1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week fourteen edition. It's finally 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: time to play the Rams edition God Zach erstbin with 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: me Bird Gang. First weekend in December, second to last 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: home game, and yeah, now the Rams show up on 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: the schedule and it's a good Rams team, very good. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: We break down the matchup, take a look at the 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: injury report, and of course head into enemy territory. Good 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: friend Stu Jackson joins the show senior staff rider for 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: the Rams dot Com. But first K one is done. 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine fifty five and it 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: starts now. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: Bud to Baker, What Heart? 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 4: What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: dot Com Slash podcast. 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: Hit the ends up for the Cardinal touchdown. 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: Drey McBride, He's been an absolute monster. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griler. 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Happy Football Friday is the Cardinals get ready 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: to play the Rams, and it's going to be a 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: banged up Cardinals team Zach that faces the Rams on Sunday. 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: It's been a banged up team all season long. First 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: things first, was not expecting this news Friday morning. But 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: let's jump right into it. By the way, how are 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: you fantastic? 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: How are you? 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing very well? 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: All right? 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Yeah, he is done for the season. Head 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: coach Jonathan Agannon made the announcements on Friday. Kyler had 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: some extra testing done on that foot, went out of States, 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: but the injury is not quote progressing the way we want, 35 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: in the words of Jonathan Gannon, So they are shutting 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: down K one for the rest of the season. 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a shame. It's a shame. 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: Look, Jacoby Presets done a fantastic job in place of 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray's. At least you have confidence in who your 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: new QB one is for the remainder of the season. 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: But you feel bad for Kyler. There was so much 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: hope and optimism going into this season, and in the 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: first two games in general, it's not just hope and 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: optimism for Kyler Murray, but for this team as a whole. 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: They have not met the mark that I think a 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: lot of people were expecting to be the case. They 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: win the first two games they fall on by one 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: point in the games against the San Francisco forty nine 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: ers and then the Seattle Seahawks on when they played 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 3: on Thursday Night Football, and then that game against Tennessee 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: when everything went wrong, and that was the game that Kyler. 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 4: Murray injured himself. So it's a shame. It's a bummer. 53 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: There's gonna be a lot of talking. We won't talk 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: about it a lot right now because we're gonna have 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: a whole offseason to kind of break down what this 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: means for the future of this Cardinals team with Kyler Murray. 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: But you have to feel for a number one now. 58 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: To be fair, The question was asked to Jag as 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: far as is Kyler going to be your starting quarterback 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: next season? And in typical coach Beacon, I would expect 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: this from any head coach, Jag said, I'm focused on 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: the Rams and that's where his focus should be now. Outside. Yes, 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: I can certainly understand where everyone else's attention is going 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: to go. But right now, Kyler Murray remains on injured 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: reserve and he's going to remain on IR for the 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: rest of the season. And we can have that discussion 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: when we need to have that discussion. Today, though, is 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: not the day. It is two months, literally two months 69 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: to the day that we last saw Kyler Murray wear 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: a Cardinals uniform at State Farm Stadium in that game 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans is October fifth. We are now 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: speaking on December fifth. So hey, a lot has happened 73 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: in these two months, and yes, there is going to 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: be questions and uncertainty moving forward. Do the Cardinals move 75 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: forward with Kyler? And what does Kyler think about all this? 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: We have not heard from him since October fifth. 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: And we likely won't hear from Kyler for a long 78 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: period of time. I'm not sure when we'll hear from 79 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray next. But look, he posted on his social 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: media platform, you Post on TikTok and with the caption 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: that said a weird year never again. You feel for 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: the guy because this was the year where such a 83 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: spotlight was on on Kyler Murray. What is he going 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: to be able to do with Marvin Harrison Junior for 85 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: a second season year number three under Drew Petsing and 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: it just never came to be. James Connor goes out 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: for the season in that Week three game against San Francisco. 88 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: The offensive line has not played to the way that 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: I think many people expected for it to be the case. 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: The one bright spot from the year so far, I 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: think without question, has been what Trey McBride's been able 92 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: to do building upon dominant year after dominant year after 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: dominant year, and he could etch his name into the 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: history books even more this weekend against the Los Angeles Rams. 95 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: But when it comes down to Kyler Murray, you just 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: you hope for the best for his long term health 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: because you never won a quarterback like with Kyler. Skilled 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: was Kyler's skill set, his ability to move around the pocket, 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: make magic with his legs, that has been limited big 100 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: time by this foot injury. He was able to get 101 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: back out on the field in the game against the 102 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans after he exited, went to the locker room, 103 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: came back out onto the field, but he was in 104 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: the pocket a lot more. We didn't see him scramble 105 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: around in the way that we have grown used to 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: seeing Kyler play. So with this injury, clearly it was 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: significant enough. It wasn't progressing in the way that they 108 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: expected for it to be. You just it's going to 109 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: be a very interesting offseason. 110 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: Really unfortunate. You were hoping for clarity here in year seven, 111 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: year three with this coaching staff in front office. I 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: don't think you've got that now. The uncertainty is used 113 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: to put it Zach moving on into the off season. 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: But that's the off season. We're not quite there yet. 115 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: There are five games to go, starting with this Sunday, 116 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: when the Cardinals host the Rams once again, an opportunity 117 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals to get a division win. They are 118 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: winless in the NFC West. Cardinals three and nine overall, 119 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Rams nine and three. Two twenty five is the kickoff 120 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday nine thirty. Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona 121 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network. We'll dive more into that specific match 122 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: up here in a moment with Stu Jackson. But the 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: injury report and I laugh because you have to laugh 124 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: otherwise you'll just cry. 125 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 5: Yep. 126 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: Here's the list of who will not see on Sunday, 127 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: and it's again unfortunate. Marvin Harrison Junior, well, what was 128 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: another game? 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: Stylest alright? 130 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: Greg dors what, Max Mountain what? Walter Nolan? 131 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: What? 132 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: Rabbit? 133 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Demerson? 134 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: Oh boy? 135 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: And in addition, because we did see LJ. Collier on 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: the practice field this week. He is not going to 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: be activated, although JG said LJ has looked good in 138 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: the practices this week. And Trey Benson, who we have 139 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: not seen on the practice field for the better part 140 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: of a week going back to last week, will not 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: be activated. The window does close for him to be 142 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: added to the fifty three man roster next Wednesday. There 143 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: is a potential that he does get added to the 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: active roster but still not quite ready to play. There 145 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: is that opportunity, but again we can discuss that next. 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: But no Marvin, no, Greg dortsch Noll all of a sudden, 147 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room. Yes, Michael Wilson, Andre Bachelli, Xavier Weaver, 148 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: who's returning kicks, who's returning punts. It's gonna be a 149 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: tough one against a Rams team that is very very 150 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: good offensive league and defensive. 151 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: Just because you mentioned the injury report, Xavier Weaver popped 152 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 3: up on the injury report. 153 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 4: That's yeah, a DeMint participant with. 154 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: The hamstring injury, which makes Friday's practice very important. We're 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: recording this before Friday's practice. If Xavier Weaver's not out there, 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: or if he is still out there and it's still 157 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: in a limited capacity. That changes a lot because outside 158 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: of Michael Wilson and Andre Bichelli, you don't really have 159 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: a lot of healthy wide receivers now in that room. 160 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 4: So it's gonna it's gonna be a very busy day. 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: I think this is the the week that fantasy football 162 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: users that have Michael Wilson they could cheer a little 163 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: bit because they're about to be going into their fantasy playoffs. 164 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: This might be for a team that's on the bubble currently. 165 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm in last place and I have Michael Wilson on 166 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: my team, so I'm preparing to start Mike Wilson to 167 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: make sure I don't come in last place. We will 168 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: see about that and how that one ends up working 169 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: itself out. But this is the week that Michael Wilson. 170 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: You saw how strong he was at three hundred and 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: three receiving yards over the two games when he was 172 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: wide receiver one, and how that was able to happen 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: in those in those games. Then Marvin comes back, Michael 174 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: Wilson kind of goes back into that little bit of 175 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: that third option role here. He could be wide receiver 176 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: one once again. So I'm very interested to see what 177 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: the stat line is gonna be and who else is 178 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: going to be receiving the football. 179 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: On the Marvin Harrison injury, the heel issue that he's experiencing, 180 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: and we get it, it was a tough watch to 181 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: see Marvin deal with that in real time Sunday in 182 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Tried to play through it, exited, came back exited, 183 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: did not finish the game. And we have seen him 184 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: around the locker room this week and he's got nothing 185 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: on that I would see that there's an issue. But again, 186 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: is he moving well? I mean, it's a football player 187 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: going into week fourteen, He's banged up, just like everyone 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: else is banged up. But whether or not it's you 189 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: can compare what he is dealing with with what Max 190 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: Melton is dealing with another heel issue. JG did mention 191 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: that they're a little bit different. So again Max is 192 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna miss another game. That's two in a row, correct, yep, 193 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: So this would be one for Marvin. So again, how 194 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: long you're out, who knows. But you just don't want 195 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: to see, especially these young players and you look at 196 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: the list, especially without Walter Nolan, you want to see Marvin. 197 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: You want to see Walter, you want to see these 198 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: young players a rabbit out on the football because you've 199 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: got five opportunities here to figure out who you want 200 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty six. 201 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the names of the players that are 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: not going to be playing, Trey Benson second year guy, rabbit, 203 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: Taylor Demerson, second year guy, Max Mellon second year guy, 204 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison junior, second year guy, and then you have 205 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: Walt obviously. So it's it's been very tough. This team 206 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: has been snake been by injuries, especially those young players. 207 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: It's been a very challenging thing to see. With Marvin's injury, 208 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: it's a heal, Bruce, I'm pretty sure, is what Johnathanganna 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: referred to it as. So you don't really have It's 210 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: not like you can really bandage up a bruise in 211 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: a lot of ways. I'm not no doctor, but I 212 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: don't think that that's something you're able to do. 213 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 4: And even if you are. 214 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: The pressure you're putting, the way that they receivers what 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 3: they're get off from the line of scrimmage, you need 216 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: to be able to move with one hundred percent comfortability. 217 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: Similar with Kyler Murray and his foot injury. You need 218 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: to be able to move around with one hundred percent 219 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: feeling comfortable to the best of your ability. Recognizing that 220 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: you are in week fourteen of an NFL season, it's 221 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 3: a shame. It's something that this team is definitely need 222 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on as the weeks go on, 223 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: because you're at a point of the season where if 224 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: Marvin's injury or Max Melon's injury, Trey Benson, if it 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: doesn't heal up in the next two to three weeks, 226 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 3: you only have five games left, So it's like, how 227 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: do you manage what the rest of the season is 228 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: going to look like? Johnathangan and he said, when you 229 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: go up into the into his building, you feel for 230 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: the guys, when you go up to the lock, when 231 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 3: you go up to his office, you feel for the guys. 232 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: But he said, we're in the business to come up 233 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 3: with solutions, not add to the problems. So JG and 234 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: company are going to need to be making a lot 235 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: of solutions trying to figure it all out. 236 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the wid excuse me, I'm looking at 237 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room right now and looking specifically at 238 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: the practice squad and maybe Zach. We should have gotten 239 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: an inkling that something was up when this week Bryce 240 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: and Green was resigned to the practice squad. You also 241 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: have Jalen Brooks, Tajon Palmer, and let's not forget about 242 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: veteran Trent Sherfield potentially being one of those players that 243 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: either gets signed depending on what moves are made between 244 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: now and game day, or elevated to the active roster 245 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: so you're available on game day. Because right now, the 246 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: only healthy bodies in that room Michael Wilson and Andrea Bachelli. 247 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: That's it as far as dealing with something. Those two 248 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: haven't shown up on the injury report. Knock on wood 249 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: here on Friday, Well. 250 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm expecting to see a lot 251 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: of Elijah Higgins getting the rock. We know that Elijah 252 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: Higgins started his football time in the NFL as a 253 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: wide receiver before he moved inside, gained some weight and 254 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 3: became and was converted to becoming a tight end. When 255 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: he was at Stanford with Michael Wilson, the two of 256 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: them were wide receivers in the same wide receiver room. 257 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: You also have to realize, you know, speaking of Stanford, 258 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: Simmy Feyjoko has also been done for the season. So 259 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: this room has taken its hits. It's fair share of hits. 260 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: When it comes to the injuries, I'm expecting to see 261 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: a lot of Elijah Higgins, a lot of Trey McBride, 262 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: a lot of Mike Wilson, and depending on who's going 263 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: to be healthy, Andre Bichelli or Xavier Weaver. But at 264 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: the end of the day, Jacoby Brissett, you have to 265 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: hope that you you have to strike fast and early 266 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: in this game because if you fall behind like you 267 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: have in the previous couple weeks and you're forced to 268 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: be in known passing situations all throughout the game, it's 269 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: not going to be easy for the new QB one. 270 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: No, it is certainly not. Let's talk more about this 271 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: Rams team. As I mentioned off the top, Zach and 272 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: I had the chance to speak with Stu Jackson, senior 273 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: staff rider for the Rams dot Com. Here now is 274 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: our conversation. So it's been a little while, Stu, I'd 275 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: ask how you're doing, but you're covering a nine and 276 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: three football team, so I'm get seing all is good 277 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: there in Los Angeles. 278 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly makes things a little bit easier you know, 279 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: better when it's obviously a six game win stream versus 280 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: a you know, a tough and challenging loss like last week. 281 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 5: But you know, like you mentioned, nine to three, that's 282 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: still a pretty good place to be. So, all things considered, 283 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 5: great spot to be at the. 284 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: Loss last week at Carolina. Bad day to have a 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: bad game? Was there something more? 286 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think it was more of just the former, 287 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: a bad day to have a bad game. I mean, 288 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 5: any anytime you have you know, rainy weather like that 289 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: that can always you know, throw a wrench in the 290 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 5: game plan. And really just a lot of uncharacteristic performances. 291 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: I mean, this is something I wrote about. But like 292 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford, who was just named NFC Offensive Player of 293 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: the Month for November, I mean he he had three turnovers, 294 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 5: two of those which were interceptions after you know, going well, 295 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 5: I think it was like twenty eight straight NFL record 296 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: passing touchdowns before he threw a pick. And so you know, 297 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: just between that and you know, in an unusual day 298 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: by the run, defensive standards one that's been you know, 299 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 5: pretty consistently near the top with how they performed. It 300 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: was just an odd game all around with again like 301 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: Sean McVay said, just doing some things that they normally 302 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: don't do, especially when they're in the midst of that 303 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: six game win streak, and so lots of things that 304 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 5: are easily correctable, I think, and easy to move on from. 305 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 5: But again, just kind of a weird game all around, 306 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 5: like I said, with some of the things that normally 307 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: have gone their way that ultimately did not. 308 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: Last Sunday, Yeah, great piece on the rams dot com 309 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: that you wrote about how they feel that they're capable 310 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: of bouncing back from defeats like they suffered earlier on 311 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: in the season. But you mentioned QB one Matthew Stafford. 312 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if the cloning process just worked the 313 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: perfection during the offseason or what kind of went into it, 314 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: but he's playing at an MVP level considering all the 315 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: news that was going on during the off season. Just 316 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: how impressive is it that you're now going into week 317 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: fourteen and Matthew Stafford in the conversation with the second 318 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: year player right now truthfully to be the MVP of 319 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: the league. 320 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really impressive. I mean, look, it's you know, 321 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: he's somebody that always wants to be out there and 322 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: he would tell you that he was just as frustrated 323 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 5: as anybody that he had to miss time in training 324 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: camp with that that back injury, and obviously that played 325 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: a part in, you know, why it took him and 326 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 5: Devonte Adams to get on the same page at least 327 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: at the start of the season. But obviously that connection 328 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 5: is clicking right now. But you know, it's a credit 329 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 5: to you know, Stafford to that connection obviously, and and 330 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: really just everybody around him in this offense's identity. I mean, 331 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: I think Sean McVay is doing a really great job 332 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: of calling these games, and you know, obviously Stafford has 333 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: the experience to know what he's looking at, what he's 334 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 5: seeing out there in terms of coverages and defensive fronts 335 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: and the like. But it feels like those two are 336 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 5: really in sync, and it's a good balance where you know, 337 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: Stafford doesn't necessarily have to be superman on every down. 338 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 5: He just needs to kind of play within the offense 339 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: and and you know, within you know, what he and 340 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: McVeigh are collaborating on in order to you know, have success, 341 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 5: you know, individually and as a team, especially with the 342 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 5: way they've kind of evolved. This offense's identity and so 343 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: again very much a credit to him and the way 344 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 5: he's played individually, but certainly has as much to do with, 345 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: you know, the parts around him and the way that 346 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 5: Sean mcvays put him in a position to succeed. 347 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: To this point, you mentioned DeVante Adams, the pairing with 348 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: him and Puka Nakua. We spoke in the off season 349 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: about that change at wide receiver. Cooper Cup gets released, 350 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: DeVante gets signed. The mix or the the chemistry, not 351 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: quarterback to wide receiver, but the wide receiver specifically. How 352 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: has DeVante helped Puka and in reverse? 353 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is it's taking some 354 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 5: They both take attention off of each other, so you know, 355 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 5: that opens up more opportunities, you know, moving the ball 356 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 5: down the field to get the ball to Puka and 357 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: then obviously when they get to the they get to 358 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 5: the red zone. That's really but what has been Davante's 359 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 5: bread and butter. And it was funny, you know, we noticed, 360 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: I think it was during training camp that after Puka 361 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: had been leading the individual drills for the wide receivers, 362 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: suddenly DeVante started doing it. And it was actually because 363 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 5: Puka asked him to because every time he was running 364 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: those routes, he would be whipping his head around to 365 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 5: watch Davante do it, and so that made things a 366 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: little bit easier. But it's been a really good working 367 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: relationship and there's a lot of things that you know, 368 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 5: Puca's picked up on from Davante in terms of, you know, 369 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: some technical things with his release and whatnot that have 370 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 5: really helped him. And you know, likewise, you know, Davante's 371 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 5: really been energized by just Puka and his style of 372 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 5: play and his personality and really the personality of that 373 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 5: young wide receiver room as a whole. So overall, it's 374 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 5: been a really really great partnership, you know, founded in 375 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 5: mutual respect and you know one that you know, both 376 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 5: guys are really happy to see the other succeed. 377 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 3: We know Sean McVay is one of the brightest minds 378 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 3: out there now that you have because you hit on 379 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 3: it a little bit in the article that I that 380 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier about the thirteen personnel usage with the 381 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: development of Terrence Ferguson, how has that potentially opened up 382 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 3: the playbook for Sean McVay. 383 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's opened it up quite a bit, I think 384 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 5: I mean, the the biggest example is you know, the 385 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: mismatches that that's created, especially in the red zone. I 386 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 5: mean you look at all the majority I would say 387 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 5: Devonte Adams touchdowns. I mean he's had a couple, like 388 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 5: two or three I think I have been on go balls, 389 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 5: but most of them have been you know, inside the 390 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 5: five in those personnel formations or packages where Okay, if 391 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 5: you double Davante, you've got three other tight ends on 392 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 5: the field that are just as capable of catching a 393 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 5: touchdown for Matthew Stafford. But then if you you know, 394 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: try to match up to that, you know, match your 395 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 5: personnel to that based on the tight ends that are 396 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: out there, and you leave Devonte one on one. He's 397 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: been winning those pretty match ups pretty consistently. And so 398 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: you know, that's been the biggest thing is it's it's 399 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 5: been a development because of the death at the position 400 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 5: and Ferguson showing an ability to stretch, stretch the field 401 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 5: like he did a little bit in the preseason finale 402 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 5: and like he has at times this year. But it's 403 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 5: also you know, been because of, like I said, just 404 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 5: the depth and experience they have there and and now 405 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 5: that you know Ferguson is getting more comfortable. That's something 406 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 5: they've been able to implement more around this time of 407 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: the season compared to you know, the beginning of the season. 408 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 5: So it's it's been really interesting to see that develop 409 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 5: and become a part of this offense's identity and he 410 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 5: and it was so much so that you know, it 411 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 5: took a little bit of a death. I think it 412 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: was two weeks ago and after Tyler Higbee got hurt, 413 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 5: and so that's kind of what prompted, you know, the 414 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 5: signing of Nick Vinett off the Vikings practice squad so 415 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: that they could have four tight ends up again last 416 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: week to be able to use that more. But anyway, 417 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: it's a long winded answer, but there's just a lot 418 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 5: of things that have gone into it that have made it, 419 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 5: you know, really indispensable for Rams. 420 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: To this point, it's been a very prolific passing offense. 421 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: The run game I think has kind of gotten overshadowed 422 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: though last week it was very good. But the again 423 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: talking about the wide receiver pairing, but now the running 424 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: back pairing with Kyrien Williams and Blake Krum. Would you 425 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: is it still a pass first offense or is it 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: the ability of the run game to keep defenses honest 427 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: that has opened up things for Puka and DeVante and 428 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: everyone else. 429 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of both. I think 430 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: when when they've been able to lean on the run 431 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 5: game because of how efficient, because of that efficiency, they 432 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: that's something that's the direction and they've been able to go. 433 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 5: On the other hand, when Matthew Stafford's been you know, 434 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: playing whites out, when he's been throwing the ball, they've 435 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: you know, put that you know on his shoulders as well, 436 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 5: and so you know, the efficiency certainly helps with you know, 437 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: less third and longs and things of that nature, and 438 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 5: known passing situations where you know, the defense sid lines 439 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: or pass opposing pass rushes, rushes have a chance to 440 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 5: tee off on on on Stafford in the passing attack. 441 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: But there's also a respect for the arm talent too, 442 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 5: where you know, if if you if you try to 443 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 5: play the play the run like that'll you know, there's 444 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: a chance that Stafford cann audible into something and take 445 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: advantage of that. And so it's it's it's gone both ways, 446 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: I think, where you know, because of especially kind of 447 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: like I talked about with the development of Terrence Ferguson. 448 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 5: I think the development of Blake Korum this year has 449 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 5: been a big reason why they've been much more efficient 450 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 5: in terms of you know, Kyrien's had some of those 451 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 5: explosive runs too, but they've been able to have two 452 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: guys that they can really lean on, you know when, 453 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 5: especially in times when the passing attack maybe isn't working 454 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: as it normally does. 455 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: Flipping over to defensive side of the ball. Just how 456 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: much of a home run signing was Nate Laman to 457 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: sign him to a one year deal and then obviously 458 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: after that, within the last few weeks to sign him 459 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: to that three year contract extension. Just what makes him 460 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: worthy of that sort of deal. 461 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 5: I think it's the way that he authentically gained the 462 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 5: respects and appreciation from his teammates. It wasn't just I mean, 463 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 5: obviously a big story was the turnovers he was creating 464 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: with those you know, peanut punch forced fumbles, especially in 465 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 5: training camp, but even going back to the spring, you know, 466 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: coaches and players talk about just you know, how he 467 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 5: authentically leads and picks and chooses his leadership style or 468 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 5: the way he approaches guys based on you know, how 469 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 5: he knows those teammates and you know what they're receptive too, 470 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 5: and so it was especially telling, I think when he 471 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 5: was voted a team captain having only been here for 472 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 5: you know, probably six months, five six months by that point, 473 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 5: right before the start of the regular season, and so 474 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 5: in every step of the way and every facet, whether 475 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: it was on or off the field, it was something 476 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 5: that was genuinely, authentically earned. And obviously his play has 477 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 5: backed it up too, because he's he's approaching he's like 478 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: five away from setting a career high until tackles for 479 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 5: a season, and so you know, he's backed it up 480 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 5: with just who he is as a teammate and also 481 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 5: just the way he's performed on the field too. 482 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: This matchup Cardinals and Rams has always kind of been 483 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: talked about, Okay, how do the Cardinals and maybe this 484 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: is across the league, but how do teams handle Aaron Donald? Okay, 485 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: well he's in retirement. Yet now we're talking about not 486 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: just maybe one player, but a handful of players on 487 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: that defensive front. And it's a real of credit to 488 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: that Rams front office for bringing in a bunch of 489 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: young players. I'm very impressed by what everyone has done 490 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: whether at year one, year two, or year three, because 491 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: the numbers are backing up the play on the field. 492 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: So just how impressed has that RAMS defense been overall 493 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: when you're looking at Kobe Turner, Brayden Fists, Spyron Young, 494 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: Jaron Vers along that front. 495 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 5: Seven, Yeah, it's been very impressive. And the biggest difference 496 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 5: with that group compared to last year, I would say too, 497 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 5: is this is something I've asked all the time those 498 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 5: guys about throughout, you know, this offseason and this season itself, 499 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: but just learning how to rush off of one another 500 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 5: and knowing when their ops are in those pass rushing 501 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 5: situation has been the biggest difference. And so that's I 502 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: would say, part of the reason why Byron Young has 503 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 5: ten sacks this season and is played as well as 504 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 5: he has. Even though you know Jared Burst doesn't have 505 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 5: the same number of sacks this year, He's still been 506 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 5: generating a ton of pressures and you know, consistently causing 507 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 5: havoc opposite Young at that edge rusher position, and so 508 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 5: and then obviously when you have you know, Puna Ford 509 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 5: in there with Braden Fisk and Kobe Turner, Uh, those 510 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 5: guys have all jailed really well together. So again it 511 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 5: comes down to just knowing when there, when their ops are, 512 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 5: when when those known passing pass rush opportunities are are there, 513 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: and just being an unselfish group and you know, not 514 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: not caring who gets the creditor or who gets the 515 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: sack necessarily, just so long as they're they're all affecting 516 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 5: the quarterbacking contributing to the win. 517 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: Number two, scoring defense, number two in the red zone 518 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: top ten, and rushing yards per play and passing yards 519 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: per play allowed. I know, by the way, the third 520 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: most takeaways in the league as well. That's what the 521 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals are up against on Sunday. 522 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: Stu. 523 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: Again, as I say every time we speak, best of 524 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: luck after Sunday. But it'll be good to see you 525 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: guys coming to town on Sunday afternoon. 526 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 3: And then when Week eighteen comes back around, No tell ye, 527 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: it'll be much more of the same. 528 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: That's right. 529 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 5: Well. I appreciate you guys as always for having me 530 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 5: on great talking to you and looking forward to seeing 531 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: you on Sunday. 532 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with Stu if you want 533 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: to follow him on Sunday or the rest of the season. 534 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: Don't forget the Cardinals do play the Rams again in 535 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: week eighteen, he's at STU Jay Rams does a good job, 536 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: great job for the Rams dot com and how we 537 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: finished that conversation, Zach. Again, the numbers are ridiculous when 538 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: you talk about that Rams front seven, Kobe Turner, Braden Fists, 539 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: Byron Young, Jared versus those four, just those four alone 540 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: twenty nine plus pressures. They each have at least twenty 541 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: nine pressures this season, and they have combined for twenty 542 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: one and a half sacks. And you talk about young players, 543 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: that's a young front seven that has really elevated their 544 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: game in the absence as they talked about it of 545 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: number ninety nine, Aaron Donald. 546 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane, it's insane what they've been able to do. 547 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: That defensive front is one of the top guys to 548 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: one of the top in the league just because of 549 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: their ability to just do it week in and weak out. 550 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 3: And it's like you right off the stats there, it's 551 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: not just one guy. When you thought about that Rams 552 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: defensive front, you knew it was Aaron Donald. Everybody else 553 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: benefited from Aaron Donald's presence. These guys are all benefiting 554 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: from one another. So it's fascinating to see with ease 555 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: how quickly they're able to get to the quarterback and 556 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: generate those pressures and have no issues bringing down the guys. Look, 557 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: this is a reason why this Rams team leads the 558 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: NFC West. It's one of the top teams in the 559 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: NFL right now. There is a reason why they were 560 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: deep into the playoffs this past year. Even with most 561 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 3: of these guys being first year of players, they continue 562 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: to improve. It's a very strong defensive front, a very 563 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 3: bright future for that defensive front, which I know certainly 564 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 3: causes concern for a lot of the guys in this 565 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: building because you have to get accustomed to facing these 566 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: guys now twice a year, but for this team specifically 567 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: twice in the next five weeks. 568 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Top ten in Sex and what we hope to see 569 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: happen on Sunday is the return of Amrio deMercado, who's 570 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: been limited this week with an ankle, has not played 571 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: the previous two weeks. And that's always been someone talking 572 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: about Amari. When you talk about a team that is 573 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: capable of providing that pressure getting to the quarterback, especially 574 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: on known pass situations, Amari is among the running backs 575 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: your best pass blocking pass protection in that room, so 576 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: hopefully you get some help there. Otherwise, again, a lot 577 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: of it's going to fall on the offensive line. When 578 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: you're one on one matchups, you might not get a 579 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: whole lot of help, especially on the outside. But can 580 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: you keep a Kobe, a Braid and the Buyer and 581 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: a Jared Away out of the face of Jacoby Brissett 582 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: so he has some time to target Michael or Trey 583 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: or whomever else is going to be out in that pattern. 584 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I spoke with Jacoby Brissett and I asked Jacoby about, 585 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: you know how valuable it is to have a guy 586 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: like Amario de Mericado back out there, and he was 587 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: simply talking about just like the pressure that is off 588 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: of his shoulders because you have that, you know, that 589 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: comfortability from the guys that you know are able to 590 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: step up. It's it's not easy for a five foot 591 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: ten running back to step up and try to block 592 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: a Braid and Fisk. But that extra half a second, 593 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: extra second in the pocket that amar Demricado does a 594 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: really solid job of holding up a lot of these 595 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: defensive front players gives Jacoby Brissett the opportunity to look 596 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 3: between some of his reads. It's certainly going to be 597 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: beneficial having number thirty one out there if he is 598 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: healthy enough to make his return. I think Bam Knight 599 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: and Mike Carter have done a really solid job in 600 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: place of Amari de Mericado. It wasn't to the way 601 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: that he was missed in the game against the Green 602 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: Bay Packers where Micah Parsons kind of had his way. 603 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: So the guys Bam Knight, Mike Carter have done a 604 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: really solid job since then. They've learned a lot since 605 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: that game against Green Bay, but there's not any replacing 606 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: when it comes to your top blocking running back. 607 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals, can they run the ball against this Rams defense? 608 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: And Stu mentioned that it has been a solid run defense. 609 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: Last week against the Panthers, though the Rams allowed one 610 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four yards on the ground, second most 611 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: they've allowed all in a game all season. So with 612 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: a Amari joining the ranks, can you again, you're not 613 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: going to run for one hundred plus yards one hundred 614 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: and fifty plus yards. I wouldn't think so, because what 615 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: we've seen is Jacobe dropped back forty plus times and 616 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: more success as far as gaining yards. That's when you 617 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: have wide receivers and that's yes. So at this point, again, 618 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: this team needs a win. However it happens, especially at home, 619 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: especially in the division, you don't want to fall further 620 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: back of the Rams, Seahawks and forty nine Ers. So yeah, 621 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: it's as we as we talked about, the challenge is 622 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: very real. We heard it from Jonathan Gannon, Drew Petsing, 623 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: Nick Ralis, the players as well. It's the biggest challenge 624 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: to date when you talk about what this Rams team 625 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: can do on both sides of the ball. 626 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: Both sides because what Sean McVay is able to do 627 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: from the offensive standpoint, which we talked a ton about 628 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: with stew They're a very good team. As I said 629 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: just a few seconds ago, there's a reason why they're 630 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: the leaders in this division and they continue to be 631 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: playing at such a an elite level. And it's always 632 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: funny because the back end of the season is typically 633 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: when the Rams start to heat up, but they've been 634 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: hot all year long. So this is something I asked 635 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: boot A Baker in the locker room. When you look 636 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: at the season like it is right now, how do 637 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: you still find a way to make these division games 638 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: mean more? And he talked about just the competitiveness that 639 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: you see them twice a year. There's that kind of 640 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: that rivalry aspect to think there's a lot of history 641 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: between these two teams. It's something that if the Cardinals 642 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: are able to get it done, no matter how it's done. 643 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 4: JG. 644 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 3: I think earlier in the week or Drew Pets and 645 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: somebody made the comment that it really is the cliche 646 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: of score one more point than the opponent, no matter 647 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: how it's done. The Rams have had a lot of 648 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: problems on special teams in the last handful of months. 649 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: They start to clean it up a little bit in 650 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: the last two three weeks. But if you're able to 651 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: capitalize on any of the three phases, you have to 652 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: do what you can't to try to get a victory. 653 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: Cardinals three and nine, Rams nine and three. Before we 654 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: head out of here and get ready for the rest 655 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: of week fourteen on Sunday, do want to give face 656 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: to face your props here on Cardinals cover two. Danny 657 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: and I talked to it on Wednesday's show, and I 658 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: know the reaction not only in the building but out 659 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: of the building has been very very good. Outstanding job 660 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: by you on the Jacoby Brissett mental health story on 661 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: Azcardinals dot com. First and foremost props to Jacoby for 662 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: bringing it up unprompted in a press conference setting and 663 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: then be willing to discuss it with you even further 664 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: off to the side where you can go more in 665 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: depth and feel comfortable. But feeling comfortable about talking about 666 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: what he went through and hopefully it resonates with others, 667 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: because that's why you do these things. Speak to someone 668 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: like you, Zak, and then put it online to allow 669 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: others to say, Hey, you're not by yourself. Others are 670 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: dealing maybe the same thing or something similar, and it's 671 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: okay to ask for help. 672 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. It's a I can't 673 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: do that story without Jacoby's willingness to speak. I can't 674 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: do that story without Jonathan Gannon being willing to sit 675 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: down with me for you know, twenty minute's to talk 676 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: one on one to talk about, you know, the pressures 677 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: that a quarterback might be facing from his seat as 678 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: the leader of this team out here. I'm just I'm thankful. 679 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: I'm thankful that Jacoby felt comfortable, willing and trusting, was 680 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: willing to trust me. To share his story, and I've 681 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: been very fortunate. I think the benefit from all of 682 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 3: this so far, as you mentioned, has been the response. Obviously, 683 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm appreciative to get the compliments and stuff like that. 684 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily me, but what's good is seeing other 685 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: people being like, huh, this made me reach out to 686 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 3: somebody else. And that's exactly was Jacoby's message. The first 687 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: thing I asked him when I said, thanks for being 688 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: willing to speak to me, But I got to ask 689 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: you why, Like why are you willing to speak to 690 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 3: me about it? He's like because I didn't. He's like, 691 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: because I thought I was the only one, and I 692 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 3: wish I knew other people were going through other things. 693 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 3: And when you read that, you could be like, okay, 694 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 3: like why does this guy also want other people to 695 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: be like going through stuff? But he obviously doesn't mean 696 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: in that way. He just wishes that he knew that 697 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 3: other people can relate to some of the stuff he 698 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: was experiencing and feeling. And then his last sentence to 699 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 3: me was, if there's one if there's one person or 700 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: anybody out there that's listening to this that can lean 701 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: into my story and could ask for help like that's 702 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: what it's all about. So I haven't been able to 703 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 3: see Jacoby since the story has been posted, but I'm 704 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: sure he'd be thrilled to know that a lot of 705 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 3: people have been benefiting from this. 706 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: Well done on your part and a powerful visual as 707 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: you read the opening paragraphs on easycardinals dot com because 708 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: you can picture. And I don't want to say too 709 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: much because I think it's better when you read it 710 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: as opposed to hear it. But you were able to 711 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: capture through words on a piece of paper or on 712 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: your laptop or whatever, something that is difficult to put 713 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: yourself into and understand that, Okay, maybe things aren't going 714 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: right for me, I need to do something to help 715 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: myself better myself and take care of yourself. And I 716 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: think that's again what we all want for one another, 717 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: whether you're dealing with it, but everyone knows someone that 718 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: might be going through it themselves, and again it's okay 719 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: to ask for help. 720 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: I think to not spoil it too much because I 721 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: agree with what you're saying. I think to compliment myself 722 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: and get myself a pat on the back. I'm very 723 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: happy with the way I was able to kind of 724 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 3: put into a perspective and paint that picture a little 725 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: bit through words. But I'll just say this, it was 726 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 3: a life changing day for Jacoby for the complete opposite 727 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: reason that he entered the day thinking it was going 728 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 3: to be and it ended up being a life changing day, 729 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: just not for what he was expecting. 730 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: All Right, enough with the compliments here of Zach Gershman, 731 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: and I'll. 732 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: Just go right back to exactly what we're used to. 733 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: Out and about on Sunday pregame once again, or you 734 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: just kind of going straight to work. 735 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: Straight to straight to work. We got our time out 736 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: on the Great Lawn. It was awesome meeting so many 737 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 3: of the fans, members of the bird gang. But picture 738 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 3: again side early, there's gonna be a lot of amazing things. 739 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 4: There's amazing things that are going. 740 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: To be going on, a bunch of Legends that are 741 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: gonna be in attendance, So make sure to get out 742 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: to State Farm Stadium, get inside the stadium early, celebrate 743 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 3: with the guys, and hopefully cheer the Cardinals onto a victory. 744 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: It is Legends Weekend. Cardinals and Rams is the matchup again. 745 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: Two twenty five is the kickoff nine to thirty pregame 746 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: Covers begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, and on 747 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition 748 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by a Hundai, proud partner 749 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our 750 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: executive producer jim On Mohundra, our associate producer Cody Fincher. 751 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: For Zach Gershman, I'm Craig Rayolou. We'll talk to you 752 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.