1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class A production 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Happy Friday, Everybody. I'm Holly Fry 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: and I'm Tracy Vie Wilson. Uh. We hope you're having 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: a wonderful week. This week we talked about Lydia Maria Child. 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: We did who was fascinating. I mean, I feel like 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: I always say that word, but we probably wouldn't be 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: picking any of the things we picked if we didn't 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: find them fascinating. In her case, one thing I mentioned 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the episode that I wanted to 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: talk about was like the the lens of her writing, 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: because often, very often, I would say, when you read 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: something like an abolitionist peace or something about indigenous people's 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: that was written during this time period, particularly during a 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: white person and particularly a white woman, there are some 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: problematic aspects to it. There's certainly some some white saviorism 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: and self back padding that comes into play. Um, I'm 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: not gonna say her work was void of that entirely, 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: but it is to my read and I wouldn't say 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: I have like an encyclopedic knowledge of all her work, 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: but based on the things I read, a much lower 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: level than other writers at the time. There's also an 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: interesting thing about her that came up, and I couldn't 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: quite figure out how to pop it into the episode 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: without making a weird, clunky side road, which is that 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: we've talked about before. A lot of the the suffragists 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: and suffragettes of the time period in those early phases 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: eventually like they had linked up with post Civil War, 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: they had linked up with, UM, A lot of activists 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: that were also working to get black people the right 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: to vote right, but there was often that division of oh, 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, but white women first. She is the 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: rare exception that was like, ladies, we can wait a minute, 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: Like we got to get these people closer to where 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: we are before we take another step um, which was interesting. 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: She did not go to uh the Women's Convention at 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: Seneca Falls, but a lot of her work was read there, 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: for example, UM It's She's an interesting figure in that regard, 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: like she was very influential in her writing. But I 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: think because of her kind of sour taste after after 40 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: working with various abolitionist groups, she kind of got this 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: idea of like, organized groups are problematic, and I don't 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: want to do that. I still want to talk about 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: these issues and I want to publish all my stuff, 44 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: but like, please don't, please, don't lump me in with 45 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: a bunch of other people that think they think the 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: same way I do, because we'll find out we don't. Yeah. 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: So we got to the part about her her Boston 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: Atheneum borrowing privileges being removed, and I am a member 49 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: of the Boston Athne, so I had this nomitive indignance 50 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: um and I lighted it up and the on their 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: website they have this whole big biography of her and 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: they're like, we definitely revoked her privileges, but it's not 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: documented why, and there were other abolitionists who were members, 54 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: so question mark, and I'm like, still having my moment 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: of indignance. It's really interesting because they had given her 56 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: a free membership because of her, you know, her position. 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: And in one of the biographies I read, it indicated 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: that one of her friends was like, well, I'll just 59 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: buy you a membership and the Atheneum was like, nope, 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: welcome in our doors. And I was like, woa, how 61 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if I had to guess, it's really because 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: she talked so openly about interracial marriage and women's sexuality 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and things that even for abolitionists were a little too 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: far at the time. I mean, like, when you think 65 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: about someone we did our episode on Loving versus Virginia, 66 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: which to me is very recent history, and when you 67 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: think about that and then think about someone in the 68 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: eighteen thirties writing about like, no interracial marriage should be 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: a thing, you guys, this is actually going to help 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: society in the long run. That's a little bit eye 71 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: opening in terms of of how sort of brazen she 72 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: was with some of her writing. Yeah. Yeah, We've talked 73 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: in other episodes about marriages specifically in Massachusetts and other 74 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: parts of New England between um, white and indigenous people, 75 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: uh like in in decades and even centuries before she 76 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: was living UM, and I think that was like somewhat 77 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: more socially accepted, but interracial marriages between white people and 78 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: black people like really enormously taboo. Yeah, it's it's interesting. 79 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: I I think about to her marriage a lot and 80 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: how she, I mean clearly went into that marriage having 81 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: thought about it, having thought about David's financial issues. But 82 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: I also wonder because she doesn't there's not really any record, 83 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: She's not someone who ever secretly wrote about I'm so 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: mad at him, blah blah blah. So I wonder how 85 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: she felt, especially because she was so opposite of him 86 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: in the way she handled money, um, and knowing that 87 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: she probably could have been an extraordinarily wealthy woman based 88 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: on the popularity of some of her work had it 89 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: not been for the fact that the money was flowing 90 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: right back out the door. I can't help but wonder, 91 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: you know about the alternate timeline where yeah, she just 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: makes her own money and isn't isn't connected to anyone else, 93 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: that that creates a um uh spending spree element to 94 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: that whole income. Yeah. I I also had just various 95 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: mental questions about his whole libel conviction and what led 96 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: to that. Uh yeah, it's um. I mean, he was 97 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: brazen in his own way, and he was a very 98 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: outspoken person, and I think he was emboldened possibly, you know, 99 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: because he was a man um to make accusations against 100 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: very powerful people at times, and that just did not 101 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: always work. It also makes to me such a strong 102 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: contrast between that and the way she worked, where she 103 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: would be like, Hey, this time, I'm writing this essay 104 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: that's going to get published in this place, and the 105 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: main readers are going to be, you know, Southern women. 106 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: So maybe if I'm nice about how I put these 107 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: things but still tell the truth, they'll start to see 108 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: the air of their ways. Whereas other times she was 109 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: just like, this is all wrong. You're doing it wrong. 110 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: Everyone is wrong. But so it's a that is a 111 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: really interesting part of her story to me, just how 112 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of savvy she was about those things. Yeah, I 113 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: really really do enjoy the frugal housewife. It kind of 114 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: cracks me up. I would be her worst nightmare because 115 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I am not a frugal housewife. I'm like, yeah, I 116 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: want that toy, I'm a buy it, where she'd be 117 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: like what, um, but it is there's lots of good 118 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: stuff in there. I also wonder if she ever knew 119 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: a pack rat in her life, because she might not 120 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: be quite so like keep every scrap, every scrap you have, um, 121 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: if she knew that it would go in a pile 122 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: like it would at my house if that were the case. 123 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: So many things to unpack, Yeah with Mrs Child. This 124 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: week one of our episodes was on the Haymarket Riot, which, 125 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: as I said, is known by a number of different names, 126 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: none of which I feel like we're actually perfect encapsulations. 127 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Not there's no one word that's that's ideally illustrative there. Yeah, 128 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: there are honestly so many differ print aspects of how 129 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: the whole idea that a forty hour work week is 130 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: a full time week and it runs from Monday to Friday. Like, 131 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: there are so many different pieces of that whole thing. 132 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: This could almost be a series. Um. And in terms 133 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: of like the progression of that, I don't know that 134 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: that the haymarket incident is necessary the most necessarily the 135 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: most illustrative one, but it's also the one that it 136 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: just comes up over and over and over again in 137 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: terms of its connection to the eight hour work day. Um. 138 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: And also the fact that people have been asking us 139 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: to talk about it on the show for a while. Yeah, 140 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I I um in the way that precocious 141 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: children who think they're very bright and insightful off and do. 142 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I remember asking my parents a cajillion questions about how 143 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: the work week came to be a thing, and I'm like, uh, 144 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, why is As I've gotten older, I'm like, 145 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: why is it not nine to five anymore? But nine 146 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: to six? And the lunch got got taken out? Of 147 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the day. Um, But like I remember my parents being like, 148 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's always been that way. Yeah, even 149 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: though in their lifetimes it, I mean, it still is 150 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: not legally like that for everyone, and certainly in their 151 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: lifetimes there was still there were still things happening that 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: that impacted it, but they just didn't. They probably retired 153 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: of me asking a million questions and they were like, 154 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know anymore. 155 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Please go away. Do you sleep? Please sleep? Yeah, it 156 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: is one of those things that just sort of feels 157 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: like in a lot of ways that that's how it's 158 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: always been, and it, uh, it's definitely not how it's 159 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: always been. Like when I was reading about the progression 160 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: of like that May one national strike and then the 161 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: May three incident where where police killed some of at 162 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: least one of the demonstrators, possibly more, something that I 163 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: had read was like, you know, May three was the 164 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: first day back at work, and I was like, wait, 165 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: but I'm confused, Like it didn't totally jell with me 166 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: that this national strike that started on May one was 167 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: starting on a Saturday, because Saturday was a day that 168 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: most people were working in industries that you know, we 169 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: might not necessarily think of being at work on a 170 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: Saturday or a Sunday. So it's like it took me 171 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: aboute to be like, oh that that part wasn't fixed 172 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: yet either. No, uh, you know, it's it certainly struck 173 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: me when reading over your notes just how many of 174 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: these debates are still ongoing. We are still having the 175 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: same arguments about capitalism and what it means to the 176 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: working class and and whatnot. Um, it's weird to think about, 177 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: as we always say, like we're still fighting the same battles. Yeah, yeah, well, 178 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: and I I said in the show at one point 179 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: briefly that like I had chosen this because of the 180 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: whole eight hour workday connection. But then also, uh, you know, 181 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: we are still having so many conversations about UM, the 182 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: rights of workers in general, and how much workers are 183 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: making versus how much their employers are making, UM, and 184 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: then how law enforcement responds to protests that obviously has 185 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: been a huge, huge, huge issue UM for ages, but 186 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: especially over the last approximately year. UM, Like they're just 187 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: so many pieces of it that I felt like this 188 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: is almost a replay of something that could be happening 189 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, for sure, So this is a weird 190 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: curious not about researching the episode question. When you were 191 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: not having Saturday and Sunday as your quote days off 192 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: in a week, Um, how did you feel about that 193 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: work schedule? Um? In some ways I loved it because 194 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: it meant that on I had days off where things 195 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: like doctor's offices and government offices and stuff were open. 196 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: So if I had business like that to take care of, 197 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: it was way easier to schedule, to be like, oh, really, 198 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: well I'm off on Monday, um, and could could run 199 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: and do those things. It was also, you know, a 200 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: time in my life when I was younger, so I 201 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: would just keep crazy hours anyway, even crazier than I 202 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: do now. So I think I was more resilient to like, 203 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: oh but my friends all want to go out to eat, 204 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: and I will make that happen, even though I have 205 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: to work tomorrow and they don't stuff like that. I 206 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: would just feel like, that's fine, that's fine. I just 207 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: won't sleep all about and you know, get get dinner 208 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: and drinks and get into all kinds of shenanigans, and 209 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: I could be up at nine. That's not a problem 210 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: in my desk ready to go, which is I look 211 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: back on it now and I'm like, I would not 212 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: survive a single week of that. But yeah, yeah, I 213 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: um so in in in one of the jobs where 214 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: I was working at night most of the time, my 215 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: days off for Tuesday and Wednesday, but sometimes not, and 216 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I did not know what it was going to be 217 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: until the day the schedule was distributed for like the 218 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: upcoming week. It would be like, oh, I guess this week, 219 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: I don't have Tuesday off. Whoops. Um. But also most 220 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: of the people I socialized with were people I work 221 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: with who were all also working on Saturday and Sunday 222 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: almost every week of their lives. So it was like 223 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: it was just all we all just rolled with it, 224 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you know. It was very common for us to go 225 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: out to the movies as a group on Tuesday night 226 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: because most of us were going to be off on Wednesday. UM. 227 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: But then when I eventually after I moved to Atlanta, um, 228 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: I similarly I was always working on the weekend. I 229 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: was off during the week, and at that point, like 230 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: none of my social circle was working that schedule at all, 231 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: and that did become harder to coordinate around. Yeah, I 232 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: mean I feel like one I would go stir crazy 233 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: if I didn't know my schedule week to week. I think, um, 234 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: as much as I'm like I'll roll with anything, whatever 235 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: is fine, I like a little bit of structure, Like 236 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I need a little bit of structure 237 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: because I don't always have my own structure, so that 238 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: like kind of keeps me from going completely off the 239 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: rails and being like, oh, I don't know, I just 240 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: decided to drive to Oregon this week. I don't, I 241 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: don't know. Um, so that would be tricky. But I 242 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: imagine also doing things like scheduling, like doctor's appointments and 243 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: stuff gets a lot trickier than because maybe not. Yeah, 244 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: I remember one time, like I had been in a 245 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: pretty regular pattern of mostly having Tuesdays and Wednesdays off, 246 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: and that had been going on like that for a while, 247 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: and there was something critical that I needed to do, 248 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: and so I had mentioned to the scheduler person, Hey, 249 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: I've had Tuesday Wednesday off consecutively for a while. I 250 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: really really just I need that to be what happens 251 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: this upcoming week, because law, like, I don't even remember 252 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: what the thing was. I just remember the schedule came 253 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: out and I was not off on Tuesday and like 254 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: just crying in in the administrative office because it's like 255 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: it was, it wore on you after a while. Um 256 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: to be like even my one thing is not necessarily 257 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: happening on that day, Yeah, that would be tricky. I 258 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: do feel very spoiled in it. For a long time now, 259 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: I have had jobs where I have the flexibility to 260 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: be like, by the way, I'm going to leave for 261 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: X amount of time on whatever day because I have 262 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: a thing I gotta do, you know, for whatever. I 263 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: mean anything from a doctor's appointment to a vet visit 264 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: to sometimes a haircut. Um. It's it's something I do 265 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: not take for granted because I know how many people 266 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: do not have that level of flexibility. I mean I 267 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: remember my mother in law is a career educator, and 268 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: I remember talking to her about it and just like, no, 269 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: it's not like I can leave students in the middle 270 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: of the day and to adoptor's appointment. UM. So you know, 271 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: really thinking about things in those terms of people that 272 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: that are very beholden to you know, they're they're whether 273 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: they're clocked in or not, they're clocked in hours. UM 274 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't afford flexibility, is I think 275 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: one of the biggest problems we kind of face as 276 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: a global society, right the US particularly bad about it, 277 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: I think based on discussions I've had with people who 278 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,359 Speaker 1: live abroad, but I'm sure everywhere has its its quandary areas. 279 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Yeah. Anyway, if we could all live 280 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: lives of leisure, that would be great deal. Yeah. So anyway, 281 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: that's how the many things that were not why I 282 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: chose this episode continue to resonate with me about it. 283 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: So thanks for joining us for this casual behind the 284 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: scenes on Friday. We'll be back tomorrow with classic and 285 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: then Monday with a brand new episode. And you can, 286 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, subscribe to the show if you haven't already, 287 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: on the I heart Radio app and Apple podcasts basically 288 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: anywhere you get your podcasts. Stuff you Missed in History 289 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: Class is a production of I heart Radio. 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