1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two on this Thursday, Dan and the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Dan Ens Dan Patrick Show. The Great Doris Burke from 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: the Mothership covering the NBA Finals will join us coming 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: up a little bit Game one tonight, respect our time zone. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: The Heat versus the Nuggets at eight thirty Eastern Momentum 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: is one of the more impressive important aspects of a 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: championship team. It's hard to quantify what it is and 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: is it tangible or not. Back in two thousand and eight, 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: the Giants had a hot streak. They rode that to 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. They had momentum. The Atlanta Braves in 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, they had an unbelievable second half of 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: the season turned that into a World Series. The Heat 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to recreate that success in full rhythm after 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: going seven with the Celtics, and they bring momentum to Denver. 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: The Nuggets are operating off ten days of rest coming 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: into Game one. Teams with similar rest have gone ten 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: and six to open the NBA Finals, and to make 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: matters worse for the Heat, teams that open at home 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: with five or more days of rest than their opposition 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: have won just under ninety percent of that Game one. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: After knocking off the two top seeds in the East, 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: it would be foolish to count out the heat. Miami 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: certainly will have their work cut out for them in 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: Game one. Teams that with the home court advantage and 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: the rest of at least five days going into Game 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: one eight to one all time in the NBA Finals. 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: The only loss in a Game one for a team 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: that had the home court advantage and a rest edge 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: of at least five days the nineteen ninety eight Utah 31 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Jazz against the Last Dance Chicago Bulls Woo Fowl. 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: Stall of a day, stall of to day, Stallata Day, 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: Stantata Day. 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: This is the style of the day. Stat of the 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: cards of the day. Patrick's show, TV's biggest Drama is back. 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: Head to the Dutton Ranch and stream the latest season 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: of Yellowstone on Peacock. Say good morning. Those watching on 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: Peacock are streaming partner. Thank you for downloading the app. 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: You can dial us up Operator Tyler standing by Seaton. 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: Poll question for hour two is going to be what 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: well I have one? 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: That might be two meen to just kind of our brand. Uh, well, 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: I have tougher to admit still liking lymp Biscuit or 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 3: having a barbar our tattoo. 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Drew. I'm sorry Drew. A New Mexico called 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: in and you want to know why you're making fun 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: of Limp Biscuit out of nowhere? Yes, people are. 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: People are like sort of upset, Like you guys realize 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: there's more bands from Florida than just those two. Right, 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: How have you not talked more about Tom Petty? It's like, 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: I know, we did. I know that we did. We 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: just focused in on these two. 54 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: We're just fun Creed and Limp Biscuit. How have you 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: guys not mentioned Lenyard Skinnard? YESU Yeah. 56 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: If we're going to celebrate great bands, that's not what 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: we do. 58 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: No, no, anybody can do that. 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: By the way, A guy I went to college with 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 5: he's in the medical field, like medical technology. Back in 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: the nineties, he started investing in tattoo removal technology. 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: He retired when it's a great question. He's got a 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: hell of a nice boat. 64 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 65 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: He leases tattoo removal equipment to doctors and dermatologists and 66 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 5: he's on easy street, he saw the future. 67 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: Okay, it's passive income at this point. Yeah, so so income. 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: That was the mean spirited one about lymp biscuits. 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the mean one. I have one that's 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: kind of out of the left field. The SEC limiting 71 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: the number of in conference games to eight is smart 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: or soft? 73 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: Well, if you're bringing in Texas and Oklahoma, then bring 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: him in and let's create or continue rivalries. You know, 75 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: coming in. We're just not going to play you guys 76 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: yet come in. Uh. Nick Saban was asking about paying 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: players and uh, he well, here's the question in here's 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: his response. 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: How do you feel about the idea of taking that in, 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 5: taking players believe, Yeah, I. 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 6: Have no problem with that. I mean, unionize it, make 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 6: it like the NFL. I mean, if it's going to 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 6: be the same for everyone, I think that's better than 84 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 6: what we have now. Because what we have now is 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 6: we have some states, in some schools in some states 86 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 6: that are investing a lot more money in terms of 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 6: managing their roster than other others. And I think this 88 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 6: is going to create a real competitive disadvantage for some 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 6: in the future, and it's also going to create an 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 6: imbalance in competitive nature of the sport, which that's not good. 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 7: For the sport. 92 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: All right, Yes, we would hate to see an imbalance 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: would be horrible. 94 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, none of my watch not somebody needed to say, coach, 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: it seems like there is an imbalance in college football. 96 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: How can people believe this crap when it's viewing out 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: of their mouth? I really believe that, or is they're 98 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: just zero self awareness. 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: Hey, the NCAA gave his student athlete for decades and 100 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: we're like, okay, they're student athletes, and then you realize 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: they're not. They're athletes. They're athletes. They might be students, 102 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: but they're athletes first. But they keep repeating it and 103 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: then you go, okay, that must be right. I mean 104 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: that dude didn't even know. 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, my brother in law is a pediatrician 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: and he's saving people. He doesn't make it, but yeah, 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: he doesn't get He shouldn't have brought up his brother 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: saving lives said when he's making six million dollars a 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: year at Missouri. Because I think that sometimes I really 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: believe that these dudes believe they're saving lives too. Like 111 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: I think that sometimes coaches get so delusional that they're like, 112 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: you realize what I do for this place, right, I 113 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: mean some of them do, like Nick Saban, John Calpari. 114 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: They've made people billions of dollars, right, there's no doubt 115 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: about that. However, they're not God, you know what I mean. 116 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: They're not like especially if you're the coach of Missouri, 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: you're not saving people. You're helping people. There's a big 118 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: difference in being a pediatrician and being a head coach. 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 8: Yes, Marv, they might not be saving their lives. They 120 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 8: might be changing their lives, Okay, but they're not pediatricians 121 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 8: like you were saying. 122 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: But don't bring in your brother in law because he's 123 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: saving lives and he only makes this amount when you 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: make six million dollars. Just don't bring it into the conversation. 125 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: What he's saying could be correct. It's just he's missing 126 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: out on the elephant in the room and it's him 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: making six million dollars a year. But these coaches, they're 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: control freaks. They don't have control anymore. That has to 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: drive people like Nick Saban crazy because college football it's 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: you come in, you listen to me, Hey, you want 131 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: to transfer, you got to sit out a year, you 132 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL. You got to stay 133 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: at least three years in college. They've got controlled. They 134 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: don't want change, they don't want to deal with other people. Hey, 135 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: here's some snot nosed kid out of Florida wants ten 136 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: million dollars to be quarterback for my team. All right, 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: give him the ten million dollars. Go to the boosters 138 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: or your collective, whatever it is. They don't want any 139 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: change here. Why would you if you're Alabama? Right, you 140 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about an imbalance in sports, it's it's 141 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: there in college football. Now, maybe it's not as much 142 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: of an imbalance, and that bothers Nick Saban, and it 143 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: would probably bother Kirby Smart and a couple other coaches 144 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: who were there every single year playing for a national championship. 145 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 5: Yes, buy do I get what you're saying there, But 146 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: I don't get how it affects pick Saban in a 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 5: negative way. He could put together an Anisle collective as 148 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 5: big as anybody's. I mean, you're just printing money down 149 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 5: there at Alabama. And if I'm a booster, I'm getting 150 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: in line to start a collective for Alabama. And I 151 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: get access, I get access to Saban, I get everything, 152 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 5: I'm not sure where he thinks it hurts him. 153 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind when he met with the boot 154 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: Bosters last year and he talked about Texas A and 155 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: M buying all the players. He's saying to his boosters 156 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: right there in front of us, hey, we need money. 157 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: We need to do better than Texas A and M 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: is doing. And that's when you had Jimbo Fisher saying, oh, 159 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: everybody thinks he's got I know where the bear bodies 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: are very okay. That's because Alabama was able to do 161 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: it in a certain way and they did it better 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: than anybody else. And now the other schools are going, 163 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: all right, what do we need? All takes a billionaire 164 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: booster and you go, hey, do you want to know 165 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: what's it going to cost me? It's going to cost 166 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: you twenty million dollars a year. What's twenty million dollars 167 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: to a billionaire if his school is going to compete 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: for a national championship Like this isn't rocket science. This 169 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: is really simple. Everybody can do it now, and they're 170 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: even giving you more money than they're even reporting. 171 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 9: That's how it. 172 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Follow the money, folks. That's all this is is your 173 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: school is going to get you know, national attention, you're 174 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: gonna play in big games, you're gonna be on TV, 175 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: you get more enrollment there. I mean it all. It 176 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: feeds itself here. But Nick can't act like, oh my god. 177 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: The imbalance, the imbalance has been the last fifteen or 178 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: twenty years in college football. Yeah see, I mean this is. 179 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: Causing irreparable damage to the children. Yeah, of course, getting 180 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: all of this money at such an early age. I 181 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: mean it's we're never you're gonna ruining lives now with that. 182 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: And we care about these athletes when they get money. 183 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: But do we care about anybody like a tennis player. 184 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: Does anybody care when a tennis player gets millions of 185 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: dollars like you know Cocoa golf, does any make care? 186 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's got so much money, Like who's 187 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: who's taking care of her? Nobody cares? But you know 188 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: these football players, Oh, these kids, they're gonna be ruined. 189 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Really all right, it's all about the kids, Cray, it's 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: not going away. But here's the problem. College football allowed 191 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: it to get out of their neighborhood that it's now 192 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: it's gone. Now you go, hey, can you help us here? 193 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: Like we really screwed up. They need the government to 194 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: help them. And that's that's what's that's where it's going, like, 195 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: how can you help us help ourselves because we screwed 196 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: this up royally? Oh the kids they want all this money, 197 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: all right, you want to unionize, you want to make 198 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: them pay for their college education. You know that can 199 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: all be on the table here. But don't blame the 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: kids for the grown ups are the ones screwing up. 201 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: And these coaches, Oh my god, these kids they want 202 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: this money. How much you make? Nine million? But okay, 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: I understand that that's fair enough. Yes, yes, I want to. 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: Go back to that that ninth SEC football game. That's 205 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 5: a sticking point. Why isn't the SEC use this as 206 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: an opportunity. Imagine they schedule open weekend like November tenth, 207 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 5: something like that, and they have a draw in the 208 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: offseason like right now. They do it in March, and 209 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: all the teams are elible to play against each other. 210 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 5: They do ping pong balls like the World Cup draw, 211 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden it comes up Alabama's facing 212 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 5: whatever and all these teams and make it a live 213 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 5: TV event and the SEC would have a leg up 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 5: of everybody who doesn't do that. 215 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: Well, they have the best conference, they're making the most money. 216 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: But then they don't want to beat up on each 217 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: other because now Tennessee is formidable, LSU is good, Georgia 218 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: is great. Now all of a sudden, you're looking around, going, god, 219 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: do we want to be you know Texas arch Manning 220 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: maybe makes them a great team. You know it's Oklahoma 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: going to be a good team again. Well you brought 222 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: them in. Well, we don't want to play them, but 223 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: we like them in the conference here they make us money. 224 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: I just it's kind of a mixed message there that 225 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: you're you know, hoarding all these schools, but then play 226 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: each other, continue rivalries, create new rival That's what we 227 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: miss in college football. All right, don't step down off 228 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: my soapbox once again. 229 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 5: Yes, Well, the bigger problem is that there's not a 230 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: schedulings are in college football. They're missing millions of dollars, 231 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 5: billions of dollars by you know, the NFL schedules, by 232 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: the best for the fans. They're trying to put together 233 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: on a show. And Alabama opens the season hosting Middle 234 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 5: Tennessee State. 235 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and who keep it a high on that one. 236 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well that first quarter could be lovely. It's probably 237 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: not gonna work out too well. And that's a mistake 238 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: because they faced Texas week too, which is fantastic Alabama. 239 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: But college football is going to get to it's going 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: to be the NFL. They're going to eventually have to 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: get to that where you do create you have a 242 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: schedule and you don't have to have you know, zero 243 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: losses are one loss to play for a national championship. 244 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: Now you could be you know, eight and four, but 245 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: you could eventually get to the playoffs and then you 246 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: could play for a national championship. That's what happens in 247 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think once you do that with 248 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: let's say it's forty schools, they are the forty schools 249 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: that are gonna be playing, you know, in Tier one, 250 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have other ones in Tier two. 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, mart And these college football players, they could 252 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 8: be like Jason Jackson, more games, more money. 253 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 9: That got to be like an insensive. 254 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 8: If if I get to the college football playoff in 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 8: each round, I should get more money because the coach 256 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 8: is gonna get more money. 257 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: You could give nil incentives absolutely. 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What else do 266 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: we have here, Seaton, We're you gonna that's to the 267 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: pole question. 268 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to put up a few of them. You 269 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: know what I saw too where a couple of recruits 270 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: are choosing the G League instead of college. Yeah, I'm 271 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: that curious now, especially if you're a top recruit and 272 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: you can get some nil money, why go to the 273 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 3: G League? 274 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I think there is one player 275 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: who might be the number One pick next year who 276 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: went to the G League. But I don't know what 277 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: the incentives are there. You would think going to Duke. 278 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's being recruited by everybody. But you go 279 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: to Duke, you get nil money, you're on national TV, 280 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: you do what Zion did. But I'm not sure why 281 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: he's not going Yes, Paul, Yeah. 282 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: He's Madras Buzalis. He's eighteen. He's skipping college in favor. 283 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: Of the G League. 284 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: He could make they said, is he could make a 285 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: million dollars going to almost any college through NIL. 286 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: It's not clear what he could make in. 287 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: The G League. Oh, I would think he would make 288 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: more going to Duke. 289 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: You would think so. 290 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Or let's say Arkansas. Now, some of these schools 291 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: that are have a booster that you know, you get 292 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: one guy can change your whole you know, basketball team, 293 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: yes time, and don't you get. 294 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 9: The added plus for a so called student athlete. 295 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 10: If you go to college and you get injured or 296 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 10: it just doesn't work out as far as a pro career, 297 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 10: at least you'll hopefully have a college degree to fall 298 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 10: back on and do something else with your life. I 299 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 10: don't know, well how the G League takes care of 300 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 10: you if you have an injury, It's not. 301 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: Going to be there four years, So it's gonna be 302 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: one year, four months. Yeah, basically, yes, Mark, But. 303 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 8: I think they've seen the success of guys that have 304 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 8: gone into the NBA. They haven't been successful about kaminga 305 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 8: Jalen Green and Scoot Henderson. So that's three guys right there. 306 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 8: And I'm sure they're like, hey, you can go here, 307 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 8: but you don't have to go to class. You don't 308 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 8: have to do any of that stuff. You can just 309 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 8: learn how to be a professional right here, right now 310 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 8: and play against professional talent. 311 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess yeah. 312 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 8: It makes some money too. Yeah, I'm sure they're not 313 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 8: making chump change. 314 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: No, but it feels like you could make more money 315 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: if you went to one of these programs. I mean, 316 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: once again, all it takes as a booster. Who's gonna go? 317 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: All right, how much is going to take? I want 318 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: seven million dollars? All right? Seven minutes. I mean, Brownie's 319 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: reportedly getting seven million dollars to go to USC. 320 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 9: That's just from his alunge's pillow. 321 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: Dad, he loses a tooth. There's a Bugatti. 322 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Doris Burke will join us coming up next. We'll take 323 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: a break. 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Be sure to catch us 343 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to 344 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find 345 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us 346 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. They say good things come 347 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: to those who wait. The Mercedes Benz SUV family proves 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: otherwise takes no time at all. Potest, drive your local 349 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: Mercedes Ben Steeler learn more, n busa dot com. Doris Burke, 350 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame broadcaster, ESPN analyst And I believe two 351 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: time Big East, UH, All Star, All Conference as a 352 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: point guard? Is that right, Doris? Was it two times? 353 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 7: So long ago? I have no recollection? 354 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh, don't be so modest. Do you sound like a 355 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: joker here being so modest there? Who plays point guard 356 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: the way you did? Who plays point guard in the 357 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: NBA the way you did at Providence? 358 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 7: Oh? Shoot? Uh, you know I don't have a great comparison. 359 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 7: What I will tell you is I have sympathy for 360 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 7: any point guard who's a scoring point guard with no jumper. 361 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 7: So my game, Dan was this out in transition. My 362 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 7: handle was exceptional. I could get absolutely anywhere. But but 363 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 7: you know those players who coaches just back off, that 364 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 7: was me. 365 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: You were You were Rajah Rondo before Rondo bang. 366 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 7: Bang, And Jeff Van Gundy is always like, how did how? 367 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 7: And this is Jeff saying that we laugh all the time. 368 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 7: How are you a white point guard and you can't shoot? 369 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Uh? You're Doug Gottlieb. 370 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 7: I don't know. All I know is I had incredible teammates, 371 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 7: incredible coaches, and uh, you know, had it not been 372 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 7: for that, I wonder, like, you know, the game gives 373 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 7: you such joy, Dan and those I only have fond 374 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 7: memories as a player. 375 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: So we see a lot of catchers who become managers. 376 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a correlation point guards as 377 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: broadcasters or coach, Like you see the game differently at 378 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: a different angle, and the same with catchers. Uh is 379 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: there any correlation that being a point guard, how it 380 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: helps you see a game as you're broadcasting. 381 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, I do think. You know, you are responsible to 382 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 7: know every position on the floor, You know where the 383 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 7: four or the five is going to be at any 384 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 7: particular moment, and then you know, generally speaking, the balls 385 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: in your hands, so you should be communicating with everybody. 386 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 7: And so I do think there is a little bit 387 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 7: of a correlation. I get similar to a quarterback in football, right. 388 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: Who were What decides the NBA Finals? 389 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 7: Oh boy, you know, so many things are going to 390 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 7: happen over the next seven games. I can't wait to 391 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 7: see the journey. What intrigues me about this matchup? One 392 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 7: of the things that intrigues me is you have two 393 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 7: superstars who love to empower the people around them, and 394 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 7: you know, Eric Spolser has talked about Dan not being 395 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 7: able to quantify the influence that Jimmy has on the group. 396 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 7: You know, I had a vote for the Eastern Conference 397 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 7: Finals MVP, and when I texted the person at the lego, 398 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 7: I was supposed to text it two. My first text 399 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 7: was Caleb Martin that young man had played so great 400 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 7: and maybe a minute a half to go in the game, 401 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 7: I changed my mind, and yeah I did. And it 402 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 7: was hard, like that vote if you saw it, it 403 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 7: was so close, and I still don't know I made 404 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 7: the right decision. But ultimately there's that intangible leadership confidence 405 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 7: that Jimmy Butler sort of, you know, it permeates the 406 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: whole roster, and we underestimate Miami to our peril. Right. 407 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 7: They just spent seven games disavowing us of the notion 408 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 7: that Boston was the better team, and then Jokic to 409 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 7: access Jokich is brilliant. Dan. He had to come to 410 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 7: Grips with something that was probably uncomfortable for him a 411 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 7: couple of years ago, and that was there would be 412 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 7: times where he would have to flex a little bit 413 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 7: as a scorer and show off the array he had Offensively, 414 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 7: his first instinct is to pass and to make the 415 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 7: guys feel good around him. But I just love that 416 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 7: you have two superstars who want to play the right 417 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 7: way and who want to make their teammates around them 418 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 7: feel really good. 419 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: I love that fair comparison to have Joker and Tim 420 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: Duncan mentioned in the same sentence. 421 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 7: Boy, that's I think. So you know, I think you 422 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 7: know the vision with which Jokic plays the game, the feel, 423 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 7: the execution of these touch passes, the absurd passes where 424 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 7: he's you know, leading people into spaces. As his teammate 425 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 7: Aaron Gordon, who Yoker Joker described as the soul of 426 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 7: our team, he said he's a savant, So I would 427 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 7: say Tim was savant, like maybe in different fashion, but 428 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 7: you know, Nicola is a savant. And and here's the thing, 429 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 7: you know, I hope in the course of the broadcast 430 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 7: people get a sense for who this man is. You know, 431 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 7: he wears his wedding ring tied around his shoe. You know, 432 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 7: the first eyes he's looking to seek out when he 433 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 7: finishes a game. As his daughter. His family is clearly 434 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 7: important to him. He's not at all involved in the 435 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 7: NBA lifestyle. It's just something so appealing about the person. 436 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 7: Nicola could say the same about Jimmy. Jimmy wants to 437 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 7: play tennis, and he wants to travel the world in 438 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 7: the off season. He gets his work in. These are 439 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 7: two men with lives that are very rich around the 440 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 7: game too. 441 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Can you teach what Joker sees on the floor? 442 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 7: No, I don't. I don't believe so. And it's funny. 443 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 7: There's that great line where Mike Malone was talking to him, 444 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 7: and I love that. Mike said, anybody who tells you 445 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 7: they knew what Joker was going to be is full 446 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 7: of maloney. There's just no way. He showed up at 447 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 7: Summer League three hundred pounds and out of shape. And 448 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 7: you have to admire Dan. He is not the two 449 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 7: time MVP if he doesn't change the level of physical 450 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 7: conditioning an eighty two game schedule, but most particularly this 451 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 7: march to June is brutal physically and mentally. But I 452 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 7: don't think you teach it. He jokes about being a 453 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 7: fat point guard. He's like, coach, I was a fat 454 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 7: point guard as a kid goes back to that point 455 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 7: guard point you made earlier. Dan, you see it and 456 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 7: feel it differently from that position. 457 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: Can you teach what Jimmy Butler brings Miami. 458 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 7: At the start of this series. And I'm gonna be 459 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 7: honest with you, I expected Boston to win. But one 460 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 7: of the things I said before Game one of the 461 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 7: Eastern Conference Finals was Boston. I mean, Miami is the 462 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 7: most physically and mentally tough team in the league and 463 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: coached by a top fifteen coach in the seventy six 464 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 7: year history of the game, Eric Spolstro, I believe is 465 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 7: now six and one in the Eastern Conference Finals. You 466 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 7: can't teach it. The other thing, you look at the 467 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 7: growth and I do think these players, you know, Miami 468 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 7: couldn't make a shot in the regular season, Dan couldn't 469 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 7: make a shot. They are first in percentage and Duncan Robinson, 470 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 7: Gabe Benson and mostly Caleb part have been shot makers. 471 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 7: I do think they have to do it again. How 472 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 7: about Caleb Martin undrafted? I know we've made a big 473 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 7: deal of it in the Eastern Conference Finals a year ago. Dan, 474 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: they wouldn't check the kid, they wouldn't guard him. They 475 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 7: gave him fifteen feet of space and he said, hey, 476 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 7: that was appropriate. I was not prepared for the moment, 477 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 7: but shame on me if I'm not prepared the second time. 478 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 7: And that young man to deliver the way he did 479 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 7: in that series just pretty cool. 480 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: How do you think this plays out? 481 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a longer series than 482 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 7: people expect. I am curious to see how Miami feels. 483 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 7: There were points at which I thought Jimmy fatigue. I 484 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 7: thought you saw that in the middle of a series. 485 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: Kyle Lowry him as well. You know, Eric Sposter maintains 486 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 7: that Patnee is healthy, but remember they shut him down 487 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 7: for five weeks. I think that championship experience he brings 488 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 7: is significant. I think you saw that in the Eastern 489 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 7: Conference and episodically in the In the prior rounds, you 490 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 7: do get the extra rest. But we are in Denver. 491 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 7: I think it's it's at least six games. I will 492 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 7: be surprised if Denver doesn't win, but I think it's 493 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 7: going to be longer and harder than people think. 494 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: Talking to Doris Burke, ESPN NBA analyst, she'll be on 495 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: the call ESPN Radio for the NBA Finals. Best player 496 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: you saw this year was who? 497 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 7: Well? I voted Joel MBIID MVP, And I'm going to 498 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 7: say this one hundred percent, and I believe it to 499 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 7: my core. When Joel is in shape and he's engaged 500 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 7: and he's healthy, he can be every single night the 501 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 7: most influential player on both ends of the floor. He 502 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 7: has to decide now after getting the MVP, does he 503 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 7: want to follow up and be great again and now 504 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 7: advance to a place where he isn't. But a very 505 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: close second for me was Nikola Jokicic. I went one two, 506 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 7: and I will tell you those two position were, you know, 507 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 7: alternated all season. 508 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: So those two guys, would you keep James Harden in Philly? 509 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 7: Well? With Nick Nurse, I think it becomes more problematic 510 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 7: because Nick is a guy who wants to play aggressive defensively. 511 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 7: He wants you locked in for the full twenty four 512 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 7: Think about it. Dan in the twenty nineteen finals, he 513 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 7: ushers in what we see more and more of the 514 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 7: box and ones, the triangle and twos, the switching defenses, 515 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 7: the you know, I say a lot of time, increasingly, 516 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 7: it's getting hard to play in the NBA if you 517 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 7: don't think it on a high level on both ends 518 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 7: of the floor, and Nick demands a lot. The other 519 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 7: thing he does is he plays his starters a lot 520 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 7: of minutes, at least if you look at what he 521 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 7: did in Toronto. So I don't know. These are the 522 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 7: hard choices. It's the thing I understand the least. But 523 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 7: I will say this, I don't think team's success in 524 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 7: any sport is simply a matter of the collection of talent. 525 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 7: The pieces have to fit, there has to be some chemistry, 526 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 7: you have to work well. You see it over and over, 527 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 7: curious to see if Denver wins. Does that have any 528 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 7: influence and how teams are put together or the way 529 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 7: people build their organizations. They drafted well, they were patient. 530 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 7: They waited for Jamal to get healthy. Says something organizationally 531 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 7: to me. Anyway. 532 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: Also, I brought this up a couple of times. Tatum 533 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: and Brown don't compliment each other. They're sort of the 534 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: same player, whereas Jamal and Joker complement each other. Ad 535 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: and Lebron compliment each other. I think you can go 536 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: down the list of teams when they're successful, you have 537 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: those players who compliment each other. That's what kind of 538 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: concerns me with Boston. Jalen Brown's a wonderful player, and 539 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: they could have easily gone back to the finals. But 540 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: would you, you know, give him a max deal? Would 541 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: you you want to have that pair for the next 542 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: five years? 543 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 7: Right? And I think that's the complicating factor here. And 544 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 7: I was thinking about this last week because of you 545 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 7: could have two guys locked up at six hundred million, 546 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 7: and it sounds like the way the salary structure is, 547 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 7: it's going to be a high penalty to try to 548 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 7: do that. And you know, Jalen Brown's old weaknesses came 549 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 7: to bear again, his lack of a left hand, his 550 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 7: turnover issues, forcing shots at inappropriate times. But then Dan 551 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 7: I started to rifle through. Well, everybody's talking about Damian Lillard. 552 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 7: I don't know at the top of my head how 553 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 7: old Damien is. He's coming off in a phenomenal year. 554 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 7: But how many times do you see superstars acquired and 555 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 7: it not pay dividends over and over and over and 556 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 7: over again. It's these are these are hard decisions. And 557 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 7: when I tried to come up with names to replace 558 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 7: Jalen Brown, I'm thinking, oh boy, you know that's not 559 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 7: as easy as you think it is. 560 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I had somebody who's involved in this situation. They said, 561 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to get these guys. Paying them 562 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: is not the hard part as much as it is 563 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: getting the guy. And that's why he said that he 564 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: thinks the Celtics are going to resign him. What do 565 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: you do if you're the Lakers in the off season? 566 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 7: Oh, boy, well you're you're resigning Reeves. I mean, he 567 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 7: just is a better player than anybody ever expected. His 568 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 7: ability to handle and pick and roll and really absorb 569 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 7: the responsibility takes so much weight off of off of Lebron. 570 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 7: I think, no matter what you do, you need defenders 571 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 7: and shooters around Lebron and Anthony Davis. It's always about space, 572 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 7: you know. I think one thing that I was locked 573 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 7: into all year Dan was how much of a struggle 574 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 7: Lebron's jump shooting was. I mean, he could not make 575 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 7: a shot. And I kept pressing Darvin ham on what's 576 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 7: going on here? Early on in the year. He was saying, 577 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 7: it's the kinds of shots he's being forced to take. 578 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 7: There's no space. The Russell Westbrook dynamic was brutal. And 579 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 7: then he said, Darvis, remember how old he is. These 580 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 7: these things are harder now, so a lot. I thought 581 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 7: the moves they made if the deadline were critical, ruey Hachimura. 582 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 7: If he can sustain that level of play, I prioritize 583 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 7: him as well. He's big, he's fast, he's long, he 584 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 7: can offensive board, and he made shots. But to me, 585 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 7: it's always about spacing around Lebron and Ad. 586 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: I just thought Lebron started to show his age by 587 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: settling for the jumper, because I mean, all you need 588 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: is Michael Jordan to acknowledge that if he played Lebron, 589 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Lebron would be able to go right on him and 590 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: he couldn't stop him. Michael's words, it takes so much 591 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: much energy to try to get to the hoop and 592 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: get fouled. And he's not a great foul shooter and 593 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: he's not a great jump shooter. But it just felt 594 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: like that's what you do as you get older, you 595 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: don't attack the rim anymore. And that's what I saw 596 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: when people say, oh, you know, he's not showing his age, 597 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: and I said, yes, he shows it every game by 598 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: settling for those jump shots and he knows he's not 599 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: a good jump shooter. 600 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'm curious to see what his approach is 601 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 7: and the reason they wanted to play fast is exactly 602 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 7: that reason. And it's different in the regular season, right 603 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 7: you can run on teams, you can get out and transition. 604 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 7: It's at the most important time of year where defenses 605 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 7: are locked in and they say, well, we're not going 606 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 7: to let you get to your comfort zones one, two, 607 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 7: and three. You're going to have to get to four, five, 608 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 7: and six, and we're going to expose every weakness. And 609 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 7: so yeah, this goes to what everybody expected in Los Angeles, Dan, 610 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 7: and that was that Anthony Davis would be the primary 611 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 7: option and the leader in all of those things. And 612 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 7: that hasn't come to fruition. Whether it's personality or health 613 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 7: or whatever it is that's contributed to these last couple 614 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 7: of seasons for AD. 615 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: And that's the mystery because I've said many times he 616 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: was the Greek freak. Before the Greek freak. He did 617 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: everything offensively, defensively, he could shoot, he had a handle, 618 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he was nice in 619 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: New Orleans and then you play those big games in 620 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: a big spotlight and then we see who these guys 621 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: really are. And that's what's frustrating with ad is. He's 622 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: one of the top seventy five players of all time, 623 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: but there are times I don't know, he's on the floor. 624 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and it goes. And so this is what 625 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 7: draws into Sharper focus. For me, what you said about 626 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 7: a d draws into Sharper focus. A guy like Jimmy 627 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 7: Butler whose numbers in the playoffs rise his productivity as 628 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 7: a scorer, as an assist guy. As you know efficiency, 629 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 7: it takes something different at this time of year to succeed. 630 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 7: And this is why you know Jokic, you know the 631 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 7: criticism and why you know some people say, well, I'm 632 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 7: not going to vote for him, three time MVP, whatever 633 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 7: the case. Maybe he hadn't had success in the playoffs, 634 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 7: had argument's laid to rest. Now he's appeared in the 635 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 7: finals and a very good chance to do it. But 636 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 7: I would say this to you. I saw I don't 637 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 7: know who was debating it, but somebody was saying something, 638 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 7: it's Jimmy Butler, a Hall of Fame guy, if he 639 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 7: should win the NBA finals. I put that. I was interested. 640 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 7: I haven't given it much thought. I don't know if 641 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 7: it's something stretch you immediately about that for you. 642 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: Well, if factor in college and did he have a 643 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: remarkable college career? Oh, and so he's bounced around with 644 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: these teams. He finally got his team in Miami. You know, 645 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Philly wanted what Tobias Harris instead of him, and what 646 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: happened in Minnesota and then Chicago. It feels like he's 647 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: pretty damn He's on the doorstep. He's right there to 648 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. But it's tricky. I got 649 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: into this conversation with Reggie Miller the other day. I said, 650 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: is Al Horford a Hall of Famer because he won 651 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: two titles in college? So if I factor in that, 652 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: then is he a Hall of Famer? He's part of 653 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: a championship team. I don't know, does it feel to you? 654 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just, you know, feeling like I feel 655 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 7: like almost NBA success seems like it's more important for 656 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame credential. I'd have to like do a 657 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 7: deep dive or have somebody for research and ESPN do 658 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 7: a deep dive. It's a great point, you know, you 659 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 7: forget about the back to back titles, the appearances in 660 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 7: the in the Eastern Conference finals. So it's a great question. 661 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 7: Great Toby who knows. 662 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know, Hey, great talking basketball with you 663 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: and always yeah. And the older you get, the better 664 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: you were when you were in college. Just that's what 665 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: I always say. And you're wearing your Providence You got 666 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: your Providence gear on, don't you. 667 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 7: If it's free, it's if it's free, it's for. 668 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Me, Dan, and I'll take three. Doris, thank you very much, 669 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: have fun tonight. 670 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 9: Thanks. 671 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: That's Dorisburg, Hall of Fame broadcaster. She'll be on the Call, 672 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: by the way, first woman to be a signed NBA 673 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: Finals game analyst role on any platform radio or TV. 674 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: She'll be with Mark Keistercher Good, Buddy Mark, and PJ Carlstimo. 675 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: That'll be tonight on ESPN Radio. Can insult your local listings. 676 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: That'll be at eight thirty. We'll take a break back 677 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 678 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine 679 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: until noon Eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports 680 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: Radio and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app 681 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: at FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. 682 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: Hey Gag this Jay Glaser, host of Unbreakable, a mental 683 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: health podcast, and each week we try to help turn 684 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: our mental health issues into mental wealth, and we dive 685 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: in with everyone from a world of sports and entertainment 686 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: like Sean McVay, Lindsey Vaughn, Michael Phelps, David Spade, Got Fiemmy, 687 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: and also those who can help us in between the ears, 688 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: anyone from a therapist to someone like Ed Milette for 689 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: John Gordon. So each week listen to Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, 690 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: a mental health podcast on iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts or 691 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: wherever you get podcasts. 692 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a stab at this. Paul Young blo, Okay, 693 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: why are we playing this? 694 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 9: Or we're saying bye to the cheese It Bowl? 695 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 1: Oh r oh, I sent this. I sent this story 696 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: to PAULI yesterday and I know, why. 697 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: Would you do that? 698 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: Because we love the cheese It Bowl but it's going away, 699 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: and uh, the name cheese It Bowl is going away. 700 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: But then I said, they but the substitute is pretty tasty. 701 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 4: But three years of cheese at Bowls will never. 702 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: Long long history of the cheese It bawls. 703 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 5: In my heart, They're never going away. Okay the cheese 704 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 5: It Bowls. Starting this season, Dan will be replaced by 705 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 5: possible upgrade in some Pe Bowl, the Pop Tarts Bowl. 706 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 5: Dan he played down in Atlanta, the Pop Tarts Bowl. 707 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 5: The logo is there, it's ready to go. 708 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: Wait, so it's not gonna be in Orlando. It's gonna 709 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: be in Atlanta. 710 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 5: No, sorry, it's gonna be in Orlando. Yeah, it's gonna 711 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 5: stay in Orlando. That's a tradition. It's not going away. 712 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 5: So instead pouring a bucket of cheese, it's on the 713 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 5: winning coach. You're gonna slap them with hop charts. Do 714 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 5: you want to know the history of cheese it's bowled inn. 715 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you know it. 716 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: I should say. 717 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: All I know is NC State dominated the Cheese It Bowl. 718 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 5: That's correct if you go back. It started as the 719 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 5: Block Bolster Bowl in ninety. Then it became the Carquest 720 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: Bowls and the Micron PC Bowl in the Micron PC 721 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 5: dot Com Bowls, and the Visit Tangerine Bowl, the Mazda 722 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 5: Tangerine Bowl, the Champs Sports Bowl great run almost nine years, 723 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 5: the Russell Athletic Bowl and then the Camping World Bowl. 724 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 5: Some of the MVPs, Phil Rivers twice, Russell Wilson once, Okay, 725 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 5: Teddy Bridgewater one at once. 726 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: So the The cheese It Bowl is the pop Tarts Bowl, 727 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: not the pop Tart It's the pop Tarts Bull. 728 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, pop Tarts plural, Yes, pop Tart's Bowl. 729 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 10: If you were to indulge in a pop Tart, fruits 730 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 10: or do you go with like the s'mores of the 731 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 10: chocolate ones and toasted or not toasted? 732 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: Would be part two. 733 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 9: Of that question. 734 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: Give me a strawberry pop Tart, little icing on it 735 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: right out of the package. You gotta have icing on it. 736 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: If there's no icing on it, just throw it in 737 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 3: the garbage. 738 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: Good to go, Good to go. Could we sponsor a 739 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: bowl game? Jimmy Kimmel did this? How much would it 740 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: cost for us to sponsor? Like if we did Tailgate 741 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Moonshine Bowl? 742 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 7: Yeah? 743 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, now you're talking. What if we did Pennies 744 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: Bang Biscuits Penny Bang Biscuits Bowl? That Yes, that is 745 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: a winner and a half. 746 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 4: The IT team's on this. 747 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 748 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 5: So there's come ben some change with the Bull system 749 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 5: beyond the Traumatic cheese At Bowl going away, the pop 750 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 5: Tarts Bowl, The Military Bowl has new logos. The lending 751 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 5: Tree dot Com Bowl is now the sixty eight Ventures Bowl, 752 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 5: whatever that may be and the Holiday Bowl currently sponsorless. 753 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 5: Oh nothing says Holiday like a little moonshine. The La 754 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 5: Bowl is just the La Bowl on that right now. 755 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 5: Apparently Jimmy Kimmel is out. Okay, Kimmel's out. I did 756 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 5: a lot of research. I think you could get a 757 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 5: bowl sponsorship for under a half a million dollars. Under 758 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 5: half a million, yeah, I think if we're looking for 759 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 5: a minimum of three hundred thousand, Okay, I think five 760 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 5: hundred thousand will get it done. 761 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, man, I need to boost those 762 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: Tailgate moonshine sales. This is a way to do it well. 763 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: But we can only make so much and we sell 764 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: out right away. If I could mass produce the Tailgate moonshine. 765 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 3: I feel like we lean into the penny angle, Penny 766 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: Bang Biscuits, Pennies Bang Biscuits Bowl. 767 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 5: The Bang Biscuits La Bowl presented by Penny Tailgate Moonshine. 768 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 4: You could double dip it. 769 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 10: Yes, you have one of those dog shows that they 770 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 10: do at Halftimes, Captain Frisbee is going through a ring 771 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 10: of fire. 772 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: People love dogs, They're not going to go through a 773 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: ring of fire. I don't want to like a poodle 774 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: catching on fire. That will get a lot of free 775 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: publicy it would. I'll keep an eye on this, Yes, 776 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: please do, please do? Uh? Jesse and Iowa, Hi Jess. 777 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: What's on your mind today? 778 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 9: Hey Dan, I have a suggestion for the cookout playlist? 779 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: Oh okay, the Cookout playlist by Marvin for tomorrow. 780 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 10: Yep. 781 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 7: They's a band called Big Gigantic somehow Bowlder and they 782 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 7: team up with grizz and have a song called good 783 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 7: Times Roll. 784 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: All right, they're probably a double entendre in there with 785 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: a good Times Roll. But thank you, thank you for 786 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: that suggestion there, Mark, Yes, Mark. 787 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 9: Do we know the results so far? 788 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 7: No? 789 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 9: Okay, can't reveal them. No, I'm just saying right now, 790 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 9: who's in the least? 791 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea right now in the lead. 792 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's it's closer than I thought it 793 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 3: would be. Right now, Florida's got fifty seven center of 794 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 3: the vote. Okay, bands from Florida over bands from Colorado. Yeah, 795 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 3: I thought it would be more lopsided towards Florida. This 796 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 3: feels like it's the Fred Durst Limp biscuit factor. 797 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: You get that fan base and cranked up in the morning, 798 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: they're gonna. 799 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: Vote yes if they get up in the morning. Right, Well, 800 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: they have nothing to do, and it's a lifestyle. 801 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: What was our guy's name in New Mexico? 802 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 1: Drew, Yeah, Drew in New Mexico only vote once. Yeah. 803 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: He was talking about it's a lifestyle that he lives 804 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: and that we're banging on limp biscuit. 805 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 3: That I had no idea there was a limp biscuit subculture. 806 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: They like identify each other and like, hey. 807 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: All right, no, I mean you poke the bear is 808 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: what you did there? Seton? You were making fun of 809 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: the limp biscuit community. Are you distancing yourself from your comments? Okay? 810 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 3: First of all, no, not at all. And second I 811 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 3: feel like we were making fun. It feels like you 812 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 3: guys are the ones backing. 813 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it, I said, I 814 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: don't know anything about it except for fred durt. 815 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 4: You don't want that heat, you, No, I don't. 816 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: I can't take that heat. 817 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 8: Yes, Marv, Look, my wife told me she was a 818 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 8: big limb Biscuit fan. If she had told me that before, 819 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 8: she was like, Marvin, I was a really big limb 820 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 8: biscuit ban in ninety eight. 821 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 9: Real, if she had told me that, I'm not sure 822 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 9: if I'd be married to her Right. 823 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 4: Now, you're married, Doc Rivers. 824 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 9: The voice I really love, fred durs I even had 825 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 9: the hat. 826 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Your wife has a deep voice. I like what I like. Yeah, 827 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: Limp Biscuit, that might have been a deal breaker. Uh, 828 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: let's take a break, one more hour to go. Believe 829 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: it or not, Fritzy Sheton, Marv Paula yours truly. You're 830 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show.