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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, March twenty fifth, and

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Speaker 1: the domestic violence incidents are starting to add up for

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Speaker 1: Taylor Frankie Paul, the would be Bachelorette, with word now

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Speaker 1: that there is a third domestic violence investigation going on,

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Speaker 1: and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see this coming. We knew about one, and

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden went up to two, and now

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to say this was very shocking to

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Speaker 2: hear and read about. And this is all confirmed by

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Speaker 2: police that they are yes investigating a third allegation, all

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Speaker 2: from Dakota. At this point, Dakota Mortensen has said, I

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Speaker 2: guess he reportedly filed this complaint a month ago.

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Speaker 3: And so now you've got two separate police.

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Speaker 2: Urisdictions investigating two separate domestic violence allegations, and a district

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Speaker 2: attorney looking at all of it to determine what, if any,

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Speaker 2: charges should be filed.

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Speaker 1: She's been found not been found guilty of anything. Actually

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Speaker 1: by a jury, she pleaded guilty to one back in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. But Robes, these two incidents, we do

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Speaker 1: want to keep them in context. These are accusations. She

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Speaker 1: has not been charged with anything in these latest two However,

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Speaker 1: Robes this stuff is starting to add up to a

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Speaker 1: point that yes, it might look bad for her, but

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Speaker 1: folks are going to continue to look at the producers

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Speaker 1: and the company who moved forward. I know they were

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Speaker 1: rolling the dice, but damn they didn't know about any

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 2: And I would think that Disney executives might even be

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Speaker 2: breathing a sigh of relief. I know that sounds strange,

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Speaker 2: but if they were in the middle of the Bachelorette

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Speaker 2: hearing and all of this started coming out while the

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Speaker 2: season was going on, that would have been even more disruptive.

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Speaker 2: I know it's hard to it could be worse, but

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Speaker 2: it feels like it could be given what we're hearing now.

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Speaker 2: And do you remember when this first came out, we

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Speaker 2: started hearing or seeing and reading about rumblings.

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Speaker 1: That there were all these videos.

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Speaker 2: Well, now that appears to be true, and that appears

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Speaker 2: to be why there was this murmur of videos plural

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Speaker 2: because police are confirming that, yes, they are reviewing multiple

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Speaker 2: videos of this particular incident in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: So let's get you caught up here. Folks. It's a

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Speaker 1: little confusing, but you are talking now three possible domestic

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Speaker 1: violence incidents that are I guess at this point Robes

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Speaker 1: publicly known about that police have or are in the

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Speaker 1: middle of investigating. So as we know, Bachelorette season got cancered.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Frankie Paul her season was canceled after the video

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Speaker 1: came out of her twenty twenty three incident. Now let's

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Speaker 1: start there. The twenty twenty three incident is one that

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Speaker 1: we knew about. It was documented, if you will, in

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Speaker 1: the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. This was one people

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Speaker 1: knew about. She pled guilty to one charge, and she's

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Speaker 1: been on probation, knew about that, and she still got

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Speaker 1: picked to be the bachelorette. Fine, And that is the

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Speaker 1: incident that the video came out about that ended up

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Speaker 1: getting her scratched and bachelorette. That's incident number one. Now,

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Speaker 1: in the midst of that, Robes we heard about incident

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Speaker 1: number two that was being investigated. And this one is

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Speaker 1: one that we're told happened after the Bachelorette was done shooting.

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Speaker 2: Correct, So this one, the second one we're talking about,

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Speaker 2: was reportedly it reportedly happened over two separate nights, on

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Speaker 2: February twenty fourth and February twenty fifth, And yes, she

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Speaker 2: We don't know if she was engaged at that point

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Speaker 2: to another man. We don't know what the fight was about.

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Speaker 2: But there were two separate incidents that Dakota has gone

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Speaker 2: into great detail explaining in the police report.

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Speaker 1: So that's being investigated.

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Speaker 2: And now this third allegation, again from Dakota, reportedly happened

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, So now you've got basically allegations

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Speaker 2: Then twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five, and here's

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Speaker 2: the deal. She's been on probation, as you mentioned this

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Speaker 2: entire time. It doesn't end until August, so that is

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Speaker 2: going to be a huge issue for her if any

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Speaker 2: of these videos show her doing anything criminal. Now police

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Speaker 2: say they have not spoken to Taylor Frankie Paul yet,

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Speaker 2: but they have spoken with her attorney about this new investigation,

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Speaker 1: This is serious. It's serious roles because, as we know,

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Speaker 1: when you have probation, if you don't end up in jail,

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Speaker 1: you do have to follow very strict rules, and some

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Speaker 1: of those rules include no like something as simple as

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Speaker 1: no alcohol, no drugs. Now, having a beer might not

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Speaker 1: seem like the biggest deal in the world, but roads

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Speaker 1: we have seen time and time again, those are considered

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Speaker 1: violations of your probation and some pretty significant penalties can come.

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Speaker 1: We are now talking about a situation Rose where she

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Speaker 1: and now we have two two incidents that absolutely, on

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Speaker 1: the face of them, would absolutely be violations of that probation.

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Speaker 1: So you could be looking at possible punishment from that

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Speaker 1: probation violation as well as new punishment from the current Well,

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Speaker 1: this is now a big This is not just a

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Speaker 1: career thing. This has now become a very big legal

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Speaker 3: Her and could be a yes, and I was going

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Speaker 3: to say it could be. It wasn't just a career.

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Speaker 2: Thing, it could be now a freedom thing. I mean

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Speaker 2: this you're talking about potential going to jail for these

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Speaker 3: These are not minor issues.

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Speaker 2: These are major violent offenses if she were charged and convicted.

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Speaker 3: Of any of them.

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Speaker 2: Now, the Salt Lake County District attorney because it is

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Speaker 2: confusing with the different police jurisdictions, but yes, they did

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Speaker 2: confirm their looking into both the February twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: some statements saying that they've requested videos and quote all

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Speaker 2: And here was their exact statement. We made the request

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Speaker 2: because of the potential that if charges are filed, they

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Speaker 2: could be enhanced due to a prior plea in abance

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Speaker 2: to a domestic violence offense.

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Speaker 1: For a point of clarity, the latest incident was this year, yes,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, February.

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Speaker 3: Of twenty twenty five. I made twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it was confusing myself. So this is where I

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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out rope. So if this incident happened,

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Speaker 1: we're talking a month ago, correct, the latest and the

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Speaker 1: accusation that they were investigating, also saying that Dakota only

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Speaker 1: reached out recently about the twenty twenty four incident. Now,

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Speaker 1: why is that.

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Speaker 2: I think he's pissed. I think he had these videos.

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Speaker 2: I think he kept these videos. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: enough has escalated, and she is attacking him publicly through

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Speaker 2: her spokespeople, insinuating that he is the violent offender, that

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Speaker 2: I got the proof.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about. From that initial statement, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: that's the one we're talking about, right, Yeah, the first

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Speaker 1: one she put out saying her called him an abuser

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Speaker 1: kind of went didn't say his name, but it was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't insinuation. She clearly called him a physical abuser.

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Speaker 2: They didn't name him, but clearly we all knew what

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Speaker 2: I look, I'm just thinking to me, if the Dakota

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Speaker 3: Was released yesterday, seemed to still be very much.

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Speaker 2: In love with Taylor, wanting to protect her, not wanting

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Speaker 1: But look, I have also possibly you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, I don't know what acting you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I didn't want to say that, but Rose,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what happened behind the scenes. She is

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Speaker 1: he is an abuser of some kind. We have to

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Speaker 1: leave room for that. But at the same time, Ropes,

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Speaker 1: we he doesn't have to make the accusation against her.

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Speaker 3: We see it, see, and that's that's the point.

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Speaker 2: She says all of this, and we don't know whether

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Speaker 2: the hands of DMZ. But the point being is he

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Speaker 2: and look, they might be taken out of context.

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Speaker 3: They might only show her ugliness and not his.

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Speaker 2: We you know, obviously videos can be edited a certain

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Speaker 2: not I'm absolutely leaving room for that absolute possibility. But

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Speaker 2: right now this doesn't look good for Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Kind of off track a little bit, but it popped

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Speaker 1: in my mind. Would would this if the child was

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: This was vicious and those were heavy, heavy metal chairs.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like she threw a vase at him and

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Then, can you really tell me you think

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Speaker 3: That rose to a whole other level. And you combine

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Speaker 2: Choking him, scratching him like and you could hear him,

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Speaker 2: had marks and bruises that were documented. So yeah, it

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Speaker 2: it's beyond just flipping a table like Teresa judah I

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Speaker 2: I think you can.

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Speaker 3: Throw something against a wall or flip the table.

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Speaker 2: Not saying that's behavior to be proud of, but it

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Speaker 2: with the intent to do harm, and that's what that video.

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Speaker 3: Looked like, oh, it was directly and wanted to her.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, physically wanted him to feel pain.

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Speaker 1: That's not a whole lot of ways to interpret what

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Speaker 1: Ropes this now ropes. I don't know how this changes

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Speaker 1: They're probably going to be some lawsuits. She's going to

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Speaker 1: face whatever, criminalize. But does this change anything now that

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Speaker 1: we know this? The question for me rope because we

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Speaker 1: were kind of complimentary, not taking sides people want to,

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Speaker 1: but reading him from the videos, yeah, he didn't look

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Speaker 1: the moment with the police video right, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Did not appear that way at all. Quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: So we say that, But now robes this suggestion that

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Speaker 1: a twenty twenty four incident just here in recent days.

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Speaker 1: Why would he do that? That now lends itself to

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Speaker 1: a guy who is pissed and who is trying to

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Speaker 1: feels like he has videos like a lot. He didn't

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Speaker 2: He obviously knows what's at stake, He knows the world

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Speaker 3: Well we see how both of those ended up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I think domestic violence would other than murder

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Speaker 1: It was a risk, right, it was a It was

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But it was just too hot. Taylor franky ball what

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Speaker 1: This isn't fun, This isn't a I'm not saying he look,

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Speaker 1: decently right now that I don't think we're having we're

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Speaker 1: almost dismissive of what is at the center of this story,

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Speaker 1: and right now we're putting at the center reality shows,

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Speaker 1: reality stars, a big company, and millions lost. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: get it.

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Speaker 2: No, but you make such good points about all the

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Speaker 2: other people affected and impacted that people aren't thinking about,

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Speaker 2: are talking about.

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Speaker 1: This is their livelihoods.

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Speaker 2: That show Mormon Wives was everything to so many women

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Speaker 2: and their families. This was their source of income, and

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Speaker 2: now it's all up in the it's all unclear what's

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Speaker 2: going to happen.

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Speaker 3: By the way, what was Malania's jacket?

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Speaker 1: I would say, I don't I really don't care, do you.

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Speaker 3: I remember that?

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Speaker 1: Wait?

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Speaker 3: When was she wearing that? There was a specific She

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Speaker 3: obviously was saying something to.

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Speaker 1: The work immigration story that was a big heat, like

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Speaker 1: a hot story at the time, and she wore that one. So, yes, clothes,

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Speaker 1: we should pick something. I don't know what. Mine would say,

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Speaker 1: you have.

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Speaker 2: A funny one, you have no pictures, you have a

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Speaker 2: that one to the game. That one is very funny,

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Speaker 2: no pictures. And then I also like your trophy husband,

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Speaker 2: that's a good one. That's a good one too. It's

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Speaker 2: fun to send messages and clearly that is what is

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Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes. I mean this is these

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Speaker 2: are all choices that folks are making when they know

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Speaker 2: they're being taken well pictures are being taken of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, folks, we didn't expect this update to this story.

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Speaker 1: We expect plenty of updates to keep coming, but we

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Speaker 1: didn't expect this one. But we will keep a close

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Speaker 1: eye on all things happening with the Bachelorette fall out.

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Speaker 1: As always, top right corner of your Apple podcast stap

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Speaker 1: and there have been a plenty here lately. But as always,

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