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Speaker 1: Sis is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williams and Matt. It's a dingy, dinghy just that dreary,

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Speaker 1: dreary day here in Pittsburgh. Steelers losing fifteen on Sunday

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Speaker 1: night in Buffalo. That drops them to eleven and two

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Speaker 1: out of the first the top spot in the a

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Speaker 1: f C playoff race, just one game ahead now of

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, who improved to tenant three. We'll find

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Speaker 1: out what happens with the the a f C North tonight.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Cleveland hosting Baltimore of Cleveland wins that game,

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Speaker 1: their tenant three and then just a game behind, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers in the a f C North playoff race.

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Speaker 1: Steelers have clinched a playoff spot, that coming with the

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Speaker 1: loss earlier in the day by Miami on Sunday. But yeah, not.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was a strange game in that neither

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Speaker 1: team did a whole lot in the first half of

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Speaker 1: that game. Um, but the Steelers defense set them up

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Speaker 1: for an easy score. They and you know, they were

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Speaker 1: leading seven to three right before the half, and then

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger throws the inter set the pick six and just

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Speaker 1: completely changed the complexion of the game. It did, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the Steelers defense has aerved an

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Speaker 1: awful lot of credit in the first half too. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not even saying the Steeler's offense played that poorly,

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Speaker 1: but I really thought it was a tale of two halves.

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Speaker 1: And I just had this conversation with Mark Madden too.

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Speaker 1: I've had it with several people, and I keep hearing

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Speaker 1: and I'm not getting your case. Trust me that that

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Speaker 1: pick six changed the game. And of course it changed

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Speaker 1: the game, but that's an excuse to my opinion, they

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Speaker 1: got killed in the second half. You know, I just

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Speaker 1: thought he gave the Bills a spark without they didn't

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Speaker 1: have before. They were struggling to hold onto the football

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Speaker 1: quite frankly in the first half. Uh, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden they get the pick six, and it

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Speaker 1: was just like they were just you know, invigorated going

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Speaker 1: into the half. Yeah, I mean, it was a good

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Speaker 1: time for it too, and to get the ball back

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Speaker 1: and they got the ball to start to you know,

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Speaker 1: start the second half. I thought That was huge, just

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Speaker 1: momentum swing because to that point, Um, Josh Allen had

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Speaker 1: thrown an interception. He wasn't close on many of his throws.

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Speaker 1: His receivers weren't helping him. The receivers weren't helping him.

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Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs hadn't emerged. Yeah, he had three catches for

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Speaker 1: thirty eight yards in the first half. He really, you know,

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Speaker 1: on six targets. It wasn't like they ignored him. Um,

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Speaker 1: he just wasn't They weren't connecting. Uh, you know, Alan

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Speaker 1: fumbled one ball. Uh probably fumbled another one that that

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Speaker 1: Uh it was pretty close, so I mean they were

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Speaker 1: but yeah, they were getting pressure on him. He was

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Speaker 1: he was feeling flustered. Uh. And and and then they

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Speaker 1: got to pick six and all of a sudden they're

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Speaker 1: up nine seven and a half of which they were outplayed,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, well, you know, we're feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 1: If the Steelers go down. They were at the forty

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Speaker 1: five yard line. They're on forty five when that happened,

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Speaker 1: with fifty two seconds left, right, are a little over.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna probably get into field goal ranger probably. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a ten point swing in in a game

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Speaker 1: that was you know, ended up being an eleven point games. Agree,

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Speaker 1: And I'm probably dismissing the emotional human factor of it

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Speaker 1: and the spark like you said, and then you get

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Speaker 1: the ball and all that stuff. My point was just

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Speaker 1: the second half wasn't very competitive. And that's the second

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Speaker 1: week in a row, and I keep us going back

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Speaker 1: to fatigue. Well, there's no doubt that they looked like

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Speaker 1: a team in the second half of that game that

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Speaker 1: was playing on their third game in twelve days. And

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Speaker 1: the defense showed as good as it played in the

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Speaker 1: first half with all the the moving parts out there

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Speaker 1: and and and new guys in. At halftime, Buffalo made

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Speaker 1: the adjustments it needed that. Okay, now we're they came out,

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Speaker 1: they were throwing on on first downs, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to get five yards. And if they got five

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Speaker 1: yards and they were in good shape, they didn't get

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Speaker 1: And it it changed, just just changed the way they played.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that they did it was

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Speaker 1: always on first down, was the line to tight end back.

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Speaker 1: what side? Yeah, yeah, and they were chip him and

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Speaker 1: then and then the tight end would would slip out

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Speaker 1: into the into the flat and nobody got there. Like

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Speaker 1: they hit that twice and for two big plays in

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Speaker 1: the second half, and it was like cheepies, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of green grass around him. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I thought the most telling Obviously the pick six was huge.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing that. But I thought the most telling number,

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Speaker 1: or that spelled out the game perfectly to me, was

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Speaker 1: when they went into half, the time of possession was

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Speaker 1: basically eaten, and they lost time in possession by over

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Speaker 1: ten minutes. The Steelers had the ball for eight minutes

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Speaker 1: in the second half. They ran I believe sixteen plays

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Speaker 1: or nine and nineteen plays, and most of them were

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Speaker 1: in the one drive they all the other drives are

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Speaker 1: three and ounce yeah, and they were turning handball right over.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what defense you are, even if this

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Speaker 1: team had budden bush and was totally loaded, no injuries whatsoever,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna give up water late. I mean, you're just

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Speaker 1: out there too much. And that's just how this league is.

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Speaker 1: Let alone, when you're in the situation you are, I

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Speaker 1: don't put much fault at the defensive feet for this.

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't either, although they you know, they's

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Speaker 1: plays they could have gotten some stops. They allowing allowing

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Speaker 1: Buffalo to come out in the second half and get

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Speaker 1: too quick touchdowns because you're not a team at that point,

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Speaker 1: was killer, right. I Mean, it's different when it's late

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Speaker 1: in the fourth and it was guys falling down, you know,

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Speaker 1: some some tackles where they just throw a shoulder into

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Speaker 1: and and the other thing too. I know Alan was

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Speaker 1: the elements probably something to do with the passing game totally.

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Speaker 1: But I mean you were there. I wasn't, but it

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Speaker 1: super windy. But I thought Alan really played well in

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Speaker 1: the second half too. I Mean, it wasn't like the

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Speaker 1: Steelers stop pressuring him, you know, they still brought a

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Speaker 1: lot of heat. He stood in there, delivered the football,

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Speaker 1: showed a lot of mental tough this. Yeah he did,

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Speaker 1: and and the and the Bills did overall to to

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Speaker 1: you know, with with stand that early. I mean, again,

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Speaker 1: your your quarterback throws an interception, you'll lose a fumble

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Speaker 1: that I think. I don't know what their explanation was

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Speaker 1: stat guys for the Bills were like, oh, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: get changed to an interception. Yeah, people were worried about.

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Speaker 1: They weren't sure and I'm not sure because the ball

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Speaker 1: never hit the ground. I never hit the ground. It

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Speaker 1: was I think they just said he possessed it long enough,

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Speaker 1: like it was like a strip. Yeah. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that when they look at that on tape, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: that won't be turned to an interception bounced around, I

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Speaker 1: But anyways, they turned the ball over like that twice again.

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Speaker 1: Alan fumbles Um probably could have had another fumble there

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Speaker 1: on the on the on the corner. Blitz Um very

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Speaker 1: fortunate to come out of that first half with a

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Speaker 1: with a lead. Uh. You know, if the Steeler's offense

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Speaker 1: is doing what it should be doing, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: a seventeen three game something like that. Yeah, yeah is

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Speaker 1: what which is what? You know? Really it should have

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Speaker 1: been given everything I've played that we saw. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: you're right about that, But the pick six did happen,

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Speaker 1: and it was a bad throw by Ben and defenses

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Speaker 1: it comes down to it. It's not like this is

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Speaker 1: an isolated incident. I mean that's what everyone's gonna do

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Speaker 1: going forward, and we're seeing it more and more and more.

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Speaker 1: When they don't trust you, when they don't fear your

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Speaker 1: running game, and they want you to run the ball

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Speaker 1: and you don't anyway, and the only long balls you

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Speaker 1: do are go routes down the sidelines. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a large portion of the football field where they never attack.

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Speaker 1: It's the exactly I mean, it's almost the same situation

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Speaker 1: way Yeah, they were playing Devil and Hodges. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that, you know, I think what roethlisbergers seeing and

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Speaker 1: why they're not running the ball more were more effectively.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching this and I'm seeing ten guys

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Speaker 1: up there to stop passing game. But it's but it's

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Speaker 1: bogging down the run game. Yeah, I mean it it's football.

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Speaker 1: the deep ball though. Yeah, he's just they're not hitting

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Speaker 1: and until they do, I mean, you gotta prove me

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Speaker 1: otherwise before I stopped playing that way, right, you gotta

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Speaker 1: they getta hurt. They're gonna you know, even if it's

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Speaker 1: it's just you gotta hit one of those early in

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Speaker 1: safeties aren't going okay, I can just I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: crash the line of scrimmage here or I'm gonna jump this,

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Speaker 1: this quick slant or whatever it may be, this crossing route.

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Speaker 1: They don't worry about that right now. No, And the

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Speaker 1: drops are unexcusable over the last couple of weeks, although

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Speaker 1: was Deonte. I mean, I don't think that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a consistent thing. But the batted passes, the drops, those

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Speaker 1: sure there's something in Deonte's head he is the hips

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But you those are some of the when

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Speaker 1: this is the it's all. I mean, we we see

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Speaker 1: why that. You know, everybody well the offensive line camp

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Speaker 1: block and okay, yeah they haven't. They're not doing great, right,

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Speaker 1: But there were holes there early in that in that

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Speaker 1: first half, I thought that there were holes there. The

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Speaker 1: and make the correct cut or the holes gotta feel quickly.

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Speaker 1: variety of things. That's what Mike Tomlin was talking about

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson. And

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Speaker 1: on it because it was the third down play. All

426
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: three of the drops came on third downs. Was that

427
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 1: again changes the complexion of the game. Yea. Not only

428
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 1: they something that because you're playing the way the offense

429
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: you are, there's such a fine line, there's such a

430
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: no room for error. But if you're gonna drop, if

431
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: it's on first down, okay, it's second, right, but it's

432
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: on third down, their drive killers. And I don't know

433
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me, but sure seems like

434
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: that happened a lot against Washington as well and the

435
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: Ravens where someone cover some costly things the last couple

436
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: of weeks. To me, that stuff is flukey, you know,

437
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: like at least it's trending like they had I think

438
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: nine or ten drops against I think it was nine

439
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: against against Baltimore. When they cut it back to six,

440
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: I think five or six against Washington this week it

441
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: was three. Right, it's one guy. It's trending it. It's

442
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: one guy, and it's in his head. It's in his head.

443
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: But he's always the one that's kind of fantasy related.

444
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: Which stealer receiver should I start? Well, you can always

445
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: start the one because he's always gonna get his targets.

446
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: The other ones are all situational because he's the guy

447
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: that can get open on his own. Still, you know

448
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: what I mean when you have to play the entire

449
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 1: first half with your best guy sitting on the bench

450
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: because he can't catch the football, and I think you

451
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: had the bench them two. Yeah, there was no you

452
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: had no there was no report. You know you you

453
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: threatened it. Once you threatened that, once you open that

454
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: can of worms, you don't have to send you if

455
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: you don't bench him, what's that? What messages I say

456
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: to send everybody else? And it's not like you're putting

457
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: Ray Ray McCloud in his place, you know, by the way,

458
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: they I mean Abron sat most of that first half too.

459
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: He didn't play very much in the first half. Um,

460
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: so you'd already benched, you benched Ibron for the most part,

461
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 1: then you bench Deonte. Well, now you've only got so

462
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 1: many guys left to go to there. You know. So

463
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: people were worrying, well, why did Jayleen Samuels play so much? Well,

464
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: somebody has to play. I mean, here's the prediction. I

465
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: bet Deonte gets twelve the fifteen targets on Monday. Yeah,

466
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, because ben Ben has no problem going his way.

467
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: He feeds them targets time and time. He didn't play,

468
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: he barely played, barely play. He played the first two

469
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: series in the first half, is still finished with time

470
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: for the team high and targets with seven. Yeah, I

471
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: mean that's what he is. I mean he's gonna have

472
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: Westwalker had a lot of drops too, but he had

473
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: a Brazilion tar, right, you know. And there's something obviously

474
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: in Deante's head. I'm not super worried about it, like

475
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: career wise or next year or next week. The Steelers

476
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: are gonna drop tons of balls. It's one guy right now.

477
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: It was one bad day or you know, I guess

478
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: too bad day games before this one. If if this

479
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: game happens a week two. We're not talking about all

480
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: the drops, you know, it's something that's in our mind,

481
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: but it's in his mind. It's definitely in his mind.

482
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: And you could see it after he dropped the second

483
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: one and and he went over and just sat on

484
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: the bench and was just like he was four more. Yeah.

485
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that he has an answer

486
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: for it, you know, because so much of what he

487
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: does is catch the ball and run after the catch.

488
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: You know. It's almost like the old Seinfeld bit where

489
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: you know you take you've you've taken the reservation, but

490
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: you don't understand the keeping the reservation. You've you've you know,

491
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: you've gotten the ball in your hands for a second

492
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: and you're looking to run with it. But you've got

493
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: to catch. You've got to complete the catch first. And

494
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: you see it often, I mean, where guys take their

495
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: hands out, you're looking three moves ahead of the chess

496
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: player is opposed to do and the thing you have

497
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: to do to get to the chessboard. And I don't know.

498
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he has dropped over his career,

499
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: and I'd go back and watch his college. It was

500
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: that was something when he was coming out of Toledo. Well,

501
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: he'll drop some easy ones. And that's the thing you

502
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: see him make just ridiculous catches, right he does. And

503
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: this is something I've really noticed through the duration that

504
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: I've been doing this before is for a living, is

505
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: when I came into learning about receivers and how to

506
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: scout them and things like that. Drops were he he

507
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: has drops. People don't care as much anymore because they

508
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: throw so much. Drops are part of it. If you're

509
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: throwing about times a game and you have three drops,

510
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: we'll get it back next play. If you can make

511
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: a big play. If you're throwing it fifty times a

512
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: game and you have three drops, it's a much different thing.

513
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: But it's a very obvious thing for every fan to see.

514
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: How could he drop that? You know? Drops to me,

515
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have a negative as a receiver, that

516
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: sounds counter counter into because you obviously you have to

517
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: catch the football, But if you're a little bit high

518
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: on the drop scale, take it. Mikevans has a lot

519
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: of drops. I'll take his career. Des Bryant dropped the

520
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: ball like crazy. Um, it's almost like a short stop.

521
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: I like him do a short stop who who will

522
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: miss some groundballs, might boot one here and there, but

523
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: he also runs. You're gonna be You're gonna play that guy.

524
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: You'll play that guy, right. I mean he brings traits

525
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: the table that most don't have. Okay, I mean I

526
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: can put that hitting short stuff and he'll catch everything.

527
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: But we will get anything out of him? Yeah yeah right,

528
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: I mean big deal. That does how many runs as

529
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: he saved as opposed to what he produces? Yeah? Not enough? Yeah,

530
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: So I think you know, they need to get the one.

531
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: I think if you get Johnson's confidence back, and that's

532
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: what it is right now. So it's a confidence slash.

533
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Once that gets in your head. Now now it's you know,

534
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: it's like telling somebody, hey, to think about pink elephants. Well,

535
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: now you're thinking about a pink elephants, you know, So

536
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, you can't do that. You got

537
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: to get his confidence back. Yeah, You've got to get

538
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: that out of your head and move on from it,

539
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: which I expected to happen. I don't think he's Steve

540
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: Last all of a sudden, never gonna his career, you

541
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he's gonna find the play

542
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: it again he might be the best offensive player. You

543
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: could make the argument, yeah, he's the right now the

544
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: most important named ben. Yeah. Um, so they need to

545
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: get him back, uh doing you know, playing the way

546
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: that he's capable of playing. UM. Along those lines, this

547
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: quick question for you, do you have any theories on

548
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: clay Pool's snap counts going to dwindling a little bit

549
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: or usage. I think some of it is because he

550
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: and James Washington do the same things. Um, and James

551
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: has earned it. Yeah, right, he's he's making plays, but

552
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, to take him if you're taking Deante Johnson

553
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: off the field, um, and you're inserting James Washington, you

554
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: know again, you're only having so many guys run run

555
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: deep patterns that kind of So I think it's I

556
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: think that's affecting clay Pools. Not all receivers run. They're

557
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: lying in all the same positions and are all interchangeable.

558
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: As much as they say, hey we're gonna do you

559
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: know we're gonna you know, they they can play all

560
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: the positions, it doesn't mean that they all Just because

561
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: he's playing that position doesn't mean well, you know you're

562
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna throw a screens to James Washington. They

563
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: don't do that right, right, right right? You know they

564
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: haven't done that with him. I also have a I

565
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: don't say a theory, but I'm really starting to listen

566
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: because I believe the rookie walls a real thing. I mean,

567
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: we could go on takes me ten minutes to describe it,

568
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: but just think about the second a football player reports

569
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: for their last camp of college training camp. From that

570
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: point until their last minute really of their rookie year,

571
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: there's no break, you know, it's it's it's it's a

572
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: full year. And that's something they've never done before, all

573
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: the combine training, all that kind of stuff. So and

574
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: this year, I'm wondering, is it going to be even

575
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: worse because you didn't acclimate with your team like most seasons.

576
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of had my ears open around

577
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: the league. Is the rookie wall hitting more this year

578
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: than ever? Because it hits every year, by the way,

579
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's real. Yeah. Um, if we're looking for

580
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: some silver linings from this game, I look at what

581
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers did defensively against a really good Buffalo offense. Uh,

582
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: if you if you take Alan and they had Alan

583
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: had six carries and Digs had one on a on

584
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: a little end around thing. Uh. Those guys had seven

585
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: carries for twenty nine yards. Um. This the Buffalo running

586
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: backs Moss and Singletary twenty carries for seventy five yards.

587
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: Very little. I mean, a lot of that was late

588
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: in the game. I think, you know, I mean, you'll

589
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: take that. They the Steelers did a nice job against

590
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: the run in that game until that last possession when

591
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: they were just completely gas The real feel way too long. Uh,

592
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: you know, and again you know, Alan through forty three

593
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: passes for two thirty eight yards. Steel run defense doesn't

594
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: worry me at all. No, I think that's you know,

595
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: and you're doing it with Marcus Allen out there, You're

596
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: doing with Ulysses Gilbert out there and some other guys. Yeah,

597
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, you're you're looking at the

598
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: final three games Cincinnati this week. It's almost like a

599
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to call this a bye because they

600
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: gotta play a game. They're the worst team in the league.

601
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: But you get a chance to work on some stuff

602
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: this week and kind of figure this out before you

603
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: play Indianapolis and Cleveland to finish off the season. You

604
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: can put something different on tape than somebody else has

605
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: to repair. You know, you could become less predictable. Yeah,

606
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, and become a little harder because you're gonna

607
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna win. Like I don't know how Cincinnati scores

608
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: more than ten points in this game. I don't either,

609
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: you know. Like when I previewed Dallas, since he I said,

610
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how, since he can get double digits

611
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: in Dallas is the worst defensive league. I ended up

612
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: making that, ended up making Dallas my DFS And if

613
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: defense and they're they're awful, it's worst. It might be

614
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league. And they scored twenty

615
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: points and now we got hurt this week like we

616
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: get Finley. I mean that's even worse. So this is

617
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: a week where you can unless they experimental teams or

618
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: something crazy like that. I mean, since he's not gonna

619
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: put points up. Yeah, So I mean bye week could

620
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: be better. But this is as good as you could

621
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: ask for a long week to rest your bones and

622
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: play a very very bad team that you know extremely well.

623
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: It's funny. I mentioned that call I did with Madden

624
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: on the way here, and I said, Mark, you and

625
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: I talk every Monday my hunches. If we went back

626
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: and reviewed every Monday call, the one we do today

627
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: will be the most negative. Like, I think this is

628
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: the low point in the season public perception wise. Like,

629
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: I think things get better from here. And I'm not

630
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: just trying to be a you know, Steeler Homer optimists that,

631
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you know. I just think that this team figures things out.

632
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: And really we're beat up after three games in a

633
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: very very short amount of time. Yeah, I I honestly

634
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I think they beat Since and I think they beat

635
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: Indianapolis at home. We'll see about Cleveland, and I'm interested

636
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: to watch Cleveland night. Yeah, but I think they win

637
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: these next two. I don't think if they have to

638
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: play better than that, will beat Cincinnati. Know how, that's

639
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: like playing Baltimore a couple of weeks ago. Um, if

640
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: they played like they have the last two weeks, I

641
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: don't think they'll beat the Colts. I expect them play

642
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: better than that though. In terms of offensively, I think

643
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: if they if they played defensively the way they did

644
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: against Alan, they'll have four or five sacks on Philip

645
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Rivers because he's not gonna escape. Um So, but I

646
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: mean a big stat to me, with the defense, they

647
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: don't have the numbers in front of me, but it's

648
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: these last two weeks against real teams. I mean that

649
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: Ravens team was hard to really get a judgment for

650
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: the points allowed in the first half versus second half

651
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: is night and day. So to me, that's complimentary football.

652
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: Your offensives to help you. You can't be out there

653
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: that long, you know, and all the see the depth

654
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: issues on defense are problematic right now too. Yeah, I agree, um,

655
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: but you know we'll see again. You can't get out

656
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: game as bad as that was. And we're talking about

657
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: this like the the defense got sliced up thirty four yards.

658
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: They gave up to a really good offen. They held Belf,

659
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: they held Buffalo under their I mean, they gave up

660
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: twenty points defensively, we were taking everyone. We're taking that,

661
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. And the rushing yards

662
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: and the yards given up. You would take all those

663
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: numbers and you'd say, and frankly, you told me those

664
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: things on Friday. This is what the Seriales will give

665
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: up defense. But I'm like, they'll win nine of those. Yeah, no,

666
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: I agree, So, but the offense has to do it's

667
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: it's share. It does it does? He is Matt Williamson.

668
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We're gonna get to that Cleveland Baltimore

669
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: game right after. This is a fascinating game. Your tunes

670
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: about drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

671
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. So Monday night football. Yeah, big one, big

672
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: one Baltimore at Cleveland, the Browns against the Browns an

673
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: FC North, NFC North Football. I imagine the ratings for

674
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: that one would be pretty good in Pittsburgh. UM. This

675
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: game when they played, they played the opener was not close,

676
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: not even a little bit, not even remotely, thirty eight

677
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: to six. Uh. The Ravens dominated Cleveland. UM since then

678
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Cleveland nine and three, Baltimore seven and five. Uh. And

679
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: and so you look at the last the last five

680
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: games here, uh the Colts. Uh, the the Ravens beat

681
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: the Colts, lost to New England, lost to Tennessee, lost

682
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: to the Steelers, come back and beat Dallas last weekend.

683
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: Um for the Browns, it's lost to Las Vegas sixteen

684
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: to six. That doesn't look so good. Yeah, that wasn't

685
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: the one of the rainstorm games. That was one of

686
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: the rainstore games. And they beat Houston ten seven. That

687
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: doesn't look Yeah, uh beat Philadelphia seventeen. Um, those were

688
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: all at home, I might add, Uh. Then they beat

689
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: Jacksonville five. They kind of almost got Um. They beat

690
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Tennessee last week in Nashville five, and everybody is like, oh,

691
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, this is this Cleveland team there for what

692
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: about those previous games there? If you if you've forgotten about, like,

693
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: this is not a good football team. I don't care

694
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: what their record is. Say the misconception is they have

695
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: an awesome record. They just blew out the Titans, and

696
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: those things are true. I mean, they got up on

697
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Tennessee heavy, and I gives the fancy a lot of

698
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: credit for that game because they're a running team. But

699
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: they came out throwing and Baker was hot. And he's

700
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: either hot or he's not. But that's a perfect matchup

701
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: for them to do that, because Tennessee rushes a pastor

702
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: as poorly as any team in the league. To be

703
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: very honest with you and the Tennessee, the Tennessee just

704
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: wiped the floor with Jacksonville. Jacksonville through the ball like

705
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: fifty six times yesterday. No sacks by Tennessee against the Jags.

706
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, so the Titans don't want to see the Browns. Well,

707
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: Mayfield wants to see the Tennessee is what I'm saying,

708
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: because he's there's no rush, yeah, and then they can't

709
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: stop the run, and then they got up and then

710
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: they started running on him. But another weakness was really

711
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: exposed to me in that game was and you could

712
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: call it garbage time if you want, but Tennessee came

713
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: back and made that more interesting than they should and

714
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland secondary looked, it looked horrific against a good offense.

715
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: So can Lamar do that? I don't know, But that's

716
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: that's just what the Browns are in my opinion, Um,

717
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: real quick on week one. Rarely, you know, we predict

718
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: games every week and whatnot. Rarely am I as confident

719
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: about a pick versus spread as I was ravensness, how

720
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: many it was, it could have been twenty. He just

721
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: you just knew that was coming. And you know, I

722
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: watched the Ravens last year. It was super impressed, and

723
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: I thought they'd have a better two thousand twenty than

724
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: they have. But at that point, the Browns didn't know

725
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: who they were yet. I mean, two new tackles, new

726
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: head coach, new coordinators, so they're better now. I mean,

727
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: I'll definitely concede that, and I give Stefanski all that credit.

728
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they were some of these teams, like the

729
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: giants in them, learned some of these teams with new

730
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: coaches in week one. I don't think we realized what

731
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: disadvantage they were at, but I have them. You know,

732
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: let's let's say this is another sloppy football game which

733
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: the weather looks like it could be a factor today

734
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I have much more confidence in Baltimore's defense

735
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: to shutdown the Browns running game than I do vice versa. Yes,

736
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: but the Ravens did not look good in Well, that

737
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: was really heavy weather and New New England a couple

738
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and Lamar didn't handle it particularly well.

739
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: So that's my one concern that way. But yes, I agree,

740
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean I probably think the Ravens. The Ravens defense

741
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: is a a lot better in Cleveland's. Yeah, it's also you're

742
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: also consider you know, comparing New England's defense to that

743
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: of Cleveland, and that's not New England's defense is not great,

744
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: but they still know how to scheme things up, and

745
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: he knows how to play in elements. Yea, Belichick's game

746
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: and element and record elements is not accidents. And we

747
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: know they can't do this, so we're just gonna take

748
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: this away and they if they can't do that, and

749
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: they can't do that, then they can't do anything. I

750
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: think a lot of people look at the night's game

751
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: just say who runs the ball better will win. It

752
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: might be that simple. But I think the Ravens have

753
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: or the Browns have more weaknesses running games aside, you know,

754
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: but I do think the Browns have a much better

755
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, well I agree, And you know Klais

756
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: Campbell banged up going into this one. We'll see, you know,

757
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: we'll see if he's able to play. Um. You know,

758
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: how does this affect the Steelers though? I mean Steeler

759
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: fans are rooting for the Ravens, right, I mean, just

760
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: because you could potention. Here's the thing I think it makes.

761
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: I makes feelings on if Baltimore wins this game, they're

762
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. That's what I would say. Be

763
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: careful what you wish for rooting for the Ravens because

764
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: Baltimore schedule after this after Cleveland's Jacksonville, New York since

765
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati, which New York the Giants. Science. I mean

766
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: that's at least to one. It worst, Yeah, it worst,

767
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: it worst, and their in their favorite against the Giants

768
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: no matter what happens. Yeah, it's it's at home. Um,

769
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, So, do you want the Ravens in the playoffs? Now?

770
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: Gonna say must because you're not probably getting the buy now, Pittsburgh.

771
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: If you if you look at Cleveland schedule, Baltimore tonight

772
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: at New York against the Giants at New York against

773
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: the Jets, and then the Steelers at home, seeing the

774
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: perfect scene. I'm much smart enough to figure out how

775
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: to make this happen. But if I'm the Steelers, I

776
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: want just about any other wild card in the in

777
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: the dance besides Baltimore as a potential Week one opponent,

778
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: just because the familiarity. They're always close games. I would

779
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: not try to play the Raiders, Dolphins, Colts, any of

780
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: those teams in Baltimore in Week one. Is there a

781
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: chance you could still lose a division if the Browns

782
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: win tonight? Yeah, but you know you have to play

783
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: pretty poor. I don't know what's more important out of

784
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: all those things, or do I want the ability. Just

785
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: the way I've watched this team in the last three weeks,

786
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: I would love to not care if I have the

787
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: two three, the two seed, the three seed, or the

788
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: four seed. If I can rest people in week seventeen,

789
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: if that Browns game doesn't matter to me, I'm I

790
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: don't care if I'm two, three, or four if I

791
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: can rest people in week seventeen. I just ran a

792
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: quick playoffs simulator based strictly this is strictly off teams

793
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: winning percentages right now. So that would assume that Cleveland

794
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: wins tonight. So if if Cleveland wins tonight and and

795
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: everything holds true, the teams uh, this has uh Miami

796
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: getting then the seventh seed at ten and six. So

797
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: Miami must have would then have the tiebreaker over Baltimore

798
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: based probably on the conference record, and I assume the

799
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: Raiders are out. The Raiders are out, Yeah, that gets

800
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Is the second seed at fourteen and two,

801
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: would play Miami me in the first round. That would

802
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: get Buffalo the third seed at thirteen and three, they

803
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: would host Indianapolis. The fourth seed would be Tennessee and

804
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: they get the Brownies. They get the Browns. Is a

805
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: fifth seed, which is interesting case played and we just

806
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: talked about that game, Okay. I mean again, important things

807
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: to me from a Steeler perspective are winning the division,

808
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: being able to sit Week seventeen, and keeping the Birdies

809
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. But keeping the Birdies out of

810
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: playoffs will be third on that list right in terms

811
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: of what's important, but being the ones being the two

812
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: seed versus the three seed, to me, it doesn't matter

813
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: at all because home field doesn't matter anymore. Now if

814
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: you give the Ravens the win in that game and

815
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: then go to get a week fifteen here and run

816
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: this again, all right, and we just go buy win

817
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: percentage again. Um, Shoot, that's didn't work. Didn't work, Okay,

818
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: So I think everyone Baltimore, if Baltimore, if that happens

819
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: for Baltimore. What happens then is the Ravens get in

820
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: is the five seed. If they finish off at eleven

821
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: and five, that projects then the the Browns is the

822
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: sixth seed at eleven and five, and the Courts the

823
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: Culture then the seventh seed at eleven and five. Steeler

824
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: would host the Colts at eleven and five. The Browns

825
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: are going to the playoffs. I think we need to right,

826
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: that's that's going to happen. You're you're nine and three

827
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: right now, you have to completely collapse, you know. By

828
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: the way, you got a game is your Jets. You

829
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: got a game against and they maybe get the Steelers

830
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: on the semi BI. They're probably favorite against the Giants.

831
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: They'll beat the Jets. Yeah, they're going So that second scenario,

832
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: I think the a f C is harder than the

833
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: first scenario, right, because then are teams more dangerous teams. Yeah,

834
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: and you'll be looking at either way. You're probably looking

835
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: at a Steelers Buffalo rematch if they both in round

836
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: two came round two, Okay, where because its two verse three.

837
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: This isn't a bad scenario though, because let's say Baltimore

838
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: upsets Tennessee. Well, now Baltimore is gonna go play Kansas City,

839
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: and that that's not a bad thing. Let them beat

840
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: up on him a little bit. No, I wouldn't mind

841
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: somebody knocking off Buffalo or Kansas City. You don't want

842
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: to play both those, yeah, but I don't. I don't

843
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: fear the Bills though, Like after watching them last time,

844
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, they're a good team. That they're not

845
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: like world beaters. No, I don't think they don't. Yeah,

846
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if they came to Pittsburgh and you know,

847
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: third week of December or January, I'm like, Okay, the

848
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna be favored in that game, probably Joe

849
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: Hayden and Vince Williams and assuming, assuming get some things

850
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: figured out. I will say this, Matt Foler just went

851
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: on I r um. Yeah, so he is. He's his

852
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: season probably would that include playoffs? You think, oh, he's

853
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: on at least three weeks. It's a pectoral injury, so

854
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: who knows, but yeah, we'll get do you think, well,

855
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: they didn't place him on IR so maybe there's some

856
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: hope that he's back. You know, maybe it's a weak thing.

857
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, if you see him this week against Cincinnati,

858
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: does that kill you? Probably not? Probably not. But they're thin.

859
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they're in their their lines. A little frightening

860
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: right now with those two injuries, because it wasn't playing

861
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: great and now it's you know, you don't want Hawkins

862
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: out there, you know, Um, but I just keep hearing

863
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: rooting for the Ravens tonight. I don't be careful about that.

864
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: See that that scenario doesn't bother me though, because again,

865
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: if if if that's gonna send, If if the fifth

866
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: the four or five game is Tennessee in Baltimore, I

867
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm in Kansas City that I necessarily

868
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: on like chomping at the bit to play either one

869
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: of those teams, agreed, um, And really back to my point,

870
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: I don't care from the two or three seed. There's

871
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: no I mean, other than you know, having to go

872
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: on the road. But right, yeah, I mean you just

873
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: played Buffalo there, you know, and I know that the

874
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: square ended up. But you've seen that show before, you know,

875
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: mm hmm me civil Coopy there, Um, what percent chance?

876
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: What would the what the what do the Browns need

877
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: to win the division? They would need to win out

878
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: and have the Steelers lose twice. Okay, I mean I'm

879
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: an operator assumption that they beat the Bengals. It's Pittsburgh

880
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: beats the Bengals. Yeah, I mean, I think they could

881
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: roll Rudolph and beat the Bengals. Um, so then Week

882
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: seventeen could matter for the division title potentially. I'm trying

883
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: to think, what how can I get the Steelers to

884
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: rest people in Week seventeen do the brown Do the

885
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: Browns lose tonight? Does that ensure that because if they

886
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: lose tonight, can they not win the division? No, because

887
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: they can still win out and the Steelers could be

888
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: okay here, I mean it would it would hurt because

889
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: they would they would split, they would have split the

890
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: two teams. So then it goes to division record. Steelers

891
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: have swept Baltimore. Let me throw there already they've already

892
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: got four division wins. If the Browns lose to Night

893
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: and go to nine and four and the Steelers beat

894
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals, then they they then they've clinched. You see.

895
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: That's to me what that's why you root against the

896
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: Browns tonight, because so if I all I want to

897
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: do is rest people in week seventeen, to me, that's

898
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: super important for where and maybe the Seels will look

899
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot fresher on eight days rest. Perhaps, Yeah, I

900
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: mean I've seen on the field lately. I want rest.

901
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: That's the thing that most important to me. So the

902
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: Browns losing tonight gives me the best chance to do

903
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: that is my thought process. Again, I like that four

904
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: or five game. You know, if if you're gonna send

905
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: one of those two teams. You're gonna tell me that

906
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: either Baltimore Tennessee is going to go to Casey, assuming

907
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: like the Browns don't upset the you know, the Bills

908
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: or the cold Stone upset the Steelers if it's and

909
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to us, but right, and you've got

910
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: to think too, for that to happen, the Ravens would

911
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: be playing well, they're not gonna back into the play.

912
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna beat the brown But those are

913
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: the Tennessee and Baltimore are the two most physical teams

914
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: matchup wise, And don't beat Kansas City. You beat up

915
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: on you beat them up with your run game, and

916
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna, you know, physical team, well coached, right, Yeah,

917
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just thinking about that from a Steeler's perspective. Um, again,

918
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: you gotta win to get there, of course, of course,

919
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: but you look at your road. I mean, obviously Kansas

920
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: City is the scariest. But yeah, to me, the week's

921
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: seventeen by set might by would be awesome. And the

922
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: thing about it is too, if you remember last year,

923
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City coming off that bye week did not come

924
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: out sharp h m hm. They finished. I mean, I

925
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: don't know part of me thinks Kansas City has allowed

926
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: a lot of teams to get back into games and

927
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: they're not blowing people out, and part of me thinks

928
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: they can drop twenty points and two drives and before

929
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: then do it. Yeah, that's that's my argument to that

930
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: if if that's the case, because they don't stop throwing

931
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: the football. No, but they're just you know, they they

932
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: go through walls. That just I mean, they lost the

933
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: turnover battle minus three against Miami. Miami's offense is just

934
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: not not play caliber too. Actually showed me a little

935
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: bit there that he was throw what he needed. He's

936
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: still limited though, He's very much a work in Prague

937
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: and the weapons and there's there's there's nothing there to

938
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: throw it to again and then no running backs and

939
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: nothing nobody to throw to. Like, I think we want

940
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: Miami to get into dance, So yeah, I would. I

941
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: would if they were the seven, you'd be okay with that.

942
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: But oh for sure. I don't think they're going to though,

943
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think. Let's take a break. He is

944
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the

945
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio here. This is the drive. We're gonna

946
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back, it's time for

947
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football Focus. We'll do that right after. This

948
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

949
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

950
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back on Dale All. We here with Matt Williamson.

951
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: It's time for the Fantasy Football Focus and we'll take

952
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: a look at this week's leaderboard coming out of the

953
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: Sunday games. And if you had Aaron Rodgers this week,

954
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,479
Speaker 1: you're pretty happy. Nine three touchdowns, also rushed six times

955
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: for thirteen yards in a touchdown every week every week

956
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: to me as much as my homes. I thought my

957
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: homes kind of took a little bit of a umble yesterday.

958
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: If you're talking about the m v P race. Two

959
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: interceptions in the first quarter and another one later on too.

960
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: Like if they were playing somebody better, somebody with a

961
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: better offense, they might lose that game. No, they might

962
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: have your hume sent right. I mean, Mahomes is amazing, um,

963
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: but that's selling Rodgers a little short. I mean, Rodgers

964
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: have one bad game all year against the Bucks in

965
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: their building, and everyone else has been a game just

966
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: like this one that you're just just twenty six thirty

967
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: three in that game. He never turns the ball over,

968
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: ball rarely hits the ground. I'm sorry, but he's only

969
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: got one receiver to Yeah, I mean that that's it.

970
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: The other guys are just guys. I mean, I love

971
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: my homes, but Rogers in Kansas City's offense would do

972
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: pretty well. He would do okay, yeah, it would be

973
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, the second leading scoring quarterback this week.

974
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Do you know who it was? No Drew Lock yards

975
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes for Drew Lock six carries for four yards.

976
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Um had a really solid game against It wasn't just

977
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, Bordles garbage time, because he does a lot

978
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, I'm open to the idea that

979
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: he's turning a little bit of a corn some weapons handler.

980
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: Made two big plays. They're okay, you know, I mean,

981
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: I think Denver's got some potential. I'm not the biggest

982
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: lock supporter, but he's gonna be in the mix next year.

983
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: Oh there's yeah, there's yeah, there's no doubt and he

984
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: could be that guy next year. Who you know, now

985
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 1: that you've got a full season of watching him play,

986
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: Like okay, if I take him as my number two

987
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: upside guy. Um, you know he may hit for fantasy. Yeah,

988
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: because he runs in he's aggressive thrower too, and they

989
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: have weapons, uh to a against that against that Kansas

990
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: City defense, three six team, two touchdowns. He did have

991
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: an interception. Also ran six times for twenty four yards

992
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: in a score we mentioned it. I thought he passed

993
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: a test. That's I think Kansas City's defense is a questionable.

994
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: It's a problem. Um because Kasecki was got hurt late

995
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: in the game and then Parker was out. I mean

996
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: they two have played well, That's not why I say

997
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: he checked the boxes, because he's always been a manager,

998
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: distributor and hey can you bring us back? Well, sort

999
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: of showed he could. You know, that was step in

1000
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: the right director. You know you you kind of saw that.

1001
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: You know they late in that game. Um, Kansas City

1002
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: went for what was the fourth and two or fourth

1003
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: and three with just over two minutes left. Um, Andy

1004
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: Reid did not want to punt the ball back to them, right,

1005
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: he doesn't trust the defense. They could have punted. They

1006
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: could have punted the ball and pinned him down inside

1007
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: the ten or something like that up a touchdown. Yeah.

1008
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: You know if um, he didn't want to do it.

1009
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs lose or when the Chiefs lose, it's

1010
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those whoever has the ball last

1011
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: situations and they don't have the ball last they they

1012
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: don't have the ball right, you know, but they could

1013
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: they could lose any team in the playoffs. And that

1014
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: was one of those type of games. Um, Russell Wilson

1015
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: back at it again this week they played the Jets.

1016
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: Gino Smith came in and the third in the third

1017
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: quarter and Russell Wilson was still the fourth leading scorer

1018
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: this week. He was seven only three for two and

1019
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: six yards, but four touchdowns. That game was over in

1020
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: the second quarter. Um, Mitchell Trabisky, is he in the

1021
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: same like lock conversation to sixty seven? Three touchdown passes,

1022
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: ran four times for twenty three yards. I mean smartly,

1023
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: it was all Alan Robinson in Montgomery, like, let's put

1024
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: the ball in the hands of the guys that are

1025
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: montgomerally hand. Like twelve catches or twelve carries that game.

1026
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: But they were all effective with us. The thing there

1027
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: is the thing Houston's defense is bad. That's the thing

1028
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: to take away from that. One thing I take away

1029
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: just from the league in general. Like we've often talked

1030
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: about the three awful teams Jacksonville, Jets and Bengals, I

1031
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: think the Panthers and Texans are the next. They're they're

1032
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: they're worse than Dallas. I mean they're really bad. Yeah,

1033
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: there's nothing they can hang out their hats on at

1034
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: this point. Some money, and DeShawn Watson got hurt. I mean, yeah,

1035
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing finally bad. But give Trabiscy credit. He wouldn't

1036
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: have done this again. You know this is better than

1037
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, no, he makes some money. He could make

1038
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: some money. Derek Carr three six, two touchdown passes, two interceptions,

1039
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: did rush for a touchdown in three carries for twelve

1040
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: yards against Indianapolis, So it's gonna stand out to me

1041
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: having a big game. But yeah, Xavier Rose got hurt

1042
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: in that game too. Yeah, so that's something that something

1043
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on to see if he gets back.

1044
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes three three but just two touchdown passes and three interceptions,

1045
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: had five carries for nine yards, so not a huge um.

1046
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: He always rose for three hundred plus, which is amazing,

1047
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was he had the same amount of points.

1048
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: Is Taysom Hill. Really, who's a better fantasy player quarterback

1049
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: than he is in realiest? Yeah, and Hurts was right

1050
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: there after him. Hurts Hirts threw for one sixty seven

1051
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: and a touchdown and had eighteen carries for a hundred

1052
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: and six yards. That can't that that can't keep up

1053
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: in like, No, I'm a little disappointed that the Saints

1054
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: allowed that to happen. I mean, you had to know

1055
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: that's what they were gonna do. I mean, at least

1056
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: they use Sanders better. I mean I give the Eagles

1057
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: credit for that, but I mean, after one game of

1058
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: watching Herds, I would imagine every defense is not going

1059
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: to let him run, right. That's That's the only thing.

1060
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: The only way that I'll give the Saints have passed

1061
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: on that was they had literally no tape of Jalen

1062
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: Hurts in the NFL. I mean we all kind of

1063
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: who he is, right, But you're right, Um, you know

1064
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna move on then to the running backs, and

1065
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: this was a more interesting week at that position. Um

1066
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Henry number one. Henry was number one, Yeah, for two fifteen,

1067
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, two catches for seven yards as well. Big

1068
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: game for him. Jonathan Taylor coming in for one fifty

1069
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns against against the Raiders, but two for

1070
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: fifteen as well. Actually dfs lineup where I had both

1071
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: of those guys in the lineup. Um, my receivers not

1072
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: so well. I'm I ran on the edge of of

1073
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: winning some money though, best luck. I got the Ravens

1074
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: defense going tonight. I need four points to get into

1075
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: the money. I wonder if Dobbins is next, though, and

1076
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: he's rookie running back, perhaps perhaps yes tonight. Yeah. Miles

1077
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: Sanders hundred fifteen yards and two touchdowns, four catches for

1078
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: one only fourteen carries. Though he's never he's a little bit.

1079
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of fool's goal a little bit. I don't

1080
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: know if it's that because he's not as explosive as comment. No,

1081
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: he's not. But I just kept sitting there watching that game, going,

1082
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: what's Carson Wentz saying, like, why couldn't we use this

1083
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: dude for the last twelve weeks? You know, I'm like,

1084
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: I need every help I can get. I'll pump at

1085
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: eighteen touches seems pretty like a pretty good number for him.

1086
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: He's the best offensive player. Can we use them? Yeah?

1087
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: We mentioned David Montgomery hundred thirteen yards on just eleven

1088
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: carries at I think you would have an eight yard

1089
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: run or something like that. Yeah. I didn't watch the

1090
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: end of that game, but I assume they sat him

1091
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: because they were they were winning by huge. Three catches

1092
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: for forty two yards, So I mean, three or four

1093
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, hundred fifty yards on fourteen touches

1094
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: is you know, pretty solid. He really got a bad

1095
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: reputation that he probably didn't deserve early in his career.

1096
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: A couple of small injuries, terrible offensive line, no quarterback,

1097
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: no quarterback. I mean, so he's a fantasy asset for sure.

1098
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: He's a running back one. Yeah, this continuing the trend

1099
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: of running backs who did a lot with little Mike Davis.

1100
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: Eleven for fifty two, two touchdowns, five catches for forty

1101
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: two yards, so you know, sixteen touches for ninety three

1102
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, that's a that's a good week.

1103
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: Cam Akers, we've talked about twenty nine for one seventy

1104
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: one didn't score though that would have if he had

1105
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown him put him in in that top five.

1106
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: But two catches for twenty three yards at Austin Ekeler

1107
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: fifteen for seventy nine on the ground, nine for sixty

1108
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: seven catching the bull didn't score. The end of that

1109
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: game was the most ridiculous. Yeah, it was the lose off.

1110
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna drive down the field and throw it and

1111
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: throw an interception. No, wait, we're gonna drive down the

1112
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: field throw an interception, and then right, we're gonna go

1113
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: back down the field and we're gonna do it. There

1114
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: were three interceptions in the last four minutes. And then

1115
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: before that, Anthony Lynn couldn't figure out how to get

1116
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: people on the field to kick field goals, and like,

1117
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: oh boy, I hope he's one of those guys. I

1118
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: don't mean that's that's that's rough. But neither one of

1119
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: those guys will probably be back next year, I would

1120
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: think not. Dalvin Cook had twenty two for one or

1121
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: two and a touchdown. Uh two catches for eight yards

1122
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: that against Tampa Bay's defense. People thought that would be

1123
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: a tough game for Dalvin Cooking. While the numbers weren't

1124
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: very Dalvin Cook, I mean, yeah, anybody else you're going, oh,

1125
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: that's a good game, Dalvin Cook. It's like two weeks

1126
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: in a row though, where it's been hasn't been easy.

1127
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: You know, he's not ripping people up, but the bar

1128
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: is so high. Yeah, I mean take a hundred two

1129
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: yards any day that week. Madison has also been out

1130
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: for the last two weeks, so his workload has been

1131
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: a little higher than that should be, probably at the

1132
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: receiver position. It wasn't quite uh, the big blow ups

1133
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: that we've seen in recent weeks. Diggs was the leading

1134
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: scorer this week, ten for one thirty and a touchdown. UM.

1135
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: That's the high water market. UM. Travis Kelsey eight for

1136
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: one thirty six and one to lead the tight ends

1137
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: fantasy m He's pretty good, so much ahead of all

1138
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: the tight ends playing against him. You lose every week

1139
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: we play gain Allan Robinson nine for a touchdown, Davante

1140
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Adams seven for one fifteen in a touchdown. Again, that

1141
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: that's for Davante Adams. You look at that and go,

1142
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of yeah. I mean, anybody else you'd say, well,

1143
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good week for those guys. It's

1144
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: like you're you're expecting multiple touchdowns and you know, a

1145
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards just you know, can you win

1146
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: if you just get that average game from this third

1147
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: receiver in the league for the week. Not too bad.

1148
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley for one twenty four and touchdown. He left

1149
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: for a short stretch too, But know Julio Ridley's stud

1150
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill three for seventy nine in a touchdown him,

1151
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: but he also had a rushing rushing touchdown. If you

1152
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: didn't get that rushing touchdown, you're like three for seventy

1153
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: nine a touchdown of the Tyreke is like, yeah, it

1154
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: sounds too great. Yeah, he's been seven targets too though,

1155
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: So I mean the Miami's defense had a nice job

1156
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: with him, and it's a good defense. Yeah. I mean

1157
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: you can kind of talk about how you're not afraid

1158
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: their offense and you'd like to play him in playoffs,

1159
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: but their defense causes Yeah. Uh t Y Hilton again

1160
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: with another big game five eight six and two touchdowns.

1161
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: He like a different guy, yeah, I mean he's like

1162
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 1: the old He must have introduced himself to Philip Rivers

1163
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: or somebody like something. But he's running a lot better.

1164
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's found new life. Yeah. So if he's

1165
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I would trust him going forward for fantasy. Yeah, he's

1166
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: been legit A J Brown seven for one twelve and

1167
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and he didn't play in the second half

1168
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: of a one handed touchdown. He's a superstar. Gets sicky

1169
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: five for sixty five and two touchdowns. No, it did not.

1170
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: It look like it as a shoulder just when he

1171
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: was starting to kind of come into his own. Yeah. Yeah,

1172
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: top five type tight end. He's had a breakout years,

1173
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: just the tight end position in a nutshell. DeAndre Hopkins

1174
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: again is almost the same argument that you have with

1175
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: the other guy's nine for one thirty six and no touchdowns.

1176
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna it's pretty good. Yeah, on eleven targets. By

1177
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: the way, eleven targets, guy is nine of them forever

1178
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: well over hundred yards. What do we think of this guy?

1179
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: kJ Hamdler too for eight six and two touchdowns only

1180
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: three targets. Don't get fired up over kJ Hamler. Yes,

1181
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: he had a big week, but he's still not getting

1182
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: the kind of targets that you need. Pant went out early,

1183
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of targets. I don't know what

1184
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: his status is. I guess Judy is the one, but

1185
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: Patrick's yeah, he's gonna still he's probably the two. And

1186
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Hamdler's kind of the sprinkle him in here and there

1187
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: and see what's again the Shaun Watt Jackson feel to him.

1188
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: You know where he gets loose, he's gonna win you

1189
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: the week. But I can't start him. No, that that's

1190
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: a completely she's on your team. I mean he's a

1191
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: valuable young guy. Yeah, complete dart thrill uh and the

1192
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: Ayouke sixteen targets, ten catches for a hundred and nineteen yards,

1193
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: Deebo Sami had hurt on the first play of the game,

1194
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: and a big time player. Yeah, hundred percent agree with

1195
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, see what happens with theebo, but aucs and

1196
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: every week starter. This is quite a few weeks in

1197
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: a row that he's been highly Fantasy relevant. He's starting

1198
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: to almost rival Justin Jefferson in terms of I mean

1199
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: that's a little high praise if you look at his

1200
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: like the last six games he's played have just been

1201
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: ridiculous and it's all short stuff and you know it

1202
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: takes makes people miss, but that's why they drafted. Yeah,

1203
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean that's what he was there for. Nick Mollins

1204
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: really bad in that game. Yeah, he's not good to

1205
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar, we've talked about him five for one hundred

1206
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: and a touchdown on nine targets. You have to trust

1207
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: him now and he gets you know, he'll have some

1208
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: lulls here and there, but he's been pretty consistent. Keenan

1209
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: Allen did does not a great week for him, nine

1210
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: for fifty two, but a touchdown kind of saved the

1211
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: day for him. He always gets targets, Yeah, I mean

1212
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: that's just what he does. Russell gauge with it. Yeah,

1213
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: through a pass through a touchdown pass with five for

1214
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: eighty two on seven targets. I would imagine you don't

1215
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: rush rush Julio back. So if you know, if you're

1216
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for a guy, I mean they got to

1217
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: throw the ball. That's what they do. Yeah, and somebody's

1218
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: got to catch a ball than Ridley Ryan through three

1219
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: picks and just they're throwing all the time. So for fantasy, yeah,

1220
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: we talked about this guy last week, and of course

1221
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: he goes out and has probably his best game of

1222
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: the season. That would be Marquez Valdes scantling six eight,

1223
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 1: five and a touchdown on six targets. He actually caught

1224
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: all six of his targets. It's hard to trust, it's

1225
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: hard to trust, but six targets is yeah, um, I'm

1226
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: open to the idea using them. How about this guy

1227
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: and he did a lot of his damage after the

1228
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: quarterback change, but Keeling Cole uh seven for sixty seven

1229
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: and a touchdown, twelve targets again, much of that after

1230
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: after Minshew came in. Min choose the guy now moving

1231
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: you know quarterback? Yeah, I mean could chark me, I

1232
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: don't want to lives in my dog out He can't,

1233
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: but he kept going to coal. Yeah, you know, that's

1234
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: that's something to keep an eye on. I think it's

1235
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: interesting that just men shooes in that they could be better.

1236
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: And Glennon wasn't even horrible, No, he was at every

1237
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: time you bring him up. I brushed him off, but

1238
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: he said a pretty good year. Yeah. And then finally,

1239
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: if you were hoping for a huge game out of

1240
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf against the Jets, that didn't happen. Six or

1241
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: sixty wanted a touchdown, just eight targets. Again, those guys

1242
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: are all out of the game by the middle of

1243
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: the third quarter. But he of course you get a

1244
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: start him again. But yeah, you were hoping to blow

1245
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: up and he didn't. Didn't happen. Um, yeah, it ends

1246
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: were included that, uh, well we had Giseki. It was

1247
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: not a great, not a big receiver week overall, a

1248
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: lot of not a lot of big passing yards. Weather

1249
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: starting to become a factor. You know what else it

1250
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: was not It was not a very good kicker a week.

1251
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: It was not to know a lot of think I

1252
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: think the kickers. Gotta get rid of the kickers, right,

1253
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: this is not the reason kickers were put in fantasy football.

1254
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: Originally was because most leagues were touchdowns. It was they

1255
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: were scoring leagues. That was the only way you can score. Yeah,

1256
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: you get okay, so you played this guy, You're you're

1257
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: going by touchdowns scored, you maybe get a bonus for

1258
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: a hundred yards. And we gotta have some kickers in

1259
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: there because we need points. It's the Stone Ages foes. Yeah,

1260
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Speaker 1: get rid of the kickers. It's just that's a dart show.

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Speaker 1: That's a dart throw complete. You can have the best

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Speaker 1: kicker in. Like if you had Seattle's kicker on on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I got my kickers going against Seattle. Well,

1264
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Speaker 1: all they are against the Jets. All they did was

1265
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Speaker 1: kick extra points. Yeah, you're right, don't do any good.

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Speaker 1: But there was a lot of miss kicks around the

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Speaker 1: League's here too this week, So I brought it up

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Speaker 1: just because there might be people that have Dan Bailey

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Speaker 1: and he gets cut on tomorrow or something. I mean

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Speaker 1: like there could be some changes around the league. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing, and kind of on the kicker position. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he is, No, it's it's ridiculous. He is. Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back right after this. Your tunes about drive on Home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Matt. We

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Speaker 1: mentioned that the Steelers placed Matt Feiler on the injured

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Speaker 1: Brews or the reserve injured list. That means he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be on there at least for three games or three weeks. Uh,

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: he has that pectoral injury. Uh. They didn't make a

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: move with with Kevin Dotson tells me that they think

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01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: he might be back a little bit sooner, so probably

1284
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: filers a little more severe. Uh. They activated Cassius marsh

1285
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: who they signed off of the Yeah, they signed him

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 1: off the Colts UH practice squad last week, and the

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01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: injuries that are happening to the Steelers seem to be

1288
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: continually happening at the same positions. That's the problem. So you're,

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Speaker 1: you know, you could, you know, you're kind of like

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: putting your finger in the die. Okay, gotta leak here,

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01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: and then it springs a leak right below. I put

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Speaker 1: my thumb in there, and before too long, your your

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,520
Speaker 1: hands all stretched out and you don't have enough fingers

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Yeah, I mean, so, do you think

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Speaker 1: it's safe to say that Dotson probably doesn't play this week? Yeah,

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: we don't. I mean, we just don't know at this point.

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Speaker 1: They do have the extra day there. Maybe it was

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01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: just a strain, but they didn't, you know, they immediately

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Speaker 1: declared him out, and they may have just been being hey, no, wait,

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: we were We know is bad, so we're gonna go

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have you strain this worst. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,600
Speaker 1: we don't want to make this thing worse than it

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: already is. I mean, I know you don't know this,

1304
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: but at least I'm holding out some hope that the

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01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: filer could be back for the playoff. There's a potential

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: for that. There's a chance for I mean, if it's

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01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: a torn pack, it won't be, but if it's a

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01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 1: bad strain, he could be. Um. I guess the fact

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Speaker 1: that Dots and didn't go on the list is very promising.

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01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: And we're gonna fall guilty of this all week. But

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Bengals lightly and if Hoss is

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01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: my guard or Gray or whoever, I can live with

1313
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: it for a week, especially by other four are out there. Um,

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: but not going forward, No, you need to you know,

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: when you you go ahead to play the Colts, you

1316
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: don't want to have Um one of the Browns games

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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: a big deal are lining up opposite Um Buckner. That's

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: not really I don't want him on the field ever.

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: Again A good story, great, but you know, I think

1320
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: he's got his letter this year and that I was

1321
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: just they might need to kick some tires on some

1322
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: veterans and see what's out there potentially. And that's the

1323
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: first thing that people immediately mentioned. Well, can they sign

1324
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Speaker 1: steffon was new Ski off the chief practice squad? Maybe,

1325
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: but remember this year you can put guys on that

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: on on the practice squad and you can protect five

1327
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: each week, and I don't think we have that information. Yeah,

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01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, and that comes out. I believe teams release

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: are protected lists on on Monday's. Um is that how

1330
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: that goes? That's week to week. It goes week to week.

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01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: If I'm the Chiefs, I'm not I'm going to protect

1332
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: was new Ski. I would imagine I'm not going to say, oh, yeah,

1333
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: we'll let you go, you know, resign with the Steelers

1334
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: and put them put you in the starting I'm not

1335
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: going to do that, or I mean they know the

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01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: team that would be interested in absolutely, you know. Um.

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Speaker 1: You also had a good point to like when the

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 1: Steelers moved on from him, Was he healthy? Um? Is

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01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 1: he healthy now? You know? Or are they just stashing

1340
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: them for the playoffs? Just's just interesting case, you know,

1341
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: right right? I mean, you know, a much better idea

1342
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: than of course, But that would be great. I mean,

1343
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: if you could get that guy and he's healthy, he

1344
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: would help you a lot of places. And I bet

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01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,839
Speaker 1: they regret moving on from him. You know the logic

1346
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: for moving on from correct me if I'm wrong? Was

1347
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 1: Dotson moved past him? So if a guard got hurt,

1348
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: Dotson was because he was impressive not that Whizz was bad.

1349
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 1: Was going to be your backup, your third guard, so

1350
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: only one guy could get hurt, or a series of

1351
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 1: guys like this case for Wiz to get in there,

1352
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: and then you save some cap space for the next year.

1353
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: He also, I also don't know how healthy he was.

1354
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: You know when they when they brought him back, he

1355
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: was ready, he was ready to start practicing again. Well

1356
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: then he worked, he worked on the side for three

1357
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: straight weeks. Yeah, it's like, okay, he never really got

1358
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: back in, so they either had to they either had

1359
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: to cut him or they had to put him on

1360
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: i R for the rest of the year at which point,

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: but it's kind of the same thing. Yeah, I see

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01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Okay, So yeah, that's kind of a bind.

1363
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: So if he wasn't completely healthy yet at that point,

1364
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, we we can't. We can't activate you

1365
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: because we're gonna be cutting somebody else that we may need.

1366
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: We're playing a roster spot short. Yeah, yeah, okay, and

1367
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: who knows if he's even an option from the chiefs,

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Speaker 1: like you said, and you've you've mentioned some guys like

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Speaker 1: Earl Warford and Justine Larry. I'm just looking here, at

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Speaker 1: looking here at the list of guys available, Larry Warford

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01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: is probably the most name, big name guy. You also

1372
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Speaker 1: mentioned his conditioning, and he's not exactly that. That's the thing.

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01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: He's been sitting up. He's been sitting out all year.

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01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: I know, people immediately, well, don't they go resigned Ramon Foster.

1375
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: That's not happening either. Ramon has no interest in playing

1376
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: better now. Yeah, well he's not getting beat up every week.

1377
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: Right again, if you know, if it's a if it's

1378
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: a safety or a linebacker, there's some expectation here that

1379
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be off, you know, working and

1380
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: doing the things they need to do, get pretty big

1381
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 1: pretty quick. Yeah, if you're you know, you were already

1382
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: like Ramon and officially retired. Like he's not going to

1383
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: the gym anymore. I don't know if he is or not,

1384
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't. I mean, he's not working like he

1385
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: was to get ready for a season. No, right, you know,

1386
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: get on a treadmill here and there to lose a pound. Now,

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: Warford got cut by who had him New Orleans, New Orleans,

1388
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: and they cut him at the start of training camp. Well,

1389
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 1: they drafted Ruise in the first round and Warford was

1390
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: making big money and they just it was kind of

1391
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: a double way amm me with that first round pick,

1392
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: get younger, save cap space. I was kind of shocked

1393
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: he didn't get picked up though. Yeah, it makes you

1394
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: wonder how much he wanted to play. Was he He

1395
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, I'm good. I got enough money.

1396
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to deal I don't want

1397
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 1: to deal with this COVID stuff. A lot of those

1398
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: heavier guys to op out cited about playing football. They

1399
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: were opting out um, And even if you signed him,

1400
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: when's the first he could Even he wouldn't play against

1401
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals because you need to get him through. So

1402
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: what do you play against the Colts? I mean, if

1403
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: he knows everything and everything goes perfect when they find

1404
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: him tomorrow, maybe you might get one regular season game out. Yeah. Yeah,

1405
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: and again he's not and that anyway, he's not in

1406
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: game shape. I mean, that's the that's the problem. So

1407
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: you almost have to look to to somebody else's practice squad,

1408
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: and there's not gonna be anybody's sitting there in a practice.

1409
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: What you're gonna go, Oh, yeah, I'm excited to get

1410
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: that guy. Probably not, but it is a good time

1411
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: to snag one've been playing football. That's the thing. You

1412
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: don't want to pull some you know, big guard off

1413
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: a couch and and say hey, we're getting would you

1414
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: like to sign and maybe potentially play first and two weeks? No, really,

1415
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: rather not. I'm not in any kind of shape that

1416
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: you know. I haven't trained for this. He's all pop

1417
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: heavy and yeah, yeah, I really don't need to go

1418
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,480
Speaker 1: get hurt again. What about Gray? Your thoughts on Grey?

1419
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: Big strong, powerful guy? Um, they played him some a tackle,

1420
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: he can also play some guard. Um, would you play

1421
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: him over Hospitentially? I think he gives you more, He's

1422
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: gonna move bodies more. Yeah, I mean I think he

1423
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: gives you a bigger Audi in there. I think it

1424
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: would depend on the matchup again, if if if, if

1425
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: you're going up yeah, he's yeah, he's small for the center. Yeah,

1426
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 1: it looks like somebody's high school center, right, Um, yeah,

1427
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 1: I mean I well here's the thing too. They don't

1428
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: like to play their backup center. Well, the next time,

1429
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: he certainly don't want to play your backup center next

1430
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: to your starting center because one leg whip and all

1431
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're down to no centers because filers

1432
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: the number three guy McDonald's your center before you know, Yeah,

1433
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, is it a chance that Greg

1434
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: gets to start. I think there's a strong chance that

1435
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: that would happen more I think about it, And Hoss

1436
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: is definitely gonna get a hat, right, He's gonna he'll

1437
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: be active and he would play if you if you

1438
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: really needed him to. But I think he'd get Gray

1439
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: ready to go for this week. It's not so bad.

1440
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: I guess I'd like to see what you could do. Yeah,

1441
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, so he's a little bit more of a

1442
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: mall are a little bit more of a run blocker. Um,

1443
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean some of the other guys out there,

1444
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: Cordy Glenn Um, guys that are a lot of money

1445
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: in the bag too. Yeah, are they gonna one we're

1446
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: excited to come back for um one to three weeks.

1447
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, actually in the playoff check you know,

1448
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: you get a playoff check out, it maybe get a

1449
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: ring out, he knows. Uh. Jake Rogers, Uh yeah, bad?

1450
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned Chris Long or Christie what's his face? Long?

1451
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: The other Long? The other? Yeah? Um, but just not

1452
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot out there right now. There's always an no

1453
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: line shortage. I mean, if these guys were any good,

1454
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: they would be on somebody's roster. If when you look

1455
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: around the league and go look at all these in

1456
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: you know, or they're turning down offers like that's the

1457
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: that's you know, people are talking about, Hey, let's go

1458
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: sign Claim Matthew as well, you might not want to play.

1459
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: Denver tried to sign Claim Matthews at the start of

1460
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: the season. He had no you know, he said no, yeah,

1461
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,839
Speaker 1: he said, people have called him. Yeah. I'm not familiar

1462
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: enough with the practice squads around the league, but there's

1463
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: a lot of guards on practice squads right now, every

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Speaker 1: one of them. I mean, it would take a while

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01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: to get that guy acclimated, especially if he's young. When

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01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: anybody who signed from outside the organization, you're not gonna

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: be able to do anything with them until the end

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01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: of the week anyway. So you would hope maybe even

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01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: dots And is back by the time that person gets acclimated,

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: right That's I think is the hope. That we'll find

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: out more about that tomorrow from Mike Tomlin. Hopefully so interesting.

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01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: It's gonna be certainly again the shuffle that has gone

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01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: on here in recent weeks has been gone stop seemingly.

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? I know these are off awful

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01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: questions for you too, but COVID and concussions with Vince

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01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: and Hayden. Hayden put on Instagram today that he expects

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01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: to play uh this week. Um. Vince Williams put out

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: some conflicting things yesterday. First said that, you know, he

1479
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: felt like he his lungs felt like he'd been smoking,

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01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, two packs a day. Yeah, and then later

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01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: and it is nay, later in the day He's like,

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01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. So you know, I thought Williams had

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01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: played pretty well. Yeah, I thought he you know, he

1484
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: was he was active and on the field, I thought,

1485
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: but at times, you know, he was Okay, if if

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01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: you have him next to Vince Williams and I think

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01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: they get more actually, I mean, it would be so bad. No,

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01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: especially with who you're playing here the next couple of weeks. Uh.

1489
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: You know, if that's your starting duo against Indianapolis and Cleveland,

1490
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: they're running teams right with that, those two are too

1491
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: downhill thumpers. I thought Ulysses Gilbert got his feet wet

1492
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: and I want to see more of him on the field,

1493
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: maybe on some passing downs. I don't want to see

1494
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: much more of Marcus Allen. That's kind of what I'm

1495
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: getting at, too, is like, let's let's get him out

1496
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: of the equation. Would be ideal. Not a linebacker. Not

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01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: a linebacker. I mean, I'm not sure what he is

1498
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: and good ridden So that's okay. Um, you would hope

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01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: Gilbert can be your allan like as soon as this

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01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 1: week possibly, Yeah, and kind of he's got his feet

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01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: under a little bit. Yeah, and mix those guys around.

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01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad they traded for Williamson, though, I mean they're

1503
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: being in a lot of trouble. Without them, they'd be

1504
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: in dire steadies to take into our lead in song

1505
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: there like that. Anyways, he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lali.

1506
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll be back to finish

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: up a show right after this. Your tunes about drive

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale. I'll eat here with Matt Williamson

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01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: and I'm looking here Matt at Dan Graziano's overreactions the

1512
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: weekend uh and his first one is that Jalen Hurts

1513
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: was clearly not an overreaction by the Eagles because they

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01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: won the game. That I thought he showed some good

1515
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: poise that the game didn't look too big for him.

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01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 1: I always think that of a quarterbacks first start, you

1517
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: know you're swimming or you're really frenetic. I thought he

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01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: showed some calmness. But he's not a good passer. No.

1519
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good runner that had some big

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01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: lanes that the Saints should not have allowed for, and

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01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the future opponents will. But he doesn't

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01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 1: throw the ball very well. Yeah, I mean to a

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: beat him out legitimately at Alabama, Oh yeah, I mean

1524
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: he was a liability for the Crimson Tide. And then

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01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: you look at like Mayfield and Murray, and I like Murray,

1526
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: but playing that Oklahoma offense is really advantageous. And he's

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01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: throwing the seedee lamb and it's bad corners and all

1528
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: his space. I mean, I'm not saying he's a bost

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01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: or anything, but it's just such a so easy, it's

1530
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: such an easy narrative. Well, the quarterbacks out Wentz was

1531
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: all the problem. He's terrible, you know, get him out

1532
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: of there again. They finally gave the New Orleans had

1533
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: not allowed a hundred yard rusher in fifty games, and

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 1: they give up two. Yeah, I mean the Saints didn't

1535
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,440
Speaker 1: play very well. It didn't play well at all, um

1536
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: and he caused them some problems. That does not mean

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01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 1: that he's going to continue to do that moving forward.

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01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: I have my real doubts about him. I mean, people

1539
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: were all a twitter about the guy. Maybe they will

1540
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: win the division, it's possibility. I think they're the most

1541
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: talented team in the division. But man, I don't think

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01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: he's the answer all of a sudden. Yeah. I don't

1543
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: think so either. And I think you know, it's it's

1544
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: much like the Taysom Hill stuff. Well, he had a

1545
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: good game against Atlanta, and he's had two good games

1546
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: against Atlanta and two bad games against teams not named

1547
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta against decent defenses. And and it will be important

1548
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: to get some some tape on Hurts too. Yeah, his

1549
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: second one, Travis Kelsey, should be the offensive player of

1550
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: the year. I think he's the honesty player of the year.

1551
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes him the Offensive Player

1552
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: of the Year. Who would you give it to quarterbacks?

1553
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: Aside like I think quarterback shouldn't be allowed to win

1554
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: that I think honestly to me, Henry, it's either Henry

1555
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: or or Cook Cook Ye Kamara was in it. He's

1556
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: kind of falling off. There's not a received Davante Adams

1557
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: is okay, he's on the Yeah, he's There's not a

1558
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: Slam Duncan. There's not a McCaffrey from last year. No.

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Diggs, Dig's got a hundred catches

1560
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 1: right now, right here's his problem. He's only got five touchdowns.

1561
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: So you know, you do have to score some touchdowns.

1562
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: That is the name of the game. You know, I'd

1563
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: be like, you know, Julio Jones has had some awesome years,

1564
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: but he's never really been in this conversation, truly in

1565
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: the conversation because every year he finished with a five touchdowns.

1566
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson was that guy. You know, I could make

1567
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: an argument for Kelsey. I could be his lawyer on

1568
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: this one and put it something together that would be

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01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: somewhat convincing. I'm a big believer that those I said

1570
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: this before the season that I thought Kittle is the

1571
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: best offensive player in the league. That's not a quarterback

1572
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: for the And I used to say the same thing

1573
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: about Ron Kelsey. Doesn't block like those guys. I mean,

1574
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: he's a big receiver, but they're so hard to defend. Yeah,

1575
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: and there's no answer. Who who do you match up

1576
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: on Kelsey? It's a problem, it's problem. It's a problem.

1577
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he's on pace to have the most

1578
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: tight end yards ever, but his tight ends he's not.

1579
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: He's not a blocker. No, he's not a blocker. He's

1580
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: he's a big wide receiver. That's what you have to

1581
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: look at him as. So you know again I compare

1582
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: his numbers to wide receivers, not necessarily tight ends. Um,

1583
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers will be the scariest team to play in

1584
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs. I don't know what that Yeah, he said,

1585
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: that's that's an overreaction according I'm not sure who is though,

1586
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: like Green Bay in Seattle a big time quarterbacks which

1587
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: is gonna make you scary. Yeah. I would have said

1588
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: the Saints, but their quarterback situation and they just lost

1589
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: and Tampa wasn't super impressive. They get they get a

1590
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: gift at the end of the first half on a

1591
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 1: they missed three field goals on an extra point too. Yeah,

1592
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: that was helpful, you know. Um, that was the first

1593
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: I saw somebody tweeted out they got a pass interference

1594
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: penalty on a hail Mary at the end of the

1595
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: first step. That was the first time since like two

1596
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: thousand and twelve is that have been called. It never

1597
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: gets called. Who's the best team in THEFC? I don't know. Yeah,

1598
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,799
Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't know. I mean, if Wilson

1599
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 1: or Rogers could take over, it might be the Rams.

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01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: It is the Rams, Yeah, I think it's the Rams. Yeah,

1601
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: but you know they've got my least favorite quarterback, right yeah,

1602
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean they've got they've got Worts. Oh yeah. I mean,

1603
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: if it's a Wilson or Roger shootout with Goff first

1604
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: one to forty wins, probably won't be the Rams. Yeah,

1605
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: this one. I I this has got to be an

1606
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: overreaction by him. But Chase belongs in the defensive Player

1607
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: of the year conversation. No, No, he's missed too many games.

1608
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: I think he'll win it in his actually missed one game,

1609
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: But he just he doesn't know. He hasn't taken over

1610
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: games like he was awesome this past week. And I

1611
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: think he he won the defensive Rookie of the Year

1612
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: this week and it was his award to lose. But

1613
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: Chin and some of these other guys have been good,

1614
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but I think Young will win the

1615
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: defensive end. He has that kind of talent. Yeah, and

1616
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: we knew that coming out. I thought he was thought

1617
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: he was the best player in draft. Yeah, he's a

1618
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: no brainer, you know, top type pick. Yeah, he's a superstar.

1619
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobiski will be a starting quarterback in I don't

1620
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: think you can get the thirty two pretty quick when

1621
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: you start, including Lawrence and Fields. All the guys were

1622
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: drafted this year or last You like two is going

1623
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: to start, you know, like and the guys that we

1624
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 1: saw though this past season with the the quarterback musical

1625
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: chair and took place. Cam was the Cam Newton was

1626
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: the guy who got left out, right, Um, I mean

1627
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 1: Cam get left out again. He could get left out again.

1628
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston got left out. I think he gets left

1629
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: out again. But do you think who who falls off?

1630
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,480
Speaker 1: You're like, Donald probably won't be a starter. What if

1631
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: what if these last these last three games all of

1632
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: a sudden Robinsky is like he plays like he did

1633
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 1: this past week. Does Chicago say, oh, hey, we gotta

1634
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: we can't move on from this guy? I could see that.

1635
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 1: I think I can see that happening. See, I think

1636
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: he might be Uh, let's bring him in to compete

1637
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: with Drew lock guy, you know, or we were thought

1638
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: about trading for Sam darn or let's sign Forbisky and

1639
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: like the if Nick the Nick Foles experiment is done.

1640
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Like if I'm Chicago, I'm like, okay, Mitch, what you know,

1641
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you back this year or whatever. So

1642
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna draft some you know or something

1643
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: something else. But you're you know, you're probably gonna be

1644
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: the starter, but maybe you have to compete. I don't know,

1645
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe if I'm Mit Strabiski, I'm looking

1646
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: at this, going, do I want to go somewhere else

1647
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: and learn a whole new offense and I'll be guaranteed

1648
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: to start a job. Like they're not gonna franchise him,

1649
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: but maybe they have to know. I bet he's in

1650
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback competition. Yeah, you're like, we even mentioned I

1651
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: bring him here and sit behind Ben for a year.

1652
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: He might be able to do better than that. Now, yeah,

1653
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 1: he might have an offer where he can at least compete.

1654
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: But I you know, if I'm Chicago, if you're in

1655
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: a tough spot. Now you got nothing, yeah right right,

1656
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: you gotta do something at the que can't go in.

1657
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: Might overpay him and then you're really in the boy

1658
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: he might be it might You might be in a

1659
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: situation that Jacksonville was with with Blake Bortles, where he

1660
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: took oh, he took us to the playoffs to give

1661
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: him a big paycheck and yeah, or you see him

1662
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: walk and he goes somewhere and is good and you

1663
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: know that what's gonna happen with Carson wentz H. I mean,

1664
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: there's there's some other situations around the league where you look, okay,

1665
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, but you can get the thirty two pretty

1666
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: cool wick, Like who's Washington starter gonna be? Not Smith?

1667
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 1: It's not a Smith, It's Alex Smith. But like the

1668
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: rest of the vision probably has, there's like your DA's

1669
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: gonna start somewhere, I mean his Teddy at starter, Like

1670
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: I might do that if I'm Carolina, I don't think so.

1671
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: I can't get my my first I can't get an

1672
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: early pick. I'll bring in Mitch and have him and

1673
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: Teddy battle it out. Yeah, something like that. Let him

1674
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: bring him back to Carolina and see, you know, get

1675
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 1: some fans in the stage. Yeah right, right, I didn't

1676
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 1: think of that angle, but right, it's home for him.

1677
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: He'd probably do it. And then you got to you know,

1678
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 1: what's going on with Stafford, what's going on with Matt Ryan?

1679
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: You know, just does Breeze retire or that they're just

1680
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: gonna hand it over to Taysom Hill after this year?

1681
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Tampa better add somebody, Yeah, I mean somebody that's young. No,

1682
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: you're you're true that that's true. And that's why I

1683
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: think a guy like Daniel Jones is going to be

1684
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: the starter. I mean, he'd have to really fall apart

1685
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be one of the thirty two. But

1686
01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 1: you can add thirty two a pretty quick, I guess.

1687
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just including rookie. I'm not gonna be

1688
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: is excited about some of those thirty two is. I know,

1689
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: like well, I mean, Dalton is a free agent. I'm

1690
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: not excited about him at all. But I'm gonna count

1691
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Burrow as one of the starters. You know, I mean

1692
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's gonna have to sign that. Cincinnati has to get

1693
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: Burrow back up. Yes, a veteran that's been around the block. Yeah,

1694
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 1: because he may not be ready. But if you count,

1695
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: there's gonna be at least four draft in the first round,

1696
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: maybe five. And I'm gonna count all those starters eventually,

1697
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: maybe not opening day. That's why I think you get

1698
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: the thirty two pretty quick, like Winston doesn't get it.

1699
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you've solved your quarterback issue, no, not one bit.

1700
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: You know, that's gonna be a fun year for quarterbacks.

1701
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: There's also be a lot of coaching changes, you know,

1702
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: what's alliance and maybe the new Lett staff does way

1703
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: to do with Stafford, you know, or you know things

1704
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, you think Donald's a starter next year? Uh?

1705
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: Do not. I don't either. I think he's a compete

1706
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: with Drew Lock. He needs to go somewhere where he

1707
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: can kind of reinvent himself. I'm sure as people around

1708
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: here and say, come here and do it. That's an

1709
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 1: expensive quarterback room. He's already do it for a million

1710
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: a year. Well, he's stilling his rookie deal. So unless

1711
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: one more year, right, right, So unless they cut him. Um,

1712
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 1: and then if you got him, somebody will get a

1713
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: pay right. If you do that, then you know, you

1714
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 1: gotta pick up the fifth year option if you're gonna

1715
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: make the trade for him, or that's the problem with right,

1716
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 1: that's what it gets expensive. Or you gonna sign him,

1717
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 1: or you gotta sign him, and you know, do you

1718
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: know what you have there? Do you like him enough?

1719
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Based on what you saw maybe in four preseason games?

1720
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: He's interesting though? Yeah? Um, you know I was asked

1721
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: again today, do I you know, do you think that

1722
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: because I wrote something I said that, you know, I

1723
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: don't think that the Steelers future quarterback of the futures

1724
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: in there organization right now? Does that mean you've given

1725
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: up on on on Mason Rudolph. No, but I mean

1726
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: he's a bust or Yeah, I mean he's gonna still

1727
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: be a football player, gonna be a quarterback somewhere, but

1728
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: start the next hundred games. No, you know, I don't know.

1729
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: You know, I think given everything and I've seen um

1730
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: and you see where the league is going, you need

1731
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: a better athlete at that position. I think so too.

1732
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: That's that's my big Haskins beef is we've had this

1733
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: conversation too, like, well, why don't you have a sixth

1734
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: round pick for Haskins? In general, I'm all for bringing

1735
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch and reclamation projects and dudes that were high picks,

1736
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 1: But I don't want my successor or the style of

1737
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: the position to be a heavy footed guy. Right. If

1738
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: you have your pick, you have your pick on how

1739
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: you want to rebuild that you want a young Ben Roethlisberger,

1740
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 1: not what looked like when he was thirty five, right,

1741
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: right exactly, And then you got to invest heavy in

1742
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 1: lineman that can pass block. I mean, like there's a

1743
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: trickle down effect to like you put Haskins behind an

1744
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: average offensive line. Now if it's you know, we're gonna

1745
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: give you Dan Marino and you know it's probably okay,

1746
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: but you gotta be a pretty special thrower now. And

1747
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't think Haskins is, you know, like Donald can

1748
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,640
Speaker 1: Wentz can move. You know, like I've even written a

1749
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: book on them. I've written a book on Haskins more

1750
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 1: than those guys. Yeah, I mean that was written before

1751
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 1: he came into the league, you know. And and I

1752
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: think Rudolph is a slightly better athletes than Haskins in

1753
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 1: terms of his movements. But but he's not an improv guy.

1754
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: When the first read isn't there, he goes the second

1755
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: read and that's not there. He's not gonna do much. Yeah,

1756
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: he's not a second reaction player. Yeah, it's more Matt

1757
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Ryan than it is. He's structured. He's a paint by numbers. Um.

1758
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 1: So you know, a long term backup for the absolutely.

1759
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're not even here, but I

1760
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 1: mean you could last a long time. Oh yeah, I

1761
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: mean his eight starts. As much as people want to

1762
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: kill his his his time. Last year they went five

1763
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 1: and three, and his eight starts, he had a positive

1764
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: touchdown the interception ratio. I mean, you know I've said

1765
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: this many times. Nick Mullins is starting games in the

1766
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: league right now. Oh yeah, there's been some what does that?

1767
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: What does that team do in the offseason, They've they've

1768
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: been rumored for Stafford or Darnold or something like that too.

1769
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 1: And then but Jimmy doesn't have has a no trades

1770
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: cause contract, which is interesting. You can take both those

1771
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: guys on already convinced them to tear that up. Jimmy

1772
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 1: making a whole lot of money, making a whole lot

1773
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 1: of money. I wonder if Jimmy ends up back into England.

1774
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: That's a possibility. I could see that. I could see

1775
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: that happening and Belichick wanting to right that wrong or

1776
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: slight get perceived, right, Yeah, I mean if they I've

1777
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 1: heard they really like Stafford San Francisco, it would be

1778
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: an interesting They could be a pretty good team with

1779
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: Stafford and Bosa and those guys back. Interesting. We should

1780
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: be interesting, should be a fun off season. But we're

1781
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: not there yet yet. Got three more weeks regular sheason

1782
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: in a row. We don't need to talk about off season,

1783
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Yeah, we'll have plenty to talk about as

1784
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: the week goes on, as we get through this. Of course,

1785
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers now sitting at eleven and two not so shabby.

1786
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: I think if we just if we started the season said, yeah,

1787
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: the Steeler is gonna be eleven and two after thirteen games,

1788
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: you're going I'll take that. Yeah, Hey, the Steelers might

1789
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 1: have a two game losing streak during the season. Oh,

1790
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: it's at the end of the world a little bit,

1791
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, just to have a little bit of uh,

1792
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: hopefully this to get reality. Yeah, we'll see here. They

1793
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: should you should be able to get to win this week.

1794
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for our show today. So

1795
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob Breck here on

1796
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lali. We

1797
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: want to thank you for listening to this edition of

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Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio