1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: My guest today is Running Green. He's the charismatic host 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: of a fishing story. Running Green is a graduate. Because 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm from Texas, I always got throughout that Texas connection. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Is a graduate of Texas Tech University, where he ran track. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Now I didn't run tracks, so I was just a 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: guy who watched people run track. He served as I 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: have to thank him for the US He's a US 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Marine Corps veteran and successful former executive in the corporate world, 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: just like I used to be at IBM. So we 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of We kind of got a lot 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: of things in common. You know, Texas, he did the 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: corporate thing and all that good stuff. Now he is 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: a well known fisherman, something I cannot do. He's participated 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: in multiple professional fishing circuits. He's a indeed one of 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: the top people in the world. Five years ago. Since 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: he was five years old, he's been fishing. I remember 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I started the Little Cane Baked Bank for fishing. That's 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: why I started in the business. His show has won 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: over thirty two awards total, including the multiple Telly Awards 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: in the Premier Honoring, the Premiers Honoring of Program an 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: Excellence in Television and Video please work with money making 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: conversations masterclass again. One of my dear friends is to 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: running green. How are you doing, sir? Rashawn? Is an 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: absolute pleasure to see you again. Man. You know I 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: always people like you, all right, I always gott I'm enjoying. 26 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: But I gotta play with the intro because you know 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you're such a unique individual with your skills. Said, 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: because how many black fishermen we know, Like I said, 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: I fished. You know there's a black people like that fishing, 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: but professional black fisherman's that's a rare. Just like race 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: car driving, you know, it's like golfers. You know there's 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot of black people out there golfer When you 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: turn on the TV, how many black people golfing? It's 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there race cars. Only you 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: see is Bubba Wallace. And so it becomes a very 36 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: unique skill set because you can enjoy it. But when 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: you start going to that next level, what makes you 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: that unique African American talent or Black talent that's been 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: able to break that sea link? Well, I think one 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: of the things that is uh fishing is a universal language. 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: And if you understand how to navigate the world using 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: that universal language UM and understanding the needs or needs 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: no matter where you go and what you do, and 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: fishing is fishing. I think it helps you to figure 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: out how to win in this industry. And I've been 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: able to do that, and I'm so fortunate and blessed 47 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: um to be able to make a living doing it 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: and making a living. And so you know, we we 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: last time I interviewed was Smack dab and COVID, you know, 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: came out of the George Force crisis and so the 51 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: world was different. The world was different at that time. 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: And now we fast forward to two because I you know, 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: some I think this would be three different transitions. You 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: had the transition before George Floyd and COVID, Then you 55 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: had COVID and George Floyd, and then now we deal 56 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: with post George Floyd and still in the pandemic but 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: with restrictions involuntary involuntary. Can you walk us through those 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: different steps of your career and where you are right now? So, 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: pre George Floyd and and the crisis we had in 60 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: our country, it was a lot going on. And this 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: is a very unique industry and it's in that the 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: business model is similar to NASCAR, as you see folks 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: wearing a lot of patches and a lot of different 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: sponsors on their on their jersey, on their peril, and 65 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: even on their vehicle that they use, whether it's a 66 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: boat or whether it's a NASCAR car. So it's the 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: same in that sense, but it's also unique in the 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: sense that you see little sprinkles of minorities like myself 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: in the industry. UM So it can be seen as 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: a very unique thing. But my job is to more 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: so educate people on the history of fishing in America 72 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: because fishing in America goes through the hands of slaves 73 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: in America where we were a part of fishing, especially 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: African American females. A people don't know that um as 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: relates to fishing. So hence that kind of leads me 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: to my next point, which leads to my great grandma, 77 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: who is one generation removed from slavey in the nineteen 78 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: o six. Um taught me everything I know about fishing, 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: but taught me the history of it as well. Wow, 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: that's been amazing. So then you got into the COVID 81 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: run and what did you did? Did did COVID shut 82 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: down the fishing turn up the fishing circuit. It actually 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: didn't because here's the thing, Roshaun, no one had anything 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: else to do and could not do anything else but 85 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: go outside, and fishing was one of the things. As 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the fishing industry exploded. They couldn't 87 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: keep anything on the shelves. Although everything was back ordered, 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: people were fishing. More boats and engines were bought, and 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: even to this day the market is oversaturated with boats 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: and people still trying to get boats engines that are 91 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: back ordered. Because the remedy or or at the time 92 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: was just fishing. That's all we can do and be 93 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: safe and still be COVID friendly outside because you're six 94 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: ft apart the whole nine yards and uh, that was 95 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: the only thing to do. So a lot of folks 96 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: there was over a million new license issued just because 97 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: of fishing UM and folks who have never tried it, 98 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: they decided to give it a try. And then you've 99 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: got a certain percentage of folks it's stuck around um 100 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: to continue to fishing because they realized it's something that 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I missed and I should have been doing. And that's 102 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: the thing about COVID. It was eliminated that we were 103 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: all able to make from the limit of COVID. And 104 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is people were finding things 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: that they thought they couldn't do. People were writing, more 106 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: books were written, people were fishing more, people were enjoying 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: things that they didn't do previously because they had to 108 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: do it. When you're forced to do something, it's amazing 109 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: what the human spirit can do about So gelemen, why 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: do you have to have a license to fish? Well, 111 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: that's a good question, and my dad asked me that 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: question all the time, and I have to always rectify 113 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: that you gotta throw something back. Please, you can't do 114 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: this to me. What the reason is is because if 115 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: you did not allow or if you did not teach 116 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: people how to rationalize or or have conservation with fish, 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: people will take as many as they could. I have 118 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: seen times or people have caught thirty forty fifty fish 119 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: for what reason, and a lot of times just for 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: their own ego to say, look what I called. Here's 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: a picture of all the fish that I caught. But 122 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: if you did that and multiplied it times the people 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: that fish in the world, can you imagine if we 124 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: would have any resources left. There's places in other countries 125 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: that they don't have the same stipulations we have where 126 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: they actually you know, take advantage to a point where 127 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: almost extinct some species of fish. So if we don't 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: do that and learn, you know, help reproduce the fish, 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: then ultimately our kids kids can enjoy the thing we 130 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: love called fishing. So basically, by getting a license, it 131 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: allows you to fish, but fish with with some type 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: of conservation in mind. You just can't just load up 133 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: all the fish and walk out of are because because 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: somebody can come by and find you if you don't 135 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: have a license or stop you from fishing if you 136 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: don't have a license, correct, that is correct. As a 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: matter of fact, that even goes further than that. Sometimes 138 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: when you if you have a boat and you take 139 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: too many fish, they have the ability to take your boat, 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: to take your tackle everything. That's how important it is 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: for you to know what you're doing when you go 142 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: out and fish. Even if you're fishing on the bank, 143 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: people say, well, I'm not I'm fishing on the bank. 144 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't need a license. You need a license as well, 145 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: and senior citizens typically don't need a license, but always 146 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: check your state. And then sometimes the adolescents maybe less 147 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: than ten or something to that effect. But every state 148 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: is different, so you always got to check and make sure. 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: I tend to believe to keep a lifetime license, so 150 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I never have to worry about it unless I'm going 151 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: to another state. Because at the end of the day, 152 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: the worst feeling in the world that you'll never forget 153 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: is to have an officer come and you take your 154 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: court or sometimes even take all your equipment, which that 155 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: stuff can be expensive, or you can take you to jack. 156 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 157 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Master Class with Rushan McDonald. I'm speaking to Ronnie Green. 159 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: He is the chrismatic host of A Fishing Story with 160 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: Ronnie Green as show us one of the thirty two 161 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Awards and as as well as a very elite uh 162 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,479 Speaker 1: Telly Awards for the quality of the show. The creativity 163 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: is to show the programs of the show and when 164 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: you're when you're an African American and you venture out 165 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: into the world. I work for IBM, so I know 166 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: that was a world where you know, you look around, 167 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: it's not a world that's populated with it not an 168 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: African American, like any corporate job is, but you can 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: be treated different. People can feel that you're unique, that 170 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: you are able to be imployed in that particular fashion. 171 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: What is this, what's going? When did you finally get 172 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: comfortable out there running being a very unique member of 173 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: a very white group. I would say probably when I 174 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: was bass fishing. So you have different styles of fishing. 175 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: There's saltwater fishing, which is out in the ocean, and 176 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: then there's freshwater fishing, which is bass fishing. And bass 177 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: fishing is a very unique skill set because if you're 178 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: bass fishing, most of the time you're fishing with artificial baits. 179 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: And why is that important? Because if you have an 180 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: artificial bait versus a live bait, fish prefer the filet 181 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: min young versus the imitation. So it takes a very 182 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: unique skilled fisherman to imitate a live bait to force 183 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: a bass to eat. Some of that in bass fishing 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: rules the industry. So I felt like, if I can 185 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: actually be successful in what rules the industry, bass fishing 186 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: by fishing bass tournaments, then I think, uh, it con 187 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: turned into something big, not knowing that it would. So 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: how that happened was because of I spent more time 189 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: fishing after I lost my mother. Surprisingly, you know, we 190 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: never expected it, and ultimately it was the same. It's 191 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: like the COVID situation. You were forced in a position 192 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: where you had to figure out how to get therapy. 193 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: My therapy at the time fishing every single day after 194 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: losing my mother was fishing. I had time to think, 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: had time to reflect, had time to grieve, had a 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: lot of time because I was out there by myself fishing. 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: I lived on the lake at the time every single day, 198 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: ten twelve hours, sometimes not eating, just drinking a lot 199 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: of fluids, thinking about fishing. And ultimately, because of the 200 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: at it turned into a skill set that actually took 201 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: a quantum leap and start winning tournaments, not knowing that 202 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: the grieving process was helping me become more proficient at 203 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: as a professional fisherman. And I started getting sponsors because 204 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I was winning, and then I started to believe that 205 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: I can really do this. And then I start traveling 206 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: around the country fishing these big tournaments with some of 207 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: the best in the entire world. And when you can 208 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: actually win and get a check doing that, and then 209 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: folks sponsors noticed you, you feel like maybe I can 210 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: do this, and ultimately it turned into something else. The 211 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: TV side came about because of the nature in which 212 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: that I communicated on stage in a charismatic manner. I 213 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: would actually leave a little inspirational an adult. And then also, uh, 214 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: just give someone suthing positive to to talk about when 215 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: most people would get on the stage and to talk 216 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: about all their sponsors and everybody wants something positive they 217 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: can hang onto and possibly marinate on later on. And 218 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: ultimately I did. And then a producer came up to 219 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: me and said, I think you can make a fantastic 220 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: TV host and the rest of history. Wow, now you 221 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: have like I go back as a kid. You know, 222 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: I was on the cane with the little cork putting 223 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: out there, you know, the little Mark Twain moment. You 224 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just watching a little bass. I 225 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: think I was purchased what I was really catching all 226 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: the time. So let's let's go. Let's go through this 227 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: little education process. Because you said bash is the popular 228 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: popular circuit tournament. They have small wall bash and large mouthpaths. 229 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I've called both. Then I've called catfish, which is you 230 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: gotta have gloves with them bad boys, because they will 231 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: cut you. They will cut you now. And then you 232 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: have the perch, and you have trout. I've caught all 233 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: these things, so let's let's go. What I call the 234 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: fish that that that that scares me and that I 235 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: have been cut grabbing this fish incorrectly is the catfish. 236 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,359 Speaker 1: What makes the catfish such an interesting is a delicacy 237 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: on plates and restaurants, specially in the South. What makes 238 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: you such an interesting and how you go about catching 239 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: a catfish? You gotta understand a catfish a very slimy fish. 240 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: You don't see scales, So scales is one thing, and 241 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: it's also in a sense of scavenger, so it will 242 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: eat any and everything on the bottom of the lake. 243 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: So it also has on each side, as if I 244 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: was a catfish coming out of each side by its 245 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: uh gills, bones that has a little anecdota poison. And 246 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: then you have one coming out the back. So when 247 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you grab it, most of the time, if this is 248 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: a catfish, you want to grab it from the front 249 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: underneath those storms. And then you never grab it from 250 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: the back because the back is where that other thorn 251 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: is and you hold onto a pretty tight there's a 252 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: bone there as well. If you hold on pretty tight, 253 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: it won't slip, because that's the other thing you usually 254 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: when it slips, it will fall, It hits a toe 255 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: and you'll never forget it, but it will life. You 256 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: never do it again. And I've been there, my great grandmother, 257 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 1: my dad, Boy, what you do at the end of 258 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the day, there was some tough lessons learned, but you'll 259 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: never forget it, because that was our staple of fish 260 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: growing up, catfish my great grandmother, my dad Friday nights 261 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: a church, but we eat so much caffish. I found 262 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: out his caveng and like I said, that was my did. 263 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: We go out there and I cut my hand up 264 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: a many of the day trying to trying to crown though, 265 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: because as a kid, you don't really know and you 266 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: don't remember the lesson learned previously, and you get cut 267 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: up enough by that cat for you either gonna fear 268 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: it or you're gonna learn how to pick it up now. 269 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: And then that then perch, because I was always on 270 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: the bank fishing with my little cork perch, explained to 271 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: people what the Zacklys perch so purchase related to the bass, 272 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: and we call them bluegill. They're also called sheryl crackers. 273 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: So there's bluegills and they're shell crackers, and some of 274 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: them call them ready or there's so many different nicknames 275 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: for fish there. The official name is a bluegill, and 276 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: they call them perch as well. And they are also 277 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: a good fish for bass to eat. So they're about 278 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: a pan size and the pan fish is usually the 279 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: size of your line. O, there's so good. You gotta 280 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: scale him off. Now, you gotta scale him off. Now 281 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: you gotta get that knife and knock all those scales off. Now. Yeah, 282 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: but I use you for you know, professor, I'm a 283 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: little black. They don't believe in scaling everything. Look absolutely, 284 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: you know. I'm talking to Rodney gray one about good 285 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: dear friends and the business that it is unique because 286 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: it's a rarity to a talented African American fisherman. He 287 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: has a popular show called a Fishing Story with Running 288 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: Green that airs him. All the rokud, the dish, the 289 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: direct TV, all the all the show networks that you 290 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: can stream on is available to get his show. And 291 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: it's before I want I want to let everybody know 292 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: tell us exactly what a fishing Story is and then 293 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: i'n get back to talking about the small am off 294 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: bash law, about bath and the trout. So Efficiing Story 295 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: is a show that walks people through a personal life 296 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: of a person through the portal of efficient so the 297 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: highs and lows of life, and we've all had it, 298 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day we see the 299 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: highs and lows and see how people have persevered, because 300 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: it's always a very unique thing to see someone that 301 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: have gone through the same thing you've gone through and 302 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: ultimately have come out on top. And we we highlight 303 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: people that have gone through tremendous life experiences on the 304 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Fihing Story. And it's really important that people understand the 305 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: motivation behind relaxing relaxing. You know, we we we live 306 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: such a stressed life. And I you know you've been 307 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: by my house. I have a little pond if I 308 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: aco behind my property and that relaxes me, Ronnie. And 309 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: when I don't care high intensity is out there, I 310 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: get there and I just see that water, just the rippling. 311 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: I just see some minnots out there and it's to 312 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: the water swirl you the fishing Salt Me frog in 313 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: Salt Me. They went the other direction that see these 314 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: geese landing and it's just really relaxing. That is such 315 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: a great, uh therapeutic moment out there for you. It's 316 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: something you would recommend the people to experience on a 317 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: regular basis. Absolutely, Rachean. I think it's it's something about 318 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: we have a kinder shift to water, and nobody can 319 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: fully understand it and explain it. But at the end 320 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: of the day, when we are around water and we 321 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: go on vacation, even if just looking at water as 322 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: something about it, because if you think about it, not 323 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: to get too deep, but our body is made up 324 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: of majority of water. So it's a kindred ship because 325 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: you're relating to something that is you're developed by your 326 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: body is made up of. So I don't understand it totally, 327 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it has a 328 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: therapeutic value that you can never put a price on. Yes, 329 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: a fishing store hosted by Running Green is. You can 330 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: catch it on the Outdoor Channel, World Fishing Network, NBC 331 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: Sports Bay Area, and the Armed Forces Networkers where all 332 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: it's a very popular show. They really takes you back. 333 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: Like I said when I say came came pro fishing 334 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: with the court mark Twain and you know exactly where 335 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I was at right there. You know, that's a classic moment. 336 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Now let's go to which I consider the one of 337 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the prettiest fish is trout trout fishing, and then explain 338 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: how you get that, and then we're gonna go to 339 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: large mall bass and the small mall bass. Yes, sir, so, 340 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: trout is that's another very unique, beautiful species. There is 341 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: a saltwater trout what we call the ocean trout, and 342 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: then you have the freshwater trout found and typically streams, 343 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: so the beautiful streams where you see real shallow clear 344 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: water and most of the time the best way to 345 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: catch a trout of that magnitude is through fly fishing. 346 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: So that's another very unique skill set of fishing because 347 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: you're using a mainline and you see the guys just 348 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: whipping it and forth, and that is so relaxing because 349 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: you're around a lot of mountains. Typically you're around a 350 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: lot of We were just in uh Missouri bass Frow 351 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Shops um doing a show with Johnny Morris, and one 352 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: of the things we did was fly fishing, and it 353 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: is so amazing to catch a fish on such a 354 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: small little fly that they can see hit the water 355 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: with all this moving water and as soon as it 356 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: comes by them, they hit it. It's a beautiful thing. 357 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: That's that's. That's that's so just constantly just feed it, 358 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: just constantly, just feed it into a certain area. That's that's. 359 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: That's amazing. We'll be right back with more Money Making 360 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return to Money 361 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's let's go 362 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: to the small moth bass, which I've caught a large 363 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: mouth bass. What is the difference between the two and 364 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: what makes them such a great a popular circuit fish. 365 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: They're both bass um in the bass family. But to 366 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: think about a small mouth bass, it lives in northern 367 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: cooler climates anywhere from northern Alabama on up north. And 368 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: that is probably poundful pound the toughest fish in freshwater. Uh. 369 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: You can see they have a larger tail than what 370 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: a large mouth basses. And then they have a smaller mouth, 371 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: much smaller mouth, but big girthy body. So they have 372 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: a lot of stealth um and lots of power. And 373 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: you will know when you have one on the flight 374 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: of your life. Man. That is something else, and of 375 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: course everybody's favorite, the large mouth bass. You know I 376 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: love them plus, yes, sir, And the reason is that 377 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: is the most I guess opportunists type predator. In fresh water. 378 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: You can have little baby ducks and I have seen 379 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: it in action. Unfortunately, going along with their mother. All 380 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, one of those just disappear because the 381 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: basket will hit him on top and take them under. 382 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Their mouth is so large. Anything they think they can 383 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: get their mouth around, they will take it down. I 384 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: have seen them take baby rabbits that have fallen in 385 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: the water. I have seen vast take anything that they 386 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: think their mouth. Frogs are a favorite of them, and 387 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: of course bayfish so and that's what's so intriguing about 388 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: us chasing that green fish, because you can trick them 389 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: on top with a top water babe up and hit 390 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: it and it's a beautiful explosion. It's amazing fight. Or 391 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: you can catch them on a crank bay. You can 392 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: catch some all sorts of ways. But whatever it is, 393 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: you can trigger those latter lines on the side of 394 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: his body, her body, and I'll tell you what that thing, 395 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: when it feels the vibration, it will turn on it 396 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: and before you know it, it will be on on 397 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: your line. And the thing is fast. People don't realize 398 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: why is this person really so fast across top They 399 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: can go twelve miles an hour. That's a fast fish. 400 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: So and that's probably why we chase that green monster. 401 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: And it's like a thirteen billion dollar industry just chasing 402 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: that green fish. So I I gotta ask you, though, 403 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: what people I want to be like Mr Rodney Green? 404 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: How does one get into this business? It is not 405 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: an overnight process, but how does one start? It's a 406 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: very tricky thing and so there is no guarantees. You 407 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: have to be very careful. I would always say that 408 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: make sure you have your education before you do anything, 409 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: so you have a fallback plan. Um. But the way 410 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: it typically works is to fish tournaments, local tournaments. There 411 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: used to be salt water tournaments, but they only have 412 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: those larger massive tournaments like Selfish and that's teams that 413 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: have been together for many years. But on the bath side, 414 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: you can fish your local, local tournaments and what is 415 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: called the weekend series A V, A, BFL or even 416 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: the bass Master, which is what I still continue to 417 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: fish and keep my skills up. So there are several 418 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: ways to join it, and and then you move up 419 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: in the ranks based on how you finish, and you 420 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: keep fishing, and some people move up and they don't 421 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: want to leave. They just do it consistently. It's a 422 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: tough road. You're on the road a lot. If you 423 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: have a family, you're not gonna see them a lot. 424 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: It's similar to a military style of lifestyle. So there's 425 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: a lot you must give up and you must be 426 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: committed because there's gonna be some days you literally don't 427 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: catch fish. That's the nature fishing, and that's why we 428 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: love it because at the end of the day you 429 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: might get punched down and you know, knocked out by 430 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: the bass. And you come back the next day and 431 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: U t ko that fish. You know before you knew it, 432 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: you know the first cast, and that's why we love it. Well, 433 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: if you've had some of my friends on the show, Okay, 434 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: I remember if I left this show, because I'm telling 435 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: everybody you know running, I got brill You don't win 436 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: now this brother, why now I've been by my house 437 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: fixed and breakfast. He caught fish in my backyard. Then 438 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: Laville Crawford, he'd been on the show nephew, Timmy. He's 439 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: been on the show. All these people been on the shows, 440 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: every Sean McDonald. But I will not be a good 441 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: host to talk about the experience that they had on 442 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: your show. Lavere Crawford, we know it is a in 443 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: the comedy terms, is a food, Nephew, Tommy, is a food. 444 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: Talk about the experience of fishing with these two gentlemen. 445 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: They're very gifted in their craft. Now you got them 446 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: in your craft. Yes, it's amazing because they are very 447 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: good fishermen as well. Velle Crafford loves his bass fishing. 448 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if people look at his social media, 449 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: but if you ever peek at his Instagram, there's gonna 450 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: be a bass showing up somewhere. He's gonna be in 451 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: a city. He'll find a little pond and have a 452 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: little rod, and he will find a pond and catch 453 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: him some fish. Hold it up like, Hey, I'm in Ohio. 454 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm over here at this club and I'm actually catching 455 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: fish around the corner. Is a person that loves and 456 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: has a passion to fish. You didn't even know that. 457 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yes, and then, uh, Nephew Tommy, 458 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: you know I'm still waiting to pranking one day on fishing. 459 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Like matter. Friend will be fishing together probably pretty quick. 460 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: We talked yesterday and uh, he's amazing fisherman. He loves inshore. 461 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: We did an offshore shoot and I'll tell you what 462 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: he We had it cooked on the spot and it 463 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: was amazing. So we had a chef on the boat 464 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: and it was incredible. And of course one of my 465 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: closest friends is aren't s J. That is a fool 466 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: and a half about that J. That's way too much 467 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: energy to be on the boats, way too much energy. 468 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: So he has and there was a little anecdote there, 469 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: there's a little trivia. He has actually helped me and 470 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: home my offshore saltwater fish skills. So you're always learning 471 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: something new and fishing and you'll never master the fishing 472 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: game totally because there's so many different ways to catch fish. 473 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: But he actually taught me a lot about all shore fishing. 474 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'll be with him Monday 475 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: with full four team gentlemen, a bunch of bucks brothers 476 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: get together man and we do this annual trip, this 477 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: fishing fund and fellowship on a hundred thirty five ft y'all, 478 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: and we have a chef and uh all we do 479 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: is fish and of course we're gonna clamb Absolutely, that's 480 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: the m O. And he's a good athlete too and 481 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: as well as as a farmer track star as well. So, sir, 482 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: so you had a lot of kinship out there with 483 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: these gentlemen. But again, a fishing story with Rodney Green 484 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: Runnie is always like a reminisce I hope when I 485 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: interview man, it's like I just it's just a natural 486 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: storytelling conversation. We have it on my show because you 487 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: are motivating. You are special, because you're you're you're an 488 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: effective talent, uh well known talent or star in an 489 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: area that not many people though our color, our stars. 490 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: So that makes you unique and special. Don't never forget 491 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: that and keep understanding that when you come on my show, 492 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: you're just a powerful motivational tool that I use to 493 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: encourage others to say you can do that too. Thank 494 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: you for coming on money making conversations about the class. 495 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: Thank you, ra Sean. I appreciate it so much. I 496 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: always remember leave with your gifts, keep winning. 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