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Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody? It's your girl, Trerika Foster

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Speaker 1: Brasby and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Your girl, Cheryl Swoops.

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Speaker 3: And welcome to another brand new episode of Levels to

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Speaker 3: this podcast where we basically talk about the shit that

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Speaker 3: women go through. And Honey, there is no better week

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Speaker 3: to personify the shit that women go through then the

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Speaker 3: week that we just had with the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 3: presidential election. I know y'all ain't think we was getting

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Speaker 3: ready to come on this podcast and I talk about

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Speaker 3: the bullshit that we just seen last week.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know they weren't expecting you and I to

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Speaker 2: not talk about it, but I gotta be real honest

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Speaker 2: with you and say, I hope I can get through

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Speaker 2: this conversation without losing my shit like I've already lost.

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Speaker 2: It can tell you how much I've cried, probably like

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Speaker 2: everyone else, I don't know. I'm I'm at a lost.

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Speaker 1: He I just.

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Speaker 2: Listen. First of all, as a woman, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we will ever have the respect that we deserve

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Speaker 2: from from just others, right from men, from black men,

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Speaker 2: from white men, from Hispanic, from just every race. But

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Speaker 2: then on top of being a woman, on top of

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Speaker 2: being a black woman, I just I'm at a loss.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what else to do, and I do want to say this,

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Speaker 2: you know, because I feel like Kamala took a lot

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Speaker 2: of beatens just from people, you know, and what was

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Speaker 2: she the perfect candidate? Here's my answer to that. Has

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Speaker 2: anyone ever been the perfect candidate?

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Speaker 1: A perfect candidate doesn't say there.

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Speaker 2: Is no such thing as a perfect candidate.

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Speaker 1: They don't exist.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. This is my opinion,

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Speaker 2: and you know what, I'm entitled to my fucking opinion

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Speaker 2: because it's our podcast and it's my opinion. We not

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Speaker 2: you and I, but we were never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 2: ever ever ever ever, And I could keep going, going

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Speaker 2: to allow not only a woman to be in charge

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Speaker 2: of the country, but a black woman to be in

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Speaker 2: charge of this country. That was never gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's crazy what I said, because first

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Speaker 3: of all, I was so stressed the entire day like

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Speaker 3: egg shells, just so stressed. And then as the results

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Speaker 3: kept coming, I just kept seeing red upon red upon

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Speaker 3: red upon red upon red upon red upon red, and

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Speaker 3: then there was a hen of blue and I just

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Speaker 3: kept looking at this map, like you know what, I.

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Speaker 1: Blame you, t Rika.

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Speaker 3: I blame you for being naive enough to think that

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Speaker 3: this was gonna go any differently. Like that's the whole

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Speaker 3: thing that I felt the entire time. It was just

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Speaker 3: how silly are you? How simple are you?

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Speaker 1: Tarrika? Because you knew better, Like you knew better.

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Speaker 3: Many people don't know this. I have a bachelor's degree

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Speaker 3: in political science. I did my internship in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight with the Barack Obama presidential campaign. If it's

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Speaker 3: one thing I know outside of sports, it's fucking politics.

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Speaker 3: And you knew this, but you allowed yourself to be

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Speaker 3: and would put that aside to do what was best,

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Speaker 3: or at least what we believed was better. And I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you there's two things that's been pissing me

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Speaker 3: off ever since this whole thing has happened. Thing Number

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Speaker 3: one that's been pissing me off is people who keep

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Speaker 3: posting this shit on social media that.

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Speaker 2: Says if differences of opinion makes you want to unfriend

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Speaker 2: or delete somebody, then y'all were never friends. First of all,

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Speaker 2: let's back up. This is not a difference of opinion.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Liking Coco over coffee is a difference of opinion, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's deeper than that over Kansas City barbecue was a

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Speaker 3: difference of opinion.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: This is not a difference of opinion.

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Speaker 2: This is about more character, moral and valu values.

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Speaker 3: And I have never ever, ever ever felt like I

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Speaker 1: That's never happened. It's just it's never happened.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I I've been able to disagree with people

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Speaker 3: disagree with a bigot, I can't disagree with a misogynist.

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Speaker 3: I can't disagree with someone who clearly a racist. I

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Speaker 3: can't disagree with someone who has their own greed as

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Speaker 3: And I can't disagree with somebody who thought that that

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Speaker 3: would be better than Kamala Harris. So personally, it ain't

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Speaker 3: no way you can come and me talking about if

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Speaker 3: we got a difference of opinion, go ahead and delete me, boom,

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, and just let that go.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact. I'll just delete me for you, for you, period.

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Speaker 2: So that's where we are worried about that. It's not

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Speaker 2: about that, you know, And and I said the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I have removed people from my phone, people who who

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Speaker 2: I actually thought we were friends. But listen, I'm not

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Speaker 2: just I just know what I believe in. Until your point,

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Speaker 2: I know how I was raised, I know what my

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Speaker 2: knew that about you. But the simple fact that you

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Speaker 2: will vote for someone. There's a list of things we

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Speaker 2: could we could point at. First of all, just a

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Speaker 2: convicted felon. I just don't know where where in the world,

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Speaker 2: you know, convicted felons can't even vote, but yet this

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Speaker 2: one can become president of the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Who we know will pardon himself. My goodness.

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Speaker 2: This is a conversation that we could have every episode

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Speaker 2: and I am I am mentally listen to anyone out

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Speaker 2: there who is listening and you're feeling some type of way,

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Speaker 2: you have every right to. I've cried, I've yelled, I've screamed,

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Speaker 2: I've cursed, I've cried some more. I've questioned this country,

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Speaker 2: I've questioned America. I've questioned humanity. There's just so much

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm sad, Like my heart really and that's what

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Speaker 2: I just tweeted. My heart fucking hurts right now. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't just hurt for myself, it hurts for our country.

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Speaker 2: It hurts, Huh, it just hurts. I'm like this, this

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Speaker 2: can't be the country that we're living in. This cannot

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Speaker 4: But it is.

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Speaker 3: And that's the bottom line, But it is seventy four

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Speaker 3: million people made a decision that that is exactly what

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Speaker 3: this country stands for, and that is exactly what this

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Speaker 3: country means, and that is exactly what they chose. And

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Speaker 3: I think for me, what makes this one feels different

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Speaker 3: than twenty sixteen is, at least in twenty sixteen, the

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Speaker 1: Ye it was, you know, but in this one, it

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Speaker 1: was very clear cut and dry.

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Speaker 2: There was no there was no extra, no additive, no preservatives,

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Speaker 2: there was no nothing to this.

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Speaker 1: This was just this was just what it was.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what makes it very difficult and such

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Speaker 3: a hard pill to swallow.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, and so many people have said it,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna echo it, is that the fight doesn't

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Speaker 3: stop now. Right Like we had our moment, we had

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Speaker 3: Even Kamala Harris in losing, she still has to be

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Speaker 3: the vice president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: How many other days like days maybe she is still.

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Speaker 3: The vice president, still the vice president, So she doesn't

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Speaker 1: And so we just got to continue to do the

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Speaker 3: We got to continue to fight, continue to have a voice,

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Speaker 3: continue to let people know that we're not gonna just

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited about today's episode. Because after the sulking

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Speaker 3: Anyway, this episode, we are fortunate to be joined by

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Speaker 1: Make up the w Glam Squad.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's is everything that they do, from how they

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Speaker 3: And we are talking about Amatei Brooks and and Donnie.

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Speaker 3: And She's gonna kill me because I know I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Yuki Yuki. We love you though, Donny, don't fight me.

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Speaker 3: We love you though, don't fight me. I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: talk to them. I'm excited to hear just their journey.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely hoping to get some tips to help me

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Speaker 1: I ain't even listen y'all.

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Speaker 3: Y'all can't see me, but I ain't got no hair round,

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Speaker 3: ain't I know lashes on. I'm listening here, listen, look

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Speaker 2: We we are who we are, and I'm loving that

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Speaker 2: is that a colt. It's a colt tat because you

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Speaker 2: know what, honey, it's football season and baby, my hometown Detroit,

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Speaker 2: Lyons is doing it. But my but my heart, team

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Speaker 2: my Coats, I say that team, Honey, we out here

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Speaker 2: looking bad. Well listen, that's why the name of our

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Speaker 2: podcast is perfect levels to this because it's different. There's

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Speaker 2: But I'm excited to talk to them also, And I

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Speaker 2: you know, just hearing how they got started, hearing their journey,

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Speaker 3: Well, my friends, with no further ado, let's just get

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Speaker 3: All right, you guys, we are super excited about today's

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Speaker 4: Okay, and that is.

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Speaker 3: None other than Donnie Yuki and Amadi Brooks. What's up, y'all?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is the W Glam Squad without question, Yeah, without question. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I want to just hop right into it, t if

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Speaker 2: if you're good.

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Speaker 1: With that, absolutely first.

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Speaker 3: I think it's appropriate for us to allow Madi you

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Speaker 3: is that you're currently doing. I mean, I know what

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Speaker 4: But that's puer argument.

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Speaker 1: Let you know, tell the folks a little bit about you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I am an athlete stylist. I'm a personal stylist, not

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Speaker 7: I've worked in fashion, I've worked for celebrities, and now

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Speaker 6: I love my clients.

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Speaker 7: I think I have the best clients in the world

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Speaker 2: So before we hop into more detail on what you do,

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Speaker 2: help me remember because I'm older than you. I'm way

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Speaker 4: Yes, I remember when we first met.

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Speaker 2: Because I want you to tell this story for our

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Speaker 7: So I have to first start this off with I

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Speaker 4: I wore twenty two in college. So this was a thing.

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Speaker 4: And I walked up to her.

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Speaker 7: I was so nervous, but I introduced myself and of

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Speaker 2: Say that louder because some people don't know I'm sweet.

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Speaker 4: She was so sweet and welcoming. I was so nervous,

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Speaker 7: And I just I shot my shot and Something that

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Speaker 4: But fast forward, she sent me her address.

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Speaker 7: I painted a jacket for her nonprofit bto R and

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Speaker 7: I sent it to her house and everything, and now

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Speaker 7: here we are. How many years later? I think it

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Speaker 7: was All Star Chicago. It was All Star Chicago. We

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Speaker 4: Into Cheryl and she was like Ronnie Smell. I dropped

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Speaker 7: I don't y'all understand. I didn't even go to the game.

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Speaker 7: I say, girl, you are a legend. You gotta wear

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, right, because she had to go buy

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Speaker 4: Get band aids. Oh my god, it's a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: So it's so funny. I still got the pictures from

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Speaker 2: Sure, so so funny. Thing is like I was, I was,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I was so nervous, like I can't

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Speaker 2: I want to add something to what Matty said, and

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: And Donnie, we have a story too. We got at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my cute mom.

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Speaker 7: So the first time I worked with Cheryl, she needed

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Speaker 7: You know, this is also Cheryl's swoop. So you gotta

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Speaker 6: So you can do your job.

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Speaker 7: And I'm like, okay, you just have to trust the process,

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Speaker 6: Whatever. And I finished, and she looks in the mirror

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Speaker 7: And I think coming from this space where like the

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Speaker 4: Is this?

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Speaker 7: For life.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: Then for life.

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Speaker 2: And I love seeing where the game is, how it's evolved.

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Speaker 2: And it's because of people like Donnie and Maddie. They

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Cheryl.

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Speaker 3: I'm really glad that you brought that up to Cheryl,

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Speaker 3: Like I look at you, know you Donnie, haven't worked

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Speaker 2: Like ain't the same at all, right, And this.

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Speaker 3: But like when looking at who you're working with, like

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Speaker 3: I trust you because I'm like this with my muay

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Speaker 3: I'm an I trust you like you can look at me,

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Speaker 1: So you have free.

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Speaker 7: Maty, you go first because I want to So for me,

440
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 7: that's something that's super important to me is dressing the

441
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 7: individual based off of who they are. As a former athlete,

442
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 7: I know the importance of your mental or psyche like

443
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 7: all of those things that go into your main job.

444
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 7: And I think that's the extra level of consideration and

445
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 7: intention that you have to have as part of an

446
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 7: athlete's glam team because we're not doing this just for

447
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 7: the glam. We are literally getting you dressed to go

448
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 7: to your job and do what it is that you

449
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 7: do best.

450
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 4: So I think it's.

451
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 7: Very important that they feel like their most comfortable self

452
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 7: in that space and during that time, I don't want

453
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 7: them feeling out of their body, anything messing with their mind,

454
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 7: their process, whatever that looks.

455
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 4: Like.

456
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 7: My goes into getting to know the client and really

457
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 7: understanding what they like.

458
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: Like I start my process with a questionnaire.

459
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 7: We have calls, we have fittings, but each individual is

460
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 7: still different, you know. So like for example, Sidney's my

461
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 7: client that just trusts me wholeheartedly, and I'm like, I

462
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 7: can come with anything. There's been times we have looks

463
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 7: day of just because we wanted to switch it up

464
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 7: and it just works out.

465
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I'm sorry because I'm gonna interrupt. It's a

466
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: little different.

467
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: She is a little different, a little different.

468
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but she's a little different.

469
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 7: But Asia is very collaborative, So Asia will trust that

470
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 7: I'm gonna come with things she likes, but we also

471
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 7: like work together to come up with a look that

472
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 7: we both agree on that we both feel like it's

473
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 7: asia from head to toe. Jackie's my client that I

474
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 7: come with the things, and she trusts me to come

475
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 7: with things with Jackie's gonna let me know I want

476
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 7: to do something else, and I got to come with

477
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 7: something else.

478
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: You know.

479
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 7: My process kind of varies based on an individual, but

480
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 7: I think most importantly is getting to know who they are,

481
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 7: and that comes with time.

482
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

483
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 7: No, I wanted Manage to go first because I think

484
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 7: that like her brain, I don't even understand how it

485
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 7: works sometimes, like the way she puts stuff together, I

486
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 7: don't even know how she finds stuff.

487
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 6: The color matching is insane.

488
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 7: But yeah, and you do that on everybody, But thank you,

489
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 7: You're welcome with me. I feel like one big thing

490
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 7: is that, like I do have relationships with a lot

491
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 7: of my clients, I've had relationships with a lot of

492
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 7: my clients before becoming their makeup artists, and that's really

493
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 7: important to me that they know me on a friend

494
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 7: level first, so that they know that I'm coming in

495
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 7: as their friends and so knowing that I'm going to

496
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 7: be there, there's already that trust level that I'm going

497
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 7: to protect their image. I'm going to protect the way

498
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 7: that they're going to look on camera, whether it's like

499
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 7: even like just a little flyway hair or something just

500
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 7: like being a friend, when you're friends with someone, you're

501
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 7: taking a picture on them, when you're out dinner, out

502
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 7: on brunch and you're like, oh, let me fix this.

503
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 7: They know that I'm going to bring that energy on set,

504
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 7: and I'm going to bring that energy whenever I'm working

505
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 7: with them. And then on top of that, they trust

506
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 7: what I can do. They know what I can do,

507
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 7: They've seen the proof, and they know that we can

508
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 7: have that communication. We can say like I want to

509
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 7: try glitter, I want to try this, or don't put

510
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 7: blush on me. I just worked at Collins. She was like,

511
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 7: don't put blush on me, and I was like, I

512
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 7: know who you are, so.

513
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: Relaxed.

514
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 7: But yes, they know that they can talk to me

515
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 7: like that. Whereas a lot of times you're putting these

516
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 7: situations with certain brands and certain opportunities, they'll have a

517
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 7: makeup artist there. You don't know the makeup artists, and

518
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 7: you don't know what you can say. You don't want

519
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 7: to offend anybody, like this is their craft as well,

520
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 7: and so sometimes they don't feel, you know, like that

521
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 7: they can say they don't like something or that they're

522
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 7: uncomfortable with something, and so being in those rooms, in

523
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 7: those spaces, it just alleviates that pressure of worrying about

524
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 7: what they're going to look like and worrying about not

525
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 7: being able to communicate how they feel, and like, for me,

526
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 7: like that's so important because they have to go and

527
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 7: do interviews and do commercials and remember a lot of

528
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 7: lines and do all this stuff that is outside of basketball,

529
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 7: Like this is something that they're doing at the top level.

530
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

531
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: Can I just to follow up really quick though, because

532
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 3: you said something that you said something that resonated with

533
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: me specifically where you said she said, I don't like

534
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: blesh on me. I'm a glow girl, Like I like

535
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: to glow. Put the highlight on me, Give me something

536
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: to make me glow. I need to glow under these lights. Okay, yes,

537
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: but have you ever come across a client in which

538
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: they are adamant about something that they just either love

539
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: love love and you're like, this is not working for

540
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: you or oppositely where it's like, please don't do this,

541
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: and you're like, I know you don't like this, but

542
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: trust me, if you just do this one thing, it

543
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: will just look so different and like they've allowed you. Basically,

544
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: have you changed the minds of clients because you can

545
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: maybe see something that maybe they don't see.

546
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I'll go ahead and let you guys know

547
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 7: now that I did put bloods on Khalia, So.

548
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: I do change their minds.

549
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think that people do take what I do

550
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 7: seriously and they respect it. So when I do say

551
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 7: like we have to do this, especially with the young ones,

552
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 7: like the ones that aren't in the wyet, that are

553
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 7: still in college in high school, and they're like, I

554
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 7: don't want no makeup, and I'm like, listen, it's me

555
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 7: and you in here. Okay, I'm not about to have

556
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 7: you looking crazy, but you're also not about to have

557
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 7: me looking crazy. You are putting something in your breast

558
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 7: right if you have those situations, I think that across

559
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 7: the board. I'm very much like if I have a

560
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 7: client that really wants something that I am not offering,

561
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 7: like they want, I don't know, like their whole face

562
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 7: covered in rhymestones every time we work together, then that

563
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 7: client isn't the client for me, and I'm very you know,

564
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 7: like that doesn't end the relationship or anything like that.

565
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 6: I'm still going to support their careers.

566
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 7: I mean, like I stopped working with celebrities, you know,

567
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 7: I still support their careers. I still say Mary Christmas

568
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 7: and things like that. But the type of makeup artistry

569
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 7: that has kind of taken over social media and taken

570
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 7: over a lot of artists and celebrities, I feel like

571
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 7: isn't really the makeup artistry that I want to do.

572
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 7: So that doesn't mean anything about the person if that's

573
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 7: what they like, but also like my name and my

574
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 7: brand is attached to it as well, and I want

575
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 7: to make sure that people like Collia and people like

576
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 7: DJMA and people like Lexi Brown see my makeup like

577
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 7: skills and see what I'm doing and feel like, oh,

578
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 7: I want her to be my makeup artists.

579
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: That's the makeup artistry that I do.

580
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: Well.

581
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: I just asked Donnie about clients who may be very

582
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: selective on things, and she's been able to change their mind.

583
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: So I would love to hear your response to that too.

584
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: If there's maybe like someone who's like, listen, I want

585
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: to put on this black with these pearls, blah blah

586
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 3: blah blah. And you might be like, since that's not

587
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: really what we're going for, or that ain't you or

588
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: have you been able to maybe finesse somebody into a

589
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: style or look that maybe they didn't know was something

590
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: that they liked or that was on them.

591
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: Yes, Aryah's raising her.

592
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: Hand, I'm raising both of my hands.

593
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 7: There is a and I don't even think I think

594
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 7: about it too much, but there is a strategy I

595
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 7: believe to allowing people to gently guide them into the

596
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 7: direction that you know, we want to go in, and

597
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: I feel like would be best. It is very gentle.

598
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 7: I feel like I'm very gentle with it, but I

599
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 7: do like to push it just a little bit. I'm

600
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 7: not I don't think I'm a pusher, but I think

601
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 7: I have like a little strategy where I bring what

602
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 7: I know the client is comfortable with, like their go to,

603
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 7: like their lane.

604
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: Then I'll bring something that I.

605
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 7: Feel like would be like a notch up, like something

606
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 7: that we haven't seen them in or something more elevated.

607
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 7: And then I also bring like some options that are

608
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 7: kind of like a merger of the two, so that

609
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 7: when it is time to try something new, they still

610
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 7: feel good about what's happened so far. They're feeling confident

611
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 7: in what I've brought, They're feeling good about themselves. So

612
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 7: then it also allows you to have a little space

613
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 7: and lead way to be like, hey, let's just try this.

614
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: Let's just try it.

615
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I love when it works out that way,

616
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 7: and it is not always successful, but I feel like

617
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 7: it starts with a level of trust with the relationship

618
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 7: with you and the client, and then from there, you know,

619
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 7: I think that happens more as the relationship grows stronger.

620
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: They are more open to trying.

621
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 7: Things or hearing my feedback and knowing like, okay, I'm

622
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 7: picking it up. And also also like a teaching lesson,

623
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 7: I'm not just here to throw the clothes on you

624
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 7: and I teach you anything either. I want you to

625
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 7: feel stylish even when I'm not around, by the pieces

626
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 7: that I'm bringing into your wardrobe, by the little bibits

627
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 7: that you're learning as I style you, so that when

628
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 7: I'm not there with you or i'm not accessible, you know, okay,

629
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 7: these things work well together. You're able to start incorporating

630
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 7: it's here every day.

631
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I want to add something to what Donnie said, and

632
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: MATI too. For me, it has to be trust, right

633
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: to you ask Donnie the question about has she ever

634
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: been able to convince someone to try something that they

635
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: don't normally wear or say, look this that ain't the

636
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: look for you?

637
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 6: Right?

638
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: And so my journey has been this, especially recently and

639
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: being retired, and I have this kind ofversation with Maty

640
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: and Donnie before, where like I just don't feel a

641
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: little better now, but I didn't feel beautiful in like

642
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: my own skin or my body. So example, all Star

643
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: weekend in Phoenix, Like, I'm very conscious of my body

644
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: like not looking the way I want it to look.

645
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: And I'm hoping there are some people out there who

646
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: are listening that can relate to what I'm about to say.

647
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: And so I said to Matty, like, this is the

648
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: look I want, but I, oh, I'm gonna cry. But

649
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what to wear because I don't like

650
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: I like, I don't feel sexy in my body. I

651
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 2: just got stuff in areas that I've never had there before. Right,

652
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: And so when I told her the look I wanted,

653
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: she was like, I got you, but there was still

654
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: a part of me though that was like, yeah, we'll

655
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: see and so oh, I have to tell you, like

656
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: she dressed me the entire weekend for All Star Weekend

657
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: for my brush, I felt so beautiful and you were

658
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: like I felt. I felt like I hadn't felt in

659
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: a very long time, just because I don't like I

660
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: don't like what's underneath my clothes right now, and I

661
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: was a little skeptical she was able to get me

662
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: in an off the shoulder dress that I wore to

663
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: an event, and I couldn't stop looking at myself in

664
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: the mirror seriously because I was like, oh my god,

665
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: like she did it, and even with my makeup, like

666
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: I love Donnie doing my makeup because I trust her,

667
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: Like she knows when I say this is the look

668
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: I want. She knows what I want. And I don't

669
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: really like color. She knows I don't like color on

670
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: my lips. So for the Jennifer Hudson Show, she was like,

671
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: I will give you a little color, and I immediately

672
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: got theive like, no, you're not, I don't do color.

673
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: So she did it. I looked in the mirror and

674
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, like this is beautiful and

675
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I'm crying, but.

676
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: You do not apologize.

677
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: But listen, Having played for so many years, right, like,

678
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: my body was always the way I wanted it to be.

679
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: I had the six pack, I had the muscles, I

680
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: didn't have any fat anywhere, and so I knew I

681
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: could wear whatever I wanted to wear and I was

682
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: going to look good in it. And now being fifty

683
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: three years old, I don't work out like I did

684
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: when I played, So there are certain things that I'm

685
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: just like, I'm not comfortable wearing. And so to have

686
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: someone that understands that that I'm comfortable with and I'm

687
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: comfortable being around and knowing that she's going to give

688
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: me the look that I'm asking for and I'm going

689
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: to be very confident in it, and I'm going to

690
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: look really good in it, Like that makes me feel

691
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: really good. The last thing I want to say is

692
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people probably like yeah, but

693
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: I can't afford a stylist. I can't afford to get

694
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: my makeup done. I can't afford to hire someone to

695
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: put me in something I can't afford. The clothes are

696
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: gonna get Let me just say this to anybody that's listening.

697
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: Like working with Maty, she sent me this whole sheet.

698
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, you know me why I got to

699
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: heal this out? But I understand why I have to

700
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: fill it out. And then she's like, well, what's your budget?

701
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: So she is going to work within whatever your budget is,

702
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: and I don't care if it's one hundred dollars or

703
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars, You're going to look like a million bucks.

704
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: And that's what I really loved about working with her,

705
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: because I was like, mighty, here's my budget. This is

706
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: all I got. Let's work with it. And Sis, when

707
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: I tell you listen, I want everyone who is listening

708
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: to understand, just like they said, everybody's style is different,

709
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: everybody's look is different. And once you get to know

710
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: who they are and you're comfortable with them and they

711
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 2: get to know you, just sit in a chair, get

712
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: your face beat to pieces. Let Madi just style you.

713
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 2: You gonna walk out of there looking like a million bucks,

714
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: feeling like a million bucks, and being very confident when

715
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: you walk in the room that people are gonna pay attention.

716
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: And that's what I always look for. So thank you

717
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: to both of you. Thank you, Cheryl, thank you, I

718
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: thank you. Yet I love the fact that people feel

719
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: really good about themselves in a way that they don't

720
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: typically feel whenever they have someone that comes in to

721
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: give them the style that they want, the look that

722
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: they want, the face that they want. I know, I

723
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: always like, never feel like a celebrity or like a

724
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: personality until I get out the makeup chair. And in fact,

725
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: it is so bad now that like now I don't

726
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: even want to do my own face no more. I'll

727
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: be like if I got to put my own makeup on,

728
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to go like I can't do it.

729
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: It just don't feel the sign I got to pick

730
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: my I don't want to go like I just can't.

731
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

732
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: I won't do it.

733
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: But there has to be a reason why each of

734
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: you wanted to be in this field to make people

735
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: feel this way. So I'd love to hear what made

736
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: you get into this field? How did you get your

737
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,479
Speaker 3: start even in working with high profile clients, But what

738
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: was it that drove you to want to be in

739
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: the fashion and style and MUA industry.

740
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 7: The first time I ever got my makeup done, I

741
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 7: tell everybody this, the first tie I ever got my

742
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 7: makeup done by someone who knew what she was doing.

743
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 7: I felt like Instagram batty and I was.

744
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 5: Like, oh, like I really genuinely felt like, Oh, I

745
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 5: am beautiful, I am sexy, I am a pen And

746
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: I wanted to make everyone feel that way in some way,

747
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 5: shape or form.

748
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 7: Like whatever I was doing, I wanted people to feel like, oh,

749
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 7: like this this facade of like Instagram battye and like,

750
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 7: if I want to do that, I can do that.

751
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 6: It also makes you more.

752
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 7: Confident and not wear makeup and you know, just being

753
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 7: yourself because you know your potential essentially. And so after

754
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 7: feeling that and just like, you know, like just feeling good.

755
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: About myself for a while.

756
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 7: I started to practice and see how I can replicate

757
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 7: that on myself, and it just really inspired me to

758
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 7: be a makeup artist.

759
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 6: And then I got into the industry. I worked at

760
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 6: MAC and then I worked.

761
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 7: In fashion for a bit, and then I moved out

762
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 7: here and worked with celebrities for a bit, and so

763
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 7: I got to see all those different facets and being

764
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 7: in the position of service, my biggest thing is that

765
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 7: I want to pour into my clients. I want them

766
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 7: to feel comfortable. I want them to feel confident. I

767
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 7: want them to feel beautiful. I want to have moments

768
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 7: like this that we just have with Cheryl where she's

769
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 7: expressing that vulnerability. I want to be able to be a.

770
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: Part of closing that gap.

771
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 7: I'm uncomfortable with this and I look, use my language,

772
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 7: fucking stunning. I wanted to be a part of that,

773
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 7: and working with athletes I've been able to be. I

774
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 7: feel a part of that because for a long time,

775
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 7: there weren't many people like via Madi in this space

776
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 7: doing this, and as you know, yeah, as.

777
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 6: The industry continues to grow and.

778
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 7: Get eyes on them, there was a time where I

779
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 7: would look at sports ads. I'd see like these sports

780
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 7: models and how they looked in their campaigns, and see

781
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 7: how the athletes looked in their campaigns, and I just

782
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 7: wanted them to realize and feel as beautiful as the

783
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 7: sports model would not be more beautiful and feel more

784
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 7: confident and be able to take up space in those ads.

785
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 7: And I just was like, how can I get in

786
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 7: those rooms so that I can make that difference, so

787
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 7: that people can see what they look like when their

788
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 7: makeup actually matches and when there's actually time that goes

789
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 7: into how they're gonna look for those interviews and for

790
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 7: those moments off the court, and so that's I feel

791
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 7: like that's kind of how I made my way. But

792
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 7: even like with Madie, like I remember, we worked on

793
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 7: a client like years ago who was a really close

794
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 7: friend of mine and we were just talking about wanting

795
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: to do this and our friend was just like, y'all

796
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 7: can do it. And literally like a year later we

797
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 7: were working with Cheryl. We were like doing things together.

798
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 7: It was really cool, and it was just being like

799
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 7: us putting faith in ourselves and believing that we do

800
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 7: truly have a gift and trusting that and walking in that.

801
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 7: She's like one of my favorite people to watch grow

802
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 7: because I wasn't there from the beginning beginning like the

803
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 7: ticket sales, so like seeing it, like you know, like

804
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 7: we're constantly congratulating each other.

805
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 6: It's just so beautiful to see.

806
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: And I always just.

807
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 7: Want her to have faith in herself because she could

808
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 7: do the impossible and she always wants to say for me.

809
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 6: So it's just like one of those things where you don't.

810
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 7: Find that everywhere, and so it's just like cool to

811
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 7: feel like where she is now.

812
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: Thank you, Donnie, it's something to sell you ours. Yeah,

813
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: you have been there from the beginning beginning, Thank you.

814
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love that thought, you know, and you

815
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: and I talked about that the other day just having

816
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: a conversation. I love seeing how Donnie uplifts Maighty Mighty

817
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: uplifts Donnie and they work together because so many times

818
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: in any feel as women, and I'll say it as

819
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: black women, like for whatever reason, we feel like we

820
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: have to compete. Yeah, we have to compete with each other.

821
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: And Matty's a stylist. Why can't y'all work together? If

822
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: Donnie knows someone who's looking for a stylist, you know,

823
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Mighty call Marighty Mightty knows someone who needs makeup calls.

824
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: I love seeing this because I don't think we do

825
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 2: this enough. I don't think we support each other enough.

826
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: I don't think we uplift each other enough. So it's

827
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: so nice to see women and sisters supporting each other

828
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: and not always competing against each other.

829
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed, agreed, one hundred percent.

830
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: I want to take a second to have you both

831
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: tell me about some of my favorite looks that I

832
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: have seen. M okay, so I know that we are

833
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: audio so I'm gonna describe some of them for you

834
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: so that you can hear what I'm talking about.

835
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: Obviously, this is.

836
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: The Queen like she does everything great, but this probably

837
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: was my favorite look I've ever seen on Asia. Now

838
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: keep in mind Asia AKA, so I know that she

839
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 3: all want to rock the pearls, but the pearl pain

840
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: with the jacket, with the high shoulders, the bleing purse,

841
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah this gay?

842
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Do you hear me?

843
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: The sixth pat out like this gay? But you should

844
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: have seen me trying to run machine or something, trying

845
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: to find these hands, SUSI, and we should have just

846
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: called Mardy like maighty pans from yeah yeah, And not

847
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 2: everybody can can wear that.

848
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: I can't.

849
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: Can't because honey, the stomach I got you bet to

850
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: put me on the old blazer. The whole blazer got

851
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: to come all the way back button up to my.

852
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 7: This is one of my all time favorites as well.

853
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 7: This is my first season working with Asia as her stylist.

854
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 7: This is my first All Star doing it on my

855
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 7: own as her stylist as well. But these pants were

856
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 7: customs of course, age six four and so we weren't

857
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 7: finding pro pants with ages en scene but I knew

858
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 7: I wanted to give her a moment with All Star

859
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 7: being in Vegas, with her being the host, I just

860
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 7: felt like, we got to give you a moment that

861
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 7: nobody else can take from you, like this is your

862
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 7: house as the college. So so I knew, And it

863
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 7: goes back to just knowing the client's personality, little things

864
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 7: you know about them. I always like to tell a

865
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 7: story if I can on these big moments. And we

866
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 7: know the importance of Pearls because of ages and Aka,

867
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 7: but also if anyone listened to, or you know, read

868
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 7: Dear Black Girls, or know anything about Asia and her

869
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 7: relationship with her grandmother, Pearls is also symbolical relationship and

870
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 7: Asia girls for when she got drafted, and she wore

871
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 7: pearls when she warmed up while she was playing in college.

872
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: So it went so much deeper than that.

873
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 7: And so when I gave her the idea, when I

874
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 7: pitched it to her, like what if we do a

875
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 7: pearls look, she was with it. We kind of just

876
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 7: built around the pants. Once I found a designer, her

877
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 7: name was Lee. She has her own brand called One

878
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 7: of the Ones by Joe Lee, and she makes custom

879
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 7: pants and custom pieces and she's a black designer I

880
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 7: believe out of Memphis. The pants were their focal point

881
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 7: and I just knew everything else had to just align,

882
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 7: and it did, and she killed it.

883
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: And she looks confident right, like she ain't worried about

884
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: nothing because she knows the look is there, the fit

885
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: is there, the walk is there. And this was one

886
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: of my.

887
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: Faves too, this one.

888
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: I do want to congratulate, Madie. You recently received the

889
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: In Style Image Maker Award.

890
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: Congratula, Thank you so much.

891
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about that. How it happened.

892
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: We saw you and said looking just bomblicus bomb delicious.

893
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thank you guys so much that moment. I'm

894
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 7: still coming down from that night. Installed. They did a

895
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 7: feature on me earlier this year, just interviewed me about

896
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 7: fashion and the w and about a month or so ago,

897
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 7: Jason Schieler from the Install team reached out saying they

898
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 7: wanted to honor me, and at first I'm like, okay,

899
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 7: I'm not fully understanding, but he was serious and he

900
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 7: wanted a part of it was the honorees were stylists,

901
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 7: makeup artists, so it was honoring those behind the scenes

902
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 7: to make these big images of these celebrities that we know,

903
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 7: and they had our clients be the presenter of the awards,

904
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 7: which was really awesome to hear everybody's stories too, from

905
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 7: these big names like Coleman Domingo and the Melizabello and

906
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 7: they were just talking about the importance of their glam team.

907
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 7: And luckily we were able to have Sid come in.

908
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 6: She flew in.

909
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 7: She was in Nashville actually doing some appearances for Athletes Unlimited,

910
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 7: and she flew in just for the awards.

911
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: Straight off the flight, pulled up at the awards.

912
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: Show up anyway, go ahead.

913
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 7: But it was just such a beautiful night and it

914
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 7: was so affirming in a space sometimes that and I

915
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 7: know Donnie can speak to this as a creative I

916
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 7: think in any field, sometimes you wonder, am I doing

917
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 7: God's work? Am I where I'm supposed to be? And

918
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 7: I feel like I had no doubt moment this year.

919
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 7: From the outside it seems like, oh, yeah, everything's great,

920
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 7: But I inside sometimes you're like, okay, am I on

921
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 7: the right path. So getting that honor felt almost like

922
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 7: God telling me like, no, you're doing what you're supposed

923
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 7: to do.

924
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 4: Just keep going and.

925
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 7: Keep him first and That's that's all I can say,

926
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 7: just keeping him first, working hard.

927
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 4: My mom got to be there, which was huge.

928
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 7: I flew her out from Atlanta and she had a

929
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 7: great time and I'm so happy she got to be there.

930
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 4: And I actually got styled for the first time. Oh

931
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 4: I've never been styled, didn't it?

932
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: I thought you put me.

933
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 7: I gotta give credit where it's due. Actually, my styling

934
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 7: assistant at All Star, Frank Leslie, she is an amazing

935
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 7: stylist and she has taught me so much this year

936
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 7: and helped me on projects, and I was wanted to

937
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 7: give her the forefront this time.

938
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't know, like finding out.

939
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 7: As for ourselves is stressful, and hiring styles isn't always

940
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 7: just about looking good.

941
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: It's also a time.

942
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 7: Saving mental savor in a way, and France Leslie was

943
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 7: able to do that for me. And I got to

944
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 7: feel how you guys feel, and I felt so because

945
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 7: you were. Oh you were beautiful, so beautiful, you look

946
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 7: so good.

947
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 4: You look good.

948
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: You deserve yeah, so deserving?

949
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 7: You know, stop, I know, I know I felt what

950
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: you said earlier, you know, like not being an athlete anymore,

951
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 7: you know, that's your identity for so long and so I'm.

952
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 4: Going through that myself, like it's just not the same.

953
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 7: And you know, when you work your job that you

954
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 7: make everybody else around you feel good and look good

955
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 7: and feel good about themselves.

956
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't consider yourself.

957
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 7: And to be able to take a step back and

958
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 7: have someone make me feel how I get to make

959
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 7: other people feel was.

960
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it was a moment. I loved.

961
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 7: I loved, love, love love my outfit and I was

962
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 7: vulnerable and expressed to her like, look, girl, I ain't.

963
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: Got my pack no more. Okay, So I don't know.

964
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 7: I haven't really bought clothes for myself in a long time, Like,

965
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 7: I don't know what this looks like.

966
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: For me, so just help me.

967
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: And well we all saw it.

968
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 4: You girl.

969
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 6: Were gorgeous, Oh guys, gorgeous.

970
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was so nice to watch you get

971
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 7: your flowers because you're very deserving.

972
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: Thank you and your your arm candy, what baddie I did?

973
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: I did do my work there. I stopped that.

974
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: You are going to put up You're about to look good.

975
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, let me say that I love Sid so much.

976
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: I mests it a few years ago. That's my girl.

977
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can.

978
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: Tell when she's serious and when she ain't.

979
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: Oh, we still have those I never can, like, I know,

980
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: we having a real conversation right now, but I feel

981
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: like said put on this bullship right.

982
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 7: It's so funny because we still we do have those moments.

983
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 7: It was like, I can't tell if you're.

984
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: Serious or like it's like, like.

985
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: What are you like, give me a wink, give me

986
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: right what we know? We for real, Well, Donnie, y'all

987
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: are the best.

988
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: And if nobody has told y'all lately that y'all are awesome,

989
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: y'all are awesome and we love y'all.

990
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: We appreciate everything that you're doing.

991
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 3: You are truly inspiring a young generation of future creatives

992
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: and stylists in any ways, because it's just like you

993
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: know how it is when they say when you see it,

994
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 3: you can be it. So trust and believe you too

995
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 3: really are instoration and schol and I just so greatly

996
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 3: appreciate you all taking the time to join us on

997
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: levels to this today.

998
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having it.

999
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, please tell the folks

1000
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: where they can find you on social media.

1001
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can find me at Donnie U D A

1002
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 7: N I I UK on Instagram and Donnie did it

1003
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 7: that is my beauty page, and then Donnie did it

1004
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 7: again on TikTok. I'd be having a lot of fun

1005
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 7: on there. Definitely check me out. You guys can find

1006
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 7: me at MADI too Smooth on most socials as m

1007
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 7: A D I I t OO smooth all the way

1008
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 7: through as m O O t H.

1009
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: And my styling page is at a Mighty B.

1010
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: Styling and that's where I post most of my looks

1011
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: for my clients. Love that, and I just want to

1012
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: reiterate what T said. Thank you both for being here,

1013
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: and if you ever question if you're where you're supposed

1014
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 2: to be, We're here to tell you, yes, you are

1015
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: because of people like you too. That keeps us all going,

1016
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: keeps us all looking good, feeling good. And I just

1017
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: want to say keep going, sist to both of you

1018
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: and got mad love for you both, love you having us.

1019
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 3: Sure, that was such a fun conversation to be honest,

1020
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 3: And I've really got to make sure that we put

1021
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 3: these pictures up on social media so people can see

1022
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 3: the pictures that we've been talking about, because I mean literally,

1023
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna keep stalking their social media

1024
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 3: and just get inspirations for how to get myself together.

1025
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: That's just that's how it's gonna work.

1026
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: I've kind of tried that, and you know what I said,

1027
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: listen there the makeup thing is just not me, Like

1028
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: I can't. I've done YouTube videos and tutorials and all that,

1029
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: and you know what I finally said, just leave it alone.

1030
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: That's why we have That's why we have the Donnies,

1031
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: because when I needed, I'm like, Donnie, come get your

1032
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: girl together.

1033
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: Please don't give it together.

1034
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: I know that, you know. And with Maty, I just say,

1035
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I love that I can call her

1036
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, mighty, listen, here's what I got going on,

1037
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 2: Here's what I need. And the fact that we've worked

1038
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: together before is she knows, you know, what I feel

1039
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: comfortable in, what I feel sexy in. She's like, I

1040
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: just I love being able to work with those two.

1041
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: And what a what a great conversation, Such a great conversation,

1042
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: Just a great group of women. And there's so many more,

1043
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, there's so many more out there who

1044
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: you know, do similar things that they do. I'm really

1045
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: hoping that we'll get an opportunity to maybe talk to

1046
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: them too and.

1047
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: Just kind of see just you know what.

1048
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, when I was in Minnesota, I ended

1049
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 3: up meeting the FISA Colliers stylists and I was.

1050
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Like, girl, you had her together all the time.

1051
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: Walk in this carpet, this orange carpet, and yeah, man,

1052
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: her name is Kim. And she was just like, girl,

1053
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: let's let's talk okay. And I was wearing a fit.

1054
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: I was wearing this pink blazer with these pink heels

1055
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 3: in these cute little jeans.

1056
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: Oh, I saw it.

1057
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: Yes, And so she was like, she was like, girl,

1058
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: you doing it with that fit?

1059
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: That's cute. So you know, yeah.

1060
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: Your hipsels all out in the Wait a minute, girl, now,

1061
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 2: don't you have no stylists telling me I put myself

1062
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: together right now? Because now.

1063
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: So anyway, just with everything that we've talked about today

1064
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: and just with everything going on, I feel that that

1065
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: your word to help us level up is just gonna

1066
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: be something necessary to get us from today to next week.

1067
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: Well, I have read this over and over again, and

1068
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go out on a limb and

1069
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: say a lot of other people women in particular, maybe

1070
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: black women in particular have read this, and I just

1071
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: feel like right now is the perfect time to pull

1072
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: out some Maya Angelo for all of us, just where

1073
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: we are, what's going on, what we're feeling. And I

1074
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: do want to say before I read it, I do

1075
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: want to say to Kamala Harris, we see you, sis,

1076
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: we feel you. Listen, we appreciate you, We appreciate you

1077
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: for just putting it all out there, laying it all

1078
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: on the line, and we got your bacsis. But yeah,

1079
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 2: this is the infamous Maya Angelo.

1080
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: Still I rise.

1081
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 2: You may write me down in history with your bitter,

1082
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: twisted lies, you may tread me in the very dirt,

1083
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: but still like dust, all rise, does my sassiness upset you?

1084
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: Why are you beset with gloom? Because I walk like

1085
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: I've got oil wells pumping in my living room, just

1086
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 2: like moons, and like suns with a certainty of tides,

1087
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: just like hopes bringing high. Still, all rise, did you

1088
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: want to see me broken bowed head and lord eyes,

1089
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: shoulders falling down like teardrops, weakened by my soulful cries?

1090
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: Does my heartiness offend you? Don't you take it?

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00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Awful?

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: Heart, because I laugh like I've got old gold mines

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: digging in my own backyard. You may shoot me with

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you

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00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: may kill me with your hatefulness. But still like air,

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00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: I'll rise. Does my sexiness upset you? Does it come

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00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: as a surprise that I dance like I've got diamonds

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00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: at the meeting of my thighs? Out of the huts

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00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 2: of history shame? I rise up from a past that's

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: rooted in pain.

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00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: I rise.

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00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, welling and swelling.

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: I bear in the tide, leaving behind nights of terror

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00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: and fear. I rise into a daybreak that's wondrously clear.

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00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: I rise, bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave. I

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: am the dream and the hope of the slave. I Rise,

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: I Rise, I Rise.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely love that poem, Shirl.

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00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: I actually know about.

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Speaker 2: Heart of my It's one of my favorite.

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00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: Favorite poems ever. And it needs nothing like you don't

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Speaker 3: got to explain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing to say after us, but I will

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Speaker 2: I will say this one thing, this this poem. You

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01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: could read it every day right just to for me,

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01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: just to remind us of who we truly are, because

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01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: we're never gonna get that acceptance from from the world.

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01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 2: But Maya Angelo was onto something. She knew exactly what

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01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: we as women, as black women, are gonna go through

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01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: and experience every day. So I hope that this poem

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01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: uplifts you, gets you through, just gets you through to

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01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: the next day. That's all we gotta do right now.

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: But remember we are all in this together. We got

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01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: this and like you said early on, we got to

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01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: keep our foot on the foot on the gas and

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01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: we gotta we got We still got work to do.

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01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: That's it, period, nothing less to be said.

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Speaker 3: Cheryl has dropped the mic and so with that, friends,

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Speaker 3: thank you for listening to level us to this. We

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Speaker 3: will be back next week with more next level conversation

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01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: just about the real shit that women go through. But listen,

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Speaker 3: this is just not our show. It's our show, so

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01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,000
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Speaker 3: in Apple Podcasts, tell us what you thought of this

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Speaker 3: week's show, which you may want to talk about next.

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Speaker 3: until then, keep your mentals ground level and we'll be

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