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Speaker 4: I mean I was here the first day it started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first day it was conceived. Man. And we

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Speaker 3: We got actually a narco rapper on the show. Hey,

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Speaker 2: To get it right first, So it's the difference between

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Speaker 2: a gangster rapper and a narco rapper.

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Speaker 3: What is a narco rapper?

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Speaker 1: A narco rapper is a rapper that raps about a

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Speaker 1: criminal organizations, especially well only cartels and narco narcle identities.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that voice that you're hearing explain to me

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Speaker 2: with narco wrappers, Miss Blue Frontira's thanks.

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Speaker 3: To chronic goals.

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Speaker 4: This is not your average show.

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Speaker 1: You're now tuned into the rail at.

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Speaker 3: The Streets.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production of

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Speaker 2: and comment.

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Speaker 3: So, so are you from a Are you from an organization?

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Speaker 1: Am I from an organist? I am not from an organization, No,

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Speaker 1: but I do wrap uh for the golf cartel man.

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Speaker 3: That was a very square question. Are you from?

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Speaker 2: That's like asked somebody from the game. They're not supposed

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Speaker 2: to do. They're not supposed to question.

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Speaker 4: Very square.

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Speaker 3: That was a very square question. But you had a

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Speaker 1: I wanted the whole drive here. I wanted to start

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Speaker 1: off with the studio right here where I'm recording. That

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Speaker 1: is actually on the same block of not two streets

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Speaker 1: away from the house where his murderers live. They still

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Speaker 1: live there, No, they fled to the United States. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's their house. Yeah, that's one of their houses.

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Speaker 3: That's something else. Somebody fled.

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Speaker 1: I'm right here still like two streets away.

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Speaker 3: That's real crazy tailor of world to your husband's name.

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Speaker 1: Blunt Blunt was his rap name. Initially when he started,

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Speaker 1: he was Blunt the Galli and the duo where that

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's dope, and so is that how you got well,

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Speaker 2: you got introduced him as a rapper.

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Speaker 1: Right, yes, he was already a rapper when I met.

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Speaker 3: Also, he was a grouping then.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a fan and I wasn't his fan either,

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Speaker 3: See Blue said you got a break prayer to play?

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Speaker 3: I need some bread.

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Speaker 2: You never hear about them getting bussed either. I ain't

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's there's videos, there's documentaries about them, and

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Speaker 1: This is so and so, you know from the last

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean there's there's quite a few female bosses.

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Speaker 1: Hispanis Rene. That's that's very Yeah, there's there's a few.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I did not know that because you were

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I dodn't know that. Oh you know what, Blue,

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Speaker 2: but you heard me say his name. He's a gangster

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Speaker 1: I've heard of the Cribs. Yes, they're very well known.

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Speaker 3: I wanted, so do they ever? Do they got Crypts

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Speaker 1: No? They have.

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Speaker 2: Songs Norteno, same things out here. So that so that

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Speaker 4: I got homies deads down there from one seven.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well so my game wasn't from exactly one hundred

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Speaker 4: Now, like they went down there and moved down there.

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Speaker 5: No one looney in them. I don't know if they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, I don't even know if people

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Doing a bigger organization?

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Speaker 1: He might not tell you technology, I can't tell you.

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Speaker 5: One of the first times I ever got shot at

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Speaker 1: I shot at too. Where'd you get shot at?

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Speaker 4: We was in front of Carver Park Elementary School at Watts.

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Speaker 5: So that's one hundred and twentieth and that would be

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Speaker 4: I didn't get shot. No, I the car got shot

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, yeah, yeah, that's something I got shot

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Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like fifty cent and I

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Speaker 4: He there you go.

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Speaker 5: So I guess I have to ask this because obviously

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Speaker 4: I mean, you hear about certain things.

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Speaker 5: So even on the narco front, like like a rival

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Speaker 1: No, back in the days, like I've been a pioneer

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Speaker 1: they would just threaten him like, oh, you're making songs

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Speaker 1: where if you're playing a narco corrido concert, they will

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Speaker 1: they're trying to censor it because they say it's glorifying

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, there's also narcle series. They

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Speaker 1: And you don't see people being like waking up one

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Speaker 5: And not to cut you off blue, Like, man, you're

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Speaker 5: going through the same thing in Wa went through, Yes,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So it's so amazing because

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Speaker 4: And I always argue with Still.

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Speaker 5: And everybody that there's like we all have problems and

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Speaker 4: Part two, This is a question.

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Speaker 5: So now that I obviously writing in different organizations, there's

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Speaker 5: younger people coming up who might be.

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Speaker 4: Into rap music, Where does where does that leave? Is there?

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Speaker 4: Are there still the singers?

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Speaker 5: Are there still the same singer versions of Credo or

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Speaker 5: is it just are people just going straight to narco rap?

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Speaker 4: At this point as far as representing the organization, I.

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Speaker 1: Feel like they're both blooming. There's because you got you know,

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Speaker 1: got the Narkyl series, you know, and you know, just

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Speaker 2: Funny about you know, what's funny about the powers that

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Speaker 2: to the people that you know, and you know, just

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Speaker 3: All that stuff. Crime is a product of property.

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Speaker 2: It's a product of people not having shit, that want

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Speaker 2: At some point they give up, they can't go to

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Speaker 2: the government for assistance. Their parents ain't got us. They like,

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Speaker 2: in their mind, they pretty much made up in their mind,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get this right now by any means.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's dope.

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Speaker 3: Man. You are going exactly the same thing that that

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Speaker 2: Now. I see you got your security over the way.

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Speaker 2: You wrote a security everywhere, don't I do.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a very dangerous. Actually they've tried to take

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Speaker 1: I can, like you would be surprised. It's like the

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Speaker 2: You know, what's funny everybody knows about you know, the

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Speaker 2: would you say that everything?

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Speaker 3: Because from what I understand they tell me.

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Speaker 2: lock at first, right, They had no smash at first,

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Speaker 2: and they were using the Mexicans kind of to get

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Speaker 3: Is that what happened?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Pretty much. I mean, uh, they were already you know, working,

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Speaker 1: It just took like a guy to blow up, like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, America's fascinated Americas as a whole is fascinated by

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Speaker 1: I think all we're fascinated by a whole organized crime

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Speaker 1: because I mean, I remember they had an infatuation with

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Speaker 1: the Mexican cultures popping now, like we're cool. Now El

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Speaker 1: Chapamato is cool, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the music is blowing up now.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's one thing I've noticed too out in La everything

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Speaker 1: Yes? Like, well, first of all, these cartels have very

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Speaker 2: You know, so pretty much you read for one cartel

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Speaker 1: I am not allowed to rap for another cartel because

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Speaker 1: The guys from here canna be like come here. You

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Speaker 1: know you you you you're rapping for the ops, you know,

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Speaker 1: Why because that's what they do to the opposing cartel

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Speaker 1: they want Renossan, I live in a city that all

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Speaker 1: they're they're fighting to not let it go, like we're

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00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 1: not gonna let you have it. They're not gonna let

435
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: like HOLLI school come in. So they're fighting. When they

436
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: capture them, they torture them like this is what's gonna

437
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: happen if you guys try to come into our territory.

438
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: You want to step in here, this's gonna happen to you.

439
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 1: And they record them like I've seen some things like

440
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: I like people they on fire.

441
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 4: Alive, put in barrels. Yeah.

442
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot of it's a lot of money though.

443
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 5: You know, what's what's not talked about is that. And

444
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 5: I think when people hear opposition, they don't realize these

445
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 5: are people competing for billions of dollars.

446
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

447
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, our countries act the same way, you know, the

448
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 5: United States of America, the country, we all act the

449
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 5: same way at the highest level. So I think it's

450
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 5: disingenuous when people don't, you know, act like they get

451
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 5: why somebody is competing for billions of dollars, Like they're

452
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 5: competing for the opportunity to support their family and thousands

453
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: of people's family.

454
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 4: So it's going to get crazy, you know, over that

455
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: type of money. It's supposed to.

456
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: It sounds like not only trying to support their families,

457
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: but really it's the same stuffs over here just getting

458
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: down for their neighborhood, Like you can't just come in

459
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: my hood trying to do what you want to.

460
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 5: But again, it's it's that's the United States of America,

461
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 5: that's Ukraine right now, in Russia, that's that's Hamas and Israel.

462
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 5: These are everybody's competing for an opportunity to thrive, and

463
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 5: at the lowest levels like where we're from, like yeah,

464
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 5: from my crip neighborhood, or let's say over in the

465
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 5: cartels in Mexico. They try to denounce it like it's

466
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: not the same thing. It's the same thing everybody's competing for.

467
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: And to say that, I have always compared it to well,

468
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: I came to school here in the United States, so

469
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: I've always compared it to civil wars. I'm like, this

470
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: is a civil war. It's what it is. It's different,

471
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: or you know, they want to call them criminal organizations,

472
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: it's different. It's a civil war within the country against

473
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: each other, that's what it is.

474
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 5: And ironically, and ironically, the Civil War was a fight

475
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: over the South trying to keep their greatest industry going

476
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 5: and the North saying no, we're not doing this anymore.

477
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 5: You have to do something else and you can't separate

478
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: as a union. So it's really exactly the same. But

479
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: of course they're gonna look down on black and brown

480
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 5: people and call it criminals. It's horrible, like they don't understand.

481
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: M h. They've actually put me on a terrorist watch list,

482
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: which is ridiculous.

483
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 4: You really you really? Yeah, you're really.

484
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm not like bragging about it. I don't want people no.

485
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 5: No, yeah, but that's something to be proud of for

486
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 5: establishing this level of no for real. Like it's dope

487
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 5: when I talk to Yellow or when I talk to Dre,

488
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: or when I talk to these guys and really watched

489
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: them where they're at now to see what they went through.

490
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 5: So it's dope to watch it happen for somebody else

491
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: in another country, like going through those steps. And you

492
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 5: gotta look at the straight out of content movie and

493
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: really believe this is where it could end up at

494
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: it it most likely will. So I'm I'm I'm definitely

495
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 5: gonna get up on some of your stuff.

496
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: Man.

497
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 5: I'm happy and I'm proud that you you know, taking

498
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 5: the gambles to really make sure people know your community stories.

499
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: That's everything, thank you.

500
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: Yes, but they allow you to do a song with glasses.

501
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they would, as long as he's not not Yeah.

502
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first man equipping a narcle combined

503
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: forces man on a rep song.

504
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: That for sure. For sure.

505
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: I love somebody fighting a good fight, man. I love

506
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: somebody putting on for their community. So it works for me.

507
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 2: And so Blue, you never got because you don't mean,

508
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: you don't talk off you know, off air.

509
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: You're not scared sometimes because you don't have been through

510
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: some shit along.

511
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: Girl, I have been through shit. But you know, sorry,

512
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: I personally I liked you adrenaline. I don't know, I've

513
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: always been like that all my life. You know, I

514
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: was a little a gang banger as a teenager. I

515
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: was already uh you know, a runner in my early twenties.

516
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of time for that, you know.

517
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: And but you know, yeah, I've already I look when

518
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: I saw that. First of all, Tupac got me into

519
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: the whole gangster bit, okay, and then it was Scarface

520
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: that did it for me. I saw the movie Scarface.

521
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: I was young and I wanted to marry Scarface. I

522
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: wanted to be Scarface. I want to like so I

523
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: just weren't after that life of crime.

524
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: You know, you want the boy husband, you want the

525
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: DP boy husband with the big truck and the Ostrich building,

526
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: the Ostrich boots and all that stuff.

527
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: Yes, I've had a few.

528
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Yet that's crazy.

529
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: So so if you're dating the normal civilian man, he's

530
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: just too boring for you want.

531
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: He's boring, Yes, he is boring. Sorry, I feel like

532
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you know, and I've met people

533
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: that I could have possibly married and lived a nice,

534
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: comfy life, but like I'm like, I don't like, you know,

535
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: they asked me to move. I'm like, I don't want

536
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: to move out here. I don't want to I wouldn't

537
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: want to leave, Like this is this is what people

538
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: portraying movies like, you know, I'm living what people pretend

539
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: to be in songs and movies like, I'm living it,

540
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, And we have a model here. They say

541
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: los loosas, which means either you you live it like

542
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: you uh you suffer it, or you you live it

543
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: like you you know, you like you love it? You

544
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying mm hmmm. So that's a model

545
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: out here. Either you suffer it or you love it.

546
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 5: I can't get still to understand the outdoll commitment. He

547
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 5: don't understand it. I cannot get him.

548
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: Understanding.

549
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: To us, I got it's crazy.

550
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question, empathy, for give me your

551
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 5: top three favorite corrido artist all times.

552
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's my wollstar Ramona Yalaa like the move or

553
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: you can him out your ands. Ri. I gotta ask,

554
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: you know my I gotta ask, is is here? Okay?

555
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: So I like Ramonayalausta. I mean it's hard. I don't

556
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: really listens.

557
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: Can see the Spanish in her.

558
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Corrido because I like travel and me crying.

559
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: What do you always talk about? She mentioned them earlier,

560
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: not thought about.

561
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: Charlino. Is the corridos tupa that's the one.

562
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people like Charlino in our area.

563
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: It's it was vet, Veta and Valentin that got shot

564
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: down here that we're not from this area.

565
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: So they got shot too, Yes.

566
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: And for the same reason that I'm telling you for

567
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: they got friend Charlino Sanchez got shot. He got a

568
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: little note telling him to not sing a certain song

569
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: he read the little note and he sang it anyways,

570
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: and yeah, he died right after he got off the stage.

571
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Valentina decided also his uh his suburban was shot up

572
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: or tahoe, don't remember what it was, but.

573
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 5: Got one of the greatest He got one of the

574
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: greatest stories of any artists like his if you know

575
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: his story, his story is dope like.

576
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: You.

577
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like the Mexican tupak, wasn't it.

578
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: He was cold.

579
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like what narco rap is right now.

580
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: But back then Corris yep, a lot of people respect

581
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: him and love him and.

582
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: You know, no, and then in the Narco in narical music,

583
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: because I have, you know, one to listen to Narco music,

584
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: I noticed y'all got a certain vibe.

585
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: It's kind of like trap a little bit.

586
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Huh, yes, yes it is.

587
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: They kind of got like a trap vibe. Why do

588
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: you think that it was up though, because you know

589
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: what I was one of myself. I wonder if they

590
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: got the Narco rappers that rapp was West Coast ship

591
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: that are.

592
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be hard for like I feel

593
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: like if I were, like, for example, me, if I

594
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: were to wrap some West Coast stuff. I'd be faking

595
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: the funk like it wouldn't like it wouldn't like suit me, right,

596
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, so.

597
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: You keep it out what your experience is.

598
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, that's that's the thing about me. I think

599
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people, like when they meet me,

600
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: they know me in real life. They knew my husband Blunt.

601
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, the local people, they respect me because they

602
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: know they know I'm about it right, versus a lot

603
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: of the you know, rappers in the US when they

604
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: want to rap about it or I mean, it's cool

605
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: to rap about it, but you know, you don't live

606
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: that life, you know what I'm saying. So and people know,

607
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: people know, like I'll love her, you can't be.

608
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 4: I love her.

609
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I love her. Yeah, I'll be saying that I love

610
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: me too.

611
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: Man, I'll be saying this.

612
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: Is real, real, recognize the real real, keep it real,

613
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: you know. So that's just that's what it is. You know,

614
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm authentic, and I think you know, people see that.

615
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: People like, I'm not faking the funk. You know what

616
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying out here still in this area, you cannot

617
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: be like, uh well, I mean now there's like some

618
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: rising artists I guess because narco rap became so normal.

619
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: Now there's some narco rappers that have nothing to do

620
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: with the cartel, you know, like they just have like

621
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: a friend and they started they wrapped for a certain person.

622
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: But my husband was an actual cicicatio you know leaked,

623
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: which was also part of the crew with somebody also

624
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: that I dated. He was also a cicatio U gena.

625
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I think he was in that life as well. Then

626
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: there was a lo out of Laredo and over there Tamen.

627
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: You know they were they were about that life from

628
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: what I hear. So you know, I'm saying like like

629
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: we don't fake the funk and me you know, I

630
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: wasn't in there. But you know, I dated a lot

631
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: of people. I did my share of missions. I did.

632
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: Mean I met several comnanthas because of b you know,

633
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: when I went with him. You know, I lived a

634
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: lot of things, a lot of experiences. You know, people

635
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: knew that he got kidnapped and I got shot and

636
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: they try to take my truck. They shot my truck up,

637
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: you know. I mean people know these stories that follow me,

638
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: so they know it's authentic. When I be rapid about it,

639
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: it's authentic.

640
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: When they came and got to house, the kidnapped men

641
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: tried to tie you up too.

642
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: No, they kind of respect women a little bit. I

643
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: want to say a little bit. They do respect women

644
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. They try to avoid the family sometimes,

645
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: but other times when they're coming against you, they'll they'll

646
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: get your whole family, you know. So no, they but

647
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: they did call me. They did call me, and they

648
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: wanted my truck. So they were hitting me up for

649
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: the money, the ransom. They wanted my Mercedes, and they

650
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: wanted money. They wanted like fifty grand.

651
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to break a bread.

652
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I called. So I grabbed his phone and I just

653
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: started dialing numbers because it was like a peanut phone.

654
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: There was like, you know, no names. You know those

655
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Pano phones from back look like little bars. Yeah, So

656
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: I just started dialing random numbers and I finally I

657
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: spoke to a kumkante Viki and I told him what happened,

658
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: and he told me he's like, just hold on, don't

659
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: give him anything. He's like, I'm going to make some calls.

660
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: So five hours went by and I was still just

661
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: waiting and I was calling him. I'm like, they're calling

662
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: me their ecullomy. He's like, just wait, just wait, and

663
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: I started, I'm Catholic. I started praying. I prayed a rosary.

664
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: And before I moved in with I was doing rosaries

665
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: with all the old ladies, you know. I was hanging

666
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: out with the old ladies of the church and we

667
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: would do rosaries at you know, different places. So at

668
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: that moment, I'll never forget. I told God, like, you know, Lord,

669
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I used this truck to serve you the mercy. I

670
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: used this truck to serve you. I carried, you know,

671
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: the statues. We have statues as Catholics. I carried the

672
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: statues from place to place. And the old church ladies,

673
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: I served you with this truck. And they said, the

674
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Bible says what you give, no one can take away.

675
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: So you gave me this truck. I served you with

676
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: this truck. But I'm not going to, you know, put

677
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: prioritize a material object over someone's life. So I'm going

678
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: to give this up for him. And I remember I

679
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: called my parents because my dad had co signed, and

680
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'm gonna have to give this truck up.

681
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: This is going on. So when I got after I

682
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: did the rosary, I got to the point that they

683
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: told me to get to. There was nobody there. They

684
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: were gone, and I literally I went around like I

685
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: still went around, drove around to see if I saw anybody,

686
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: and then I went back on the highway, went back

687
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: to the spot alone. I didn't see anybody, and then

688
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: I just got a phone call and they told me

689
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: they dropped They dropped him off at the hospital. So

690
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I just believed that was the hand of God, you

691
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: know right.

692
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, the guy decided to move. It was something powerful.

693
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: You know, you got a powerful story. Have you ever

694
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: thought about because I don't know what you allowed to

695
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: do and what you're not allowed to do.

696
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: But I told you the reason I wanted to talk

697
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 3: to you was because I thought you.

698
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: Should be out there more I should be out there

699
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 1: because I thought her.

700
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: Story was like I said, you know what, I'm gonna

701
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: use my platform. Man, really, girl, you know it's dumb

702
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: shouting my boy k D show. Yeah, because he called

703
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: me and told me about her first right now, I

704
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: was like, really, you don't know nobody, man, it's a

705
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: real narco or raper man, knock it off.

706
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: And he really did. He came through with it.

707
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: So with all this going. What you got going on now?

708
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: Music wise? Like what's cracking next?

709
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: Well, what's cracking is I want to just work on

710
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: my catalog, you know I want to do I want

711
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: to do it alone, you know, because I worked with

712
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Dope House and I did songs with Wanngatti, SPM, you know, Rashi,

713
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: and you know when I came out here, it's like

714
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I can't perform these songs, you know what I mean,

715
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: Like because I have, then these guys won't come to Mexico.

716
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: They're scared to come to Mexico. So I started doing

717
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: these songs by myself, and I want to perform by myself.

718
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: And I want to do you know what what s

719
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: PM did, what Mexican ot is doing. Just kind of

720
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: make a name for myself by myself, even even if

721
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: I struggle or I don't know how long it's going

722
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: to take, but just work really hard, you know, and

723
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: expand my catalog. That's what I want to do.

724
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 3: That's Dope.

725
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: You know, you sound like you've got the main premise

726
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: of the game down. It's really just about getting on

727
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: your ship and putting music out. Yeah, because I noticed

728
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: everything you do you do correct. You got to get

729
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: attention to detail. Even when we were doing this interview now,

730
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: he was like, Hey, do you like this? And I said, man,

731
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: homegirl really went all the way out. I mean she

732
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: she did her ship.

733
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: I had good teachers. I feel like Sylvia Corey, you

734
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: know Spm's brother. She was really she was a good teacher,

735
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: you know.

736
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: I I've spoke to Selvie before. Were supposed to have

737
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: South Park Mexkan on the show, but the time he

738
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: was supposed to come on, I guess he was a

739
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: lockdown or something like that, so we couldn't happen. But

740
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: I've talked to her before. I've talked to her before

741
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: South Park Mexican. You know what, I want to go

742
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: on that a little bit. I ain't gonna talk about

743
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: what he allegedly did.

744
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: What.

745
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: You know, that's a touchy subject.

746
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: But he he's a big boy. I always tell people

747
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: he's a big boy. He can defend himself. You know.

748
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: He said touchy subject, that's just hilarious.

749
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: No, you know nothing, But he was like Michael Jackson

750
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: down there.

751
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, he he still is pretty huge in the

752
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Latin market. He's still pretty huge. Yeah.

753
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, south Park Mission. I think he was selling more

754
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: records than third and all of them.

755
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: Gee, BM is a big deal. Dog he is not

756
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: he is? He was a huge deal. He's a huge

757
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: deal still.

758
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: Is I mean? Because he just posted his numbers on

759
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Spotify and and wow, like he's in the top Yep.

760
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: People love Espena, they always have.

761
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: No, was you surprised when you heard about the accusations

762
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: brought forth to him?

763
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Me or asking him?

764
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm asking you. Were you surprised for you?

765
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: Was I surprised? I really felt like neutral about it.

766
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: If I remember back then, it was like two thousand

767
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: and one, I remember feeling neutral. I kept asking him

768
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: about it, like is it true? Is it not true?

769
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: He never told me. He never spoke about that with me.

770
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: He never answered the question. Every time that I got

771
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: a letter back from him, he omitted that part and

772
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: would she would just talk about other stuff, you know,

773
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: so that question was just left up in the air.

774
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: You know. I would be like, hey, you know, if

775
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: you did it's kind of fucked. Uh. But if you

776
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: didn't do it, because you know, there's a story is

777
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: also circulating that he was framed. I was framed. I

778
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: was actually framed and I was found guilty. So when

779
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: he said that he was framed. I believed it, like

780
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: I believe you, you know, because I've been framed, So

781
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: it can happen, you know. And the lady showed up

782
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: to court too, to you know, give false testament against me,

783
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: and I told the judge, I'm like, sir, she is

784
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: lying on her oath. She needs to be arrested. And

785
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: she got really nervous. So the judge just gave me

786
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: time served because I feel like he didn't know who

787
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: to believe, so he found me guilty, but he gave

788
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: me time served. So I was there three days. But

789
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: it can happen, you know, if somebody man haities a

790
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: worldwide yeah, yep, yep.

791
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: If somebody buy some cold shit to go frame somebody

792
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: man just ruined somebody's life. Yes, because I heard a

793
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. I heard this South Park, Mexican was

794
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: so big, he had a lot of people in high

795
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: places that was really just on his head.

796
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it.

797
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: And when you got that, so when you say you

798
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: want to do this all on your own, so you're

799
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: saying you just start your own label, well I have.

800
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: My own label. I kept. I kept blunts label because

801
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: he separated from his duo uh Gano. It was gan

802
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: The reg label was called Flo Galli that they made

803
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: and they did a whole album with that Big Lows

804
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: guy that you were watching. Yeah, So then they separated

805
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: over royalties and other personal issues, and he separated for

806
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: flowda Gully and he created ro Rec, which after he passed,

807
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I kept it because he told me we I mean,

808
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: when we went through a lot of stuff together and

809
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: he told me, you don't need nobody, you are gonna

810
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: be ro Rec. Don't worry about dope pals, don't worry

811
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: about Big Lows. And but he goes, you're gonna be

812
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: with me now, and I felt like wanted, Like when

813
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: somebody actually wants you to be part of their team

814
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: versus at you know, the dope House, you got to

815
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: like almost till this day, it seems like you almost

816
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: got to fight for a spot there, you know. And

817
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 1: that's not the environment that I'm trying to around myself,

818
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: because I mean, like in case you haven't noticed, like

819
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: I keep it real, you know what I'm saying. So

820
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm not about to go fight over no spot. Either

821
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm wanted here or I'm not wanted, you know. So

822
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: that's why I kept Rochorek because that was a place

823
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: where I was wanted and that was my home.

824
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: So that's dope and believe it or not, it's the

825
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: same thing as record lab But I think people under

826
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: this impression once you signed a record deal that you

827
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: just own' like that. No, it's probably fifty artists in

828
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: that building and everybody bucking for positions.

829
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for the position, for the attention, for the favoritism,

830
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm man like, I'm not gonna fight.

831
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know. It's people on record labels. They

832
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: can't even get their label they A and R to

833
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 2: call them back, you know, they can't get their phone

834
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: calls return, and they just kind of limble, you know.

835
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: And most of the dudes that flourish and the dudes

836
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: that go out and make something happen for they on

837
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: their own, you know, go make something correct.

838
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Yep, I believe that. And you know, ever since I

839
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: broke off from the Dope House, I feel like it

840
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: was a sad moment for me because I mean, it

841
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: is a big a record label, so it was a

842
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: sad moment for me. But now that I see my growth,

843
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: I feel like I would have done everything the same

844
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: that I went through, you know, be ending up with blunt,

845
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: ending up in tama Lipas in Mexico. I mean, it

846
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: made me who I am today. I feel like my

847
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: numbers are you know, at least they're they're growing. They're slow,

848
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: but they're growing like it's authentic, it's organic. And I

849
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that if I stayed at the dope house,

850
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, or a medical or negro. I wouldn't have

851
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: done that for sure.

852
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: Now do you see some people in America trying to

853
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: imitate the narco rep I.

854
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: See a lot of people trying to imitate the narco rap,

855
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: and especially the females and the Spanish, like everybody's trying

856
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: to hop on the Spanish train. There's female rappers that

857
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: I've seen that they wrapped like the you know American

858
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: gangster way in English all their life. That's how they wrapped,

859
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, like powwall, you know, like with that accent.

860
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I've seen females rap like that,

861
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden I came out, you know,

862
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, these same females are starting

863
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: to throw songs in their Spanish and they're all in

864
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: black now, and I'm like, listen, there's a reason why

865
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm wearing black because we're all tactical out here. There's

866
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: a reason why they're tactical out the cartel. The cartel

867
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: is wearing tactical clothes all the time, like there's a

868
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: reason for it, versus you know, you just want to

869
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: wear black for I don't know, because it's trending. You

870
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: want to throw Spanish out there, like it's hurtful to

871
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: me still like air, it's by pride because I'm like, bro,

872
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: I've been fighting for this genre since two thousand and one.

873
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: People would make fun of me. A guy one time

874
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: called me a gimmick. He's like, you're just a gimmick.

875
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh look at the gimmick now. Narco rep is a

876
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: full blown thing right now, and they call me a

877
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: gimmick back then, you know, and and you know, people

878
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: weren't they were writing with me. They didn't suffer what

879
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: I suffered, sweat, blood and tears, and all of a

880
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: sudden they want to ride the train. I'm just like,

881
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I should be more accepting, but

882
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not with it. You know, you didn't, man, I.

883
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: Was like, you ain't supposed to just accept be accepting

884
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: just anything.

885
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't want to be. I

886
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: don't want to be a hater because I'm not. But

887
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: it's I feel like it's not fair, Like I fought

888
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: the fight and you just want to come and you

889
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: know you want to eat the cake. That's not the

890
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: way it works. She told you, yes, Steve, he told

891
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: you you like.

892
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: That stuff, don't you like?

893
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 5: It's warm in my heart because I know where she

894
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: coming from. When you you culturally experience something, you try

895
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 5: and express it and people just see it as an

896
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 5: opportunity to take it.

897
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 4: I know the feeling.

898
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I know that feeling real, recognize the real I think

899
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: we'd be good friends.

900
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: When did you leave Blue? What do you think you

901
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: missing in order to like just go to that next level?

902
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: Are you missing beats or what do you think it is?

903
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: No? I feel like right now that I've grown, people

904
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: are trying to give me beats now and I don't

905
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: want them because I have like a certain style that

906
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: I want. Don't go to sleep? Am I boring you?

907
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: No?

908
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: No?

909
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: No, no, no no no.

910
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 5: I've been up since five in the morning, all compelling stuff no, no,

911
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 5: this is all compelling stuff.

912
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. So you know, I have a certain sound

913
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for, and now I have people that

914
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: actually like what they're doing versus they're just trying to

915
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: sell you a beat, you know, or they're just trying

916
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: to record you get that money. Now I got people

917
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: that I like how they work with me. They put

918
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: their heart into my work. So you know, yeah, you're

919
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: being produced.

920
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 3: Oh no, but it's cool.

921
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out because I don't heard

922
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: ricords from you have some music. I like your music?

923
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, now I do. I think it's grown

924
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: a lot.

925
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: It's called being produced. It's no more beats. Now, people

926
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 5: are finishing your songs from top to bottom. That's that

927
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 5: I up in the media over the last three or

928
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 5: four or five years, like where to stop. Somebody stopped

929
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: sending me beats and we started making songs together and

930
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 5: we started making records.

931
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: And that's a good place to be.

932
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: Yep. I agree, yes, deserve.

933
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: And you being like because see you down there in

934
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: Texas too, So it's a lot of man, you know what,

935
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: you got a chance to make a lot of bread

936
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 2: down there because you're in a region. It's just kind

937
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: of like flourishing.

938
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah m hm, just that.

939
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: Area and you like to see and I try to

940
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: tell somebody like what ot Mexican is doing is not

941
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: surprised me. I told somebody, I said, Man, the next

942
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: big thing, Man, it's gonna be somebody from Mexico.

943
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: Go figure it out. And they go to sell the

944
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 3: gazillion units.

945
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm telling you, it's out there, and it's

946
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: like the thing that slows it down out here in

947
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: California's the politics. People can't get past the politics, you know,

948
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: to just blow up and just just rap. But like

949
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: you know, g had a saying, like he ays a

950
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: saying about authenticity, right, I think some people run away

951
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: from being Mexican.

952
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, run towards being Mexican. You feel what I'm saying.

953
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I feel like a lot

954
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: of artists from the United States are trying to tap

955
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: into that market, but just I feel like the authenticity

956
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: is not there. And like you guys in the United States,

957
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's people rappers making millions, but you

958
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: got you got like a rapper called Santa fe Glan.

959
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's doing really well, but he's mostly in Mexico.

960
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: You got Babo Santa, then you got this little You know,

961
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of artists that they got, you know,

962
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: millions of reproductions out here in Mexico, and but yeah,

963
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: they don't hear about them over there. But since I'm

964
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: by Linguo, and like I said, I'm trying to take

965
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: Narco Wrap to other levels. You know, I be like,

966
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: I speak English and I got dual nationality. That's why

967
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: we like going back and forth everywhere.

968
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: Because you live in Texas and in Mexico.

969
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: I live in Texas and in Mexico. I got a

970
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: home in both, so I got duel citizenship.

971
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 2: Yep.

972
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I I can go every single day, like I just

973
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: had tacos a little while ago, you know, and other

974
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: times I have salad man.

975
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: We kind of tacos. They selling your recas. That's one

976
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: thing I learned. Everybody kind of has their own style

977
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: of tacos.

978
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh, they have well the mata motives tycles you know

979
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: over there, the motives, but they have them, they sell

980
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: them here to that style. But it's usually the tacos, tacos,

981
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: the chicharon and then you got the breakfast tacos. Those

982
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: then whatever kind of tackle you got, you know you want?

983
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: They got them here.

984
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 2: Man, I'm missing some tacos. I think black people tacos

985
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: didn't supporter. Yes, African Americans are the tacos biggest supporter.

986
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 5: My favorite food from the East side of Los Angeles,

987
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 5: so they it's my favorite food.

988
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: Los Angeles got some pretty good Mexican food. There's probably

989
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: the number one food like all the other things.

990
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: We got some authentic tacos there. I messed with it before.

991
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: Have I been Yes, I've been to California before. I

992
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: have family out there.

993
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: Was that right?

994
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I forgot what I forgot where? What they role is?

995
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: They roll with something.

996
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: Shout yeah, I'm glad. Don't say it on here and

997
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: get us involved a whole bunch of stuff. I ain't

998
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: trying to trying to put nobody's beef. I'm cool with everybody.

999
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: Don't got no beef for nobody, Sir.

1000
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: You have mentioned every single or the crime uh team

1001
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: around here.

1002
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Hey, some stuff, some stuff get more touchy than others, don't.

1003
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 4: Okay, you know that is the This is easy.

1004
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I want to ask you. Have

1005
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: you ever thought about doing a movie.

1006
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: I have I want to do a movie.

1007
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you some game right now. Independent movies

1008
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: are blowing up right now, and they're becoming huge vehicles

1009
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: for artists. And in fact, what's funny to me, everybody

1010
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: I've met from like Detroit, like in Detroit, Michigan, it's

1011
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: like a flourishing independent movie scene out there, right. Everybody

1012
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: that's doing them movies used to be rappers. Gee, and

1013
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: they started off or I'm gonna get this camera and

1014
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: stuff to do my you know me own music videos.

1015
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: And they start getting good with the camera. Next thing

1016
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: you know, they making movies and they making money. They

1017
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: forget about the rep I think as long as you

1018
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: remember what the main mission neals is cool, I think,

1019
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: I think. But all the stuff you've been through, and

1020
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: with the proper permission of course, that you should make

1021
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: a movie. I think that'd be dope.

1022
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I want to make a movie, but I

1023
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: just don't know how. I don't have the connections yet.

1024
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: I've been trying to look for.

1025
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: Some Hey, well you got homies that got connections. Now

1026
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: you got to be connected. Now you're connected with the

1027
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: Big Steel cartel too.

1028
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: Just tell your people saw you in the movie. Still

1029
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: you did.

1030
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: Man, that's funny.

1031
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: Tell me I don't want no beef telling them that

1032
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: my cartel is just meaning Glasses alone, that's it and

1033
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: a few other people.

1034
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: That's it. Ain't cartel, So what is no threat?

1035
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,919
Speaker 2: And so you got to get permissions so we don't

1036
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: get beause, so we don't get rolled on.

1037
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: No, it ain't. They ain't like that. They're not that

1038
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: strict like that. That's ridiculousness.

1039
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: You know what they always showing movies like everything, like

1040
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 2: if you do one thing wrong here.

1041
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: They come, they gonna string you up.

1042
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you couldn't make them come and get you.

1043
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. If I came down

1044
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: to Mexican right and he was like, hey, this is

1045
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 2: my friend Glasses, and still would they.

1046
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 3: Trip on us?

1047
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: No, No, they would not. No, they don't really mess

1048
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: with Americans because they're there respect to you. They don't

1049
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: want the American government coming in here looking for you.

1050
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: So what they mean, but they would probably be interested

1051
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 2: in Glasses being the cripping and stuff and like asking

1052
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: them about the cripping and stuff. Huh.

1053
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 6: Unless you're like like like like you know, misbehaving, they

1054
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 6: won't do.

1055
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: Nothing to you. But I mean if you start stirring

1056
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: up the pot, then yeah.

1057
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: It's gonna be on it. That's any world.

1058
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: I think you come anywhere starting a bunch of we

1059
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: call it over here, we call it bullshit. We don't

1060
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: call it the starting some bullshit you go get, you

1061
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: go get the sharp end of the bull you'll get

1062
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: the hornes.

1063
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. We could cuss. You've been like cussing

1064
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: all kinds of words.

1065
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: Well, you know what it's it's it's no.

1066
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: I keep it to a minimum, but you can cu

1067
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: we wave past five minutes. I'm gonna give you a

1068
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: hint about YouTube and all that stuff. The first five

1069
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: and ten minutes is critical. Don't say no curse words

1070
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: toward and there's certain curse words like if you start

1071
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: get saying random stuff like I got another co host

1072
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: and I love my dude. Every other word with him

1073
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: is motherfucker ship just every other word and it's like, damn,

1074
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: you just don't say it. You don't let out the flurry.

1075
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: I love you, but ain't to let out flurry of

1076
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: curse words just in a five minute frame. Who is

1077
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: that is that your security walking around back?

1078
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Then?

1079
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: Can they come on a camera real quick, because they allowed.

1080
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: To do you want them to come?

1081
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Like they tell me, just walk behind you. I'm just

1082
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: trying to see how you roll. But that's crazy to

1083
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: me that you actually got security.

1084
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting to stay.

1085
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy. Man, she gotta ask you security. I'm

1086
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: gonna always stay cool with you. I do not want

1087
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: no beef with you. I do not want a little

1088
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:04,959
Speaker 2: beef with you. What's up man? Peace of love, Peace

1089
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: of love my brothers. Peacea love my brothers. But that

1090
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: is so cold man, Blue? You really down with the blue?

1091
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: Really what they call mafiosa?

1092
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Yes, Belka is the word, which is actually my little Nogo.

1093
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: How do you say that? How do you say it?

1094
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Belkaika, Belica, belka.

1095
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: She thinks he knows Spanish. She breaking up some of

1096
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: your Spanish because he was trying to correct me. One day,

1097
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: I was calling my wife. I called my wife. I

1098
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: called him Maria and he was just like, no, it's Maria,

1099
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: it's Maria. He's like, it's Maria. I said, man, my

1100
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: span can't be Maria. Come here, body, Yeah.

1101
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: We have more.

1102
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: I was sound, so this is genuine, we have more beneics.

1103
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Maria, are so funny.

1104
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: You know what, man, there are so many parallels, and

1105
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: people don't believe me when I tell them. I think

1106
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: people that come from poverty, y' all kind of got

1107
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: the same story. I don't care what color you are.

1108
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're black or Mexican. It's like,

1109
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: it's the same stuff.

1110
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

1111
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 3: It's the same stuff. It's the same.

1112
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: Story, is the same all over Its poverty everywhere you go.

1113
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you know what, in Mexical, y'all got

1114
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: some real serious there's some serious property over here.

1115
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 3: But I think in Mexico it's like.

1116
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: Want to compare parties, it's way worse the projects. When

1117
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: I hear people like talking about it, Oh, I grew

1118
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: up in the projects, It's like, bro Like, that's nothing

1119
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: compared to the outhouse I had to go to when

1120
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: I was little. I thought I was gonna fall in there.

1121
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: And that's why the crime, Yeah, that's why the crime is.

1122
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think people's biggest fears returned to being broke, Like,

1123
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, the biggest fear for somebody to get some

1124
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: line to come from property manage being broke.

1125
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well that's why a lot of people join

1126
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: these cartels. It's the same story because they want a job.

1127
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a job out here.

1128
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: So it's like really, and I heard a lot of

1129
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: times they taken care of like the whole community.

1130
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we talk about like the good old days

1131
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: because now we don't have any good commandantes, like the

1132
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: stories I've heard because I was not around trees and uh,

1133
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: they call them the old school commandantes. They would always

1134
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, make the festivals for the town and always

1135
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: give to the people. Like what do you kind of

1136
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: like the package that the army gives when what do

1137
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: you call them those provisions? They they'd be giving out

1138
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: provisions back in the day, you know. So, but I

1139
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: mean now it's it's not like that a lot here anymore.

1140
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you an't see ali because it seems like they're

1141
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: balling out there like that that cartels ballin'.

1142
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the thing is you can't rule with fear,

1143
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: but when you rule with a combination of both, that

1144
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: kind of make.

1145
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 3: You almost untouchable.

1146
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, because don't nobody want you know, when

1147
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: you rob the hood and when you're taking care of people,

1148
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: when you feed people and stuff, Man, you're just doing

1149
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: right by people. Ain't nobody good woman, see you fall.

1150
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: I say like this, there's there's good bad guys, and

1151
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: there's bad bad guys, just like there's good popes, and

1152
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: like there's good priests and there's bad priests. Just because

1153
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: they're priests doesn't mean they're all good. Just because they're

1154
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: cartail members doesn't mean they're all bad, you know. So

1155
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: that's the way I look at There's some good people

1156
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: in there.

1157
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: Some but let me ask you this, because they make

1158
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: a crazy amount of money. What's the most money You've

1159
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: ever been around? And just made you nervous?

1160
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: Oh? One time, I mean I did. I dated uh

1161
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: An Arco like a hefey and I was unaware, but

1162
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: apparently he had a million dollars in a suitcase or

1163
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how many million. I don't even remember,

1164
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: but there was some some millions of dollars in a suitcase.

1165
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was just laying around. You didn't get

1166
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: to see the money.

1167
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: He I didn't you knew what. And it's funny because

1168
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: when I dated him, I didn't even know who he was.

1169
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: I didn't find out who he was until he got arrested.

1170
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was dating.

1171
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: It man, So you should have you know what, let

1172
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: me ask you this. You think you think you could

1173
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: have got a couple of specs out of there. Yeah,

1174
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 2: he wouldn't even know it was listening, so you should

1175
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: have got.

1176
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: He gave me stacks like it was just ridiculous. He

1177
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: would give me like six grand a week and be

1178
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: like here, don't don't work done nowhere.

1179
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: See that's why a boring dude ain't got no chance,

1180
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 2: because you got a motherstucker's giving you six thousand dollars

1181
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 2: a week, and you can go to a dude that's

1182
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: making three thousand dollars a month and you can look

1183
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: at him like, man, you ain't got a chance.

1184
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: I've dated guys that you know don't make that much money.

1185
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you dated them, but after a while

1186
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: you was like, man, this ain't working for me.

1187
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: Yes, like just miss the last three time.

1188
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: You missed thing because you get bored with that dude, Like, man,

1189
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: we only get to go out once a week or

1190
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: twice a month of that man and he ain't got

1191
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: no money for this.

1192
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: I can't go get my hair done.

1193
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: If any No. I've dated guys where I was the

1194
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: one working. I mean I've been in all types of

1195
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: situations I've been. I've been given, you know, the money,

1196
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: and I've also been the provider, like just trying to

1197
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: help them get up.

1198
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: But well, when you love somebody, that's just like a

1199
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: genuine thing to do. I don't think like they always

1200
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: say money came by love. But that's where I don't know.

1201
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 2: No rich motherfucker's this loan.

1202
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah they might not have love, but that she was

1203
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: hell ain loanly.

1204
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. A poor man, that's all

1205
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: I could do. I can't do nothing but pray for you.

1206
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: Yep.

1207
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 4: That was the end of the podcast right there.

1208
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: No on Jesus came in the podcast the blue I was,

1209
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: that's your great right there? Yeah it is, well, we

1210
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: could do it that way. But this is what I

1211
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: want to do. I want to set you in glasses

1212
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: up to do with something.

1213
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: Okay, But I want him to.

1214
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: Come to your world because I want to push him

1215
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: to the limits. I want him to come off with

1216
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: one of your style of beats and come on there

1217
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: and do what it.

1218
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: Is you do.

1219
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: You want you want him to record over here?

1220
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. If I'm sitting at home see my

1221
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: homie again.

1222
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: Here there's nothing.

1223
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: I'll be okay, I'll be good.

1224
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: Now we shoot the video down give some of the

1225
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: beat we record here, but we shoot the video down here.

1226
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: We go out there and shoot the video.

1227
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gangster for sure, you know out here.

1228
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: It'd be cool. That'll be cool with you down here.

1229
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: Pretty it's not like goon or you know.

1230
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: No, it ain't what you're going he want to be.

1231
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: He's going to be in the hood.

1232
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1233
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: Where would he have to fly into? He would have

1234
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: to fly into Dallas or Houston.

1235
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: Probably you're they're probably gonna make him fly into Did

1236
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: you guys have international flights?

1237
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 3: Of course?

1238
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: Okay, well then you may just fly into Mexico City

1239
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: or maybe yeah, maybe Dallas and then Mexico City. No,

1240
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: it is far, but I don't know how they're international flights.

1241
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: You could just go to Dallas and I'll pick you

1242
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: up in McAllen. You know that's easier that way. You

1243
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: don't have to take international flights.

1244
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be better right there? How far are you

1245
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: from Michel Khan? How far is Michell Khan for me?

1246
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: Mission Kan?

1247
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: Like, like I think Michell Khan Mexican Miche Khan.

1248
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: It's mit you met your level dose. Do you know

1249
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: she knows college to Clary. I guess.

1250
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: So by some more young ladies around there. Who else

1251
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 3: who your friends is over there with you?

1252
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: It's my my security must occurred, not my curios.

1253
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: Of your curios.

1254
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what so mission because the reason I asked,

1255
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 2: that's where my wife is from.

1256
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, she's from there. I always you always wanted

1257
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: to go down there.

1258
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Yeah, they got great food out there.

1259
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm getting scared, manse You know one things, I'm black

1260
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: and my wife is making I don't want nobody to

1261
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:44,959
Speaker 2: think I'm a basketball player.

1262
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: I'm tall, I'm big, I'm tall, strong looking.

1263
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to think over we caught her here

1264
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: a football player. I'm gonna tell y'all, y'all kid me, y'all, y'all.

1265
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: I will keep her because we got.

1266
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: There's certain I ain't got no red man. Settle down, sir,

1267
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: settle down. I know what she liked. I guess I'm

1268
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: glad we've heard about you guys.

1269
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: I'm glad we got to do this.

1270
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: Man.

1271
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 3: I think this was fun.

1272
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: It was a tree and hopefully it expands your personality

1273
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: to the rest of the world.

1274
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: Man, you blow up.

1275
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate. I really really was looking forward to

1276
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: jumping on your show Gangster Chronicles, you know, I mean,

1277
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm excited and forward to see what comes after this.

1278
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure we go do some other stuff for serious.

1279
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: I got some ideas about some stuff, but we gonna

1280
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: talk about that off air. And here y'all go. You

1281
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: know we international wood it should? I should I make

1282
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: another version of so called gangs the Chronicles International. Wee international.

1283
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: I need the subtitles please so.

1284
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: That I made sure know what you tonight, and I

1285
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 2: made sure that we had it for Spanish, and they

1286
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: give you a gifven type of Spanish.

1287
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: I said, no, I want the Mexican Spanish. Don told

1288
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 3: that you're Spanish.

1289
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: No Mexican Spanish can understand you know what's going on?

1290
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: To see?

1291
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, how they say it for me? HENDI? Yeah,

1292
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: all right, we're gone.

1293
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: Well that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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