WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Tune in Tomorrow 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:03.360 The following. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.400 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.160 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.160 Cowboys. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:17.520 This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:18.880 World Headquarters. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:27.600 At the Star in Frisco, Second dot Kitsondown, and now 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:34.639 your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.720 It's a Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.839 Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco in the. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:57.000 S WBC studios. Today we have QB vision. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.880 Isaiah Standback breaks down the Carolina Panthers defense and. 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.800 When they bring to the table, don't laugh. It's an 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.240 NFL team. We can talk about this. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.759 John Machoda, Nick Harris, of course, Isaia stand Back. We've 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.880 got Chris Beaman in the back of Kylie the almost gentleman. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:15.680 How we do it today? 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.040 Doing good, doing fantastic. I made a stop at Wingstop 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:20.040 last night to prepare. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.000 Did you you're trying to trying to. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.240 Prepare the pallette? 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:30.160 You can't. Yeah, I got the blazing you know, I 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:31.920 ate about ten of them things, and you know my 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.800 mouth is good and numb, so I'm ready for tomorrow. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:35.279 Nice. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.120 I love that you got in practice. 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.760 That's yeah, absolutely absolutely. I'm a guy who likes spice 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.040 like this is why I initiated this bet to be 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:43.520 getting with. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.400 But trying to calibrate. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:46.680 But yeah, I feel like we still need to train 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:47.400 for this. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.200 Yeah, failed to prepare prepared. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:50.680 Never heard of mouth. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:56.200 Calbra Hey, you might be a fan of jogging. You 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.960 might might love going on on a nice, just normal job, 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.400 but whenever you're out there sprinting for twenty six miles, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:04.000 it's different. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:05.000 That's different. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.560 That's what That's what Nick's doing on this on Friday. Yeah, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.520 that's what he's trying to do. 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.760 Like Ceed Lamb, he said he's a top receiver in 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.400 the NFL, but he's not just going to go out 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:14.480 there and not warm up before. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.920 Sometimes somebody, did you just compare yourself to Ceedy Lamb. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.320 I am the CD Lamb of eating spicy food. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.120 Oh wow, I will say that there is a receiver 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.120 though that used to brag about that. Maybe it was 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.920 Randy about eating spicy food, know about not warming up, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.560 I don't need to stretch or something. It might have 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:32.120 been Randy. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.160 It sounds like something Chatto Joe saying Okay, it's. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:36.480 One of those two. Yeah, I don't even need to 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.000 warm sound. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.040 Yeah, I don't know either way. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.960 Spicy Food Day is tomorrow, Johnny, You're going to try 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.440 and stop in tomorrow. I'm thinking about it, think about 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.600 maybe popping in just for the second segment. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.520 And if I won't, if I'm not here, I will 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.560 be to feeling we hire an audience, I think we should. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:58.040 I think if if we can get everybody upstairs down here, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:02:59.919 I'll try. I'll start to stress. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.720 Might have send me a message. Somebody who watches our 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.959 show religiously. I think he works at a prison. He's like, 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.560 I'm not have to walk out the prison and go 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.040 watch this. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:08.960 It's like, that's awesome. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.320 People have like countdown time ers. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.560 Yes, some days though this place would be more difficult 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.320 to get into though. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.760 Oh yeah, this place specifically. I was in the lunch 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.040 room yesterday and I was waiting in line and I 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.120 got a tap on the shoulder. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:20.960 It was Will McLay. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.440 Will McClay came up to me and he goes, man, 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.239 I heard about your hot sauce bet. And I was like, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.239 oh really, He's like, what are you doing on Friday? 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:30.600 You want to come down. You want to you want 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.079 to hang out? He was like, nah, dude, I don't 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:32.840 want to watch you cry. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.040 And I was like, whoa me? 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:35.080 How to get to me? 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:35.480 He's like wha. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.640 I was like, let it be known. I was not 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:39.520 the one that lost the bat. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.040 There were a couple of people that tweeted at us 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:42.520 on Sunday too that thought I was the one that 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.960 lost the bat. My agreement was that if it was 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.480 a push, if it was in even one hundred, I 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:48.720 would do it with both of you guys. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.440 That's what it was. There's rights for that comment. 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.960 But the uh but yeah, he was like, I don't 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:56.440 want to watch you cry and I was like, oh, well, no, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.920 it's actually Nick carras doing And he was like, oh really. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.240 I was like, so does that injured? 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.600 Do you want to come watch it now? He's like, nah, good, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.400 he's got busier things to take care of. So tomorrow's 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.000 second segment key matchups with the Hottest third, Hottest Hot 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.920 Sauce in the Country, Hottest segment of the year. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.480 Oh there we go, bang like that bar. Speaking of 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.279 the hottest segment, let's get into news and no. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:23.160 Stupid absolutely, let's uh goodness, gracious I had something immediately 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.280 ready and now here I am fumbling trying to get 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:25.560 it ready. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:27.440 Yeah it is. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.320 I'm just sitting here thinking about spice and it's like, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.839 oh my god. Okay. The Cowboys practice report came out yesterday. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.440 A lot of people were on it, but everybody was 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.160 listed as a full participant. Will run down Rego Dawdle 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.000 with an ankle injury, Villiamifojoko with a knee injury, h 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.480 Jordan Lewis with a neck injury, Osa Digizua with the 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.520 hamstring injury, Jalen Tolbert with a knee injury, and Cavante 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.320 Turpin with his shoulder injury that he that forced him 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.520 to miss the game against the Giants. And then also 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.720 Peyton Hindershot was activated or not activated. He his practice 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.640 window was opened so that he could could be activated 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.960 on the active roster within twenty one days. That actually 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.760 kind of surprises me. I didn't expect him to be 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.960 brought back this season, but they opened his practice window 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.160 and it looks like they're opening up the possibility of 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.040 having four tight ends on the roster if they want 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:09.640 to bring him back. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.039 You think that could happen as soon as this week. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.120 The thing is pretty quick. It goes back to our 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.240 conversation yesterday. It's like, who do you who do you 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.520 take off the active roster? And I'm just not sure 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.039 at that point. Yeah, I'm not sure at that point. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.960 But four tight ends is it's not unheard of, but 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:25.880 it's it's kind of wild. 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.480 Uh when you hear that name, Isaiah, which one worries 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.240 you the most? Those names on the list, which one 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.360 would you, uh, would you be more concerned about? 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.320 To run them through it? 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:40.440 Yeah, go through one more time. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:45.240 Rico, Daudovilliamifojoko, Jordan Lewis, Osa, Digizua, Jalen Tolbert Cavante Turpin. 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.680 Mine would be Osa this week this is Osa was 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.320 a neck, right, This week it will be Rico. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.760 Oh it's a hampster. Okay, Who's is the neck? 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:55.599 Was Jordan Lewis? 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.640 Oh yeah, that's right? Differ this week it will be 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.440 Rico because I believe that the box that was left unchecked, 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.120 as we mentioned a couple of days ago, was the 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.680 run game, and I believe they need to get the 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.200 run game going, and I think that they can get 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:08.400 it going, and I believe that if he's not there, 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.240 that impacts that tremendously impacts their effectiveness and what they're 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.719 trying to do in terms of trying to get Tony 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.200 Pollard going. So I think they need that one two punch. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.560 I think they realized that last week, and if Rico 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.480 is unavailable because of that angle, then I believe that 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:28.400 that obviously puts a halt to that development. And this 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.120 is a developmental week for that offensive line in this 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.720 and this running running game. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.720 For me, it's Jordan Lewis. I think when you're going 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.120 up against the skill group like the Panthers have, I 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.240 think you need your entire secondary and I would love 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.520 for Jordan Lewis to be able to get some good 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.240 reps against guys like DJ Shark and Adam Thielen and 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.840 so on and so forth. Additionally to that is the 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.440 Panthers practice report looks like DJ Shark is making some 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.840 headway in his elbow injury. Looks like he could be 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.279 ready to go. Hayden Hurst popped up with a concussion. 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.960 He did not practice yesterday, so that would obviously be notable. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.200 Aside from that JC Horn earlier this week, I know 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.280 we talked about it. His practice window was open. Still 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.440 unsure if he'll be activated before Sunday, but he was 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:09.760 limited yesterday in practice. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.480 Any of those names concern you overall, John. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.240 Not with the Panthers, but Thosa, Diggi Zoo with the hamstring. Yeah, 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:22.200 the Cowboys does a little bit, just because I wrote 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.240 an article the other day for The Athletic about who 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.000 I think are the top ten and I added an 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.520 additional five at the bottom most important players for the 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.560 rest of this season, and I had Osa in my 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.760 top ten just because of one his value and then 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.200 two just the position he plays and where the depth 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.440 is with the rest of the team in the middle 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.920 of the defensive line, and he's just so valuable to 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.120 that defensive line. And in hamstrings, you just never know, 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.400 I mean like they can kind of be annoying and 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.000 be something you're dealing with for you know, several weeks. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.840 So whatever it takes to get him healthy, if that 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.600 means limited as reps this week, you do what you 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.400 gotta do for sure. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.240 Also not to mention the one of the things it's 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.000 that plays into his strengths from most of the standpoint is. 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:04.880 His get off. 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:08.040 It's the motor, it's the way he can he can 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.680 explode off the line of scrimmage, and if he's dealing 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.560 with a ham tring, that's probably going to be hindered 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:13.440 just a little bit. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.600 To go along with what John just said. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.520 In terms of the importance of what he brings to 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.920 the interior of that defense, He's been a big part 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.360 of how this run defense has taken a step forward 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.280 and taking a step in the right direction this year. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.680 Yeah, but also, let's say worst case scenario, OSA, I 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.680 think he's can't go, you know, does that open up 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.120 more opportunities for guys like Manzie Smith and Nevill Gallimore 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.800 and against a team where you know their run game 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.760 obviously isn't the most effective in the world. Would it 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.400 be valuable to get reps for those guys in that 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.480 instance At the same. 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.280 Time, probably, yeah, probably, Yeah. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.480 Then, I mean, I don't know if I love having 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.199 one of our better players out on the defense exactly. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.960 I'm just saying, like, it's not the worst case, It's. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:55.120 A very positive way to look at it. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:56.079 I appreciate that. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:01.199 I wouldn't even really try to be positive. Next thing 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.280 we were we were in the locker room yesterday, and 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:05.959 wasn't a ton of guys in the locker room they've 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.839 kind of moved to a different practice schedule of the 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:09.640 course the last couple of weeks looks like that's gonna 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.200 be mostly the schedule moving forward. Whereas like Wednesday, whereas 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.360 typically they held a light practice, instead, they're doing a 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.559 light walk through later in the day and we have 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.000 locker room much earlier in the day where you know, 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.120 some guys are in, some guys are out. We were 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.079 able to talk to Marquis Bell and talk to a 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.520 lot of guys honestly about just the LVE injury and 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.440 how it impacts everybody, but obviously the linebackers it impacts 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.120 a lot more. With Marquis Spell and Damont Clark, and 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.559 Marquis Bell was talking about how him and DeMont Clark 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.800 have you know, come into this year and they've really 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.040 bonded because they've been in that second level together and 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.880 they've been able to grow in that second level. They're 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.400 both second year guys, both came in together last year, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.439 and both of them were able to just kind of 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.000 bounce stuff off each other. It was really good to 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.439 just hear that out of Marquise Bell, and he's really 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.679 confident moving forward that he can, you know, man down 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.640 that second level as the year goes on. There was 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.719 a question I asked him towards the end. I was like, 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:04.600 do you feel like, do you feel like you need 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.040 to bulke up? Do you feel like it's taken a 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.840 little bit more of a physical toll on you as 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.439 the season has gone on, since you're, you know, a 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.719 little bit of a smaller linebacker. He's like, no, I 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.240 feel great. He's like, if anything, I'm faster because I'm 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.120 getting around these offensive linemen. So it was good to 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.439 hear from Marquis. He's a guy that doesn't really talk 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.079 too much whenever you do get him, but he was 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.480 very open yesterday and had a lot of good things 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:23.760 to say. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.679 Both he and Demone Clark both talked about the emotional 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.240 significance of Layton vander Esch being out for the season two. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.240 And I thought the way that they kind of outlined that, John, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.160 you were in there too, but the way they outlined 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.120 that yesterday was it was pretty indicative of how much 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.040 of an impact l the has had on that defensive side. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:45.079 Yeah, I'm really surprised with how, like when you mentioned 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.920 Bell has been able to fill in for Layton, Yeah, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.760 just because of the significant drop off. We've seen in 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.960 the past when he has gone out, But yeah, there's 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.679 no question. I mean, he's just been around for a while. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.280 I mean he's been around a long time by NFL years, 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.240 So those defensive guys are all familiar with him, just 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.640 because he's been one of those guys that he's looked 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.400 at as one of the faces of the team's defense. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.439 So yeah, there's no question. Yeah, that's a that's a 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:09.240 big loss for them. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:11.280 What about you got for news and notes? 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.199 This is the last thing it was. It's on the 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.120 same note Damon Clark talking about LVE and how he's 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.959 been in meetings ever since he has been injured, and 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.599 how he's been on the sideline. He's been taking the 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.760 road trips with the team and just being very involved 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.080 with everything that's going on. This is what Damone Clark 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:28.760 had to say. I'm going to support him because that 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.280 was a guy that was with me every step of 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.199 the way when I was rehabbing coming off my neck 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.600 injury that he suffered last year. He said, don't worry 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.240 about me, I'm going to be straight. That just speaks 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.120 to the type of warrior he is. He's going to 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:39.839 help us. I talked to Layton all the time. I 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.160 look up to Layton. That's someone that does everything the 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.160 right way. To me, that's way more important than the 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.920 football player. If I never play another down with Layton, 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.319 that's my brother. So definitely a lot of impact off 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.439 the field that Layton is still able to bring. But 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.240 it was it was interesting to see how impactful he 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:56.800 really is. Talking to the players this year. 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.199 How much of an impact have you seen, Because I 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:01.440 know you're really close with the bone and you had 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.520 spoken to him during that same time period, but how 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.319 much of an impact do you feel like Layton had 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.720 on what Damon has become in that second level? 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.000 A lot. I think he was an instrumental element to 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.920 Damon Clark's growth and continued development. I think mostly from 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.120 the mental aspect, obviously trying to overcome that injury. Obviously 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.760 having been somebody who had been through something similar before. 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.760 It's always good and reassuring to have somebody that can 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:29.480 that can communicate, and from a sense of understanding, and 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.880 I think that was with the role that Vandersh played 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.720 in de Moon Clark's life and that in that regard, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.640 and then obviously from being on the field together, being 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.240 in the meeting rooms together, He's able to get that 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.600 wisdom much like the Sean Lee you know, to vander 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.880 Ash and other guys. Right, it's kind of just passing 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.839 it along, right, kind of passing the baton. And if 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.200 that was it for vander Esh, I think that he's 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.719 had a long standing impact on Damon and he will 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.000 continue to do so throughout the season. Yeah. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.880 I was going to add something here that I don't 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:58.400 want to take this thing off the track. How much 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:59.560 time I got for this first break? 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.560 We got about four minutes? 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.320 Okay, Yeah, so I did this like off the track 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.599 of the ten most important players, Mark eas bell Is 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:08.520 and my next five, I just want to run through 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.839 these real quick. Yes, year, if there's any four rejections. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:11.800 From you guys, okay, I like it. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:17.560 One is Dak two, Michaeh Parsons three, CD Lamb, I had, 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:22.400 Tyron Smith four, Zach Martin five, Tyler Smith's six, OSAs seven, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:27.120 Darron Bland eight, Ferguson nine, Brandon Cooks ten, and then 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:31.200 my next five are DeMarcus Lawrence Gilmore, Tony Pollard, Brandon Aubrey, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.520 and Marquise bell. Now this isn't just about oh, who 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.559 are your fifteen ten to fifteen best players. This is 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.920 about importance, you know, looking at the rest of the 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.679 depth chart, if you were to lose one of these 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.000 guys that drop off that you would have by it. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.800 So it's not just oh, who are the ten to 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.520 fifteen best players on the team. It's in terms of 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.640 their value to the team. That's why I had three 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.280 offensive linemen in the top six, because if you lose 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.800 any one of those guys, you know, there's just the 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.160 pieces that have to move around. A lot of things 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.439 fall apart here. And then I had Jake Ferguson on 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.679 there because I think he's really taking his game to 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.920 a different level than the other tight ends and if 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.640 you were to lose him, like they have other tight ends, 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.319 but I don't think that they're on the level of 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:07.720 the level. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.760 Oh we have a question, Yes, it's how's it going? 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.880 You omit it? Somebody? Okay, Brandon Aubrey. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.680 Well he's no, okay, So I have him next to five. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:18.120 He's in. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.040 He's in my next five. I did not have him 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:21.920 in the top ten. But yeah, no, I'm trying to. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.120 Catch John Slip. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.040 A lot of thought in this. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.560 When I heard you started talking about the depth chart, 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.480 I'm like, well, who is your backup kicker? 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:33.520 He's not, He's not in the rosn. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.720 I feel more I don't have Well who was it 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.480 that just had a backup kicker and it was like 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.520 the running back or somebody like the Texans. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.160 Yeah, yeah, for an Yeah, for an individual game. That's 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:45.600 not like they're gonna be like, Okay, that guy is 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:46.320 gonna be it for the season. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:46.840 That's our guy. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:48.880 You got a better chance to find a kicker on 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.960 the street than you do, being like any number one 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.400 tight ends out of there want a step into our 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.560 offense right now, any any defensive tackles. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.240 To be fair, you kind of did find your kicker 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.160 on the street left tackle? 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.520 Anybodynybody out their left tackle. 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.960 Literally on his couch playing where did you have d 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:01.360 law at? 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:02.200 Uh? 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.240 He was the first of the next five. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.080 Right, first of my next five. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:05.800 Yeah. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:07.360 I think the only thing I would and that's only 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.960 because of the depth that I think the only guy 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.560 that I would maybe include in the top ten is 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.480 Tony Pollard. Just yes, I think it's really important for 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:18.280 him to get going for this team, to find longevity success, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.400 if that makes sense. Yeah, And then I was thinking 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.120 about Marque Spell, but I think Marques Spell is a 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.640 good like next five type guy, just because yeah, yeah, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.520 the depth is bad at linebacker, yes, but yeah, I 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:29.640 think he's important to Tony. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.760 Poller was the only name that kind of flagged for me. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.240 But when you're talking about depth chart and ways that 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.200 they could fill the void, they have three other guys 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.080 they feel really confident in where he go, doubt on, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:40.680 Malink Davis and Douce Fawn. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.680 If I did this a week ago, I might not 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.440 have had Tony just looked as a freak go. The 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.880 way he played kind of impressed me in a sense 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.880 of I knew he can do what he did in 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.440 that game, but to actually see it, you're kind of like, okay, 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:54.320 that that adds to the value. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.720 Who were your eight, nine, ten guys, because that's that's 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.080 about as high as I would put Tony. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:00.640 I don't think i'd put him up above any of 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:01.800 the offensive lineman. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.200 Just I mean, obviously have Gilmore's I just think it's 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.680 real thin at corn. If you're losing, I would keep 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.120 it on there Ferguson was nine and then Brandon Cooks 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.800 was ten, because again I think there's a lot of 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.600 separation between Brandon Cooks and then whoever. Like, I feel 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.200 like you can really count on Brandon in a big 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.760 moment if you need to, if a team's completely taken 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.720 CD away, I don't feel as strongly about what comes 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.080 next on the on the depth chartway, I. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.760 Would probably take Pollard and put him above Ferguson. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:27.720