WEBVTT - All Access: Wims talks development

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of Bears

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<v Speaker 1>All Access here from PANC Studios at Alas Hall. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Jonik and Tom There were brought to you by IGS Energy,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul's Oranger engineer and Dan Brially, our producer. Good to

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<v Speaker 1>have you with us, and good to be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Wide receiver, the second year Georgia Bulldog Javon Wims.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for giving up some of your time. How you

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<v Speaker 1>doing all right? I'm good? Thank you for having me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your debut voyage on this show, right, absolutely, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. You'll be able to Tom asks a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of serious questions. This is what he always tells every

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<v Speaker 1>guest who comes in her first, I'm gonna ask all

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<v Speaker 1>the fun questions, and then Jeff's gonna ask all the

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<v Speaker 1>serious questions. But it's such a bologny. I likes to

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<v Speaker 1>fancy himself. I have to say I have a serious

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<v Speaker 1>question to start this off. To start the show, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't even say, like how are you? We sat

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<v Speaker 1>down here and talk. But I don't like to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him off the air because I'd rather talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him on the air. So my birthday is August sixteenth

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<v Speaker 1>and Elvis Presley died on my birthday, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it forever. Your birthdays nine to eleven. Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 1>day in itself, that being your birthday, is it a

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<v Speaker 1>weird reminder every one of your birthdays? Because every every

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<v Speaker 1>birthday I have, I'm I'm fifty eight. I still remember

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<v Speaker 1>that Elvis died in my birthday. When you have an

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<v Speaker 1>event like that on your birthday, do you remember that

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<v Speaker 1>every every birthday? I remember it, but you know it

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<v Speaker 1>that's the only day I get to be selfish, So

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I think of it is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of bad to happened that day,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the civic I can say the one good

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<v Speaker 1>thing is I was born that day. Right. What are

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<v Speaker 1>your parents say about that day? I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. They don't say nothing about it, like far

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<v Speaker 1>as in the negative sense. We don't focus on like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a negative of course, we know, like it

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<v Speaker 1>happened everything, but like the only time we like really

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<v Speaker 1>focused on it was the two years, like the year

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<v Speaker 1>it happened and the year after that. But after that,

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<v Speaker 1>we just started to celebrate my birthday on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So reading stuff about you, I got you at six

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<v Speaker 1>four two fifteen, six two two twenty one and six

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<v Speaker 1>four one ninety are what are you the tallest one

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<v Speaker 1>on there? Right? No, No, I'm saying that those are

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<v Speaker 1>the three different weights and heights that I have for you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go and read things about you, you're so

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<v Speaker 1>you're six four right, six realistically six three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half six about twenty one? All right, because it's different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't know what to read be And

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<v Speaker 1>every time I see on the practice field since the

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<v Speaker 1>day you got here, I knew you weren't six too no,

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<v Speaker 1>not six too right. It's interesting because this week we

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<v Speaker 1>had a we had a Bears Um Bears event with

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<v Speaker 1>Roquan Smith downtown for Depity BBM on our Bears After

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<v Speaker 1>Dark series, and Marcus Robinson was in was in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>and Marcus was here, you know, a long time ago

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<v Speaker 1>and was a heck of a receiver. But he started

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<v Speaker 1>on a practice squad and wasn't getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity or whatever. But he was in that mode of

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<v Speaker 1>the first big way of big receivers, and boy he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was telling stories about just how the rules have changed,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, he says today he'd be tearing it

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<v Speaker 1>up because you know you were able to beat guys up.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can't. So it's interesting with that size what

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<v Speaker 1>you can do to a dbing out too with your size,

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<v Speaker 1>and what he couldn't do or what they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to do to him. And it's interesting when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to players are different Erasse. It's not that long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's interesting to me. Do you feel you have

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<v Speaker 1>that ability to deliver some punishment too because of your size? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely have an advantage, you know when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to blocking, even when it comes to catching. Um, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna use my body and ways like a basketball

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<v Speaker 1>player at box out. And you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just smaller dbs. They size really don't affect me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if the ball is around me, I'm typically can just

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<v Speaker 1>go over, I mean catching. You remember the name Rocket

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<v Speaker 1>strom As he grew up like ten minutes from Roquin.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't know him personally. He was a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a receiver here and they had a fourteen hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard season and so forth. But you know that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the value because you know, you're just you accept

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<v Speaker 1>any little opportunity that comes your way. Right now, every target.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a guy who started on the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad and they were tearing up the bear defense. He

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<v Speaker 1>and at running back James Allen at that time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they finally got their chance, and look what happened. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a really long career, great career. You just wait

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<v Speaker 1>for your mom and man, you just never know when

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a time. Anytime they come, I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>for it. But you know you're doing a good job

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<v Speaker 1>of creating your moment because throughout my career, from the

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<v Speaker 1>first game to the last game, I was on kickoff

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<v Speaker 1>return every single game I ever played. Your first block

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<v Speaker 1>on the first kickoff return for a touchdown, excellent work.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one. You set the guy up perfectly. You stayed

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<v Speaker 1>on your feet, you had a great block, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to turn around and kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to get into Patterson's path, but it wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. But you did a great job on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the opportunities that you have to perform

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<v Speaker 1>that are really going to help you expand your role

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<v Speaker 1>on this team. Oh yeah, absolutely, Special teams is a

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<v Speaker 1>major especially for a guy win seventh round. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta make your mark, or you know, find a

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<v Speaker 1>play a way to be relevant, or you know any

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<v Speaker 1>special teams, or you know, at any opportunity you get

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the field, you just gotta find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to be relevant. Would you want to stay to

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen year whole career or did you ever imagine eating

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and do a tight end? Because we've had a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of guys here in the Chicago Bears pass Emory

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<v Speaker 1>Moore had drafted out of Colorado as a kick returner

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<v Speaker 1>on a wide receiver, and he ended up finishing his

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<v Speaker 1>career in double digits as a tight end. Oh that's crazy, um,

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<v Speaker 1>with today's game, how the tight ends are not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>like your typical or your traditional tight ends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind it if that's what a team needed

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<v Speaker 1>me to do, but I would prefer to stay at receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you keep blocking like that on the kickoff return? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just wanted to tell you it was

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a job and it was nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see you get such a nice block and then have

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<v Speaker 1>the reward of the return for a touchdown. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I score him when I got down. See now you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine would have felt like around here when Devin

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<v Speaker 1>Hester was to those guys genuinely felt like they scored touchdowns. Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd the best to do it. Well. Corderell is the

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<v Speaker 1>best right now in the league. I mean he's went

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<v Speaker 1>away from mentioning the all time record. Yeah you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that eight return touchdowns. So he's one away. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking to him earlier today because he doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of talking. He's a fun guy though, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's cool and all, but he doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about himself. But he does have an edge to

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<v Speaker 1>him about this kick return thing, especially in this franchise. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he takes it serious, and um, you know I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him. I want to I want him to

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<v Speaker 1>get one more and like actually tied up this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do he's going to. I believe he is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he's willing to take it out. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many other guys that intentions. Oh, every time he's

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<v Speaker 1>back there, if it's returnable, he's going to take it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of surprised though, looking back at it,

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<v Speaker 1>because Devin returned so many and granted I knew the

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<v Speaker 1>punt return thing was was his Bailey Wick but to

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<v Speaker 1>think that the all time record is only eight and

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<v Speaker 1>now they're changing the rules, So I mean, not many

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<v Speaker 1>guys are going to be returning kick return touchdowns. They

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<v Speaker 1>got a yes, like you said, Tom, be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>take it out, but also have the ability to break

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<v Speaker 1>tackles like he does. He's so thick when he gets

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of steam. Forget about what's a bailey wick. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know it's really something. Look it up. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no that's a great question time for somebody to look

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<v Speaker 1>it up in the dictionary. I don't know. Anyway, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take our first break over Javon Wims as we

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<v Speaker 1>break down the Bears in twenty nineteen with the Young

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<v Speaker 1>Wide Receiver with Tom therem Jeff Joniak, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears getting ready to meet the La Chargers and

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<v Speaker 1>seven eighty and one or five point NFM w BBM.

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<v Speaker 1>Why the nickname Juice? Mom gave it to me? But

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<v Speaker 1>far Yes, you gave it to when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>but um far as Like when I moved to Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, I had, like I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen a movie Juice and Tupac play the character

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<v Speaker 1>Bishop and he had the haircut the box fade with

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<v Speaker 1>the part in it, and just like Tim used to,

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<v Speaker 1>every everybody called it like the Juice, the Juice haircut.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I'm moved to jack with my friends, they

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<v Speaker 1>just started calling me Juice. Did you have a haircut

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<v Speaker 1>like that? I did? Really? How long have you been

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<v Speaker 1>growing your hair? It was funny. So I used to

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<v Speaker 1>have a little hair like my whole life, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had like every hairstyle you could think of.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably have. But why why do you need to

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<v Speaker 1>change so much? Uh? I don't think of a field thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the change is like, while I can

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<v Speaker 1>grow hair, I like to at least say I did everything. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's I always avry guys with nice heads

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<v Speaker 1>of hair because I imagined the cushion under the helmets

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better than you know, putting that cold plastic

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<v Speaker 1>right on there. It is. You know, I remember this

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, Um. One day, Prince Mukamara looked at you

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, man, that dude got faster, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about you. Can you still get faster? Um

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<v Speaker 1>at this stage of your career. Is it harder to

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<v Speaker 1>get faster or did you get faster from last year?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got a lot faster and quicker from

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<v Speaker 1>last year. But that just took me like a dedication

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<v Speaker 1>in all season and just it to a discipline because

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<v Speaker 1>I had to change my diet and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>change like because I was like extremely. I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>I was overweight last year, but I wait, like probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most I have in a whole season spanning last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and to compare to now. So the food discipline that

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<v Speaker 1>you have offered you here because the food is so

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<v Speaker 1>good and there's so much of it, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do you have to watch yourself for from

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<v Speaker 1>not eating too much. Oh of course, yeah, definitely. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know when it's here and it's by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's by you know, buffet style, that problem style. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's buffet style. And usually at you know, at Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you kind of they have people say you, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're not eating that, you're not eating this, and

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<v Speaker 1>now you you know, you you're on your own. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had to just like be disciplined to tell myself okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like during camp and during um, the beginning parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, just stay on the strict mil playing certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to cut out a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't eat. Now, So, what was something you

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<v Speaker 1>ate repeatedly last year that you definitely can't eat this year? Steaks? Okay, really, see,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't think that's so bad. It's a good protein.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, it's great protein. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just stare with red meat. I'll take um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fish and you know, baked chicken and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Now, interesting, what do you have a cheat day?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? Yeah, I have to actually, Yeah, since you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we practice and I burned it off a lot. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to have too, all right, And do you run

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<v Speaker 1>this through like Jen Gibson in the nutrition department or

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<v Speaker 1>is this just your plan? Now? This is my plan,

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<v Speaker 1>but me and I've talked with Jen about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know she told me she definitely and even a

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<v Speaker 1>strength coach, uh, you know jay Z, he definitely told

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<v Speaker 1>me he wanted me to um, they want me to

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<v Speaker 1>play at a lighter weight this year. You know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the game this past week, Alan Robinson a number twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going at it so much, it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>hard not for you to pay attention to it in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the in training camp. You had a little scuffle,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you one practice? Yeah, you know so, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of you know, the analogy between the two

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<v Speaker 1>is because it looked like something got under Alan Robinson's

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<v Speaker 1>cross so bad he couldn't let it go. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember being out there at that practice. You could

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel a little bit of You can always

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<v Speaker 1>feel the tension before it actually happens. Is it the

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<v Speaker 1>same way for you as like can Alan feel it?

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<v Speaker 1>And could you feel it in that practice? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's usually you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Alan is a very calm, level headed guy. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calm. You know, I really won't say much during

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<v Speaker 1>the game unless I always like barking at me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I pretty much won't, you know, bart

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<v Speaker 1>it back. It's just it's the actions, the things that

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<v Speaker 1>people do that will get up onder me. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>can talk all you want, but once you start doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuff after the whistle, and once you started doing like

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<v Speaker 1>a little small slick stuff, and then I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I gotta protect myself, right, Yeah, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was one of the tackles that he made.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little much Gardner Johnson in that game

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<v Speaker 1>as a rookie out of Florida, but I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot if he's from Florida, but Florida guys like chatting

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, so yeah, he was. He was getting

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<v Speaker 1>under more than just Allen Robinson skin a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. But again, that's part of the game too,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a frustrating day in the bigger picture,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can you can appreciate people's emotions and so yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, let's go with that because I think

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot of frustration, you know, and in

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<v Speaker 1>the building especially on the offensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I know Mitch said, yeah, the players did

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<v Speaker 1>get together and talk yesterday, and they're not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>what it's about, obviously because it is a player's only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you feel it was worthwhile and beneficial in

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<v Speaker 1>the big picture? Oh? Absolutely? Um you notice, just guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not just speak on you know what was said,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the main thing, you know, just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys probably will hold each other accountable, you know

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<v Speaker 1>here what you guys do. Yeah, and you know the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. I'm pretty sure the chefs hold each other

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<v Speaker 1>accountable to coaches. So it's just, you know, the main thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We all striving for the same thing as to win.

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<v Speaker 1>The good thing is you are a take team. You

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<v Speaker 1>always have had, at least under Matt Naggie. Everybody enjoys

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<v Speaker 1>working with each other, going to practice and having fun

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<v Speaker 1>and playing. Obviously you'd like to have a little more

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<v Speaker 1>success on offense to get those wins. But does it

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<v Speaker 1>make it easier to talk freely when you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>all the meetual respect that you have for each other. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have you know, like I said, everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>there is no militia's intent. Everybody you know the same

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<v Speaker 1>you know the same thing. Everybody want to win. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you have you know, everybody striving for the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing and nobody have an ego issue, nobody you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pridee or anything like that is beautiful. And whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>could say how you feel and not, you know, feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're stepping on tolls. Did you play special teams

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<v Speaker 1>in college? Never? Okay, So now now you're a professional

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<v Speaker 1>and everything apps up. It's more serious now because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to the seriousness of the special team

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<v Speaker 1>meetings and it's kind of all for one and one

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<v Speaker 1>for all. If there's one segment that's suffering, everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the room and suffering and then you got to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to offensive meetings. Has that expanded the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time that you're in meetings because of you're on special

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<v Speaker 1>teams in a professional level or is it something that

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've been a part of since you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. I mean I've been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it since you know, I've been in the NFL. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always had to be in a special team meeting

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<v Speaker 1>since I don't think um, you know, I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>with a Rob and he told me, he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well. He used to be in and

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<v Speaker 1>special teams until you get a thousand yard receivers or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one hundred plus yard receiver season. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you might. I was just being there. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>better because then you have a jersey, Then you're active

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<v Speaker 1>on game day, you're part of the roster. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that was always my goal was to always to

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<v Speaker 1>be on kickoff return because I knew what if anything

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<v Speaker 1>else failed, I was still on kickoff return. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is a way that you gotta, you know, stake your

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<v Speaker 1>claim to your locker. And you look at a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Sherik that's been here, yeah, you know for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as he has. It's because of his effort on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams. Absolutely as much respect to him as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, whenever he speak, guys definitely listened. Could

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<v Speaker 1>you be a flyer on punt team now that he's

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<v Speaker 1>so he's in cont some protocol and they say, Gavan,

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<v Speaker 1>we need you as a flyer, your size, your speed,

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<v Speaker 1>Could you make a tackle? Yeah, okay, I don't show

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<v Speaker 1>what I could do it before, so I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>why I couldn't doing that. Okay, Yeah, well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's that's just not something that you do fundamentally

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<v Speaker 1>side of it. I look at it like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like playing basketball, rebounding, you know, rebounding, don't take

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<v Speaker 1>a skill, just take your effort. So special teams really

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<v Speaker 1>it takes some you know, some technique or or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's more of an effort thing with special with

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<v Speaker 1>special teams had to be extremely hard to do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of watching last season. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely tough,

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<v Speaker 1>was it or some tough moments for you week to

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<v Speaker 1>week about it? Yeah, But because mainly I'm a competitor

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to you know, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and I want to help. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to just be out there just to be out I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be out there and I want to help,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I feel like whenever I'm contributing, the

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<v Speaker 1>team have a better chance of winning. But that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the competitive side than me. But you know me watching,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it's going to be tough. But I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was still supported learn anything. Yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>would you learn that I don't want to be there again? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you had a good combine. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a good combine. I was drafting the fourth round and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been bitter because of it since you were drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>When you got drafted, and I'm bitter, is okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to hear. I'm bitter as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna help you last long. All right, two bitter guys.

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<v Speaker 1>As we get said, for the next round of Bears

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<v Speaker 1>football Week eight, coming up against the LA Chargers, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna step away here with Paul's range and Dan Borellion.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I sat down, we did a TV interview

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<v Speaker 1>for Bears Game Night, our Game Day Live a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks back, and your your journey. If people haven't

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<v Speaker 1>researched it has been, it was just kind of unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>that you had the the resilience to stay on track

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<v Speaker 1>and achieve your dream. You know, we went to a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of schools, you had to buide your time. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you maintain the patience and now, in turn patience

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<v Speaker 1>free get your big opportunity here. I always just think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Um, it's tough. It's definitely hard. It's definitely hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But to get to where I'm at now, it definitely

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<v Speaker 1>took a lot of um, it took a lot of patients,

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<v Speaker 1>took a lot of sacrifice, and you know, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had people in my corner, you know, who are root

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<v Speaker 1>for me. We're helping me and praying for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom and dad first and foremost, right, the impact

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<v Speaker 1>of those two individuals in your life. Obviously everyone wishes

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<v Speaker 1>they had that. Not everybody does get that though certainly

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<v Speaker 1>that's not not the case. But yeah, without it, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you'd be in the NFL? Probably not, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, Um, you know, my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad they both pushed me. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can only do so much individually. And I think, you know, individually,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would have I'm not gonna giving up on myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but I probably would just settled and just stayed at

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<v Speaker 1>my first school. But you know, just my mom and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad making me realize how how blessed athletically I am.

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<v Speaker 1>That it made me want to explore other options, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was a spark to get me. Did you want

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<v Speaker 1>to play or did you do something in the game

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<v Speaker 1>that made you want to play more? You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Did you want to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there every day and practice and play football or did

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<v Speaker 1>you go out there reluctantly then finally you made a

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<v Speaker 1>big catch, you made a big hit, you made something

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of excited you to keep playing the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So when I got to my first school,

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy I was in college eighteen and happy

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<v Speaker 1>I was in college or whatever. But as the season

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<v Speaker 1>went on and I wasn't really playing much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of was like, I'm reluctant to go kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just there just because I got to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the seniors went down and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to play like an old game, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>off that game and then it made me I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like easy, and I really didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>much of the plays, and I went out and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had like five catches like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yards or something like that. And it was like

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<v Speaker 1>easy for me, And I was like, Okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely if I could do that now, I definitely can

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<v Speaker 1>do that at the next, you know, another level. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a year in college that you went from seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>catches to forty five catches the next year. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? Was it study? Was it just that

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<v Speaker 1>you matured, you got batter you started to realize your

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<v Speaker 1>own talent. That it took. That was growth. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely grew in all the right areas and it

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<v Speaker 1>was an opportunity. You know, it was time. I got

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity and I didn't look back. You know. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave me more responsibility. And then as the season went off,

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<v Speaker 1>my targets started getting more and more because I became

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<v Speaker 1>more reliable and I you know, I told them and

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<v Speaker 1>I went I remember having a meeting with my office

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<v Speaker 1>recording at the time and my receiver coach and letting

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<v Speaker 1>them know, like, you know, I want the opportunity. I

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<v Speaker 1>want the opportunity to make plays and help especially you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had at the time, had Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, two decorated backs in college, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I could do is give him some help

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<v Speaker 1>so when they run the ball, so I asked for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know I produced. Did they put an emphasis

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<v Speaker 1>on blocking at the college level for you, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you come to the NFL, if you don't block,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're not willing to block, you're not gonna play. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely an emphasis at Georgia, right of course, you

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.520
<v Speaker 1>know you guys, Riley really, um, you know, we definitely

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>had to block, and not only just block corners and safety,

0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you had to block d ns and linebackers as well.

0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we definitely it was a it's a

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.719
<v Speaker 1>huge emphasis. Javan Whims, our guest here on Bears All

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Access in Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. So, well,

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you went through last year, he's going through this year absolutely,

0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Riley Ridley, So, as a rookie came in with the

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 1>label as an outstanding route runner already like prol ready

0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:49.840
<v Speaker 1>route runner. But as I was talking with your receivers coach,

0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.240
<v Speaker 1>uh the other day, he said, man, he goes it's

0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>nothing that he's not doing. It's just there's a bunch

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.120
<v Speaker 1>of guys in front of him right now. Yeah, Um,

0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 1>same thing even when I got here last year. It's

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the same thing as you know, nothing. Of course, I

0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>needed to grow in some areas and you know, same

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.120
<v Speaker 1>with Riley. You know, you never complete yet, so we're

0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>all still growing. But you know the same thing. You know,

0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.439
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing that you know we're not doing. Just you know,

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.160
<v Speaker 1>we have great guys. You know, we have a very

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.960
<v Speaker 1>good receiving room. You got a pretty good crew crew

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:22.119
<v Speaker 1>here from Georgia too. Yeah, when you look at all

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the guys on this team and what they really mean

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to the future of this Um, do you have any

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.199
<v Speaker 1>did you have any real good relationships in college with

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>those guys or were you, you know, hanging with other

0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.600
<v Speaker 1>guys in your team just because there's different ages between

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.679
<v Speaker 1>all you guys. No, definitely. I never played with Leonard Floyd,

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but Roquine played with Floyd. Me and Riley never played

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.520
<v Speaker 1>with Floyd. But um, of course, Me, Riley and ro

0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Quinn had a great relationship. Jevana Whims our guests here

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>on Chicago Sports Radio. This is Bears All Access brought

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to you by IGS Energy. In terms of exactly what

0:21:55.880 --> 0:22:00.800
<v Speaker 1>is going on offensively. How would you describe the overall

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.679
<v Speaker 1>disappointment that these things aren't working like you thought they

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 1>were as an offense and what are your discussions like

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.399
<v Speaker 1>with teammates and so forth. Uh, you know, it's not

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not disappointment. It's more so like you know, we understand,

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.679
<v Speaker 1>like with it's different defense defense. You get guys out

0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 1>there just swarm for the ball. And you know, it's

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:21.919
<v Speaker 1>not saying like defense is easier in the office, but

0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it's more easier to be productive on defense offense. It

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 1>takes time and takes trust, and we understand that this

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>thing is not going to happen overnight, and you know,

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.760
<v Speaker 1>we're still being patient with it, but we also understand

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like once it get clicking. You know, we showed last season,

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>once it's clickings, it's gonna click and it's gonna you know,

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>drive this train well. Matt talked last year a lot

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>about um Mitch and the whole offense from a one

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>on one college class to a two on one college class.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you're getting there? You individually as

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<v Speaker 1>all your assignments as a receiver, the different positions you

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 1>could line up, and even to even expand your role

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and move around and uh do things out of the

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>backfield from an H back position, from a slot receiver

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to a wide receiver. Oh yeah, I feel like, you know,

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I definitely grown a lot from last season to now

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and it shows and um, you know, I feel like

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I could do all of those things that you mentioned.

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 1>It is just you know, opportunity. You had a good

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>camp I did. Yeah, you did. You know. I think

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest catches that you know, the crowd appreciated,

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>there were you know, end zone efforts by yourself. It's

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>good to see. I heard you put your dancing shoes

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>down this week. Yeah you see that. What you see

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 1>what he did this week? Tell him what you did

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>this week? So it's pretty cool. Yeah, yesterday, yesterday, Nah,

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>it was Monday. So Monday, I um went to a

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>dancing yoga class and surprised lady who was battling breast cancer.

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.160
<v Speaker 1>But she survived. So I gotta we got our tickets

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>in the field, passed to this week's game, and a

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars gift card while with Joel Osco. But he

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>was there's there's video of it, I think at the

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>bear Fair sight. So he's and it was a lot

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of uh seniors and a lot a lot of but

0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>all survivors cancer survivers. So what what brought you to

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>that event? Well, my stubmother battle against breast cancer when

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in junior college, and you know it could

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>have been fatal, but you know she she survived and

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>she beat it. So I made a conscious effort. Anytime

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.239
<v Speaker 1>there's something I can do, you know I will do it.

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 1>And he did it. And so there's video of him

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>dancing with all these ladies. They had smiles as big

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.199
<v Speaker 1>as she's right now, and he was showing him a

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>mover too. Yeah, it was funny. I couldn't hear it

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>for some reason. I couldn't hear it. So what kind

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>of music was being played? I couldn't even tell you

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 1>what kind of music is played, but you were just

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>moving to it. It was something that got you know,

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>they were moving to it. So they're moving. I'm moving. Man.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to bring club double with you sometime

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.160
<v Speaker 1>if you go to another one of those dance classes

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and haven't put on their music at first, and then

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>bringing the dub atmosphere around the dub cancer survivor class

0:24:55.960 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>there featuring I got to host the class that might

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>got to do that. Yeah, you know, we had uh

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty four buster screen in here a couple of times.

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you know this now, but

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 1>he has been on television with Doctor Rodd, you know

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>all about all this. Yeah, he's pretty decorated. Yeah, he's

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>decorated in a workout, workout class thing. He's got the

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>whole workout thing going on. So maybe you get us

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>all out there a time or two, it'd be it'd

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>be interesting. Vine Whims, our guest here on Bears All

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score. Who

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>you who you right? Within a team? Right now? Who?

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired with? Your guys? I spend majority of my

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>time with the receivers, but farest outside of them. Uh

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>you know Bloud Nichols, that's my guy. You know, he

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>stay above me, so like I'm always around him. Who's

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>who do your locker next to? Since they put people

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>in place, it's always interesting. Leonard Floyd and Trey Burton

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Florida Gator next to me? Right? All right? Keep that

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>sec talk going? Is he chat about it? Oh? Man,

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.959
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna shut up at all. He's always talking about Florida.

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing about SEC schools. All these guys, you

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>guys all do it. Yes, you know it's part of it. Yes,

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>school product. Well, last night with Roe quant and we

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.959
<v Speaker 1>introduced him to Marcus Robinson. Marcus Robinson had to make

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a point, where is he from South Carolina? To get

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on the chin? To get on the chin. Ro Quan

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 1>likes that talk though he was getting undertime skin about

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame. Well, that lost by Georgia to South Carolina

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>killed Notre Dame's chances of getting a possible of possible

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>national championship. Oh yeah, yeah, wouldn't getting in this chanship

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>we ran the table. If we ran the table from

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>barely losing to George at home. Nah, I don't, I don't.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in you guys, who do you believe

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in right now? In the college game Georgia? Still yeah, Georgia.

0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, that's for sure. I can't believe the number

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of players that come out of the SEC. And you know,

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>guys like yourself that you know, you're not a headline guy,

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you know in terms of uh the attention that some

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>of them were jevers getting the SEC or elsewhere in

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>the country. But there's places for you in the NFL.

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, you know, just you know, opportunity whenever it

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>presents itself, you gotta be ready to season. Did Terrell

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Davis ever talked to your get you guys back in

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the day because he was a Georgia kid who wasn't

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of time in the college game,

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>became a Hall of Famer? I think yeah, Terrell Davis

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>stopped by uh one time. If I'm not mistaken, Ben

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Watson did it as well, because I think he was

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 1>a tight end it uh Georgia. Um it was Aj.

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I taught aj Green before he came and taught in

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a receivering room. I was pretty How about his situation, man,

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>almost a full year now, still not ready to play? Yeah,

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that's tough. Yeah, don't want Do you want to stay

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:43.239
<v Speaker 1>away from the injury? Bug? Man? Knock on wood? How

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>are you practicing patience right now? Because you know we

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.199
<v Speaker 1>talked about your first decision the senior got hurt. Man,

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you went in and you fulfilled the role. Now it's

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of like you're patiently waiting for that opportunity to

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>present itself here. So how do you go back and

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>have good work ethic and practice, but make sure that

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you're prepared for because you know football players, they don't

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>care to slip in their blockers saying this is a

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>notification where you're gonna play. It's like someone tweaked something

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in your ends on the spot. How are you paid

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 1>going through patience right now? Oh? Well? First, when I practice,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I practice, you know, not to be selfish.

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I practice for the team, you know, for

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>us to be better. But you know I practice to

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>make myself better. And I feel like, if you know,

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>if I'm continue to make myself better, you're only get better,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You're getting worse. It's no in between, it's no like

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>just you're just cruising. So every time I'm out there,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm watching Alerup, I'm watching Taylor Gabriel and

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>you know those guys who had success in the NFL.

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And I take especially a rod, I take a bout

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the same size. I take everything he'd do and I

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>incorporate it in my game. And every time I'm out

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in practice, I try literally the stuff that he did

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>last game that got I'm open. Where there's releases is

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>at the top his roup. I may try it and

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>add it in my game and just put my own

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>twist on it. Who's the tallest between you a Rod

0:28:55.120 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 1>and Cordelle? We probably pretty tight, Yeah, probably the same height.

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with Jews, Yeah yeah, and then maybe

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>quarter and then maybe Alan. Yeah it might be that way. Actually,

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>who knows. It's a group of big guys, right, you

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>put him on the line of scrimmage, You're not gonna

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>have matchup coverage against them, all right, We gotta take

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a break. One more segment here with Javon Wims, our

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>guest here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to Score.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to everybody here on Chicago Sports Radio

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy The Score. You talked about Alan Robinson before

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the break, and he continues to impress me and everybody

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 1>else again with his seriousness and his attention to detail.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Mike Furrey says, if you can get

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a target catch rate anywhere between seventy seventy eight percent,

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you know you're in the elite category. And the first

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>time in his career, at least at this point through

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>seven games, he's in. He's in the mid seventies. He's

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>always been in the sixties and the fifties for a

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>variety of reasons. Got a lot of targets back in

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville and so forth. But when that happens, that that

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>makes you in a special category. Absolutely to get there though,

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>it involves not only the right offense, but the concentration,

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>winning your routes, winning the top of your routes. Out

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of all that, what is fury unlocked in you that

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you can see yourself doing that? One day? Um, it

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>just showed me that. You know, I've definitely learned a

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>lot from him, and I definitely you know, he played

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>receiver and he had success. And one thing about me,

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I've never truly had a receiver coach. Even when you

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>know I never had a receiver what are you talking? Well,

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know I had a receiver coach at Georgia, but

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he was not never had a guy who played the position.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I had success at it. You know, my receiver coach

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>at the time, he's a great officer of mine. He

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>was an officer of coordinator. But you know, for is

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>the first like receiver coach that I've actually had that,

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, know all the details and know everything is

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>about being a receiver. So even going back to high school,

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much was my own coach. Junior college, Yeah,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>but my coach specialized in defense. It was my receiver coach. Interesting,

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that was his thing. Wow, So do you feel kind

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>of jipped a little bit from a coaching point of view?

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I won't say. I won't say that because I've definitely learned,

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, everywhere I went. I'm not they were great coaches.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just I've learned, you know, something that they knew.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So when I was at junior college with my coach,

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I learned how DBS think because he was you know

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that his thing was DBS. When I was at Georgia,

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I learned how to recognize a whole offense from the

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>quarterback point of view. And according to this point of view,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think, you know, picking up the offense

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>is kind of easier to me now, you know, learning

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>from him. So everywhere I went, I've learned something so interesting.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just one big puzzle. You've put together list like

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just putting together meeting a fabric of that is interesting. Absolutely.

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So with Fury, I mean he's obviously he was outstanding receiver.

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, a guy had you know, one hundreds some

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>catches in one season and he's fiery and looks like

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>he could still play. I don't tell him that. Yeah,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>but the tech he's he is stick, he's all yoked up.

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>But the little the anybody I can't say anybody because

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be ridiculous. But you know, guys can play

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>pitch and catch, but can you get open and actually

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>doing You gotta be able to get off finding your

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>route absolutely, so what does that take when people when

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>people hear the term gotta refine you gotta refine his

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>route running? What does that mean? That's just you know,

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>more so like just discipline and even when you win

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>at the line of scrimmage, to not get over excited

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and abandoning, you know, abandon everything that you've been training.

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you win still stay levelheaded and just

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 1>complete the route. You know, it just it just take

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like Hiss routine and his discipline. It's can So you know,

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you talk about climbing the ladder when you come to

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and a lot of your reps early in

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>training camp come with Chase Daniel. Can a guy like

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>him with his experience, even though he's not a receiver,

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>help you talk about routes a little bit more just

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>because he has experience in the system and years of

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>experience of seeing other receivers. I'm sure he can. You know.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Also does he help you also? And camp he definitely did,

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>just you know, talking with him and trying to understand

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>what he saw from a quarterback point of view, because

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's always you know, you know what I

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>tell him what I saw, or he had tell me

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>what he saw, but most poorly, you know, I want

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to know what the quarterback saw because whatever he saw,

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>he's throwing the ball. So I want to see the

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>same thing he see so I can make sure I

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>get the ball. Kind of good discussions do you have

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>with Mitch Trubisky? What are the relationship questions in terms

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of football that you guys talk about throughout the course

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 1>of a practice or after practice or in the meeting room,

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>just pretty much trying to get on the same page

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>whether there is you know, you know, I saw you

0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>know your route in this way. You know if you

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>did it this way, you know able to help me

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>out as a quarterback, and you know, I explain to

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 1>him or maybe I would explain to him why I

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>did a route a certain way, you know, to kind

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of help make sure I got open and stayed on

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>his time and stayed on his path. What about talking

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to defensive backs? Can you have a conversation with those

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>guys at this point and they tell your details about

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.839
<v Speaker 1>your gate or something if you're you know, the way

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to run aroute or how to work something

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>more efficiently against the defensive back. Oh absolutely, Prince, you know,

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>And I hated going against him account because he's like

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>he he knows everything, him and Kyle. But you know

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.399
<v Speaker 1>I would tell him and I would ask him all

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the time, like you don't even know to play, so

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>how why would you take off, you know, running or

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and he would tell me like, oh, well, when you

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>for example, when you raise up while you in the

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>middle of your route, I know, you're probably about to stop,

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, or yeah, yeah, it's just certain things, this

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>small little details like that, you know, they will give

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>great feedback. So I'm like, okay, I needed that, So

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>how do you take it from practice the Sunday? Those

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>little nuances. So they because in the heat of the

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>moment sometimes it's the only natural thing. All those things

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you work, I may go out the window because you

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>want to make a big play. Well, it's just like

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you said, just gotta like you gotta be level headed,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you gotta understand and you know, go go back to

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>your training. And that's why I'm saying, like just refining

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, routes. You gotta stay disciplined. You know, even

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>if you may win in the line of scrimmage, you

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta stay disciplined in details. If I got a regular

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>go route and I went at the line of scrimmage,

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>don't fade away trying to stack them, because me fading

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>away the cornerback maybe a four or two guy and

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>there's no way you know, four or four, four five

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>guy go probably out run a four or two guy.

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>So if I stack him, I have our opportunity to

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>outrun him because he can't run through my body. But

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>if I fade away, then he has an angle to

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>catch up to me. So just small details like that.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Let me just say, because people who don't know the

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>game enough to understand what stacking is, yeah, explain a

0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>little more stacking terms. So if me and you are

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>are racing, If me and you're racing and there's no

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>rules to the race, I want to take my body

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and put place my body in front of your body

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>so that you cannot run past me. The only way

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>for you to be past me is for you to

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>literally run your body through me. Very good when yeah,

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you know he wants to be in this business one

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I always talk. Yeah, it's practice. You like you like

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the headset? I love it? I love it. Are you

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a football fan? Do you watch football when it's on?

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a football fan. I'm more of a basketball fan. Yeah. Yeah,

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 1>so you gotta be happy that the NBA opening season.

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>But if you're watching football, do you gravitate towards the

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers dbs only or do you watch the game now?

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>That's funny, So whenever I watch football now, it's like

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>I see it different. So whenever something happens or like

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a play happen. You know, I'm like, Okay, that's a

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>m a missus signmon, that's a bust at coverage or

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:53.879
<v Speaker 1>can't have that Mays. Y'all know you can't have it Mays.

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>But or you may. Um, I just see the game

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 1>from more of a not of fans point of you.

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Now I see it from like more of an excess

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and those point you're watching as a business game, Yeah,

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it is like, oh, like he's just wanting

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>that line of screamer, she should get the ball, or

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>like I'm looking at defenses just naturally because now it's

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>just something in the NFL. I can't do nothing but

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>paint it. And okay, they're playing a lot of this

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>on this down. It's just certain things I'm now gravitating

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to it that I wouldn't have known three years ago.

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>So a team that you don't see very often in

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>your football life, and you won't see the Sandy or

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the LA Chargers very often. Is it more difficult because

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't see an opponent very much? Or is it

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>easier when you see Green Bay Detroit, Minnesota a couple

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of times a year. Oh? I honestly it's harder to

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I think I believe it's hard to be any team

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 1>more than once play him like two times or three

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>times the season. It's hard to be a team twice,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>no matter how good or you know, a bad. It recommends,

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, show it's just hard to be the team twice.

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's definitely whenever you got to play a team once,

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.439
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely. I think it's more of a I would

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>say easier, but it's you have a higher chance of

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, winning time. The Chargers are real quick. What

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you seeing defensively a great defensive team. They got some

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got some guys on defense. And you know,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, we stick to you know, the

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>things that we do good, we should be fine. You

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.760
<v Speaker 1>guys feel confident of course, noon start on a Sunday

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>no less. I mean you talk about the up and

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>down roller coaster schedule that you have had, the night

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>games to London and stuff. I mean in a good

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned noon startlight. I love the Neon game to

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 1>sign is out? I love it all right, Bailey Wick,

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>we got a definition really ready the sphere in which

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>one has superior knowledge or authority, a special domain, or

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it could be the office of juredition, of a bailiff,

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's not the case. Hey, we gotta let you go.

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh you enjoy and I hope you'll come back some time. Oh,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 1>absolutely anytime. Appreciate your time, Javin Williams. Good luck on

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Sunday and the rest of the season as the Bears

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>meet the Chargers. Time and I'll be back for one

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>more thought on the game coming up on Sunday after

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>this break on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score back,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score, Jeff,

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and time with you Javon Wims. They enjoy talking to

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you know why, because he's another one of these self

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>made players. And the part I didn't realize was, you know,

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the type of coaching these guys are getting along the way,

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it's not as precise as it maybe should

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>be or could be, or because of staffing limitations, or

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>whether you get to the NFL because you had to

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>go through junior college first and wait your turn to

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>get to a big time school, and then you get

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to the big time school and they're not throwing the

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 1>ball or running the ball. Wow, first time you're getting

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>coached is the NFL level as a seventh round pick.

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 1>So what that tells me his ceiling is very high. Oh,

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it, Javon Wims is the brightness of

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>his future is ahead of him. And you know the

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>thing about it is last year when we are watching him,

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't having the practices that he needed to have

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>in the place he was drafted with his skill set.

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>This training camp was completely different for him that he

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 1>was making the big catches that he was expected to

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>make in that type of working atmosphere. When he's got

0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>his opportunities in the games, he's been able to answer

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the bell. But you know, you're kind of sitting on

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that competitive bench. It's the same bench that I sat

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:14.439
<v Speaker 1>on waiting for my opportunity to present itself. And there's

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just not a lot of notification in the NFL. So

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in Javon's case, from this point on, when that opportunity

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>other than Game seventeen and eighteen at the end of

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a regular season, somewhere in the midst of a regular season,

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that opportunity has to go out and play forty five snaps,

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>that's when we got to see Javon Wims. All right,

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>did you listen to news conferences this week and what

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>was your impression of everything, and the fact that they

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>did have a player's only meeting. We won't know what

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 1>was discussed, but it seemed to be a cathartic moment

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>for the guys. First of all, I hate players only meetings.

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not for that. I don't think you really accomplish anything.

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not like you're going to make someone. Yeah, you're

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to make someone bigger, faster, stronger, more dedicated.

0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>It may be able to air out some grievances, but

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any grievances in the locker room.

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just a way to make sure that

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>everybody stayed and staying in a focused, positive direction. And

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.439
<v Speaker 1>because the team meetings that I've always been a part

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of is when we are kind of in a you know,

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 1>just trying to save the season earlier, in a disaster mode,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and so I just think it's about understanding what you

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>need to do in order to get better. And there's

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that you know, statistically, you know,

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>you could check the box of what things you need

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to do in order to get better. It's pretty simple. Yeah,

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying. You can talk about the

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>topic at the podium, but the topic was pretty central.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>What's your impression of the Chargers. I love Philip Rivers.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the most awkward looking athlete with the best results

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. His dedication to his teammates. He makes

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<v Speaker 1>receivers better. He's building a young tight end. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a running back that held out, so he developed the

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<v Speaker 1>running back that was next in line, and he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>performing better than Melvin Gordon who held out. They have

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<v Speaker 1>some defensive injuries that are obviously holding them back, but

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<v Speaker 1>they got a coach that has a lot of energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the most important player on their team is the

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<v Speaker 1>best player on their team in Philip Rivers. Russell inspected back.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a pulmonary embolism that caused blood clots. Very

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous situation, but you know, he's an outstanding tackle and

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<v Speaker 1>very Their tackles are nameless right now. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're working through a lot of injuries. Three guys already

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<v Speaker 1>on ir for the rest of the season. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of complicated them a little bit. They're not They're scoring

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<v Speaker 1>twenty points a game, but that's the scary part. They

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<v Speaker 1>do throw the ball well enough to move the chains. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing about it. I think it puts a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of urgency in the head of Philip Rivers. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna sit there and say, Okay, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>four four seconds up protection. He's going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the defense and say, where's my biggest vulnerable vulnerability lie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna get the ball out of my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes makes desperation a better a bigger weapon. And I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to say it because going back to the eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five season and playing that Miami Dolphins game when Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Marino was kind of clued in and what he could

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<v Speaker 1>do to that defense and how quickly he needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get it done to stay safe. They did it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's so I had the same concerns for the defensively

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<v Speaker 1>Black Joey Bosa and Brandon Mebane. That's a good place

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<v Speaker 1>to start, right, Cut them often early and often make

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<v Speaker 1>them think about something other than using their hands to

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<v Speaker 1>disengage from a tackle. Sounds like an offensive lineman that

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<v Speaker 1>you are all right, We'll talk to you. Have the

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Jonia, This is Chicago Sports Radio six seventy The Score,