WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Much Sleuthing 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:15.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.200 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.919 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:33.080 and Nicky Spagnola. And here it is. It's already Thursday, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.559 as we get you set for Cowboys and Steelers on 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:41.320 Sunday afternoon at at and T Stadium. These these weeks 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:46.560 just go by so quickly, and we let's see, we 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.800 don't know who the next president is. And we still 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.400 don't know who the next starting quarterback of the Dallas 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:57.360 Cowboys is. Er at one thirty on Thursday, Everson Walls 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.960 and Mickey Spagnola, how are you doing in your risk 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:04.000 spect of s WBC Mortgage Studios. I'm great, I am 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:08.479 doing just great. Yes, thank you Staggs for the show. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.520 Check it out. Yeah, look at there, got stripes right side, right, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:20.840 right size, very nice. So Mickey, how are you doing? 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.080 I'm good. I was betting on we'd find out the 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:29.080 president before the quarterback. Yep, I was thinking that same thing. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:36.120 We probably still will because I'm running out of time though. Well, however, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.560 and we won't get into president talk obviously, but I 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:46.320 would imagine. I would imagine even when even when the 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.720 network say we have a president, it's good to still 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:54.200 be a long battle before Well, it'll be inauguration day 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.600 probably before we know who the president is whoever shows up. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.680 So so the Cowboys will have a starting quarterback by 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.320 three twenty five on Sunday, and it might be right 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.200 before kickoff before we find out who who. Okay, let 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.440 me ask you this right at the top, whoever is 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.919 the starting quarterback? Did they win the battle this week? 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:21.280 Or did they lose the battle this week meeting? They're 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.440 going up against the Steelers defense. Oh very cute. It 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.240 depends on if they win. What if they play, well, 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.760 then yeah, you won the battle. I mean, we can't. 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.840 The monster has to show me his teeth before I'm 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:39.080 going to be afraid of him teeth first. Well, you 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.080 know what I think? What do we look at it 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.360 this way? Are we sure that one of the two 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.200 is going to be the backup quarterback? I mean, it's 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.840 not the way it's going to work out. Who'd ever 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.160 is not named the starter? The other guys the backup? 0:02:54.320 --> 0:03:02.800 I would think so because they McCarthy is saying, which one. Yeah, No, No, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.400 I think what he's saying. I think what Mickey is 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.720 saying is, all right, we've got a battle between Garrett 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.480 Gilbert and Cooper Rush to be the starter. And Mickey, 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.679 you're asking, is it guaranteed that whoever Garrett Gilbert or 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.480 Cooper Rush, he's whoever's not the starter is going to 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.560 be the backup? Or has been Denucci going to be 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.160 the backup? Yeah? I mean, if you're good enough to start, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:28.840 are you good enough to back up? I was just asking, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.680 but if you hey, but if you're gonna go with 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.120 the backup, you gotta go with the backup with the 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:42.600 most game experience. And I'm right back to where right, Well, 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.160 you know what did you did you catch? Did you 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.920 catch McCarthy's answer about the holder? Yes? I knew that's 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.760 where you were going because he said you were he 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.920 didn't he didn't like commit. And then he said, well yeah, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:59.200 and Denucci has been in that, and it's like, oh, 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.760 you would you keep all three quarterbacks active so one 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.560 could hold because the other guys obviously if they're practicing, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.640 they ain't getting much practice holding. So we got to 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:14.720 see if uh, nice Wander is a holder too, And 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.720 I did look up, I didn't up the pronunciation of 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:22.200 his name, and the Big ten network called him nice Wander, 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.320 Nice Wander, and I s w A N D E 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.000 R and it's nice Wander. Yeah. So if they're if 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.040 they're accurate, so so so a third of our team 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.560 is going to be full of backup punters and best 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:48.240 and tackles and offensive just keeps on go and and 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:54.360 back up defensive tackles and guys that hadn't played in years. Uh. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:59.240 It's it's quite a uh combination of things this year 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.440 twenty tw money. That's all I gotta say. We have 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:06.000 a thirty We have a thirty year old quarterback that 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:11.480 is considered the most experienced on our squad, with two 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:18.360 completions in his entire career in the NFL. But one 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:20.880 thing we didn't mention yesterday. You guys talked about it 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:26.160 off the air. Gilbert does have some experience in professional football. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.400 That's right, right. I think that I think it needs 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.120 to be brought up because it may sway me just 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.440 a bit. It would have swayed me if I would 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.760 have heard that yesterday before I went on my rent 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:43.920 and Hunter the punters got some professional experience too with 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:51.320 the DC defenders. M is that XFL or AAFL. It 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:58.040 was XFL XFL okay average a couple of years ago 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:03.960 forty four point six. You know, when you punt, it's 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.839 like it's like track. A punt is a punt. It 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.440 doesn't matter what school you come from or what level 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.600 it's on. If you can punt, you can punt, right. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.680 If you can run, you can run. If you can punt, 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.080 you can punt. So I'm gonna give him some love 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.039 and regards to that. He'll get the benefit of the 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:25.360 doubt from me. Anyway. However, at Northwestern they don't deal 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:31.560 with an overhanging scoreboard he's got to work around. At 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.520 eighteen years only only Ohio State could probably afford that. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.679 Oh yeah, that's right. I think we have to worry 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:45.400 about that. And what Everson is alluding to, and we 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.680 brought it up late in the show yesterday, is that 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.800 Garrett Gilbert was on track perhaps to be the most 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.880 valuable player of the Alliance of American Football last year 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.280 when he played for the Orlando Apollos and was leading 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.120 them led them to something like a seven and one record. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.200 Before that league folded. Uh, you know, and I just 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.880 something holded because that's a horrible name. Oh my god, 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:15.520 the Orlando What what do they follows? I guess it's God, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.440 that was a stretch. I mean, what are they trying 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.760 to represent? Space? Is that for for NASA or was 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:33.480 it something? Now? I think I was NASA? Uh Um. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.400 I think when I'm just reading between the lines with 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.560 Mike McCarthy, I think a lot of people are thinking 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.400 it's going to be Cooper Rush. I just have a 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.240 feeling it seems like he goes to Gilbert first every 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.440 time he talks about that. You know what, Bill, I 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.800 pointed that out today. I noticed it the last two 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.720 days that when he says the two guys names, he 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:59.160 says Garrett Gilbert before Cooper Rushed each time. Yeah. So 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:06.240 that's my that's my sleuth work. And it makes sense 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.960 from the standpoint aside from what ever since pointing out 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.200 about what he did do in a spring league uh, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.600 and the fact that he's thirty years older around that. Uh. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:20.440 But but more to the point, he has actually been 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:25.240 at practice a little bit longer than Cooper Rush. Hass right, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.680 I think I think two weeks more. They signed him 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.800 on October. He's got two October thirteenth, and then he 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.960 had to pass his six days, so he got into 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:40.040 practice that that following Monday. Uh yeah, so he's he's 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:47.000 had this. This would be his third week with the team, right, yeah, 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.200 So so he's been here longer, just like Danucci was 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.240 here longer than Gilbert was here. And so if we 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.320 go down, Okay, so we had dakas the starter to 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.480 start the year, then Andy Dalton okay, to Uci was 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.640 next in line because he was here longer than Gilbert. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.960 So Gilbert is the fourth, and then after this week, 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.120 it'll be Cooper Rush the following after a bye week. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:12.880 All right, well, it would get us to five quarterbacks. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:17.480 Hit the breaking news sounder. We figured it out. There 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:23.640 you go. Breaking News mix shots announces that Garrett Gilbert 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:29.719 might be the starting quarterback. Might be we're here to 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.920 right now that he might be. Yes, that's okay. Let's 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:39.040 let's put it this way. Are you giving Pittsburgh? Are 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:45.520 you giving Pennsylvania to Garrett Gilbert? Real funny? Does the 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:52.839 Mick the Mick News Network, do you award Pennsylvania to 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.840 h Garrett Gilbert? All all the votes are not in 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:02.920 yet and they what. We're waiting on the absentee ballance 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:08.080 to be added up, just just like Nevada. It's gonna 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.920 be in November ninth. Will know what's the deal with Nevada. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.400 They can't count They can count cards there, but they 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:19.800 can't count votes. What's the deal? Only fifty thousand at 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.559 a time? Okay, come on, give him a break, man, Yea, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.280 all right? So what news do you got today? They're 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:33.120 Mickey from Mike McCarthy's press conference today, and we're moving 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.040 forward with this week. And there was a lighter workout 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:39.400 yesterday because of the Sunday night game, and so their 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.880 their biggest work of the week is coming or came 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.440 today today. The pads were on today. Ezekiel Elliott will 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.920 still be limited. It looks like, as as Mike said 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:56.600 in his press conference, they're gonna give him some work, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.240 but kind of a lighter load. He feels like though 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.439 with the hamstring, they're just trying to get him to 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.200 Sunday the best they can, as healthy as they can. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.080 Same thing with Alden Smith. So those were the two 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.840 guys that they were somewhat concerned with. And then Chitube Awoozier. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.000 I think today was supposed to be his day, Like 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.720 how much does he do today? And that would determine, um, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:27.000 if he's get if he gets uh activated off injured reserve. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.480 But he's starting to run out of time, right, he 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.000 would only have one more week after you got twenty 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.920 one days, right, Bill, And I think this was the 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.760 second week, so next week. If if you don't activate 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:42.120 him next week, then he's on IR for the remainder 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.000 of the season. I believe, Well, he's for sure going 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:50.920 to get activated unless you had some some really bad setbackers. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.480 What happened to be this week or injury reserve, it 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.840 happened to be next week? Next week would be injured 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.160 next they can even though it's the bye week, but 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.920 they would have to make that move I guess within 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.120 the twenty one day window, which would be next week. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.520 Don't have a game. Yeah, yeah, that's right, Okay and 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.200 so and so. Um, it'll be interesting to see what 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.439 decision they make. And today's a big day as far 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.040 as determining that, and I'm sure beyond that when he 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.280 gets asked about it tomorrow, Uh, it will be Well, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.320 tomorrow is a big day because they have to see 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.720 how he recovers from today, right, and then we'll see 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.080 what he can do on Saturday, because you can draw 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:32.000 this thing out till Saturday, that's right, And then they'll 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.040 say that, well if we don't, if he doesn't play 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.200 this week, then he gets the extra week because of 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.160 the bye week, and he would really be ready to 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.079 go in Minnesota a couple of weeks from now. Well 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.760 you get act. We got that to figure it out, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.000 and he doesn't play. I mean you can also always 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.320 do that kind of like what they did with Sean Lee. Right, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.280 It's kind of like what they did with Shaun Lee 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:58.640 and the previous week with Randy Gregory. So, but use 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.040 up that spot for somebody it might be valuable to 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.439 the to the team that might act I don't play. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:12.079 Is there anyone invaluable to the team? Uh? Well, remember 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.640 you can you can only at the most, you can 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.280 only have forty eight actives, so you would have to 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.559 uh put down least five guys, So you can always 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.080 make him inactive on game date just to protect their 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.360 rights for the rest of the season. Hey can can 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:33.760 the woozier? Can the woozier? Can he kick? Can he kick? Yeah? 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.720 Can you hold? Just remember this? We want to make 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.840 our nice winder can do both. He can kick and 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:42.880 he can punt. We'll find out if he can hold 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.480 there you go. I also heard but one of the 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:52.200 things he has the ability, uh he punts right footed. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.319 I hear. I'm trying to remember if I heard this right, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:00.200 that he actually kicks left footed. No, no way, there's 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.720 no way, no no, hey, Bill, that happens. I have 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:09.160 a nephew, both of my nephews. He eats right handed. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:14.000 He kicks left handed. That's different. He bats left handed. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.959 I understand handed. It's stupid, man, you know, I understand that. 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.320 It's great. Their brains all mixed up off in there. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.080 So he probably can't do all of that. But you can't. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:28.920 You can't punt right footed and kick left footed? Why not? 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.080 Why not? I mean you can, but what would be 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.000 the now there would be an advantage. Bill Parcel has 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.600 always talked about the how difficult it is when you 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.200 go up against a left footed punter, and so, okay, 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.360 I can understand being a right footed place kicker and 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.280 a left footed punter because it's so so difficult to 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.800 field a punt off the foot of a lefty. Have 0:14:54.920 --> 0:15:01.720 you ever seen uh an ambidextrous quarterback drawing right. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:06.280 it happens. There's there's a major league pitcher who's who 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.200 does it? Yeah, that's right? Would that it's surely possible? 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.520 Just think how that would mess up an on site kick? 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.440 Do you have to declare? Like in baseball the pitcher 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:24.000 has to declare whether he's gonna pitch right handed or 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.920 left handed? Does the putter or the kicker have to 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.080 declare ahead of time that he's doing it right or 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.760 left handed? Does that mean? So? Then the coach comes 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.520 out and he taps his left eye right for the 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:42.080 left hand to kicker. Is that how? That's right? After 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.720 after the failed third down, the coach goes out to 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:51.160 the middle of the field, off the off the bench. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:58.280 All right, well, well we're rolling along here there to go. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.280 So no concern about Zeke or Alden Smith being able 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.120 to play on Sunday, not yet. But you know, I 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.000 mean they're certainly not going to tell us anything that 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.920 they uh, they don't want Pittsburgh to know about. Right, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.600 So um, we'll see where We'll see where the thing 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:26.160 goes with Zeke? How how how how are you I 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.240 know you don't get a chance to see the players 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.960 much more spags. You know, there were time when they 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.160 would hold a press conference and you guys could be 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.040 right there. Yeah, we don't around them, check the body 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.560 language and things of that nature. Well, just from maybe 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:47.920 the virtual interviews. Uh, how is Zeke? How's his body language? 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.800 I mean right now the cowboys are looking for They're 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.080 looking for somebody to step up, you know, offensively is 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.440 what we're having the major issues in regards to continuity 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.400 as far as personnel, and Zeke is one of the 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.240 few that has been the mainstay. Now you're talking about 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:10.959 the hamstring, and of course everyone's concerned about his uh attitude, 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.800 his leadership qualities. What do you have? You had a 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.600 chance to look at him and see what his body 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.879 language might be at this point because with no Zach 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.000 I'm sorry, with no that, with no type, no on 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.359 my guy, you can just pick all the linemen that 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:33.000 are not there for him. Uh, there's no show. I'm sorry, no, uh, 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:37.120 no type. You got one tight end missing? Yeah, load Collins. 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.480 What what what is his attitude? What is he? What 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.439 is he looking like? What's his body langue? You know, 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.080 I think it's been good, Actually, I think it's been 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.560 better than when you saw them in person. His nature 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.800 on the on those conference calls seems to be, if it, 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:55.800 very upbeat, very positive. Uh and uh maybe a little 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.439 bit even more forthcoming than than he had been. So 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:03.400 from that standpoint, um, you know, I think he's been 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.280 I think he's been really good. Uh. And it's gotten better, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:11.439 believe it or not, as the season's gone along, you know, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.000 because as you as you look at a leader like Dak, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.640 you know, you expect him, no matter what, to roll 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.240 out the uh. And I don't want to call him 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.959 canned because you know, we know from Dak's uh attitude 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.840 and his past that those words he says, he believes them. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.600 But there is a script that a leader like Dak 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.760 sticks to. And there's always that other guy who would 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.360 be Zeke, who would, as you say, be a little 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.360 bit more forthcoming, a little bit more earthy and organic 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.320 in his responses. Just kind of wondering, Uh, has he 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.439 revealed anything to you about how he's feeling now without 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.480 Dak and and just how tough it's been for him 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.640 to to to catch his stride, you know, and he hasn't. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.119 He hasn't used any excuses, and he hasn't blamed anybody, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.480 and he owned up to the fumbles and uh and 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.440 he continues to say, yeah, I just need to do better, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.840 we need to do better as an offense. So he 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.120 hasn't sat there kind of with a pouty face going well, 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.840 yeah and got nobody to run behind and uh so yeah, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.360 and he's been good and Mickey, he's never he's never 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:25.480 been like that, you know. Yeah, he hasn't struck you 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.639 as being a guy that kind of talks out of 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.919 turn at all. Now, Yeah, no, he's he's no, you 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.680 know I it was Emma would do that occasionally, Yes, yeah, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.120 you know, immediately the same thing, same thing you're talking 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:42.639 about Everson with DA you know, Troy, and he purposely, 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:44.919 as being the quarterback of the team, would give the 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.560 canned answers. I mean he would off the record saying, 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.280 you know, off to the side to the media, well 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.679 that is what I gotta say, you know, and uh, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.480 being the quarterback of the team, but you could get 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.840 you know, Emmett would would show up his once or 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.800 once a week or so in the middle of that 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.639 locker room, and sometimes he would he would voice his 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.200 opinion on sub shoot. We saw him him att voice 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.480 his opinion big time on it. The one preseason game 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:14.000 he did last year. Well, I'll tell you what I know, 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.400 and I know we got he was holding that hand 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.560 for a long time. I know we gotta go a break. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.439 But I'll tell you this one thing about him at 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.800 from his rookie year when they weren't running the ball 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:28.719 very much. Uh, in nineteen ninety David Shewlett. For some reason, 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:32.200 I forgot that they had him at Smith and we 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:36.560 were about, oh, it was getting close to November, and 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.840 he was getting peppered about you know, well you haven't 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.800 had a hundred yard game or data da And he 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.200 finally looked at him and said, you know what, it's 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.920 really hard to gain a hundred yards with seven carries. 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.520 But you never hear you never hear Zeke say anything 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.800 like that. You no, no, No, he's no speak more distant. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.159 I think he has. He has the propension to be 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:07.840 more distant as opposed to yes, and he has. Yeah, 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.720 and he hasn't been. He he was sort of that 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.320 way when we started these these uh, these conference calls. 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.959 But once the season started he kind of got with it, 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:20.879 you know, and and uh a little bit more. Uh, 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.160 you know what I can't understand what you're asking. Could 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.359 you repeat that? And much more personable than than he 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:29.919 had been before them. 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And I see where uh they have five 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.960 they have a couple of touchdowns touchdown returns uh. And 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:02.040 it looks like their defensive return too. So they're not 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:06.159 only get takeaways, which they're second in the league, but 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:11.520