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Speaker 1: How we do it today?
Speaker 4: Doing good, doing fantastic. I made a stop at Wingstop
Speaker 4: last night to prepare.
Speaker 5: Did you you're trying to trying to.
Speaker 1: Prepare the pallette?
Speaker 4: You can't. Yeah, I got the blazing you know, I
Speaker 4: ate about ten of them things, and you know my
Speaker 4: mouth is good and numb, so I'm ready for tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 6: I love that you got in practice.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, absolutely absolutely. I'm a guy who likes spice
Speaker 4: like this is why I initiated this bet to be
Speaker 4: getting with.
Speaker 5: But trying to calibrate.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I feel like we still need to train
Speaker 4: for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, failed to prepare prepared.
Speaker 5: Never heard of mouth.
Speaker 2: Calbra Hey, you might be a fan of jogging. You
Speaker 2: might might love going on on a nice, just normal job,
Speaker 2: but whenever you're out there sprinting for twenty six miles,
Speaker 2: it's different.
Speaker 1: That's different.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what Nick's doing on this on Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what he's trying to do.
Speaker 4: Like Ceed Lamb, he said he's a top receiver in
Speaker 4: the NFL, but he's not just going to go out
Speaker 4: there and not warm up before.
Speaker 1: Sometimes somebody, did you just compare yourself to Ceedy Lamb.
Speaker 4: I am the CD Lamb of eating spicy food.
Speaker 6: Oh wow, I will say that there is a receiver
Speaker 6: though that used to brag about that. Maybe it was
Speaker 6: Randy about eating spicy food, know about not warming up,
Speaker 6: I don't need to stretch or something. It might have
Speaker 6: been Randy.
Speaker 1: It sounds like something Chatto Joe saying Okay, it's.
Speaker 6: One of those two. Yeah, I don't even need to
Speaker 6: warm sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either way.
Speaker 2: Spicy Food Day is tomorrow, Johnny, You're going to try
Speaker 2: and stop in tomorrow. I'm thinking about it, think about
Speaker 2: maybe popping in just for the second segment.
Speaker 6: And if I won't, if I'm not here, I will
Speaker 6: be to feeling we hire an audience, I think we should.
Speaker 1: I think if if we can get everybody upstairs down here,
Speaker 1: I'll try. I'll start to stress.
Speaker 5: Might have send me a message. Somebody who watches our
Speaker 5: show religiously. I think he works at a prison. He's like,
Speaker 5: I'm not have to walk out the prison and go
Speaker 5: watch this.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's awesome.
Speaker 5: People have like countdown time ers.
Speaker 4: Yes, some days though this place would be more difficult
Speaker 4: to get into though.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this place specifically. I was in the lunch
Speaker 2: room yesterday and I was waiting in line and I
Speaker 2: got a tap on the shoulder.
Speaker 1: It was Will McLay.
Speaker 2: Will McClay came up to me and he goes, man,
Speaker 2: I heard about your hot sauce bet. And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh really, He's like, what are you doing on Friday?
Speaker 1: You want to come down. You want to you want
Speaker 1: to hang out? He was like, nah, dude, I don't
Speaker 1: want to watch you cry.
Speaker 4: And I was like, whoa me?
Speaker 1: How to get to me?
Speaker 7: He's like wha.
Speaker 1: I was like, let it be known. I was not
Speaker 1: the one that lost the bat.
Speaker 2: There were a couple of people that tweeted at us
Speaker 2: on Sunday too that thought I was the one that
Speaker 2: lost the bat. My agreement was that if it was
Speaker 2: a push, if it was in even one hundred, I
Speaker 2: would do it with both of you guys.
Speaker 5: That's what it was. There's rights for that comment.
Speaker 2: But the uh but yeah, he was like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to watch you cry and I was like, oh, well, no,
Speaker 2: it's actually Nick carras doing And he was like, oh really.
Speaker 1: I was like, so does that injured?
Speaker 2: Do you want to come watch it now? He's like, nah, good,
Speaker 2: he's got busier things to take care of. So tomorrow's
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Speaker 1: Oh there we go, bang like that bar. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the hottest segment, let's get into news and no.
Speaker 4: Stupid absolutely, let's uh goodness, gracious I had something immediately
Speaker 4: ready and now here I am fumbling trying to get
Speaker 4: it ready.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here thinking about spice and it's like,
Speaker 4: oh my god. Okay. The Cowboys practice report came out yesterday.
Speaker 4: A lot of people were on it, but everybody was
Speaker 4: listed as a full participant. Will run down Rego Dawdle
Speaker 4: with an ankle injury, Villiamifojoko with a knee injury, h
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis with a neck injury, Osa Digizua with the
Speaker 4: hamstring injury, Jalen Tolbert with a knee injury, and Cavante
Speaker 4: Turpin with his shoulder injury that he that forced him
Speaker 4: to miss the game against the Giants. And then also
Speaker 4: Peyton Hindershot was activated or not activated. He his practice
Speaker 4: window was opened so that he could could be activated
Speaker 4: on the active roster within twenty one days. That actually
Speaker 4: kind of surprises me. I didn't expect him to be
Speaker 4: brought back this season, but they opened his practice window
Speaker 4: and it looks like they're opening up the possibility of
Speaker 4: having four tight ends on the roster if they want
Speaker 4: to bring him back.
Speaker 8: You think that could happen as soon as this week.
Speaker 8: The thing is pretty quick. It goes back to our
Speaker 8: conversation yesterday. It's like, who do you who do you
Speaker 8: take off the active roster? And I'm just not sure
Speaker 8: at that point. Yeah, I'm not sure at that point.
Speaker 4: But four tight ends is it's not unheard of, but
Speaker 4: it's it's kind of wild.
Speaker 2: Uh when you hear that name, Isaiah, which one worries
Speaker 2: you the most? Those names on the list, which one
Speaker 2: would you, uh, would you be more concerned about?
Speaker 4: To run them through it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go through one more time.
Speaker 4: Rico, Daudovilliamifojoko, Jordan Lewis, Osa, Digizua, Jalen Tolbert Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 1: Mine would be Osa this week this is Osa was
Speaker 1: a neck, right, This week it will be Rico.
Speaker 5: Oh it's a hampster. Okay, Who's is the neck?
Speaker 4: Was Jordan Lewis?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's right? Differ this week it will be
Speaker 5: Rico because I believe that the box that was left unchecked,
Speaker 5: as we mentioned a couple of days ago, was the
Speaker 5: run game, and I believe they need to get the
Speaker 5: run game going, and I think that they can get
Speaker 5: it going, and I believe that if he's not there,
Speaker 5: that impacts that tremendously impacts their effectiveness and what they're
Speaker 5: trying to do in terms of trying to get Tony
Speaker 5: Pollard going. So I think they need that one two punch.
Speaker 5: I think they realized that last week, and if Rico
Speaker 5: is unavailable because of that angle, then I believe that
Speaker 5: that obviously puts a halt to that development. And this
Speaker 5: is a developmental week for that offensive line in this
Speaker 5: and this running running game.
Speaker 4: For me, it's Jordan Lewis. I think when you're going
Speaker 4: up against the skill group like the Panthers have, I
Speaker 4: think you need your entire secondary and I would love
Speaker 4: for Jordan Lewis to be able to get some good
Speaker 4: reps against guys like DJ Shark and Adam Thielen and
Speaker 4: so on and so forth. Additionally to that is the
Speaker 4: Panthers practice report looks like DJ Shark is making some
Speaker 4: headway in his elbow injury. Looks like he could be
Speaker 4: ready to go. Hayden Hurst popped up with a concussion.
Speaker 4: He did not practice yesterday, so that would obviously be notable.
Speaker 4: Aside from that JC Horn earlier this week, I know
Speaker 4: we talked about it. His practice window was open. Still
Speaker 4: unsure if he'll be activated before Sunday, but he was
Speaker 4: limited yesterday in practice.
Speaker 1: Any of those names concern you overall, John.
Speaker 6: Not with the Panthers, but Thosa, Diggi Zoo with the hamstring. Yeah,
Speaker 6: the Cowboys does a little bit, just because I wrote
Speaker 6: an article the other day for The Athletic about who
Speaker 6: I think are the top ten and I added an
Speaker 6: additional five at the bottom most important players for the
Speaker 6: rest of this season, and I had Osa in my
Speaker 6: top ten just because of one his value and then
Speaker 6: two just the position he plays and where the depth
Speaker 6: is with the rest of the team in the middle
Speaker 6: of the defensive line, and he's just so valuable to
Speaker 6: that defensive line. And in hamstrings, you just never know,
Speaker 6: I mean like they can kind of be annoying and
Speaker 6: be something you're dealing with for you know, several weeks.
Speaker 6: So whatever it takes to get him healthy, if that
Speaker 6: means limited as reps this week, you do what you
Speaker 6: gotta do for sure.
Speaker 1: Also not to mention the one of the things it's
Speaker 1: that plays into his strengths from most of the standpoint is.
Speaker 5: His get off.
Speaker 2: It's the motor, it's the way he can he can
Speaker 2: explode off the line of scrimmage, and if he's dealing
Speaker 2: with a ham tring, that's probably going to be hindered
Speaker 2: just a little bit.
Speaker 1: To go along with what John just said.
Speaker 2: In terms of the importance of what he brings to
Speaker 2: the interior of that defense, He's been a big part
Speaker 2: of how this run defense has taken a step forward
Speaker 2: and taking a step in the right direction this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also, let's say worst case scenario, OSA, I
Speaker 4: think he's can't go, you know, does that open up
Speaker 4: more opportunities for guys like Manzie Smith and Nevill Gallimore
Speaker 4: and against a team where you know their run game
Speaker 4: obviously isn't the most effective in the world. Would it
Speaker 4: be valuable to get reps for those guys in that
Speaker 4: instance At the same.
Speaker 5: Time, probably, yeah, probably, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then, I mean, I don't know if I love having
Speaker 2: one of our better players out on the defense exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, it's not the worst case, It's.
Speaker 1: A very positive way to look at it.
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even really try to be positive. Next thing
Speaker 4: we were we were in the locker room yesterday, and
Speaker 4: wasn't a ton of guys in the locker room they've
Speaker 4: kind of moved to a different practice schedule of the
Speaker 4: course the last couple of weeks looks like that's gonna
Speaker 4: be mostly the schedule moving forward. Whereas like Wednesday, whereas
Speaker 4: typically they held a light practice, instead, they're doing a
Speaker 4: light walk through later in the day and we have
Speaker 4: locker room much earlier in the day where you know,
Speaker 4: some guys are in, some guys are out. We were
Speaker 4: able to talk to Marquis Bell and talk to a
Speaker 4: lot of guys honestly about just the LVE injury and
Speaker 4: how it impacts everybody, but obviously the linebackers it impacts
Speaker 4: a lot more. With Marquis Spell and Damont Clark, and
Speaker 4: Marquis Bell was talking about how him and DeMont Clark
Speaker 4: have you know, come into this year and they've really
Speaker 4: bonded because they've been in that second level together and
Speaker 4: they've been able to grow in that second level. They're
Speaker 4: both second year guys, both came in together last year,
Speaker 4: and both of them were able to just kind of
Speaker 4: bounce stuff off each other. It was really good to
Speaker 4: just hear that out of Marquise Bell, and he's really
Speaker 4: confident moving forward that he can, you know, man down
Speaker 4: that second level as the year goes on. There was
Speaker 4: a question I asked him towards the end. I was like,
Speaker 4: do you feel like, do you feel like you need
Speaker 4: to bulke up? Do you feel like it's taken a
Speaker 4: little bit more of a physical toll on you as
Speaker 4: the season has gone on, since you're, you know, a
Speaker 4: little bit of a smaller linebacker. He's like, no, I
Speaker 4: feel great. He's like, if anything, I'm faster because I'm
Speaker 4: getting around these offensive linemen. So it was good to
Speaker 4: hear from Marquis. He's a guy that doesn't really talk
Speaker 4: too much whenever you do get him, but he was
Speaker 4: very open yesterday and had a lot of good things
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 2: Both he and Demone Clark both talked about the emotional
Speaker 2: significance of Layton vander Esch being out for the season two.
Speaker 2: And I thought the way that they kind of outlined that, John,
Speaker 2: you were in there too, but the way they outlined
Speaker 2: that yesterday was it was pretty indicative of how much
Speaker 2: of an impact l the has had on that defensive side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really surprised with how, like when you mentioned
Speaker 6: Bell has been able to fill in for Layton, Yeah,
Speaker 6: just because of the significant drop off. We've seen in
Speaker 6: the past when he has gone out, But yeah, there's
Speaker 6: no question. I mean, he's just been around for a while.
Speaker 6: I mean he's been around a long time by NFL years,
Speaker 6: So those defensive guys are all familiar with him, just
Speaker 6: because he's been one of those guys that he's looked
Speaker 6: at as one of the faces of the team's defense.
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's no question. Yeah, that's a that's a
Speaker 6: big loss for them.
Speaker 5: What about you got for news and notes?
Speaker 4: This is the last thing it was. It's on the
Speaker 4: same note Damon Clark talking about LVE and how he's
Speaker 4: been in meetings ever since he has been injured, and
Speaker 4: how he's been on the sideline. He's been taking the
Speaker 4: road trips with the team and just being very involved
Speaker 4: with everything that's going on. This is what Damone Clark
Speaker 4: had to say. I'm going to support him because that
Speaker 4: was a guy that was with me every step of
Speaker 4: the way when I was rehabbing coming off my neck
Speaker 4: injury that he suffered last year. He said, don't worry
Speaker 4: about me, I'm going to be straight. That just speaks
Speaker 4: to the type of warrior he is. He's going to
Speaker 4: help us. I talked to Layton all the time. I
Speaker 4: look up to Layton. That's someone that does everything the
Speaker 4: right way. To me, that's way more important than the
Speaker 4: football player. If I never play another down with Layton,
Speaker 4: that's my brother. So definitely a lot of impact off
Speaker 4: the field that Layton is still able to bring. But
Speaker 4: it was it was interesting to see how impactful he
Speaker 4: really is. Talking to the players this year.
Speaker 2: How much of an impact have you seen, Because I
Speaker 2: know you're really close with the bone and you had
Speaker 2: spoken to him during that same time period, but how
Speaker 2: much of an impact do you feel like Layton had
Speaker 2: on what Damon has become in that second level?
Speaker 5: A lot. I think he was an instrumental element to
Speaker 5: Damon Clark's growth and continued development. I think mostly from
Speaker 5: the mental aspect, obviously trying to overcome that injury. Obviously
Speaker 5: having been somebody who had been through something similar before.
Speaker 5: It's always good and reassuring to have somebody that can
Speaker 5: that can communicate, and from a sense of understanding, and
Speaker 5: I think that was with the role that Vandersh played
Speaker 5: in de Moon Clark's life and that in that regard,
Speaker 5: and then obviously from being on the field together, being
Speaker 5: in the meeting rooms together, He's able to get that
Speaker 5: wisdom much like the Sean Lee you know, to vander
Speaker 5: Ash and other guys. Right, it's kind of just passing
Speaker 5: it along, right, kind of passing the baton. And if
Speaker 5: that was it for vander Esh, I think that he's
Speaker 5: had a long standing impact on Damon and he will
Speaker 5: continue to do so throughout the season. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was going to add something here that I don't
Speaker 6: want to take this thing off the track. How much
Speaker 6: time I got for this first break?
Speaker 1: We got about four minutes?
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, so I did this like off the track
Speaker 6: of the ten most important players, Mark eas bell Is
Speaker 6: and my next five, I just want to run through
Speaker 6: these real quick. Yes, year, if there's any four rejections.
Speaker 5: From you guys, okay, I like it.
Speaker 6: One is Dak two, Michaeh Parsons three, CD Lamb, I had,
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith four, Zach Martin five, Tyler Smith's six, OSAs seven,
Speaker 6: Darron Bland eight, Ferguson nine, Brandon Cooks ten, and then
Speaker 6: my next five are DeMarcus Lawrence Gilmore, Tony Pollard, Brandon Aubrey,
Speaker 6: and Marquise bell. Now this isn't just about oh, who
Speaker 6: are your fifteen ten to fifteen best players. This is
Speaker 6: about importance, you know, looking at the rest of the
Speaker 6: depth chart, if you were to lose one of these
Speaker 6: guys that drop off that you would have by it.
Speaker 6: So it's not just oh, who are the ten to
Speaker 6: fifteen best players on the team. It's in terms of
Speaker 6: their value to the team. That's why I had three
Speaker 6: offensive linemen in the top six, because if you lose
Speaker 6: any one of those guys, you know, there's just the
Speaker 6: pieces that have to move around. A lot of things
Speaker 6: fall apart here. And then I had Jake Ferguson on
Speaker 6: there because I think he's really taking his game to
Speaker 6: a different level than the other tight ends and if
Speaker 6: you were to lose him, like they have other tight ends,
Speaker 6: but I don't think that they're on the level of
Speaker 6: the level.
Speaker 1: Oh we have a question, Yes, it's how's it going?
Speaker 5: You omit it? Somebody? Okay, Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 6: Well he's no, okay, So I have him next to five.
Speaker 4: He's in.
Speaker 6: He's in my next five. I did not have him
Speaker 6: in the top ten. But yeah, no, I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: Catch John Slip.
Speaker 6: A lot of thought in this.
Speaker 5: When I heard you started talking about the depth chart,
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, who is your backup kicker?
Speaker 6: He's not, He's not in the rosn.
Speaker 5: I feel more I don't have Well who was it
Speaker 5: that just had a backup kicker and it was like
Speaker 5: the running back or somebody like the Texans.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for an Yeah, for an individual game. That's
Speaker 6: not like they're gonna be like, Okay, that guy is
Speaker 6: gonna be it for the season.
Speaker 1: That's our guy.
Speaker 6: You got a better chance to find a kicker on
Speaker 6: the street than you do, being like any number one
Speaker 6: tight ends out of there want a step into our
Speaker 6: offense right now, any any defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: To be fair, you kind of did find your kicker
Speaker 1: on the street left tackle?
Speaker 6: Anybodynybody out their left tackle.
Speaker 1: Literally on his couch playing where did you have d
Speaker 1: law at?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: He was the first of the next five.
Speaker 6: Right, first of my next five.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the only thing I would and that's only
Speaker 4: because of the depth that I think the only guy
Speaker 4: that I would maybe include in the top ten is
Speaker 4: Tony Pollard. Just yes, I think it's really important for
Speaker 4: him to get going for this team, to find longevity success,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. Yeah, And then I was thinking
Speaker 4: about Marque Spell, but I think Marques Spell is a
Speaker 4: good like next five type guy, just because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: the depth is bad at linebacker, yes, but yeah, I
Speaker 4: think he's important to Tony.
Speaker 1: Poller was the only name that kind of flagged for me.
Speaker 2: But when you're talking about depth chart and ways that
Speaker 2: they could fill the void, they have three other guys
Speaker 2: they feel really confident in where he go, doubt on,
Speaker 2: Malink Davis and Douce Fawn.
Speaker 6: If I did this a week ago, I might not
Speaker 6: have had Tony just looked as a freak go. The
Speaker 6: way he played kind of impressed me in a sense
Speaker 6: of I knew he can do what he did in
Speaker 6: that game, but to actually see it, you're kind of like, okay,
Speaker 6: that that adds to the value.
Speaker 2: Who were your eight, nine, ten guys, because that's that's
Speaker 2: about as high as I would put Tony.
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd put him up above any of
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman.
Speaker 6: Just I mean, obviously have Gilmore's I just think it's
Speaker 6: real thin at corn. If you're losing, I would keep
Speaker 6: it on there Ferguson was nine and then Brandon Cooks
Speaker 6: was ten, because again I think there's a lot of
Speaker 6: separation between Brandon Cooks and then whoever. Like, I feel
Speaker 6: like you can really count on Brandon in a big
Speaker 6: moment if you need to, if a team's completely taken
Speaker 6: CD away, I don't feel as strongly about what comes
Speaker 6: next on the on the depth chartway, I.
Speaker 1: Would probably take Pollard and put him above Ferguson.
Speaker 5: Okay, if I were.
Speaker 1: Making mile O, I would put Pollard above Ferguson.
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying on on Brandon Cooks, but
Speaker 2: if he that just thinks that makes me think he's
Speaker 2: like a first of the top of the next five guys,
Speaker 2: just based off of where CD is in this offense
Speaker 2: and how he is such a feature part.
Speaker 1: But I like the list overall. Did a great job
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 6: I just like these because they make for a good
Speaker 6: like talking point, because.
Speaker 1: Everybody has their own opinions too.
Speaker 6: Exactly, and anytime you put a list together of anything,
Speaker 6: as long as it's five or more, you'll always get
Speaker 6: a bunch of people that disagree. And that makes for
Speaker 6: a great conversation though, you know, just to see where
Speaker 6: people value different things.
Speaker 2: It's funny, and I'll bring this up in the third segment,
Speaker 2: but it's very similar yesterday we were talking about MVP
Speaker 2: odds with Dak Prescott being number nine in the NFL's
Speaker 2: MVP odds and what they bring to the table, and
Speaker 2: while we were running through it, Nick mentioned instead of
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, you would put aj Brown in that mix,
Speaker 2: and I was It had me thinking yesterday when I
Speaker 2: was going back and watching through the show, was who's
Speaker 2: the Cowboys MVP? Who right now is your mid season
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys MVP. Don't say it out work loud, because
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it in the third segment,
Speaker 2: but I want to do it in like a voting
Speaker 2: standpoint where we each have a list of three and
Speaker 2: if you're the top vote, you get three points, if
Speaker 2: you're the second vote, you get two points, and then
Speaker 2: for the third vote you get one point. And then
Speaker 2: see what our collective Talking Cowboys mid season MVP would be.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do that in the third segment.
Speaker 2: But when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we've
Speaker 2: got QB vision. Isaiah is going to break it down
Speaker 2: for about two minutes and twelve tel seconds, eleven to
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Speaker 2: more Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 2: He says, hey, guys, well you have medical on standby
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Speaker 2: It's actually not a bad idea. I mean, that's the
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Speaker 5: He said. He is a CD Lamb of Spice.
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Speaker 1: I just don't want him to like hot die on air.
Speaker 5: Serry.
Speaker 6: You guys are focused on that side of it. I'm
Speaker 6: focused on what would be.
Speaker 5: Bad for the janitors.
Speaker 6: No bad for the show is that there's no zero
Speaker 6: reaction either. They get like he's sweating a little.
Speaker 1: That's the case, and we're giving him another that's the case.
Speaker 1: We're going to double down.
Speaker 5: Unvelow twenty dollars on it underneath the door to the
Speaker 5: bathroom for the janitors.
Speaker 1: What makes those two fast?
Speaker 6: As if someone just pouring down a bunch of milk,
Speaker 6: they're trying to like shovel in ice cream because they're
Speaker 6: just so much pain.
Speaker 2: Would you what is your choice? That's a good point.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have milk ice cream? I mean, what's
Speaker 2: what's your like?
Speaker 5: Water?
Speaker 4: Let's just go uh, let's just go milk.
Speaker 1: Just milk. Would you like me to have like a
Speaker 1: pint device?
Speaker 4: King of Spice wouldn't need anything, he really doesn't, but
Speaker 4: just in case he does talk to me, we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna have it just a case. I'm just have it
Speaker 1: just in case.
Speaker 2: Maybe a baby asprin as long as you like, if
Speaker 2: you don't have a heart attack, I will.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring I'm gonna bring like a pint device
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Speaker 1: Those tablets called? What's the actual thing that there's a
Speaker 1: name for it though? It's like a anti yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: antacit tablet.
Speaker 5: That's what we're doing, thank you.
Speaker 1: Not the branded one I.
Speaker 6: Have seen because I watched that Hot one show from
Speaker 6: time to time. I have seen that there are people
Speaker 6: that will drink a bunch of like Capto before like
Speaker 6: to kind of code there. I don't know if any
Speaker 6: of that stuff works. That's the thing, like people try
Speaker 6: different stuff, but I don't know if there's any scientific
Speaker 6: proof that I didn't even really makes it.
Speaker 5: Calibrate in his mouth.
Speaker 2: So yeah, are you are you ramping back up again tonight?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna go back to wingstop? And we'll see
Speaker 2: ramp it up?
Speaker 5: We'll see, well, I want to give it a day
Speaker 5: to rest, sir.
Speaker 4: We'll see what my preparation feels like going into the night.
Speaker 1: I felt like a champion of spice.
Speaker 2: Last night, me and my wife had we had some
Speaker 2: Thai food and you know how you rate it like
Speaker 2: one through five on the spicy scale.
Speaker 1: I usually get like a three.
Speaker 5: I went up to a four and it was awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead and five solid.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do a five solid.
Speaker 5: I tried her.
Speaker 1: She she does a five. She's big time into the spice.
Speaker 4: And she did the five and nah, no, they'ren take
Speaker 4: a bite.
Speaker 1: I took a bite. I took two or three and
Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't finish the whole thing. There's
Speaker 1: no way I can finish it.
Speaker 13: But don't kill her, you know. We'll see how Nick
Speaker 13: prepares for tomorrow. The end is the name of this
Speaker 13: near right in this near we'll see, We'll see. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 13: we had a we had a bit of a snaffoo
Speaker 13: in our shipping schedule.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 5: We'll make it work.
Speaker 1: We'll make it work, all right. Beamer, what time is it?
Speaker 1: It's time for some Why Eddie? Why Eddie? It's time
Speaker 1: for QB vision. With Isaiah's standback, get after it.
Speaker 5: It's not much to get after Kyle. Why not for
Speaker 5: a second week in a row. Last week against the Giants,
Speaker 5: it was relatively quick because we knew that these guys
Speaker 5: were going to be playing man to man. We talked
Speaker 5: about who was going to have an opportunity to get off,
Speaker 5: which is why we're sitting here talking about hot sauce.
Speaker 6: This team is.
Speaker 5: This team is different in the sense that they don't
Speaker 5: play a ton of man de man. Their team is
Speaker 5: a zone, primarily a zone defense and a primarily single
Speaker 5: high zone defense. Really weird to see in the NFL.
Speaker 5: I've never seen a team play as much as single
Speaker 5: high zone ever. To be honest with you, these guys
Speaker 5: are at the top of the league in terms of
Speaker 5: zone U I guess they they were. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get a seat line here.
Speaker 1: Their second They run the second most ze Secamos.
Speaker 5: Zone Sycamore zone coverage in the league. They blitzed almost
Speaker 5: as much as Dallas does. They're fifth in the league
Speaker 5: in terms of blitz percentage, but their pressure rate is
Speaker 5: thirty first. So much like last week, the Giants were
Speaker 5: at the top of the league in terms of uh pressure,
Speaker 5: pressure and you know, attemph of pressures and blitzes, but
Speaker 5: they weren't getting home right so they left themselves open
Speaker 5: and that obviously hurt them last week with Brandon Cooks
Speaker 5: having some opportunities off of some blitzes. These guys want
Speaker 5: to sit in single high. They're set in terms of
Speaker 5: too high. These guys at the bottom of the league, Okay,
Speaker 5: they just don't play it. They'll start off in too
Speaker 5: high shell. They'll show that they're playing two or show
Speaker 5: like they're playing four, and then right at this snap
Speaker 5: they do a really good job of disguising it at
Speaker 5: the snap, but you know what they're getting to, so
Speaker 5: it's not too much of a disguise. There's more so,
Speaker 5: which safety is coming down. That's pretty much what you're
Speaker 5: looking at. Okay, they started on a too high shell.
Speaker 5: All right, I know you're not staying back there, so
Speaker 5: go ahead and tell me. You know, I'm looking for
Speaker 5: any indicator to give me the idea of which direction
Speaker 5: that safety roll is. And then the reason why that's
Speaker 5: important is because you obviously, depending on what you have
Speaker 5: going on in terms of the passing game, you probably
Speaker 5: want to go away from the rolling down safety. Okay,
Speaker 5: so that's gonna be important for dak to be able
Speaker 5: to come up to the line of scrimmage and identify.
Speaker 5: From what I've seen on film, they disguise it up
Speaker 5: to the snap pretty much. And then when they roll.
Speaker 5: A lot of the times they're not rolling to get
Speaker 5: that safety down in the box for run prevention like
Speaker 5: most teams do. Okay, most teams roll that safety down
Speaker 5: to add another man to the box much like Dallas does.
Speaker 5: Or if they'll bring curse down and he's coming for run,
Speaker 5: run influence right to run stopping influence, these guys bring
Speaker 5: it down so that they can have another man on coverage, right,
Speaker 5: So they're bringing that safety down to have their four
Speaker 5: guys underneath or running Cover three zone. That is pretty
Speaker 5: much what they're running. And I don't know why they
Speaker 5: continue to do it that way. I don't know what
Speaker 5: is going on in their defensive coordinators head to think
Speaker 5: that you can run a cover three defense every single
Speaker 5: week in the NFL and be successful. But that's what
Speaker 5: he's doing. He's going he's playing single high and not
Speaker 5: playing man. Again, they're at the bottom of league in
Speaker 5: terms of man coverage. Dallas plays man the second most
Speaker 5: in the league. These guys play the second least in
Speaker 5: the league. So from that regard, okay, so when we
Speaker 5: start talking about personnel, there's not a lot that goes
Speaker 5: on outside of that. Defensively, scheme wise, it's it's really simple.
Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense scheme wise. Are personnel wise,
Speaker 5: I'm not impressed. They're missing some of their main guys. Defensively,
Speaker 5: they are missing their Shaq Thompson. Shout out to you,
Speaker 5: dub uh They're they're missing They're missing Shack Thompson. They're
Speaker 5: also missing there there's one of their starting linebackers. He's uh.
Speaker 5: I just blanked on his name.
Speaker 1: I'll find it for you.
Speaker 5: Okay, just blanked on it. But they're missing two of
Speaker 5: their starting line Brian Burns is questionable. Well not Brian Burns,
Speaker 5: Justin Houston. There is so Justin Houston for just Justin
Speaker 5: Houston and Shack Thompson. Those guys are both two of
Speaker 5: their three starting linebackers.
Speaker 2: Think about Jarno that's on the edge. He's designated to return,
Speaker 2: but I doubt he plays this week. You to Gross Matos,
Speaker 2: who was a big but that.
Speaker 5: Was the trump in terms of their the heart and
Speaker 5: soul of their team. Brian Burns is obviously their best
Speaker 5: defensive player at the defensive and position. He's questionable to
Speaker 5: come back. He is somebody that you need to circle
Speaker 5: if he's on the field. He's a he's a mad man.
Speaker 5: He's huge, he's fast, he's powerful, he's explosive.
Speaker 1: He's five and a half sacks this year.
Speaker 5: He's a complete beast. Right, he's a game wrecker by
Speaker 5: all by himself. He's their version of Micah Right. You
Speaker 5: put him on the field, doesn't matter where who you
Speaker 5: put him up against, He's going to be disruptive. Now
Speaker 5: if he can't get a sack. He's going to get
Speaker 5: a pressure if he's not on the field. Okay, they
Speaker 5: relied heavily on their linebackers. That was really the hard
Speaker 5: and soul of their team. And they're missing two of
Speaker 5: their main guys. That has caused them to play a
Speaker 5: very soft defense. Okay, so even when they're going single high,
Speaker 5: even when they're going to cover three, these guys are
Speaker 5: not pressing up they are You're gonna have the most
Speaker 5: free release run routes ever. This should be like routes
Speaker 5: on air. This should be like anybody who went out
Speaker 5: the training camp or anybody who's seen any kind of
Speaker 5: practices from the Dallas Cowboys, and you see the warm
Speaker 5: up part portion of practice where these guys are throwing
Speaker 5: the routes on air and Dack's throwing the CD Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 5: you know, jayln Tober. That's what it should look like.
Speaker 5: Because these guys don't come up and disrupt you, they
Speaker 5: don't put their hands on you, they don't alter anything
Speaker 5: that you're doing in terms of your route running capabilities.
Speaker 5: So this I foresee this being much more like the
Speaker 5: rams and the chargers. But the rams and the charges
Speaker 5: ran a too high show and they stayed in a
Speaker 5: too high shell. But that same amount of space is
Speaker 5: going to be given in terms of what the what
Speaker 5: our routes are are allowing for. Okay, against the Rams
Speaker 5: and the Chargers, you had three man covering underneath. This week,
Speaker 5: you'll have four men covering underneath. In terms of linebacker
Speaker 5: depth players, Okay, so you have one extra guy that
Speaker 5: you have to kind of decipher and find a zone in. Again,
Speaker 5: that's gonna come down to Dak being able to see
Speaker 5: exactly where that safety role coverage is coming from. And
Speaker 5: then in the secondary, Okay, when first level Brian burn
Speaker 5: is the dude, that's about all they have. The interior
Speaker 5: defensive lineman, they don't have a lot. I know you
Speaker 5: guys mentioned Derrick Brown in the break. He doesn't pop
Speaker 5: off film to me at all, regardless of where he
Speaker 5: was drafted. Think he has been popping out film the
Speaker 5: last couple of years. He's he was so good at
Speaker 5: Abera like he was he was my number four ranked
Speaker 5: player in that draft. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was insanely good at office.
Speaker 5: It's not translating to the NFL. Is not the only
Speaker 5: person that kind of shows up a little bit to
Speaker 5: me on film is Deshaun Williams, number ninety six. He's
Speaker 5: a big boy. But these guys primarily two gap. They
Speaker 5: want to get their hands on your office alignment and
Speaker 5: they just want to bull rush or they want to
Speaker 5: play peekaboo. They want to grab your office lineman. They
Speaker 5: want to poke their head on the left, poke their
Speaker 5: head on the right. See where your running back's going.
Speaker 5: So there's plenty of opportunity to have an established running
Speaker 5: game against this front defensive line because their linebackers are
Speaker 5: dwindled down to backups. Their their front defensive line is
Speaker 5: not very effective outside of Burns going to the secondary.
Speaker 5: He mentioned J. C. Horn. Jac Horn is a really
Speaker 5: good cornerback, but he is not available as far as
Speaker 5: we know. Right now. They open up that window, but
Speaker 5: he's he's off in terms of in terms of availability.
Speaker 5: The only person that remotely pops off film is somebody
Speaker 5: that Dallas Cowboys are familiar with, and that's Xavier Woods.
Speaker 5: All he wants to do is run around to hit you.
Speaker 5: That's pretty much all he's doing. He just wants to
Speaker 5: be heat seeking missile. He doesn't care. I don't even
Speaker 5: know how many personal fouls he has, but I'll watch
Speaker 5: a couple of games and he had a few.
Speaker 1: But outside of that, he's been playing pretty well.
Speaker 5: Outside of that, he's been playing okay. I mean, but again,
Speaker 5: he's just running around and hitting. He's not covering very well.
Speaker 5: He doesn't do anything that scares me in that regard.
Speaker 5: He just wants to take your head off if you
Speaker 5: come across the middle, that's that's it, all right, And
Speaker 5: he doesn't care that the flag's throne. He wants to
Speaker 5: get up and celebrate and find the nearest camera.
Speaker 4: That's the Louisiana Tech and of Rust and Louis Yeah, so.
Speaker 5: They're not being very off, but I believe that he's
Speaker 5: doing that because of how soft their defense is playing. Right,
Speaker 5: the calls that are coming in, you're not they're not
Speaker 5: being allowed. This is a for the first time, I'm
Speaker 5: seeing a bind. But don't break defense out of a
Speaker 5: single high It blows my mind. Right, Typically you see
Speaker 5: that out of two high shell right, cover four, cover two,
Speaker 5: whatever it might be. They'll go to cover two from
Speaker 5: time to time. If you're in like third and twelve,
Speaker 5: like most teams do, just to have a little bit
Speaker 5: of protection and keep everything in front of them. But
Speaker 5: for the most part, man, this is about as simple
Speaker 5: as it as can be. You should be able to
Speaker 5: have effective running game. That's why I was saying about
Speaker 5: Rico Dawdle, and that scared me in terms of him
Speaker 5: that being on the injury report, I would like to
Speaker 5: see Dallas get their running game going. Their linebackers are
Speaker 5: not what they what they used to be. Their defensive
Speaker 5: line doesn't do much, but you know, you know what
Speaker 5: they're going to do. In terms of their rushing capabilities.
Speaker 5: They're gonna grab you, They're gonna try to bull rush
Speaker 5: you back, They're gonna try to stay at the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. Move these guys off the line of scrimmage
Speaker 5: and get up to the second level on their linebackers.
Speaker 5: In terms of their defensive back their defensive backs are
Speaker 5: literally just watching you run routes and then they're trying
Speaker 5: to tackle you in front of you. That's that's it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna sit back, watch you run routes, you'll catch
Speaker 5: the ball, will tackle you, and then hopefully you'll throw
Speaker 5: enough enough incompletions where you know we'll have a chance offensively.
Speaker 5: But this is simple, simple. I hate to make it
Speaker 5: sound that simple. But that's what they've shown on film.
Speaker 6: My biggest surprise with them is that when you look
Speaker 6: at the stats from them, the season that they're passing
Speaker 6: yards against is one seventy six. Blows me away. I
Speaker 6: thought for sure looking at their record going in this game, like, oh,
Speaker 6: I bet you teams just throw all over them. Not
Speaker 6: the case that that really stunned me because and it's
Speaker 6: also it's not like it's a team that takes the
Speaker 6: ball away a bunch I want. I'm pretty sure they're
Speaker 6: tied for last in the league at like, I think
Speaker 6: they only have like six or seven takeaways. But when
Speaker 6: I saw that, I thought for sure that their overall defense,
Speaker 6: like their total defense, I didn't think it would be
Speaker 6: as high as it is. But I mean, teams are
Speaker 6: scoring twenty seven to twenty eight points on them. But
Speaker 6: I was a little surprised at the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's because they're dropping that fourth man. It's
Speaker 5: underneath coverage, right, so they you can push the ball
Speaker 5: down the field on them, right. They want to imagine
Speaker 5: if dan Quinn just sat back and was like, okay,
Speaker 5: you guys play off. Let these guys run routes. Don't
Speaker 5: let anybody behind you if they try to get behind you.
Speaker 5: By the time that they do get behind you, you know,
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons will be home. That's pretty much what they're
Speaker 5: doing defensively, right, Hey, Brian Burns, go go get the quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 5: Well we'll back up and keep everybody in front and
Speaker 5: they'll get They'll get bored enough that they'll try to
Speaker 5: push your thing over the top, and by that time
Speaker 5: you should be home and have an opportunity for a pressure,
Speaker 5: if not a sack. That's how I foresee their defense
Speaker 5: being facilitated. I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than that,
Speaker 5: but that's what it looks. That's what appears like to me.
Speaker 5: And again, to that point, they're dropping four guys underneath,
Speaker 5: so you have to find out where that safety is
Speaker 5: rolling right, So you're not gonna be able to identify
Speaker 5: that into a post.
Speaker 1: Snap, as I say, that's a post snap post that breeze.
Speaker 5: So Dackson come up to the line scrimmage, he's gonna
Speaker 5: come up. There's gonna be two high safeties. The cornerbacks
Speaker 5: are gonna be playing six to seven yards off. You
Speaker 5: have hitch routes all day long. But how many teams
Speaker 5: are gonna run hitches all the way down the field.
Speaker 5: Most office coordinators that path aren't that uh no, they're
Speaker 5: not that patient.
Speaker 1: Sorry patient, So I can kiel you looking.
Speaker 5: The Peppers are preparing me. So most teams aren't going
Speaker 5: to be that patient to just work down the field
Speaker 5: like that. So what they're relying on is for you
Speaker 5: to try to get some stuff going across the middle.
Speaker 5: And that's where they have that safety rolling down and
Speaker 5: they have those four guys underneath. It's like a little umbrella, right,
Speaker 5: It's like a little umbrella that they're putting up, and
Speaker 5: then they're putting a big umbrella over the top of
Speaker 5: it and saying, hey, take your shot if you want to,
Speaker 5: you probably won't have time if we have number zero
Speaker 5: on the field.
Speaker 1: Out of the last couple of games.
Speaker 2: How is that different than what Dak Prescott has been
Speaker 2: seeing with the Giants, the Rams, the Chargers going backwards.
Speaker 5: Going backwards, the Eagles and the Giants was man to man.
Speaker 5: So once your guy won, your guy was open. Now
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to go back to finding those zones
Speaker 5: and it's it's gonna be a little bit difficult from
Speaker 5: him in the sense that a lot of the route,
Speaker 5: most of the routes tree for Dallas is in breaking routes.
Speaker 5: So being that they're in breaking routes versus a single
Speaker 5: high zone, he's really gonna have to do a good
Speaker 5: job of putting the ball in the right place right.
Speaker 5: So that's what I'm saying, Like these teams like this
Speaker 5: wait for you to make the first mistake, Like they're
Speaker 5: just they're banking on you throwing it inaccurately and somebody
Speaker 5: getting their hands on it and getting the tip ball.
Speaker 5: You know, if you're going across the middle, Xavier Woods
Speaker 5: wants to be the enforcer. He wants to scare you
Speaker 5: so that you're not running anything deep across the middle.
Speaker 5: He'll take the penalty just to have your head on
Speaker 5: a swivel. And he's really they're really relying on you
Speaker 5: run a slant route right. You better throw it perfect
Speaker 5: because there's an outside linebacker and an inside linebacker and
Speaker 5: you got to fit it in that window right. So
Speaker 5: that's what you can get off the ball free. But
Speaker 5: you've got to go in there with our four guys
Speaker 5: and good luck trying to find something across the middle.
Speaker 5: If your patient enough, you will pick apart the outside
Speaker 5: that goes to piece again, you'll pick apart the outside.
Speaker 5: Put again. Most guys aren't going to be that patient,
Speaker 5: and you're not going to throw hitches, You're not gonna
Speaker 5: run quick outs. You're not gonna do all those things
Speaker 5: for an entire drive. Most people won't. Right, at some point,
Speaker 5: you're gonna want to throw in route and you're gonna
Speaker 5: want to throw a shallow You're gonna want to throw
Speaker 5: a slant, and that's what Dallas has made their living on.
Speaker 5: You think about a lot of the players that Ceedee
Speaker 5: Lamb's made has either been a big player on the
Speaker 5: outside or it's been a short, little slant route and
Speaker 5: he's kind of made something happen. Same thing with Brandon
Speaker 5: Cooks last week. Play action right, little ball across the
Speaker 5: middle that isn't going to be as tangible this week
Speaker 5: because of the zone coverage, and there's just again they're
Speaker 5: just waiting for that mistake. Now, you could pick this
Speaker 5: apart if you're patient, but you have to be precise
Speaker 5: with your ball.
Speaker 4: Does that mean most of the success you'll find is
Speaker 4: outside of the numbers.
Speaker 5: Yes, very much so. Screen game, yeah, I mean you
Speaker 5: can screen I mean but these guys playing six or
Speaker 5: seven years off, like this is crazy, Like this is
Speaker 5: the NFL. This isn't college, this isn't high school. This
Speaker 5: is high school stuff that you see out of them.
Speaker 5: Scheme wise, Now, their effectiveness is totally different. Right, you
Speaker 5: talk about the passing yardage against them, but this is
Speaker 5: a this is high school. This is high school defense.
Speaker 5: But even with high school defenses, with professional players, NFL players,
Speaker 5: you better be precise. And that's what Dak's gonna that's
Speaker 5: his challenge this week. If there is a challenge, that's
Speaker 5: his challenge. His accuracy last week. My guy's gonna better
Speaker 5: than your guy, but we're gonna beat you, and you're
Speaker 5: gonna they're gonna have a yard to two step on you.
Speaker 5: That's not gonna be the case this week unless it's outside.
Speaker 4: What fascinates me about this defense is to what you've
Speaker 4: already mentioned. They're fifth in the NFL and passing yards
Speaker 4: allowed through the first nine games, but they are bottom
Speaker 4: three in the league in sacks. So it's not like
Speaker 4: they're generating pressure and it's forcing you know, it's not
Speaker 4: allowing anything to happen downfield. And they blitzed the fifth
Speaker 4: most Yeah, it's it's strange.
Speaker 1: They still don't have any they don't.
Speaker 5: Get so it's much like last week where the Giants
Speaker 5: blitz almost the most out of anybody in the league,
Speaker 5: but they're the bottom of the league in.
Speaker 1: Terms of pressure that they can't get home.
Speaker 5: They can't get home, so they're exposed, right these guys,
Speaker 5: I don't foresee that being the case this week for them.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't see them blitzing much because they
Speaker 5: don't want to get exposed.
Speaker 1: Giants didn't blitz a whole lot of not compared to
Speaker 1: what they have been doing.
Speaker 5: They spend a lot of time in doubling CD. They
Speaker 5: spent a lot of time doubling CD to a fault.
Speaker 5: And that's why Brandon Cooks went off. I mean they
Speaker 5: went single high. They were going single high safety, but
Speaker 5: that single safety was sitting over the top of Ceede Lamb.
Speaker 5: It was like, Okay, Brandon Cooks is over there, man
Speaker 5: and man against your number two cornerback. We're gonna win
Speaker 5: that all day long.
Speaker 1: This week.
Speaker 5: They're gonna sit back and literally just say okay, put
Speaker 5: the umbrella up, wait, wait for the rain drops. That's it.
Speaker 5: That's all They're doing so.
Speaker 2: The real question is is Brandon Cook's gonna go over
Speaker 2: one hundred yards receiving again?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 1: And should we bet on it?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think. I don't see that this week.
Speaker 5: I really think this is a Tony Pollard game. I
Speaker 5: think I think the offense wants to get him going anyway,
Speaker 5: So I think that's the focus probably going hope, it's
Speaker 5: the focus going into this week. But this defense allows
Speaker 5: for that as well, as long as your receivers could
Speaker 5: get in there and get some blocks.
Speaker 6: By the way, this is fantasy football though.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna tell you, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Mike McCarthy, that's my favorite quarter of the year
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: This isn't. I don't play fantasy football.
Speaker 2: The three teams, three offenses that you would maybe that
Speaker 2: you would say, are I know, Nate, I've got We're
Speaker 2: on a podcast, Nate walking by saying I'm laid for TV.
Speaker 2: The here's the thing with Carolina. You were talking about
Speaker 2: how they've been giving up twenty one seventeen sixteen points
Speaker 2: last week and their loss against the Bears. The three
Speaker 2: teams that they've played that are playoff caliber teams, the Seahawks,
Speaker 2: the Lions and the Dolphins. Seahawks put up thirty seven,
Speaker 2: the Lions put up forty two, and the Dolphins put
Speaker 2: up forty two. So you can you can score against
Speaker 2: this team, and they've shown in the past that they
Speaker 2: will allow some points. But it is a bin don't
Speaker 2: break mentality and it's something that they're going to try
Speaker 2: and employ. By the way, Dak Prescott six interceptions this year.
Speaker 2: Four of those six have come against zone coverage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has not historically been great against them, and
Speaker 5: he's gonna play a lot of song. They're gonna play
Speaker 5: a lot of song. So what I'm saying, that's that's
Speaker 5: Dak's challenge this week. It's not a complicate his own,
Speaker 5: but it's still his own sure, so he just has
Speaker 5: to be accurate, that's all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you. This is another quick stet.
Speaker 4: We'll look at his rushing yards allowed defense wise, Panthers
Speaker 4: are ninth, but the Giants are fourth and as far
Speaker 4: as the most that they're giving up, So this is
Speaker 4: going to be an opportunity get the running game going,
Speaker 4: whether Rico Dall's playing or not. Like you just you
Speaker 4: have to find a way to rush for one seventy five.
Speaker 5: Thanks awesome.
Speaker 4: That's that's where you have to get this offense this week.
Speaker 1: That'd be great. All right, let's take our second break
Speaker 1: when we come back. Who is the mid season team
Speaker 1: MVP and who does John think is going to win
Speaker 1: this game? Coming up on.
Speaker 2: Jay some day we get his pick and we'll give
Speaker 2: you our team MVPs when we come back right after this.
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Speaker 5: Working the phones right now. This is happening customer service.
Speaker 5: They just let me know the last time the physical location,
Speaker 5: which is here in Texas, of the store. I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna mention the store was closed last time I walked,
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Speaker 5: I don' want to. I want to.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna make it happen. Talk to him in locker
Speaker 1: room today and.
Speaker 5: Tell them come through. Tell him come through.
Speaker 1: Show we offered him at the post game show, and
Speaker 1: we'll show.
Speaker 5: Me the video. What video video polls it? Show them
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, yeah, yeah I will. I'll do that. That
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Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 2: I want you to give me your top three Cowboys
Speaker 2: m vps this season, top.
Speaker 1: Three, one, two, and three. I want you to rank
Speaker 1: them top three top players at this point in the season.
Speaker 1: If season ended today, who would be.
Speaker 5: Your m v P.
Speaker 1: I'll start with Nick Harris.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go one CD, I'm gonna go to Dak
Speaker 4: Prescott and three Uhland.
Speaker 2: M One of the text lines said, Deron Bland needs
Speaker 2: to be the in the MVP conversation.
Speaker 1: If we lost him, we'd be in big trouble. That
Speaker 1: was Brian in Colorado. What do you think, John? This
Speaker 1: is tough.
Speaker 6: This is really tough.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: So there's no way I'm leaving Micah Parsons off my
Speaker 6: top three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough. It was tough for me.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Ceedee Lamb one, Micah two, Dak three
Speaker 6: mm hmm. But I will say you could have any
Speaker 6: of those three in a different order and I wouldn't
Speaker 6: have a huge argument for it. Yeah, but I would
Speaker 6: have a big argument for anybody but those three. Mm.
Speaker 2: By the way, we do have some text line conversation Dak, Lamb,
Speaker 2: Aubrey Brandon.
Speaker 1: Aubrey be in the third one. That one's from me.
Speaker 6: If there had been a lot of close games that
Speaker 6: came down to him kicking game winning field goal, as
Speaker 6: I'd feel a little bit differently and maybe that would
Speaker 6: be more of a factor for me. But still, no
Speaker 6: way is that in my top three.
Speaker 4: Didn't a kicker win the MVP in like the eighties?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: What I mean? What was going on?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm about.
Speaker 6: Wish did they have the forward pass?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look it up.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Isaiah, I am along the lines of you,
Speaker 5: I believe. I think I'm going with c D Cam.
Speaker 5: Then I'm going with Micah. Oh crap, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of guys making place, and then I guess I have
Speaker 5: to go back. Okay, Yeah, so I think Deron Bland
Speaker 5: is a benefactor.
Speaker 6: He would be my four, but he's I don't put
Speaker 6: him on that same.
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons just because he hasn't getting into sacks. This
Speaker 5: dude is leaving the NFL and pressures. Yeah, nobody wants
Speaker 5: to get hit by him. So they're running away and
Speaker 5: just tossing it in the air.
Speaker 6: And there is nobody that I know that loves pressures
Speaker 6: more than you.
Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty two, Mark Moseley, kicker the MV.
Speaker 6: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: NFL? Yeah, what do we do?
Speaker 4: That's or something?
Speaker 1: Mark Moseley.
Speaker 6: I mean, okay, I'll just come up with this scenario.
Speaker 6: If you in a seventeen games obviously was sixteen at
Speaker 6: that time to win MVP minimum six game winning field
Speaker 6: goals minimum minimum. We don't even start talking anything without.
Speaker 2: We're talking like forty five plus fifty yarder plus like
Speaker 2: just moving and Adam Vanity Yoakland playoffs in the wind
Speaker 2: and snow.
Speaker 6: There's not just because you had a bunch of field goals.
Speaker 2: Maybe even a touchdown maybe where he like throws a
Speaker 2: touchdown to win the game like late, like it's a
Speaker 2: fake field goal and he tosses it forty yards downfield
Speaker 2: like that would maybe give.
Speaker 4: It to him about to laugh. He went twenty for
Speaker 4: twenty one from field goals and he missed three extra
Speaker 4: points and that was when the extra points were like
Speaker 4: right there. He only played nine games that season, was
Speaker 4: eighty two a strike season. Maybe gosh, we look, look
Speaker 4: dude quarterbacks doing then Yeah, Joe, thiseman was second, which
Speaker 4: he on the same team, So I don't know this
Speaker 4: is why he was.
Speaker 6: What are we doing people?
Speaker 1: This is weird?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, So I have CD Dak and Mike had
Speaker 2: might have written down already, so that across the board
Speaker 2: has CD as your Cowboys mid season MVP. Uh, followed
Speaker 2: by Dak, then Micah, than Deron Bland, and I mean
Speaker 2: it was unanimous among the four here. Cede Lamb is
Speaker 2: the number one possibility, number one MVP. When you look
Speaker 2: at the national media, do you think he would ever
Speaker 2: get anywhere close to that sort of attention before Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott does.
Speaker 6: No, no, no, I don't hear the quarterback of the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: There's just so much more on your plate.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: It would be tough. Only way again, like I think
Speaker 6: we talked about the other day, you'd have to set
Speaker 6: the single season receiving record. Even then that means obviously
Speaker 6: Dak through for a ton of yards too. I think
Speaker 6: it would be I think it would be tough. I
Speaker 6: think the only guys on the Cowboys that could get
Speaker 6: MVP would be if Micah had, you know, set the
Speaker 6: sack record, or if obviously they win a lot of games.
Speaker 6: Is going to deck. Just like I said when we
Speaker 6: went over those odds for the favorites to win MVP,
Speaker 6: I mean, it's Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts, and I
Speaker 6: don't think Hurts. I would love to pull NBA, I
Speaker 6: mean NFL GMS and see how many would take Jalen
Speaker 6: Hurts over Patrick Mahomes if you could pick. I would
Speaker 6: be surprised if there was one. Yeah, but I see
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts winning the award if they end up with
Speaker 6: the best record in the NFL, and.
Speaker 2: Then Brandon Aubrey of course could win. And if it
Speaker 2: goes twenty to twenty one, that missus three.
Speaker 6: Pat yeah, yeah, he could also.
Speaker 4: Absolutely he could be up there.
Speaker 1: So any objections, Isaiah, Nope, none, You just focused on tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I'm game ready.
Speaker 2: H eight eight says, is John not going to be
Speaker 2: at the best show of the year. I said, if
Speaker 2: I can get up at five am in Hawaii to
Speaker 2: watch your show every day, which, by the way, salute
Speaker 2: to you, Salute to you. John has to make the
Speaker 2: show tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Yes, I have to see how we words. Me not
Speaker 6: being here probably has nothing to do about when I
Speaker 6: can wake up. That's not the dedication. Yeah, probably got
Speaker 6: the wrong guy for that. We'll leave it at that.
Speaker 6: That's probably not the thing that's the issue.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's a contract thing.
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say, I would love for
Speaker 2: John to be there. I would love for anybody upstairs
Speaker 2: who can be here. We could phone John in, but
Speaker 2: that I mean, that's not the same.
Speaker 5: Oh he needs to see this, Yeah a lot.
Speaker 6: Even if I'm not here, I'll be here.
Speaker 5: In you guys can video chatty.
Speaker 2: Even so, if you are listening to this podcast via audio,
Speaker 2: which we love our audio listener, you'll hear it all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 5: You will hear it.
Speaker 2: But I would encourage you to go on the YouTube,
Speaker 2: to go on the Twitter, to go on the website
Speaker 2: and watch it in person, watch it actually see the
Speaker 2: video of what is happening.
Speaker 5: Maybe also a live streaming on ig.
Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, you can maybe do like a behind the
Speaker 1: scenes live stream.
Speaker 5: I don't want to take away from here.
Speaker 6: I've already called YouTube. They're gonna come out here.
Speaker 4: Oh sweet, you're such a phenomenal hater.
Speaker 2: We've got hard knocks, We've got an NFL network crew
Speaker 2: coming in NFL films.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got all of it happening.
Speaker 5: Goodness. Just in case you didn't know, Sweet Bill, I
Speaker 5: really do foresee us having a whole little We're gonna
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Speaker 6: Around the building, and then what really happens. This is
Speaker 6: just one person. Yeah, this man is just eating an
Speaker 6: entire bag of these chips and it's not even bothering.
Speaker 4: Them at all, and everyone's just like, I'm just dowsing,
Speaker 4: probably not being such a realistic.
Speaker 2: All right, that does it for us here today on
Speaker 2: Talking Cowboys. Hope you had as much fun as we did.
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow, John real quickly. Who you picking
Speaker 2: on Sunday?
Speaker 6: Same score A last week forty to seven Cowboys. I
Speaker 6: just sorry, I understand in the locker room. I don't
Speaker 6: know if you've noticed this. People are trying to bring
Speaker 6: along the storyline of you know, this could be like
Speaker 6: Arizona again. Yeah, that's not happening. I don't seven.
Speaker 2: Well done, Well done, John Matchoda, appreciate you as always
Speaker 2: for Chris be Isaiah stand back, John Mitchoda, Nick Harris,
Speaker 2: and Kyle Gyemans saying.
Speaker 1: So long from the Star in Frisco. We'll see you tomorrow.
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