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Speaker 1: NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. It is

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Speaker 1: NFL Cover zero, the Divisional Playoff Round. Matt Jones, Drew

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Speaker 1: Franklin Ready to go. Here. It's a day late. It's

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday. But you know, it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: Billy's schedule. He's really busy, so it's hard to get

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Speaker 1: him in for all the days we need to do.

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Speaker 1: And so Drew, we're here and thanks to Billy for

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Speaker 1: showing up and we're ready to go. I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Billy, but Drew. Nice to have you.

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Speaker 2: Being a day late means we were one day close

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Speaker 2: to the actual football.

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Speaker 1: That's all right. And if we had taped this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we would have known the news about

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh. This is the most important story of the

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Speaker 1: week for the NFL. John Harbaugh is the new coach

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Speaker 1: of the Giants. The first of eight coaching vacancies to

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Speaker 1: come filled is John Harbaugh. I think it was well.

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Speaker 1: It was first reported by like Marty Mush I believe

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Speaker 1: on Barstool Sports. He's He's the first person I saw

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets official credit or not.

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Speaker 1: Chefter I think confirmed it this morning. I have thought

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Speaker 1: the Giants was the best of the jobs for the

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Speaker 1: long term future. It's in New York. I can totally

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Speaker 1: see why John Harball would want to do it. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the Giants best shot to have a good, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, a good coach for the future that won't fail.

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Speaker 1: John Harball, you know won't fail. So I like it.

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Speaker 1: What about you? I like it too.

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Speaker 2: Kind of assume they'd be where you'd go. The moment

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Speaker 2: he left Baltimore, my Titans were in the mix.

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Speaker 1: I dreamed a little. I won't lie. Knew we're second

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Speaker 1: on the board in terms of yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, on that he was going to do an in

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Speaker 2: home interview, he wasn't gonna go to Nashville for a

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Speaker 2: good time. Well, I played out in my head they

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Speaker 2: invited him. He's like, look, I'm grilling hot dogs. Y'all

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Speaker 2: can come by.

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Speaker 1: Just come in. You can talk to me for I'm

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Speaker 1: you're not willing to go to the city you might

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Speaker 1: move to, then you're probably not moving to that city.

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Speaker 2: He's like, listen, I had family and we're watching a movie.

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Speaker 2: If y'all want to come by, I'll talk for a

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Speaker 2: few minutes. That's where we were. However, not to make

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Speaker 2: it about the Titans, but him having them second maybe

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Speaker 2: makes the job look more attractive for others.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. So like you're like the school that loses

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Speaker 1: the recruit but gets the hat on the table. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're moral victory teams. You'r a hat on the table.

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Speaker 1: But there was no doubt that he was going to

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Well, I will come back to the Titans Giants,

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Speaker 1: So I think he'll do well, Jackson Dart. I think

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Speaker 1: the fans and the media will like him. He'll be

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Speaker 1: the coach. You know, They've had a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: over the years that have had some good resumes, but

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Speaker 1: really Tom Coughlin's been the last time they've been successful.

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Speaker 1: There Are we going to see the Giants in a

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Speaker 1: meaningful playoff game? I think so they.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like they've had twenty coaches since

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Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin had some success. There a lot of guys

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Speaker 2: for just a couple of years. Harbball is not a

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Speaker 2: and already some good pieces to the fan base, or tradition.

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Speaker 1: I think all that matters. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If Harball will take him to the Promised Landry, then

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Speaker 2: crazy because he won't have him. He doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: And it puts him in the opposite conference of his brother,

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Speaker 2: It is just also, I mean, Lamar was the star.

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Speaker 2: They've had some stars, but just the toughness you associated.

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of that goes back before him too,

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Speaker 2: why if you're the Giants, you see that news, you're like, wait,

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Speaker 2: we can get Harball.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's the greatest, Like, you know, isn't that the

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Speaker 1: greatest thing that could fall in your lap? Of all? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: One of the few people who wanted to give day

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Speaker 2: Hardball is available, throw away the sheet of Canadates.

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Speaker 1: We have our candidate, Go get him. I Brian Billick

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Speaker 1: was the coach before Harball. Billick and Harball. Whatever happened

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Speaker 1: a little TV for a b He was a very charismatic,

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Speaker 1: seemed very likable. What did he just decide to disappear

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Speaker 1: off the planet. Yeah, I'm not sure why I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at you like you would like, I'm like, Billy, why

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Speaker 1: is Brian Billick not in my life? I kind of

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't remember what Brian Billick's up to

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Speaker 3: But I do know he played the Giants in the

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a fact as a Baltimore coach. But I

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Speaker 1: mean his Wikipedia pulled up here he's been doing last decade.

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a fifteen year gap from the year

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Speaker 2: But in the year too, twenty twenty two, just three

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Speaker 2: four years ago, he was the advisor to the head

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Speaker 1: That's a made up job, That's what it says on

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Speaker 1: mean you just can call you and be like, Brian,

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Speaker 1: he's seventy one, So that means he basically at fifty

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Speaker 2: Why do more people do that? I would, I definitely would.

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Speaker 2: The guys that want to I want to do this forever.

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Speaker 2: I want to do it till I'm eighty. Not me,

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Speaker 2: Do you don't think you get bored?

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. No, I would get bored in

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like Brian beliks found anything. Also

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Speaker 1: occasionally he gets lunch with Kenny Dillingham. Well, actually I

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Speaker 1: knew a new detailed suit emails are emerging. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: he was the advisor head coach in twenty twenty suit.

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Dillingham took over in twenty twenty three, so so

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Speaker 1: he was advised. Yeah, he advised HERM on the way out.

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Speaker 2: I guess he got a year with HERM advising the

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Speaker 1: Let me be clear, I love herb were pro HERM,

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Speaker 1: but the advice couldn't have worked. No, hern was only

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Speaker 1: HERM didn't need it. I listen, I die interview HERM

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Speaker 2: So he came out of his cave after fifteen years

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Speaker 2: to advise HERM. HERM got fired and he went right

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Speaker 1: Wow, well maybe we could get him on the show.

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Speaker 1: Can we get herm on? I love her? I love

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Speaker 1: her too, Yes, I could get herb to do anything. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's Hern's adviser, so that we have the contact there,

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Speaker 1: HERM can get his Billick. Would you rather have herm

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Speaker 1: ask if we can get from Billick? He's my boy? Okay.

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Speaker 1: Herm said, I was invited the cookout. Oh really? Yeah? Nice?

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Speaker 2: Herham said, I could come to the cookout. I've never

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Speaker 2: met him, but he does seem like a genuine awesome guy.

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Speaker 1: I I've never met him in person, but I just

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Speaker 1: I love the guy. He's great and he really we

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Speaker 1: give each other a hard time. He genuinely, though, believes

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Speaker 1: he could play in the NFL and still get interceptions. Today.

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Speaker 1: President said, oh good, he said confidence. He said if

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Speaker 1: That was his direct quote.

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Speaker 2: It says Ron Bill gonna be advisor to the cornerback.

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Speaker 2: Does he need his help on that too?

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Speaker 1: He could get his, so anyway, good for John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Good for Jackson Dart and congratulations. If the Giants fans,

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Speaker 2: You got a coach with a ring on his finger.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't have expected that after having what was that

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Speaker 2: No, before that, they were Joe so Judge, Joe Judge,

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Speaker 2: Now they have a guy with a Super.

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Speaker 1: Bowl and they got Skataboo and neighbors. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: Ben McAdoo, that's the one I'm trying to think of.

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Speaker 1: Not Bob Oh. Give me the Giants head coaches since

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Speaker 1: uh since Tom Coughlin. Pat Shermer was another one.

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Speaker 2: We could do this all day there. I bet they're

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Speaker 3: Okay, Coughlin was four to fifteen. Then you had Ben McAdoo,

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Speaker 3: Steve spag Spagnola, Pat Shermer, Joe Judge, Brian Dabole and.

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Speaker 1: That's a who's who of who's not. Were they all

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Speaker 1: there exactly two years? No, Spagnola was one, Joe Judge Spagnola, Shermer,

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Speaker 1: uh Ben macaoju Bat McAdoo, and Day Ball. I still

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Speaker 1: I think he was, and he always looked to me.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a good Giants coach because it

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Speaker 1: looked to me like he could also be a New

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or if he need to go over to Jersey,

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Speaker 1: What do you think? What? What do you who would be?

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Speaker 1: It's gon be something like Malik Willis will be the

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Speaker 1: With my Titans.

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Speaker 1: So what are some of the names and people that

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator for the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Now okay, Well then maybe he wasn't the code? Was

432
00:20:03,933 --> 00:20:05,693
Speaker 1: he not the head coach of Denver at one point?

433
00:20:06,173 --> 00:20:08,693
Speaker 1: Sounds familiar. I think he did have a coach. No

434
00:20:08,733 --> 00:20:12,253
Speaker 1: way he This tells you how prepared I sometimes I

435
00:20:12,293 --> 00:20:15,133
Speaker 1: am for assistance. I don't follow them enough to know.

436
00:20:15,613 --> 00:20:19,372
Speaker 1: But Vance Joseph was Bronco's head coach from seventeen to eight,

437
00:20:19,973 --> 00:20:23,333
Speaker 1: and it's the defensive coordinator and has been the Broncos

438
00:20:23,453 --> 00:20:26,253
Speaker 1: DC since twenty three. I always think that's.

439
00:20:26,173 --> 00:20:28,653
Speaker 2: Weird when you guys would have to be hard walking

440
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Speaker 2: to a different office than the head coach's office. Yeah,

441
00:20:32,573 --> 00:20:37,333
Speaker 2: and then like people do it? Bobby did it? Huh?

442
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Speaker 1: Well, his defense has been really good in Denver, so

443
00:20:41,013 --> 00:20:44,013
Speaker 1: maybe very good. No, that'd be another n maybe Steelers

444
00:20:44,053 --> 00:20:45,693
Speaker 1: looking to him. All right, what were the other ones?

445
00:20:45,813 --> 00:20:50,613
Speaker 1: Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator for the Rams. They literally

446
00:20:51,533 --> 00:20:56,653
Speaker 1: they just belt out Shoela's whose kid is this?

447
00:20:55,933 --> 00:20:55,973
Speaker 4: Is?

448
00:20:56,053 --> 00:21:02,413
Speaker 1: This? Is this? Mike's kid? Doesn't say here, but McVeigh

449
00:21:02,413 --> 00:21:05,293
Speaker 1: assistants go like, so you got Don and he had

450
00:21:05,293 --> 00:21:09,933
Speaker 1: a kid named Mike, and I think another kid named Biff. Uh,

451
00:21:10,253 --> 00:21:14,733
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them. He's the son of Dave Day.

452
00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:19,333
Speaker 1: There's a Day. So this is this is a Shoela grandson. Now,

453
00:21:19,413 --> 00:21:23,292
Speaker 1: none of the Shoelas have been good except Donald, but

454
00:21:23,413 --> 00:21:25,893
Speaker 1: you just kind of keep giving a Shoela Chad Blood

455
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Speaker 1: to do? What go five hundred football? Okay? All right,

456
00:21:30,733 --> 00:21:31,293
Speaker 1: so who else?

457
00:21:32,613 --> 00:21:36,253
Speaker 3: Jeff Halfley, the defensive coordinator for the Packers that won him.

458
00:21:36,413 --> 00:21:38,532
Speaker 3: Matt Naggi, the offensive coordinator.

459
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Speaker 2: He's also on our list him.

460
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Speaker 3: Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator for the Bills, famously with

461
00:21:44,413 --> 00:21:46,933
Speaker 3: the LSU Tigers and Joe Burrow when they won the

462
00:21:47,013 --> 00:21:47,773
Speaker 3: national championship.

463
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Speaker 1: So Joe Brady's interesting because he's had a lot of

464
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Speaker 1: success in the NFL, but he kind of got run

465
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Speaker 1: out of college to go and then did really well

466
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Speaker 1: with the Bills, So that would be an interesting one.

467
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Speaker 3: And then who else Robert Salah as we mentioned Jesse Mentor,

468
00:22:03,213 --> 00:22:05,253
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator for the Chargers.

469
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Speaker 1: Is that Nuclear Mentors on? I don't know.

470
00:22:08,453 --> 00:22:11,292
Speaker 2: I think do we make have we talked about this

471
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Speaker 2: from having deja vu because I've been calling Jeff Nuclear

472
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Speaker 2: not knowing anything about him. A little Kentucky connection.

473
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Speaker 1: There, jesse Mentor how many Mentors? Uh? Well, okay, who else?

474
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Speaker 1: He is? The son of Nuclear Rick Mentor? His family

475
00:22:29,173 --> 00:22:34,653
Speaker 1: is just like coming like Nascar, everybody's a boat on.

476
00:22:38,493 --> 00:22:43,133
Speaker 1: There are names where if you have it mentioned four

477
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Speaker 1: names that have family members, Well, here's another one, Clint

478
00:22:46,973 --> 00:22:55,733
Speaker 1: Kubiak another what in the world is happening? Like, come on,

479
00:22:56,013 --> 00:22:59,933
Speaker 1: they've they've got Okay, then it's gonna be Frank Walsh.

480
00:23:00,373 --> 00:23:02,733
Speaker 1: They just keep you keep coming here with this stuff.

481
00:23:03,053 --> 00:23:04,013
Speaker 1: Bob Belichick.

482
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Speaker 2: Another name you haven't said you have, Billy. I don't

483
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Speaker 2: know if you gonna get to it. But Jason Garrett's

484
00:23:07,613 --> 00:23:10,133
Speaker 2: name is still floating around. Jason Garry.

485
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Speaker 1: I mean, can I make the case for Jason Garrett?

486
00:23:12,253 --> 00:23:13,173
Speaker 1: What's he done wrong?

487
00:23:14,213 --> 00:23:16,453
Speaker 2: He won for you guys, so he didn't And I

488
00:23:16,453 --> 00:23:18,213
Speaker 2: met him at airport at six am when no one

489
00:23:18,253 --> 00:23:20,093
Speaker 2: wants to talk, and he wanted to talk so much.

490
00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,813
Speaker 2: Me and my wife couldn't get away from that's really

491
00:23:21,853 --> 00:23:24,133
Speaker 2: stuck with you. You you bring that up a lot. You,

492
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Speaker 2: I think, have some Jason Garrett. Why not make him

493
00:23:26,493 --> 00:23:28,453
Speaker 2: your time? I just mean him friendly. I mean him

494
00:23:28,453 --> 00:23:30,333
Speaker 2: from a friendly way. A lot of people will be like, hey, hey,

495
00:23:30,413 --> 00:23:32,253
Speaker 2: nice to met just six Sam, don't talk. No, he's like,

496
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Speaker 2: what do you think of the Derby this year? Who's

497
00:23:34,253 --> 00:23:34,693
Speaker 2: your horse?

498
00:23:34,773 --> 00:23:37,173
Speaker 1: And so? Just a very friendly guy. But so have.

499
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Speaker 4: Nuclear Mentor's kid. We have Kobiak who is the next one?

500
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Speaker 4: Is that all for this list? All we have left

501
00:23:44,253 --> 00:23:46,773
Speaker 4: is Arthur Smith and Kevin Stefanski. So those are so

502
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Speaker 4: for me.

503
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Speaker 1: If I have a team. I'm going all in on Kevin.

504
00:23:49,973 --> 00:23:51,533
Speaker 1: If I can't get Mike Tom and the coach, I'm

505
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Speaker 1: going all in on Kevin Stefanski. I oddly kind of

506
00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:58,773
Speaker 1: like Joe Brady as a possibility. And then maybe it's

507
00:23:58,853 --> 00:24:01,933
Speaker 1: time to give advanced Joseph another ride. You and Broncos

508
00:24:02,013 --> 00:24:04,213
Speaker 1: liked him enough to bring him back in the building.

509
00:24:04,253 --> 00:24:06,133
Speaker 2: Says a life. Someone will rehire you.

510
00:24:06,293 --> 00:24:10,613
Speaker 1: Yeah, that alone, watch you back in the building. I

511
00:24:10,653 --> 00:24:12,052
Speaker 1: am a let me tell you what. I'm of the

512
00:24:12,093 --> 00:24:16,453
Speaker 1: belief you're gonna hear this theory as we get closer

513
00:24:16,453 --> 00:24:20,572
Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft in April. My NFL Draft theory,

514
00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:23,853
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna test this out this April. This is

515
00:24:23,853 --> 00:24:26,693
Speaker 1: gonna be a scientific test, and we're gonna play out.

516
00:24:26,693 --> 00:24:28,413
Speaker 1: It's gonna take years to play out, but we're doing

517
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Speaker 1: it the same. Okay, what happens if you interview No

518
00:24:32,533 --> 00:24:36,292
Speaker 1: One and you watch No One play, and you just

519
00:24:36,453 --> 00:24:40,773
Speaker 1: pick based on the rankings. Okay, you've heard me say

520
00:24:40,773 --> 00:24:45,133
Speaker 1: this before. They spend all this time, they have everybody

521
00:24:45,173 --> 00:24:48,052
Speaker 1: sprinting their undies, and they have everybody lift weights and

522
00:24:48,093 --> 00:24:50,133
Speaker 1: pick up cones and throw them at each other, and

523
00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:51,893
Speaker 1: then you interview them, and you ask them you know

524
00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:54,693
Speaker 1: what happened when your mom didn't give you a Warrios?

525
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Speaker 1: And then you try to act like you know who

526
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Speaker 1: to pick. And I've always had the view, what if

527
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Speaker 1: we just ignored all of that and I just took

528
00:25:01,853 --> 00:25:08,372
Speaker 1: Todd McShay and mel Kiper and Mike Tannenbaum's ratings and

529
00:25:08,453 --> 00:25:11,213
Speaker 1: I just use that, and that's how I picked. And

530
00:25:11,253 --> 00:25:14,213
Speaker 1: I never talked to any of these people. Save you

531
00:25:14,213 --> 00:25:16,532
Speaker 1: a lot of money, save you a ton of money,

532
00:25:16,573 --> 00:25:19,413
Speaker 1: and I'm going to go further. I think you would

533
00:25:19,453 --> 00:25:23,933
Speaker 1: be as successful, if not more successful, than the mean.

534
00:25:24,453 --> 00:25:29,093
Speaker 1: So we're just copying homework. Yes, you all do the homework. Well,

535
00:25:29,213 --> 00:25:32,532
Speaker 1: why do I need to do because when you watch

536
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Speaker 1: the draft, it generally follows, you know, not exactly, but

537
00:25:36,533 --> 00:25:40,533
Speaker 1: the ballpark of the mock drafts, right, yeah, casual surprises,

538
00:25:40,573 --> 00:25:43,853
Speaker 1: but nothing major use of the surprises don't work right.

539
00:25:43,973 --> 00:25:46,293
Speaker 1: Likely Usually they'll pick like remember when the Raids picked

540
00:25:46,293 --> 00:25:48,493
Speaker 1: the fat guy from Alabama on the offensive line, like

541
00:25:48,493 --> 00:25:51,493
Speaker 1: three rounds too early and it didn't work right. Where

542
00:25:51,493 --> 00:25:54,532
Speaker 1: every time the Titans draft, I would say, do a

543
00:25:54,653 --> 00:25:59,613
Speaker 1: draft where all you do is copy Todd McShay and

544
00:25:59,693 --> 00:26:02,453
Speaker 1: mel Kiper's homework. So then when it was my turn,

545
00:26:04,093 --> 00:26:07,133
Speaker 1: I just looked and said, he feels like the right guy.

546
00:26:08,213 --> 00:26:10,893
Speaker 1: Or and then in five years, let's see who has

547
00:26:10,893 --> 00:26:11,933
Speaker 1: the best draft class.

548
00:26:12,093 --> 00:26:14,453
Speaker 2: Well like NFL dot Com during the draft will have

549
00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:17,453
Speaker 2: the best available. I just I just pull up my phone.

550
00:26:17,453 --> 00:26:19,292
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, let's see who's the best fake I

551
00:26:19,373 --> 00:26:22,773
Speaker 1: draft my fantasy take. Oh you want an auto draft

552
00:26:22,973 --> 00:26:26,653
Speaker 1: the actual draft. I think there's an argument that the

553
00:26:26,693 --> 00:26:28,532
Speaker 1: only thing I would do is I was looking at

554
00:26:28,573 --> 00:26:31,173
Speaker 1: my roster and see what I need. Okay, so I

555
00:26:31,253 --> 00:26:33,613
Speaker 1: might say, okay, even though that guy's higher, I don't

556
00:26:33,653 --> 00:26:37,773
Speaker 1: need that position. But then kind of auto draft or

557
00:26:38,093 --> 00:26:41,253
Speaker 1: look and go at the end of the day, McShane

558
00:26:41,293 --> 00:26:44,493
Speaker 1: knows more about this than we do. What does he think.

559
00:26:45,493 --> 00:26:48,052
Speaker 1: I genuinely believe you probably wouldn't end up with the

560
00:26:48,093 --> 00:26:51,133
Speaker 1: best draft class, but I bet you wouldn't end up

561
00:26:51,173 --> 00:26:54,373
Speaker 1: with the worst. I love the idea of auto drafting.

562
00:26:54,933 --> 00:26:57,572
Speaker 2: When it happens in fantasy, everybody gets mad because the

563
00:26:57,573 --> 00:27:00,653
Speaker 2: clock goes all down. Yeah, you're upsetting all your your

564
00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:02,853
Speaker 2: competitors because you're on the whole clock. You're like, oh,

565
00:27:02,893 --> 00:27:05,572
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and April can't make it. Sorry, y'all draft without me,

566
00:27:05,613 --> 00:27:06,093
Speaker 2: I'll be auto.

567
00:27:06,213 --> 00:27:09,373
Speaker 1: You and I were in the war room. If you

568
00:27:09,413 --> 00:27:13,532
Speaker 1: and when they go to the war room, you and

569
00:27:13,573 --> 00:27:20,092
Speaker 1: I would be like drinking playing video games some gms

570
00:27:20,093 --> 00:27:21,893
Speaker 1: that already do that. No, but I mean like you

571
00:27:21,973 --> 00:27:25,133
Speaker 1: and I would make it very clear we're not paying attention.

572
00:27:26,053 --> 00:27:28,532
Speaker 1: Oh we're up. I didn't know we're up. No. I

573
00:27:28,533 --> 00:27:33,413
Speaker 1: would just go, Jeeves, Jeeves, we're asking Jeeves. You tell

574
00:27:33,533 --> 00:27:37,373
Speaker 1: me one minute before and I'll quickly look and see

575
00:27:38,533 --> 00:27:43,013
Speaker 1: he feels good. I bet you, billy, you would do

576
00:27:43,053 --> 00:27:45,532
Speaker 1: better than most teams. I think. I think it's all

577
00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:48,133
Speaker 1: a waste of money. The NBA is even more like this.

578
00:27:48,853 --> 00:27:51,572
Speaker 1: The NBA hires these old men to travel around the

579
00:27:51,573 --> 00:27:54,133
Speaker 1: country and watch basketball games. They get the same stats

580
00:27:54,133 --> 00:27:56,573
Speaker 1: I can hold, and by the way the game's on TV,

581
00:27:56,733 --> 00:27:58,893
Speaker 1: I can see it all right. I said by some

582
00:27:58,933 --> 00:28:01,133
Speaker 1: of these scouts that most of them are just there

583
00:28:01,173 --> 00:28:03,733
Speaker 1: for the free food, not a lot of scouting getting.

584
00:28:03,853 --> 00:28:06,493
Speaker 1: And then they have one pick, you know, I have

585
00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:09,093
Speaker 1: like the six pick in the draft, and they'll go,

586
00:28:10,533 --> 00:28:16,333
Speaker 1: I'll pick the guy from Duke, And then the whole

587
00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:21,092
Speaker 1: scouting staff collapse and I'm like, none of you people,

588
00:28:21,253 --> 00:28:25,053
Speaker 1: all of you are stealing money. Sounds like as an owner,

589
00:28:25,093 --> 00:28:27,532
Speaker 1: you would hire AI as your GM. I would just

590
00:28:27,653 --> 00:28:30,133
Speaker 1: pick it. Well. I wouldn't want to get blamed, so

591
00:28:30,133 --> 00:28:32,013
Speaker 1: I'd have you as the fall guy.

592
00:28:32,173 --> 00:28:34,213
Speaker 2: So the problem is some of these gms, they get

593
00:28:34,213 --> 00:28:35,853
Speaker 2: the job and they want to out smart.

594
00:28:35,973 --> 00:28:39,133
Speaker 1: No one's out no one's smart. Like Bill Belichick was

595
00:28:39,173 --> 00:28:42,453
Speaker 1: supposedly the best at this and in North Carolina he

596
00:28:42,533 --> 00:28:46,853
Speaker 1: has a team that can't beat anyone, which just shows

597
00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:50,613
Speaker 1: everybody's the same. Now. I do think, by the way,

598
00:28:50,613 --> 00:28:54,373
Speaker 1: there's difference in coaching, but when it comes to picking

599
00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:57,213
Speaker 1: the draft, now, I will say there's talent and like

600
00:28:57,293 --> 00:29:01,093
Speaker 1: the undrafted players and all that, like, that's different. But

601
00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:03,733
Speaker 1: if you're just talking about the first three rounds of

602
00:29:03,773 --> 00:29:07,733
Speaker 1: the draft, Todd McShay, well, Belichick's hit rate wasn't great

603
00:29:07,773 --> 00:29:10,173
Speaker 1: in the draft either. I mean, besides thank you, their

604
00:29:10,253 --> 00:29:12,853
Speaker 1: they're brilliance was they'd find the guy who played it

605
00:29:12,973 --> 00:29:15,773
Speaker 1: like East Potato State and bring him in. I will

606
00:29:15,773 --> 00:29:18,893
Speaker 1: grant you they'll do that better than me. But when

607
00:29:18,893 --> 00:29:21,173
Speaker 1: it comes to top guys, I'm of the boy you've

608
00:29:21,173 --> 00:29:24,493
Speaker 1: watched who wants to be a millionaire. I have not recently,

609
00:29:24,533 --> 00:29:29,053
Speaker 1: but I have what is the best uh thing? You have?

610
00:29:30,093 --> 00:29:34,253
Speaker 1: No asking to ask the auto It's always correct. The

611
00:29:34,413 --> 00:29:39,693
Speaker 1: collective intelligence is always smarter than the individual. Well, my

612
00:29:39,733 --> 00:29:43,293
Speaker 1: phone friend is gonna be Todd McShane, Todd, we'll be picking.

613
00:29:43,933 --> 00:29:46,093
Speaker 1: So so we're gonna test this at the draft. We're

614
00:29:46,093 --> 00:29:48,373
Speaker 1: gonna drive of a hat and I'm gonna have the

615
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:50,933
Speaker 1: team that's mine, okay, And every time we come up

616
00:29:50,973 --> 00:29:54,293
Speaker 1: on the clock, I'm gonna go, alright, we need to

617
00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:54,773
Speaker 1: running back.

618
00:29:55,613 --> 00:29:59,213
Speaker 4: Hey, Todd, we've got Yeah, it's he's good, the guy

619
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Speaker 4: from bit There you go. We'll wait five years and

620
00:30:01,733 --> 00:30:03,173
Speaker 4: we'll see and in five years we.

621
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Speaker 1: Will compare my draft class to everyone else. Have a

622
00:30:06,333 --> 00:30:08,013
Speaker 1: first round pick? Where are seventh that we need an

623
00:30:08,013 --> 00:30:11,013
Speaker 1: offensive tackle? All right? One second? Nfl dot Com best

624
00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:13,573
Speaker 1: field tackle, Go on that one. I'm gonna go with him,

625
00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:18,573
Speaker 1: all right, see on two days. Don't care what his

626
00:30:18,573 --> 00:30:21,173
Speaker 1: mom did it toatorios away. See that's where care if

627
00:30:21,173 --> 00:30:23,533
Speaker 1: he knows what seven times seven is that. There are

628
00:30:23,573 --> 00:30:27,213
Speaker 1: scientific studies. This is not just you're looking at me

629
00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:30,733
Speaker 1: like I'm crazy. There are scientific studies that show that

630
00:30:31,613 --> 00:30:36,853
Speaker 1: companies do a better job interviewing people hiring people with

631
00:30:36,933 --> 00:30:43,453
Speaker 1: no interviews because when you and I talk, my biases

632
00:30:43,533 --> 00:30:47,013
Speaker 1: come into place. So like there's a whole field of

633
00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:50,573
Speaker 1: research on this that, like, you know, we tend to

634
00:30:50,653 --> 00:30:54,133
Speaker 1: look for people like us just because we think we're awesome,

635
00:30:54,933 --> 00:30:57,493
Speaker 1: and we skip over other candidates that are not like

636
00:30:57,653 --> 00:31:00,373
Speaker 1: us because we can't relate to him. So you see it,

637
00:31:00,453 --> 00:31:03,933
Speaker 1: like with race and gender and etcter, like people will

638
00:31:04,253 --> 00:31:06,613
Speaker 1: a white person might not hire a black it because

639
00:31:06,613 --> 00:31:08,933
Speaker 1: they can't relate to him, even though that person would

640
00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:10,813
Speaker 1: be better than the white candidate. But you just happened

641
00:31:10,893 --> 00:31:15,213
Speaker 1: to seem yourself in them. Does that make sense? It does.

642
00:31:15,253 --> 00:31:17,813
Speaker 3: Like I walk in with my NFL hat. You're a

643
00:31:17,893 --> 00:31:19,613
Speaker 3: big fan of the NFL, so you might hire me

644
00:31:19,653 --> 00:31:20,613
Speaker 3: more than the other person.

645
00:31:21,093 --> 00:31:24,693
Speaker 1: But that's a stupid analysis. But yeah, but the point

646
00:31:24,693 --> 00:31:26,533
Speaker 1: would be just you wearing that hat doesn't mean you're

647
00:31:26,573 --> 00:31:30,253
Speaker 1: good at the job. So the point is that a

648
00:31:30,253 --> 00:31:33,013
Speaker 1: lot of companies are taking the view don't interview anybody,

649
00:31:33,653 --> 00:31:36,653
Speaker 1: just go on the objective measurements, and you got a

650
00:31:36,693 --> 00:31:38,733
Speaker 1: better chance of being successful than if you start trying

651
00:31:38,733 --> 00:31:39,373
Speaker 1: to talk to people.

652
00:31:39,573 --> 00:31:41,893
Speaker 2: But to Billie's point, if I worked for Liberty Mutual

653
00:31:41,893 --> 00:31:43,493
Speaker 2: and I'm an NFL fan. He comes to the interview

654
00:31:43,493 --> 00:31:45,973
Speaker 2: wearing that hat, naturally, gonna, well, it's.

655
00:31:45,813 --> 00:31:48,693
Speaker 1: Time for the victory bundle presented by a Mutual. No,

656
00:31:48,773 --> 00:31:50,733
Speaker 1: it's not time yet. I just wanted to felt like

657
00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:54,253
Speaker 1: a good teese. It was an ad tease. So anyways,

658
00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:59,413
Speaker 1: tick around. Well, that's our coaching updates, and good luck

659
00:31:59,453 --> 00:32:01,093
Speaker 1: to all the candidates. By the time we come back

660
00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:03,533
Speaker 1: next week, I'm dressed like Mike McDaniel. You think any

661
00:32:03,533 --> 00:32:07,413
Speaker 1: of these people are working on Kurt Signetti. Oh, because

662
00:32:07,653 --> 00:32:11,493
Speaker 1: it's weird that no one's hired their coach. Yeah, any

663
00:32:11,573 --> 00:32:14,253
Speaker 1: week and a half, and you know, the only one

664
00:32:14,293 --> 00:32:16,493
Speaker 1: fit that it's been hired is the most obvious case

665
00:32:16,493 --> 00:32:19,173
Speaker 1: when the Raiders do that and then get Mendoza. I

666
00:32:19,173 --> 00:32:22,773
Speaker 1: think any team should try it, outside of if you

667
00:32:22,813 --> 00:32:29,373
Speaker 1: can't get Hardball or Tomin or maybe Stefansk. I would

668
00:32:29,453 --> 00:32:35,453
Speaker 1: hire Kurt Signify. Why not? He was smart and he

669
00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:40,173
Speaker 1: clearly wins with just random guys. Why couldn't Why not?

670
00:32:40,573 --> 00:32:43,053
Speaker 2: Well, the only hiccup would be the the way he

671
00:32:43,093 --> 00:32:46,613
Speaker 2: coaches and the random guys. Would that work with the millionaires?

672
00:32:46,813 --> 00:32:47,293
Speaker 1: Google man?

673
00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:50,213
Speaker 2: But he is he has millionaires? Now google him. It's

674
00:32:50,213 --> 00:32:50,813
Speaker 2: true Google.

675
00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,453
Speaker 1: Have you googled? Oh, I'm not against it. I say

676
00:32:53,453 --> 00:32:55,693
Speaker 1: give it a shot, and if I'm somebody like the Raiders,

677
00:32:56,133 --> 00:32:58,413
Speaker 1: then I definitely do it. I might go all in

678
00:32:58,533 --> 00:32:58,933
Speaker 1: you on that.

679
00:32:59,253 --> 00:33:01,773
Speaker 2: And you have to worry about him getting distracted in Vegas.

680
00:33:01,773 --> 00:33:03,093
Speaker 2: That doesn't look like a guy you're gonna catch.

681
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,253
Speaker 1: Vega's not going to be at the strip club.

682
00:33:05,493 --> 00:33:07,693
Speaker 2: He might go to the some of those five PM

683
00:33:07,773 --> 00:33:08,733
Speaker 2: residency shows.

684
00:33:08,773 --> 00:33:12,693
Speaker 1: And back to the film. We wouldn't go see Wayne Newton, Wayne.

685
00:33:12,453 --> 00:33:15,213
Speaker 2: Newton, who's the big, the big George Wallace comedians, he's

686
00:33:15,213 --> 00:33:15,693
Speaker 2: still around.

687
00:33:15,853 --> 00:33:18,333
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would go see George Walla noon because they

688
00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:21,973
Speaker 1: have a free book, The Amazing Jonathan. But I don't

689
00:33:22,013 --> 00:33:24,653
Speaker 1: think he is gonna do anything like obviously it was

690
00:33:24,653 --> 00:33:26,933
Speaker 1: a distraction to Pe Caroll Gino Smith. That didn't work.

691
00:33:27,933 --> 00:33:28,813
Speaker 1: Sig would be locked in.

692
00:33:28,853 --> 00:33:31,493
Speaker 2: You think Carroll was out he went to the nine

693
00:33:31,493 --> 00:33:32,533
Speaker 2: PM George Wallace.

694
00:33:32,853 --> 00:33:35,973
Speaker 1: Oh dude, you can't do that. That's way too late. Yeah,

695
00:33:36,093 --> 00:33:50,853
Speaker 1: all right, that's what I would do. All right, let's

696
00:33:50,853 --> 00:33:56,013
Speaker 1: go to the playoff games Saturday. Your first game, I

697
00:33:56,053 --> 00:33:58,533
Speaker 1: believe is it? Is it the Buffalo game. It is

698
00:33:59,333 --> 00:34:03,453
Speaker 1: Buffalo versus Denver. I actually think this is oddly it's

699
00:34:03,453 --> 00:34:04,973
Speaker 1: odd to mean this is the first game. Is actually

700
00:34:04,973 --> 00:34:07,053
Speaker 1: think this is the best game. I'm shocked this is

701
00:34:07,053 --> 00:34:11,252
Speaker 1: the four thirty Saturday, but I like it. I think

702
00:34:11,293 --> 00:34:13,292
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a battle. I think the winner of

703
00:34:13,293 --> 00:34:16,772
Speaker 1: this game wins the AFC. So who's it going to be?

704
00:34:18,212 --> 00:34:20,412
Speaker 2: This is also the closest spread of all the games, too,

705
00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:22,732
Speaker 2: shows that the Desert thinks this is gonna be the

706
00:34:22,772 --> 00:34:26,813
Speaker 2: better game too. I picked against the Bills in Jacksonville.

707
00:34:27,613 --> 00:34:31,973
Speaker 2: I'm not now, Josh Allen. This is the Yeah, there's

708
00:34:32,053 --> 00:34:35,013
Speaker 2: no Mahomes, there's no Lamar. You knocked off Trevor Wallace,

709
00:34:35,493 --> 00:34:38,133
Speaker 2: Go knock off Bonnicks. There's ever been a path. Even

710
00:34:38,133 --> 00:34:40,332
Speaker 2: though these guys have had great seasons, this is your

711
00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:42,813
Speaker 2: year to get it done. Trevor Wallace, Trevor Lawrence.

712
00:34:43,212 --> 00:34:45,292
Speaker 1: Justly true. I'm still caught on George Wallace trying to

713
00:34:45,332 --> 00:34:46,573
Speaker 1: think of who is Trevor Waller.

714
00:34:46,652 --> 00:34:49,613
Speaker 2: George Wallace is still but I mean, of all the years,

715
00:34:49,692 --> 00:34:51,133
Speaker 2: even though these are good teams, you're having to go

716
00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:53,013
Speaker 2: on the road. This isn't the stars that have been

717
00:34:53,013 --> 00:34:54,613
Speaker 2: in front of you. The last couple of years.

718
00:34:55,172 --> 00:34:58,652
Speaker 1: Picked Bills and Rams to start the season. I'm not

719
00:34:59,172 --> 00:35:02,013
Speaker 1: getting off the ship now, Bills and Rams in the

720
00:35:02,013 --> 00:35:03,652
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I'm going to be the first person in

721
00:35:03,652 --> 00:35:05,732
Speaker 1: the history of sports to get their Super Bowl pick right.

722
00:35:06,332 --> 00:35:12,093
Speaker 1: Never been done, did you know that? Never? It's a

723
00:35:12,093 --> 00:35:16,252
Speaker 1: surprising stat but never. Do you remember? The New York

724
00:35:16,292 --> 00:35:18,572
Speaker 1: Times ones tried to predict the final score of every

725
00:35:18,573 --> 00:35:22,532
Speaker 1: football game, and they Hunter S. Thompson, you know, yeah,

726
00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:25,212
Speaker 1: of course he was. He wrote for esp not Hunter

727
00:35:25,252 --> 00:35:28,933
Speaker 1: as Thompson. Excuse me, the guy whose brother was a

728
00:35:28,973 --> 00:35:34,493
Speaker 1: federal judge. Well something never mind. On the old ESPN

729
00:35:34,573 --> 00:35:37,812
Speaker 1: page two, they had this guy Easterbrook and he would

730
00:35:37,812 --> 00:35:40,453
Speaker 1: write Sunday Morning or Monday Morning Quarterback, and he was

731
00:35:40,533 --> 00:35:43,133
Speaker 1: kind of a smart, funny guy, and he kept tabs

732
00:35:43,252 --> 00:35:45,413
Speaker 1: for ten years to see if the New York Times

733
00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:48,252
Speaker 1: ever got the score actually right. And they never did,

734
00:35:48,372 --> 00:35:51,053
Speaker 1: not once, not once, not ever had they did they

735
00:35:51,093 --> 00:35:53,932
Speaker 1: ever get because they would pick the NFL exact score

736
00:35:53,973 --> 00:35:56,332
Speaker 1: and they never got it right. And his point was,

737
00:35:56,533 --> 00:36:03,453
Speaker 1: why do they do this? They never one time gotten

738
00:36:03,493 --> 00:36:07,493
Speaker 1: the score correct? Why do they do this? And I

739
00:36:07,493 --> 00:36:09,252
Speaker 1: think that's true. The Super Bowl. No one's ever gotten

740
00:36:09,252 --> 00:36:11,492
Speaker 1: a right. My favorite part of about the New York

741
00:36:11,533 --> 00:36:14,212
Speaker 1: Times when is like the scores were rarely.

742
00:36:13,893 --> 00:36:16,493
Speaker 2: Divisible three or seven. It would be like twenty six

743
00:36:16,652 --> 00:36:19,412
Speaker 2: to four. It's going to be the score. How are

744
00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:21,173
Speaker 2: they going to even get to that? Like they rarely

745
00:36:21,212 --> 00:36:23,332
Speaker 2: had like a twenty eight to twenty four or a

746
00:36:23,413 --> 00:36:25,133
Speaker 2: common football finish.

747
00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:28,732
Speaker 1: And then one time I remember gives Greg Easterbrook was

748
00:36:28,732 --> 00:36:32,573
Speaker 1: his name. One time it was within one point and

749
00:36:32,613 --> 00:36:35,812
Speaker 1: he said they should stop printing the newspaper because they

750
00:36:35,852 --> 00:36:36,932
Speaker 1: would never be that close.

751
00:36:36,933 --> 00:36:41,652
Speaker 2: To shut down the New York Times.

752
00:36:42,053 --> 00:36:44,333
Speaker 1: But I'm sticking pointed as I'm sticking with the Bills.

753
00:36:44,852 --> 00:36:47,252
Speaker 1: Josh Allen showed me last week why I'm picking him

754
00:36:47,692 --> 00:36:50,813
Speaker 1: comes down to the final possession. He goes and drives

755
00:36:50,812 --> 00:36:53,413
Speaker 1: and get the touchdown. Trevor Lawrence tho was the interception.

756
00:36:53,852 --> 00:36:55,932
Speaker 1: That's why I'm picking Josh Allen. Same thing will happen.

757
00:36:56,013 --> 00:36:59,693
Speaker 2: And I agree with you completely. Nick hasn't been great.

758
00:36:59,893 --> 00:37:01,813
Speaker 2: I feel like these young guys have to take their lumps.

759
00:37:01,933 --> 00:37:04,573
Speaker 2: Josh Allen has plenty of losses, plenty of heartbreak. I

760
00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:06,533
Speaker 2: think it was his experience in the play offs and

761
00:37:06,652 --> 00:37:08,692
Speaker 2: the hunger of getting so close to being in the

762
00:37:08,732 --> 00:37:10,493
Speaker 2: conversation every year, they gives him the edge.

763
00:37:11,332 --> 00:37:17,372
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers and Seahawks. Yeah, I mean the first

764
00:37:17,372 --> 00:37:19,772
Speaker 1: two games in this series have been very good. I

765
00:37:19,812 --> 00:37:22,772
Speaker 1: don't know what to do here because I don't know

766
00:37:24,332 --> 00:37:27,892
Speaker 1: which of these teams I trust less. I don't trust both.

767
00:37:28,172 --> 00:37:31,053
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I don't trust brock Perty totally, but I

768
00:37:31,093 --> 00:37:36,012
Speaker 1: also don't trust Sam Donald. I'm gonna pick the Seahawks

769
00:37:36,093 --> 00:37:37,772
Speaker 1: just because I think the forty nine Ers are so

770
00:37:38,453 --> 00:37:41,412
Speaker 1: banged up that that will make Sam Darnald get to

771
00:37:41,453 --> 00:37:45,012
Speaker 1: the championship game. So I will take the Seahawks. I'm

772
00:37:45,093 --> 00:37:47,492
Speaker 1: big on the Seahawks here. Forty nine Ers. It's been

773
00:37:47,533 --> 00:37:49,253
Speaker 1: a great run to get to where they are beating

774
00:37:49,252 --> 00:37:51,692
Speaker 1: Philly last week. With the injuries they've had, I mean,

775
00:37:51,692 --> 00:37:54,053
Speaker 1: they're just pulling people out of the park a lot

776
00:37:54,093 --> 00:37:56,372
Speaker 1: and asking them to go make plays. I think they

777
00:37:56,453 --> 00:37:57,892
Speaker 1: hit the end of the road here, even though they've

778
00:37:57,933 --> 00:37:59,613
Speaker 1: had two good games with the still entries.

779
00:37:59,692 --> 00:38:02,652
Speaker 2: Big Yeah, Seattle's defense, will they hold them to like

780
00:38:02,692 --> 00:38:05,573
Speaker 2: a field goal just two weeks ago? As much as

781
00:38:05,812 --> 00:38:08,893
Speaker 2: Darn's exciting and Jackson Smith and jig Ben that offense.

782
00:38:08,973 --> 00:38:11,292
Speaker 2: The defense has really been answering the bell lately, and

783
00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:12,852
Speaker 2: I think that's what we'll carry them.

784
00:38:13,133 --> 00:38:16,052
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next one. We've got

785
00:38:16,212 --> 00:38:18,652
Speaker 1: what you did? You pick the Seahawks two? Yes, oh

786
00:38:18,692 --> 00:38:23,652
Speaker 1: big big Patriots and Texans. Texans. What a bizarre game

787
00:38:23,652 --> 00:38:30,372
Speaker 1: Monday night. Five fumbles still dominate the game. Can you win?

788
00:38:30,613 --> 00:38:32,452
Speaker 1: This is the conversation we've always had, Can you win

789
00:38:32,493 --> 00:38:36,453
Speaker 1: a title with defense? Billy's answer is no, yes, Tampa

790
00:38:36,453 --> 00:38:39,452
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers two thousand and two. But Brad Johnson was

791
00:38:39,493 --> 00:38:43,172
Speaker 1: good that year. It's got to be the hair. Uh.

792
00:38:43,692 --> 00:38:45,292
Speaker 1: The Texans are putting that to the test. Who do

793
00:38:45,372 --> 00:38:47,452
Speaker 1: you like in this? One? Might be a snowstorm, by

794
00:38:47,453 --> 00:38:50,852
Speaker 1: the way, early weather reports say, could be a snowstorm.

795
00:38:51,332 --> 00:38:56,933
Speaker 2: Will you get a snowstorm? I'm room for snow. I

796
00:38:57,093 --> 00:38:58,973
Speaker 2: didn't think the Texans would get it done in Pittsburgh,

797
00:38:59,053 --> 00:39:00,852
Speaker 2: mistakenly bet on the forty two year old.

798
00:39:01,332 --> 00:39:02,332
Speaker 1: I think they go out here.

799
00:39:03,652 --> 00:39:06,372
Speaker 2: The defense is awesome, but they just need more the

800
00:39:06,413 --> 00:39:09,292
Speaker 2: offense to get over this next hope and into the

801
00:39:09,332 --> 00:39:10,292
Speaker 2: conference championship.

802
00:39:10,692 --> 00:39:15,532
Speaker 1: Will Anderson's beast, he's incredible. What is the spread New England?

803
00:39:15,573 --> 00:39:19,053
Speaker 1: Minus three, I'm seeing it's a good spread. I'm betting

804
00:39:19,093 --> 00:39:20,732
Speaker 1: that it's a good spread. Land the points.

805
00:39:20,893 --> 00:39:23,172
Speaker 3: Nintriots have only beaten like two teams with a winning

806
00:39:23,212 --> 00:39:23,812
Speaker 3: record this year.

807
00:39:23,852 --> 00:39:27,652
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Texans. I think c J. Stroud has

808
00:39:27,732 --> 00:39:29,613
Speaker 1: maybe a notch below Drake Mayb, but I think that

809
00:39:29,692 --> 00:39:32,972
Speaker 1: defense is excellent. If you can play as badly as

810
00:39:33,013 --> 00:39:36,613
Speaker 1: they did against the Steelers and still win and dominate,

811
00:39:37,332 --> 00:39:39,812
Speaker 1: then what if c J. Stroud just doesn't fumble the ball? Fight?

812
00:39:39,893 --> 00:39:42,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is something to get in your bad fluky

813
00:39:42,332 --> 00:39:43,812
Speaker 2: game out of the way, because that is an out

814
00:39:43,812 --> 00:39:45,332
Speaker 2: liar and they're not fumbling five.

815
00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:47,613
Speaker 1: They could have They could have scored forty points in

816
00:39:47,652 --> 00:39:50,292
Speaker 1: that game if they had just hailed on the ball. Definitely. Hey,

817
00:39:50,573 --> 00:39:53,292
Speaker 1: we don't know about Nico Collins though, right, yes it's

818
00:39:53,332 --> 00:39:56,732
Speaker 1: not a practice, not his practice as of Wednesday, But

819
00:39:56,772 --> 00:40:00,013
Speaker 1: they have not said that he's out yet, correct, so

820
00:40:01,292 --> 00:40:03,493
Speaker 1: that may mean it's close. I'm going to take the Texans.

821
00:40:03,493 --> 00:40:06,893
Speaker 1: Why not? And now let me say this, it's snowing

822
00:40:06,973 --> 00:40:08,692
Speaker 1: hard that I'm flipping to the Patriots.

823
00:40:08,812 --> 00:40:11,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dome team Houston going up there and all.

824
00:40:11,292 --> 00:40:14,093
Speaker 1: That snowing hard, I'm flipping this to the other way.

825
00:40:14,172 --> 00:40:15,252
Speaker 1: I'm still just a little better.

826
00:40:15,332 --> 00:40:17,812
Speaker 2: After a great weekend, Monday let me down a little

827
00:40:17,812 --> 00:40:19,492
Speaker 2: bit and I was excited as in my seat. And

828
00:40:19,533 --> 00:40:22,413
Speaker 2: this game was like seven to three in the third quarter.

829
00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter blew up a little bit, but it didn't

830
00:40:24,493 --> 00:40:26,172
Speaker 2: pack the punch at the other games of the weekend.

831
00:40:26,212 --> 00:40:30,053
Speaker 1: I did enjoy the fourth quarter. It was Peyton and

832
00:40:30,093 --> 00:40:33,693
Speaker 1: Eli and Roethlisberger on the Maning cast, and they really

833
00:40:33,812 --> 00:40:37,013
Speaker 1: just talked football like it was almost a straight football

834
00:40:37,053 --> 00:40:40,172
Speaker 1: talk and it was really really good like they I

835
00:40:40,172 --> 00:40:44,533
Speaker 1: thought they all balanced each other well, and I actually

836
00:40:44,573 --> 00:40:46,732
Speaker 1: thought it was really really good stuff. I've check that out.

837
00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:46,973
Speaker 1: You know.

838
00:40:47,372 --> 00:40:49,372
Speaker 2: Big Ben's another one we don't hear much from since

839
00:40:49,372 --> 00:40:53,452
Speaker 2: he's been gone. He had completely disappeared. He may have

840
00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:54,093
Speaker 2: had reasons.

841
00:40:54,212 --> 00:40:56,692
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from my wife's home town. He's a big celebrity.

842
00:40:56,893 --> 00:41:01,652
Speaker 1: Washington Courthouse, Finley, Ohio. It's big Ben country, big mural.

843
00:41:01,852 --> 00:41:03,613
Speaker 1: Why did I think you were from Washington or she

844
00:41:03,692 --> 00:41:07,292
Speaker 1: was from Washington Courthouse. I don't know the Ohio home

845
00:41:07,292 --> 00:41:10,772
Speaker 1: of Big Ben. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, Ohio, Washington's town.

846
00:41:11,933 --> 00:41:15,692
Speaker 1: I don't think you made up all right. Lastly, Bears

847
00:41:15,692 --> 00:41:21,373
Speaker 1: and Rams should be awesome Sunday night under the lights.

848
00:41:23,252 --> 00:41:28,012
Speaker 1: Caleb Stafford, this could be the highest rated playoff game

849
00:41:29,413 --> 00:41:35,412
Speaker 1: of the world. I'm gonna take the Rams. Well, let's

850
00:41:35,453 --> 00:41:38,252
Speaker 1: me say your super Bowl pick verse your I mean,

851
00:41:38,652 --> 00:41:40,133
Speaker 1: I get it. I want to be the first person

852
00:41:40,133 --> 00:41:43,053
Speaker 1: ever get the Super Bowl correct. But I'm still pulling

853
00:41:43,053 --> 00:41:45,133
Speaker 1: for the Bears. But I just I think the Rams

854
00:41:45,212 --> 00:41:48,452
Speaker 1: are are better and I think, you know, Bears have

855
00:41:48,493 --> 00:41:50,332
Speaker 1: had a lot of good fortune, and I think at

856
00:41:50,372 --> 00:41:51,532
Speaker 1: some point it has to run out.

857
00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:56,973
Speaker 2: I really liked you. I love both these teams. I

858
00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:58,892
Speaker 2: wish they weren't playing each other. I wish they were

859
00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:01,573
Speaker 2: separated and this were our NFC championship. That's what I

860
00:42:01,573 --> 00:42:04,013
Speaker 2: really want, because I also we're on the Rams before

861
00:42:04,013 --> 00:42:05,292
Speaker 2: the year, and I've been loving.

862
00:42:05,013 --> 00:42:06,133
Speaker 1: Your Bears for a while now.

863
00:42:07,453 --> 00:42:09,613
Speaker 2: I'm also going to take the Rams, though I thought

864
00:42:09,613 --> 00:42:14,613
Speaker 2: about it seeing them Carolina playing it close. That offense

865
00:42:14,652 --> 00:42:18,252
Speaker 2: has too many weapons. I give the slight edge to Stafford, but.

866
00:42:18,252 --> 00:42:20,613
Speaker 1: I will be rooting for your Bears. I'm on, I'm

867
00:42:20,652 --> 00:42:23,972
Speaker 1: rooting for him as well, but I do not think

868
00:42:23,973 --> 00:42:26,493
Speaker 1: they are going to win. Unfortunately. Can we get some

869
00:42:26,573 --> 00:42:28,053
Speaker 1: can we get some cold weather and some snow in

870
00:42:28,093 --> 00:42:30,053
Speaker 1: that one. It's night game. I think it's old. I

871
00:42:30,053 --> 00:42:32,093
Speaker 1: don't think it's in snow if I if I saw correct, I.

872
00:42:32,093 --> 00:42:33,452
Speaker 2: Know they're not playing the Packers, but I hope they

873
00:42:33,493 --> 00:42:34,892
Speaker 2: bring out the cheese graters again. That was just a

874
00:42:34,933 --> 00:42:37,372
Speaker 2: big part of the experience. Just keep that going. They

875
00:42:37,372 --> 00:42:40,412
Speaker 2: could take a ram horn and just whatever. Just keep

876
00:42:40,453 --> 00:42:41,133
Speaker 2: your happiness going on.

877
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:43,053
Speaker 1: I want to see your nails, so I'm going with

878
00:42:43,133 --> 00:42:45,252
Speaker 1: bears here. That's right, you patron nails are going to

879
00:42:45,292 --> 00:42:47,212
Speaker 1: be painted if we make the Super Bowl. And I

880
00:42:47,252 --> 00:42:50,133
Speaker 1: have a Sean McVay stat for you. Oh, Billy, I

881
00:42:50,172 --> 00:42:51,332
Speaker 1: love this one. This is on my note.

882
00:42:51,372 --> 00:42:54,732
Speaker 3: This is mcvay's fifteenth playoff game. It is the fifteenth

883
00:42:54,772 --> 00:42:56,253
Speaker 3: different team that he will be facing.

884
00:42:57,573 --> 00:43:01,013
Speaker 1: Hmm. That's a good stat. Almost impossible for him to

885
00:43:01,053 --> 00:43:04,692
Speaker 1: have that stat. Yeah, because he's only been to two

886
00:43:04,732 --> 00:43:09,172
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, right, which means he's played thirteen of the

887
00:43:09,252 --> 00:43:12,733
Speaker 1: sixteen NFC teams in the playoffs. That's kind of amazing.

888
00:43:12,852 --> 00:43:17,252
Speaker 1: I can't play yourself. Yeah, well, only two more than

889
00:43:17,292 --> 00:43:18,652
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that. That was my.

890
00:43:18,613 --> 00:43:20,573
Speaker 2: Favorite stat of the weekend, and that popped up. I

891
00:43:20,613 --> 00:43:22,533
Speaker 2: truly couldn't believe. I had to run to the computer

892
00:43:22,613 --> 00:43:23,013
Speaker 2: in confirm.

893
00:43:23,093 --> 00:43:25,013
Speaker 1: That's a great staff. All right, it's time for our

894
00:43:25,093 --> 00:43:29,852
Speaker 1: victory Bundle, presented by Liberty Mutual. Drew and I agreed

895
00:43:30,013 --> 00:43:33,053
Speaker 1: on three games, so we'll make those the bundle. Will

896
00:43:33,053 --> 00:43:37,093
Speaker 1: you pick the Seahawks. We picked the Rams and we

897
00:43:37,172 --> 00:43:40,813
Speaker 1: picked the Bills, so we will make it the Bills,

898
00:43:40,933 --> 00:43:44,292
Speaker 1: Seahawks and Rams. That is the Victory Bundle, presented by

899
00:43:44,372 --> 00:44:02,212
Speaker 1: Liberty Mutual. Start your quote at Libertymutual dot com. All right,

900
00:44:02,252 --> 00:44:05,892
Speaker 1: let's do our quarter our touchdown picks. What was the

901
00:44:05,893 --> 00:44:09,292
Speaker 1: five on total last week? Was three three zero? None

902
00:44:09,332 --> 00:44:12,492
Speaker 1: of us hit on the Monday night game. So Drew

903
00:44:12,493 --> 00:44:15,053
Speaker 1: gut zero right because he didn't have Kiren Willis.

904
00:44:15,413 --> 00:44:17,492
Speaker 2: Also I had I had two and you gave me zero.

905
00:44:17,533 --> 00:44:19,292
Speaker 2: I had Loveland, who scored for the Bears. I went

906
00:44:19,332 --> 00:44:22,573
Speaker 2: back and researched this. I had Kyen Williams and Colston Loveland.

907
00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:25,652
Speaker 2: Both of them had touchdown. I remember Couston Loveland scoring.

908
00:44:25,692 --> 00:44:27,493
Speaker 1: Did you have him? Yes? And Karen Willis.

909
00:44:27,573 --> 00:44:27,613
Speaker 3: No.

910
00:44:27,652 --> 00:44:29,812
Speaker 1: I had Karen Williams, but I think you know you

911
00:44:29,852 --> 00:44:32,133
Speaker 1: had Rico and Nico because we made a bit out

912
00:44:32,133 --> 00:44:35,412
Speaker 1: of it. Let's give him one, so it's three. I'll

913
00:44:35,413 --> 00:44:40,452
Speaker 1: take one made up zero three three one because because

914
00:44:40,493 --> 00:44:44,013
Speaker 1: if he had Loveland, I think he so I'm going

915
00:44:44,093 --> 00:44:46,732
Speaker 1: to play put the clip on times I think you

916
00:44:46,812 --> 00:44:50,812
Speaker 1: had likes. Well, No, we have an Australian listener who

917
00:44:50,812 --> 00:44:52,973
Speaker 1: wrote me and reminded me that I got kyd Williams.

918
00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:55,532
Speaker 2: I just said Rico o'dowdell didn't even have the right

919
00:44:55,533 --> 00:44:58,692
Speaker 2: team or the right running back.

920
00:44:58,732 --> 00:45:01,332
Speaker 1: Since Rico didn't even play for the Panthers. It was

921
00:45:01,493 --> 00:45:03,533
Speaker 1: two over all. Right, so let's go with this game.

922
00:45:04,053 --> 00:45:05,652
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, since he's doing so poorly.

923
00:45:06,692 --> 00:45:10,732
Speaker 3: My score in the Packers game, Okay, I'm such a

924
00:45:10,852 --> 00:45:13,053
Speaker 3: stop questioning my stats.

925
00:45:14,852 --> 00:45:16,572
Speaker 1: My big one is Kyen Williams.

926
00:45:16,573 --> 00:45:20,012
Speaker 3: Hold On, Coleston Loveland did not score in the damn game.

927
00:45:20,093 --> 00:45:22,332
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not. Actually hold On looked me in the eyes.

928
00:45:22,453 --> 00:45:25,772
Speaker 1: Didn't look me in the eyes to my game. He

929
00:45:25,812 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 1: looked me in the eyes and say, I didn't have

930
00:45:27,212 --> 00:45:29,812
Speaker 1: Karen Williams. You did not have Kyen Williams.

931
00:45:30,133 --> 00:45:32,212
Speaker 2: After this, I'm going to Twitter and I'm going to

932
00:45:32,252 --> 00:45:34,333
Speaker 2: put you under the table with the actual audio.

933
00:45:35,053 --> 00:45:36,692
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm gonna take a picture of you look at

934
00:45:36,692 --> 00:45:37,212
Speaker 1: me in the eyes.

935
00:45:37,332 --> 00:45:40,093
Speaker 2: This is Billy saying I didn't have Karen Williams, and

936
00:45:40,172 --> 00:45:42,413
Speaker 2: I am going to social media. I might go live

937
00:45:42,453 --> 00:45:45,572
Speaker 2: on TikTok and get random people to come here. How

938
00:45:45,613 --> 00:45:46,533
Speaker 2: wrong Billy was.

939
00:45:47,332 --> 00:45:50,212
Speaker 1: Just for the record, the anger with which Billy realized

940
00:45:50,252 --> 00:45:53,372
Speaker 1: there was no Colston Loveland. He had big catches, didn't

941
00:45:53,372 --> 00:45:54,692
Speaker 1: have a touch. I can believe that, and I didn't

942
00:45:54,692 --> 00:45:58,012
Speaker 1: remember that Williams. I said, trust Billy because Billy's clearly

943
00:45:58,093 --> 00:46:00,013
Speaker 1: proven to be one hundred percent accurate so far, I

944
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:04,652
Speaker 1: drew back to fourth. Let's let's let Drew go first

945
00:46:05,252 --> 00:46:08,852
Speaker 1: for the first game, which I guess is what Bill's broncos. Uh,

946
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:10,293
Speaker 1: Drew will let you go first.

947
00:46:11,212 --> 00:46:13,133
Speaker 2: So I can't pick the one I want because Billy's

948
00:46:13,133 --> 00:46:14,053
Speaker 2: not gonna give me credits.

949
00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:17,292
Speaker 1: I'll write it down right here. I'm gonna go with.

950
00:46:21,933 --> 00:46:28,053
Speaker 2: Dalton Kinkaid, and I'm gonna hope you write down Josh Allen, Doug.

951
00:46:27,933 --> 00:46:32,133
Speaker 1: Kink K's good pick. I was gonna go second. I'm

952
00:46:32,133 --> 00:46:37,412
Speaker 1: gonna go Josh Allen. So who do you want, Billy? Uh?

953
00:46:38,493 --> 00:46:42,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is tough. I think I'm gonna go James

954
00:46:42,613 --> 00:46:43,692
Speaker 3: Cook we're gonna go on.

955
00:46:43,933 --> 00:46:47,332
Speaker 1: No one's picking. No one's picking a Bronco. Okay, so

956
00:46:47,493 --> 00:46:50,252
Speaker 1: James Cook, those are all good picks, all right, So

957
00:46:50,292 --> 00:46:53,333
Speaker 1: let's go the next one. That is that night forty

958
00:46:53,453 --> 00:46:57,133
Speaker 1: nine Ers, uh and Seahawks. I guess I will go first,

959
00:46:57,613 --> 00:47:01,692
Speaker 1: and I will take McCaffrey. Who do you want, Billy? Uh?

960
00:47:04,013 --> 00:47:09,252
Speaker 2: Give me Jackson Smith and Jigba Okay. True, I will

961
00:47:09,252 --> 00:47:13,052
Speaker 2: go Kenneth Walker, but not just any Kenneth Walker, the

962
00:47:13,093 --> 00:47:15,013
Speaker 2: third in the lineage of Kenneth Walker.

963
00:47:16,692 --> 00:47:19,372
Speaker 1: If Kenneth Walker the second scores do not give him

964
00:47:19,493 --> 00:47:24,093
Speaker 1: credit for that, he does not. He wants the Kenneth Walker.

965
00:47:24,133 --> 00:47:29,772
Speaker 2: They see you write it down. I can't wait to

966
00:47:29,812 --> 00:47:31,013
Speaker 2: put this clip on Twitter.

967
00:47:31,013 --> 00:47:35,093
Speaker 1: All right, Patriots versus the Texans, BILLI you get to

968
00:47:35,093 --> 00:47:38,652
Speaker 1: go first. Give me Woody Marx. Woody Marx is the

969
00:47:39,332 --> 00:47:43,093
Speaker 1: is the pick for Billy? All right, Drew, I'm gonna

970
00:47:43,133 --> 00:47:48,412
Speaker 1: stay with my long shot picks, and I will say, yeah,

971
00:47:48,493 --> 00:47:50,093
Speaker 1: Diggs is a long shot. I'll be about plus to it.

972
00:47:50,212 --> 00:47:53,093
Speaker 1: I'll say Diggs, all right, Well, then I'll go with Drake.

973
00:47:53,172 --> 00:47:56,172
Speaker 1: May you all have given me Alan McCaffrey, and may

974
00:47:56,252 --> 00:47:57,212
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good? About it.

975
00:47:57,493 --> 00:48:00,053
Speaker 2: I don't get credit for him, so I gotta go

976
00:48:00,372 --> 00:48:00,812
Speaker 2: see him.

977
00:48:03,533 --> 00:48:06,292
Speaker 1: No, now, I'm worried about my team. All right, we'll

978
00:48:06,332 --> 00:48:09,573
Speaker 1: go to the final game Packers or not. Excuse me,

979
00:48:09,613 --> 00:48:11,652
Speaker 1: Bears and Rams Drew, you get to go first.

980
00:48:12,093 --> 00:48:16,292
Speaker 2: Colston Lovelin obviously, wow Bold stick with me, stick from

981
00:48:16,332 --> 00:48:16,732
Speaker 2: my pick.

982
00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:21,493
Speaker 1: I'll take Pooka. No, wait, give me Kyen Williams. What

983
00:48:21,533 --> 00:48:24,372
Speaker 1: am I doing? Can I both see?

984
00:48:24,372 --> 00:48:25,172
Speaker 2: This is what happens?

985
00:48:25,292 --> 00:48:27,452
Speaker 1: Yeah? So which one do you want? Do you want? No? Well,

986
00:48:27,453 --> 00:48:29,212
Speaker 1: I don't get credit for Williams, so I'll stick with

987
00:48:29,212 --> 00:48:31,332
Speaker 1: love one. All right, Then give me Pooka. Give me

988
00:48:31,413 --> 00:48:35,093
Speaker 1: Karen Williams, Man, I got no diversity. Every player I

989
00:48:35,133 --> 00:48:37,412
Speaker 1: have is very unlikely to get a touchdown. So you

990
00:48:37,453 --> 00:48:39,292
Speaker 1: got and you got Kyen Williams. Yeah all right. So

991
00:48:39,372 --> 00:48:43,292
Speaker 1: just for the record, everyone keeping score it home. Karen Williams,

992
00:48:44,133 --> 00:48:46,412
Speaker 1: I'm claiming it. If he scores, I'm coming in here.

993
00:48:46,933 --> 00:48:49,812
Speaker 1: I'm coming here Sunday, Karen Williams, Jersey. All right, So

994
00:48:49,852 --> 00:48:53,453
Speaker 1: there you go. Those are your touchdown picks. All right, well,

995
00:48:53,812 --> 00:48:57,452
Speaker 1: looking forward to the games. We'll go live. Although you

996
00:48:57,613 --> 00:48:59,613
Speaker 1: won't be able to know, you'll know when it comes out,

997
00:48:59,652 --> 00:49:02,172
Speaker 1: but we will do the show after the game on

998
00:49:02,212 --> 00:49:15,412
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, and fellas, thank you very much. NFL Covers

999
00:49:15,493 --> 00:49:17,813
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