1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Good day. I am Steve Schmidt with the warning, and 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: I am thrilled today to be joined by the chief 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: executive Officer of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, Governor Andy Basher. 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Welcome, Governor, thanks for having me on. Excited for the conversation. 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Governor, I'm gonna ask you to react to something. I'm 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna take you back. The year is nineteen eighty four. 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Andy Basheer is seven. This is the summer of Mary 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: lou Retten vaulting into a perfect ten. When Doves Cry 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: is the number one single, Beverly Hills Cop the number 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: one movie, and there is a young up and comer 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: and ambitious young man, the chief executive of Jefferson County, 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell. 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: Let's watch. 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: My job was to find d. Huddleson and get him 15 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: back to work. Huddleson was missing big votes on Social Security, 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 4: the budget, It's defense, even agriculture. Huddleson was skipping votes 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: but making an extra fifty thousand dollars giving speeches. I 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: just missed him. When d skip votes for his one 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: thousand dollars Los Angeles, it still boys, We got him now. 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: I was close at these two thousand dollars speech in 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: Puerto Rico. D Huddleston, thank you very much. We can't 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: find d. Maybe we gotta let him make speeches and 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: switch to Mitch for sentiments. 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: Of course, that young man was a devotee of term 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: limits forty two years ago. Think that ad kind of 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: from where we are right now, brings it full circle. 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: Just about what do you say, sir? 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: That ad shows that irony is real. Yes, and apparently 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: karma is too. The way that he became a US 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: senator was saying, the most basic thing you have to 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: do is show up for work. And if you can't 32 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: show up for work, you got a level with the 33 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: people that you serve. 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: About not showing up to work. 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 2: So here we are six weeks of Mitch McConnell being 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: in the hospital where he hasn't verbally talked to the 37 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: people of Kentucky or one news organization whatsoever. What has 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: happened now is lots of speculation out there, But listen, 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: this is an issue. 40 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: Of his own making. 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: The very least we obligation that we have, knowing that 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: when we run for office we give up some of 43 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: our privacy, is to show the people you serve that 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: you have the capacity to keep serving them. 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: He needs to do that or resign. Yeah. 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right, of course, but this is 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: a bigger issue. I was on the Daily Beast podcast 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: earlier with Joanna Calls and I mentioned that I would 49 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: be on with you this afternoon and one of the 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: things she said, well, you worked in politics, and we're 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: known as a community munications advisor. What advice would you 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: give to Mitch McConnell's staff. And my advice was get 53 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: lawyers right. I don't. How do you see what appears 54 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: to many of us to be the possibility of a 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: fantastical fraud being committed here? And I asked that with 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: this context, my father eighty years old, a rock ribbed Republican. 57 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: In fact, he was the deputy Majority Leader of the 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: New Hampshire Legislature. We're driving down in New Hampshire Country 59 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: read there's a zero to one thousand conspiracy theory scale. 60 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: I placed him at exactly dead zero on it right, 61 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: no capacity to believe in any of it. And I go, hey, Dad, 62 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question straight up. Do you 63 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: think there's any chance that Mitch McConnell had a twenty 64 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: minute conversation with Scott Jennings or the Senate Senate majority 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: leader about Senate history here, and he's driving all right, 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: and I'm hey, looks I guess of course not, of 67 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: course not. And so so if I were to ask 68 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: you to question, is miss McConnell dead, your answer is 69 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: obviously I don't know. But I don't think that that's 70 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: the right answer. I think the precise answer to deal 71 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: with the situation is who's to know? 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: Who's to know? 73 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: How can you know? And isn't that a deep symptom 74 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: of the rot that has infected our politics, a moment 75 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: so grotesque where the lie so surrounds the truth that 76 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: in the case of a man who for so long 77 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: was the majority leader of the Senate, it's impossible to 78 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: know is he alive? Is he dead? Is he in 79 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: a comas in the vegetative states? Does he have sense? 80 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: Is a machine keeping them alive? What's going on? How 81 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: do you, as you get up and deal with what 82 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: has all the features of a force in all the 83 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: makings of a tragedy for the republic? Think about that 84 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: in those terms? Philosophically, This confrontation that we're witnessing between 85 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: centencesm and idealism. 86 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: Well, I think the American people deserve better Democrat, Republican 87 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: or independent. We deserve better than someone who either can't 88 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: or won't level with the American people about their health. 89 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 2: And we deserve better the majority leadership in the US 90 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: Senate that I sent a letter to John Thune saying, 91 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: it's not just Mitch McConnell that has a duty to 92 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: talk about his capacity, it's yours too. You are the 93 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: majority leader of the Senate. This is one of your members, 94 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: and a vacancy can only be created in one of 95 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: three ways a death, a resignation, or expulsion from the. 96 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: Senate by a Senate vote. 97 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: This is your obligation too, as the leader of that chamber, 98 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: to assure the American people that that capacity is there. 99 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: And I don't mean to stoke any conspiracy theories. But 100 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: John Thune's answer wasn't I talked to him and he's fine. 101 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: It wasn't Okay, I'll go check on him because I 102 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: know he's fine. It was this is an issue between 103 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: McConnell and the people of Kentucky. 104 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: That is a really worrisome answer. And then you. 105 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 2: Mentioned how long he was majority leader and He talks 106 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: about that all the time. 107 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: He talks about that as his legacy. 108 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: But if you think about what Mitch McConnell's Wikipedia page 109 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: in five years is going to look like, this is 110 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: eating it up. This is going to be the largest 111 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: part now of a multi decade career. How he went out, 112 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: how he refused to be transparent and open and honest, 113 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: and what he's doing right now is potentially ruining whatever 114 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: legacy he thinks he has. But let me just switch 115 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: over to one other piece. I'm pushing for him to 116 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 2: be open and honest because I think it's what the 117 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: people of Kentucky deserve. But I don't mind that he's 118 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: missing certain votes because if the shoe was on the 119 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: other foot, he wouldn't be ruthless about trying to get 120 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: someone else in the seat. 121 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: He'd be ruthless on what the vacancy means. 122 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: And what it means is one less vote for the 123 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: Save Act, one less vote for a potential conservative Supreme 124 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Court replacement, one less vote to support Trump and Iran, 125 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: one less vote to harm the American people. And so 126 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of nuance in this, but 127 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: I'm doing the right, nonpartisan thing for the people of 128 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: my state by saying you deserve a US senator that 129 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: will level with you, but at the same time pointing 130 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: out to some online that would push for a special 131 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: election that would likely result in someone that favors Trump 132 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: more than McConnell. 133 00:07:54,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: So one hundred percent correct on all points. And I 134 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: think you're handling this very very well. And I too, 135 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: have noticed that there is some criticism about what you 136 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: should or shouldn't be doing. I want to go I 137 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: want to go through some of that. My very good, 138 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: great friend Dean Blundell, who I do this program with 139 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: twice a week, we are on on Friday and he goes, well, 140 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: can't he just go to the hospital and walk in 141 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: there and say I want to see him? And I 142 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: said no, I said he can't. 143 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: I said he. 144 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Can't present at the hospital and say it is I 145 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Andy Basher, governor of the Commonwealth, let me into the 146 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: hospital room. And I said, besides, right, he's in the 147 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: political party that doesn't believe that the government should be 148 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: in the hospital room with you, right at the moment 149 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: of death, at the moment of birth, right at most 150 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: moments in your life. Doesn't believe the government should be 151 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: peering in your bedroom window. Wants to get government out 152 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: of most intimate spaces. So no, he can't do that, right, 153 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: So long ass Mitch McConnell stays in the box, so 154 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: to speak, which is the room protected by a detail 155 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and hipo law. It's just impossible to know if you 156 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: have a dedicated staff of people committed to making sure 157 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: the people of Kentucky don't know. So the idea that 158 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: you have some extra constitutional power that upon assuming office 159 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,479 Speaker 1: you can see through walls, you can detect heartbeats, rhythms, 160 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: and other extraordinary powers, it's impossible. It's impossible to be 161 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: able to do that. And I think that's important for 162 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: people to understand. The burden isn't on you, the burden's 163 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: on him. 164 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, and the burdens should be on the US Senate 165 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: as well. Remember he's in a hospital in DC. I'm 166 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: a governor here in Kentucky, I'm a officer. I can't 167 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: create a vacancy in a federal office. 168 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: But the people who can. 169 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: And who have a responsibility to are in DC as well. 170 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: So Democrats oftentimes, when they see Republicans doing wrong, attack 171 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: other Democrats for not stopping them or fixing it. 172 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: How about we keep the focus on those doing wrong. 173 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: Why didn't Ran Paul go to that hospital, or why 174 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: isn't he being called on to do it to check 175 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: on his fellow Republican US senator. Why doesn't John Thune 176 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: have a duty to do it. Josh Holly is actually 177 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: saying we're missing votes by Mitch McConnell and we need him, but. 178 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: He won't go over either. 179 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 2: So I just think it's important, especially as we lead 180 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: up to elections, let's make sure when Republicans are doing wrong, 181 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: we spend as much, if not more time talking about 182 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: Republicans doing wrong than turning that fire onto Democrats. But 183 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: I also have heard some people say, well, if it 184 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: were Trump or if it were McConnell, they'd make up 185 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: authority and just somehow create a vacancy and call special election. 186 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: I have a Republican Secretary of State. That's not going 187 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: to happen even if you could. But I don't think 188 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 2: this country wants Democrats to be a democratic version of 189 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: Trump or McConnell. Yes, they want us to fight hard, 190 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: but you don't pledge to support and uphold the Constitution 191 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: and then do something that is far outside the rule 192 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: of law. I've beaten Mitch McConnell back to candidates three 193 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: straight times. We can be strong, we can fight, and 194 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: we can win without being them. 195 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: Amen. 196 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: I want to go through your constitutional authority as governor 197 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: to make the appointment because I want to be certain 198 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: that people understand this and tell me if I'm right 199 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: about this, if I understand what the core of the 200 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: issue is, and you're going to have obviously more familiarity 201 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: that familiarity with it than I do. But in essence, 202 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: what happened is the Republican legislature passed a law a 203 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: statue a statue to law to strip from the governor 204 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: of Kentucky his or her constitutional power which grants them 205 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: the appointment power of a vacant US Senate. See, is 206 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: that what happened. 207 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: So what you'll find with me is I'm always transparent 208 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: with the people of Kentucky and the American people. This 209 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: is an unsettled legal issue in Kentucky. So the legislature, 210 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: which my legislature, has a Republican supermajority, and we still 211 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: get things done. 212 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: It can be done in America. 213 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: But they have tried to strip power from democratic office 214 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: holders every. 215 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: Chance they get. 216 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: So they try to change the statute first to say 217 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: if it was a Republican in office, the Republican Party 218 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: had give me a list. 219 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: Of three and I had to pick from that. 220 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: Then they were worried about that, and so they passed 221 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: a law saying just a special election. Well, there is 222 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 2: a section of Kentucky's constitution that says for statewide positions 223 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: when they are vacant, a governor can make an appointment. 224 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: The question that's never been fully decided, because we've never 225 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: been at this point is does that apply to a 226 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: federal office or just state offices. I believe by the 227 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: plain wording that it applies to both, but people should 228 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: expect that if we end up in that situation. 229 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: I'm keeping all options on the table. 230 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: There's probably going to be some litigation, and the courts 231 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: are where people go to ultimately settle that. But if 232 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: there is a vacancy, I believe a governor should have 233 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 2: the power to a point to make sure that we 234 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 2: are represented as of people, especially during these very difficult times. 235 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: And there's one final nuance. 236 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: There's some people out there worried about August fourth, that 237 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: falls under the special election. 238 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: That would not impact the power or ability. 239 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: To appoint and so on this question of the appointment power. Again, 240 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: the legislature's passed the law, but the power exists granted 241 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: to the governor in the Kentucky Constitution to appoint office holders, 242 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: and heretofore, the legislative branch has never challenged in the 243 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: era of direct elections the power of the governor to 244 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: a point, a vacant senator in Kentucky. 245 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: That's right, and we haven't had a vacancy in a 246 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: long time. Trying to think back, it may have been 247 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: Wendell Ford when he went from governor to US senator. 248 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: But I believe that that constitutional power does provide a 249 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: governor that option, but there has to be a recognized vacancy. 250 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: A governor can't just create because that would confuse the 251 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: difference between the federal government and the state government. And 252 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: just think about all the shenanigans that would be pulled 253 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: if a governor could declare a Senate seat somehow vacant. 254 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: You would see abuse of that in really significant ways. 255 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: And so I think everybody, as you're watching a young governor, 256 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: successful governor with mastery of the constitutional issues, the power 257 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: of his office, the balance of powers that exist in 258 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: a republic in crisis because of Donald Trump, who's being 259 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: speculated about as a presidential candidate. You understand the merit 260 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: behind that speculation and the competence with which so many 261 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: of us expect to see among the leading Democratic aspirants 262 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: for the office of president that are so well embodied 263 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: by Governor Andy Basheer. And on this point, I think 264 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: that so many people don't understand this aspect about the 265 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: law and about how government works, which is that if 266 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: a legislative body passes a law, no matter how absurd 267 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: or on constitutional, it may be until that law has 268 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be tested. That law exists in a 269 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: state of untested reality, so they can say whatever, But 270 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: until and unless the situation arises where it can be tested, 271 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: which hasn't happened until this moment. It's an open question, 272 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: but not really if you think the Kentucky Constitution means 273 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: what it says, and what it says is the governor 274 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: has the appointment power, and so are you going to 275 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: be a fierce advocate for the institutional powers of the 276 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: chief executive officer of the of the Commonwealth of Kentucky 277 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: in this instance? 278 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: Always? And for those out there, I get it. 279 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: We live in a time that is it feels like 280 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: everything out of control and people are calling for action. 281 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: Which I think I'm taking. 282 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: I've amped up the pressure in this situation significantly. But 283 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: what I'd say is, we don't want to just take 284 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: one aggressive action. 285 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: Because it feels good. 286 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: We want to make sure that we do the right 287 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: thing and the smart thing, and we consider all those 288 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: repercussions because really that's what the other side would do. 289 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: Let's make sure that we don't transform ourselves into everything 290 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: that we believe is harming or threatening this country. There 291 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: is a way forward, and I think in this instance, 292 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: we are bringing maximum pressure to a senator and a 293 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: Senate majority that just have to do the most basic 294 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: thing in communicating and being honest with the American people, 295 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: while also making sure that we don't create an extra 296 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: vote for all. 297 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: The things that we fear the Senate may do. 298 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: Governor, we are five months, one hundred billion dollars into 299 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: a war that Trump has declared over at least thirty 300 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: two times. How do you view is what is happening 301 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: in the Middle East. There is a momentous event that 302 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: occurred this week that I think is under reported and 303 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: commented on, which is that a Ukrainian drone struck an 304 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: Iranian ship in the Caspian Sea. Combining these two theaters 305 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: of war. What should the American people know about this 306 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: moment in time and the danger we're facing. 307 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: The American people should know that Donald Trump and his 308 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: foreign policy are absolute failures. He got us into a 309 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: war of choice that has only made the company, the 310 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: country that we went to war with, more powerful. 311 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: Iran is more. 312 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: Powerful today based on their control of the straight of 313 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 2: woor mooths than they were before this war started, without 314 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 2: any realistic goal that could be achieved, going in with 315 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: regime change, thinking it would be just like Venezuela, meaning 316 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: he didn't spend the time to even learn or listen 317 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: about Iran. He then wants to sell us different reasons 318 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: that we should be there, such as we have to 319 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: make sure they don't have a nuclear weapon, which he 320 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: told us a year ago that he obliterated any chance of. 321 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: He either lied to us then or is lying to 322 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: us now. His war is not only hugely increasing the 323 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: national deficit and debt, it is increasing the hurt on 324 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: the American people. And most people think of gas prices 325 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: and they should but I want you to think about 326 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: a soybean farmer. First, Trump's policies have already hit them hard. 327 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 2: USAID was one of the big clients that they would 328 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: sell to, because making sure people don't starve around the 329 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: world is the type of soft power that makes people 330 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: like the United States. Then Trump, in trying to shut 331 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: down the US Department of Education, cut the farm to 332 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: Cafeteria program. Then is tariffs on China sent them the 333 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: largest buyer of soybeans in the world to Brazil and 334 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Argentina hitting them more. Now, the war in Iran isn't 335 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: just making gas more expensive, it's making diesel much much 336 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: more expensive. 337 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: Look at that price. 338 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: That's what all the farm machinery runs on. And oh yes, 339 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: a third of all the fertilizer in the world that 340 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: they all need comes through the strait of hormoots. This 341 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: is not just bungling international. It is really damaging at home. 342 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: And he doesn't have a way out of it. And 343 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: part of it is look at who he sent to negotiate. 344 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: We have amazing people in the Foreign Service that spend 345 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: decades understanding every nuance of every word that an Iranian 346 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: negotiator would say at the table to put us in 347 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: the best position to get a piece deal that prevents 348 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon. 349 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: But we don't send them. 350 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: We see send a developer and a son in law, 351 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: and then a vice president who is way out of 352 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: his leg just being vice president, much less trying to 353 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: negotiate and failing to negotiate any less peace. It is 354 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: bananas that foreign policy would be conducted this way, and 355 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: that the Senate and the House haven't stopped it and 356 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: are allowing a president to just go to war and 357 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: make decisions on his gut when we know our munitions 358 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: are low, when we know our sailors have been on 359 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: some of the longest deployments ever. It is the worst 360 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: that you could ever potentially run a foreign conflict here here. 361 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: Good for you for saying it too, with such clarity 362 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: in a moment when there's such muddy water around a 363 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: real crisis for the country, in the imbecility around this. 364 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: Are you worried about him lashing out now and invading Cuba, 365 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: hunting for his success somewhere, to change the story, to 366 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: change the subject, to try to lay a high card 367 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: upon his low car and move on, which is the 368 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: Trumpian style. 369 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and it would stretch an already overly stretched military 370 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: in ways that would make us less safe. But when 371 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: he tells people that he's trying to make Americans safer, 372 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: look at what he's done with Canada, pushing them closer 373 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: to China, and that's our entire northern border, insulting a 374 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: country that has gone into every major conflict with us, 375 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: even when they know we were wrong because we've had 376 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: that close of a relationship. Look at what he's doing 377 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: pushing South Korea in Japan closer to China. And without 378 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: those two allies, we don't have the technology we need 379 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: to compete with the threat that is China. He has 380 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: taken the United States from being leader of the free 381 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 2: world to being the bully on the playground. And so 382 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: when I look at what the next Democratic administration is 383 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: going to have to do, the three most important things 384 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: are fix the economy, fix the guy government, and fix 385 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: our standing in the world. 386 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: The state of Kentucky is a beautiful, beautiful part of 387 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: this country. Take your breath away part of the country. 388 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: And I got a question for you. Where does bourbon 389 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: come from? 390 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: Oh, Bourbon comes from the Commonwealth of Kentucky in all parts. 391 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: Being a former Attorney general, I can tell you ninety 392 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: five percent of the world's bourbon is made in Kentucky 393 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: and the other five percent is counterfeit. So Kentucky Kentucky bourbon, 394 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: you know, the heardest around our Bardstown area. But it's 395 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: our limestone springs that create water that combines with the staves, 396 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 2: that's the wood in the barrel, that create this unique 397 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: artisan flavor. 398 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 3: We're very proud of. 399 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: It in these in these springs are ubiquitous in Kentucky. 400 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: And in fact, if you go to the first National 401 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: park site in the country, it's Abraham Lincoln's home site 402 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: right next to a Kentucky spring of the type you're talking. 403 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: What's the largest market in the world for Kentucky bourbon? 404 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: What did it used to be? 405 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, the United States is the largest market, but Canada's 406 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 2: right behind it. And Canadians stopped drinking bourbon when Donald 407 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Trump told them they didn't deserve to be a country. 408 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: And while I'm proud of them for standing up for 409 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: their country, no one should be without good Kentucky bourbon. 410 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: So I hope we can move past this, and I 411 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: hope we can re establish the relationship, which needs to 412 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: be more than just a tactical relationship, and Canada's going 413 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: to need to know that not only was this a 414 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: blip in our history, but cannot and will not happen again. 415 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: But I think we're headed in that direction because so 416 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: many people believe that Trump would bring down prices, and 417 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: he's making their life so much harder. And so for 418 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: somebody who's maybe being a republican's been a part of 419 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: their identity and jumped on board with Trump so strongly, 420 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: feeling of betrayal is setting in and that creates I 421 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: hope are McCarthy is a moment where we can take 422 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: a breath out and move forward. 423 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: And they and if you're in the Kentucky bourbon industry, 424 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's done a lot of damage to your livelihood. 425 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 2: Oh yes, everything from tariffs that prevent new markets from 426 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: opening up because bourbon is still not sold in a 427 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: lot of countries around the world, so there is expansion opportunities, 428 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: but that grows increasingly difficult. While we finally resolved that 429 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: tariff's with the UK because we sell our barrels to 430 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: Scotch makers because the reason Scotch is so good is 431 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: it's now aged in bourbon barrels, and so what We've 432 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: seen our entire facility shut down, bottling lines shut down. 433 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: People are losing their jobs in the bourbon industry, primarily 434 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: because of Donald Trump and its policies. 435 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: Governor, I think one of the amazing realities of this 436 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: era is that after eleven years of Trump, objectively, you 437 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: look at real polling, the American people think the Democratic 438 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: Party is the more extreme of the two parties. It 439 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: is a astonishing and and dubious achievement and one that 440 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: I think you're one of the You're one of the 441 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: remedies UH for. And I think that a lot of 442 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: people think of the Democratic Party through its congressional phase. 443 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: And we have a lot of great members of Congress, 444 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: young members of Congress, UH that are that are that 445 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: are out there. I know John Oss office is running 446 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: an exceptional race in in Georgia. You're the chair of 447 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: the Governor's Association the Have you thought about convening the 448 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: governors or the Democratic governors or have the Democratic governors 449 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: together thought about convening? As we count down at about 450 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: ninety eight days now, right, so that makes it let's 451 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: call it. We're sixty eight days away from the start 452 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: of early voting in some places, and Donald Trump is 453 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: increasingly making unhinged pronouncements that don't seem to be understood 454 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: as needing rebuttal by some of the leaders of the 455 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Democratic Party in Washington. Do you think that the Democratic 456 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: governors might be the people that need to speak up 457 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: and that the American people might hear from I'll just say, 458 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: as an old political consultant, that it might be a 459 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: good thing if the American people hear more from you 460 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: over the next one hundred days. 461 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 462 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: I believe that Democratic governors should be the face of 463 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party for a number of reasons. First, because 464 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: we get things done in an era where Donald Trump 465 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: the moon and delivered more pain. I've created more jobs 466 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: than any other governor. And our average wage for a 467 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: new job in Kentucky last year was almost thirty dollars 468 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: an hour, and we're going to beat it this year. 469 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: At a time when there isn't enough housing, we're building 470 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: more and faster than we having a long time, including 471 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: in eastern Kentucky, moving people from that floodplain where you've 472 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: seen the terrible floods. And I'm building affordable housing on 473 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: top of former coal mines with solar panels on the top. 474 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: So you can afford to buy the house, but your 475 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: average utility bills between twenty five and fifty dollars. So 476 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: when people think that Democrats can't get things done, I'm 477 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: in a Trump plus thirty one state, a democratic governor 478 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: building affordable housing on top of coal mines with solar 479 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: panels on top. So I think we can do big 480 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: things when it comes to this election. If Donald Trump 481 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: wants to steal it, he's got to come through us. 482 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: And those are the democratic governors, and we are meeting 483 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: and we are making sure that we are prepared. 484 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: But it's not just us. 485 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: I want to give credit to our democratic attorneys general 486 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: who have been amazing at challenging this president when he's 487 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: broken the law, and I've joined with them because my 488 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: attorney general, who's a Republican, will not. It's also the 489 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: secretaries of state who have very strongly come together under 490 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: good leadership, and we are all meeting to make sure 491 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: that we are ready for anything they can throw at us. 492 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: But I would warn. 493 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: This administration that some of the things that they might 494 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: think about or throw out there probably won't turn out 495 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: the way they think. Listen, if ICE agents try to 496 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: be in cities around polling places. I know the American people, 497 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: we will see the longest lines we've ever seen. 498 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: People will be singing. 499 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: In those lines, because when you come for people's ability 500 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: to vote, they respond, and you will have a lot 501 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: of people that might have otherwise voted Republican that say 502 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: this is not right, this is not America, and show 503 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: up and vote differently. 504 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: At the beginning of the American story, long long ago, 505 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: John Winthrop talked about we shall be in the massachie 506 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: It's Bay Colony as a city upon a hill, the 507 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: old scriptural reference. John Kennedy talked about we shall be 508 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: as a city upon a hill in his famous Arabella 509 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: speech before the Massachusetts Legislature before resigning his Senate seat 510 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: to take the presidential Ronald Reagan talked about we shall 511 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: be as a city upon a hill. And if we 512 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: are to be a city upon a hill, we have 513 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: to start. It seems to me the climb again. And 514 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: do you think about this mythology, this conception that I 515 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: that I talk about, Does it have a residence with 516 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: you or is it? Is it something that leaves you flat? 517 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: But what is your north star? Where must we go? 518 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Governor Bashir as a Republic in the early hours of 519 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: our two hundred and fiftieth year, that we must have 520 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: faith that our best days are ahead. 521 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: Now. 522 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: It resonates deeply with me, and it's why I'm still 523 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: speaking out now. My kids deserve a functional, aspirational country 524 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: where the American dream is not only real, but it 525 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: burns bright in the minds of our people. That people 526 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: can change their circumstance by working hard, by playing by 527 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: the rules. They will want to have families because they 528 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to leave kids better off. They can 529 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: look around and know that yes, things aren't perfect here, 530 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: but we are blessed to live in the United States 531 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: of America where all of this is possible. It resonates 532 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: with me because faith is at the core of who 533 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: I am. 534 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: I live my life by the Golden Rule. 535 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: It says, I love my neighbors myself and the parable 536 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: the good Samaritan that says everyone is our neighbor. And 537 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: I think that City on the Hill almost goes back 538 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 2: to that parable where somebody's lying a lygne naked, bleeding 539 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: hurt on the side of the road, and everybody that 540 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: looks like him, votes like him and prays like him. 541 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: Goes to the other side and walks on yet someone 542 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: so different, someone who was raised to probably hate that person, 543 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: picks them up, carries them to safety, and by the way, 544 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: pays for their health care moving forward. People miss that 545 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: part of the story. Now, at the end of that though, 546 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: Jesus looks at the crowd and says, go and do likewise. 547 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: That's the name of the book that I've got coming out. 548 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 2: It's the idea that we were given an instruction, not 549 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 2: just told a story. We ought to be a country 550 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: where we are Americans first, where our neighbor is never 551 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: the enemy from within, where we strive to independently do 552 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: the best we can and for our family, but we 553 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: root for that neighbor too, regardless of what their party is. 554 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: So I sometimes tell people, if you're feeling two partisan, 555 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: walk out in your neighborhood, turn around and look at 556 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: the houses. At least a couple of them are going 557 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: to be someone from a different party, But you don't 558 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: don't want them to do badly, and you want their 559 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: kids to do really well. I have now governed through 560 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: fifteen federally declared weather disasters, and I'm waiting on a sixteenth. 561 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: We are not who Donald Trump says we are. He 562 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: would say that it'd be every man for themselves. There 563 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: would be looting, there would be stealing. 564 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: That's not what happens. 565 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: People come together, They support each other, they lift people up, 566 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: They help in rebuilding efforts for years on end. 567 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: I still have faith in humanity. 568 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: We've just got to be reminded of who we are 569 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: and get back to being Americans first, and Democrats. 570 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 3: Republicans and independents. Fourth, fifth or sixth. 571 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: The Commonwealth, of course, is the fifteenth state. It is 572 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: the birthplace of Abraham Lincoln. It has played such an 573 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: essential role in the formation the history of the United States, 574 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: and one of its great characters was Happy Chandler, or 575 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: a governor and the commissioner of baseball who played such 576 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: a vital role in its desegregation. When Branch Ricky gave 577 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: a professional contract to Jackie Robinson, who played his first 578 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: professional ball up in Montreal before he made his way 579 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: to the Brooklyn Dodgers. And you think about that moment 580 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: in history that set so much in motion. Martin Luther 581 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: King saying that I would not be standing here today 582 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: but for Jackie Robinson. And you look at what made 583 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson Possible, which was the double V campaign of 584 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: the Second World War, victory over fascism abroad and racism 585 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: at home, the valor of the segregated military units like 586 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: the four hundred and forty second All Japanese American Regimental 587 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: Combat Team that Senator Daniel Inneway served with and received 588 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: the Medal of Honor for his valor with, very famously 589 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: the pursuit squadrons that are famously called the Tuskegee Airman 590 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: Benjamin O. 591 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: Davis. 592 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: We live in an era we are seeing the careers, 593 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: the dignity, the patriotism of black officers cashiered in the 594 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: military because of Pete Hagsa's racial animis and I and 595 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: I wanted to give you an opportunity to speak out 596 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: against that because I know you feel so strongly about 597 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: the dignity of every American and our and are and 598 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: are deeply affronted by the vandalism, a moral racist vandalism 599 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: being done to the Senior Officer Corps of the United 600 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: States Armed Forces, which has always been one of the 601 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: more progressive institutions in the country in terms of expend 602 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: extending first opportunities to both minorities and to women. 603 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: And diversity is a strength and never a weakness, and 604 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: we make better decisions when people can bring different perspectives 605 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: to the table. I'll give you the exact opposite of 606 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: what we're seeing with Pete Hegsea. In Kentucky, we celebrate 607 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: what used to be Colonel Charles Young. He was the 608 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: highest ranking African American officer in the military during his time, 609 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 2: but he did not make general because of racism during 610 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: that time. They tried to retire him, and he rode 611 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 2: a horse from Maisleck, Kentucky, to Washington, d C. 612 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: To prove that he still had it. 613 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: He was a foreign attache, he spoke multiple languages, and 614 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: so when we've got a chance to correct history, we 615 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: ought to do it. So I promoted him through our 616 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: National Guard to brigadier general, and I petitioned President Biden 617 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: to officially do it in the US Army, which he did. 618 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: And so while General Hill wasn't here to see it, 619 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: we made an important statement about the value of every 620 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 2: human being and that racism is wrong in every way 621 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: we see it. And if I can circle back to 622 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: what you were talking about with Jackie Robinson and Martin 623 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: Luther King, when Jackie Robinson stopped playing baseball. He and 624 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: Martin Luther King led the march on Frankfurt, where I'm 625 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 2: sitting right now. They marched into the governor's office and 626 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: it led to the first Civil Rights Act passed in 627 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: the South. So all of that came back around through 628 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 2: these legendary leaders that we should still be lifting up 629 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: and recognizing and not pulling down material about them. 630 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: Been so incredibly generous with your Tom, Governor. I got 631 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: a last question for you, and I know you feel 632 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: strongly about this as well. I think it's tough to 633 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: make an argument that the Democratic Party exists today in 634 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: the United States in twenty twenty six functionally as a 635 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: national party. I think it's a regional party that was 636 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: once a great national party. And I think one of 637 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: the evidence points of that is a practical reality is 638 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: the abandonment of candidates who are exceptional in places like 639 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: Louisiana and Mississippi. And Louisiana we have a great farmer, 640 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: Jamie Davis running against the crackpot MAGA candidate. We have 641 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: Scott Collom, who's a prosecutor in Mississippi. Mississippi, of course, 642 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: is the home state of Mega Evers, Mega Evers assassinated 643 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: his gravestone. It spells out the entirety of the word 644 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: in Arlington, unique amongst the headstones Mississippi, Fanny lou Hamer, 645 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: the civil Rights Plank into the Mississippi platform. Billions of 646 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 1: dollars will be spent in total and aggregate in this 647 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: election cycle in the proposition I think that many in 648 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: Washington have, which is, you don't understand we don't have 649 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: any money to spend in Louisiana and Mississippi doesn't work. 650 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: I think for the party for the future, it has 651 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: to be a great national party. Again, how do you 652 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: think about the Democratic Party in the Mountain West, in 653 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: the South. What is it that you would say to 654 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: people and specifically those candidates. I think that it's important 655 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: for everyone who stands in opposition of this, particularly in 656 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: the places that are the heart and soul of the 657 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: party that I have a thirty five percent of the 658 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: population is black, that you have to send a message 659 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: that says we're gonna be here, We're going to plant 660 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: the flag here, and nobody's leaving until we win elections. 661 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: And in Mississippi you had a governor candidate who came 662 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: within three points of winning an election. I don't think 663 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: it's science fiction that a Democrat could win in Mississippi, 664 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: because I think one of the things that could happen 665 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: in this November election is the highest turnout ever recorded 666 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: amongst Black Americans amongst Democrats, and a midterm election and 667 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: a complete collapse of the MAGA coalition, which makes anything 668 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: possible in a lot of these close races. But I 669 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: just I wanted to not give a speech, but ask 670 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: you a question about these Deep South races, about how 671 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: does the Democratic Party get back into business in the South, 672 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: in the Mountain West. 673 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: Well, As a Southern Democrat, I know what it's like 674 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 2: to be left out, to be under invested in, and 675 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: sometimes to be looked down upon. But if you look, 676 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: we have scrapped our way back to the table. Three 677 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 2: Southern Democratic governors, two Southern US Senators, with at. 678 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 3: Least one more on the way. With Roy Cooper, you're. 679 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 2: Going to see a Midwestern governor and Rob sand I 680 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: think we're going to see one in Amy Acton as well. 681 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 2: So I can certainly tell you from the DGA where 682 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: I can have a direct help make those decisions. We're 683 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 2: going to support candidates in places that people aren't expecting, 684 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 2: because this party has to show up everywhere and get 685 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: dirt on our boots. That's how we get back to 686 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: national prominence. That's how we win elections, and then it's 687 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 2: how we govern for all the people in the United 688 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: States of America, not moving us right or left, but 689 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: just moving us forward. 690 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 3: Everybody. 691 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: He's been very generous with his time, the Governor of 692 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Kentucky, Andy Basher, chairman of the Democratic 693 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: Governors Association or National Governors Association. 694 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 2: Democratic Governors Association, and I'm going to help win those. 695 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: Races, right and of the Democratic Governors Association on the 696 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: front lines and winning these races. An exceptional political leader, 697 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: and I hope somebody is going to get very very consious, yeah, 698 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: very very serious weight to running for president. Governor Bashir, 699 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: thank you for your time.