WEBVTT - Sadie Robertson 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:08.320 What is that? Sounded weird? I don't know how's that go? When? 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:13.440 How's everybody to win me? Okay? You know, I mean 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.400 l A, it's like eighty five degrees here, it's like May. 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.000 Everyone's like, we're moving out of California. We're going to 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.360 Texas where there's no state taxes, which dude, I get. 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.360 I used to live in Nashville. No state taxes, great, 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.760 but eighty five and January? Is that where my money 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.960 is going? Is that where where state taxes going? California? 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.199 They go to the thermostat outside because totally worth it. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.640 Played golf aesterday with my brother and his buddy, and 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.519 his buddy was hitting out of the sand trap out 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.360 of bunka and he hit me right in the titty, 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.080 right below the titty, but just in the ribs. And 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.040 then they proceeded to beat us in the game that 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.760 we were playing, and I owed him in twenty bucks, 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.240 so effectively I lost twenty dollars and I got smacked 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.040 the titty, So to lose lose A lot going on 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.120 in the world right now, right, nothing going on a politics, right, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:05.119 That's that's smooth cool? Yeah? What else? Oh? Bachelor news? Victoria? 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:11.520 She seems like a spark plug. Dug shake also Army 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:16.360 Hammer gonna stay away from that story because what okay, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.039 should we just do it? All right? Do it? This 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.320 is the Wells Cast with Wells Adams and I heart 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:28.240 radio podcast. You want this thing to the Wells Cast, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:32.959 like I should change the end of the show. Just 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.520 not creative whatsoever. Honestly, I didn't think it was gonna 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.840 last this long. Once Steph kind of bailed out, I 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.000 was like, all right, I give it like four weeks, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.480 like a solid month, and then people are gonna be like, 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.840 I don't care about this any But that is not 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.440 the case. So thanks for caring about it for this song. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.520 I'm excited about today's episode, I tell you that much. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.560 It's a little annoying to have people who are like 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.360 under the age that have done a lot more than 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.320 I don't know me in their career in a much 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.720 shorter period of time. It's like, okay, let me get 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.960 it found the brakes. But to be honest with you, uh, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.720 that's more of an indictment on my laziness and less 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:16.600 of one on their ambition, albeit an ambitious ambition. I'm kidding. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:20.399 This young lady has literally done it all, starting hit 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.360 reality TV show, Check competed on Dancing with Stars, Check 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.720 Rhode New York Times bestseller Check preached in front of 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.160 over seven hundred thousand viewers on the New Faithful App. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:35.520 Uh check literally done everything you know her from Duck Dynasty. 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.680 Cannot wait to sit down and talk to the one, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:43.359 the only, Sadie robertson this is one episode. Guys, you 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:57.519 are not gonna want to miss al right back in 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.840 the wells Gass very excited to have the star of 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:05.160 Duck Dynasty, Dancing with the Stars and the New Faithful 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.720 App Sadie Robinson on the show. How are you doing good? 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.120 Thanks for asking? How are you? You know? I'm making 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.440 it stay seven thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven of 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.480 the Quarantine. I haven't changed sweats in over a month. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.240 But we're gonna make it through. We're gonna make it. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.720 We're gonna make it. So. You've got a lot going 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.200 on right now, Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.080 Things have been a little crazy, but all good things, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:36.520 all good things. Let's start with personal life. Congratulations you're expecting, Yeah, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.200 thank you. We're so excited. I know it's like time's 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.000 going by really fast. All this sudden, Well that's probably 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.880 a good thing. You want these nine months to go 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.800 by as quickly as humanly possible, I would assume it is. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.680 I know, you just start getting bigger and bigger and bigger, 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.640 and you're like, okay, yeah, it's okay, this just starts 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.960 freezing by. But it's it's the best thing ever. It's 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.840 honestly magical, Like we're just starting to feel her start 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.000 moving and so it's really a fun a fun part 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.920 of life. You said her, So you know what you're having. Yes, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.680 it's a girl. Um, she's definitely gonna melt my husband's heart. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:14.720 So that's a sweet thing. We were so excited. Did 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:19.640 you have a crazy gender reveal party? We did? We did. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.280 We were those people, but it was so fun. We 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.200 did um paint guns and we did like pink paint, 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.280 but we didn't know what it was of course, Like 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.400 we had one of our friends do it all and 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.360 so you know, they started squirting the pink paint all 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.679 over us and we were just like shocked. So we 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.400 were covered in paint. It was a blast. I mean, obviously, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.200 you know, the only thing you care about is to 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:46.560 have a healthy child. But were you guys leaning one 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.800 way or the other on what gender you wanted. We 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.440 really weren't. We were totally like, whatever God has for us, 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.240 weird be so excited. We just want a healthy baby. Obviously. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.640 I just had a feeling it was a boy, though 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.840 I didn't like necessarily care one way that. I just 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.960 thought it was so when they started shooting pink paint, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.279 I was like, shook, it was so funny. Your poor 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.440 husband's in for it because I feel like, I know, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.360 you know, like I'm sure, yes, you're right, Like she'll 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.200 she'll melt his heart in the beginning, but then she's 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.479 gonna give him a freaking ulcer. Come age eighteen, trust me, 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.960 I know, and we have so to me. And then 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:25.960 we have a little dog, who is the most proof 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.320 for a little girl dog. And then we're now we're 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.920 having a girl, and he's like, whoa, what just happened? 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.440 So outnumber real quick talk about the Instagram post where 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.960 you paid homage to your parents. I thought that was 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.719 kind of cool. Yeah, we did. So my mom and 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.880 dad took a picture of their seventeen week old baby bump, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.640 you know, back in the day, and since then, my 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.839 sister did, my brother and his wife did and now 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.960 we did at seventeen weeks and so we posted it 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.920 and I already went crazy because it's just so cool 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.279 to see, you know, back in the day and now. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.200 And we tried to do a little vin to it. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.440 But now my mom has all of our pictures framed 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.640 at the house. So you had it for Christmas. She 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.240 was really excited. You nailed the like wardrobe, was that 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.440 like the original clothes from your parents? No, I just 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.760 found that online. But Christian was like, did not have 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.320 any Hawaiian start, so we did borrow from my dad. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.840 But yeah, we we nailed it. We nailed it. Tell 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.640 me about the Faithful App. So Faithful App is a 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.280 new app out. It's so cool, especially if you watch 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:35.800 sermons online because basically it's taking the faith based to 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.920 an app on a really high cool level. So um 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.840 tons of speakers pastors who are sharing motivational messages or 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.400 sermons on the app, and you can actually go watch 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.240 the sermons for free, or you can get a subscription 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.599 to get a whole lot more stuff. But it's so cool. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.160 So a lot of people say, you know, I want 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.120 to spend time with God, but I don't have time 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:56.920 or I don't know how, and this is like the 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.120 perfect way to do it because it's through an app. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.520 It's fun and it's easy, but it's also effective and 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:04.680 like truly a good time sim with the Lord. So 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.840 I have a personal original content coming on the app 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.800 as well, starting in February. Uh, and I'm loving it. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.480 It's so cool. I mean, it's a good idea, especially 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.720 these days when a lot of people are scared to 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.040 congregate and you know, in large groups at church, you know, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.679 this is a good way to still get your daily 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.960 dose to God, I suppose, and you know, not for 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.440 yourself in danger. You know, I was looking at your 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.000 Instagram and like I think your most recent post or yeah, 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.040 one of your most recent posts, you're up there like 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:40.120 straight up doing like a sermon. When did you decide 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.120 to start being in this public order? That seems like 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.520 that would be the most terrifying thing in the world. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.240 Trus me, It did actually terrifying me that I would 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.600 have never thought I would do what I'm doing now, 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.160 especially when I was young, Like I was the person 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.640 that if like, you know, we're at school and I 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.800 see that it's like a popcorn reading situation, and I 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:02.400 knew I was getting called on I would be like 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.200 having anxiety, so I never thought i'd be doing this. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.880 But actually, um, so, you know, my family had a 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.360 TV show, Doug Dynasty, and then I was on Dance 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.000 with the Stars, and so I kind of grew this 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.360 level of fame, if you will, and I just didn't 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.360 really know what to do with that. I was like, God, 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.760 this is this is cool, but it's like I don't 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.960 really know what to do with this. And look at, 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.280 you know, what other famous people do, and I didn't 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.680 know if that was necessarily what I was feeling called 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:31.560 to do or what I really wanted to do. And so, um, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.080 I actually ended up going to a church event kind 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.199 of in this time of like praying through some things 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.679 that I saw this woman get up there and she 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.480 just preached and like everything she said was so inspiring 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.640 and just the way she said it was so much confidence. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.120 And I remember looking at her and saying like, I 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.760 think I want to do that because I want to 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.880 say words that matter and I wanna influence people for 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.280 the better. And so I just kind of started to 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.040 sharing messages here and there, and now it's been about 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.000 four years of just pre shoeing it different different places, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.040 different spaces, and just saying people, just younger people being 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.880 encouraged and inspired, UM to dive into God's word and 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.199 all that God has for them. So I I love 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.320 what I get to do. And that was actually at 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.480 the Passion event which Christian and I'm a husband are 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.160 part of Passion and it's an event for eighteen to 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.640 twenty five year olds. And this year was huge because 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.240 it was online and we didn't know what was going 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.720 to happen, you know, people were gonna come or watch 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.640 or whatever. But we had over seven dred thousand people 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.800 attend online and to start the new year. So you know, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.480 that's when I look at it and I say, God, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.240 now now all of this has purpose whenever we get 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.199 to use it for the good. Um. And it's it's 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.479 really cool, amazing, but also it's got to be extremely 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.800 anxiety written. That's a lot of pressure to put on 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.200 yourself day in and day out. Yeah, it is crazy, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:50.959 it is. Well, I think you know how to come 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:52.880 to the point at one point in my life a 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.120 few years ago when I was like, you know what, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.680 I think you have pressure when you try to be 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.679 perfect or when you try to perform, and so I 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.320 always try not to. I just try to be authentic 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.520 and be who I am, where I'm at at all times. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.800 And you know what I found is that that's actually 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.600 a lot more relatable when I'm inspiring to people, because 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.920 when you give somebody a perfect image, they're like, what 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.440 do I do with this? This isn't it real, this 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.360 isn't me. And I think we do that a lot 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.880 on social media. But when you give them your authenticity 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.120 and who you are, people are like, Okay, that I 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.240 can be. I can be friends with that, I can 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.359 get behind that, I can learn from that because it's relatable. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.480 So once I took the pressure of myself to try 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.439 to perform or be perfect or be this unrealistic expectation 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.880 of who I could be, things got a lot less anxiety. Written. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.400 You've been in the spotlight in a lot of different avenues, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.240 right like starting out with duc Dynasty and being on 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.800 a reality show, and then kind of doing this competition 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.480 situation with Dancing with the Stars and now just getting 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.080 in front of well, I guess seven thousand people. What 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.720 do you like best of all those media outlets? What 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.640 have you had the most fun doing? Definitely share messages, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.480 preaching your motivating people. I think just because you know 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.840 there there are things in life that you get to 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:11.560 do that are that are a good thing for you 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.000 and that you have fun with. But then there are 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:14.720 other things like you get to do for other people. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.280 And that's something that I see as a thing for 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.080 other people. Like when you share a message and somebody 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.200 comes up to you and says, I've been dealing with 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.000 anxiety for four years, or I've been dealing with depression, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.600 or I have lost hope. But when you said that, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:31.040 it literally changed everything in my life, Like I started 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.080 going back to church, or I started waking up happy, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.160 or I started this And you see this like actual 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.840 shift in somebody's life because of something you spoken to them. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.680 And I know it's not me, I know it's God. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.679 But it's just an incredible thing to get to know 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.840 that your words and your life has has meaning. And 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.600 I think everybody has the opportunity that whether you have 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.560 seven hundred thousand people watching our seven People at Home. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.560 Boa talks about how our words hold the power of 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.000 life and death, so our words really matter. What we 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.960 say is either going to build somebody up or it's 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.120 going to tear some way down, and so for me, 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.120 there's nothing like what I get to do now. Even though, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.640 of course Dancing to the Stars was so cool and 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:11.640 it was so fun. It was a blast, um, but 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.000 I was way more scared doing that than what I'm 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:18.880 doing now. Who won your season? Alfonso Ribero, who is incredible. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.600 I love him, totally deserved to win. I came in second, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.360 and I told him from the beginning, I was like, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.120 I'm going to try to stay right behind you, and 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.240 I think I'll be good, and I did. The whole 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.760 way through. I was like, check, I don't think a 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.120 guy that has his own dance named after him should 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.440 be allowed to go on a show called Dancing with 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.120 the Stars. I know it was a little bit of 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.720 an unfair advantage. I think I won in my own heart, 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.160 just because I came in second to him who has 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.760 a dance saying after him. But it was really fun 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:55.200 going back to like kind of being vulnerable and people 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.679 really gravitating towards you being honest or just not being perfect. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.560 I know a couple of years back, you kind of 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.600 opened up about eating disorders and your religious person. Is 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.920 that something you have to prey on before you're able 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:13.720 to become really, really vulnerable with millions of people. Yeah, 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.360 for sure, for sure. You know, one of my mentors 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.680 told me one time to wait until your story becomes 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.720 a testimony to share it with people. And what she 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.800 meant by that is that, you know, you can share 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.000 your story with anybody. Everybody has a story. You can 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.840 get on and you can say anything these days, and 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.840 a lot of people do that. You know, I could 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.120 get on un tell you all my life problems, but 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.880 that doesn't really help me, or it really doesn't help 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.960 anybody else, because now I'm just dumping a lot of 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.040 my stuff that I really need to be talking to 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.800 the people about actual life about. But then there becomes 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.760 a point where you kind of read a testimony where 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.600 you've come through something and you have advice to give 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.160 because you live through it and it's hard and it's 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.120 real and it's messy, and it's not something you feel 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.560 proud to share about the same time you do because 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.880 you know other people feel the same way and need to. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.480 You're somebody to say, hey, I was there, but I 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.240 got through it, and you can't do. And so I 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.560 think when you get to the point in your life 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.840 where you've gone through something tough, and you know, this 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.839 could be a value to share with somebody else, to 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.840 say that you're seeing your known and you're gonna make 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.280 it um. I think it's a gift to the world 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.119 to be vulnerable in that way. But I think sometimes 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.160 we do share things too soon because we want comfort 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.400 from online, which you really shouldn't try to find your 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.000 comfort in people online because they don't know you and 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:32.880 they don't see age your heart well, you know, And 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.800 so I think that there's wisdom and waiting until it's 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.440 time to share something that is really personal to you. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:44.240 I'm always interested to talk to famous religious people about 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.720 social media because there are amazing things that come with 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.160 social media. All you had seven thousand people at that 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.840 event you were talking about earlier, and probably wouldn't have 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.080 been able to touch that many lives without that big 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.240 of a following. But the Juxtas position in that is 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.680 that there is like a lot of just evil and 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.840 hate and trolls that come with social media. How are 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.920 you able to balance it to Yeah, Well, the truth 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.080 is is it's a it's a constant battle. You know. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.000 At there are days where I'm so frustrated with social 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.160 media and I'm like, oh, it's so evil, too terrible. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.280 But then there every day that I that I know 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.960 that there is also opportunity for good. And you have 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.960 to know that social media is what we make it. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.200 So you know, you look at that and you're like, well, 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.480 that's what we've made it. Like we the people who 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:34.680 get to make our profile and choose what we post 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.520 and choose who we follow, have made it the way 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.120 that it is. So there's a huge responsibility to make 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.840 it better because it is up to us to make 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.040 it better. And you know, the Bible it talks about 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.200 Jesus calls us to be the light of the world, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.000 to be like a city on a hill whose light 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.200 gives off like light to the whole world. And so 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.160 I think about that in a place that is so 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.000 dark like that, literally is our calling to be a light, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.200 to be a good example, to bring joy in a 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.720 place that normally brings hate, to bring love on a 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.760 place that brings you know, hate, and just trolls and 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.920 all this stuff, to bring peace to people in their 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.600 day and whenever people are written with anxiety, and we 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.760 have an opportunity to post stuff like that, And so 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.200 there's a balance, you know, I've been thinking about this lately, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.240 just reading the Bible that you know, I think a 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.880 lot of people who become famous, you know, it's it's 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:26.080 hard to stay um in faith. There may be religion 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:27.720 or close to God. I feel like a lot of 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.120 people kind of fall. But when I've been reading, like 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.480 Jesus actually himself was famous, Like he had crowd to people, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.720 he had people following him, he had people hating on him, 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.920 He had all this stuff. And so when I don't 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.720 know how to handle something like you really can turn 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.120 to the Bible and see a perfect example of how 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.520 to handle a troll or how to handle hey, or 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.600 how to handle a massive crowd that you're like, do 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.480 I ever actually get a load time? Um? So yeah. 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.720 But one of the things Jesus did is he isolated 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.040 himself after he did huge miracles or after he had 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.360 a huge moment, or after he was with the crowd, 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.560 he went and he was alone. So like, for instance, 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.800 I just did that thing with some hundred thousand people, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.760 and I don't have social media on my phone right now. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.119 I deleted it, but I'd probably have it deleted for 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:14.159 the next two weeks or so, just because I need to. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.919 I need a break, you know, and I think sometimes 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.960 it's good to kind of have that heart check of 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.520 like you know, I do I actually need to be 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.200 looking at this right now. Um, and then take time 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.320 for yourself to go on so that you can remain 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.760 healthy and you know, truly be that light in the 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.440 place of darkness. Jesus came back to day. Do you 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.360 think he'd have an Instagram account? Goodness? You know, Jesus, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.040 he shocks me. I think I think he would because 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.199 here's the thing. He was always there, Like, he was 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.479 always there. He wasn't like, he wasn't weird, Like he 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.399 was there. He was in the crowd, he was talking 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:49.960 to people, and he was like, hey, let's be like 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.159 the world. He was dropping bombs. Like think about the 0:17:53.200 --> 0:18:02.320 captions Jesus would have. I think about he would have. Um, well, 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.679 I think this is a really cool thing. Uh, this 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.000 Faithful app. You can grab it at the App Store 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.240 or Google Play. It's just a really good idea, especially 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.680 right now when a lot of people just can't go 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.080 and congregate and praise Jesus and all that stuff. And 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.199 I think it's really cool that someone like you is 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:27.000 on this platform because let's be honest, it's really hard 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.480 for a lot of young people to listen to old 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.520 white dudes preach at them. I have a hard time 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.400 with it myself, and I'm much older than you are, 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.679 and so I think it's really cool to see someone 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.520 your age being able to touch you know, this gen x, 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.680 which I think probably needs a lot of guidance right now, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.760 just because there's just a lot of weirdness in the 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.240 world just in general. How old were you when you 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.919 wrote your New York Times best selling book? Guys? It 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.840 was a sophomore in high school. I was writing it 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.200 because I remember I was really strung, like what about 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.000 English papers that I was like, I'm writing a book, 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.320 it should count for something. But yeah, I was a 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.760 sophomore in high school. Uh. And then it came out 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.439 towards the end of junior year, which was whenever I 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:15.480 was on Dance with the Stars, So that was a 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.240 really perfect timing. And um, I think that I definitely 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.359 contributed to just the amount of people that I got 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.880 to read it and see it. So, yeah, before we 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.640 change gears over to kind of my portion of the show, 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.360 is there anything that you want to talk about that 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.840 we didn't touch on, or if you want to promote 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.120 that we that I didn't ask you about. I think, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.199 you know. The only thing is just I do have 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.199 a podcast. That is my most consistent thing that I do. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.880 You know, I do speak different places, but our podcast 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.720 it goes out every Wednesday. That's good. So if you 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.359 need to send good advice to catch it on the podcast? 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:50.840 Is it just you or do you have a co 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.760 host with you? So it's just me and then I 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.600 have somebody I interview each week. I love it. All right, well, 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.800 everyone go subscribe, download that and then also down to 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.200 the Faithful appre a quick break and when we come 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.320 back to anyone, tell you what what my show is about. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.920 It's an origin story. I like to find out where 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:08.640 people came from and how the hell they got here. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:13.080