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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is none other than the famous or maybe

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Speaker 1: I should say infamous, depends on who you ask. Brent Reeves.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, Derek.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Man? I'm doing great, you know, I always I was

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Speaker 2: thinking today when I remembered, actually just a few minutes ago,

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Speaker 2: when I remembered we were going to be doing this,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, Dirk is like my second

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Speaker 2: favorite person to see when I'm in Bozeman.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Really, I mean my first favorite is the uber driver

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Speaker 2: that's taking me back to the airport so I can

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Speaker 2: get back to Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: I feel that.

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Speaker 2: No, I love it up there. Man, it's just this

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Speaker 2: time of year, it's just too dank for me. But

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Speaker 2: I mean there's nothing that's nothing for you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Weather, you know, I live in near Boise, Idaho, and

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Speaker 1: it you know, it's pretty moderate here. We're at the

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Speaker 1: kind of the edge of the mountains and edge of

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Speaker 1: the desert, so we don't get a lot of snow.

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Speaker 1: We don't get a lot of real cold weather. If

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Speaker 1: you drive an hour north, hour and a half north,

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Speaker 1: you'll you'll get to Stanley, Idaho, and that is the

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Speaker 1: cold spot in the USA and the lower forty eight

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Speaker 1: every year, you know, you'll be like watching the national

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Speaker 1: news and they're like, and the cold spot is Stanley,

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Speaker 1: Idaho thirty five below zero or whatever. So we're not

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Speaker 1: too far from there. But it's pretty nice here. Nothing

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Speaker 1: like bozman Man Bozeman is a is a n ice

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Speaker 1: box for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm running my air conditioner here today. It was

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Speaker 2: seventy eight here yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow.

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Speaker 2: Here For folks that don't know, here is in central Arkansas. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I probably thought I was from Boston my accent. Well

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Speaker 2: I'm in Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, say say chowder clam chowder.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 1: Uh. What's the closest thing to clam chowder you got

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Speaker 2: You guys like, uh, probably crawlfish. A Yeah, yeah, Now

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Speaker 2: I like chowder, Uh, clam chowder. I've eaten it before.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good, But yeah, I like, I'd rather eat

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Speaker 2: something comes out of dirty water catfish and crawlfish and

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of mystery. You know, you just don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get till.

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Speaker 2: You get it. So you pull it up and put

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Speaker 1: Oh man. Well, Brent hosts if you folks don't know,

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Speaker 1: he hosts uh This Country Life, which is part of

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Speaker 1: the Bear Grease podcast, and he's an amazing storyteller and

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Speaker 1: I just love his down home anecdotal stories on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't listened to him until, like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: must have been a year and a half or so ago.

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Speaker 1: And I don't listen to a lot of podcasts because

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Speaker 1: like anytime I have some road time behind the steering wheel,

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Speaker 1: listen to some podcasts. And anyway, I kind of man,

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Speaker 1: I can binge watch or binge listen to Brent because

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Speaker 1: his stories are are you know, they're pretty digestible, pretty short,

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Speaker 1: and uh man, you can listen to a lot of

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Speaker 1: them on a good road trip. So uh man, I

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Speaker 1: just sit there and drink like a fool. And I

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Speaker 1: listened to your recount stories from your past, so I

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you listening and saying that you know it's

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Speaker 2: we we did it as a you know on the

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Speaker 2: Baggery's channel. You know, we got Clay that does the

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Speaker 2: documentary stuff and there's you know, a lot of it technical,

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Speaker 2: very deep, very detailed, very articulated as far as historical

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Speaker 2: wanted to do something totally opposite of that that would

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Speaker 2: just it's an easy listen. You can do it while

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Speaker 2: you're you can listen to it, like you say, like

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Speaker 2: It's we get a lot of feedback about how easy

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Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, it was. It's different enough from

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Speaker 1: like your standard podcast. It's just like, you know, all

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Speaker 1: the little and I don't know if your listeners pick

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Speaker 1: up on this, but all the little there's like some

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Speaker 1: sound effects in the back and your storytelling, the voice

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Speaker 1: I love Clay's as well, but you have to have

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Speaker 1: some time to dedicate to listen to that. DEA truely.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking this is going to be the one that

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Speaker 2: gets me fired. This is terrible. It sucks from start

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Speaker 2: then Reva Hanson, who works on all our stuff up

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Speaker 2: there sound engineer whose title should be more than sound engineer.

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Speaker 2: She puts her touch to that thing and puts the

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Speaker 2: And I just you know, I would think, you know,

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Speaker 2: my masculine buffoonery and how it's described is an absolute

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Speaker 2: It's it wouldn't be what it is without her, that's

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Speaker 1: It's next Levely. Yeah, she's great. She does such a

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Speaker 1: And I find myself telling anybody I see after I

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, they're I mean, they're not unique. I

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Speaker 2: it's not a I didn't really know what this show

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Speaker 2: I didn't want it to be a hooks and bullets podcast,

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Speaker 2: how to hunt, how to catch fish. You you, among

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Speaker 2: the other folks that work in meat Eater are way

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Speaker 2: In anybody can do that, or anybody can do it

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Speaker 2: and he said, Man, I really enjoy your show. He said,

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Speaker 2: either with he said. I took it as as identifying

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, dude, I'll be dead. I learned there's

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Speaker 2: You know, you asking me this question, that's a story

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Speaker 2: But it's perfect. It it's just it's just a fun

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Speaker 2: and pocketnize. But don't tell Uncle Steve because they'll quick

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Speaker 1: He'll stop sitting the checks. Yeah, so one thing I

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Speaker 1: lot of little bits and pieces about you know, your

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Speaker 2: I grew up in Southeast Arkansas. I graduated from Warren

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Speaker 2: and I graduated high school in nineteen eighty four. I'm fifty.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you grew up in a in

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Speaker 2: nothing about deer hunting. We would go some. And then

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Speaker 2: Anything that didn't it wasn't squirrel hunting or you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean in a very convoluted way. He was preparing

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Speaker 1: Love it, love it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, next month in Mississippi. Yeah, maybe opening it

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Speaker 1: So what can can you remember the very first time

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Speaker 2: April the fourteenth, nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: First real election was the first day I killed a turkey,

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Speaker 2: I turned, I said, man, that's that. Ain't that's a

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00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: that's somebody doing that. He said, it's a turkey. Foot

433
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: turn around and get ready, shure enough, Sure enough, it was.

434
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: Man, that's that's awesome. How old were you at that point?

435
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: I was nineteen. I just turned I just turned nineteen.

436
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: And there were turkey hunters around, but we just didn't

437
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: turkey hunt much. And there was turkeys on our property

438
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: that we would see occasionally on our farm, but I

439
00:24:54,760 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: just never took a notion to hunting. And when springtime came,

440
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 2: it was fishing. It was crappie fishing and cat fishing

441
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: and doing all that kind of stuff, and turkey's just

442
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: never were on my radar much growing up until I

443
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: got invited to go fella. He was a policeman there

444
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: in town. Invited me to go, and I was working

445
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: on the occasional times I was going to college. I

446
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: was working on the weekends as a dispatcher at the

447
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: police department, midnight dispatcher. And he invited me to go

448
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: with him as when I'll go turkey hunting. I'm like, well, hunt,

449
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: I like to hunt. Sure, I'd like to go. And

450
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: we went and we got out there this place it

451
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: was like in the next town over near Monticella, Arkansas,

452
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 2: and a turkey gobbled and we sat down and he said,

453
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: get out there in front of me. He called it

454
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: up and we went through that dialogue I just described

455
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: to you of a turkey gobbling everybody. Every time he'd

456
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: called I turnround, looked at him. I was like, man,

457
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: you're calling somebody up. That's somebody. And he's about to

458
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: lose his mind back there because I'm wiggling around like

459
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 2: a paint shake. I'm shaking paint down at the home

460
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: depot and he's like, no, he still, he's coming, He's coming.

461
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: And I learned a lot of two lessons that day.

462
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: Three lessons actually what a wild turkey sounds like, don't

463
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: guide the guide and laying down like an army man.

464
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: The snipe a turkey coming through the woods is a

465
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: very terrible choice because the turkey was almost on me

466
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: when I got when I can shoot him because of

467
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: the because of the brush, I was laying on my belly,

468
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: and he was walking in the weeds, was a little high.

469
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: You know, I was hiding. I guess like I thought

470
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 2: he was coming to shoot at me. But anyway, it

471
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 2: all worked out. And from the first flop when I

472
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: walked over there and put my foot on his head, man,

473
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: I've been chasing that ever since. It is it's good.

474
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: That's fun. I think they first introduced turkeys in Idaho

475
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty one, the part. I'm not sure exactly

476
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: where they dumped them off, but I remember when I

477
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: was a kid in the early eighties, you started hearing

478
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: grumblings about them dropping some off in the area we

479
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: lived kind of north central Idaho, and then we'd be

480
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: out in the woods cutting firewood and you'd come to

481
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: a mud puddle and you'd see a turkey track in.

482
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck is that really that's a

483
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: turkey track, and you just see one every now and then.

484
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: And then then we'd start seeing like a little bit

485
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: of poop here and there. And I didn't know nothing

486
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: about if a gobbler poop or hen poop, you know.

487
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: And then one spring day I was walking along my

488
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: Mama dropped me off by this old dump. There was

489
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: this an old place where there was a dump back

490
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties. Well this is the eighties

491
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: and long abandoned. So there's just a bunch of old

492
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: junker around there and old pieces of metal and old

493
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: wreck cars. And I'd go out there and i'd shoot

494
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: shoot stuff with my twenty two shoot shoot car fenders

495
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Oh yeah by twenty two. Yeah,

496
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: And it was it was really close to my home anyway.

497
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: So but I was walking along there one day along

498
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: this old old road, this whole gravel road, and I

499
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: heard like, I heard a turkey. I'm like, that was

500
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: it like? And I didn't recognize it at first. I

501
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: took a couple of steps. I'm like, wait a minute,

502
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: I think that was a turkey gobble. And I stopped

503
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: and listen, and I heard it one more time, but

504
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: it was a little more distant, and by that point

505
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: i'd kind of talked to people and heard people call,

506
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: and I start trying to do it with my mouth,

507
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, but I never heard it again. I'm like, ah,

508
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: maybe I was just hearing things, I you know, And

509
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: I was probably i'd say, probably twelve thirteen years old.

510
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: And fast forward to the first time I killed a

511
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: turkey was in nineteen ninety four, so that would have

512
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: been like eighty seven, probably eighty six eighty seven the

513
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: first time I heard a turkey, but then never really

514
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: hunted them much until probably the early nineties, and then

515
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: finally kill one in ninety four. And I'd been watching

516
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: these gobblers every morning for work before i'd go to

517
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: work and trying to call them, and all they would

518
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: want to do is just strut up on this old,

519
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: this open knoll, you know. They would gobble to beat

520
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: the band and just strut. But they'd never come my way.

521
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: So I got off work early one day and I'm like, man,

522
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to go right back out there. So I

523
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: stopped and bought me one of them old Quaker boy

524
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: box calls Grand Old Master, is that it?

525
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: What?

526
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: I bought one of those and I went out there,

527
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm gonna do like I do deer hunting,

528
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, when there ain't no deer around the middle

529
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: of the day or late afternoon here, before the turkeys

530
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: are out, I'm just gonna lay down. So I just

531
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: laid down. It's kind of this old clere cut, timber cut,

532
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: and you know, you had a little bit of brush

533
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: starting to grow up. So I laid down flat on

534
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: my back and I started squawking with that box and

535
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I didn't hear nothing squawked somewhere. And then it was

536
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: such a nice spring day. It was warm and like,

537
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: I laid there and fell asleep. Yeah, I knew that

538
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: was COVID, only to be rudely awakened by a gobble.

539
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's just right there. I'm like, I woke up,

540
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: my eyes open. I'm like, oh no, I'm laying on

541
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: my back. What do I do? My shotgun's over here,

542
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: there's no way to shoot a turkey. And then he

543
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: gobbled again. I was like, okay, I can hear where

544
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: he's at. So I slowly rolled over, and just so happens.

545
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: When I'd rolled over, he was facing away. Oh his

546
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: tail fan he couldn't see me, and he was only

547
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: fifteen yards maybe. Oh, and he turned back around and

548
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: I let him have it with that shotgun.

549
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Oh that is awesome, man. I can think of I

550
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: know of three turkeys right now that I that woke

551
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: me up, either drumming or gobblin that I killed. And

552
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: then I was leaned up against the tree, you know,

553
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: asleep in one of those things where they they're not

554
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: coming in, they're not they hung up or they walk

555
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: off with hens and you just you got no other

556
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: options other than to sit right there because you don't

557
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: not really sure where he's at. Yep. And and over

558
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: the years, I can think of three for sure that

559
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: that you know, and you just slowly, thankfully you know,

560
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm not when I woke up, I didn't just like,

561
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: you know, look around, I'm just easing the eye open,

562
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: looking and either he's there in my peripheral somewhere or

563
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: eventually moving into it. You know, I got enough sense

564
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: that I didn't move and scare them off. But yeah,

565
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: that's that's a that isn't a drilling field moment to

566
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: wake up to that.

567
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a picture of me standing there. I'm

568
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: wearing desert camo. I took this turkey to the TUXTRMA

569
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: shop and they took a picture of me there and

570
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I got to get this thing mounted, right,

571
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that has a live turkey mount,

572
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, a full strut wild turkey mount.

573
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: So I took it and.

574
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: They got a picture of me stand there and I'm

575
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: wearing desert camo, you know, like from Desert Storm type

576
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: camo bottoms, pants and like an Air Jordan T shirt.

577
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: I was wearing some other camo top when I was hunting.

578
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: But it's it's pretty funny picture.

579
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: That's good.

580
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: But what I've learned hunting Easterns the last few years,

581
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: me and Jason Phelp's been going out to Kansas hunting Easterns,

582
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: and they're not always the funnest to call in. They

583
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: can be they can take their time. It seems like

584
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Easterns are there's if they come at you're on their time, and.

585
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: We take a We take a lot of pride down

586
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: here and how hard these turkeys are to hunt, but

587
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: then every day we're out there trying to hunt them.

588
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: He was like, man, I wish these things work so hard.

589
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: I know, I know it and what I've kind of

590
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: figured out. So like last year, I figure this out.

591
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: This is like last year was year three. I said, folks,

592
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: about the time I can't hold my eyes open anymore

593
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: and I'm about ready to fall asleep. That's when them

594
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: turkeys come in. It's like they've been here long enough

595
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: to where you're just kind of starting to take a

596
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: nap and want to take a nap. I'm like, man,

597
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: you got to like snap out of it and like

598
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: be ready. And it seems like it's that like you're

599
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: sitting there for like an hour or longer, and it

600
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: takes meat about that long to get, you know, to

601
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: where I want to take a nap.

602
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: So that internal clock going yep.

603
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: So I've learned, you know, you have to have a

604
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: lot of patience turkeys. So I have a question. So

605
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: turkeys are made this is an airb AARB answer. Turkeys

606
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: are made to be shot with a shotgun or b

607
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: BO shotgun. All right, my man, I don't know why.

608
00:33:53,000 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean, why you would won't to increase the the

609
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: degree of difficulty Because if your if your mission is

610
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 2: to do something hard, go climb a mountain. But if

611
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 2: you're if you're wanting to go out and kill a turkey.

612
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean you've you've already reverse nature by calling him

613
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: to you instead of you going to him the way

614
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: it happens in nature. You know, the turkey's gobble to

615
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: gather up hens. You calling a hen calling to a

616
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: turkey is doing the exact opposite of how it's actually

617
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: supposed to work. So why would you want to put

618
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: another limiting factor on yourself of having to be able

619
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: to pull a bow back and shoot the turkey. My

620
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: goal is to put the turkey in the skillet. That

621
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 2: is my number one priority, because they taste so good,

622
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: and they don't taste any better being shot with a

623
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 2: bow than they do a shot. I agree with that. Hey,

624
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: my answer is.

625
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: Hey, okay, all right, we're on the same wavelength. Last

626
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: last spring, Jason Phelps and I went to Kansas and

627
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, we're going to shoot him with a bow. Well,

628
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: he made all these these these promises, like we're going

629
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: to shoot turkeys with the bow, and then when it's

630
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: gets time to to pack to go, he's like, yeah,

631
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: blah blah, shotgun. I said, what are you taking your

632
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: shotgun for? He's like, well, because he's.

633
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Not an idiot.

634
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, hold on, you said you you said

635
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: we're going to use our bows to shoot these turkeys.

636
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want to do that. I'm like,

637
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: you need you made the promise.

638
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: I didn't.

639
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: So we both pack our bows fly him out there

640
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: with us and our buddy Randy Milligan's got the farm

641
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: we hunt, he's the guys are going to do what?

642
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

643
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: Right, so he knows.

644
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: So we got like, uh, we got it like a

646
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: day and a half into this, sitting in a blind

647
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: hoping turkeys kind of walk by, you know, and finally

648
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: he's like, when are you gonna let me use the shatga?

649
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: Like I just wanted you to suffer for a day

650
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: and a half here like everybody else is just blasting turkeys,

651
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, and here we are with these stupid bows.

652
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, we'll borrow around Randy shotguns.

653
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: And then that man, the hunt definitely took a turn

654
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: for the better, you know.

655
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, deer hunting turkeys. Deer hunting turkeys is what I

656
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: call it. When you're sitting and waiting for him to

657
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: come to a certain spot, that is my least favorite

658
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: thing to do. I like to get up and go

659
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: after Yeah, I like to get up and go and

660
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: and it just I mean, if you're going to put

661
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: a challenge, if you want to challenge, move around and

662
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: move around in the woods with something that's that is

663
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: my grandpa described it. A turkey. Can hear you thinking

664
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,959
Speaker 2: and see you change your mind? You know, so try

665
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: especially somebody big as me trying to slip around and

666
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: kill a turkey that I have an I have enough

667
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: issues trying to overcome those obstacles. Uh So, you know,

668
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: adding a boat of that is way in the in

669
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: the turkey's favor. I'm not for that.

670
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. So about a year ago, I

671
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: think it was a year ago, meat Eater they had this,

672
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: they put together this turkey calling contest yep. And I

673
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: know you and a bunch of other crew member guys

674
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: on there were involved in this turkey contest, and I

675
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: know there was some heated debate towards the end of it.

676
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Tell our listeners about that, in case they didn't catch that.

677
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: How that all played out.

678
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: I can tell you how I played out up to

679
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: a certain extent, because some of this on the advice

680
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: of counsel, I have been advised not to talk about

681
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: very much. I have a pending lawsuit against Clay nukemb

682
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: all the people that he paid to vote continuously for him,

683
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: when he knows himself who he wound up winning this contest.

684
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: But it was rigged from the start. I don't know

685
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: how many kids he had a questioned in his barn,

686
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: out there with iPhones and laptops, voting for him when

687
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: I clearly, clearly it was a better turkey call than

688
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: he is. Well.

689
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: I listened to that contest, and I'm just gonna say you,

690
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: you cleaned his clock.

691
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I hear. I shouldn't even have

692
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: to call. I shouldn't even have to call in this

693
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: thing Dirk I have. I don't know where it's at.

694
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: I know a lot of turkey hunters that are a

695
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: lot better turkey killers than I am. I've killed close

696
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty turkeys. I don't know how

697
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: many it is. And I told Clay that he could

698
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: not he couldn't hold all the turkeys. I can hold

699
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: all the turkeys he's killed in a sock. He couldn't

700
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: hold a turkey beards in a sock. He couldn't hold

701
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: all the turkey beards I've killed in his sock drawer.

702
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: So I mean, there there's the judgment right there. Yeah,

703
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: the turkeys. The turkeys have judged who won.

704
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so.

705
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: But there we are. It's coming around again. You know

706
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: this year I.

707
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: Heard some rumblings at it. They're gonna maybe try to

708
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: do that again.

709
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's from what I understand. There's gonna be a

710
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: little different format. And you know they put me in

711
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: clay together against each other right at the beginning. So

712
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: that was last year. That's how it worked out last year.

713
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: But this year they're changing that up. And I'm I'm

714
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: gonna whoop him and everybody else in that thing. I'm

715
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: gonna I'm bringing home the trophy this year. And if

716
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: you get in that, I'm sorry to saying I'm gonna

717
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: beat you too.

718
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: I promise you you'd beat me. I'll call turkeys a

719
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: little bit.

720
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: I'll go out in the first round just like I did,

721
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: like I did last year. But it's fun, man. It

722
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: brings a lot of tension onto to what we love

723
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 2: to do so much, and that that's the thing, that's

724
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: that's why we do it. But yeah, I mean, I'm

725
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: not bitter, but I hate Clay nucle Man.

726
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I love listen to that rivalry and back and forth.

727
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: That was pretty funny. Well, I have another question. So now,

728
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: being an Arkansas boy, I have an idea what you're

729
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: gonna say. Maybe I'm wrong, but you gotta tell me

730
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: which of these game animals or game pursuits is better

731
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: turkey hunting, duck hunting, or deer hunting, ma'am?

732
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: In your opinion, which is best? Man? That is so

733
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: hard to I love it all so much. You know.

734
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: I was talking with a friend of mine, Benny Hargrove,

735
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: just a couple of days ago, and he is he's

736
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: got a wonderful place that we duck hunt on the

737
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: cash River. And he was asking me, he said, Brent,

738
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: what what's your favorite? And I stammered around, like I'm

739
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: stammering now. And I've been asked this question a bunch,

740
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: But it's they're so it's kind of it's so different

741
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: if I if somebody if you held a gun on

742
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: me Dirk and said he was gonna shoot me in

743
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: the foot, if I didn't say, I'd probably say say here,

744
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: I am pausing right now. Yeah, it would. It would

745
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: be but it's probably turkey hunt. I'd probably say turkey hunting. Wow,

746
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: And I know and seeing and I'm thinking when I

747
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: said that, I thought, why didn't I say duck hunting?

748
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: And I did the same thing with with Benny. But

749
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: deer hunting is number two to ever to all of it.

750
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: I loved the bow hunt. I love to bow hunt,

751
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: and and I hadn't shot a deer with a rifle,

752
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: and in a while I'm going to if I'm going

753
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: through this year, I've got some plans to do some

754
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: deer hunting with a rifle. But turkey hunt and didn't

755
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: duck hunters are so vastly different, But the way I

756
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: do it is kind of similar, if that makes any sense.

757
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: You know, usually you you duck hunting with a group

758
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: of people, and you turkey hunt alone. I liked I

759
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: like to do it with other folks as well. I

760
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: would rather share the experience with of turkey hunting with

761
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: someone than do it by myself and kill the biggest

762
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: turkey in the woods. And I don't have to kill

763
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: the turkey, you know, I call it up for somebody

764
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: else or I watch them do it. And that that

765
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: is why I have such a hard time choosing. Now,

766
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: if you the traditional route being a single turkey hunter

767
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: or duck hunting with two or three folks, that's I'm

768
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: gonna pick that every time, just because I love sharing

769
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: the experiences that we do out there so much. That's

770
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: the reason. That's how I got into film and stuff

771
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, you know, for myself, was because my

772
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: dad was not a duck hunter. He wasn't a turkey hunter,

773
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: and I wanted to film and to show him the

774
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 2: stuff that I was seeing out there, and to show

775
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: other folks, you know, but mainly mainly my dad to

776
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: look at it. But that's always a tough question. But

777
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 2: if you if my answer would be duck hunting, if

778
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 2: you look at it as duck hunting with other people

779
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: and turkey hunting by yourself. But I hardly do any

780
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: of it by myself anymore.

781
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that. Yeah, It's it's always fun

782
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: to go out with your buddies and cut it up

783
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: and just have a good time.

784
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: And even now, you know, I mean, you know, we

785
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: it's very seldom if we're on a big hunt somewhere

786
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: that you know, working for me either we don't have

787
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: a cameraman with us, and that to me is it's

788
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: more fun than document than than documenting the the hunt,

789
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: which is fun and entertaining and part of my job.

790
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: But having that guy with me seeing the same thing,

791
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that I can turn him mind, did you

792
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: see that squirrel jump you know, from that tree or whatever?

793
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: To see the things that are out there that I

794
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: get more enjoyment out of sharing that with him, or

795
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 2: as much as I do with sharing the whole thing

796
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: with everybody, but having somebody there to share the moment

797
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: with there is I think about the best part of

798
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: all of it for me.

799
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I've done a lot of like solo hunting

800
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: for elk and beer and turkeys and bears and whatever,

801
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: and man, I've seen some crazy things. I've had some

802
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: crazy awesome experiences. I've seen some neat stuff in the

803
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: woods back especially back before he ever packed a cell

804
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: phone that had a good camera. You know, sure, you know,

805
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: you just like have to sit there and watch something

806
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: you didn't have a draw camera and you just all

807
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: every time I'd be like, man, I wish I had

808
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: somebody with me right now to enjoy this moment. Nobody

809
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 1: is ever gonna believe what I just saw.

810
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's that has probably cost me

811
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: more good hunting spots by grabbing the first person I

812
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: could that was available to go back the next day

813
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: and do something again. And then you get there the

814
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: next time and you know they're there with their buddies

815
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: or whatever. But you know there's a cost or a

816
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: chance you take when you do that kind of stuff.

817
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: But you know, with the right folks, it just it

818
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: just makes it so much better. And it's just the way.

819
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: I just love sharing it with people. And if I

820
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: can share it with you know, a kid or even

821
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: an adult that especially if it's the first time to

822
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: do something, to me, it's like doing it for the

823
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: first time all over again because they'll they'll have the

824
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: same expressions and they'll they'll see, you know, a lot

825
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: of the same things that that I saw, and it

826
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: just reminds me, you know, you know, just how special

827
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: this stuff is.

828
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: Absolutely what do you think? Well, I'm just gonna switch

829
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: gears before I ask the question. So this I'm gonna

830
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: bring up this week's Pendleton Whiskey's Q and A and

831
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about how statistically they say whoever

832
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: they is, they say new hunter recruitment is down across

833
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: our nation. In your opinion, what do you think is

834
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: the biggest cause of.

835
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: That hunter recruitment is down? Probably opportunity, man, you know,

836
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: it's that's it's hard for me to quantify an answer

837
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: like that on a national scale because there's while our

838
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: communities and interaction with people is similar everywhere. I can't

839
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: relate to somebody who lives in Texas, which is next

840
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: just the next state over, because they, you know, have

841
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 2: almost zero public land there, and Arkansas has so much

842
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: you know, we have so much like and you guys

843
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: out west have so much land. So to me, it

844
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: would be the opportunity for some to mentor somebody to

845
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: take them. You know, I don't know if if recruitment

846
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: is down because the folks are being selfish, or if

847
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: they're losing interest in it because you know, license fees

848
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: going up, or I tell you the worst thing. To me,

849
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: I think it's probably video games. Yeah, and you know

850
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: I sound like the old man on the porch, get

851
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: off of my lawn. But you know this that came

852
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 2: screen time. These screens are standing or what's between our

853
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: youth and the outside, And I don't you know who knows.

854
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: I may have been the same way had I been

855
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: inundated with the opportunity to sit in the air conditioning

856
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: and play a game that's fun instead of going outside

857
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: where it's hot, you know, and getting bit by mosquitoes

858
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 2: or whatever. You know, I can't say that I wouldn't

859
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: have the same issues that kids are having now. But

860
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: I just that's a hard it's a hard question for

861
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: me to answer because I'm just not familiar with it.

862
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: You know, when I told you that I grew I

863
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: grew up hunting and fishing, it wasn't it wasn't expected.

864
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't expected to do that. I wasn't made to

865
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: go any means I had the choice not to go.

866
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: But I mean, there was just no at any time

867
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: when I wouldn't have wanted to. Yeah, there was nothing

868
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: else that that I was doing that or have done

869
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: since I've played you know, football, organized football, played you know,

870
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: even a little bit of college football, and none of

871
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: that come close to the enjoyment stuff that I had

872
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: when I was out in them in the woods. So

873
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a mindset or if it's

874
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: just there's so many distracts now, Uh, I don't know.

875
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: It's a it's a hard it's a hard question for

876
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: me to answer, really, and I probably talked two minutes

877
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: now and I hadn't set a durn today. But well,

878
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: you know, folks, that's it's important that that goes back

879
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: to the other thing about me getting enjoyment out of

880
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: watching somebody else go. It's our responsibility, you know. If

881
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: if there is, if if limited opportunities is a portion

882
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: of that, that's that's my fault. I need to step

883
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: up and and and find other people to go and

884
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: and take them and give them the opportunity to at

885
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 2: least give them the opportunity to say, no, I've got

886
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: some folks coming in tomorrow to go coon hunt with me.

887
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm taking coon hut tomorrow night. And they're from uh Manitoba, Canada.

888
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

889
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: They are actually killed a gold bear with them up

890
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: there last May may have last year, and they were

891
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: coming down to visit, just taking a vacation down through

892
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: the States, and I invited them to come and we're

893
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: gonna take them coon hunting and give them a dose

894
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: of that. They probably don't have a lot of coon

895
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: hunting up in Manitoba where they're from. But you know,

896
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 2: not just them. You know, I don't have to find

897
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: somebody from Manitoba that I had never been coon hunting.

898
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 2: I couldn't probably no further than you to be begun,

899
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: find twenty people that live behind me in this neighborhood

900
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: out here that had never been either. Now, if they

901
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: want to go, they're more than welcome to go with me.

902
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: So I need to do a better job of getting

903
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: that word out that I'm available to take fulks and

904
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: you know what I can And when I say I'm

905
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: talking about the you know, sports and all of us,

906
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: all of us need to do that.

907
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I have those same cinnamon uh

908
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: of opinion, Like you said, not enough mentors. You know,

909
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they don't have grandpa or dad around to

910
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: take them, take them to the woods. These kids maybe

911
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: opportunity like property, you know, maybe they don't have access

912
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: to to the woods, you know that we had. You know,

913
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: lots of folks live in cities and the less maybe

914
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: country lifestyles these days compared to when we were young.

915
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: And sure so that that that's a challenge, you know,

916
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: to to drive from the big city out to to

917
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: the woods. It may be it's like a big trip.

918
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not just a let's run out

919
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: there for a few hours.

920
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that that and that is you're absolutely correct.

921
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: That only goes so far. It's just like uh, people

922
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: you say on the news breaking the law or being

923
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: wild or you know, saying you know why in the

924
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: world wild somebody do that? Well, at some point you

925
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: gotta you got to take possession of yourself. And if

926
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: you're old enough to know what's going on around you,

927
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: and you know that life ain't easy and there may

928
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: be some struggle to it, and you have to work

929
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: and save and scrimp and do without something to be

930
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: able to go hunt and fish, to go do these

931
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: kind of things. Well, that you put in the effort,

932
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: it's dang well worth it. In anything worth having, it

933
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't be easy. You should have to work for it. It

934
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: should be hard because it's going to make you value

935
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: that thing that much more. That's the reason you guys

936
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: can pack sixty pound packs and walk forty miles chasing

937
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: elk and then tow the dead elk out, you know,

938
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: one pack at a time. I mean, that's because you

939
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: work for it, because that is not easy, and you

940
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: sacrifice things for that you sacrifice ice cream and French

941
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: fries and time away from home to prepare yourself to

942
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: do that kind of stuff. So you know, if you're

943
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: living in the city or and you don't have those opportunities,

944
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: eventually you will and eventually you can make those opportunities yourself.

945
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: And that would be my advice to anybody would be

946
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: to seek out the conservation organizations around because there's somebody

947
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: there that is going to help you. There's somebody there,

948
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: and we shouldn't wait for them to come find us.

949
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: We need to go find them because there could be

950
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: you know, there could be a mentor right around the

951
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: corner just begging, wanting to take somebody to do something

952
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: and just not knowing that the opportunity is there. So

953
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: all of it don't fall on us. Some of it

954
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: falls on the folks that want to go.

955
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a lot of people message me that

956
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: have moved to the West from Xyz State and they

957
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: never ill hunted or have never hunted whatever mule there

958
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: or whatever hunted in Western animals and they're like, you know,

959
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm in this particular.

960
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: Area, how do I.

961
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start. And I say

962
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: exactly that you know, to reach out to the you know,

963
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: get involved with your local conservation groups, you know, whether

964
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: it's out here, you know, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation or

965
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: or Mule Deer Foundation. Yes, some limit we got those.

966
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: I mean there's and you're going to find like mind

967
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: people and sportsmen and someone is probably going to be

968
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: willing to help mentor you or get you in the

969
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: right direction. And same with archery clubs and shotgun clubs.

970
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm not aware of one wildlife agency at

971
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: least none in the States that I've been to that

972
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: don't have some type of program for beginner hunters. Number

973
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: Number one, they need to sell that personal license because

974
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: the license feeds are what fund the work that they do.

975
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: So they they're they're trying to recruit folks. And there's

976
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 2: program I know, the Arkansas Game and Fish has an

977
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: excellent program for youth hunters and first time hunters. Uh uh,

978
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: women hunters. You know, they have all these programs where

979
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: they can there there got somebody there who's a professional

980
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: that's putting on seminars and classes and field trips and

981
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: they do a really great job. So the and because

982
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: we have cell phones and all this access to the information. Now,

983
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: hunting up a place to learn how to go do

984
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: something or have the opportunity to go do something can

985
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: really be done from the couch, you know. Wh while

986
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: we're sitting here talking, you know, I can be looking

987
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: at anything on the internet. Uh as far as what

988
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: we're talking about here, you know, the game and gaming

989
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: fish stuff. So there's there's programs out there in private

990
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: groups that with just a little effort, you know, you

991
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: can you can get out there and go. So my

992
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 2: always people I have. I have a lot of folks

993
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: the same that send me messages and invite me to

994
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: go places, some wonderful places, and there's no way in

995
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: a lifetime I'd be able to accept and go to

996
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: all those places that I get offered to. But I

997
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: always ask them, you know, if I can't go, take

998
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: somebody else, you know, take somebody that had never been,

999
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: or take a kid. And a lot of them will

1000
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: have reached back eye to me and say, you know,

1001
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: we did that, and now this guy's you know, doing good,

1002
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 2: or this lady's doing good, you know, and coming back

1003
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: next year. So it's I don't know, it's just good.

1004
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: I love talking about this kind of stuff because there's

1005
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 2: just so much opportunity out there. And I think the answer,

1006
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: my original answer was lack of opportunity, and I think

1007
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: it may be a better way to phrase it would

1008
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: be a lack of knowing how to find the opportunity.

1009
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it.

1010
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I've always you know. Will Primos

1011
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: said this a long time ago on an elk film.

1012
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: He said, if you teach someone to love something, they're

1013
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: gonna want to protect it.

1014
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: Right, Oh for sure. So absolutely.

1015
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: As hunter, I feel like, especially us guys who are

1016
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: in the in the business or in the world of

1017
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: providing content and you know, and trying to be a

1018
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: positive example out here, it's our I feel like it's

1019
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: our job to kind of like teach people to love

1020
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: the things that we love. It's funny though, because online

1021
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: on on in the Internet and people are like, hey,

1022
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: you guys are ruining elk hunting. You guys are ruining

1023
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: this hunting, that hunting. But because they've probably seen more

1024
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: people in there, in there in their elk hunting spot

1025
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, which I can, I can, I can relate.

1026
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: I I have more people in my hunting spots than ever.

1027
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: But like you look at big picture, and man, we're

1028
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: fighting an uphill battle as hunters. You know, It's it's

1029
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: not common, especially for folks who are removed from the country.

1030
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: The folks city folks, nothing wrong with them, but they

1031
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: they're just so far removed from their relationship with the

1032
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: wild and outdoor world that whether they have opinion, if

1033
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: they're against hunting or for it. Like, man, we got

1034
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: to get as many people fighting for it, then they

1035
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: have fighting against it. Because the people who fight against

1036
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: it they love those animals too, but in a different

1037
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: way and to where they want to protect them. We

1038
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: want to protect them so we can all everyone can

1039
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: enjoy them.

1040
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and then also, I mean, having too much

1041
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: of something is never a good thing, yea. You know,

1042
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: you have to have it what the landscape supports. And

1043
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: that's that's what the biologists and all the folks working

1044
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: there are figuring out. You know, we can't have un

1045
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: regulated hunting seasons, you know, like you know the stuff

1046
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 2: that they're having with all the grizzly bears, you know,

1047
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: because I mean, you know more about that than I

1048
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: do because you live up there where you can't hunt them,

1049
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 2: and you it looks like you are to be able to,

1050
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: but I don't know that's and but education is the key,

1051
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: and being willing able to listen and you know, have

1052
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: some common sense and look at things instead of looking

1053
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: at them romantically, looking at them scientifically. That is, you know,

1054
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: the best thing to do. You know, my grandfather told

1055
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: me that common sense ain't common And the older I get,

1056
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 2: the more true that appears to be.

1057
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 1: I see it every day. Yeah, you shake your head.

1058
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what's what's really going on here?

1059
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, do you have any closing thoughts on turkey

1060
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: hunting or or uh uh or anything you know, and

1061
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: then your in your in your country life that you'd

1062
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: like to to drive home the point on. I feel

1063
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: like that last little little bit man that was pretty good.

1064
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: Well, you know, uh, I just appreciate the fun. I

1065
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: appreciate you having me on here, an opportunity to talk

1066
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: to maybe some folks that I haven't been able to

1067
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 2: talk to. Hope they'll go over there and check it out.

1068
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: But the main thing I want them to do is to,

1069
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: you know, take a take some time and if take

1070
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: some kids out, take some folks that don't get to

1071
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Speaker 2: go out. If you get that opportunity to you know,

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Speaker 2: and you ain't got to go hunt, you ain't got

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Speaker 2: to go shoot animal. Just go out there with a

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Speaker 2: camera or a pair of binoculars and look at stuff

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Speaker 2: and learn about the things that are around you. There's

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Speaker 2: so many things that are so interesting and so fragile

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Speaker 2: around is that the more we're educated about it, the

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Speaker 2: more we're going to uh to take care of it.

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Speaker 2: Just like mister Will said, you know, you learn to

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Speaker 2: love something, then you want to protect it. And we've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of stuff out here that's that's worth

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Speaker 2: loving and worth protecting and worth sharing with other folks.

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Speaker 2: So I just hope, I hope folks will vote for

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Speaker 2: me when this Turkey thing, this Turkey contest comes and

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Speaker 2: Clay is not allowed to. I think he I think

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Speaker 2: he's used to having I think he did the election

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Speaker 2: model they use in North Korea. I think that's pretty

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Speaker 2: well what he used last time. So remember, Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: was some buffoonery on the high seas that went on

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Speaker 2: during that. So vote for It's r E A V

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Speaker 2: E s if you have to. If you're ride in

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Speaker 2: your ballots for the Turkey calling contest, don't do double a.

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Speaker 2: That's the other other folks. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So where else can folks find you besides the Bear Grease,

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Speaker 1: this Country Life podcast? Where else can they find you?

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Speaker 1: Are you on socials?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Man, Instagram is Brent Underscore Reeves. Are you? And

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Speaker 2: just my name and beautiful picture on Facebook? I'll find

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Speaker 2: you out. I don't do the TikTok thing. I'm not yet. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I don't, Clay. That's where he's getting all

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Speaker 1: these votes. He's like running a muck on TikTok.

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Speaker 2: That's probably what it is. So no, I don't do

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Speaker 2: the TikTok thing, and I'm not going to if I

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Speaker 2: didn't do Now, I'll say this, and then I'm going

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Speaker 2: to tell you what my wife told me. If I

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Speaker 2: didn't have this job, I probably wouldn't do much social media.

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Speaker 2: But my wife says, if I didn't do social media,

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Speaker 2: I would go if there wasn't no such thing as

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Speaker 2: social media, I would drive around door to door try

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Speaker 2: to make people laugh. So I don't know. I just

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Speaker 2: I try to bring a little joy. And there's one

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Speaker 2: thing about my show. You know, the folks that hadn't

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Speaker 2: You can listen to it anywhere, anytime, with anybody. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you won't ever hear any bad words or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: The kids can listen, and a lot of folks listen

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Speaker 2: to it with your kids, which is really good, and

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Speaker 2: I'm very proud of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you coming on here and sharing.

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Speaker 2: So who pays me for this? You or Jason? Who

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Speaker 2: pays them for this? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think Jason Phelps. Okay, he's kind of tight, kind

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Speaker 1: of a tight wad.

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Speaker 2: He's a real tight one.

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Speaker 1: I know you, all right, Well, we'll catch you on

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Speaker 1: the next one. We'll see I'll probably see you this

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Speaker 1: summer sometime at a big meeting or something and absolutely

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Speaker 1: swap a few tails then too. So all right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: thank you,