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Speaker 4: Where the where's the applause? Let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go. It's time, It's go time.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: It is first distractice full practice of the week.
Speaker 3: Okay, because they did Okay, so let's get the player's schedule.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: They were here on Monday after a three day weekend,
Speaker 3: and then they had to take another day off yesterday, right,
Speaker 3: and so that's why it's a back to work Wednesday
Speaker 3: to day right.
Speaker 5: Correct, Juggling up the schedule, change things up.
Speaker 3: When you get the three day you got to go
Speaker 3: back to your college alma mater and go to their
Speaker 3: first game of the year on Saturday, or in case
Speaker 3: of Michael Parsons, you go down to Texas to their game.
Speaker 3: Is that where he was yep, de Marvin was down there,
Speaker 3: I think too. And so then you get your three
Speaker 3: day weekend, which is your last weekend before the grind starts.
Speaker 5: You go to Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: No, no, and so then you're back to work on Monday,
Speaker 3: Labor Day. But because you worked the holiday, it's a
Speaker 3: little later start Tuesday, and so now here we are
Speaker 3: it's game week officially, a little later.
Speaker 5: Start to practice. What's going on with that twelve twenty Yeah.
Speaker 3: Later McCarthy press conference can't just wrapped up.
Speaker 5: They had meetings and stuff, I guess, so they changed
Speaker 5: it up. It's the definition of insanity, right, doing the
Speaker 5: same thing time you get the same results.
Speaker 4: So practice all the time.
Speaker 5: He's changing it up.
Speaker 4: So the practice all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we practiced over and over again.
Speaker 3: But it's an indoor practice today, I.
Speaker 5: Would imagine it's still raining, so we're getting we're getting
Speaker 5: water coming down into the ground instead of coming up
Speaker 5: out of the grounds.
Speaker 4: As opposed to you know, a sprinklessness. Yes, you're talking
Speaker 4: about Hey, So.
Speaker 6: That's why this is why I got it right, because
Speaker 6: I just the time I've seen it rain since July
Speaker 6: whenever we left for training camp.
Speaker 3: Although it rained so much the first half of the
Speaker 3: year that the grass didn't even turn brown.
Speaker 5: This year, Oh yes, it did. Come come with me.
Speaker 4: Live yeah, okay, okay, you live out in the country.
Speaker 4: We don't get in.
Speaker 3: You have to have a major sprinkling.
Speaker 5: We didn't even get the rain at the beginning end
Speaker 5: of last week.
Speaker 3: All right, But so here we are. Brown's Week has
Speaker 3: now officially begun because they're back to work on this Wednesday.
Speaker 3: It's just heard Mike McCarthy set the tone and set
Speaker 3: the theme for the entire season, right.
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 5: And the theme this year is rooted that you've established
Speaker 5: a foundation and now it's time to grow. And he
Speaker 5: explained that, let me make sure.
Speaker 4: I get this quote here.
Speaker 5: Yeah that uh, it's like there's there's always a fifth
Speaker 5: year window.
Speaker 3: And what happened to his fifth year in Green Bay?
Speaker 5: They won a Super Bowl?
Speaker 4: Did you know that?
Speaker 5: And so he said that things happened in five year increments,
Speaker 5: and I guess that happened in Green Bay, he said.
Speaker 5: He said that he didn't appreciate it because his dad
Speaker 5: used to preach that about five years until he had
Speaker 5: his own kids that don't listen to him.
Speaker 3: That interesting, you know, you need kind of five years.
Speaker 5: And then when we did the walk off, he mentioned
Speaker 5: and I forgot how to pronounce the tree, but it
Speaker 5: was a Chinese bamboo tree that you water for four
Speaker 5: years and it doesn't grow, and then the fifth year
Speaker 5: it grows eighty feet.
Speaker 4: What that's what he said.
Speaker 3: It's amazing how bamboo can grow like all of a sudden.
Speaker 7: I know, forget the cowboys. I did not know this.
Speaker 7: That's amazing.
Speaker 5: And there was a name. It starts with disease Zurich, Zurich.
Speaker 4: I don't know what.
Speaker 5: I can't He wouldn't spell it for.
Speaker 7: Us, so I'm sure that the the bamboo uh Chinese
Speaker 7: person was like, man, I just messed up.
Speaker 4: I just lost all my bound.
Speaker 5: So when we walked when we walked back from the.
Speaker 4: Lock later, he's inundated with bamboos.
Speaker 5: When we walked back from the locker room. The little
Speaker 5: place last year where they had the display up on
Speaker 5: the upper concourse with the cart d M. That was
Speaker 5: the theme last year, sees everything right. They seized almost every.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything doing the regular season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, and so I would imagine we're going to
Speaker 5: see some bamboo trees up there this time.
Speaker 4: Now, you know, Jimmy had a five year thing here
Speaker 4: is that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a five year plan for every place.
Speaker 5: He was right darting at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: But it was his eighty fourth year the Cowboys won
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and his fifth year. Yeah for Jimmy,
Speaker 3: but he was out ever stayed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he was out after five after Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so the idea on this though, is so.
Speaker 7: Jimmy is like Jimmy is like a bamboo tree. He comes,
Speaker 7: he's out in five.
Speaker 5: Years, went to Miami. He's gone five years, the Cowboys
Speaker 5: five years.
Speaker 3: But the winds came before the fifth year and the
Speaker 3: winning of the championship.
Speaker 4: It came the fourth year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, so okay, now everyone's going to be
Speaker 3: giggling Chinese bamboo.
Speaker 4: Trying to figure this out.
Speaker 3: The Zurich tree is one of the most common trees.
Speaker 7: That's the one that's the tree that's it.
Speaker 5: Then I think, well, I don't know, Well, it started.
Speaker 4: With a z we had.
Speaker 7: We had a neighbor in Hamilton Park had bamboo bamboo trees.
Speaker 4: The bamboo stuff up there.
Speaker 7: Really, I don't know if it was the same bamboo,
Speaker 7: but that was they had a bamboo tree, bamboo plant
Speaker 7: or whatever.
Speaker 5: You cut down a stick and try.
Speaker 7: Something. I walked by, I'm like, man, this stuff is.
Speaker 7: It was kind of overgrown as well. So yeah, you
Speaker 7: can do that because.
Speaker 3: They were all five years old.
Speaker 4: I don't think they did. I don't think they knew either.
Speaker 4: The water.
Speaker 7: They talked about some African Americans, you know, just got
Speaker 7: some bamboo in the backyard. I'm pretty sure they don't
Speaker 7: know that whole story.
Speaker 5: So the other headline of the press conference, So the
Speaker 5: Cowboys release has just come out.
Speaker 4: For the first game, okay, okay, yes, And.
Speaker 5: Included in the release is a depth chart, okay, and
Speaker 5: everybody got well not everybody, but some people got excited
Speaker 5: because they saw some things in the depth chart. I
Speaker 5: don't think they thought they were going to see.
Speaker 4: Well, don't tell me Michael Passon's position.
Speaker 5: No, no, guess again, running back, yes, okay, who's the
Speaker 5: first team running back?
Speaker 4: Elliot? Yeah, Okay, that.
Speaker 5: That surprised people. Why, That's what I'm asking.
Speaker 4: Question.
Speaker 5: You watch if you watch how they've been practicing. He
Speaker 5: he he was going majority of the time. He was
Speaker 5: the first one out, So no no shock or anything.
Speaker 5: Zike's the starting running back.
Speaker 3: And then so how was that question answered?
Speaker 5: He basically said he approved the depth chart. Uh huh,
Speaker 5: and that, uh, you know, on offense, it doesn't matter
Speaker 5: who starts because you're going to rotate so many different
Speaker 5: players in and out, and that, uh, it doesn't mean
Speaker 5: who's going to get the most snaps because they're not
Speaker 5: going to play sixty snaps in a game, right, so
Speaker 5: they're still using everybody else. You know, Rico, Dodd all
Speaker 5: have a role, Douce Vono have a role, Hunter Lepke
Speaker 5: could have a role. I could answer the question right now.
Speaker 5: The other one I got asked is that Mazzi Smith
Speaker 5: is listed as the starting nose tackle. Well, that's the
Speaker 5: way they've been playing.
Speaker 3: Lining up their every off season, pre season, training camp,
Speaker 3: everything it's fifty eight is out there.
Speaker 5: So first that was surprising. And then the way I
Speaker 5: treated the linebacker spot was that Eric Kendricks and Damon
Speaker 5: Clark were the starters, and then when they're using the
Speaker 5: third guy, it's a rotation between Leo File and Demarvian Overshown. Well,
Speaker 5: they've got Leo File listed as the starter on defense
Speaker 5: when there's three linebackers. Well that's the way they've been.
Speaker 3: Practiced, so especially since Clark's been out with an injury,
Speaker 3: and was out with an injury too, Leafl was getting
Speaker 3: first team reps alongside Kendricks for weeks.
Speaker 4: So so how big is Leofoul?
Speaker 5: He's bigger than you think. I'm going to guess six
Speaker 5: two two thirty maybe.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's my good you got it right here?
Speaker 3: I do, but I got it right here. That's I
Speaker 3: put so much work into this notebook show book. Six
Speaker 3: two two thirty four the combine. That's not the combine
Speaker 3: number right there? Six two thirty four.
Speaker 5: What do they have on this is six two two
Speaker 5: thirty four?
Speaker 3: Okay, and fluctuated, I said six two. And by the way,
Speaker 3: what was Eric Kendricks.
Speaker 5: At this point in his career? Yes, they've got him
Speaker 5: listed as six foot to thirty two.
Speaker 3: He is six foot and a quarter to thirty two.
Speaker 4: Where was that? What was that from?
Speaker 3: I believe it's from the combine because I got all
Speaker 3: that combine.
Speaker 4: I got combine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he ran a four to six one with
Speaker 3: a one fifty seventy ten yard split. I write him
Speaker 3: all down in my notebook.
Speaker 4: He can't run the four six one anymore, is but.
Speaker 3: This is his starting point. And so when I'm comparing,
Speaker 3: we were talking about insanity.
Speaker 5: That's parry.
Speaker 4: When I'm comparing, you can't go back to combine.
Speaker 3: No, but but he's thirty one, thank you. No, I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that. I'm not saying that's what he is now.
Speaker 3: But when Mike Zimmer draps Marius Leophoul in the third round,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, you know what, I think he sees some
Speaker 3: Merit Kendricks in Marius Leophoul. And so I went back
Speaker 3: and compared what they were at the combine, and Kendricks
Speaker 3: was six foot one quarter inch tall thirty two. Lea
Speaker 3: Foul was six two two thirty four, very similar size.
Speaker 4: Who Si, who were you saying the sign Leafhoul?
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm saying that. That's when when Mike Zimmer
Speaker 3: draps Maris Leafoul in the third round, I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: does he see Eric Kendricks in Leafoul? Okay, when he
Speaker 3: makes that pick, it was.
Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer there when Keatrix came out. Yes, okay, yes.
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you that so how much you
Speaker 5: got down here Lynnville Joseph.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, wait, wait, there's more on this. Okay, the
Speaker 3: similarities coming out of college lea Foul and Kendricks.
Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gave you the height and weight, all right.
Speaker 3: Kendricks ran a four to six one with a one
Speaker 3: fifty seven split. Leafoul a four to sixty four with
Speaker 3: a one to fifty nine split, almost identical. Twenty two
Speaker 3: bench reps for Kendrick. Lea Foul had sixteen bench reps. Oh,
Speaker 3: we gotta get him in the weight room. Uh uh.
Speaker 3: Kendricks had a thirty eight.
Speaker 5: Vertical, which is pretty really good.
Speaker 3: He's really good. And I think, if I can read
Speaker 3: my writing, a thirty six vertical for Leophoul and Kendricks.
Speaker 3: Kendricks ten to four broad jump and Leophoul a nine
Speaker 3: foot and cone drill, okay, which is big for a linebacker.
Speaker 3: Seven fourteen for Kendricks, seven sixteen for Leophoul.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 3: That's that's the method to my mates.
Speaker 4: He had to prove his point. Yeah, right, can we
Speaker 4: move on?
Speaker 3: I asked, when did you have Linnville Joseph down for poundage?
Speaker 5: And I'm sure he's got it somewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah he was.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, he was a late edition.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fifteen.
Speaker 4: You know what later.
Speaker 3: Okay, So on that depth Jart, Yes, on that depth chartsively,
Speaker 3: what stands out to you, because what stands out to
Speaker 3: me is that they on the depth chart, they put
Speaker 3: three starting linebackers.
Speaker 4: Yes, as opposed.
Speaker 3: To what you couldn't There weren't three linebackers on the
Speaker 3: team at the end of the year last year that
Speaker 3: were playing in games. Now you've got three starting linebackers
Speaker 3: listed on the depth.
Speaker 4: Chart, and neither one is Michael Parson's.
Speaker 5: No, he's at defensive end.
Speaker 3: He's a defensive vent and which doesn't mean he's not
Speaker 3: going to line up at linebacker.
Speaker 7: And I'm see this is where I don't agree with
Speaker 7: what's going on.
Speaker 5: That's why the depth chart is insignificant.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's right, that's right. But he approved it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, because I have something that they got to
Speaker 5: have something, right.
Speaker 7: I hope we're not hiding and just masking the same
Speaker 7: thing that we were doing last year.
Speaker 4: So that's that's all I want. I want. I want
Speaker 4: this defense.
Speaker 5: And there's twelve starters on there because they listed in
Speaker 5: Jeordian Lewis starting up.
Speaker 4: You have twelve starters. Just get out of here, man,
Speaker 4: what do we.
Speaker 5: Know when they go to Nickels?
Speaker 4: Well, what are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 8: There?
Speaker 3: Actually should be twelve starters on offense too. They should
Speaker 3: a third wide receiver. Yeah, in case you in case
Speaker 3: you start in eleven personnel. Wait, but play a second.
Speaker 3: But what oh they do have They do have three
Speaker 3: wide receivers.
Speaker 4: So they did.
Speaker 3: So they got Lamb, Tolburt and Cooks and so they're
Speaker 3: starting in eleven. They've tipped their hand. They're starting in
Speaker 3: eleven personnel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they have.
Speaker 5: Is there a full back list?
Speaker 3: There's not a full back listed as a starter. In fact,
Speaker 3: there's not a full back listed. Lipke is listed as
Speaker 3: the third team running running back, Deuce Von the fourth
Speaker 3: team running back.
Speaker 4: All that is propaganda. Uh huh, that's all it is.
Speaker 4: That's all it is.
Speaker 5: Yes, any other disputes on there, dispute the whole paper.
Speaker 5: I should have been here for the press conference.
Speaker 3: Looking at your depth chart. What is the most significant
Speaker 3: thing that has happened to this depth chart or slash roster? Uh?
Speaker 3: Since they reported to Oxnard, California. The most significant thing
Speaker 3: the most significant not maybe not necessarily just one thing,
Speaker 3: but what is the most significant things that have happened
Speaker 3: to the depth.
Speaker 5: Chartron Blands not on it.
Speaker 3: Okay, besides an injury.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, if you're talking more than one thing,
Speaker 7: I was just thinking the one thing and starting center.
Speaker 3: Okay, that emerged. Yeah, okay, we thought that that was
Speaker 3: going to happen, but it did.
Speaker 4: We didn't know what. We didn't know when it was
Speaker 4: going to happen.
Speaker 5: Right by the way, after extensive research, thanks to the
Speaker 5: guys in p R, this is the first time since
Speaker 5: the merger of in nineteen seventy that the Cowboys have
Speaker 5: started two rookies on opening day on the offensive line.
Speaker 5: Tyler Geiton.
Speaker 3: Anderbe.
Speaker 5: No, it's the second time. Sorry, first time was twenty eleven.
Speaker 5: I'll give you Tyron Smith. If you can think of
Speaker 5: who the other rookie started.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, must have been an undrafted guy, Bill Nagy,
Speaker 3: Oh wow, at center, guard, at guard.
Speaker 5: And that was the first of his four game NFL.
Speaker 3: I think here's a seventh round pick.
Speaker 5: Maybe, yeah, he only played four games in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Was he from Wisconsin?
Speaker 4: To look, well, you've got to obviously didn't play well.
Speaker 5: So anyway, they have never other than that, and and
Speaker 5: this year they never I got to look from sixty
Speaker 5: to sixty nine, but they had never started two rookies on.
Speaker 4: The offensive line.
Speaker 5: And McCarthy made it sound like his first year in
Speaker 5: Green Bay, they started to rookie offensive lineman because he
Speaker 5: said they had no other choice.
Speaker 3: All Right, the most most significant things that I think
Speaker 3: have happened for this defense and maybe for maybe for
Speaker 3: the team too. And I'm looking at the when I
Speaker 3: look at this depth chart since the started training camp,
Speaker 3: all the moves they made.
Speaker 5: Oh, I thought you the starters in acquiring free agents
Speaker 5: free agents to providing quality veteran depth, especially on this defense,
Speaker 5: because because as training camp started, I was I was
Speaker 5: telling people, I don't see how they're going to do
Speaker 5: it twenty Well, if you're.
Speaker 3: Talking a twenty one game season, if you're winning a
Speaker 3: Super Bowl with a roster that they had coming into
Speaker 3: training camp and with injuries are going to happen. And
Speaker 3: they didn't make it out of training camp without two
Speaker 3: starters going down with injuries and defensively, and so I
Speaker 3: don't think it was just predicated on Sam Williams going
Speaker 3: down they were going to add veteran guys regardless of
Speaker 3: what they saw. They just had to wait and see
Speaker 3: where the true positions of need would be.
Speaker 7: I think they already knew the positions as well. And
Speaker 7: because the guys that they signed clearly that's made to
Speaker 7: stop up.
Speaker 3: And they knew that there was an inventory of free
Speaker 3: agent guys that were still out there where they didn't
Speaker 3: have to panic. There were enough of them back in
Speaker 3: the spring where they did not have to sign them
Speaker 3: back then, they could wait, see what they've got on
Speaker 3: their roster with young guys, see how they developed through
Speaker 3: the off season and on as training camp starts. And
Speaker 3: now we fill in the needs.
Speaker 4: And filled in the need with very veteran try no.
Speaker 5: Guys that didn't cost a lot, that's right, because they.
Speaker 7: Knew because of what we're talking about that they're going
Speaker 7: to be older veterans that you can bring in to
Speaker 7: help provide some leadership and some girth in the middle.
Speaker 3: But they knew that if you do that in March,
Speaker 3: it's going to cost that, right, and if you wait,
Speaker 3: and there was enough of them. The market was flooded
Speaker 3: enough with free agents to where these issus where you
Speaker 3: can't wait, and there's going to be enough guys out
Speaker 3: there where you bring four edge rushers in for one
Speaker 3: day when Sam Williams gets down, and now you pick
Speaker 3: two of them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that you both thirty six, both thirty six, right,
Speaker 7: thirty six years old.
Speaker 3: No, Joseph is thirty Limville Joseph is the only one
Speaker 3: that he'll be thirty six.
Speaker 5: On thirty one. Okay, but that was a trade. But
Speaker 5: again they brought it same principle a bigger. So you
Speaker 5: got Phillips Joseph, and then.
Speaker 3: Even they even brought in Albert Huggins who didn't make
Speaker 3: the team, right, and then Lawson's on the practice and
Speaker 3: he's primed to get elevated.
Speaker 5: They've got one spot, well, no, they had to have
Speaker 5: one spot of Villa.
Speaker 4: They only got fifty.
Speaker 5: Two CBC commissioners right now, that would be fifty.
Speaker 3: And then also at linebacker the guys they brought in
Speaker 3: at linebacker too, with one of the guys that's we
Speaker 3: talked about the other day vigil on practice squad. And
Speaker 3: then they also brought in Darius Harris from who was
Speaker 3: with Kansas City for four years as another veteran guy.
Speaker 3: And so I thought it was as it, and then
Speaker 3: they they traded. They saw what they had in na
Speaker 3: Shan right, they didn't like what they saw in Nashon right,
Speaker 3: and so they traded eddo Minnesota and brought in Andrew Booth,
Speaker 3: a former second round draft pick who's a backup corner.
Speaker 5: Andrew Booth is interesting.
Speaker 7: Talk to him, What's what's going on with him?
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Speaker 3: As we go along through the show, there are trivia
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Speaker 3: That's why I remember Wisconsin.
Speaker 4: Is because of the big Green notebook.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Now where did we leave off to this
Speaker 3: gambling issue?
Speaker 7: Yes, first of all, let me tell the public, I
Speaker 7: am not a gambler. I'll go to Vegas a lot
Speaker 7: for the shows that don't go for the gambling.
Speaker 4: But they said out the game.
Speaker 9: Training gambling training, and we all have as employees.
Speaker 7: We have to sign this and make sure we're not
Speaker 7: gambling on games and things of that nature, which is
Speaker 7: kind of the critical when you got draft kings, it
Speaker 7: is all over the damn place, all right, stopped right there?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 3: Uh So I passed mine with flying You should.
Speaker 4: Have because you probably had it on the proper format.
Speaker 7: I did it on my phone, and I didn't realize
Speaker 7: that when the question was asked that there were more options.
Speaker 7: If I scrolled down.
Speaker 5: You just looked at the first one.
Speaker 4: It gave me yes or no. It was what I saw.
Speaker 7: I didn't know I could scroll And I'm like, I
Speaker 7: know this is it's a trick question.
Speaker 4: It must be. So I hit A A and then
Speaker 4: B A A and then B. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So but no, I they I merely should have scrolled
Speaker 7: up and saw that there were other options, right all.
Speaker 5: The No, anyway you get I did that?
Speaker 3: What flunked it twice?
Speaker 4: You flunked?
Speaker 7: I didn't know you have to scroll up. The format
Speaker 7: on the phone is horrible.
Speaker 4: They need to do better.
Speaker 7: If it's gonna be on the phone and on your computer,
Speaker 7: it needs to show up better on the phone because
Speaker 7: it only showed giving me two options, which.
Speaker 4: Was A or B.
Speaker 7: But there were something under that on two questions. So
Speaker 7: that's the only reason.
Speaker 5: You got it.
Speaker 4: And I go back and I look at oh, shoot
Speaker 4: that's down there.
Speaker 5: Thank you for doing that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So so you.
Speaker 5: Got to take it a third time.
Speaker 7: Second time you got to take No, I did I
Speaker 7: flunk two questions? Two questions that.
Speaker 4: That had more exactly right? I said, you know, we
Speaker 4: do this later. So that's it. That's just that simple mind.
Speaker 5: A roommate had in college. He he couldn't pass the
Speaker 5: accounting course and he needed to pass the accounting course
Speaker 5: to graduate.
Speaker 4: I'll graduate in the accounting and I hate the cant And.
Speaker 5: He flunked it twice, right, and so he had taken
Speaker 5: a third time and he and he still didn't get it.
Speaker 5: And he got to the final and the professor says, hey,
Speaker 5: just pass it with a D. Pass it with a D,
Speaker 5: and I'll pass you.
Speaker 7: Right, he got a D like me and geometry.
Speaker 4: That's crazy anyway.
Speaker 5: All right, So we got that issue taking care of.
Speaker 4: Okay, So.
Speaker 3: Points of interest? What are we what are we looking
Speaker 3: at on your legal pad?
Speaker 9: There?
Speaker 3: That is wow?
Speaker 5: Well, this this is the press preseason, all right. I
Speaker 5: checked the press conference to see if there was anything
Speaker 5: else there that was important, Bill, Why.
Speaker 4: Want you there?
Speaker 3: I was driving here. Oh I didn't have to be there.
Speaker 3: I was expecting to be able to listen to it
Speaker 3: as I drove in, and I couldn't find it, and
Speaker 3: so needing Mickey to fix there's.
Speaker 5: One of the things.
Speaker 4: That sounds like a mistake.
Speaker 5: That was his first mistake.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Everybody seems to be worried about the Cowboys taking care
Speaker 5: of a Miles Garrett, like he's going to line up
Speaker 5: every play in front of Tyrant Tire, Tyler Gitton Right.
Speaker 5: Has anybody considered the fact that if I'm the coach,
Speaker 5: there's going to be a tight end there and maybe
Speaker 5: two tight ends, right, I'm not going to leave him
Speaker 5: out there, sixty snaps one on one with Miles Garrett right, right.
Speaker 5: But then nobody asks what do you think Cleveland's gonna
Speaker 5: do with Michael Parsons because they got the same problem
Speaker 5: at left tackle. Right. We talked about it yesterday, having
Speaker 5: to move the right tackle, the left tackle who hasn't
Speaker 5: played left tackle since his first two years in the
Speaker 5: NFL and only sixty seven snaps at that Jack Cottlan okay.
Speaker 5: And the next guy up was the guy somebody Hudson
Speaker 5: the third right, That was their other.
Speaker 3: True James Hudson the third to somebody my yes, two
Speaker 3: of my grandsons.
Speaker 5: We talked about it yesterday, Jane, But no, no one seems,
Speaker 5: no one seems to ask the question, well, what do
Speaker 5: you think Michael Parsons hollow Cleveland's gonna handle Michael Parsons
Speaker 5: And what are you gonna do with Michael Parsons to
Speaker 5: get him clean?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: But yeah, everybody's you know, Miles Garrett against Geydon, he's
Speaker 5: gonna have help.
Speaker 4: Don't you think do they move Miles around?
Speaker 5: H well, then it's against Steele.
Speaker 4: I was just asking do they move him?
Speaker 5: Do they that part?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I was just figuring they're gonna look and oh there's
Speaker 5: the rookie that he's lining up on the right side.
Speaker 4: Well, I recall. That's just how good Miles Garrett is.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's sometimes he's just freestyling out there. I
Speaker 7: saw him one played. It was an obvious passing down.
Speaker 7: He lined up over For some reason, I thought it
Speaker 7: was the guard. I'm probably wrong. He probably lined up
Speaker 7: over the top. But he was up on two feet
Speaker 7: on two legs. He wasn't down in the stands. And
Speaker 7: he's acting as if he's dribbling a basketball, and it's
Speaker 7: like he's going to put a crossover move on the off.
Speaker 4: Did you see that?
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: I did see that correctly. That's pretty cocky. I mean,
Speaker 4: he knew he was going to beat the guy.
Speaker 7: He's clowning the guys if he's gonna like he's like Luca, right,
Speaker 7: I'm going to cross this guy up with my past moves.
Speaker 4: But he acts like he's got a basketball in his hand.
Speaker 7: He acts like he's dribbling it back and forth, coming
Speaker 7: down the cort or whatever. And of course he shook
Speaker 7: the guy down and he got to the quarterback. So
Speaker 7: you're looking at a pretty cocky, confident right, very good
Speaker 7: leader on this this Cleveland defense. That that's why they're
Speaker 7: playing as well as they play. They play off over him,
Speaker 7: just like we play off with Michael Pass. He's a
Speaker 7: hell of a player, you know.
Speaker 5: I'm not doubting that. That's why I said two tight.
Speaker 4: Ends, not one.
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett in high school had one game where I
Speaker 3: believe the number was either eight or eleven. I'll go
Speaker 3: with eleven. Eleven sacks in.
Speaker 4: One game, eighth. Great.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This matchup, though, reminds me of the old Rayfield
Speaker 3: Right story. Yes, and this goes back to the nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine season.
Speaker 5: I told it to Zach Martin day. We were talking
Speaker 5: about your memories of your first start as a rookie, right,
Speaker 5: And then I said, well, you heard the Rayfield right.
Speaker 3: Story, but Grayfield and Rayfield told this story many times,
Speaker 3: thousands of times probably, And when he made his debut
Speaker 3: and I looked up the details on it, just now
Speaker 3: as I was thinking about that, when I couldn't have
Speaker 3: listened to Mike McCarthy's press conference drive it in. I
Speaker 3: was thinking, Okay, this reminds me a Rayfield right versus
Speaker 3: Deacon Jones. And it was midway of the nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 4: So I was going to say, Deacon Jones gonna. I
Speaker 4: haven't heard this story.
Speaker 3: So Ralph Neely went down with an injury, and Rayfield
Speaker 3: at that time, you know, Rayfield came into the league
Speaker 3: out of Fort Valley State.
Speaker 4: As a tight end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a tight end, and then he played a
Speaker 3: little bit on the defensive line as well. They didn't
Speaker 3: weren't sure where he was going to wind up eventually,
Speaker 3: so it was like this was now his third year
Speaker 3: in the league and he's a backup to Ralph Neely
Speaker 3: at tackle. So he gets the start and Dallas was
Speaker 3: eight and one at the time, the Rams were nine
Speaker 3: and oh. They're playing out in LA Hall of Famer
Speaker 3: Deacon Jones at left defensive end and Rayfield's at right tackle.
Speaker 3: Rayfield said, we go to the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Deacon Jones square in his eyes. His
Speaker 3: eyes seemed to be red as fire.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: As an aside, I remember interviewing Deacon Jones about fifteen
Speaker 3: years later, and it was a Miller Lite commercial tour
Speaker 3: and his eyes were readyspire. Then too.
Speaker 5: His voice, his voice is about ten actives.
Speaker 4: Oh so Rayfield goes on.
Speaker 3: He says, he's kicking his back leg like a bull.
Speaker 3: I'm saying to myself, my god, what have I got
Speaker 3: myself into. Before the ball was snapped, Jones bellowed, boy,
Speaker 3: does your mama know you're out here? Stunned by the comment,
Speaker 3: Right was unprepared for the infamous Jones headsap that sent
Speaker 3: him reeling backward. Jones reached out his big arm down
Speaker 3: and said, hey, rookie, welcome to the NFL. I said, well,
Speaker 3: mister Jones, you don't know my mama, so don't talk
Speaker 3: about her. You want to play the game, this way, we'll.
Speaker 4: Play it, and there you go.
Speaker 3: They went nose to nose the rest of the afternoon,
Speaker 3: playing so well he received a game ball from the team,
Speaker 3: despite the Cowboys losing the game twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 5: But then they met up again like a second time,
Speaker 5: and I can't remember if it was a playoff, what
Speaker 5: year did did you had seven? That was sixty nine
Speaker 5: sixty nine or they met again and he kind of
Speaker 5: got him and he and he basically said, my mama
Speaker 5: knows where and so he used that in his Hall
Speaker 5: of Fame acceptance speech when he told the story. And
Speaker 5: he's like, Deacon and I don't know if he was
Speaker 5: on the stage, probably or not, and he goes, my
Speaker 5: mama knows, I'm standing here right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I heard Deacon speak at the Black College Hall
Speaker 7: of Fame. We had the all time one hundred team
Speaker 7: and I was blessed enough to make it with Deacon Jones.
Speaker 7: And that was in Baltimore, Maryland, sometime around two thousands.
Speaker 7: Pretty it was a heck of an I mean it
Speaker 7: was Black College Hall of Famous. So they were basically
Speaker 7: a bunch of them, you know, because those are the
Speaker 7: older guys that back in the day with the Kanasty Chiefs.
Speaker 7: You had Buchanan and all those guys. But Deacon Jones
Speaker 7: was the keynote.
Speaker 3: And Deacon by the way, who passed away in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: Deacon he started he started his college career at South
Speaker 3: Carolina State. Then he got in the transfer portal and
Speaker 3: went to Mississippi Valley stately moved way up. He went
Speaker 3: to Valley and there was he was a fourteenth round
Speaker 3: draft pick in nineteen sixties.
Speaker 7: Well, South Carolina State is up, the Mississippi Valley is not.
Speaker 4: But they kind of flipped yeah later, yeah, later on.
Speaker 7: That's because of Jerry Rice only yeah right, that's only
Speaker 7: because of Jerry Rice.
Speaker 5: So what was the first start you made as a rookie?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 4: I think it was Saint Louis.
Speaker 5: How how far into the season, like five games, so
Speaker 5: you had played a little or none.
Speaker 4: I was leading the league and interceptions for the bits spects.
Speaker 4: You want to talk about that, let's talk about that, son,
Speaker 4: get pissed.
Speaker 5: Off before before you started, I.
Speaker 4: Was leading the league and interceptions before I see.
Speaker 3: He had eleven interceptions in his rookie five before I started.
Speaker 5: And then Tom decided this guy might be able to
Speaker 5: maybe he could play.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's because I didn't go to Rice. I
Speaker 7: wasn't Michael Downs who came in and just blew training
Speaker 7: camp away.
Speaker 5: Because he was smart. He went was more than he was.
Speaker 4: Good, don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know what happened at Rice, but when he
Speaker 7: came out there to practice, well everyone knew that's gonna
Speaker 7: be one.
Speaker 4: Of the pos.
Speaker 3: Okay, So to just to echo what Everson is saying here,
Speaker 3: Everson had four interceptions his first four games of his
Speaker 3: rookie season, and then game five was at a loss. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so there you go.
Speaker 4: And I mean because I think we lost the game, yes.
Speaker 3: Twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 5: So your start wasn't shocking to you as a rookie
Speaker 5: because you.
Speaker 9: Had disappointing disappointing Why am I already college free?
Speaker 7: Already that's gotten too interceptions on Monday Night football against
Speaker 7: the Patriots and I'm like, what else do I have
Speaker 7: to do?
Speaker 3: Well, they wait and made you wait another game because
Speaker 3: the Giants, and you got another interception the Giant give
Speaker 3: me bro.
Speaker 7: I was so frustrated, so frustrated, but I still ended
Speaker 7: up making my bonuses.
Speaker 3: Think about how many snaps were you getting in those
Speaker 3: games before you became the starter?
Speaker 4: Just third downs? Wow, I just came in. I was
Speaker 4: I was Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 5: I wonder if they it really was just on third down?
Speaker 4: It was just on third downs. Yeah. It wasn't like
Speaker 4: no we like today like last year. I was not
Speaker 4: that guy.
Speaker 3: All right, We continue with more mix shots in a
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Speaker 5: Did you have periods any periods in there?
Speaker 4: I just assumed. I just assumed.
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Speaker 5: I was going to I was going to bring this up. Uh,
Speaker 5: maybe we'd do it tomorrow. Okay, But so Deshaun Watson
Speaker 5: at quarterback for Cleveland, and I'm going how much has
Speaker 5: he played recently? So it was six games in each
Speaker 5: of the two last seasons. Yep, so twelve games. Is
Speaker 5: there any worry about him in Cleveland?
Speaker 4: Should Oh? I would imagine. I thought they were worried
Speaker 4: last year six games?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought they were because he did not end
Speaker 7: up well last year at all.
Speaker 5: So the last two seasons, well, I guess we got
Speaker 5: a few minutes here. Fourteen touchdown passes, nine interceptions, He
Speaker 5: averaged six point five yards in attempt. Eight is good,
Speaker 5: seven is average. Anything above eight is really good. Yeah,
Speaker 5: six point five. And his quarterback ratings were seventy nine
Speaker 5: point one and eighty four point three. Who's their backup,
Speaker 5: by the.
Speaker 4: Way, fifteen Jameis Winston. Well, yeah, now it's James.
Speaker 3: But last year, yeah, but now it's well, you had
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco and then you also had Dorian Thompson Robinson
Speaker 3: who got three starts last year.
Speaker 7: It's not just the bad percentage passing. It's he had
Speaker 7: fumbles as well. He fumbled several times last year in
Speaker 7: big games.
Speaker 3: He's not he had he had five fumbles in six games,
Speaker 3: which is not.
Speaker 4: What you're looking for. That is not last year.
Speaker 7: Clearly, all of that stuff that the legal problems he
Speaker 7: was having and the time that he missed it clearly
Speaker 7: affected how he played. And you're talking about the guy
Speaker 7: who's one of the better competitors at quarterback three years
Speaker 7: ago he would probably see on the field.
Speaker 3: And it was twenty twenty was his last year in Houston,
Speaker 3: where he passed for four eight hundred and twenty three yards,
Speaker 3: which led the league that year. Of course, it was
Speaker 3: a four and twelve season for Houston, so they were
Speaker 3: throwing the ball a lot, playing catch up, and that
Speaker 3: was Covid, right, and.
Speaker 7: He was and he he was one of those guys.
Speaker 7: He was never, never quit guy. Yeah, and that's he's
Speaker 7: still that guy. But he leads to more turnovers now
Speaker 7: for him, especially because he missed so much time because
Speaker 7: of his legal issues.
Speaker 3: Okay, and he was, go ahead, here's another thing. Last year,
Speaker 3: six starts seventeen sacks, okay, and in fact that's basically
Speaker 3: a rate of over a seventeen game season, that would
Speaker 3: be around fifty sacks or a little less forty five sacks.
Speaker 4: Probably he was knock on the same page with all right.
Speaker 3: And then the previous season six starts twenty sacks, which
Speaker 3: that's even more sacks.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: He led the league his second year in the league
Speaker 3: with Houston, which was a Pro Bowl season for him,
Speaker 3: and they went eleven in five that year. He was
Speaker 3: sacked sixty two times that season, so he.
Speaker 7: Kept going, he kept going, so he was one of
Speaker 7: those no quit guys.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: If I guess he's starting, he's not going to quit
Speaker 7: on you, but as he takes a lot of punishment,
Speaker 7: and you hope as a defense that he doesn't quit
Speaker 7: because he's committing the turnovers for you at this point
Speaker 7: in his career.
Speaker 5: And they've got to start a backup running back.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know what kind of pickup he's having
Speaker 7: as far as the Blitz is concerned. I mean, he
Speaker 7: needs all the help he can get. But one guy
Speaker 7: that is not hurting for stats, and that is still
Speaker 7: a Mari Cooper. I don't care who the damn quarterback is.
Speaker 7: This man is amazing and we made we're talking about
Speaker 7: Miles Garrett. We better make sure Cooper doesn't get off
Speaker 7: on us.
Speaker 5: So your thoughts on Diggs taking him on.
Speaker 4: One on one based on how these kids are these days.
Speaker 7: Not knowing just finding out about this wrap up thing
Speaker 7: with the surgery and all of that. I don't know
Speaker 7: why I wasn't in tune to it when I played.
Speaker 7: But he's gonna have some problems.
Speaker 5: I mean, is that a big ask?
Speaker 4: A big to do that? That's a big ask for Diggs?
Speaker 7: Uh, they will probably take a chance and say, well,
Speaker 7: we're gonna show them they can't they can't run on
Speaker 7: us because they have a backup running back.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's gonna be our philosophy.
Speaker 7: And we will probably uh round up into double teaming
Speaker 7: him in strategic situations, giving dig some help over the.
Speaker 5: Top, and then or giving Carson help if he's going,
Speaker 5: if he's if he's not one on one man?
Speaker 7: Can can we please get an interruption here?
Speaker 4: We got Stephen.
Speaker 3: Wants to say hello to I'm coming.
Speaker 4: Here with that cute dogs stuff man, dog stuff?
Speaker 8: How you doing?
Speaker 4: When he had his first show on ESPN, he blew
Speaker 4: it man, Me and him had it going. I was
Speaker 4: gonna be his guy. He blew it blow. I did
Speaker 4: blow and lord man, I miss you man, how you been?
Speaker 4: I'm good man.
Speaker 7: I was always there to keep you from going off
Speaker 7: the rails, off the rails. You're further off the rails there,
Speaker 7: rails you've taken off.
Speaker 4: Brother.
Speaker 13: I'm trying to I'm trying to do all right, and
Speaker 13: I'm walking around and I'm just.
Speaker 8: Seeing all my boys that have been cowboys, and I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, it's and you know, we don't want you here. Man, man,
Speaker 7: you we like you, but we love to hate you.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen.
Speaker 8: I have no issue with with cowboys. I have no
Speaker 8: issue with cowboys broadcasters. It's just them damn things.
Speaker 5: Did you guys hear that?
Speaker 8: Did you hear?
Speaker 12: Not?
Speaker 13: Even the cowboy fans in Dallas that makes sense, But
Speaker 13: it's when you see them all over the country, it's like,
Speaker 13: what you're jeal ridiculous.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: One of those guys in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: That done like and this is the guy he likes Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: Come on, you like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Steelers fan. I've always been a Pittsburgh Steels fan.
Speaker 8: But I love you guys too.
Speaker 4: Some of y'all.
Speaker 8: Do sometimes, man, Sometimes, man, sometimes.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Everson? Can you imagine you? And Michael
Speaker 3: Irvin with Stephen A.
Speaker 4: Smith. I don't know.
Speaker 8: If I get a chance to know, he bullied.
Speaker 7: They were talking about how I dress and Michael Irvan
Speaker 7: is get up out of his seat.
Speaker 4: Don't tell coffin place. Yeah, crazy, I'm getting.
Speaker 8: Rid of that right now. I told him I'm walking
Speaker 8: down the hallway. I said, this picture of Michael Irving
Speaker 8: is a lie.
Speaker 7: That's not Okay, tell the true Truth'll.
Speaker 3: Take care there you go, all right, very very special.
Speaker 4: Dying yourself. Man, go great all the way. Man, come on, man,
Speaker 4: come on.
Speaker 3: That's a good way to close out there.
Speaker 4: Well, pretty good.
Speaker 5: Extra five minutes there.
Speaker 4: It was worth it.
Speaker 3: It was worth Okay, let's tweet that out.
Speaker 5: Yes, let it go viral.
Speaker 4: But let's do it.
Speaker 3: All right, So let's do it again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 5: All right, you're gonna be ready Thursday, Thursday, Yeah right, baby.
Speaker 3: Okay, first first NFL games tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Night, can yeah right, that's right.
Speaker 7: We're gonna preview though, So we're gonna previous.
Speaker 5: And Friday Friday in Brazil, Brazil, Philadelphia and green O
Speaker 5: the players that the players are afraid to go out
Speaker 5: of the out of the hotel.
Speaker 4: Rooms in Brazil. Sure, they think they're gonna get kidnapped.
Speaker 7: What's the tough guy for the forty nine? Is the
Speaker 7: big wide receiver? What's his name?
Speaker 4: Come on?
Speaker 7: The big Deebo said he's not going out of his room.
Speaker 7: Deebo said he's not going out of.
Speaker 4: His man debo.
Speaker 5: I had somebody in the NBA that had to go
Speaker 5: there for games.
Speaker 8: And Stephen, they thought you were frozen gone.
Speaker 4: He wasn't gonna come here till he saw Stephen. They
Speaker 4: come here. I see you all love season. I love
Speaker 4: you too, man, everybody. She's good, She's good.
Speaker 3: All right. That does it for Wednesday edition of Mixed Shots.
Speaker 3: We'll talk at you again tomorrow at noon.
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