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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Drake Mate joins us.

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Speaker 4: Right now, are you hearing all of the I don't

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Speaker 4: even want to call it criticism because it's not criticism.

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Speaker 4: Are you hearing all this love that you're getting? Like,

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Speaker 4: is this something you're aware of? Because everybody Gronkowski, Mark

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Speaker 4: Sanchez on the broadcast, everyone who talks about you is

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Speaker 4: just glowing terms these days?

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Speaker 3: Is that that must be nice? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Trying to read into much of that. I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: probably the biggest time I noticed is, you know, the

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Speaker 5: fan base on Sundays in the games, I think they've

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Speaker 5: been great. You know, we've been away games. Feel like

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Speaker 5: a lot of Pats fans that showed out. So I'm thinking,

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Speaker 5: you know, we try to help them out and put

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Speaker 5: some wins in the win Colum, I think that's the

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Speaker 5: biggest thing on you know, we need to do a

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Speaker 5: better job of But I think we're in some games

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Speaker 5: and you know, flud plays a few plays away from

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Speaker 5: having some more dubs in the wind call them.

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Speaker 2: But if we make you aware of it, if you

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Speaker 2: haven't heard somebody, like I know a lot of people

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Speaker 2: will be like, oh my mom sent something or my

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Speaker 2: brother sent something. Although with your brothers the other way right,

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Speaker 2: making fun of you. Does that type of positive reinforcement?

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Speaker 2: Does it drive you to be better?

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Speaker 2: How do how do you? How do you take positive reinforcement?

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Speaker 5: You know, I appreciate it. I think it's uh, especially

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Speaker 5: said Gronk said something like the next time I see

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Speaker 5: Ronk or hopefully meet them, you know sometime just you know,

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Speaker 5: thank him and appreciate it. I think you know more

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Speaker 5: of a it. Don't do too high when you know

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Speaker 5: you feel like you're playing well and don't get too

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Speaker 5: it's kind of a tough battle because you know, I

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Speaker 5: we're moving the ball offensively. I don't think it's turned

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Speaker 5: part out. But at the same time, I think we

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Speaker 5: flud plays away and the bummer really to you know,

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Speaker 5: how the you know, really the end of the games

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Speaker 3: Right, don't worry. We'll get to the end of the game.

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Speaker 4: you brought it up, so I feel like it's a

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Speaker 4: fair game now. Of course to talk about that throw

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Speaker 4: I heard you talking about it afterwards. What you saw

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Speaker 4: there and miscommunication is is how that was sort of classified.

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Speaker 4: How do you how do you get these kind of

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Speaker 5: and no nothing, no harm or no you know, bad

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Speaker 3: Like? Is that the solution? Like everybody needs to see

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Speaker 5: I try not to be that way, you know, I

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Speaker 3: The way the game started.

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Speaker 4: But the jump pass, that sort of side arm throw

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Speaker 5: At just playing different sports growing up, you know, play

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Speaker 2: There, early on, you were very accurate and it seemed

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Speaker 2: that was some people at criticisms about you know, short

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like improved as you've played more? Or

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Speaker 3: How's that work?

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Speaker 5: I have been, you know, pretty accurate pretty much. You know,

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Speaker 4: What thing or what aspect of your game do you

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Speaker 5: Uh gotten better of? I think just taking what defense

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Speaker 5: You got some plays like on Sunday where hey, we're

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Speaker 5: I do think there's a spot for that, you know.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, you probably heard about this over the

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Speaker 2: How are your mom's hands? You brought up that that

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Speaker 4: who asked, Drake, who is your favorite quarterback to watch

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Speaker 5: I grew up in Charlotte and I love the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, big tall quarterback, big arm mobile, that type

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Speaker 2: Along those lines. Did you get a chance to cross

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Speaker 2: He was one of those guys that was at the forefront.

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Speaker 2: And any of your coaches ever give you a hard

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Speaker 5: Knock on wood, not sorry, I didn't mean to. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we'll see some different stuff in my bag that hasn't

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Speaker 2: Oh I like the teaser, all right, I like that too,

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Speaker 4: So if you do throw behind the back touch down pass,

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Speaker 4: That's Drake May, quarterback of the Patriots. Thanks so much

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