:46,560 Speaker 1: duck in Arizona State Sun Devil Aaron flew grad and 2453 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:50,000 Speaker 1: he is considered one of the hot names in coaching. UM. 2454 02:21:50,000 --> 02:21:51,720 Speaker 1: But for some reason, they haven't really figured out what 2455 02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:53,880 Speaker 1: to do at quarterback and so they have not been 2456 02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:56,080 Speaker 1: able to move the ball. If they move the ball 2457 02:21:56,120 --> 02:22:01,800 Speaker 1: against Arizona, that's bad news, man, that's really bad news. 2458 02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:05,720 Speaker 1: They're own two any US oh and two right now. 2459 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:08,760 Speaker 1: They only scored seven points against South Dakota. I believe 2460 02:22:10,480 --> 02:22:14,360 Speaker 1: m M all right, we'll give me Arizona and the 2461 02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:19,240 Speaker 1: under I will take Arizona fingers crossed. Please don't embarrass 2462 02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:22,840 Speaker 1: yourselves and the over and like I said, like that, 2463 02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:26,560 Speaker 1: like I said, they're they're they're rolling with um with 2464 02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:28,400 Speaker 1: will Plumber. So we'll see if they're able to score 2465 02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:31,360 Speaker 1: some points with a more mobile So, if you are 2466 02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:36,840 Speaker 1: dead fish, are you going back to the fraternities to 2467 02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:38,560 Speaker 1: to knock on the doors and tell him to come 2468 02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:41,800 Speaker 1: support you. I need to go back to the fraternities 2469 02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:44,880 Speaker 1: with a win over an AU. I'm not going empty handed. 2470 02:22:45,160 --> 02:22:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going empty handed. So you gotta beat this 2471 02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:50,320 Speaker 1: team first before you go asking for for people to 2472 02:22:50,480 --> 02:22:53,080 Speaker 1: come fill out the stadium. I will hope he yelled 2473 02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:55,760 Speaker 1: at somebody this week because he the amount of effort 2474 02:22:55,800 --> 02:22:58,320 Speaker 1: that he put into getting people out to the games 2475 02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:01,760 Speaker 1: was what you're supp host to do. He did what 2476 02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:04,160 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. And then the and then the 2477 02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:07,800 Speaker 1: athletic department turned around and made it a miserable experience 2478 02:23:08,200 --> 02:23:10,640 Speaker 1: for the people who went out of their way to 2479 02:23:10,680 --> 02:23:13,959 Speaker 1: come see a bad product. And that cannot happen. So 2480 02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I really hope he chewed some people's asses this week 2481 02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:20,000 Speaker 1: and and and they get that figured out. Because ease 2482 02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:22,040 Speaker 1: of access. We've talked about this with the Pack twelve 2483 02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:24,720 Speaker 1: network forever, George, as long as I've known you. Ease 2484 02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,119 Speaker 1: of access is the only way forward. If you're not 2485 02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:30,920 Speaker 1: an optimal product, if you make it hard for people 2486 02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:34,520 Speaker 1: to access your product, and your product isn't that good anyway, 2487 02:23:34,879 --> 02:23:39,520 Speaker 1: they are not going to access your product period exactly. Um. 2488 02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:43,920 Speaker 1: Last game up is a tricky one because we're getting 2489 02:23:44,040 --> 02:23:48,160 Speaker 1: dangerously close to having to include this team in the 2490 02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:55,720 Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles podcast. We said that if they beat that, 2491 02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:58,920 Speaker 1: if they beat the Pack twelve teams this year, then 2492 02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:00,880 Speaker 1: we're going to include them. And that's the b y 2493 02:24:00,959 --> 02:24:05,560 Speaker 1: U Coopers. They have already beaten Arizona, they have already 2494 02:24:05,560 --> 02:24:09,480 Speaker 1: beaten Utah. They play Arizona State this week and then 2495 02:24:09,480 --> 02:24:11,879 Speaker 1: in a few weeks they have Washington State and then 2496 02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:15,720 Speaker 1: they have usc bro. If they go five and actually, 2497 02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:17,640 Speaker 1: if they even start out three and oh in the 2498 02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:20,120 Speaker 1: Pack twelve, we we do have to include them in 2499 02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:22,920 Speaker 1: the podcast until they lose to a Pack twelve team, 2500 02:24:23,120 --> 02:24:27,879 Speaker 1: right technically, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm I'm cool with that. 2501 02:24:28,160 --> 02:24:30,600 Speaker 1: I dig I dig their team a big gunn a 2502 02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:33,360 Speaker 1: Romney fan. Um they got, they got a couple of 2503 02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:36,160 Speaker 1: players that I really like, So why not? Yeah? I 2504 02:24:36,160 --> 02:24:38,680 Speaker 1: didn't think this team was gonna be that good because 2505 02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:43,000 Speaker 1: last year with Zack Wilson, they played a mediocre schedule 2506 02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:45,840 Speaker 1: and then so I thought that bouncing back to the 2507 02:24:45,879 --> 02:24:50,120 Speaker 1: Pack twelve and their normal schedule would mean different results. 2508 02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,440 Speaker 1: But and granted, I'm not even gonna count the Arizona 2509 02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:55,080 Speaker 1: one because they stink, but the Utah one was and 2510 02:24:55,120 --> 02:24:58,680 Speaker 1: the way they dominated them was surprising. And now they 2511 02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:04,480 Speaker 1: get Arizona State they are, and Arizona State's favorite by 2512 02:25:04,600 --> 02:25:07,879 Speaker 1: three and a half points over under fifty one and 2513 02:25:07,879 --> 02:25:15,320 Speaker 1: a half. I got b y U and the over. Yeah, 2514 02:25:15,360 --> 02:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I think those are pretty decent picks. I'm I will 2515 02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:22,440 Speaker 1: take Um. You can't do it. I was about to say, 2516 02:25:22,480 --> 02:25:25,200 Speaker 1: you can't do it. You you have to pick Arizon, 2517 02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:27,720 Speaker 1: but you still have Arizona State winning. You just think 2518 02:25:27,760 --> 02:25:30,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those classic herm comes down 2519 02:25:30,280 --> 02:25:31,800 Speaker 1: to a field goal things. But I'm gonna tell you 2520 02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:34,879 Speaker 1: something that you might not realize. Arizona State's kicking game 2521 02:25:35,160 --> 02:25:37,840 Speaker 1: is not good, so if it comes down to a 2522 02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:41,520 Speaker 1: field goal, it might not fall in the sun Devil's favorite. 2523 02:25:41,560 --> 02:25:43,240 Speaker 1: They need to win by at least a touchdown, so 2524 02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:47,160 Speaker 1: I'll take I will take a s u. Um Uh. 2525 02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:48,920 Speaker 1: They're a little bit dinged up in the running game, 2526 02:25:48,959 --> 02:25:53,120 Speaker 1: and by us running games pretty impressive. Um. Both you 2527 02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:54,840 Speaker 1: and I are on the over here, and I think 2528 02:25:54,879 --> 02:25:57,720 Speaker 1: we're both probably wrong on the over fifty one and 2529 02:25:57,760 --> 02:25:59,400 Speaker 1: a half. So do you want to change it on 2530 02:25:59,440 --> 02:26:03,800 Speaker 1: the record. Nope, Nope, I'm sticking with it. I will 2531 02:26:04,240 --> 02:26:06,560 Speaker 1: go completely opposite of you in this game. Then I'm 2532 02:26:06,560 --> 02:26:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna change my pick. I have a SU minus three 2533 02:26:09,240 --> 02:26:11,119 Speaker 1: and a half. I'll take under fifty one and a half. 2534 02:26:11,879 --> 02:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Tweet comes out from Adam Schefter. Okay, 2535 02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:17,320 Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw. I know what you're about 2536 02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:22,440 Speaker 1: to say. League sources believe Chief's offensive coordinator Eric bit 2537 02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:26,039 Speaker 1: Imy will emerge as a head coaching candidate for USC. 2538 02:26:26,560 --> 02:26:30,520 Speaker 1: The enemy is from southern California and has told confidence 2539 02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:33,280 Speaker 1: in the past that USC is one of the only 2540 02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:38,680 Speaker 1: college jobs that might interest him. Do you think that, 2541 02:26:39,480 --> 02:26:42,480 Speaker 1: my mind, you he would have to go back to recruiting. 2542 02:26:42,920 --> 02:26:46,560 Speaker 1: He's not necessarily the most politically correct person in the 2543 02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:50,680 Speaker 1: in the whole world. Do you think he leaves the 2544 02:26:50,920 --> 02:26:54,280 Speaker 1: NFL to go recruit kids or do you think that 2545 02:26:54,600 --> 02:26:58,760 Speaker 1: he will just wait on his NFL job? Hell no. 2546 02:26:58,959 --> 02:27:02,199 Speaker 1: The reason that that tweet was sent um from probably 2547 02:27:02,360 --> 02:27:07,040 Speaker 1: the enemies agent contacting um Adam Schefter was so that 2548 02:27:07,160 --> 02:27:11,800 Speaker 1: the Bears might consider firing Matt Maggie tomorrow. That's That's 2549 02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:14,680 Speaker 1: the only thing that I can think of, Like that 2550 02:27:14,959 --> 02:27:17,640 Speaker 1: is an invitation for the Bears to fire their head 2551 02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:20,440 Speaker 1: coach so that they make sure they get their guy. 2552 02:27:22,480 --> 02:27:25,320 Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion. Yeah, this this, this does smell 2553 02:27:25,400 --> 02:27:30,480 Speaker 1: like a smoke screen. Um. Yeah. So but back to 2554 02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:37,760 Speaker 1: the um. But back to the Picks in Arizona State. 2555 02:27:37,920 --> 02:27:40,600 Speaker 1: So you were talking about their their kicking game and 2556 02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:44,560 Speaker 1: it comes down to that, then they may be in trouble, 2557 02:27:45,080 --> 02:27:47,320 Speaker 1: big trouble. Yeah, because they had to bring a kicker 2558 02:27:47,440 --> 02:27:50,120 Speaker 1: back out of the portal and Christians and dajas Um 2559 02:27:50,360 --> 02:27:53,480 Speaker 1: and then they immediately after like two practices with the 2560 02:27:53,560 --> 02:27:56,879 Speaker 1: team made him the starting kicker, and he still missed 2561 02:27:56,879 --> 02:28:01,480 Speaker 1: an extra point. I believe, so they're they're struggling for sure. Yep. 2562 02:28:02,200 --> 02:28:05,360 Speaker 1: All right, those are the picks for the week, and 2563 02:28:05,879 --> 02:28:09,280 Speaker 1: that is to pack twelve Apostles podcast for this week. 2564 02:28:10,200 --> 02:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm George Rice, sir, He's Ralph Fams, and I hope 2565 02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:15,400 Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed it. Leave a five star rating wherever 2566 02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,119 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, Tell a friend about it. All 2567 02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:21,560 Speaker 1: that jazz as well. Peace out, Catch you guys next week.