1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burgers Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Break for Tuesday, May twenty third. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Coming up today, still no deal. President Biden and Speaker 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: McCarthy meet again to try to avert a default. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Two FED officials and Jamie Diamond expect more rate increases. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia sents a warning to oil short sellers from 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: the Cutter Economic Forum, and. 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: You'lp share surge as an activist pushes a sale. 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: Looks like subway and bus fairs are going up. Donald 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: Trump's accuser amend's her lawsuit. I'm John Tuffer. Those stories 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: straight Ahead. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 4: From John Stas Sharon Sports. The Nuggets finished a sweep 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: for the Lakers, another win for the Florida Panthers. Yankees 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 4: host the Orioles tonight them Let's visit the. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 5: Code That's all straight Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 5: Business news you need to sturn your day in just 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 5: one fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 5: Bloomberg Business app and everywhere you get your podcasts. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Good good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: Karon, They're still talking, but there's still no deal. That's 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 2: where things stand in debt ceialing negotiations between President Biden 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, with the earliest possible default 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: now just nine days away. Speaker McCarthy says last night's 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: discussions were productive, but the Republican position is clear. We're 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: not going to raise taxes because we bring in more 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: money than we ever have, and we're not going to 28 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: pass the clean debt ceiling, and we've got to spend 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: less than we spent this year, and so everything else. 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 6: Is open for negotiations, but. 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: That is at the end of the day. 32 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 7: It has to fit in that place. 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: If President Biden released a statement after the meeting, he 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: says he reiterated that default is off the table and 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: the only way to move forward is to reach a 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: bipartis in agreement. Speaker McCarthy says he plans to speak 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: with the President every day until they reach a deal. 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, the stalemate comes a bit another warning from 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Janety Yellen. The Treasury Secretary, says it's now quote highly 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: likely that her department will run out as a few 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: cash in early June. In fact, she repeated her warning 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: that the moment could come as soon as June. 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: First, and as detlimit talks continue Karen Reaction pours in 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: on both sides of the aisle. Former Democratic Senator Barbara 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: Boxer says President Biden shouldn't have to negotiate. 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 7: I do trust the President. I don't like the fact 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 7: that there is a negotiation. 48 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I personally liked it better when he said he wasn't 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: going too, but it is. 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 5: What it is. 51 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: The former senator. Boxer says she trusts the President not 52 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: to give in on his positions. Meanwhile, former acting White 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: House Chief of Staff mcmulvaney says, Speaker McCarthy has done 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: a good job. 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 8: I thank Kevin feels what he has held up his 56 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 8: end of the bargain. He got his extreme right wing 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 8: on board with a package that nobody thought he could pass. 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 8: No one thought he could pass any package to raise 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 8: the debt ceiling, but he did. 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 9: Now. 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 8: I think if you ask Kevin and el Kenda, what 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 8: he's worried about is he doesn't think that Biden has 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 8: control over his progressive way in the same way that 64 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 8: Kevin is working with his right wing. 65 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Mcmulvaney and Barbara Boxer were both guests on Bloomberg's Sound 66 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: On Catch the program weekdays one pm Eastern on Bloomberg 67 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Radio or listen on demand wherever you get your podcasts. 68 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, as investors deal with the possibility of a debt default, Nathan, 69 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: the prospect of more rate hikes may also be in 70 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the card. Saint Louis Fed President James Bullard says he's 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: backing more hikes this year to quell inflation. 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 10: I'm thinking, you know, two more moves this year. Now, 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 10: exactly where those would be this year, I don't know, 74 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 10: but I've often advocated sooner rather than later. You want 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 10: to get the downward pressure on inflation while you can. 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 10: And also, you know, you want to fight inflation while 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 10: the labor market's really strong. 78 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: And Buller's call for more tightening is echoed by fellow 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: policymaker Neil Kashkari. The Minneapolis Fed president, says that if 80 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: the Central Bank does pause, it should not be taken 81 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: as a sign that tightening is over well. 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond is also predicting more 83 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: rate hikes. Karen. He spoke at the bank's Investor Day 84 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: in New York. 85 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 9: I think everyone should be prepared for rates going higher 86 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 9: from here. You know, if that five percent none off 87 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 9: of that funds if I and I've been advising this 88 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 9: to clients and banks, you should be paired for six seven. 89 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: Jamie Diamond, who's sixty seven years old, says he is 90 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: still invigorated and has no plans to quit anytime soon. 91 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 11: Well. 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Turning to the commodity markets now Nathan a warning from 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia's top energy official to oil short sellers a 94 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: week before opek Plus's next meeting. 95 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 7: I don't have to show my cards. 96 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 9: I'm not a poker player, and I don't know poker 97 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 9: how to play poker. But I got it from a 98 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 9: movie somewhere. 99 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 12: But but I. 100 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 7: Would just tell him watch out. 101 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: And that was Saudi Energy Minister Prince Abdulazi has been 102 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: salmon speaking earlier this morning at the Cutter Economic Forum 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: in a Doha and checking oil right now, I'm excrude 104 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: oil is down a third of up percent. It's seventy 105 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: one dollars eighty two cents a barrel. 106 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: In Corporate news this morning, Karen TikTok is soon going 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: to grant Oracle full access to its source code, its 108 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: algorithm and its content moderation material. 109 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 13: More from Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. The plan aims to alleviate 110 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 13: criticism from US policymakers who worry TikTok's ownership by China's 111 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 13: Bike Dance opens the door to influence her data collection 112 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 13: by the Chinese government. Now, TikTok's data for US users 113 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 13: will be cordoned off and it's technology reviewed by partners 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 13: like Oracle to assess security risk. Oracle will also begin 115 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 13: monitoring the controlled gateways where data comes in and out 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 13: of the secure environment. Oracle set up on servers to 117 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 13: host data from TikTok's US users in New York. I'm 118 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 13: Doug Prisoner, Bloomberg Daybreak. 119 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: All right, Doug, thanks, we'll share of Yelp a fourteen 120 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: percent at early training. The Wall Street Journal reporting an 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: activist investor as called for the company to look into 122 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: a sale and other strategic options. The paper says TCS 123 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Capital Management plans to deliver a letter to Yelp's board 124 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: later today in which it makes the case for a sale. 125 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: You know the earnings Newscaren Zoom Videos raise its full 126 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: year sales forecast. Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett reports. 127 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 11: It is a positive sign for the software makes effort 128 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 11: to continue growing in a post pandemic world. The San 129 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 11: Jose based company said revenue for the fiscal year ending 130 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 11: in January twenty twenty five will be four point four 131 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 11: seven to four point four nine billion dollars. That is 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 11: up from an earlier outlook of about four point four 133 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 11: to four billion. Zoom, which burst into public consciousness during 134 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 11: the height of the pandemic, is fighting to reverse us 135 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 11: slow down in growth for its video communications service by 136 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 11: expanding its tools for business in New York. Charlie Pellett 137 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 11: Bloomberg Dabris. 138 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: Time now to take a look at some of the 139 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: other stories making news in New York and around the world. 140 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: For that, we are joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 141 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: Good morning, John, Yeah, Good morning, Dathan. Was Subway and 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: bus fares maybe going up? The Metropolitan Transportation Authority planning 143 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: to boost its fares and tolls in late August, as 144 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: the largest US transit provider looks to collect more revenue 145 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: to help close budget deficits. The MTA considering boosting the 146 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: cost of a single subway or bus ride to two 147 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: dollars ninety cents from two seventy five. It is the 148 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: extra cash as ridership hasient to match pre pandemic levels. 149 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: Weekday subway ridership is about seventy percent of what it 150 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: was in twenty nineteen. The New York author who won 151 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: a five billion dollar sexual abuse trial against Donald Trump 152 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: this month is seeking new damages that story from Bloomberg's 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: Jeff Bellinger. 154 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 7: Egene Carroll is asked a federal judge in Manhattan to 155 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 7: allow additional details in the suit in which she claims 156 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 7: Trump defamed her. She wants to add remarks he made 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 7: about her on a recent CNN town hall. She's now 158 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 7: demanding ten million dollars. During the televised town hall, which 159 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 7: aired one day after a sexual abuse verdict against the 160 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 7: former president, Trump lashed out at Carroll. He called her 161 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 7: allegations a fake story and dismissed her as a whack job. 162 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 7: In the question and answer session from New Hampshire Jeff 163 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 7: Bellinger Bloomberg Radio. 164 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: US Labor Board prosecutors a lunch and a cod Amazon 165 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: repeatedly violated federal labor law at its sole unionized warehouse 166 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: on Staten Island. In a filing the National Labor Relations 167 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: Board Regional director writes that Amazon unilaterally changed policies and 168 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: terminated union supporters. Republican South Carolina Senator Tim Scott joining 169 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: what is likely to become a packed race for the 170 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: GUOP nomination and will go toe to toe with contenders 171 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: like former President Donald Trump. During his remarks at the 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: announcement rally, Scott described the country under the Biden administration 173 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: as a nation in retreat that's under attack from the 174 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: far left. 175 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 11: Attacking our American values, our schools, our economy, and our security. 176 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: But not on my watch, not on my watch. Word 177 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: this morning that Ukrainian President Flodimir Zelensky has met with 178 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: troops at the front line of Ukraine's Donesque region. His 179 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: visit may be a much needed boost to morale. The 180 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: eastern Ukrainian town of Bakhmud was just capture by Russian 181 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: forces after more than two hundred and twenty days of 182 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: house to house fighting. Global News twenty four hours a 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: day were powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalist 184 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: at analysts in more than one hundred and twenty countries. 185 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg, Nathan. 186 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: Thank you John. Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update. 187 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Good morning, John Stanshauer. 188 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: Good morning, Nathan. If the Heat beat the Celtics tonight 189 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: Game four in Miami, then the NBA will have something 190 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: that hasn't had since nineteen fifty seven, two series sweeps. 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 4: Going into the Finals Game four in the West and 192 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: NLA Lakers looked like they were gonna stay alive. They 193 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: led Denver by fifteen at the half and then got 194 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: out scored by twenty in the third corner. The Nuggets 195 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: won one thirteen, one eleven. It's their first ever series sweep, 196 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: their first ever trip to the NBA Finals. Nikola Jokicz 197 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: thirty points, fourteen rebounds, thirteen assists. Lebron James scored forty 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 4: thirty one in the first half, but he missed two 199 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 4: game time shots down the stretch, and Lebron then surprised 200 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: many by hinting at retirement. If they Heat win tonight, 201 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: they're into the finals as an eight seed. The hockey 202 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: team from South Florida also one win from an East 203 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: Final sweep on a trip to the Stanley Cup Final 204 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: as an eight seed. The Panthers top Carolina one nothing. 205 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: Florida has won ten of its last eleven playoff games 206 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 4: and nine of the ten wins have been by one goal. 207 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: Yankees back at the stadium tonight to play Baltimore. Here's 208 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: Aaron Bowen after the six to one road. 209 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 14: Trend, excited about how well this team is competing their 210 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 14: level of again, walk in with edge, prepare and compete, 211 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 14: and they're doing that at a high level right now. 212 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: Eric Colet and I facing the much improved Orioles who 213 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: have baseball second best record. Mets and Cubs at Wrigley, 214 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: Mets going for a six straight win. Tiger Woods made 215 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 4: official he won't play next month's US Open. Tom Brady 216 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: has officially become a minority owner in the Las Vegas Raiders. 217 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 4: NFL approved flexing some Thursday night games good for TV, 218 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: but the Jets and Giants both voted no, Billy need 219 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: was unfair to fans who attend the games. Johns Dash 220 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: Edward Bloomberg Sports. 221 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 6: Live from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 222 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 6: Boston to Washington, DC, nationwide on Siriusxam of Bloomberg Business 223 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 6: Appen Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 224 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager with the US now just 225 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: nine days from a potentially catastrophic default on its debt. 226 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has emerged from his latest meeting 227 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: with President Biden without a deal, but with a promise 228 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: to keep talking. 229 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 7: We know the deadline. 230 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 10: I think the President and I are going to talk 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 10: every day to try to find until we get this done. 232 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: That was Speaker McCarthy following that White House meeting last night. 233 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: For more, we are joined from Washington by Bloomberg government 234 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: reporter Jack Fitzpatrick, who has been following these discussions for 235 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: weeks now. Jack, good morning. We keep hearing from both 236 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: sides that the talks are productive, but they haven't produced 237 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: a deal just yet. So where do things stand this morning. 238 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 12: Well, they can't really lock any partial agreement and until 239 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 12: everything is agreed to, so they're still talking about all 240 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 12: the issues we've heard about. They're talking about spending cuts 241 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 12: and then caps on out year spending. The energy permitting 242 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 12: expedited measures are still under discussion. Work requirements for nutrition 243 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 12: aid are still under discussion, and they're probably not going 244 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 12: to announce that they've agreed on some portion of it 245 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 12: until they've got the whole thing locked in. They seem 246 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 12: to all understand that this needs to happen by very 247 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 12: early June. They're working under the assumption that June first 248 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 12: is the deadline, and there really hasn't been any information 249 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 12: that conflicts with that. It does look like the deadline 250 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 12: absolutely could be in early June. They want to get 251 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 12: this a handshake deal done as soon as possible because 252 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 12: McCarthy is determined to get his members seventy two hours 253 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 12: to review it before he asks for a vote, and then, 254 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 12: of course you've still got to get it through the Senate. 255 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 12: So they're kind of up against the wall here in 256 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 12: terms of timing and sticking to their own schedule of 257 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 12: allowing members to read something. So there's an expectation that 258 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 12: they're going to really push to get something out. If 259 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 12: not today, then absolutely as soon as possible. 260 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you laid out a long list of bullet points 261 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: there where there remains disagreement, and laid out very nicely. 262 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: How little time there is. Does that leave enough time 263 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: to get an agreement on all those points? Or can 264 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: they just agree on a few things and move something 265 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: forward that can at least avert a default. 266 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 12: Well, some things can kind of fall off the map, 267 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 12: and even recently there have been other proposals that kind 268 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 12: of quickly got taken off the table. The White House 269 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 12: has brought up increased revenues, closing tax loopholes, and the 270 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 12: Republicans have been pushing back against that, you know, but 271 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 12: the core of it really is a conversation about limiting spending. 272 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 12: Find deciding how much they want to cut from discretionary 273 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 12: spending in the next year, and then how low they 274 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 12: want to cap it in the out years. A lot 275 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 12: of things could fall into place if they agree on that. 276 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 12: It's basically that they need to agree on a budgetary framework, 277 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 12: and that's difficult to do to get something that McCarthy 278 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 12: and Biden can sell to their members and get through 279 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 12: the House and get sixty votes in the Senate. But 280 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 12: it is absolutely possible that, you know, that's just a 281 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 12: matter of numbers. They could agree to something very quickly 282 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 12: if they are both determined to make some concessions and 283 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 12: get this done. 284 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the question. You can have a framework, 285 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: but there remains the question of whether it can garner 286 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: enough support to pass both chambers of Congress. Do you 287 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: get a sense that there would be enough bipartisan agreement 288 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: to move a framework deal forward. 289 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 12: If it gets those two principal negotiators on board. That 290 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 12: is a very good sign. There's a lot that goes 291 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 12: into that. McCarthy needs something that is weighted toward Republican support. 292 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 12: They can rely on Democratic votes. They don't need two 293 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 12: hundred and eighteen Republican votes in the House, but he 294 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 12: needs definitely the majority of his conference, maybe something more comfortable, 295 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 12: maybe two thirds to support this. The Senate could get complicated. 296 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 12: You could put Senator Schumer, the majority leader, in a 297 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 12: tough position if there are more Republicans supportive of the 298 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 12: measure than Democrats. But it is considered a pretty safe 299 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 12: bet that this can get sixty votes if it's got 300 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 12: the House majority behind it and a Democratic president. It 301 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 12: really then would be more of a concern about political 302 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 12: leader's popularity among their own members. But if they get 303 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 12: these two negotiators, the president and the Speaker of the House, 304 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 12: on board, then it's had a very very good chance 305 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 12: in both chambers. 306 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: Only about thirty seconds left here, Jack, Is there any 307 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: reason to think the next round of discussions could be 308 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: any different, could get us closer to a deal. 309 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 12: We're basically in continuous negotiations. Even when McCarthy and Biden 310 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 12: aren't meeting. They've got their point people talking, and McCarthy 311 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 12: said he may call the President on the phone if necessary. 312 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 12: So it's not even rounds of negotiations. It's that we're 313 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 12: all sort of waiting on news of a deal at 314 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 12: almost any moment, probably not the early morning, but yes, 315 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 12: they are that close. 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