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Speaker 1: What for everybody? Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast from

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Speaker 1: It's NFL Week seventeen, got player projections for you. As always,

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Speaker 1: I'll be momentarily joined by one of the most accurate

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Speaker 1: flex Happy Holidays. Kerner, who we got for the cardio

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Speaker 1: kings for Week sixteen, which are for anyone unfamiliar with

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Speaker 1: the guys who ran the most amount of routes without

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Speaker 2: Kids were just running around sway too much.

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Speaker 1: Got you and the base case run and run in

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Speaker 2: Run and run you all ground me. You'll king. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Happy holidays, array bon and yeah the cardio kings last week,

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Speaker 2: this is this is so much fun because tight end.

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Speaker 2: Uh it was Noah Gray fourteen routes, no targets, boring, uh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean shouts to him, because he had more

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Speaker 1: two week is just real tough to project and with

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Speaker 1: we'll get into our top five guys were high and

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Speaker 1: Five Quarterbacks Week seventeen, Championship Fantasy Championship Week.

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Speaker 2: Who got yeah? So number one? I have Drake May.

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Speaker 1: Who I got yeah, Drake May number one, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and Brock Purty number five. Dak is number six, So Purty,

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Speaker 1: I guess coming off that five touchdown game, he's he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm high on Trevor Lawrence. And I will say,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor Lawrence, I mean I was I was impressed

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Last week, I again I went like six and six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Saints, I mean they have no running backs at

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Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be much much tougher

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Speaker 2: I would trust Tyler Shuck over him right now. That's

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Speaker 1: The NFL schedule makers have been really good this year.

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Speaker 1: all right. Running back top five, we got I.

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Speaker 2: Got Jamior Gibbs, CMC, Bijon, Jonathan Taylor, and James Cook.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Gibbs, mccaffe, Bijon Cook, Taylor. So which is there?

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Speaker 2: top five. I have Ashton Genty at RB six. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: do you have Dubdell opening up in your ranks?

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Speaker 1: Actually? I like the Panthers this week. I think they

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Speaker 1: just because yeah, I think Hubbard's still a good, good

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00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: bet for that passing game works, which just kind of

432
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: complicates matters. All right, I'm all on a Kareem Hunt.

433
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of bring him up because

434
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, he he's the guy that I think people

435
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: were starting for a while there, and now his last

436
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: couple of games, I think you pointed out, like a

437
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: couple of games ago, it was Isaiah Pacheco kind of

438
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: took over that lead role. Did absolutely nothing. But still

439
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: I think is notable because you know, just looking at

440
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: my like expected touchdown model, Pachaco was finally starting to

441
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: pop over Hunt, and that's that's worrisome because that's all

442
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: Hunt really gives you. So I just think Hunt is

443
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: like a non entity this week going up against Denver.

444
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: I know, Kansas City, you'll probably give a better effort.

445
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, it was bad against the Titans, but I

446
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: mean Hunt, I mean was just got tackled to the

447
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: It's like the everlasting image of the chief decline now

448
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: is just like Hunt getting just swammed in the end

449
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: z by Jeffrey Sibbons, no blocking whatsoever. They're still holding.

450
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: Like this offense still is, you know, probably going to

451
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: be the worst offense of Week seventeen, given the quarterback

452
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: situation and the still receivers out. So yeah, I think

453
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: Hunt is completely off the radar. Aaron Jones I'm well

454
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: on too, but that's all dependent on who goes. If

455
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: he goes and Mason doesn't, then I think he's in

456
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: a good spot. I know he had a big workload

457
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: last week, but not a great matchup for Detroit most weeks.

458
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: I know Hunt Gainwell and Warren Warren just kept going

459
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: forty five yard runs. But I think this Viking O

460
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: line mixed with Brosmer mixed with the point total not

461
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: loving anyone on that offense this week. But again it's

462
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: dependent on if Mason sits. I think Jones will be

463
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: much more acceptable than if he goes. Running back prop

464
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: week seventeen, we got, Yeah, let's.

465
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: Go with Kenneth Gainwell here, who has been unbelievable. You're

466
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: gonna have to tell Stucky, he tweeted out. Since when

467
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: was Kenneth Gamell the best player in the league tell him,

468
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: I said two weeks ago, So for two weeks now

469
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: he's been the best player. But last week I was

470
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: high on him. He ended up being my RB twenty one,

471
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: which is like plus five over EASR. But this is

472
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: an interesting spot because he's facing you know, the Browns,

473
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: which has been a matchup we've kind of avoided earlier

474
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: in the season. But they've been struggling against back slightly,

475
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: so I'm not as worried about this matchup. Kind of

476
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: want to hear your thoughts on this matchup overall and

477
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: where you have him projected for just total total when

478
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: it comes to game Well, we got to do total yards,

479
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: so total rushing and receiving yards against the Browns here.

480
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna I'm gonna go with over under sixty

481
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: two and a half.

482
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: I got a sixty two.

483
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: Uh oh boy.

484
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an interesting matchup. I think the Browns

485
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: could be a little bit, uh be a little bit

486
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: feisty here, you know, divisional matchup in Cleveland back probably

487
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: some weather late in the year. Pittsburgh. Uh, what is

488
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's situation now? They their playoff situation like they cause

489
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: they they are a game some more now two games.

490
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Ravens loss was huge, So they're two games,

491
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: two games up. They didn't clinch technically though, right, No,

492
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: not clinch. They certainly control their own destiny though that

493
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 2: way that Ravens games meaningless next week yep. If they lose,

494
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: they're playing for the division next week.

495
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is so yeah, So this is one

496
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: of those spots where you love to fade because like

497
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: you have to fade the team that's playing for something

498
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: that's that's it's kind of counterintuitive. So yeah, I think, yeah,

499
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: the Stairs could struggle here a little bit. I wouldn't

500
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: be surprised sixty Yeah, I gotta, I gotta go under,

501
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: just because I do have it at sixty two on

502
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: the average betweams of meetings a little lower. It's like

503
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,239
Speaker 1: he's just so good in the past game too. But

504
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: it could be a spot where I mean, I know

505
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: I do expect them to trail more than usual, but

506
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: just given the situation, I do think they try to

507
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: keep the ball on the ground here and that that

508
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: usage has kind of gone up and down. And they

509
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: also had Johnson and active last we wonder if he's

510
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I guess we'll be back active with probably a run

511
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: heavy script, but Hayward is stealing some of those short

512
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: yardage carries and so are the tight ends. So yeah, yeah,

513
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: I'll go I'll go under, just because I don't know

514
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: where I have him, like eight carries, I don't know

515
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: exactly where he's where he's gonna be in the run game,

516
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: and this might not be like a huge receiving type

517
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: of shit. But yeah, that's a good one. I have

518
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: a sixty two exactly.

519
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also the element of DKs out and Calvin

520
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: Austin's Yeah, so it's like they might have to use

521
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: him even more. And if you think about it, like Warren,

522
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: all those forty five yard touchdown runs wiped out potential

523
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: plays for GAMELL along the way. So a lot of

524
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: yeah pieces here, a lot of moving pieces. But yeah,

525
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: he I think he's a guy that we can kind

526
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: of treat as you know, like a low end RB

527
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: two this week, which is crazy with Warren playing well

528
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: as you know at the same time.

529
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have him RB twenty six and Warren twenty one,

530
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: so I have Yeah, it's it's they're both right there,

531
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: but you're right, I might yeah, I might have to

532
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: increase their projected rush rate with with Metcalf out because

533
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how I mean, what are they gonna

534
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: who are they gonna throw to? Like thean and mbs like.

535
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: The Rob Nelson might be active, but still that's a

536
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: poverty tighten the too.

537
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a big backs and tight endsgain.

538
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's good on their offense. They they

539
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: held off the Lions last week, so now they now

540
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: they in this spot. Yeah, I think they'll eat on

541
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: those backs and tight ends again. So it might might

542
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: end up being over this by the end of the week,

543
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: but I'll still I'll still go under here just because that's.

544
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: Where I have it.

545
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Uh, all right, Wide Receiver Top five Week number seventeen.

546
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: We got I got Hookah Nakua, Jamar Chase, j s

547
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: n am On Raw and Cede lamb Oh.

548
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Pookah has finally taken over for JSN so Puoka,

549
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: JSN Jamar, Chase A mon Rot and Chris Olave. Baby

550
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: there's o Lave. Yeah. I didn't. I didn't think I

551
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: see him here this season, but good on him over.

552
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: I was really scared that he was going to get

553
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: like a concussion and just like end his career. I

554
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: think he talked about that, but yeah, he's been, Uh

555
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: he's been excellent. Who he high on for Week seventeen, Yeah.

556
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Love just missed my top five. He's my wide receiver seven,

557
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: so super high on him as well. But uh, the

558
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: guy I'm high on that I want to talk about

559
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: is Jacoby Myers, who opens up as my wide receiver

560
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: nineteen against the Colts here, and he's coming out sort

561
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: of a down game for him, four catches for forty

562
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: five yards, no touchdowns, but that was you know, a

563
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: tougher matchup against the Broncos and that that game was

564
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: essentially his floor right now for the Jaguars. So you know,

565
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: four catches for forty five yards been a dud is

566
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: a good thing in my opinion, because he's he's been

567
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: really good ever since, you know, he was traded the Jaguars.

568
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: He's been the wide receiver sixteen and that's you know,

569
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: he's got to learn the playbook, he's got to develop

570
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: chemistry with Trevor Lawrence. So I would expect him to get,

571
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: you know, better and better the more integrated he is

572
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: in this offense. And you know, this week they're they're

573
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: facing a Colts defense that just got you know, torched

574
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: by brock Perty and the Niners who threw for five touchdowns.

575
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: You know, Juwan Jennings had a big game. So with

576
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, Trevor Lawrence playing at a high level right now,

577
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: this game's indoors don't need to worry about the weather.

578
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: I think Jacoby Myers is like a no legit wide

579
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: receiver two heading in the finals week, who's again he's

580
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: going to provide you a high floor. I think you

581
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: know he's going to have a bigger game this week.

582
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: But he's just been kind of a pleasant surprise on

583
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: how his season ended up, you know, ending up in Jacksonville,

584
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: kind of at the same time where Trevor Lawrence is

585
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: having a career year. So I think Jacoby Myers is

586
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: one of those guys. It's that's a must start this week.

587
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that whole that whole offense is

588
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean in a really good spot this week. I

589
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, you're, like you said, indoors against

590
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: the defense coming off a short week. I mean it's

591
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: it's just tailor made for the and weam come stock

592
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: going way up because the Bucks have still been struggling

593
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: even though they are all the receivers are that, which

594
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: is kind of surprised, and I think, I mean, I

595
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: thought I thought they would play a lot better last

596
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: week against the PA It started off one and just

597
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: boom downhill. So I'm I'm hiding a couple of guys

598
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: in that game too, Thomas and Michael Pittman. I think

599
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: both of those guys, uh, you know, Mike with Brian Thomas,

600
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: I think it's last week was kind of a predictable,

601
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: uh dud against the Denver Broncos because you figured he

602
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: would kind of draw most most of that'sirtaan coverage. So

603
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I think he's in a good spot along with with Myers,

604
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: uh just every and you know Parker Washington can't go

605
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: for one hundred and fifty yards every game, I don't

606
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. I think I think kind of like

607
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: a bounce back spot for both of those guys. And

608
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: it was Pittman. I mean, he's you know, he's kind

609
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: of been that top target all year for the Colts.

610
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: And you know, now that we know Rivers is not

611
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: just completely incapable of sing the football, I think Pittman

612
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: is in a good spot back a home here against Jacksonville,

613
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: So like him as well to bounce back here. And

614
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings also he's like my inch and towards my

615
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: top twelve. Depending on if George Kittle misses, he would yeah,

616
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: he probably would be right there in that top in

617
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: that top twelve, right or right outside it. So yeah,

618
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: like Jennings as well. Who are we all on for

619
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Week seventeen at wide receiver?

620
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm low on a Mecca Abuka against the Dolphins and

621
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: I think you know, last week I mentioned I was

622
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: down on him and made a bigger point as well

623
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: my tears piece that sometimes the market just tends to

624
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 2: look at production when it comes younger players and not

625
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: really taking an account when they might be playing closer

626
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: to their ceiling or floor when it comes to usage.

627
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: But with a Buka, I think he's a perfect example

628
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: of that because you know, he was, you know, arguably

629
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: the top wide receiver from this year's class, but he

630
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: landed in you know, crowded wide receiver room with the Bucks.

631
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: But you know, he had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and

632
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan all out at the same time for multiple weeks,

633
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: so he was you know, a legit wide receiver one

634
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: over that time and then people are like wondering why

635
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: he's fallen off. Well, it's because everybody's healthy, and even

636
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: Jayleen McMillan being back has really impacted his playing time,

637
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy to me because you know,

638
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: last week we saw Abuca's route zone rate drop to

639
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: fifty percent. McMillan was ahead of him at sixty three percent,

640
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: so he did you know, Buka had a catch for

641
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: forty yards. You know, he's still a very talented rookie,

642
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: but it's really hard to trust him now with everybody

643
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: healthy and kind of like you mentioned the the Bucks.

644
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing. Everybody's healthy, but they

645
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: had a really extreme run heavy approach last week, just

646
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: pounding Bucky Irving for you know, minimal gains for some reason.

647
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: But you know, Bukah's all the way down to wide

648
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: receiver forty six for me. So he's one of those

649
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: players where he probably helped you get to the finals

650
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: because you know, he was wide receiver eight overall for

651
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: the first ten weeks of the season. But you just

652
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: have to consider the context of that where you know

653
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: just his usage is gonna be much much lower with

654
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: everybody healthy. Sobuca's probably a sit in most leagues for me,

655
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: despite being you know, very talented, but just really hard

656
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: to trust him this week in a must win type game.

657
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's my wide receiver fifty two, So I'm right there,

658
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: right there, which I mean, it's there's only there's just

659
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: not as much production to go around there for that

660
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: Bucks offense as you would think. I mean, I thought

661
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: they would. I thought they would be more efficient. Maybe

662
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: maybe Baker's hurt. I mean, I know he got like

663
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: banged up earlier in the year and he had some

664
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't scrambling for a while, and then he kind

665
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: of looked like it was going to return to normal

666
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: for a week. But yeah, I wonder if that's It's

667
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: gotta be something like that, because there's no other reason

668
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: why he would be dropping off this much. Uh yeah,

669
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: and why they would go so run heavy.

670
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: Some of his throws have looked really bad where he

671
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: has like no pressure, no reason for so he could

672
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: be just playing through something that we don't know about.

673
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's looked off for quite some time now.

674
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm on Khuel Shakir this week. Just a guy that

675
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: I tend to avoid against defenses that are man heavier

676
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: in nature. I think the Eagles do qualify as one

677
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: of those teams. They're one of the most man heavy

678
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: teams in the league. And she cares. It's kind of

679
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: been all over the place with him in terms of

680
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: the routes run rate, but Buffalo is just really focusing

681
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: in on their tight ends running backs most weeks, and

682
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: this could be another one of those matchups. Dalton Kaka

683
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: did absolutely nothing last week. I was on the injury

684
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: report that he ended up playing, but Buffalo is always

685
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: weird with guys with injuries, so I think he could

686
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: bounce back. So Shakir, I mean his route rate dropped

687
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: to I think it was like sixty percent if I'm

688
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: not mistakenhwhere that range.

689
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's.

690
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: It's you know, sometimes he doesn't get those one to

691
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: one personnel snaps, and two of the last three weeks

692
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: he's been under sixty five percent route rate, so less

693
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: than two thirds of the pass snaps for Shakir. So

694
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: that's just gonna lead to kind of very volatile production

695
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: and game against the Eagles where they'll probably want to

696
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: run and they'll probably just continue to rely on their

697
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends Shakir. I think he's just borderline

698
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: top forty this week, I may end up drop it

699
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: even lower. And Buffalo. I mean, I think they just

700
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: lost confidence in every week they're just like a new

701
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: new new set of receivers. But she cares been the constant,

702
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: but just not a good matchup for him in this

703
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: spot wide receiver prop Oh, it goes Stefon Diggs. Actually

704
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: he's a he's a tough projection just because his routes

705
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: run rate really has just been all over the place

706
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: this year. We know he was managing an injury, popped

707
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: off for the big game and last week, but now

708
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: you're thirteen and a half point favorites at the Jets.

709
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: So curiously to where you're where you have Digs, I'm

710
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: gonna go with a receiving yardage line of forty four

711
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: and a half.

712
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: Let's see. Yeah, I haven't ride around there, but Booty

713
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: is probably closer. Booty's up in the air, right, That's

714
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: all I gotta say. So, I think that's going to

715
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: be a huge spike in You know, Kyle Williams, you

716
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: said who you know has looked pretty good, But I

717
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: think Diggs is going to see a bump, So yeah,

718
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: I'll take over. I think that's a good line. But yeah,

719
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: just just with the uncertainty with Booty. And you know,

720
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: Diggs had an eighty percent routes run rate last week,

721
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: so I'll take us over here.

722
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's it's just tough to project because his

723
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: routes run rate kind of fluctuates and it's never really

724
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: at the level of a true number one receiver. But

725
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: it's like eighty percent is usually good enough to weed

726
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots, which is really all the matter is if

727
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: you're just distributing the usage of may who's our what

728
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: quarterback one this week? So a lot of moving parts,

729
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: but yeah, have him over that is well. So yeah,

730
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: you took overs on both of mine and I'm not

731
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: not pleased with that.

732
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: And Matt Collins could be a wide receiver three this week,

733
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 2: kind of a seay wide receiver three if Booty's out especially,

734
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's man, he's been pretty like low key

735
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: good this year.

736
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean really few years now. He's always

737
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: like a guy you kind of right off and then

738
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: he's ends up with a arting job and fairly productive.

739
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it was that year against with the Raiders.

740
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: He was pretty good too, ye and then I guess

741
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: he's back on McDaniels. But maybe it's just a Josh

742
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: McDaniels yeah thing. But I mean, man, Patriots, Patriots are right.

743
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: Atriot's looking good all right. Tight end Week seventeen, we

744
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: got top five.

745
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just assuming Kittles out just to spice

746
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: up my top five. So I'm going with Trey McBride,

747
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers, Kyle Pitts, Colby Parkinson, and Harold fan Jr.

748
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: That is Yeah, that's a certainly spicy top five. I

749
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: have a root Kittle out, but I did knock him.

750
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: I kind of put him like fifty to fifty, so

751
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: I got him splitting with ton Just and Farrell. So

752
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: he's out of my top five as well. So I

753
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: got McBride, Bowers, Howard Fanning number three because why not,

754
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts number four because why not? And then Juan

755
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: Johnson baby, oh wow, didn't think i'd see him here.

756
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah he is is.

757
00:39:59,280 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

758
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: This is the This would be a fun week if

759
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: if if Kittle miss because I have Juwan Johnson and

760
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren's climbing back up because Rivers, I guess it

761
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: was decent yep. And then Brenton Strange is in the

762
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: mix and they will see about I'll see what happens

763
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: with like the Bears receivers. I think love Wind could

764
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: end up popping. But yeah, it's a it's a it's

765
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: kind of a crowded tight end week though, so it's yeah,

766
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: we should talk about some of these guys. Who are

767
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: you high on?

768
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it sounds like we're both high on Juwan

769
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: Johnson because he's inside my top ten as well against

770
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: the Titans. But you know, he was essentially playing every

771
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 2: snap earlier in the season and he was like an

772
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: every week tight end one for us during that stretch.

773
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: But you know, he's cooled off a bit just with

774
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: everyone healthy, but he's still putting up solid numbers and

775
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: last week eight catches eighty nine yards. I already mentioned

776
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: the Saints went with just an extreme pass heavy approach,

777
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: so I think, yeah, if el Kamara's out again this week,

778
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: they might stick with that. Even Kamara's back, they might

779
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: stick with that because Tyler Schuck's playing at a high

780
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: level right now. But you know, Fosster Moros already been

781
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: ruled out, so we could see Juan get an uptick

782
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: in at least playing time when it comes to his routes,

783
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: run rate, and outside of chrysal Lava, no one's really

784
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: commanding targets in this offense, so it's it's just funneling

785
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: them to Olave and Juwan right now. So yeah, he

786
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: opens up the week. Is my tight end nine?

787
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, baby, Juan Johnson coming on strong down the stretch,

788
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: shuck looking good.

789
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: Love it.

790
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: I don't know Tyler Warren as well as Juan, and

791
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of you know, I think everyone

792
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: was really really well on this Colts passing game, which

793
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean Rivers threw for one hundred and twenty yards

794
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: in his first start, so you can't really blame people.

795
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: But I do think that the Colts offense always showed

796
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: that they can be functional here and now, you know,

797
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: at home against Jacksonville. I think it's a good spot.

798
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: You know, Jacksonville tends to play a lot of zone defense,

799
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: so I think, especially with Piers kind of going off

800
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: and we're making them respect the deep ball, I think

801
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: Warren is in a good spot to be productive here.

802
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: And I still like the fact that he can, you know,

803
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: get some goal line rush attempts and things like that.

804
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: If it's not Taylor, you know, River's not really as

805
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: much of a threat there as a guy Daniel Jones

806
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: was so Trevor Warren, Tyler Warren, excuse me trending back

807
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: up upward this week?

808
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: For me?

809
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Who are we low on at tight end?

810
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: I'm a lowell hunt. Travis Kelcey who opens up as

811
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: my tight end twenty four not what you were hoping

812
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: for if you drafted him inside the top ten. I

813
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: called that the frozen pon tier anyway, So I don't

814
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: know you would have been doing that. But you know,

815
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: his eye obviously took a massive hit once Pator Mahomes

816
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: went down with the torn acl but now Gardner Minshew's

817
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: also out for the season within the injury. And Kelsey,

818
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: I mean he had rock Bob last week one catch

819
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: for six yards. Now it's going to be either Chris

820
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: Eliitakin or Shane Bouchelle under center this week. So you know,

821
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: things are pretty rough in Casey, and you know the

822
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: Broncos have been giving up some pretty good games to

823
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: tight end. So this isn't you know, a matchup you

824
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: gotta avoid, But you know, this is just a shit

825
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: show when it comes to Kelsey and you're heading in

826
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: the finals week, there's so many other better tight ends

827
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: out there potentially that I would lean on him. So yeah,

828
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: he's my tight end twenty four to open the week.

829
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: But I am projecting, you know, Rashid Rice to return,

830
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: so Rice could easily be held out this week and

831
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: then Kelsey's rankle shoot up a bit. But I don't

832
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be inside my top twelve this week

833
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: either way, just given the quarterback uncertainty and just you know,

834
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: they're out of the playoff contention. Maybe Week eighteen, you know,

835
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: could be his last game ever. Maybe they just spam

836
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: him with targets then. But this week I'm certainly low

837
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: on him.

838
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I should because he I have,

839
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: like all I got those guys all back, like now

840
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: fully back, but I kind of have them like all

841
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: like all the cheapers. He was just like splitting everything

842
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: on like well fifty fifty years Rice, I have more

843
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: like seventy five percent if he's back, and and uh yeah,

844
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: it's still like Kelsey is still my Titan eighteen. And

845
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: if I dropped him to like out, it still doesn't

846
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: really go up that much. It'll be like a borderline

847
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: Top fifteen type type tight end. But yeah, it's it's rough. Uh,

848
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: it's rough for Kelsey. I mean the Chiefs team is

849
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: like it's like a pre They just feel feeling like

850
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: these preseason ish rosters. Like I was saying, you know

851
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: when I was writing up the game last week, like

852
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: this is like this would probably be Titans favored if

853
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: like last week, if it was if they didn't have reputation.

854
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's you don't want to go off

855
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: Kelsey's reputation in this uh in this spot. Who I'm

856
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: on Mark Andrews too, Uh, you know, been trying to

857
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: hold out for him, but like with this Lamar Jackson uncertainty,

858
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: and Green Bay is still one of the better defenses

859
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: in the league. And Andrews and Isaiah likely were last

860
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: two weeks, they've been right around the same route participation rate,

861
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: right around fifty five percent. That is a downtick for

862
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: for Mark Andrews, who usually is around the seventy seventy

863
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: ish percent range. So that's concerning. I think they'll probably

864
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: want to win on the run game either way here,

865
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: and we've seen likely Cardio King in a couple of

866
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, I think, so that is Andrews

867
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: could easily end up doing that. So yeah, just wow,

868
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: on this Baltimore passing game, it's just really hard to

869
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: trust anybody, you know, for them with the with the

870
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, even with Lamar in there, they've they've still

871
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: kind of been up and down. So Andrews kind of

872
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: him and Kelsey, I think we started the season kind

873
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: of ify on them, like what the hell do you

874
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: do with these guys in that mid range? And it

875
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: was started trend up mid season and then now it's

876
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: we're right back here where it's like, all right, I

877
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: probably feel better about Tyer Warren than both of them again,

878
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, here we are tight end prop we got.

879
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Let's go with Jake Ferguson here, who was the tight

880
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: end one overall after the first seven weeks of the season.

881
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: But similar to kind of my point with a Buka,

882
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: context matters because three of those games, right, three or

883
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: four of them, Seedee Lamb was out, so naturally, you know,

884
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: Ferguson's target rate was going to go up quite a bit.

885
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: But he's cooled off a lot since then, and I

886
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: have him right around the cusp of you know, a

887
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: start tight end, So curious kind of where you have

888
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: him projected and more importantly where his receiving yard projection

889
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: is for you. But I'm going to go with and

890
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: he's facing the Commanders this week, I'm going to go

891
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: with thirty five and a half as my problem I have.

892
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: That's a good line. I have him right there. There's

893
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: just not a lot of tight ends I feel good about.

894
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: So he's actually still inside my top ten. Good matchup

895
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: for him, So yeah, I'm.

896
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: Gonna go over.

897
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over. I do think Pickens is, like

898
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: you said, trying to chase those incentives. But it's it's

899
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: just one of these weeks where there's a lot of

900
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: tight ends in this in this glut, and so I

901
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: do have ranked high. But yeah, as far as far

902
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: as his matchup from Flinoy Cavante Turpin, two guys that

903
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: kind of fill that void, uh normally, as you know,

904
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: potential number three targets are are iffy to go. And

905
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: then Javonte Williams also as on the injury report with

906
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: that next issue and yeah, kind of led to a

907
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: big downtick in passing game production for him. So I

908
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: still have Ferguson kind of taking that that third spot

909
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: behind Lamb and Pickens here. So yeah, having about four

910
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: four and a half catches for forty yards, like no,

911
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: no real efficiency, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

912
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: over here. I think, uh, I just think this Washington

913
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: defense is bad enough that.

914
00:47:54,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah we can trust him. Yeah yeah, yeah, go

915
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: either way on this one. But like so when it

916
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: comes to let's say you have him and you have

917
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: access to want to juwan Johnson, who are you starting

918
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: in the finals?

919
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Well, I have Johnson number five? So still Johnson?

920
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: Crazy? Yeah, yeah, I think it's you gotta go Johnson maybe,

921
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: like I can't think of it, Like even if Kamara

922
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: is active, I think you still got to go Johnson.

923
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's coming into the year. I mean

924
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: you would probably said Johnson anyway, right, I mean it

925
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: was I guess both of them were a little bit

926
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: off the radar compared to what they what they produced.

927
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have Johnson. I mean because and the

928
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: thing with Dallas is like, yeah, Dak is already projected

929
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: like he's TB six, So I don't I don't really

930
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: see that the ranks changing a ton because Kamara is

931
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: not really a touchdown guy for New Orleans anyway, so

932
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: it's not like it would like influence the the Johnson

933
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: touchdown for projection much if we changed the running back.

934
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's it's a close but yeah, I

935
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: mean yeah.

936
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: And that's kind of my point when it comes to

937
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: avoiding the frozen pont heer at tight end is people

938
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: tend to cling onto stints from tight ends. Like you know,

939
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: people still remember he was the tight end one after

940
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: week seven or whatever, so probably people probably like hang

941
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: on to him longer than they probably should. So I

942
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: just think when it comes to tight end, unless you

943
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: have like Tran McBride, brock Bowers and George Kittle, you

944
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: kind of have to just be willing to go with

945
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 2: the flow. And the flow is leading us to Juwan

946
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: Johnson this week.

947
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: And like I first of my Titan seven, so like

948
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm high in him too. Actually yeah, there's because I

949
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: still don't know exactly what to do. Like Parkinson, I'm

950
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: a little park my tight end ten. I talk like

951
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: I gotta but I like check the rankings on that

952
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: one because the thing with the rams is there, there's

953
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful when you're projecting them because of

954
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: their like extreme heavy one three usage, So I have

955
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: to I haven't have you seen the updated splits, like

956
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: did they use it more on third down? Again? That's

957
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: why the thing, Uh.

958
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: Do you are you projecting DeVante to play it all? No?

959
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: I still have I heard he was gonna be kind

960
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: of like on the doubtful side. So that's why Parkinson

961
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: would drop to like right my probably outside the top

962
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: fifteen honestly, because it's just you have Ferguson there too,

963
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: and it's really just a matter of like, uh, you know,

964
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: the splits can kind of change depending on like if

965
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: the rams get into like a like a heavy uh

966
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: one two like leading game script, Like it could affect

967
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: Parkinson a little bit because you think it's one two

968
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: where it's Allen and Ferguson and then Parkinson plays most

969
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: of the third downs over fergus No, Ferguson plays most

970
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: of the third downs over Parkinson, So like, depending on

971
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: the splits, it could it could kind of change. So

972
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: he's like a viatal projection even though he's been so good.

973
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's uh, I gotta kind of refine that.

974
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: But right now he's my tight end ten, So yeah,

975
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: Kim Brenton Strange is eleven, so there's a lot of

976
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: guys kind of on that border line. Yeah, and then

977
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Lovelin depends on what happens with Duneesday and Burden. So yeah,

978
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving parts in the ranks. But

979
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: I also know a little bit weller on Dallas Goddard

980
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz this week just because of the matchup.

981
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I still have Ferguson inside my top twelve,

982
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 2: but Schultz is somebody that's been inside my top ten

983
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: for a few weeks now, and he yeah, he's down

984
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: to tight end sixteen. So there's just there's so many

985
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: guys in the sit start range that you just got

986
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: to wait as long as possible for our ranks to update,

987
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: for news to happen things like that, to like actually

988
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: lock in who your tight end is going to be

989
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: this week.

990
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Taysom Hills got like a kind of

991
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: a tough projection too because he could do nothing or

992
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: with his like ten carries, but then you can also

993
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: throw a touchdown and so yeah, he's another one that

994
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: might move up, but I still have him pretty well,

995
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. But yeah, check the ranks.

996
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Tight end. Tough week. But I mean if you're hopefully

997
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: you have been streaming because yeah, like we said, if

998
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: you didn't have a big bride, even Boers was down

999
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: for quite for like half a year. Just so yeah,

1000
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: hopefully you have been streaming and it's worked out. But yeah,

1001
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,400
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