1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Now Taiwan could soon receive a package of one hundred 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Patriot missiles from the US. The cost approximately eight hundred 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: two million dollars for those let's get closer to the show. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: We we're joined by Tony Cappaccio, who is a Bloomberg 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Pentagon reporter. Tony, thanks so much. So this is fascinating 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: because this is brand new hardware hardware. But but the 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: deal is morphed out of a twenty ten sales so 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: it's classified as as not really a new deal. What 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: what's the significance of all of this. That's a very 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: interesting way to put it. Morphed out of That's a 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: very interesting accurate way to say it. Yeah, this is 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: one way I think they can get away with saying 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: we don't have any new sales planned. But the hardware 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. The Taiwan has the Pack three and 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: they's earlier Pack two Patriots. These are what they call 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: hit to kill, with very sophisticated sensors that could they 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: hit the missile versus they explode next to one. So 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: this new version, it would be up to Taiwan to 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: put in a a sales order for what they call 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: this is a clubsy name, but it's called the Mission 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: Missile Segment Enhancements. Basically, it's the best Patriot missile the 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: US has. It can fire farther, it's fins making more maneuverable, 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: and it's just got a more powerful motor. So the 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: issue here is selling them on these missiles along with 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: test equipment and very importantly modifications to their current launcher 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: kits launchers basically and then upgraded software. This package of 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: two million dollars, it's a possible sale. I don't need 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: to say this would fall under the threshold of the 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: ten year old contract that had a maximum order of 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: two point eight one billion dollars. If it was over 31 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: that threshold, they'd have to say this was a new sale. 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: My understanding is that this the thail and he's a 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, has signaled a budgeteer of budget 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: interest in doing this, and I gotta think this is 35 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna move pretty fast after Congress approves it within thirty days. 36 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: That yeah, and Tony, the the the geopolitical dynamic of this, 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: because you have in and I went back and actually 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: read your story of of that China had reacted very 39 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: strongly and and what canceled partnerships with the US, So, 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: I mean, and things are very tense now, so it's 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: not out of the roma possibility they will be a 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: very strong reaction to this as well. There could be. Yeah, 43 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: I think the cuteness here is that it's not really 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: a new sale the Biden administration can say, but a 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: modification under an umbrella contract or more morphing. As you said, 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: I gotta think so that they are going to react 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: because this is a new, more powerful missile that can 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: fire longer and farther excuse me longer and maneuver better. 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: So so they're they're they're gonna be so So how 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, what now? What is the partnership between the 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: US and China militarily? What what could be hurt by this? 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: What's the gamble? I'm thinking it's not so much hurting 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: our relationships with China as them taking more provocative short 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: term actions like maybe additional missiles launchings or area intrusive 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: aerial demonstrations like they did when Speaker Pelosi visited Taiwan, 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: or you know what this made There may be nothing, Okay, 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: So what are we talking about here in the United States? 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Does this have to be funded or can this can 59 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: this you said, move move quickly? Does this? Does Congress 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: get involved? How does it work? Congresses? They were when 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: what they call the informal stage, notification stage, and they 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: have thirty days to formally approve it. It's basically a 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: pocket veto. If they don't object, it goes through, and 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: then it's in Taiwan's ballpark to come up with a 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: funding request, I mean a sales request to the State Department. 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Were not giving me things for free, but the process 67 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: is in motion. Got it all right, Tony? Thank you 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: for explaining that the process is a little bit complicated. Uh, 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Tony cappacrio kindagon, of course, out of Bloomberg