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Speaker 1: Edith Steak is that woo woom? And Dan and Tye

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Speaker 1: welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty Hildebrant. That fine gentleman over there as

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Speaker 1: always you know him well, his name is Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the podcast. We're today we taking a

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Speaker 2: old now and so I need that sort of support. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we're going for a stroll down memory lane, and we're

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Speaker 1: And I enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who Michigan played here or there, it

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Speaker 1: To be a fan of this damn sport, yeah, means

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Speaker 1: So we're going to go through those lists. You've got

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Speaker 2: Yo, Yes, he is long long overdue, long overdue for

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Speaker 1: Move pat the two things I think of when I

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Speaker 1: Williams went on to a pretty productive NFL career, much

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Speaker 2: It's investing in a roth Ira versus investing in a Ferrari.

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Speaker 1: Right, You're just like, what's so fun about a roth Ira?

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Speaker 2: I could zoom around a canyon in this investment, and

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Speaker 2: so yeah, something changes and you grow up and so yeah,

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Speaker 2: I am comparing Mario Williams to a roth Ira, But

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Speaker 1: That's Mike Sandrastill, Michigan. One hundred and eighty two pounds exactly.

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Speaker 2: No, and he stepped in what will Johnson gets hurt

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Speaker 1: not that. Good they needed a quarterback to be sure

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Speaker 1: and the. Beer that Is Jordan. Travis that is his

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Speaker 1: college story At Florida. State because they didn't want him

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Speaker 1: one of those guys who was in on the ground

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Speaker 1: up happening With Florida state last, season but his plight

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Speaker 1: likes of which many cannot. Tell and SO i salute.

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Speaker 1: Him by the time he ended up walking out there

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Speaker 1: i'm gonna miss seeing him out. THERE i did like

433
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: a full one to eighty on HOW i felt About

434
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: Jordan travis as a college football. Player so a.

435
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: Couple things About Jordan, travis both specific to him and

436
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: specific To Florida. State so if you Remember Jordan travis

437
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: didn't that he didn't commit To Florida. State he Was,

438
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: Louisville that's. Right and he was like this mysterious hope

439
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: Because Florida state and quarterback was kind of a nightmare Early,

440
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 2: jimbo like you, know Early, norvelle Late, jimbo excuse, Me

441
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 2: and he was like this, weird like if we can

442
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: get him to, transfer if the academics or whatever work,

443
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: out like this might be an. Answer AND i, remember

444
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: like nobody's seen him play. Quarterback why is he immediately

445
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: seen as as the? Answer AND i guess it goes

446
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: back to, Like, okay you think about where Like Florida

447
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: state's offensive line was Late jimbo, right the disastrous aspect

448
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: Of Florida state's offense because of that. Line and then

449
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: you look at the Post jamis quarter back run At Florida.

450
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: State so It's Everett golson for a, Year, Right you're

451
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: going To DeAndre, francois who shows flashes but is dealing

452
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: with like significant. Injuries and then it's like this mix

453
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: Of Jordan, Travis James. Blackman you get An Alex hornybrook

454
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 2: thrown in, there you get A Mackenzie milton thrown in,

455
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: there who was kind of like recruited to Take Jordan

456
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: travis's place if memory, serves And Jordan travis deals with

457
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: the injury issues of his, own, obviously most notably the

458
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: one that ended His Florida state career at the end

459
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: of was It North alabama at the end of twenty twenty,

460
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 2: Three but What Jordan travis offered was a lot of

461
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: stability at a quarterback position That Florida state really hadn't,

462
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: seen you, know were there were stretches Of DeAndre, FRANCOIS i,

463
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: suppose but not on the level of Like Jordan travis's

464
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: ceiling And so what that represents With Florida, STATE i

465
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: think is, enormous culminating in you, know an excellent twenty twenty.

466
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: Three who we got? Next who we got? Next to?

467
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: Rylist i'm, going, oh, next my next guy That i'm

468
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: gonna miss, Here i'm gonna go to the. Top i'm

469
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 2: gonna go To Caleb. Williams and really It's i'm gonna

470
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: go To Kayla williams because we just don't See Caleb

471
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: williams all the time in college football and going into the,

472
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: draft and The Caleb williams story is kind of a weird.

473
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: One he's FROM.

474
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: Dc he and his dad were just locked in On Lincoln.

475
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: Riley they're, like we're Gonna i'm gonna play For Lincoln.

476
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Riley and it WAS i want to, Say Brock vandergriff

477
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: who was committed To oklahoma, initially and So oklahoma stopped

478
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 2: Recruiting Kleb, williams and he was just, LIKE i don't.

479
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: Care i'll walk on if they're not gonna offer me a.

480
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: Scholarship he's, Like i'm such a believer in my ability

481
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: and In Lincoln riley's. Ceiling given, obviously the quarterbacks who

482
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: came through there The heisman, guys the receivers developed That

483
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: i'm just gonna go To. Oklahoma Brock vandergriff ends up

484
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: going To. Georgia Caleb williams ends up Going, oklahoma stepping

485
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: in For Spencer rattler as a true, freshman winning The

486
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: texas game in a big comeback. Situation has some down.

487
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: MOMENTS i want to Say baylor And Iowa state were

488
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: probably not his Best, saturdays but shows incredible flash sticks

489
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: around for the bowl. Game After Lincoln riley, leaves helps

490
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: to Demolish oregon in the weird alamobole that was coached

491
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: By Bob Stoops and who is the interim For oregon

492
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: After Mario christabaul. Left it might have been the receivers.

493
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: Coach it was somebody, obviously and plays well in that,

494
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: game decides to transfer TO Usc. Obviously oklahoma fans are

495
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: not fans Of Caleb williams, anymore certainly not Of Lincoln

496
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: riley's goes TO, usc put some cartoonage, numbers makes incredible,

497
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: plays is now sort of derided by half of like

498
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: the industrial draft, complex the draft industrial. Complex that's probably

499
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: the better order there because he painted his nails or

500
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: he was emotional after a loss and like it's just all,

501
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: garbage doesn't. Matter you can Doubt Caleb williams without pointing

502
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: out that he's like super competitive and a little bit,

503
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Weird LIKE i would love to be considered super competitive

504
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: and a little bit weird and just made incredible plays

505
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: and heightened the, entertainment like he was an INCREDIBLE tv.

506
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Show like say what you will about whatever deficiencies you

507
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: perceive him to, have Like Caleb williams was a starring

508
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: actor on an ENTERTAINING tv, show partially because he had

509
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: to score fifty points a game almost solo because of

510
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 2: THE usc. Defense but, LIKE i don't, know you can't

511
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: take a player Like Caleb williams for, granted you just. Can't,

512
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: well So i'm gonna Miss i'm gonna miss the pop

513
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 2: and the juice, There, ty that's ALL i.

514
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: THINK i agree with, You and go back listen to

515
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: our episode that we did With Nate tice WHEN i

516
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 1: asked him the question about do we Know Caleb williams

517
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: is definitely going to be better Than Justin. Fields Justin

518
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: fields played some hero. Ball that's been the knock On Caleb.

519
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: Williams is this one of those things where they're essentially

520
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: draft in like kind of the same guy and yours

521
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: can be. Entertaining, well heroes are definitely. Entertaining But, NATE

522
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: i think did a really good job explaining why it's

523
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: not exactly apples to apples and What Caleb williams was

524
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: up against after transferring to usc with some of the

525
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: deficiencies on that. ROSTER i don't know if you saw

526
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: the clip that's been making the rounds out on social

527
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: media right, now Where Cale williams went on The pivot

528
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: Podcast Ryan Clark Ryan clark and got a question to

529
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: the degree, of you, know give us a time that you,

530
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: were you, know really upset OR i forget the exact,

531
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: setup but in, Essence Cale williams talked in detail about

532
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: how he was essentially crushed when he did not win

533
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: the job Over Spencer. Ratler, yeah when he first came To,

534
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: oklahoma which nobody truly assumed he. Would nobody assumed he,

535
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: would but, yeah he felt in spring ball that he

536
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: had beaten Out Spencer. Ratler now at the, time you

537
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: know the deal With Spencer. Ratler spencer probably wasn't. Wrong, yeah,

538
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: yeah probably was, wrong But Spencer ratler Was he came

539
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: into college and for a good chunk of his time in.

540
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: College still, NOW i was probably going to be drafted

541
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: by THE, nfl but it was seen as a situation

542
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: Where Spencer ratler is going to be drafted very highly

543
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: into the. League he needs to get the. Start we

544
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: need to see what he can. Do we know how

545
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: things shook out, There we know That Cale williams eventually supplanted,

546
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: him and the rest is sort of. History But Kyle

547
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: williams has always had this seemingly ridiculous belief in his own.

548
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: Abilities AND i guess IF i am drafting a, quarterback

549
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy THAT i want on my.

550
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: Team somebody who is very, confident somebody who wants the

551
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: ball in his hands in a key. SITUATION i don't

552
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: mind the fact that he got emotional and losses or

553
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: anything like. That. GOOD i want a guy who. CARES

554
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: i think that's at least not that he's doing it on,

555
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: purpose but that's one way we know that he cares

556
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: and isn't exactly out there dogging it despite the fact

557
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: that he maybe didn't have the supporting cast that he

558
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: should have at a school like A.

559
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: Usc watch the end OF i think it was this

560
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: Year's arizona game that goes to overtime where he goes

561
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: into a mode where he essentially just, says, Fine i'll

562
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: do it myself right where he's running in touchdowns and

563
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: two point conversions and he's just he's single handedly WILLING

564
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: usc against what was probably a Better arizona team who

565
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: made some mistakes and sure going away from what was

566
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: working in that game and just decided to win the game. Himself,

567
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: Now arizona was not a great team this. Year they're

568
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: a good, Team but his ability to shoulder that kind

569
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: of load is not something we see every, year every draft,

570
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: class every, Generation like there are guys that come, around

571
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: whether It's Lamar, jackson whether It's Marcus, mariota where It's Johnny,

572
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: manziel who have like this different ability to have that

573
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: confidence that like there's nobody on the field that's truly

574
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: gonna stop. Me maybe there's four guys on the field

575
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: who will stop, me but there's no one safety who's

576
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: gonna meet me, midfield who's gonna get the best of.

577
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: ME i just think it's fine to. Appreciate it's fun to.

578
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Appreciate it's fun to appreciate and just remember.

579
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: This if you're going to watch the, draft you're gonna

580
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: hear three hundred some odd, names all of which are

581
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: really good. Athletes that's the only reason they're going to

582
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: be drafted at. All, no not everybody's. Interesting there is a,

583
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: difference and you can't always quantify why that. Is Certainly

584
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Cale williams is cream of the. Crop he's going to

585
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: be the first overall. Pick But Cale williams has been

586
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: nothing of not interesting in THIS tv show that we

587
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: call college football over the last three. Years and, yeah

588
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: for that, Reason i'll miss him, too.

589
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: And my family and friends are going to root for.

590
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: Him here in The Greater.

591
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Chicago you get to see him up close and. Personal

592
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: let me give a shout out to my, guy Will

593
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: Shipley Dan, oh, Okay Will. Shipley one of my biggest

594
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: regrets over the last couple of years is that we

595
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: never did a Will shipley themed two's. Cruise, yeah it

596
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: was right there for. Us in the name it says

597
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: Ship now thanks the. Explanation never took that. OPPORTUNITY i

598
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: have quietly Been lieutenant commander on THE uss Will. Shipley,

599
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: YEAH i celebrate the guy's entire. CATALOG i was convinced

600
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: from the moment he was a, recruit from the moment

601
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: he came into my consciousness that he was going to

602
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: be the Next christian. McCaffrey, yeah didn't really turn into

603
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: the Next christian, McCaffrey BUT i think still has a

604
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: ton of upside as a Pro, again Ty Hilton branson

605
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: AN nflgm.

606
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: Even like the next traves etn WHICH i don't think he.

607
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Was, yeah, no BUT i think he came Into clemson

608
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: at a really interesting. Time i'm gonna stop short of

609
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: saying That clemson's on any kind of down, swing But

610
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: clemson went on a run there where they were sort of,

611
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: unstoppable and he he happened upon The clemson roster after. That,

612
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: yeah still very good, team just a different. Version, yeah

613
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: different kind of, line different kind of, quarterback different kind of. Offense.

614
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think because of that he did not

615
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: more to the point of supporting. CASTS i don't know

616
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: if he quite had what some of his predecessors had around.

617
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Him this is not to Say Will shipley would have

618
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: been better in that. Circumstance we obviously can't play that.

619
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Game we don't. Know, Oh i'll play the.

620
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: Game the players around him were not as good as

621
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: the players that came, before and he would have been

622
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: better playing behind the mid teens lines next To Deshaun.

623
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Watson, yes for all of those, REASONS i still have

624
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: a ton of hope for what Will shipley can do

625
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: at the next. Level And i'm going to be rooted

626
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: like hell for him BECAUSE i feel like he was

627
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: asked to carry a load that was not. Fair it

628
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: was an offense that felt, disorganized and, YEAH i guess

629
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: didn't have the supporting cast around him that some of

630
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: his predecessors. Did AND i want to see what he

631
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: can do if put in a good situation in THE,

632
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: nfl BECAUSE i think he's a well rounded. Back he's

633
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: a bigger. Guy he can obviously. Run he blazed at the.

634
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: Combine we know he can catch passes out of the.

635
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: Backfield he does a lot, well AND i just want

636
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: to see if we can if we can find a

637
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: situation for him where somebody fully unlocks his potential Because i'm.

638
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: Waiting i've been waiting for the last couple of, Years

639
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: so you're really gonna watch him in THE. Nfl he's

640
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: one of these guys Where i'm Just i'm gonna draft

641
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: him on every fantasy, team and it's gonna be Without

642
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: ryan or. Reason it might be a terrible. Fit BUT

643
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: i know college, players AND i want college players THAT

644
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: i like on my, teams and So Will shipley's going

645
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: to be one of those.

646
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: Guys For he's sort of like when people DISCUSS nba

647
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 2: players playing in the wrong, era like what Would Alan

648
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: iverson do in the modern? Era like, that you know

649
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: the three AND d guys who aren't appreciated in the

650
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: nineties or something that Will shipley his. Game, obviously he

651
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: would have been successful for any team he played. With

652
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: he's very talented running. Back But i'm gonna stick with that,

653
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: theme And i'm gonna Say i'm gonna miss Brayln. Allen

654
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: he just felt like he Hit wiscon five years too,

655
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: late right, That like he Hit wisconsin as the team

656
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: is on a downturn With Paul christ and shows incredible

657
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: flash as a. FRESHMAN i mean it looks like he's

658
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: thirty as like a seventeen year old, freshman right. Right

659
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: he Has, yeah he enrolled. Early he has CARTOON i

660
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: believe you enrolled. EARLY i may be, wrong but he

661
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: puts up like, cartoonish like he's squatting thirty five hundred, pounds,

662
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: like you, know something like, that and it just looks

663
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: like he's the Next wisconsin. Dude, right he's the next

664
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: take your. Pick and it's Following Melvin, gordon who was

665
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: sensational obviously for The badgers and comes. IN i believe

666
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: he's local To wisconsin and so it's already a good story.

667
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: There and whether it's, injuries whether it's just, inconsistencies whether

668
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 2: it's the offensive line taking a step, back whether it's

669
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: a whole new system With Luke fickle And Phil longo

670
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: that you go in optimistically saying, like, oh they're going

671
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: to be spread out more so he's going to have

672
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: more obvious running. Lanes it never fully felt like a

673
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: fit and health played a part in.

674
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: That BUT i don't.

675
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: Know man the best Of Braylen allen with you know,

676
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: whatever he's six two two thirty, five we're just like

677
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: man when he has a head of, steam he's just

678
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: as dangerous as anybody in this.

679
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Sport and you.

680
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Know sad it didn't work out for. Him but when

681
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: watching The best Of Braylen, ALLEN i WAS i was

682
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: a very happy.

683
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: Fan WHAT i think is interesting About Braylen. Allen, yeah

684
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: this past. Season he played in A Phil longo. System this, Season, y.

685
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: Your quarterback's getting, hurt so it's you, Know Tanner mordecai

686
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: goes down relatively. Early the offense never looks the. Same

687
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: they don't have playmakers at. Receiver it's just.

688
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Different it was totally. Different he had something like fifty

689
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: fewer carries this season as compared to twenty twenty, two

690
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: but had more. Touchdowns still was crazy productive as a

691
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: guy who can get in the end. Zone and Ty

692
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Hilton brandton on AN nflgm, bacessarily MAYBE i could not a,

693
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: sponsor could be not A gm open to. It maybe

694
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: not the best fantasy player. Either, however somebody who can

695
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: punch the ball in from the one yard line is

696
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: always going to have a place on my team and

697
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: a place in my. Heart, yeah SO i agree with.

698
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: YOU i remember when he came. OUT i just remember

699
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: when we started hearing rumblings About Braylen allen and him

700
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: going To wisconsin and fitting into that. System you're, RIGHT i,

701
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: mean the timeline was a little bit off for, him

702
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: and it maybe didn't work out as much as we,

703
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: hoped but just a absolute bull of a.

704
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: Kid to, me it's not even just the like punch

705
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: it in from the one yard. Line it's, Like, okay

706
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: we're up five with three point fifty seven, Left we're

707
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: starting to drive at our own twenty and we are

708
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: just going to wear down this defense and we are

709
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: going to make them wish they were. Elsewhere AND i you,

710
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Know i'm gonna miss addrict. Estimate we did. VIDEO i

711
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: did a video About Odric, estimate and it's very much

712
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: the same. Thing you, know built, big you, know six

713
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: foot two, thirty and, yes he's an absolute red zone

714
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: and goal line. Threat but we've all watched games in,

715
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: which like it's third and, three we know they're going

716
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: to run some sort of counter or something to this giant,

717
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: dude and there's very little this defensive line and this

718
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: front seven can do about it worn down after three

719
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: and a half. Quarters and so when you have Object,

720
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: estimate when you Have Braylen, allen when you have any

721
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: of those, guys it affords you something where, like, yeah

722
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 2: your offensive line might only be okay and they're worn,

723
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: down but this guy is gonna fall forward for yet

724
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: another first, down and that is just it's it's. Backbreaking

725
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: you know who you don't fall forward. Against who's That Byron? Murphy,

726
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: yeah From, Texas. Texas Byron murphy is listed at six,

727
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: one three oh. Eight, Hm Byron murphy is going to get.

728
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: Drafted Byron murphy is a bowling ball with eyes.

729
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: That is an incredible heightweight split, there AND i think

730
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: A Byron, MURPHY i mean they are obvious To.

731
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: Andandre he's a football acre, right just to cre acreage

732
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: with him is.

733
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: ROBUST i could sit here and list guys off of

734
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: The texas, defense but bear in mind that, again context

735
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: in this sense is important because what was the knock

736
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: On Texas for a good long while Before sark got.

737
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: There they were trying to build this, defense but the defense.

738
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: Didn't it did not have the required level of toughness

739
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: to be truly a difference making.

740
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Unit, well don't Disrespect, punaford but, elsewhere, yes.

741
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: Remember it was they don't, tackle they're not, tough they're

742
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: giving up on plays like they're missing, assignments things of that. Nature.

743
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Right this is not to say That Byron murphy was

744
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: the lynchpin in this whole, operation But Byron murphy to

745
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: me represents one of those guys who was down in

746
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: the trenches doing the dirty, work helping turn The texas

747
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: defense into what it, became a playoff the. Defense, yeah

748
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: that to me is something THAT i will miss a

749
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: lot of these, linemen these interior, linemen don't get the

750
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: love that they. Deserve we hear about them when we

751
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: talk ABOUT nfl draft. Prospects we certainly hear about them

752
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: when our teams have to try and run against. Them

753
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: but oftentimes it's the. Quarterbacks oftentimes it's the edge, rushers

754
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: even the offensive lineman who get a lot of the.

755
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: Love But Biro, murphy for, me is one of those,

756
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: guys if only because of his incredible bowling ball esque. Dimensions,

757
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: yeah is one of those guys That i'm excited to

758
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: see what he does at the next. Level And i'm

759
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: gonna miss from Certainly texas is going to miss them

760
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: on their defensive.

761
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: Front, yeah And texas in this, moment by the, way

762
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: and we haven't really talked, about like who's replacing these,

763
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Guys Like michigan's in good shape secondary, wise IT'S i

764
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Think burrows Or Mick burrows excuse, Me, yeah And Notre

765
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: dame seems to be good at running.

766
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Back who is It Jeremiah, Love Jeremiah love my. Guy

767
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: but he's not he's a big like. Estimate he's not

768
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: big like. Estimate no one's.

769
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: BIG i don't know If Notre dame has like a

770
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: follow up. Act it's Chess mulous with who was not

771
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: built Like Braylan ALLEN Usc we'll see It's Miller. Moss

772
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: Miller moss is Not Caleb. Williams But texas is now

773
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: without both of these. Guys By murphy and Dev Andre,

774
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: sweat they're kind of like fast and furious trying to

775
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: find bodies they just. THOUGHT i think In Arizona, Transfer

776
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: georgia To Arizona, transfer they were looking At jatoya FROM USC,

777
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: ucla and so it's easy to say, like, oh this

778
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: guy was, Incredible like there aren't many this.

779
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: Guys well that's that's.

780
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: Why that's the, thing right going back what two three

781
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: years to Like Jordan davis At, georgia like he was,

782
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: bigger he was like three sixty or something like. That we're,

783
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: like when you can find somebody that big and who

784
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: can move and is, Effective texas is going to deeply

785
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: Miss Bira.

786
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: Murphy, yeah you. Can you can measure the impact that

787
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: a player had on the program m by what happens

788
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: when he? Leaves and these are not guys that just

789
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: grow on.

790
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: Trees, Yeah SARK i think was quoted this spring it's

791
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: like we cannot have enough big defensive. Lineman, no and

792
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: they've Been they've been a huge part.

793
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Of that ongoing project on defense to Make texas into

794
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: a playoff caliber. Team So i'm gonna Miss Biron. Murphy

795
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: i'm gonna miss watching him, play and Certainly texas is as.

796
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Well CAN i rattle off a few of the defenders

797
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: THAT i put on my list? Here?

798
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Please And Biron, murphy by the, way nearly Tackled Michael

799
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: pennix in the semis of the, Playoff so.

800
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: That's right there you. Go i've Got Jared verse. Here good.

801
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: Call Jared. VERS i think is just a super interesting

802
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: story transferred down To Florida. State was It?

803
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 2: Albany he came from, well, yeah up and leveled down, geographically, yes, Correct. Albany,

804
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: yeah The Great, danes The Great.

805
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: Danes Jared verse came To Florida state hoping to become

806
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: a little bit more, prominent hoping to become a top,

807
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: ten top whatever CALIBER nfl. PICK i think he has done.

808
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: That he was an absolute force to be reckoned with

809
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: for The Florida state, seminoles past seas and really his

810
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: two seasons In. Tallahassee So i'm gonna miss him out.

811
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: There i'm going to miss talking about. Him he just

812
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: seems like he was always on a mission to become

813
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: this star defensive. Lineman and to see him kind of

814
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: do that before our very eyes As Florida state was

815
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: also trending up was a cool story much much Like

816
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Jordan travis, right he was part of that. Project so

817
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: that was cool to see a lot of no love from,

818
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: you by the, WAY i, KNOW i, know, yeah marist

819
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: lea foul From Notre. Dame couldn't say his name AS

820
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: i wont to do with big, Hair, yes big, hair

821
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: AS i want to do with any. Name that just

822
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: deviates a bit from the. Norm but AFTER i learned,

823
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: it and AFTER i learned and certainly watched his. Deal

824
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: he is a downhill linebacker six' to two about two,

825
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: thirty ish give. Or take can play pretty, much anywhere

826
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: can play four, to three can play three four wherever they.

827
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: PUT him i think he's going to be successful at the,

828
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: next level and there is something special about watching a downhill,

829
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: style linebacker a guy that is just like a heat,

830
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: seeking missile. A, THUMPER yeah i love. THOSE guys i.

831
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: Love that how does he compare to Like Recent notre

832
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: dame linebackers in terms of both his production and just

833
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: Your Like, drew tranquil like all those Guys That notre

834
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: dames had a. Nice run going back To what Jalen

835
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: Smith man, titea like does.

836
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: He hold a? SIMILAR place i know he was. There,

837
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: FOREVER yeah i mean He's been he's been there. A

838
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: while I mean i think he was sort of a

839
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: late bloomer in. That sense. YOU know i like to

840
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: think he's got a little bit more pro upside than

841
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: Somebody Like Drew. Trank Will But Drew Drew trank will

842
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Want A super bowl ring With The kansa. Citate chief

843
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: he's made, some money he's been in the league for.

844
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: A while, BUT this i think this guy's got a

845
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: lot more athleticism in, his game, and so at least to,

846
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: That End i'm i'm more excited about what the future

847
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: could hold for him at the next level any other.

848
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: Defensive Players kool. Aid, mckinstrey yeah here is the Duality

849
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: Of kool. Aid McKinstry kool aid mckinstrey's name Is. Kool

850
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: aid It's. Kool aid it's a good. Starting, point yeah

851
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: it's a good. Starting point it's a. Fun name it's a.

852
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: PLAYFUL name i think for a lot, of folks you

853
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: see somebody named, kool aid and maybe that's where, you

854
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: stop maybe where you turn off your. Critical thinking but

855
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: here is the real deal with. This guy the real

856
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: deal With kool aid McKinstry is that he is smart as. Freakin'

857
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: hell he is a. Smart defender that funny name masks

858
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: the fact that you can stick him into almost any

859
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: kind of system and he's going to figure. It out

860
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: that Was why saban trusted him in the manner that.

861
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: He did that was obviously how he Got to alabama

862
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: in the. First place he is a dude who sees.

863
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: The field he's not overwhelming from an, athletic standpoint but

864
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: in his Time, at alabama he was the number that

865
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: people they wanted to know Where kool aid mcinstry was

866
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: because he could figure out what an offense. WAS doing

867
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: i miss guys, like that even if they're not playing for,

868
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: my team even if they are just guys that YOU

869
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: and i talk about when we do our episodes week

870
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: in and. Week out but the guys who are just

871
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: sort of field generals and they're smart and they. See

872
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: it they have the bit everybody. Lined. Up yep they

873
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: know what. They're doing it doesn't matter how many curveballs

874
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: you throw, at them they figure. It out i'm always

875
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: going to miss a guy Named, Kool aid but on

876
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: top of the fact that he's got the, funny name

877
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: the fact that he's also got that level OF football

878
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: iq is something to ME that I just i, don't

879
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: know you can't replace that. Very EASILY and i also

880
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: think of it from, this standpoint a lot of these

881
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: players that are gonna Be leaving bamba the next couple

882
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: of years going INTO, the nfl it's sort Of like

883
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: saban's parting gift. To football you get to see at

884
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the next Level what saban saw in them on the.

885
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: College level and So, kool aid, FOR me i think

886
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: also falls into that category of just somebody who's really

887
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: smart knows the game had a huge Impact on Alabama's

888
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: secondary and we'll. Be missed will be Missed by Kaitlin

889
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: de born now, For sure i'll stick with. That theme

890
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: cooper de, gene here it, is here. IT is.

891
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: I don't know that he is the heady player that.

892
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: MCKINSTRE is i don't know. Either WAY all i know is,

893
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: NonStop plays whether it's as a, punt returner playing, the nickel,

894
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: playing corner, playing safeties all over.

895
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: The place.

896
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: Comes in local. Hero act almost Went To South, DAKOTA

897
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: state i believe to, play quarterback was a great like

898
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: all state basketball Player. In iowa has a ridiculous vertical

899
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: and SCORED and i did a video. About THIS scored

900
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: i think more touchdowns in twenty, twenty two both in

901
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: terms of, pick SIXES and i believe also if you include,

902
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: punt returns but even just in, pick sixes then All

903
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: of iowa's receivers combined in twenty. Twenty, two yeah which

904
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: is just kind of a snarky thing to Say about.

905
00:47:58,640 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Iowa's offen.

906
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: People didn't Know that big ten quarterbacks, said no you

907
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 2: don't throw in the Direction of Cooper dejen yet in twenty,

908
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: twenty two they kind of. Learned that by twenty, twenty

909
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: three he still made a ton of plays and was,

910
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: just ridiculous and you. Know it unfortunately gets hurt at

911
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty three and has the weird

912
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: Moment against minnesota where does he call a?

913
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: Fair catch does?

914
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: He not he has this weird, arm thing and that

915
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: becomes the lasting image, OF him i think in terms

916
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: of what he Did for iowa and in terms of

917
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: one specific play that got a lot, of notoriety but.

918
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: Just INCREDIBLE and i imagine he's going to be drafted

919
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: in or around the first round and he will be

920
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: all OVER an nfl field wherever he ends. Up playing

921
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: he was just like he was. Too good he was.

922
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: Too good even surprised they didn't try him on Offense.

923
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: At, iowa well not.

924
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: Fully surprised it was the brain trust Of the, farrens,

925
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: family say are you really. That surprised i'm surprised they

926
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: didn't get to such a desperate place that they didn't

927
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: directly snap it to. Him often, but alas he was

928
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: Incredible for iowa and those kinds of players don't come.

929
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 2: Around often he was the top response to our social

930
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: media post when we, asked, people sure we are you

931
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: a miss a Lot of cooper de jeans? Out, there

932
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: yeah it's another one Of those like, in college it's

933
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: not that coaches can be more creative it's that there's

934
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: just more room to, be creative and you don't HAVE an.

935
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Nfl roster so if you HAVE an nfl player and

936
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: he's also willing to take snaps in, the backfield Like

937
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: sie Vaki, of utah here we go. Another transition you

938
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: just don't get that IN the nfl in the. Same

939
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: way and so we can appreciate the college game. For

940
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: It and utah is just decimated by injuries in twenty.

941
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: Twenty three they're desperate. For yardage they're Going Between nate

942
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: Johnson and Bryce and barnes. At quarterback their running backs

943
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: are beat up all over. The Place michael bernard all

944
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: these Guys To, quentin jackson who's Now, at arkansas like

945
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: they're just it's just walk. And wounded and so, they're,

946
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: like well we've got this guy who's pretty incredible as,

947
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: an athlete and they Start giving Soon a vaki snaps in,

948
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: the backfield both. Direct snaps he's at, running back he's

949
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: catching balls out of.

950
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: The backfield.

951
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: HIS all i think during the season the middle of,

952
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: the year whether IT'S usc cal or there was a

953
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: stretch where he, Was like, i'm sorry did he just

954
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: have three hundred and eighteen all. Purpose, yards, yes okay

955
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: and he's the. Starting, safety okay.

956
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: Got it and he was a really.

957
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: Good safety he'll continue to play safety IN the. Nfl

958
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: EXCLUSIVELY but i love the both the creativity on the

959
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: level of the coaching staff and just his willingness and

960
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: his enthusiasm to just destroy people on offense.

961
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: As well It's GREAT sivaki A, great namevaki. Great name

962
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: we do. MISS names i do think that plays, into

963
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: it if only a. Little bit, kool aid mckinstre maris.

964
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Lea foul i'm a sucker for a, good. Name definitely

965
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: THAT'S why i Include A naias smith on my list. As.

966
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: WELL weapon, i yeah it's just, a weapon. You know

967
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: he speaking of guys who, are smart who know to.

968
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Find SPACE AN I a smith an incredibly productive Receiver.

969
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: FOR texas A and m of course dealt. With injuries

970
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: but one of these GUYS who i think at the

971
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: next level projectsas an obvious SLOT receiver NFL off nfl

972
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: defense has excuse me or playing a lot of ZONE

973
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: AND I a smith knows how to find open open space,

974
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: and ZONE and i think he's going to be super

975
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: productive at the. Next level another one of those Guys

976
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: that i'm just almost irrationally going to include as part

977
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: of every fantasy ROSTER that i OWN because i know

978
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: what he Did AT texas A. AND m i think

979
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: he can be crazy productive IN, the nfl provided he can.

980
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: STAY healthy i think, you're right and it's one Of

981
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: those he is one of. Those players and we talked

982
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: about This With, nate tice like if he ends up

983
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: at the, right.

984
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: Spot yeah.

985
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: He's great he's going to be a highlight reel absolutely

986
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: what happens, for him and especially he's one of those,

987
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: players like well that's went to the wrong school at

988
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: the wrong time in terms of like running In a

989
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: jimbo or, playing receiver also lining up.

990
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: A running back In A jimbo. Fisher offense. Not, idea

991
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: okay the last guy on, My, list yeah and then

992
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: you can close us. Out please I've Got ricky piersall

993
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: on my list. AS well i. LIKE that i ask You.

994
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: To florida i'm a sucker for. Circus, Catches yeah i'm

995
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: a sucker for. Circus catches never mind how the. GUY projects,

996
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean i think he projects well at the, next

997
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: level But crazy athletic was kind of the go to

998
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: guy In a florida passing offense that left a lot to.

999
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: Be Desired But, ricky piersall you had to Know Where ricky.

1000
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: Pearsall was he stood out in not all that, productive

1001
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: offense but. He was he was the weapon and it

1002
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: was it was. Pretty OBVIOUS can i move to my

1003
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 2: to close out with, some, offense?

1004
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: Please Okay.

1005
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: Jade daniels daniels was just Won The. Heisman trophy this is.

1006
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: Not me you know where we're, selecting obviously wait to select.

1007
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: This sleeper dan didn't DIDN'T claim i would select. A

1008
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: Sleeper jane daniels is like his story is, Weird though

1009
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: like that's that's what sort of gets lost where he's, just,

1010
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: like well of course. He's succeeded look at, these receivers

1011
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: like he needed to score a ton of points because

1012
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: the defense was, so bad and like he's got two

1013
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: first round Receivers and milak neighbors And What brian thomas

1014
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: is the? Second one like of course this was. Not

1015
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: it this was not a foregone conclusion. At all even

1016
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: like when he Transferred, TO lsu I think i'll just

1017
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: raise my hand be like why Why does Elsie Want

1018
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: Jane daniels like he threw too many INTERCEPTIONS at asu,

1019
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 2: at times like he went an up and down TIME.

1020
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 2: At ASU and i remember specifically it didn't seem like

1021
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: he was terribly loved in the. Locker room wasn't it

1022
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: that like social media video and Like an instagram VIDEO

1023
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 2: of asu players laughing and like offering to pack his.

1024
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: Locker, FOR yeah i, Remember THAT and i just.

1025
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: Remember thinking to myself again raising my hand as a,

1026
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: dumb person Like Where's jane daniels? Gonna go and GOES

1027
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: to lsu and battles for. The job this was, not,

1028
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: like oh you are the new starting has to win

1029
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: the job because And It's brian kelly bringing him in

1030
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: and its First Year. Brian Kelly jade Daniels beats alabama

1031
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: in his, first year they WIN The sec west in his,

1032
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: first year shows an incredible amount, of poise is beat up,

1033
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: at times and is even beat up in WHAT the

1034
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: sec championship Game against Georgia and garrettnusmyer comes in and

1035
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: throws a bunch and we even did a show with,

1036
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: oh GOD the, lsu, Guy Yeah Jordi, jordy yes WHERE

1037
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 2: like i felt it was reasonable, to say like if

1038
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: This Is jadan, Daniels job but is there a slight

1039
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: chance it isn't With how garrettnusmeyer looked in the bowl

1040
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: game and he was pretty sure It Was jaydan. Daniel's

1041
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: Job And jane daniels Wins. The HEISMAN so i love

1042
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: that you even go Back To jadan daniels as. A recruit

1043
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: he's a highly regarded recruit From, southern california but nobody

1044
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: On The west coast sort of finds a spot. For

1045
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: HIM and i think he really wanted to GO. To

1046
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: ucla this IS something i had heard and fact check

1047
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: Me if, I'm wrong UCLA's quarterback coach at. THE time

1048
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: I Believe Dana Bible chip kelly's quarterback coach in. Twenty

1049
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: nineteen so this is the MIDDLE of, DTR says i don't.

1050
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 2: SEE it i don't see It With jayden daniels ends

1051
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: up GOING To Asu herm edwards and it's like a

1052
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: REALLY fascinating asu team there in the early twenty twenties

1053
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: because It's Like johnny Wilson And ricky pierce sall like

1054
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: all These guys chip, train them like all these guys

1055
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: that went on.

1056
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: To succeed there was talent on.

1057
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 2: That, team, yeah, yeah yeah both sides of the ball

1058
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: GOES to lsu looks very good and promising in year

1059
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 2: one and then obviously is a. World Beater heisman trophy

1060
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: will probably be selected in the. Top, five like it's

1061
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: just been kind of a crazy whirlwind of a five

1062
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: year Stretch For.

1063
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: Jayden daniels do you remember my line on that quarterback

1064
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: Derby When brian kelly first GOT, Tel, usu yeah that

1065
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: he was just gonna. Keep. JUGGLING yeah i was CONVINCED

1066
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: that bka did not have it in him to Deal

1067
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: with they.

1068
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: A wealth of, quarterback Options, So, Walker Howard. Garrett andusmeyer it,

1069
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: was oh what was the name of the guy who

1070
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: retired who showed a little bit of PROMISE at Lsu

1071
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: And jayden daniels, right, Right right oh, My god i'm

1072
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: blanking on.

1073
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: His, name yeah what's? His name i'm blanking on It As.

1074
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 1: Miles Brennan, there's brennan. Thank. You yeah so he has all,

1075
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: these guys he has like four guys that he's got to,

1076
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: choose FROM and i just had no confidence That That

1077
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: brian kelly was going to be able to pull that.

1078
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: One off and it wasn't long into. THE season I

1079
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: think i tried to speak that situation, into existence if

1080
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: only for my, own amusement and then it wasn't long

1081
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 1: before it was pretty apparent to anyone who's paying attention

1082
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: that is going To Be jane daniel's job. To lose

1083
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: and obviously he's gotten a. Lot better he's got a.

1084
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Great story i'm excited to see what he does in

1085
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: the pros. As well he figures to be one of

1086
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: the first three. Draft picks if he falls, BELOW that

1087
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: i think it'd be a huge upset on. Draft night

1088
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: so somebody who's obviously very highly regarded by the next

1089
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: level and look Won The, heisman trophy won the trophy

1090
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: was crazy productive in that offense.

1091
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: Had started his career as, a freshman Completely ruining oregon's.

1092
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: Playoff chances that's right in, twenty nine like Deep To,

1093
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: brandon ayyuk like he was just launching as, a freshman Takes,

1094
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: down oregon comes back and almost pulls, it out and

1095
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: they started. Out terribly there's all these like rumors that

1096
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: somebody got Ahold of oregon's PLAYBOOK at asu or that

1097
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: was like weird. LIKE dealings i have no idea if

1098
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: any of that, is true but that has nothing to

1099
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 2: do with the Fact That jayden daniels completely bombed it

1100
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: over A good. Oregon defense oregon ends up Winning The,

1101
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: rose bowl but was incredible right AWAY for asu in, that. Game, especially, Yeah,

1102
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: GREAT okay i have Stay. With texas You Had Bier Murphy. Xavier,

1103
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: worthy okay He's. From fresno love Players. FROM fresno i

1104
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: feel like the hit Rate for, fresno players no matter

1105
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: where they go, to college is like one hundred and. Fourteen, percent.

1106
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: Okay agree so he's. CRAZY fast i Remember Like west

1107
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 2: coast schools looking, at him but for whatever reason didn't.

1108
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Take Him he's he Goes to michigan and he is

1109
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: Assured by michigan that all of his academics are, in

1110
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: order and, then suddenly like two weeks before, signing day, they're,

1111
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: LIKE oh i don't think it's, in order and he

1112
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: feels completely Betrayed by michigan ends up Transferring, to texas

1113
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: where he's immediately excellent for a Still growing. Texas team

1114
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 2: gets behind a ton OF defenses i think set a

1115
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: record in the combine for.

1116
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: Forty times he runs like a four to two to

1117
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: Two man's he will be, super quick.

1118
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: Not impossible, to replace but he's gonna be. VERY tough,

1119
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean texas has just recruited well enough and There's

1120
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: like John day Cook And ryan window and. Stuff there

1121
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: but he was so consistently excellent when on the field

1122
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: to deal with some injury issues that he was such

1123
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: a Spark for texas being quote unquote back in that

1124
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: he was like the clear go to receiver down, almost

1125
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: immediately and yet still there was very little that teams

1126
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: could do to. STOP it i always. Appreciate, that yeah.

1127
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: Xavier' worthy we we had a minute on our show

1128
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: where we were all In On, Xavier Worthy, xavier, Worthy

1129
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: This xavi you're worthy that and uh curious to see

1130
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: what situation he finds himself In imagine I'm out. Michigan

1131
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: too that's exactly what, they needed it. Really was but

1132
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: and yet they still want the national still. Without, him,

1133
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: yeah yeah? Who else?

1134
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: You got my last One's. Bon, Nicks OKAY and i apologize,

1135
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: For nothing and this, is why this is WHY if

1136
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: i can't because this is half, my SHOW so i

1137
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: get to CHOOSE what i, Talk, about Okay bo nick

1138
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: starts out his Career at auburn as a legacy as a.

1139
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: Five star the, whole world The whole, auburn universe expects

1140
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: the world.

1141
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: Of him he. Comes in.

1142
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: It's true Freshman starts, game one Immediately beats oregon on a,

1143
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: Neutral field kay Immediately beats oregon on a game. Winning

1144
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: throw finishes this Season beating alabama In The. Iron bowl

1145
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 2: never mind that it was Backup Quarterback mac jones throwing two.

1146
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: Pick six this was probably the biggest reason that game

1147
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: went the way. It did that's how his season was.

1148
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 2: Book ended, IN between i thought he. WAS okay i

1149
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: didn't even think he was that Good. AGAINST oregon i

1150
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: think he threw two Picks. Against oregon but the game.

1151
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: Worked out Mario christ ball probably mismanaged, that Game and

1152
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: auburn does what a good team does and takes advantage

1153
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: and wins a. Close game he's never he constantly has

1154
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: different Coordinators. At auburn he will show like flashes of

1155
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 2: greatness or make an, incredible play and then he'll like

1156
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: dirt three screens in, a Row like he's just never Comfortable.

1157
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: At auburn he never gets in. A rhythm he finally

1158
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: gets a real offensive well not a real, offensive quarter

1159
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: and He Gets mike bobo and he's showing flashes And

1160
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: Then brian harson's tenure as a disaster and he opts.

1161
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: To transfer he like breaks his ankle at the end

1162
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: of his final Season at auburn or does something terrible to,

1163
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 2: his ankle Goes. To oregon, I'm bummed i'm full on

1164
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: bummed that this is the guy to take Over at

1165
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: oregon and. He Leaves i'm i'm. Totally bud this happens Like.

1166
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: MID december i want, to say so This Is mario.

1167
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: Christobal leaves. I'm Bummed dan. Lanning arrives i'm. Pretty Excited

1168
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: dan lanning brings In. Bon nicks, i'm, Like oh i'm.

1169
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: BUMMED again i.

1170
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: Didn't, Get, IT dan i didn't. Get IT and i

1171
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: remember we get it. At all we did a, show

1172
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: HERE and i seem to remember being openly very skeptical

1173
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: that this was going to be, a thing like this

1174
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: is the guy that? You want are? You sure like

1175
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: this is WHAT am i? Missing?

1176
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: Here yeah And what oregon had a quarterback of the

1177
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: future And ty thompson correct Who ever oregon people wanted

1178
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: to put in the season before Instead Of anthony Brown

1179
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 2: And tyler shuck the, year before like there was just

1180
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 2: like this weird unease at Quarterback at oregon for the,

1181
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: first time And bo nicks is this wildly inconsistent quarterback

1182
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: who's never had a standout season that lives up to,

1183
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: his hype Arrives, at oregon immediately gets Drilled, by georgia

1184
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 2: immediately throws two.

1185
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: Bad picks.

1186
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: They lose remind me Of, the finals but forty nine.

1187
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: To three they don't score a touchdown in his, first

1188
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: game and after that moment is basically nothing. But EXCELLENT

1189
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: and i don't know how you tell The bon nicks

1190
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: are with Also Saying michael pennix was an, incredible story,

1191
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 2: of Course but i'm Not gonna i'm not gonna give

1192
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: that Honor To michael pennix on, my show sure after

1193
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: breaking my heart three times in the past. Two Years

1194
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: so bonnix is basically the, most efficient incredible quarterback that

1195
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: he never Was. At auburn after he Gets, to oregon,

1196
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: receivers develop offensive, Coordinators Develop kenny dillingham leaves after year

1197
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: One to Asu. Will stein is Great. For oregon their

1198
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: offense is a record setting Offense for oregon this. Past

1199
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: YEAR and I just i could not be more full

1200
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: on my. OWN words i could not be eating them

1201
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: more Tie that Boonix leaves oregon An absolute, oregon LEGEND

1202
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: and i could not going back to twenty nineteen eighteen.

1203
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: OR whatever i could not imagine finishing The bow nick

1204
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: story with. Those words and, so yeah he was everything

1205
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: a college football quarterback should be by the time He.

1206
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: Left Eugene and i'm not going to take it. For

1207
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: GRANTED and i hope it works Out With dylan gabriel.

1208
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: And beyond but man's.

1209
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: See, Excellent well it's just it goes to show that situations,

1210
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: are meaningful especially, in football and going to the right

1211
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: landing spot can have a. PROFOUND impact i did not

1212
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: see this In bo. NIX'S game, I mean i think

1213
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: we saw plenty of flashes in his Time at auburn

1214
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: that he had. Playmaking capabilities we knew that that was

1215
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: part of. His game, but consistency consistency was the THING

1216
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: that i think we had trouble fully grasping and seeing

1217
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: what he would.

1218
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: He Would PLAY texas A. AND m i remember there

1219
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: was a specific Game AT texas A and m against

1220
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: a Very good. Aggie defense he ended the game averaging

1221
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: like three and a half yards.

1222
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: Per attempt and.

1223
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: It just seemed wherever he looked was the wrong place. To, look,

1224
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 2: yeah right that he, was, like oh not. There again

1225
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 2: and so that he finished his Time, at oregon, you

1226
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: know beating the Teams that oregon beat in the manner

1227
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: in which, they did and playing with his sort of

1228
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: Adopted Brother. Tesz johnson that's a whole good, Story, too

1229
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: like it was just very cool to see somebody come

1230
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 2: full circle and get that sort of storybook ending plays

1231
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: in what ultimately is like a meaningless festa bal but

1232
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: wants to play one last Time.

1233
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: For oregon it's, very cool. That's. ALL yeah i think

1234
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he developed in the manner that, HE did,

1235
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: i mean obviously is going to be a borderline FIRST

1236
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: round Nfl talent at. THIS point i don't KNOW if

1237
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: i want him on. MY team i still do question

1238
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: that consistency at the. Next level but Obviously the oregon

1239
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: coaching staff found a way to get the best out

1240
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: of him on the college level and to be, a,

1241
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: very very, very productive as, he said record setting. Organ

1242
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: quarterback i'll miss. THEM too i won't feel the Same, About,

1243
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: BONNIX yeah. I agree, i mean he was in college football.

1244
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: LONG enough i think he set the record for most

1245
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: starts as a college, Football player so a cage veteran as. It,

1246
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: were yeah, all right that does it for our list

1247
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: of guys we will miss in twenty. Twenty four send

1248
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: in your names, as well all Across social media's oliverbo

1249
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: at gmail, dot com anywhere you Can find DAN and

1250
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: i let, us know let us know what names we

1251
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: left off. The list i'm looking at some of the

1252
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: names that came in now after we put out that Call,

1253
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: on twitter and you Got Some marvin harrison juniors, in

1254
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: here and not for the reasons that, you'd Expect But

1255
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 1: marvin harrison junior because maybe we won't get To Hear

1256
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 1: gush johnson Call Out maserati marv. A. Rat Yeah michael

1257
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: pennix getting some, Love here yeah, As Well. Michael Pennix.

1258
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: Zach fraser How About zach fraser the Center For, West virginia,

1259
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 1: ryan says an incredible center who led by example And

1260
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: the lion still have some good talent, in there but

1261
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: he's truly one of a kind at. That Position Some

1262
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: joe walt references in here. As, well joealt by, the

1263
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: way great. Offensive lineman name a, mountain, too right an.

1264
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: Absolute Mountain but, joealt like if you knew coming out

1265
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: of the womb that your offspring we're going. To belt

1266
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: if you knew that that that guy was gonna eventually

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Speaker 1: grew up to be an, offensive lineman you'd Name Him.

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Speaker 2: Joe, walt yeah or Like the secretary Of, The Interior Maybe.

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Speaker 1: Joe walt could Be the secretary Of the interior. As, Well,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah a lot, of.

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Speaker 2: Great nice picturesque Moment at Yellowstone With Secretary.

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Speaker 1: Joe. Alt yeah. Solid rebout gmail dot com again for

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Speaker 1: ballers dot com is where you can go to find Our.

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Speaker 1: Patreon dan we'll be back, next week, of course talking

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Speaker 1: through all sorts of things going on in and around

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Speaker 1: the world of. College football we have yet to really

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Speaker 1: scratch the surface on what's going on Out. At colorado

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Speaker 1: perhaps we can do that. Next week there are some

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Speaker 1: other news things that we need to, get into what

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Speaker 1: with the. Transfer portal, of course there are some other

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Speaker 1: items that we have yet to discuss where we'll do

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Speaker 1: our best to try and get through as much of

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Speaker 1: what's going on from a news standpoint in. College football but,

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Speaker 1: being so the draft Is as mandy folks are listening

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Speaker 1: to this tonight needed to take a stroll down.

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Speaker 2: Memory lane You See deon sanders say that he might

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Speaker 2: not like be on the sideline for all of the games,

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Speaker 2: this year that he does most of his work behind.

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Speaker 1: The Scenes now i've just made, that up but it

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Speaker 1: seems believable for. A second currently, zero recruits zero recruits

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Speaker 1: in the class of twenty. Twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That's okay he'll figure, out, like OH This nc state

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Speaker 2: backup left tackle is going to be the thing That drives.

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Speaker 1: Colorado Forward God dan, hayes though so we'll Talk about

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Speaker 1: colorado maybe. Next week thank you to everybody out there,

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