WEBVTT - Episode 5: Citizen Willis

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<v Speaker 1>Originals. This is an I Heart original. It's one fine

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<v Speaker 1>winter's day in the late ninety nineties and prominent Hailey lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Slender, is busy working from home, like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his out there in heavy snow country. I had

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<v Speaker 1>my house upstairs, in my office is downstairs. You build

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<v Speaker 1>on two layers because our our winners are so long

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<v Speaker 1>and so much as snow and cold, that it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Lee. Lee is deposing a client of his, Jim Lovey,

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<v Speaker 1>whose heating and ventilation firm is alleging their owed fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand dollars over an unpaid invoice. Lovey says that

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<v Speaker 1>their client, Valley Entertainment, has refused to settle the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>We were downstairs taking the deposition and Bruce came charging

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<v Speaker 1>in and like, you know, boy, the lone rangers here.

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<v Speaker 1>And he sat down and listen for a bit and was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just kind of I don't know, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you say, puffing and puffing and being a little ledger.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Lee, Bruce Willis starts making faces and emitting

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<v Speaker 1>strange noises. He's like a student acting out in class,

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<v Speaker 1>like he can't believe Jim Lovey has the audacity to

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<v Speaker 1>tell his side of the story. Now, to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>Lovey is not alleging Bruce Willis owes him money. He's

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<v Speaker 1>alleging Valley Entertainment owes him money. And Bruce Willis is

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<v Speaker 1>never a named party in the suit. But Willis does

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<v Speaker 1>own Valley Entertainment. Who does allegedly, Oh, Lovey the money?

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<v Speaker 1>And clearly he's taking this a little personally. And he

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<v Speaker 1>jumped up out of his chair and ran up the

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<v Speaker 1>stair He didn't know where it was. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know the building again, this is a home office. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife was upstairs in the kitchen cooking, and he

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<v Speaker 1>ran right into her. She said something like, well, hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Willis, how are you. He didn't realize it was

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<v Speaker 1>all I don't know where he thought that stairway went.

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<v Speaker 1>But boy, if you could hear everything crashing bang as

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<v Speaker 1>you tried to find the door out and he finally did,

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<v Speaker 1>it was clear Willis didn't think much of the allegations,

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<v Speaker 1>or of any kind of descent in Haley. The fuss

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<v Speaker 1>over an unpaid bill was a kind of objection. Willis had,

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<v Speaker 1>after all, employed countless skilled tradespeople for his projects. He

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<v Speaker 1>had injected millions into Haley's economy, and in doing so,

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<v Speaker 1>he had become possibly the strongest force in the community.

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<v Speaker 1>He had what he had long enjoyed in Hollywood, power influence.

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<v Speaker 1>The days of being a quiet resident were over. There

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<v Speaker 1>were battles to fight now, legal ones, political ones. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis had a platform. Sometimes he'd use it to

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt a deposition, other times he'd use it on bigger issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But even movie stars have limits, and while Bruce Willis

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<v Speaker 1>might have been able to rattle the people of Haley,

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<v Speaker 1>influencing the entire state of Idaho would be a different story,

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<v Speaker 1>and quite possibly a disaster of nuclear proportions. For I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio, This is Hayleywood, an I Heart original podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Danis Schwartz, and this is episode five.

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<v Speaker 1>Citizen Willis. In spending years and millions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>constructing the Mint bar renovating the Liberty, erecting the E. G.

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<v Speaker 1>Willis Building, and more. Willis had employed dozens, perhaps hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of skilled laborers, and the vast majority didn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have any issue. When someone did well. They took his

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<v Speaker 1>Valley Entertainment to court. While Bruce Willis's deposition interruption may

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<v Speaker 1>not have been his finest moment. It may have been

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<v Speaker 1>born out of real frustration. The lawsuit brought by Jim

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<v Speaker 1>loves Eagle Company was a result of heating and ventilation

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<v Speaker 1>work done on the E. G. Willis Building. Jim Lovey

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<v Speaker 1>and his brother Jack sued for fifty four thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>then raised that number to one hundred and twenty thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>But the case had problems. A computer failure had wiped

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<v Speaker 1>out the company's detailed financial records. The judge ruled that

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes had been made by Eagle Company during installation. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>the court ruled in Willis's favor. By the time everything

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<v Speaker 1>was accounted for, Eagle Company was ordered to pay a

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<v Speaker 1>total of fifty nine dollars and seventy four cents. The

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<v Speaker 1>two story E. G. Willis Building was the source of

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<v Speaker 1>other issues. It was a symbol of Haley's evolution. Willis

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<v Speaker 1>had torn down one of the oldest buildings in Haley

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<v Speaker 1>to build it. Here's former Blaine County Commissioner and Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>historian Tom Blanchard. When they tore that building down, it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out the building next door to it had an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible mural on it. It was just beautiful. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an old Henry George cigar advertisement. The cigar was just

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<v Speaker 1>five cents and according to the ad, just for men.

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<v Speaker 1>When he tore that down and exposed that mural, he

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<v Speaker 1>left it up for a couple of weeks just so

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<v Speaker 1>people could enjoy it. And then eventually that building had

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<v Speaker 1>to go and he got torn down. Also, Old Haley

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<v Speaker 1>was slowly disappearing. When Willis put up his new building,

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<v Speaker 1>he pictured a retail complex, a Haley sized shopping center

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<v Speaker 1>with his fifty Styles diner. Shorty is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>flagship attractions. It was going to be retail. Let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a jewelist or a flower store owner or a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop guy, and it's like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>can get in and be in. You know, Willis's this

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<v Speaker 1>building and it's like the only building that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like that in town. That's Nancy Romelman. Nancy was

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<v Speaker 1>a writer for l a weekly who was dispatched to

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<v Speaker 1>Haley to see about Bruce Willis's investments. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a big deal, and you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>tourists that are gonna want to come in and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're writing on the fact that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>building that Bruce Willis built and built as Fair's grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>But Romelman says Willis's plans looked more like an office park.

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<v Speaker 1>So you sink your money and it's you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>sixty whatever it is. You build your floors and lighting

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, plans and insurance, and you do all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff and then oh, oh, actually it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be retail. We're just gonna for whatever reason, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't find tenants or they just changed their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. But now it's going to be offices. So

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<v Speaker 1>now you're this lonely dude on the second floor with

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<v Speaker 1>let's say a jewelry store. You're screwed. You're absolutely screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>You are definitely not going to get you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of tourists coming in to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>an office building and maybe go to your jewelry store.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's never going to happen. Romeolman spoke to Francois Parrie,

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<v Speaker 1>the owner of a furniture store in the building. He

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<v Speaker 1>insisted on meeting her in front of a hardware store

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<v Speaker 1>on the outskirts of town as though he were being

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<v Speaker 1>watched in a car. We sat in the car and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little strange. But obviously some people in

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<v Speaker 1>Haley felt like Willis was too powerful to go up against.

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<v Speaker 1>It made them a little paranoid. I recall him as

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<v Speaker 1>being definitely still pretty head up about the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Francois told Rommelman he had moved into the E. G.

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<v Speaker 1>Willis Building in his business was called primitive design, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was eager to bask in the sunshine supplied by

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<v Speaker 1>a Willis funded enterprise. And it was built as a

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<v Speaker 1>retail mall, but instead of clothing stores or ice cream parlors,

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<v Speaker 1>for SUA's neighbors were suits and business casual. The E. G.

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<v Speaker 1>Willis Building wasn't he felt as advertised? Who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go furniture shopping in an office building? Francois suit Willis

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<v Speaker 1>and Valley Entertainment to get back the thirty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>he had invested. Willis was off shooting another movie at

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<v Speaker 1>the time Francois filed his claim, Willis couldn't possibly fail

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<v Speaker 1>to show up on set. In order to appear in court.

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<v Speaker 1>They said it would cost over one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight thousand dollars in misproduction per day. Willis's attorney then

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<v Speaker 1>filed a counterclaim. Francois was also told that if he

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<v Speaker 1>lost the lawsuit, he would be responsible for Willis's travel costs.

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<v Speaker 1>For Bruce Willis that meant paying the fuel charges for

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<v Speaker 1>his private airplane. In the end, a jury rejected both claims.

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<v Speaker 1>Each party would be responsible for their own legal expenses.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was one of the guys that tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get his money back. He didn't want anything else. He

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to get what he'd invested in. And Willis's

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<v Speaker 1>crew fought him to the nail did and win it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I gotta tell you, you you gotta feel for these people. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>were they, you know, counting their chickens before they hatched

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<v Speaker 1>well shore? But that's what you know, hopeful business people do.

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<v Speaker 1>And they, you know, they didn't count on the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Willis could get out of whatever he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do a lot more easily than they could. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of options, they had. One Francois declared a

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<v Speaker 1>personal bankruptcy. Another small business owner, Tony Lanning, told Rammelman

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<v Speaker 1>that Willis had made her an offer to buy her

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<v Speaker 1>antique store. Willis wasn't interested in selling antiques. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the land for a planned entertainment complex. A set of

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<v Speaker 1>blueprints had been going around town detailing the plans, and

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<v Speaker 1>Landing was surprised to find they showed Willis as the

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<v Speaker 1>owner of her store. At the time the plans were made.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just assumed she would sell. Anything else was unthinkable,

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<v Speaker 1>but Landing wasn't interested in selling. It was another hiccup

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<v Speaker 1>in Haley, a sign that not everyone was over the

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<v Speaker 1>moon about Willis being there, especially if you like to

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<v Speaker 1>get a good night's sleep. The biggest issue that I

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<v Speaker 1>had with Willis um was associated with the airport, and

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<v Speaker 1>the airport was a problem. The major part of the

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<v Speaker 1>population is centered around that airport, within three miles of

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<v Speaker 1>it in the direct flight line. Tom Blanchard again, he

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<v Speaker 1>was flying a G two and he was m arm

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<v Speaker 1>and arm with Arnold Fortunegger who was also flying a

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<v Speaker 1>G two, and the G twos were the noisiest aircraft, large,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, large private aircraft that you did get other

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<v Speaker 1>than a layer jet. And he would fly on at

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<v Speaker 1>two o'clock in the morning with this G two or

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<v Speaker 1>Jake off that woke you up in Bellevue. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed as though Willis didn't know his own strength, what

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<v Speaker 1>his buying sprey was doing to disrupt the economic ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>of Haley, to say nothing of the noise pollution. If

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis wanted something, no one was going to outbid

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<v Speaker 1>him for it. If you wanted to develop the town,

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<v Speaker 1>he expected people would follow along. If you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>land a plane in the middle of the night, he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to land that plane, So what if there

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<v Speaker 1>was a little collateral damage. Besides, Willis didn't often have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the consequences of his decisions personally. That

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<v Speaker 1>job was left up to his Valley Entertainment. The head

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<v Speaker 1>of Valley was Joe McAllister, a childhood friend from New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey who Willis had imported to be his right hand man.

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<v Speaker 1>McAllister was a big guy, brash, not a bad guy,

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<v Speaker 1>just assured. Here's Nancy Ramelman, the guy who had been

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<v Speaker 1>sort of boost his money. Guy was someone that people

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<v Speaker 1>were intimidated by. He was apparently like a big dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was still around on the streets of Haley

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and people were, I don't think, like physically afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of the guy, but they were intimidated by him. McAllister

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of crap to deal with. Literally. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the problems facing the E. G. Willis Building was

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<v Speaker 1>the town's iron grip on sewer permits. There weren't any

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<v Speaker 1>to go around with the city's engineers, fearful of the

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<v Speaker 1>town had reached its capacity city the sewell was discharging

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<v Speaker 1>too much waste into Bigwood River, and the Environmental Protection

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<v Speaker 1>Agency was on their back. The following year, the town

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<v Speaker 1>finally relented, releasing one hundred and ten permits for sewer hookups,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was for everyone homeowners, business owners, anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>needed to use a bathroom in a town that was growing.

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<v Speaker 1>The E. G. Willis Building wanted ten permits to add

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<v Speaker 1>a salon, bakery, and other businesses, but the permits were

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<v Speaker 1>too hard to come by. When the city released them,

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<v Speaker 1>people grabbed lawn chairs and camped outside of Haley's city hall.

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<v Speaker 1>McAllister criticized the limits in the local press. He even

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<v Speaker 1>tried to shame Haley's decision makers by saying that Willis

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<v Speaker 1>planned to build a six hundred thousand dollar industrial light

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing building in nearby Bellevue. Willis would have built it

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<v Speaker 1>in Haley. McAllister said if only the business climate had

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<v Speaker 1>been friendlier. He said Bellevue had a quote cooperative spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>and he added Bellevue also had a sewer. Haley was

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<v Speaker 1>being potty shamed. The sewer capacity issue also stopped Demi

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<v Speaker 1>Moore's plans to turn an old drug store into a

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<v Speaker 1>fitness center. She also wanted to build a doll museum,

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<v Speaker 1>relying on her extensive two thousand dollar collection housed at

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<v Speaker 1>Freedman Mansion. Haley's gatekeepers wouldn't allow that either. Time and

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<v Speaker 1>time again, Willis wanted to grow Haley, and he kept

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<v Speaker 1>running into red tape and lawsuits. It was enough to

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<v Speaker 1>make some in Bruce's orbit want to get out of Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>In McAllister announced he was resigning as president of Valley Entertainment.

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<v Speaker 1>He was going back to nutr Z. One of Willis's

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<v Speaker 1>top employees at Valley Entertainment took over, but the regime

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<v Speaker 1>change didn't get off to a good start. Just a

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<v Speaker 1>few months into the new president's tenure, Haley police and

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<v Speaker 1>state officials executed a search warrant and found fifteen marijuana

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<v Speaker 1>plants on her private property. According to Idaho law, that

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<v Speaker 1>was considered manufacturing. She was taken into custody and faced

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<v Speaker 1>five years in prison or fine a fifteen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>if convicted. She argued the weed was for her personal use.

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<v Speaker 1>The charges were eventually dropped, but the feeling that Willis

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<v Speaker 1>and his crew were beyond reproach was wearing off. For Willis.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been a frustrating eighteen months. His main operator,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McAllister, had left, only to be replaced with someone

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<v Speaker 1>upon felony charges. Haley was getting stingy with were hookups

0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.960
<v Speaker 1>cramping his business expansion. His plan to improve the sidewalks

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the E. G. Willis Building was getting the

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<v Speaker 1>run around too, As he had with the mint Willis

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<v Speaker 1>wanted them. Heated to battle the snow of Haley's harsh

0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.320
<v Speaker 1>winters and keep his patrons from sliding, but first through

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<v Speaker 1>his front door justice. Haley had counted on him to

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<v Speaker 1>give their economy a boost and raise their profile. Willis

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<v Speaker 1>was becoming more and more ensnared in local politics. A

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<v Speaker 1>man who could command ten to twenty million to do

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<v Speaker 1>a movie was arguing with a town over where people

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<v Speaker 1>could go to take a dome. His political involvement would

0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:47.040
<v Speaker 1>soon grow into something that concerned the entire state of Idaho, and,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike Francois Parrie the sewer and the heated sidewalks, if

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<v Speaker 1>this one didn't go his way, Willis issued a stunning ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he'd leave for good. Bruce Willis became an astronaut. Well,

0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:16.240
<v Speaker 1>his character became an astronaut. In Armageddon, Willis plays Harry Stamper,

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<v Speaker 1>a deep sea oil driller. Stamper gets recruited by NASA

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<v Speaker 1>to help stop a humanity ending asteroid hurtling toward Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>The plan is Willis's character lands on the asteroid, drills

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<v Speaker 1>to its center, and plants a nuclear bomb inside, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he high tails it off the asteroid and blows

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<v Speaker 1>it up before it strikes her. Of course, things don't

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<v Speaker 1>go exactly as planned. The silliness of the plot wasn't

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:48.880
<v Speaker 1>lost on Willis's co stars. Ben Affleck once asked director

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bay why NASA couldn't simply train astronauts to become

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<v Speaker 1>oil drillers, which would probably be easier than doing it

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<v Speaker 1>the other way around. Michael Bay told Affleck to shut

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<v Speaker 1>the up. The movie would make half a billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>at almost the exact same time Bruce Willis was dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with a real life nuclear catastrophe. This one was at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Idaho's Nuclear Engineering and Environmental Laboratory, now known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Idaho National Laboratory, opened during World War Two. It generated

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear power and researched ways to deal with the waste

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<v Speaker 1>it created, so there was a lot of depleted uranium

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting around, among other things. It was near the

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<v Speaker 1>state's largest freshwater aquifer, sure, but at least it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of nowhere, well sixty miles east of

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<v Speaker 1>Haley to be exact. In the mid nineties, the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Idaho made a deal with the Department of Energy.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd allow the federal government to dump more than a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand shipments of new clear waste from out of state.

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<v Speaker 1>In return, the federal government promised to remove existing nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>waste from the state over a forty year period. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>Idaho would get a lot of dump trucks full of

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear waste in the short term in exchange for having

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it removed in the long term. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a great deal, but the alternative was bleak. The

0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>government could just dump nuclear waste there anyway, and Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>could get nothing at all in return. But not all

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>of Idaho's residents trusted the government word. If you had

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Idaho long enough, you knew the government had

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<v Speaker 1>first promised to remove the existing waste back in. Some

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<v Speaker 1>compared the whole situation to Chernobyl. Here's Wendy Jake what,

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<v Speaker 1>former executive director of the Catchum Sun Valley Chamber of Commerce.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a situation with regard to nuclear waste coming

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<v Speaker 1>into our state, and there was a campaign, a lot

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of it was from here against that. The campaign was

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<v Speaker 1>called Stopped the Shipments, and he was a fender for

0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:14.959
<v Speaker 1>that group. He saw himself as a Republican, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was angry at the Republican governor because he felt the

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:22.639
<v Speaker 1>governor that was violating the agreement the prior governor had made.

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<v Speaker 1>He donated ten grand to raise awareness for the cause,

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<v Speaker 1>a number that eventually grew to over one hundred and

0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:35.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand dollars. Even though he hated talking to the press,

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<v Speaker 1>Willis gritted his teeth and made his way through the

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<v Speaker 1>interviews to get the message across. And he framed it

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<v Speaker 1>as a kind of ultimatum. If I know didn't pass

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<v Speaker 1>the referendum, Willis said he would leave Haley and the

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<v Speaker 1>state altogether. If everyone votes yeah, we want it, I'll stop,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll shut up, and I'll start looking for another place

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<v Speaker 1>to live. He said. To some it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>Titian was being circulated to run Willis out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, if you signed it was a vote for

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>him to stay. If you didn't, it was a vote

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<v Speaker 1>for him to leave. One newspaper editorial said some residents

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.919
<v Speaker 1>might just take that deal. Maybe Francois Parrie would have

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<v Speaker 1>signed it. There was something about the threat that Willis

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<v Speaker 1>leaving was supposed to rattle the population that came off

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<v Speaker 1>as self aggrandizing, as if his absence would be a

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<v Speaker 1>massive blow to the state. Some even seemed to resent

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<v Speaker 1>Willis for having an opinion at all. To them, he

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<v Speaker 1>was an outsider who was positioning himself as an expert

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<v Speaker 1>on nuclear waste, not normally the purview of actors. Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis wasn't just deciding what was best for Haley. He

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<v Speaker 1>was deciding what was best for Idaho. Calls to the

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<v Speaker 1>governor's office came in, telling him to quote, go back

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<v Speaker 1>to California, but Willis didn't back down. He doubled own,

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<v Speaker 1>holding a press conference on the steps of the state

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<v Speaker 1>capitol to criticize the state for allowing the deal to

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<v Speaker 1>go through. We want zero nuclear waste in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Idaho, he said, and if Idaho couldn't provide that,

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<v Speaker 1>then Willis said they needed a new governor. He predicted

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<v Speaker 1>politicians backing the deal would be working at a seven

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<v Speaker 1>eleven in the next four years. Still, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people appreciated Willis's activism. It was a demonstration of his

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<v Speaker 1>commitment to Haley. Someone even came up with a slogan

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<v Speaker 1>stick with Bruce Willis for a better Idaho. He cared

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<v Speaker 1>about the well being of where he lived, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had the celebrity and money to support a just cause

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<v Speaker 1>when he saw one. But in the course of the drama,

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper columnist named Dan Popkey discovered that Willis, who

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<v Speaker 1>had rarely been outspoken about local politics in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>was not registered to vote. He published that fact, much

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<v Speaker 1>to Bruce's chagrin. It reinforced the idea of the classic

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood stereotype, a strongly opinionated actor who didn't even bother

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<v Speaker 1>to vote in the nine years he'd been living in Idaho,

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<v Speaker 1>and because Willis wasn't registered to vote, he wasn't legally

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<v Speaker 1>able to sign the petition he had been promoting. Willis

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>quickly ran to register. Fifty two thousand people signed the petition.

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<v Speaker 1>The people Willis, being the most vocal, had spoken and

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like victory was in sight, that no mutant

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<v Speaker 1>offspring would be arriving in Haley decades from now. But

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<v Speaker 1>the referendum was defeated by voters. The nuclear waste was

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<v Speaker 1>allowed in. Willis had failed to stop the asteroid, and

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<v Speaker 1>unlike the ending of Armageddon, where spoiler alert Willis sacrifices

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>his own life to save the planet, Willis remained in Haley.

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the threat to leave was insincere, a bit of showmanship,

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>or maybe Willis was too financially entrenched in Haley to

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<v Speaker 1>pull out, but either way, his bluff had been called.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, Willis was unavailable for comment, with his publicist

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>saying he was busy shooting a movie. Later, Willis insisted

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<v Speaker 1>he had been misquoted about leaving Idaho, that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a misunderstanding, that both the question and answer were all

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>tongue in cheek. He also called Dan Popkey an Popkey

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>said the quote was accurate. Bruce Willis reminded himself why

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 1>he hated talking to journalists. Even though Willis couldn't influence

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>state policy, he still had a territory of his own

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to survey Haley, where things could be shaped to his liking.

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>And while some in town thought Willis had too much power,

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>some felt like he was doing the right things with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The E. G. Willis Building, Francois Parie wasn't happy, but

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:20.439
<v Speaker 1>others were. Well. I started my business in June of

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually rented a space a retail's face about

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<v Speaker 1>square feet from the B. G. Willis Building, right next

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<v Speaker 1>to short E's, a little diner that they started. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Roebuck, a jeweler and owner of Christopher and Company,

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<v Speaker 1>a jewelry store that's still in Haley today. So we

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<v Speaker 1>had customers like Arnald and Maria and imperson to me,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it was a great venue to be in for him.

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>The E. G. Willis Building represented Willis's commitment to Haley,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>its ability to piggyback on his fame to raise the

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>profile of Willis's related businesses and the entire town of Hailey.

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>So what if Christopher's retail business was in an office building.

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Downtown Haley was still the place to be. Definitely, there

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>was a business they were They were investing in the

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>community by rebuilding old buildings and refurbishing the Liberty Theater

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and the Ment Building and the Willis Building, the E.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Willis Building. It brought people to town and got people

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>excited about going out, even people that were local here.

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, they want to go out and be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the community and part of the changes and

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>exciting new things that were happening. That also meant Christopher

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and other tenants of the E. G. Willis Building could

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>become inadvertent tour guides. There's people that are star struck,

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>really want to see him, get his autograph, and people

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>would come into my business and and say, have you

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.679
<v Speaker 1>seen him today? Or is have you seen any of

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the family, And you know, we we do. But we

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to exploit their experience here because they were

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to raise a family in a small town.

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>We didn't want to push people toward them that we're

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna pest around like paparazzi. And we had plenty of

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>people that were coming in town with microphones and cameras

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>that wanted to take a picture of their life here,

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>which is invasive for anyone that has any variety in

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the world. Haley was still in a Willis boom. The E. G.

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Willis Building and his other projects were having a domino effect.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Even things Willis didn't directly finance were improving. At least

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>sidewalks were widened to accommodate more foot traffic. New street

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>lamps and trees went up. Around the same time as

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the nuclear disaster, Willis made another major purchase, a ski mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Soldier Mountain near Fairfield, not far from Hailey.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Tom Blanchard, Okay Mountain. Yeah. And then I don't

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>know what um attracted him to buy that, but he

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>did buy it, and he put some improvements in. And

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that the difficulty was that if you come

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to Sun Valley, why would you go to Fairfield? Because

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Fairfield was more rural, more isolated, more provincial. I guess

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I might be a term more you know, Idaho rural um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then certainly Haley and there wasn't any attraction that would,

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the sense developed that mountain. When Willis

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>bought the mountain, people in Chamas County, where Fairfield is located,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>were ambivalent. Would it mean another deluge of Willis owned properties,

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Would Soldier Mountain become the Haileywood Hills. They didn't need

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to worry. Willis liked the mountains modesty. It was worlds

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>away from the ritzy Sun Valley ski area. Tickets were

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 1>cheap eighteen dollars. Unlike politics, it was just fun and

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>no one was going to dump any nuclear waste there.

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>See what you will about Bruce Willis opining on public policy,

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but at least he cared about the state and about

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the people in it. And Christmas, my first Christmas and

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe my second in the building and opening my store.

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I got to work one morning I found a little

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>note under the door. It was just a little Christmas

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>card like that, just a little note from to me

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that said Merry Christmas and dust wishes to you and

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>your family. And and that meant a lot to me

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>because here I've borrowed money from my relatives to start

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>my business and I'm doing it in their building, and

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>here I get a Christmas from to me, personal handwritten

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>note that was heartfelt. So that really meant a lot

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to me as far as my connection with the family.

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>France Swap Perrie had one experience, Christopher Roebuck had another.

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<v Speaker 1>Which side of the Bruce Willis coin you landed on

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in Haley was hard to predict. The following year, Willis

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>announced plans to join the Twin Falls Area Chamber of Commerce.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>It was ceremonial in nature. Willis didn't attend any meetings,

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>but it was his way of showing support for the

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>region's business community. He believed business owners should set examples.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>They should be citizens as well as businessmen, and businessmen

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain kind of power right. Trying to branch

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<v Speaker 1>out and get involved on the state level hadn't worked

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<v Speaker 1>out for Willis, but that didn't mean he couldn't affect

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<v Speaker 1>change in other ways. Willis still the de facto ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the gazillion dollar movie industry. After all, Willis had

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<v Speaker 1>been careful to keep his two worlds, Hollywood and Haley separated.

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<v Speaker 1>One was work and one was home. Then something came

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<v Speaker 1>along that would convince him to let those worlds collide.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis would make a movie just a few miles

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<v Speaker 1>from Haley, not a Diehard sequel, not another Army Get In,

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<v Speaker 1>but in many ways it would be the riskiest movie

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<v Speaker 1>of his career. Next time, on Haleywood. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>call from the casting director and I said, well, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you calling me? She said, well, Bruce wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have all of his friends audition. But then you come

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<v Speaker 1>upon a huge problem, and that is you have to

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<v Speaker 1>just about flying everybody. Right. Any big movie is going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring all their principles. Extras is different X as

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<v Speaker 1>you get anywhere, extras might as well be a lamp post.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just moving lamp posts, right, hey, walk here, walk there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a mistake because the kind of satirical,

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<v Speaker 1>farcical nature of the piece. I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it worked. It seems like it took a long

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<v Speaker 1>time to edit, and then it was screened one or

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<v Speaker 1>two places, and maybe that didn't go well. Haleywood is

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by Danis Schwartz. This show is written by Jake Rawson,

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<v Speaker 1>editing by Derrick Clements, Mary Do and me Josh Fisher.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound design and mixing by Jeremy Thal, Derrek Clemens, and

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<v Speaker 1>me Josh Fisher. Original music by Natasha Jacobs. Research and

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<v Speaker 1>fact checking by Jake Rawson, Austin Thompson, and Marissa Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Show logo by Lucy quentinia Our senior producer is Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Murdoch and our executive producer is Jason English. Special thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to the people of Hailey, Idaho and all those who've

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<v Speaker 1>shared their stories. Haileywood is a production of I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next Time, h