1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, gett boys is back and redod it all 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: in your mind. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, now deep throating. 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 3: This is for the streets, the real the railroaded, the distenfranchise, the. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Truth, escapegoating, and they ain't know where we speak the truth, 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: so they quoted because we wrote it. The North South 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: East coaches the ge be mocked for keeping your head, Bobby. 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: It ain't no. 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: Stopping and once to be drops head by then the 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: system is so corrupt they threw. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: The rock out their heads and then blame it on us. 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted on coding. We danced to put 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: no butterment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all ghetto boys in 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: the house back with another episode of information and instructions 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: In the studio see Oh of Mobo Records. Joe Pain 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: aka Mobo Joe. 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: On the rail on the rail, bab it out? What's 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 4: uping Mobo Joe in the building? 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: A legend. 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: I see, I was I was gonna say your name, 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: but this is the first time somebody ever actually finished 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: their name for me. 24 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: Yes, she took it over. Go ahead, any questions now, 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: I ain't. 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: Got no question in math. Is glad to be in 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: the building. Man, I'm almost famous. Ghetto Ball reloaded. 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: You're good. You're good with me? Man, you good? You 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: got it. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: You got a nice catalog, man, a nice record. You 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: got kind of a couple of records. Man, you got 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: a record in a couple couple of different ways. 33 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: But it all started with the music, right, Mobile Records? 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: What do you did you start nineteen? 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: I dropped it on my first one to end the 37 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: nine and one, I dropped my first project. 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: So that's ninety one. And what was what's what group? 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: Was that? 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: That was the low level organization. And then you came 41 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 4: back with Rules Juveniles, and then you came came with 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: Doghouse po Yeah and that and all of that. 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: Now you also had. 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: A couple of bounced artists that you put out, but 45 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: you primarily Mobile Records is known for that gangster shit. 46 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm the one that introduced theang to all us? Yes? 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, And how does it feel to know that you 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: actually started that? 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: But your name ain't never mentioned? 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: I ain't talking about sometimes, man, I ain't never heard 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: nobody mention your name when they start talking about it, 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: except the people that know, no, they talk about it, 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about as far as like in the 54 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: mainstream discussion. I hear cash money all the time. I 55 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: hear big boy, I hear you know, no limit. But 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: I never hear people talking about mobile. What's up with that? 57 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Man? 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: That's just New Orleans man. I understand it because I'm 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: from New Orleans. I know New Orleans people are you 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: But my fans in the. 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: Street, the people in the streets, they keep me, you know, 63 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 4: going and stuff like that. I don't feel no type 64 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: of way when I heard you know what I'm saying, 65 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: because I know, like we don't really pull each other 66 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: up on that level. You know what I'm saying. But 67 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I did. What I did is my story, 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: is my history. You know what I'm saying. I mean, 69 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: I did it. You know, Yeah, you did it, bro. 70 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 2: Desire. You came up in the Desire Yeah, well from Harved, Louisiana. 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: You're from Harvey. Yeah you moved project, Yeah, well I did. 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: I did. 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 4: Right after my father died, I had me and my 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: first son, and I started dating his mother out of 75 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: the Desire Project. So then around that time I started 76 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: selling you know, a little dollar weeds. So me and 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: my mom had a discussion. Yeah, allegedly, So me and 78 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 4: my mom had a little discussion. And then that's when 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: I wind up moving to the Desire Project. 80 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: And then at some point you had the idea to 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: start Mobile Records, Yes, Now what inspired that? What inspired that? 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: Easy Ghetto boys, Lou sky Walker, you know what I'm saying, 84 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: coming up under that umbrella. And then when I got 85 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: the money, I was like, I wanted to make an investment, 86 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And at that time, I 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: already was already coming to Houston a lot. I was 88 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: coming out here a whole lot, you know what I'm saying. 89 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: So I was like, I wanted to start a label. 90 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: My homeboy he did right now, So I asked him, well, 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 4: I told him, huh no, not kat is my childhood 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: from Gruss name was T And I was like, man, 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: I want to start a record label. So then he 94 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: was telling me as Knitty was a notorist, aid the 95 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: one who rapped with Lower Level, which was my homeboy 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 4: to girls. He told me he rapped, So I was like, 97 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: is he any good? He was like, yeah, he good, 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: But you know, he rapped, you know, like real hard 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: street stuff, you know what I'm saying. 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: So I called him. 101 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: I went back down and I listened to him, and 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: I was like, man, what we got to do? And 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: he told me he had talked to Might I might 104 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: make the beats and stuff, but he didn't have the 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 4: money to do the beats. So I had the money. 106 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: So then I just got connected with him. And then 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: from now it was on. 108 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: I thought, you so I just did the beats because 109 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: you you know some production, didn't you know? 110 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: I had bought production equipment, and I got that to 111 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 4: start doing my production. 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 113 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: I wrapped on some of it. Yes, I did. 114 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: Now, at some point, at some point, you moved your 115 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: operation to West. 116 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: Bank, Yeah, to the West Bank. You moved to the. 117 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: West Bank, and you know, things are looking good, everything 118 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: is cool or whatever. It's taken off and then you 119 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: run into a roadblock. 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: What happened. 121 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: Well, when I moved to the West Bank, I was 122 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 4: still on the West Bank. I moved to the West Bank. 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 4: I had bought me a house like in ninety I 124 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: think like ninety ninety one. I bought my first house. 125 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: But then I had got a record stone, and that's 126 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: why my real production I was selling CDs, and all 127 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: of a sudden everybody CDs and stuff like that. Well, 128 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 4: then ninety eight I called it a federal case, and that's 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: when they left the street. 130 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: From nine to eight sometime I went to federal prison. 131 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and things kind of like from that point, 132 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: you know, the label goes into obscurity. There was nobody 133 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: there to pick up the baton and run with it. 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: I guess you you hadn't obviously even forese like getting 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: jammed up or whatever. 136 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 137 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: So so, but at this point where you are nine life, 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: I know you got some things going on right now. 139 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: You you know, you're pretty much rebuilding. 140 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: Are you like putting certain mechanisms in place to make 141 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: sure that if ever anything happens to you, no matter 142 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: what it is, that somebody, even if you just don't 143 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: feel like working for a week, a month, or a year. Yeah, 144 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: is that somebody that can keep the movement going. Now, 145 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: if something happens to you. 146 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: The thing about it, it's just so hard to find them, 147 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's like I lost my 148 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: first son, my oldest son, and yeah. And then my 149 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: second son, I was trying to get him to come 150 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: in and you know, be that person. 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But you know, it's just. 152 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: Hard for these kids because they got this bridge between 153 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: us and a lot of our kids. Trying to get 154 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: them to understand and work with their parents. Like I 155 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: got one son left, my youngest son. He do music, 156 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: He like manage one of his guys. He basely do 157 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: it thing I do, but he just don't do it 158 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 4: with me, you know what I'm saying. So I'm still 159 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: in search to find somebody. I got this other little guy, 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: his name Carol. He worked with me so right now 161 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: he kind of that guy. But just keeping them focus 162 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: well on you know, the hard work that we did 163 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: and understanding, you know what I'm saying, Because the worst 164 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 4: thing about life the you know, have this legacy, you 165 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and then you die, and your 166 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: legacy die does mean you was a failure. 167 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So my worst feel is 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: to let that happen. 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: But it just find the right person to understand my 170 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: vision on what I started in the carrier to the 171 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 4: next level. 172 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: Man. 173 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you mentioned that legacy thing and 174 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: being a failure if your legacy dies. That's right, you know, 175 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: like we have the plan we can see, Like right now, 176 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: the way I look at you and from what I 177 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: know about you, is that you are in the best 178 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: position to change your parents or your family's generational wealth. 179 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: You in the best position. 180 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: You have the name recognition, you know, you have better 181 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: connects than anybody else, You got more resources, so you 182 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: in a I feel like too much as giving much 183 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: as required, and it would be a shame to have 184 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: had the success that you have. 185 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: And that die with you. 186 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: YEA. 187 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: Your same thing for me, I would be I would 188 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: feel like a failure exactly. 189 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: If within a generation or two or even three. 190 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: That's right, my family ends up back in fifth Ward, 191 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: not because they want to be there, but because they 192 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 1: can't afford to live anywhere else exactly exactly. 193 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: So that's admirable man, Yeah, because on that level. 194 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I run my trucking budding, but all my 195 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: business skills came for my father, you know what I'm saying. 196 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 4: When I was a kid, Key bought me with him 197 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: to do a lot of business transaction, brought me in 198 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: a bank and stuff like that. 199 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 200 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: So I really I don't know my father, you know, 201 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: the fifteen sixteen years he was there, you know what 202 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I try to get my kids to understanding, 203 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: but sometime they don't be the one. You know what 204 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying, You got to make that right, Charice, that 205 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: somebody who understand your vision. It might don't be your kids, 206 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 4: It might don't be your cousin. It might be somebody 207 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 4: who comes alone, you know what I'm saying, that understand 208 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: what you build and what you got. 209 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So, like I worked with 210 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: al Mott a lot. 211 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: He like a young ramper and he been doing a 212 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: lot of stuff with me too, so he spent a 213 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: lot of time with me, so he know how I 214 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 4: think and how I move and how I do stuff. 215 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: You just never know, you know what I'm saying. But 216 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: somebody got to pick up the ball, man, cause I got, 217 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 4: like I think I got like three hundred and twelve 218 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 4: songs undead over the years, you know what I'm saying. 219 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 4: And I got some of the best original New Orleans 220 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 4: music from the early nineties. 221 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 222 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: That's taken off right now because the other avenues with 223 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: the podcasts and stuff. 224 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 2: That you can do. 225 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, speaking of podcasts, lack ofmo 226 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: show Man, what's up with that? 227 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: Well? 228 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: The Lachamo show, all right? When you see me now, Yeah, 229 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: I'm not Mobile Joe. I'm lack ofmore. You know what 230 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's like mobile Joe was the one back then, 231 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I was doing the gangster music, 232 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 4: I was doing all that. The concept of the lackimo 233 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: came when I got ready to buy me a new car. 234 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: I said, what's going to make this cost special? 235 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: Right? And I thought about. 236 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: It like when I was coming up all the older 237 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: men in the neighborhood where I lived at where basically 238 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: I like to call a village because it was you know, 239 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: I had a father and neighborhood and everybody household back there, 240 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: so they was only really a fold luxury call was 241 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: a Calain, you see what I'm saying. 242 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: So I said, you know what, I'm gonna go with 243 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: a Calie. 244 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: I could have got the Bends, I could have got 245 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: the BMW, I could have I looked at Bentlands and 246 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: all that, but it connected me with them old folks 247 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: because one thing my spirit showed me. 248 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: They all had their last ride in that caline. 249 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: So I said, you know what, I'm gonna enjoy minds 250 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 4: while I'm still here, you know what I'm saying. So 251 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: that's where the concept of lack of mode come from, 252 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 4: because I'm in calac mode now. I'm not in the 253 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: same mode to I want to do songs that downgrade 254 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: my sisters talking about blowing my brother's up anymore. 255 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm not there no more, you know what I'm saying. 256 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: So I'm lack of more. 257 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: I'm teaching the younger people, you know, how to get 258 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: into music, building, how to get in the truck and bidding, 259 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: and also eat right and live right and treat each 260 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: other right. That's the lack of more concept. That's where 261 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: I'm at right now too. Basically trying to go to heaven. Well, 262 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: I don't believe in it, you know, like that's ale 263 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: no the topic. But you know, I mean, if we 264 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: want to go there, I'm in heaven right now. If 265 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: you don't get to heaven on earth, you're never gonna 266 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 4: get there. It's not a place you go. Heaven is 267 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: the way it ought to be. You got to live 268 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: it now you can't. 269 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 2: Go to it. You know what I'm saying. 270 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: But when I leave, when I leave, I want to 271 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: be like Tita Marie say it on day y'all voo. 272 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: I thank God I got to come back no more. 273 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: I got it right. You know what I'm saying. I 274 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: got it right. 275 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: If you go back and lit to all these old songs, 276 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: like you listen to Tetum of Red, you listen to 277 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: stand up for you right by ball Marler, rest a 278 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: peace of these people. You listen to some of the 279 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: words and stuff they're saying, then you'll understand all this stuff. 280 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So that's why I'm at 281 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 4: with it. So like I'm in heaven right now. 282 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: Brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 283 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: In life it's it's about ten percent of what happens 284 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: to you. In ninety percent is how you react. How 285 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: did you react when your son died in two thousand 286 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: and five? 287 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: It was it was hard, It was hard, but what 288 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: it did, it was kind of it helped me because 289 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: I questioned everything that I know. That's why I understand 290 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: about heaven and hell. Like this world is rigged. Well 291 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: you notice it's rig you know what I'm saying, we 292 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: come up getting past this rig that the concept of 293 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: life was passed on to us growing up, losing my father, 294 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: losing a lot of my partners, you know what I'm saying, 295 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: not losing my son. I'm like, now I gotta figure out. 296 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: This can't be how God work. It just can't be 297 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: like that. So when I started questioning myself, I start 298 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: doing a lot of research. 299 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: I research, and. 300 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: I do a lot of meditation, you know what I'm saying. 301 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: So as I start researching, I start understanding. 302 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: A lot of this stuff was just set up. We 303 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: just basically what I realized. 304 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: We had been going through life, repeating stuff that was 305 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 4: passed on to us, that was taught to us, that 306 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: we learned in school, we learned in the hood, but 307 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: it wasn't a reality. When I start doing the research, 308 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: the stuff ain't mean sense, you know what I'm saying. 309 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: Because when I was. 310 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: Lost my son, you know, you taught to retaliate, right, 311 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: So now I'm going to kill another son, look just 312 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: like my son, you know what I'm saying, Like, rest 313 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: in peace to Nipsey Huse. I heard him say, like 314 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: one day they was on the prow to blow up 315 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: another game banger, and he said he realized he was 316 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: hunting his own self, you know what I'm saying. So 317 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: when that happened, the anger was there. 318 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he said that. So the anger was there. 319 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: But it made me dig into my self, into my 320 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: spirit to understand, Okay. 321 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: Naw, this scene right, this isn't right. Like my mom 322 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: passed about four years ago, and four she. 323 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: Passed, I had the opportunity to go to hall and 324 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: tell her. 325 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: Man, y'all got bambooze a lot of this stuff that 326 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: you taught us. 327 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: It ain't like that, you know what I'm saying. But 328 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: like she told me, son, you gotta live your own life, 329 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 330 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: So it was it was it was real. It was real. 331 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: It was real hard man, It's real hard. Got reloaded 332 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: podcast right back after Spreet. 333 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: Your son died in two thousand and five. Three months later, 334 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Katrina pop off. Yeah, it's it's uh all that and 335 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: and and Katrina. Katrina was like uh as recorded as 336 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: the at the time, it was the greatest uh cyclon 337 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: disaster on record. Thirteen hundred ninety two people died during Katrina, 338 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: most of them out of New Orleans. Did you have 339 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: time to stop grieving your son's death. 340 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: How did that? 341 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: Like? 342 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: So you have your son, it's a major catastrophe, you know, 343 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: they say the greatest pain is the loss of a child. 344 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: Your child is murder bone, your child is murdered, right, 345 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: first born murdered, and then you're grieving. You're obviously still grieving. 346 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: And then a catastrophe and another catastrophe, a national disaster 347 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: had finish and we're talking bodies are falling everywhere all 348 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: around you. How are you processing that in association with 349 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: still dealing with the death. 350 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: Of your son. It was hard. It was real hard 351 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 2: because Katrina I still knew the whole time. I never left. 352 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: I never left from beginning to the end. 353 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 4: I was there the whole time, which I was on 354 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 4: the West Bank, but I was there because my mom 355 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: she was old, right, so she was like, boy, I 356 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 4: stuff for Bessy, I'm not going nowhere. So if my 357 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 4: mom and not going, I ain't going. So by me 358 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: standing there it made it more harder because I'm seeing 359 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 4: my people. Man, I'm seeing like people. It straight survivor mold, 360 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But like I say, the 361 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: way I come up, you know what I'm saying, it 362 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: ain't too many things I can't figure out how to 363 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: get through. 364 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: But like it was so hard to I couldn't grieve. 365 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree because it was survival mode because people 366 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: studed down. You got family members missing, you know what 367 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And then my mom. It was the original 368 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: house that we was raised in, so the only phone 369 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: was working was my mom phone because she had a 370 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 4: landline phone. So everybody calling my mom because my mom 371 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 4: like a lot of knowledge and wisdom I got. 372 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: I got it from my mom. My mom is real spiritual. 373 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: She can tell you something gonna happen, and it's gonna happen, 374 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So they all calling. We 375 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: don't have no power, so we can't really see the 376 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: news or none of that. But people come in y'all 377 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: all right, you know this going on, that going on. 378 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: And then when I went to moving around, I seen it. 379 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: It was so hard. So at this time I. 380 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: Can't even really grieve, you know what I'm saying. And 381 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: then it's like in Errod, I'm this big giant. Joe 382 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: can figure out everything. That's why people look at it 383 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 4: like call iver Joe. He can figure it out. You 384 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So now I'm trying to grieve 385 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: my son. But I got all these other people. They 386 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: don't know what to do, how to survive, so they 387 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: called us. I really had no time to do it, 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: and I really didn't, you know, I had to just 389 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: learn on a job. 390 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I was just thinking that she was telling this story, 391 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: why didn't you just snatch your mama up, just kidnapp 392 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: and just say you going, I'm. 393 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: Getting you gotta know my mom, man, you gotta know 394 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: them man. Like she's stuffing. She's like she's stuffing. 395 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 4: And I told her, I said, Mom, I'm gonna call 396 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 4: the National Guards to come get you. 397 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: Oh you I ain't going no where. I ain't going 398 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: no where. But what's funny? Right after that? 399 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: What it was not without one name? Reader, reader can't 400 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 4: write out that. I said, mam, we're gone. I said, 401 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: we're going. We went up to North Louis, unto Naggiet 402 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: Louis and I got her to go that time, but Katrina, 403 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: she wouldn't going. And then we standing there. You couldn't go, 404 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: like you couldn't really you was there. 405 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Now, Perhaps she didn't realize how real it was, You 406 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: know how when she was in the midst of Katrina. 407 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: She didn't know what it was going to get. 408 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: No nobody did, and now she has a reference point. 409 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, come right, you're right. 410 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: So the reader she was like yeah, you know, like 411 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: she got out of there because like we had thought 412 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: Katrina was gonna be that bad, you know what I'm saying, 413 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: And like right after the Katrina hit, it wasn't that bad. 414 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: But when the leaves broke and all that, that's when 415 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: it because it. 416 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: Was like when I come outside, like I said, I 417 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 4: stand away when I come out, so I'm looking for 418 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: more them. When I start seeing all the people, like 419 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: hundreds of people, like I live in a rural area 420 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 4: like in the woods, man, they got people, hundreds of 421 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 4: people walking the streets, you know what I'm saying. They sweating, 422 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: they got stuff, they're just trying to you know what 423 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And they're coming through and they're like they 424 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: see me because everybody know me, like, man, more is 425 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 4: messed up, many ya YadA, like what we're gonna do. 426 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, it was like, you know what 427 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying, It was bad, man, it was bad. 428 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: But all that helps me got to the lack of more. 429 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because I'm like, there's no 430 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: way a race of people supposed to be treated like this. 431 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: It's it's it's just no way. 432 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Do you think the levee is broken? Do you think 433 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: they broken? They broke them. 434 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 2: Everybody heard the explosion. 435 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you, when we came out after the storm, 436 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: it was normal. But then when that boom that levee broke, 437 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: that's when it got flooded. Man, Yeah, that's when it 438 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: got flooded. So legendly it did something. Yeah, you know 439 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, like I said, the levee 440 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: broke in the Ninth War, that was the desire. Yet 441 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: so I know a lot of people down there, you 442 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And a lot of them people 443 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: couldn't affold to really leave. 444 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You got people up until 445 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 2: a tree. 446 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: And I'm talking about older than me at this time. 447 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: They never left up the Ninth Walk. That's how New 448 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: Orleans else. They like people downtown, you stayed all the time. 449 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 4: They don't have no reason. 450 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Look, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I thank you 451 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: own something. 452 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't put anything passing behind it nothing, man, They 453 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: just they there's some wicked, wicked people in this world. 454 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 4: But I seen, I seen, I've seen so much. I've 455 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: seen so much stuff. 456 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: Man. 457 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 4: It was taking the police was taking all the supplies. 458 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: It was there was the one breaking into places or they. 459 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: Still asked carrupt as they were back then. I know 460 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: they're still dirty. I know, I know they're gonna be dirty. 461 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna always be dirty still, but they're still as dirty. Yeah, God, 462 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: it was uncivilized. Much must be stopped. Yeah they're still. 463 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: I can't stand y'all, as I know you're listening, I 464 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: can't stand. You can't stand. 465 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, yeah, man, what happened to that black dere to. 466 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Eighty eight you used to drive? 467 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: It was a bond Noville that was a yeah, it 468 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 4: was it was. It was an eighty four Bottlevil the 469 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 4: don't ride and I had the snake skin terrier and 470 00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: all that in it. 471 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: And believe it or. 472 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: Not, I sent to the junk yard, to the strap 473 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 4: yard because why did you do that? Because my mom 474 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: worked on my nurves one day because like every so often, 475 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 4: the cold enforcement had come through, you know what I'm saying. 476 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 4: And I had my car. They on and I had 477 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: aducing a quarter on our property, which his family property, 478 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 4: so they'll come through and write up. 479 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 2: So she called me one day, said, boy, I just 480 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: went to call and I just got mad. So the 481 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: old man acrossed the street. He strapped call. 482 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 4: So I just went, hey, bro, I'm telling him when 483 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: it was signing like glass, when I signed to the 484 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 4: junk yard, I said, man, just take it. 485 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 486 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: Because I ain't so long had come off from jail. 487 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 4: I got three boys, you know what I'm saying. My 488 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 4: oldest one sixteen, I got fifteen. Then I got my 489 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: youngest son, he's like about what two three years old. 490 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: I got to focus on my kids and my mama. 491 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I ain't had time to 492 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: met with the music. You know what I'm saying. 493 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 4: Because I was a Voda all their life, you know 494 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So small things like that it didn't matter. Well, 495 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I just told him 496 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: to send to the arm junk y'all. You know what 497 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Yeah, my partner, Kenny, he had the beige 498 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 4: eight eight with the wheel on the bank. Then Ligit 499 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: had the white riga that was used on the album 500 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: cover and then the blue covers for Rock with the 501 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: the powder blue one. You know what I'm saying. That 502 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 4: was all like my homeboy calls and stuff like that. Yeah, man, 503 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 4: where is cheeky Black. 504 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Cheeky Black hill around? She out here in Houston? Really, 505 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: she out here in Houston. She live out here? She 506 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: in Houston. Yeah, mother torque cheeky Black. Yeah, man, is 507 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: she the best selling artist on the label. 508 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: No, my best. My biggest project was Rules Juvenile. Yeah, 509 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 4: Rule as Juvenile like the Cheeky was. She did a solo, 510 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: but I put haul Ricky Betan all. I'm on the 511 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 4: mobile click. I put them all on the mobile click. 512 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: But the biggest one was the Rootless, The Rootless Juvenile. 513 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. What about Little Goldie? He and Van Ruyd, she's 514 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: still doing this thing. Yeah. Yeah. He and b Bro. 515 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: He cutting hair and he got another little buildings. But 516 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 4: he be hollering at me too, like I be talking 517 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: to all of. 518 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: Them here and there. 519 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 4: Ain't no Tim. Rest in peace, Tim, yeah man and 520 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 4: Tim Man. He got Tim been dead a few years. 521 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 4: I forgot one year, yeah, Tim, dad. 522 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: Man, I had no idea cano, man, that cano, because 523 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: he's supposed to tell me because COO be my connector, 524 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Like Tim can't let me know what's going on out 525 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: in there. 526 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim, Tim died, not Tim, Yeah, Tim died. Man. 527 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm about to say, I feel like Stacey Dad, 528 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: but she's a damn coon, so I cannot. 529 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: But man, all right, but yeah, resting peace man. Tim 530 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: was a good one man. Yeah. And then on a 531 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: matter of fact, like he was something of that smoke. 532 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, when I talked to Tim, because they were saying 533 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 4: it was distant, it was that. So I had the 534 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: opportunity to talk to him because you know, I just 535 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: smoked blunts. 536 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: Bad, like real bad. You know what I'm saying. I 537 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: don't know none of that now. 538 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: And I asked him when he came by the seamen, 539 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: I said, man, from the horse's mouth, what happened? You 540 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? Where did the cancer come from? 541 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: Because I smoked? I said, it can't be the weed. 542 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: He said, no more. 543 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: He said the cigar, he said the doctor I had 544 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: told him it got so many chemicals in that cigau. 545 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: He was almost better off just putting into his head 546 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 4: and blow his brain. Because this how he was playing 547 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: Russian with the cigar that's from tim Mouth. He told 548 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: him that, Yeah, that's what caught out with him. 549 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: This cigar is a big deal these days, a thing. 550 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: And I'm seeing not just dudes smoking cigars, and it's 551 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: like it's it's it's cheek now, you know, Like that's 552 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: the thing to do. And I'm just looking at it, 553 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm. 554 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's just like Junior maggots right here. Man, 555 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 4: Like Junion, he ain't gonna smoke sigall. He smoked white boars. 556 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 4: He ain't gonna smoking. But me, I ain't smoking none 557 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: of it. I don't figure it all out. 558 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: It's all. It's all, you know what I'm saying, Like 559 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: people are trying to sell me. Oh man, you made 560 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: a song. 561 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 4: We like them blunts, and you don't smoke blunts more, no, man, 562 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: Because as you get older, you gotta get knowledge. You 563 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: gotta get knowledge, you gotta get with it, you gotta 564 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: get understanding. 565 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, oh man. 566 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: It's an earth. Okay, it's an herth. When you district cheek, 567 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: it's an herth. Right, you burrow it, put it in 568 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: water or whatever. Right, Okay, if you want a smooth weed. 569 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: That's why, like you go to places like Jamaica, they 570 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: also order have the weed and brownies and cookies. 571 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: Because it's how you're supposed to take it. 572 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: The minute you put fire to that earth is turned toxing. 573 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: It's not desired to go on your box. 574 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 575 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: So if you're gonna take it, you gotta take it 576 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: in that phone. You know what I'm saying, which I 577 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: ain't messing with none of it. You know what I'm saying. 578 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: But people don't understand that I'm not. That was thirty 579 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: seven years ago. Man, I came at ninety six something. 580 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Man. 581 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: You know I can totally relate to what you're saying 582 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: because I remember one day I wish all the mothers 583 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: a happy Mother's Day and somebody went into my comments 584 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: on Facebook and said, what about the. 585 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: Ball hit home? 586 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 587 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, And look, it was so crazy. 588 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: It's so crazy how the universe wor man. 589 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: Because I had just was telling my partner about he 590 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: wanted me to get back to the music, and I 591 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: was like, you know, I can't do song like dog 592 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: be getting nothing no more. 593 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: I can't do that stuff. 594 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: So he was telling me about bust down, about the 595 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 4: nasty beat. He said, yeah, man, I told the bus 596 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: down a couple of days ago. He said, he don't 597 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: perform the song no more. 598 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 599 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: And then I turned right around and I had seen 600 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 4: you saying that. 601 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 602 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: But I'm like, we all growing up, you know, like brother, 603 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: I said, Man, I got grandkids, I got killed. 604 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: I can't do this no more. 605 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 606 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: Well, here's what I feel about the performance of the songs. 607 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: So I took boyet Hose out of my playlist for 608 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: the performances right, and it was out for several years. 609 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: And one day we're playing somewhere in the Midwest. It's 610 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: a ghetto boys show. We're backstage parked in the van 611 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: of fifteen passenger van. Two girls come walking up and 612 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: one's like, well, WILLI D well? WILLI D So I'm 613 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: sitting right there at the door by the door. So 614 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: I slide the door open to the van and I said, yeah, 615 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: what's up. She say, I know you're gonna take out, 616 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna do ball at house. She took off her wig, Yeah, 617 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: said I know you're gonna do bollye at Hose And 618 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: I turned to Don once put it back in the playlist. Yeah, 619 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: because I realized that those songs ain't mine anymore to 620 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: the fans exactly exactly. That's not my songs. If fans 621 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: want to hear the song, that's what I'm doing. I 622 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: ain't going out there doing with just what I want 623 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: to do. It's about what it's about what my fans want. 624 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: If you ain't a fan of the song, if you 625 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: ain't a fan of Willie d hey Man, you know, 626 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you really don't matter when it comes to my business. 627 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. This is my business. 628 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: This is business right here right My business in my 629 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: personal life is two different things. 630 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying. I'm not gonna go around 631 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: just calling women. You're not gonna put no more like that. 632 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: But that's different. That's not why I matter. I'm not 633 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: making music like that for that music, for those those 634 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: fans bought that music, man, you not lie. They bought 635 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: that music. They spent that money for their music, that 636 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: that music. 637 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: I remember. 638 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: This tripped me out. I'm making songs and I'm thinking 639 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm being intentional by making songs that I 640 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: feel that can really make an impact and change people's lives. 641 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing on songs like the World is a Ghetto 642 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: and then you know Ghetto Fantasy, and you know all 643 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: these type of songs like I Tried and stuff like that. 644 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 1: And this chick wrote me a letter one day and 645 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: she said that ball head Hole saved her life. And 646 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: she said she said she was pregnant and her boyfriend 647 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: left her and she was suicidal. She said, listening to 648 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: Baal head Holes every day, it was so funny that 649 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: it got her through the day and it made her 650 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: on a lip because she would just look forward to 651 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: listening to that song and laughing every day, and it 652 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: was mine. 653 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, man, I can't try. 654 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: To predict what's gonna pop and what's gonna resonate with 655 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: people whatever. 656 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: Autists. Just make the song and then let her last 657 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: and let it do what to do exactly. 658 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: I don't have some of the same stories, you know 659 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I now'm like Buzz Donald was 660 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 4: the same way. He stop performing his song and we 661 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: did the thing that the Walls thing January seventh, and 662 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: at the first time he probably performed that song in 663 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: a very long time. And when I say the women 664 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: turned up, I was about to say the trip part 665 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: about it, I bit. I was about to say, I 666 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 4: bet you the wing it loud. When the look he 667 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: left off the stage, he had did his his show. 668 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 4: They wanted the song. He came back and it went, 669 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 4: it went out, you. 670 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 671 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 4: And I was like, I said, I don't see no 672 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: problem still performing them, but at our age redoing another 673 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 4: song like that, I ain't gonna do that one. 674 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not doing it. That's rap that I can't 675 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: do that. It's a rap for me. 676 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: But boy, if I wanted to though, yeah, boy, I 677 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: got about it. 678 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we ain't doing that. We are doing that. 679 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: I still got it that get it twisted. I could 680 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: go there. But yeah, you know, I think that there's 681 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: other guys out there that's on to come up. They're 682 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: gonna do that anyway, you know, let them have it. 683 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm an elder statesman. You know, 684 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: I got some other information that that can be valuable. 685 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: If it's always to put out something, you know. Uh, 686 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I see things a lot differently now, exactly right, and 687 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, man, I really don't want to be 688 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: a part of anything that's going to further divide. 689 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Black men and women. I'm sound pad. 690 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of now exactly artists 691 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: that exactly hate women. 692 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: I don't know sign artists and hate men. 693 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: No, you know what I'm saying exactly, like like we 694 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: need to come together? Could brow we we we we 695 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: have survived a lot of wars. 696 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: One war. 697 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: We cannot survive as a gender war. That's right, That's 698 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: impossible exactly. 699 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: And that's why I tell people, like, you know, people 700 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 4: be thinking because like a lot of people know me 701 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: from the legend of New Orleans gangster rap. But like 702 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: I try, I tell people that was where I was 703 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: at then I started that. But it's not the discredit 704 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 4: no other label from New Orleans, you know what I'm saying. 705 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 4: We had all whole bunch of labels, but at the time, 706 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 4: I'm the one bought that to the table, you know 707 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you know, ghetto boys bought a 708 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 4: lot of music to Houston, y'all. Was the first one 709 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 4: kind of doing it. Might had a couple other one, 710 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: but that's what you're know them far, you know what 711 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And that's what I did because at the 712 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 4: particular time, I was a fan of Ghetto Boys. 713 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: I was a fan of Easy, I was a fan 714 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: of Louke Skywalker. You know what I'm saying. That's who 715 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: I related to, you know more. 716 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: And then, like I said, I was moving around before 717 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: the music. So when I got in it, that's what 718 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 4: I wanted to, you know, rap about. That's what I 719 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 4: wanted them to do, you. 720 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 721 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: At this time, they was doing a lot of bounce 722 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: music in New Orleans. I didn't really want to do that. 723 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: I didn't want to do noboduse music. I didn't at 724 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 4: that time. But after I finished the Gangster Wrap, then 725 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 4: I had people like cheek It that had talent, people 726 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: like Ricky. I'm like, you know what, let me use 727 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: my platform the boom and look look what I did. 728 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: The whole world still twerking twenty five, twenty six. That's 729 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 4: all they that's all the ladies want to do. 730 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. And I was the first one with 731 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: Chiky to put it on wax. Yeah, I'm ready for 732 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: that damn twork and ship to go yadline. 733 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: It's cool and it's parting up right now. 734 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: It's course, you know, like it's crying his course, like 735 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: pants hanging off the ass, you know, yeah, speaking of cheeks, you. 736 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: Know, yeah, I never did that one. 737 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: Now. 738 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: I can't get with that program. I don't know what 739 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: I saw a dude. I saw a dude a couple 740 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: of days ago. Of course, youngster, not necessarily cost you, 741 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: because it's some dudes. I ahe be walking around like that, 742 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: But this dude had his pants all the way down, 743 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: like like at the at the bridge of his uh 744 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: uh at the bridge of his uh what they call 745 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: this underwear. 746 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: You know, his drawls. 747 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: So his whole ass was out, you know, and it's 748 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: and I swear to guard, like, I don't know how 749 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: a dude can walk around like that and not think 750 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: that he's not inviting his ass to somebody who won't 751 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: it now, like you know, like I don't understand that peace. 752 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: It's just but you know, beyond that, what's crazy to 753 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: me is the dude had a bet on. 754 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. That's what I 755 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: was about to say. They had a belt. Wait, that's 756 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: what I was about to say. Like they had a 757 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 2: pat What a beut on? What a bet on? Man? 758 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 4: I watch a dude man one day he had his 759 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 4: pants weighed on and he was walking like on mad 760 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: and vulletball. That's probably about three four miles and I'm 761 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 4: watching he walking. He holds his pants up the whole 762 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 4: while he walking. I goes down, I come back, I said, 763 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: I'm like, and they have a belt on, Like I 764 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: ain't never do that one now. 765 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: And there's another thing. 766 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to getting shot like a dog 767 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: in the street. But you know, if if something like 768 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: that was to happen to me, I don't want to 769 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: add insult the energy. 770 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: By having my pants hanging off my ass. 771 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: I won't be laying on the ground with my ass 772 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: whole lot. And these dudes ass crack ass out just 773 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: laying on the ground. 774 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: And then like we were summinge bro, but we was 775 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: coming up the mad thing. 776 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 4: The more folks told you, boy, be clean under clothes 777 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 4: on because you're gonna get to tell what if you 778 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: had to go to the hospital, you better have clean 779 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 4: under clothes on. 780 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 2: They take it all the time. These guys be walking 781 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: around like, I'm like, bro, I can't get with that one. 782 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: I can't. 783 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: But you know it comes down to parenting because I 784 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: told my son early on. 785 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: My son tried it, do that ship? Yeah, my son 786 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: tried it. Don't do it. We don't do it. 787 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: If I see it look like if I see I 788 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: don't even want to see your draws line. I don't 789 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: want to see the line of bad. I do want 790 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: to see none of that. Boy, ain't supposed to know 791 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: what color draws you got on? 792 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: You did that? Then the hell color for address? What 793 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 2: is coming in at? Yeah? That's my son is coming 794 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: in at. 795 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 796 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 4: I told mama son one day, try to I said, boy, 797 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: I said, oh you ever tried me like that? 798 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: No more? 799 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 4: I said, you you do what I do. You know 800 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, don't do that? 801 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: Well, I know somebody who did try you who really? People? 802 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, some producer tragic. They're trying. They're trying, and 803 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: we're going to call you with that is it. Let's 804 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 4: follow go to cold Now we're gonna be going to 805 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 4: Federal colt. Well it now I had to follow losso 806 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 4: I reached out to him. They respine, so he he's 807 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: going to the producer's now on Macaroni Tony Macaroni, Tony Macaroney, 808 00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 4: Tony never mag and cheese because Macarone it's the one 809 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 4: who made the beat man. 810 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. He on the lawsuit too. It's gonna come down 811 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: to the label that's gonna have to pay them. Yeah, 812 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: it's the label and the publishers. Yeah. 813 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 4: You know how at work everybody be thinking I'm attacking 814 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 4: the orders and stuff. 815 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 2: Man Like, I like, what them kids doing, you know 816 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Let them do the thing. But the 817 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: end of the day, it's business. She used it on 818 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: that song tomorrow, right, yeah, tomorrow? Yeah she ain't. She 819 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: don't know, she ain't. I don't know. I hear a 820 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 2: beat man. It's live. 821 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: And if I'm not familiar with the beat, you know, 822 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: most beats that came my way out, I ain't know 823 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: where the sample came from or whatever. 824 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 2: It's jamming. Let's do it. 825 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: I wrap on the beat. I leave it up to 826 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: the publishers in the record label to do the clearest 827 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: part of it. 828 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: That's the thing. I just get in and do what 829 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 2: I gotta do, you know. 830 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 4: And that's all they have to do is go in 831 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 4: there and do a license the add me to the 832 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 4: song and do what they got they didn't do that, 833 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's really they're the 834 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: ones who let the ortis down to. 835 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: What probably he probably looked up and said that you 836 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: was inactive. 837 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they probably gonna lee because the song 838 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 4: like almost thirty years ago, you know what I'm saying. 839 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 4: So they're like, oh, he probably ain't around the more. 840 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 4: Probably boom, you know what I'm saying. No, I'm ow 841 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 4: it my fans. My fans soon when they heard it. 842 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: Oh gee, they took your they took your your stuff. 843 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: So what happened when you made the initial contact and 844 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: said hey, you know the lawyer made the contact and 845 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: said yo yo yo, Yeah, I'm sure your lawyer sent 846 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: the letter and put them on notice. And how did they. 847 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: Respect his words? To me? 848 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 4: He talked to the producer lawyer, and he talked to 849 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 4: hall lawyer, you know what I'm saying. And at first 850 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 4: he said, they try to come with a low ball, 851 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: but then the noball he was saying something like ten 852 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 4: percent and a few nickels or something. He said, you 853 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Yeah, But then after that he 854 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 4: went kind of back, and then they ain't never respect 855 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 4: ain't no more. So I guess they figure or they 856 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 4: probably just go away, you know what I'm saying. So 857 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 4: then the next step, you gotta follow the lawsuit. And 858 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 4: when he followed lawsuit, that's what TMZ made it public 859 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 4: because you know, lawsuits public files. And once he did, 860 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 4: once he did that, then they jumped on it, you 861 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So the next step is not 862 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: a subpoena everybody, and then you know, frag it on 863 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 4: off the court. 864 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, have you ever used 865 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: somebody stuff and got song man? I never got so. 866 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 2: I never got so. No, I never got here because 867 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: we were gangster with it back then. 868 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, you Steve Miller like that for on that 869 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: Gangster the Bloove son Man. We tried to get it 870 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: clear he didn't want a clarb, so we were like, well, 871 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: fuck you then, nigga. 872 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, We want this song man, 873 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: We got to use this song man. 874 00:41:53,080 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: This I remember it like it was today, Like I remember, Yeah, 875 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: he came to get the money. 876 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 2: No, you can't get the money, but hey, look it 877 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: was it was. It was a good, good exchange for us. 878 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 4: And that's how I was back in the day. I like, man, 879 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: we use it. If it make money, I'm just pay them. 880 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: Yeah we paid him, like he got paid. But the 881 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: thing we didn't mind because Gangster Love was one of 882 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: our best songs. It's one of the most requested songs, 883 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 1: and so we made that money in a thousand times over. 884 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah, that was a fact change. 885 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 4: But it's a lot easier now, will you know what 886 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying. You can just go down and grab licenses. 887 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 4: You know, it wasn't back like when we was doing 888 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 4: it that you had to vote to all these spaghetti 889 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 4: traps to get to the person. Like right now, you 890 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 4: can just put it in like you know, my song 891 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 4: was published where they could. 892 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 2: Just went right there and got it and license and 893 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: signed me. 894 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 4: They might have reached out to me. The geta clems 895 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 4: is like that, now you know what I'm saying. But 896 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 4: they tried me, they lost. 897 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 2: They lost. They don't lose this one. Yeah, and now 898 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: now you want it all. I'm sure we. 899 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 4: Got to open the books. We got to see what 900 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,959 Speaker 4: they're working with. That's a big song. It's a good 901 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 4: song too, and it's a good big it's a good you. 902 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: Know, somebody used master. 903 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 1: I want it all, bro, like if you use it 904 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: like if you if you reach out. 905 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 2: It's different, exact but exact. Muse it. I'm gonna pull 906 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 2: a Steve Miller. Yeah, I won't go what time? 907 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, pay me. I want it all for real, for real. 908 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: But I mean it's a good look for me because 909 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 4: now I'm back circulating, you know what I'm saying, lack 910 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 4: of mobile. Joe in the building said, well, one of 911 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 4: my favorites. 912 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: Will it this big? Right? Yah? Well, I ain't gonna lie. 913 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: That's big, right, appreciate it? Yes, up? 914 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's good to see you finally, you know, 915 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: getting your recognition in this landscape called music. Yes, you know, 916 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: because people are like, oh we did that, that that 917 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: person because they know your artist. 918 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Oh, they know, they know 919 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 2: now exactly. 920 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 4: You know, like back in the nineties, man, it wasn't 921 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 4: too many doors, you know, for us in the South. 922 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 4: You know that even with y'all. You know what I'm saying, 923 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 4: it was hard to get through. They wasn't trying to 924 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 4: recognize us at that time. But you know, we was 925 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 4: damping some good, good music. 926 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah. 927 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: And when I say they, I mean they outside of 928 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Yeah, I'm talking about people outside of New Orleans. 929 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: They the artist, you know. But but you you're doing 930 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: a good job getting yourself out there and getting on 931 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: the circuit. And you got to tell your story, because 932 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: who better to tell it than you? 933 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 4: Exactly, you gotta tell you help me and the universe 934 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 4: faid me life to tell it. 935 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell it. It's my story, it's my history. 936 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 2: To reloaded podcasts will be right back after street Man, 937 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 2: How did that history begin? At home? Like? What was 938 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: it like? A little a little what was little Joe? 939 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 3: Like? 940 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,919 Speaker 4: Man, my childhood was so so fun because I had 941 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 4: six brothers. 942 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: I had seven sisters, damn yeah, all in the same house. 943 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 944 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: Well well yeah my mom and we had the same 945 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: mom and the sad daddy. Yeah. And I was the 946 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 2: youngest of all of them, you know what I'm saying. 947 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 4: And like I said, my daddy he had you know, businesses, 948 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 4: so we had money. 949 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: We had a big house. 950 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 4: So on the weekend, sadness, everybody came to our house, 951 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And that's when the forty 952 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 4: five record was out and all that. So I was 953 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 4: like the DJ, you know what I'm saying. So I 954 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 4: played a records and in our dance and all that. 955 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 4: You know, I had crazy That's what I used to do, 956 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So my childhood it was, 957 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 4: it was beautiful, you know what I'm saying. Because back then, 958 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 4: if even if somebody got married, our house big enough, 959 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: you didn't go through. You didn't have no halls to 960 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 4: go to. They got married at our house. Everything was 961 00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 4: right there at the house. 962 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: You grew up in the household with thirty with twelve siblings, 963 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: Well you said thirteen and mom and dad and the 964 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: entire time. 965 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom and dad stayed together the whole time. Yeah. 966 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 4: One of my brothers died before I was born, though 967 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 4: one of them had died, you know what I'm saying, 968 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 4: So I never really got to know him. 969 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 2: So did y'all? Did you always? Did you feel rich? 970 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: Did you feel that y'all had everything that y'all needed? 971 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: Did you feel loved growing up? 972 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I felt that. 973 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 4: You felt I had the best, the best parents in 974 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: the world. My parents was the best thing ever came 975 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 4: in my life, my mother and my father. When my 976 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 4: father died my mama was my best friend. So she 977 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 4: passed like it was nothing I couldn't talk to my 978 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 4: mom about. 979 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: So when you made your decision to get into the 980 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: street life, how did that affect your relationship with your parents? 981 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 4: Well, my dad was gone, because my dad was I 982 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 4: was never. I was never probably went that way. 983 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 2: And how old were you when you got into the streets. 984 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 4: Oh, when I really got into the cocaine, I was 985 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 4: like in my early twenties. But like right as my 986 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 4: dad died and my friend of mine to see how 987 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 4: he treated my mom, I'm like, man, my mom gonna 988 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 4: still live that sound. 989 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 2: Wait, know what I'm saying. 990 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: You because you felt the obligation exactly exactly step up exactly. 991 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like it was on me to keep 992 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 4: the family together, you know what I'm saying. 993 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: So then I stepped out that. 994 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 4: But at the time, before I really got into selling drugs, 995 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 4: I used to do business burgers and stuff like that. 996 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 4: Like I used to hijack trucks and breaking businesses and 997 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 998 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I did that. Yeah, allegedly 999 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: that's what I did, you know what I'm saying. Right, 1000 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 2: But after that error was. 1001 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 4: Over, then I started, you know, working in the streets 1002 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 4: doing stuff, and I accumulate money fast because of my 1003 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: business skills that I knew, you know, I knew how 1004 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,720 Speaker 4: to take care of being know how to manage money 1005 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. 1006 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: So that's helped me a lot. 1007 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you still like signing artist now? 1008 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 2: Are you back? 1009 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 3: Not? 1010 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 4: Really, I'm not really trying to sign all this. I'm 1011 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 4: kind of past that, you know what I'm saying. I'm 1012 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 4: trying to just get my catalog recognized. You know what 1013 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying right now? For me, it ain't really about 1014 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 4: lack of more. It's about my autists getting what they deserve, 1015 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I want to make 1016 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 4: sure if something do happen to me, I'm putting their 1017 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 4: music what it can be, you know what I'm saying, 1018 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 4: to what they can get, what they supost to get. 1019 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, and their recognition. You know 1020 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. It's like, you know, cheek it is 1021 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: the Mother Torch. We was the. 1022 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 4: First one to put it on WAX. I want to, 1023 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 4: you know, on a national platform. I want her to 1024 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 4: be known for that. I want us to be known. Yeah, 1025 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 4: I want us to be known Mobile Joe Records for 1026 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 4: what we did as a group, just like cash Money 1027 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 4: No Limit. I just want everybody to be known for 1028 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 4: that before us signing groups and all that. You know, 1029 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 4: I got a couple of projects already finished, and I 1030 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 4: just dropped the rule of juvenile thirty anniversary, you know 1031 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, to celebrate their legacy. I basically did 1032 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 4: that for the fans, for my fan base, you know 1033 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. That's why I really came back. You 1034 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because my personal life is pretty 1035 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 4: much intact. 1036 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, where are you with. 1037 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: Your son? You know, the son that you said that 1038 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: don't want to inherit the bu. 1039 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: My youngest son. He he the best son in the world. 1040 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1041 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 4: Like, he don't give me no problem graduate he worked, 1042 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 4: you know. But it's like I just got him to 1043 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 4: start working on a trucking business, you know what I'm saying, 1044 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 4: Just doing a little bit, you know what I'm saying. 1045 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 4: But for some reason, I'm gonna say like that, like 1046 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 4: one of my little nieces, right she was starting all 1047 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 4: their business and I offer some help. And this was 1048 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 4: all words and That's why I think a lot of that. 1049 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 4: I don't want a handout, and I think that's what 1050 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 4: he'd be at with it. You know what I'm saying. 1051 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 4: They think it's a handout. They want to do it 1052 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 4: on his own. Now I help. 1053 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: Listen up, Listen up, your youngsters, y'all pay attention. I'm 1054 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: gonna give some of y'all out there, got some youngsters 1055 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: in the other room. Gonna give your moment to bring 1056 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: them in. Okay, times up. 1057 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 2: Listen. It's not a handout. It's a hand up. 1058 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: When you give him information and instructions along the way, 1059 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: that's a hand up, not a handout. The idea for 1060 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:07,400 Speaker 1: each generation is for the following generation to do better 1061 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: than they did, to have it a little easier. That 1062 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: don't mean have it lazier. That means easier, meaning that 1063 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to go through all of the what 1064 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: do you say, spaghetti traps and stuff we made that 1065 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: and make the same mistakes that my daddy made. His 1066 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: daddy made. You know, it's a thing called nepotism. 1067 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 1068 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: Ice Cube Son played him in a movie straight out 1069 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: of Compton. Now, how much sense would it make for 1070 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: ice Cube Son to say, well, you know, Dad, I 1071 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: don't want to play you, even though I know I 1072 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: could do it, and you know it would be a 1073 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 1: slam dump. I think I just want to go blaze 1074 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: my own path, you know, in the movie industry, and 1075 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,399 Speaker 1: still do it. But I don't want to. I don't 1076 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: want to. I don't want people looking at me as certain. 1077 00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: Man. 1078 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 1: You think the Rockefeller give a damn about what y'all 1079 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: think about nepotism and their children having it easier. You 1080 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: think the rock what do they call them, the Rothchilds, 1081 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: and even the Trumps, they don't give a damn about 1082 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 1: all that stuff y'all talking about, Oh I don't want 1083 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: to have a hand out and all that stuff. 1084 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 4: Man. 1085 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: People, then people understand that I put the work in. 1086 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: My daddy put the work in. My mam will put 1087 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 1: the work in so that I don't have to do 1088 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,800 Speaker 1: as much, so that I could have I could actually 1089 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 1: have a running start, you know, instead of starting that 1090 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: square hey like they started that don't make no damn 1091 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: sense to me. 1092 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: It's stupid. 1093 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,919 Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of youngsters make so many 1094 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: damn mistakes because they won't they won't take advice, they 1095 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: won't seek advice, let me tell you something, bro, I 1096 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: I got a shotgun, and I love that shotgun. Me 1097 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: and him we very close. And I got I got 1098 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: an AR two. Right if in the middle of the night, 1099 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: somebody tried to come into my house, the shotgun is 1100 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: my first preference. And I got handguns, but the shotgun 1101 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: is what I would grab first because I don't have 1102 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: to adjust my eyes. All I gotta do is squeeze 1103 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: that trick. I'm gonna hit something something. You know what 1104 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying with the aar, I gotta be a little 1105 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 1: bit more accurate. 1106 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Handgun? 1107 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: You know I got fifteen Man, that shotgun gonna hit 1108 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: your ass in the nose and the ankle, you know, 1109 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: and your pinky finger. Some gonna get hit your ass, 1110 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna throw you off, some kind of yeah, 1111 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: man said shotgun. If something coming through that door right there, 1112 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: all you gotta do is Ai'm at that door. 1113 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 2: You're gonna hit something. 1114 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: Whatever standing that door, You're gonna hit it. So why 1115 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: would I grab a nine millimeter or twenty two a 1116 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 1: darringer exactly? Oh A damn a damn baseball back a stick. 1117 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: I got a damn shot with that shotgun exactly. 1118 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: And somebody trying to come through that door. I'm grabbing 1119 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 1: the shotgun, bro, because I want to win every time. 1120 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make. 1121 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 2: Miss exactly exactly. 1122 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: And it seemed like some people they just hard headed, man, 1123 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: they just got up make the mistake. But I also 1124 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: do believe that a lot of times people make mistakes 1125 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: that whether they say pride comes before the fall, I 1126 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: did it myself. I used to make mistakes like that 1127 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: when I was younger. I didn't have a daddy to 1128 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: go to and consult or whatever. But that was certain 1129 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: dudes around me, man, that had more than what I had, 1130 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: and I already did what I was trying to do, 1131 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't go to them. 1132 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: You know, I just want you. 1133 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: As a man, I'm stubborn and I wanted I made 1134 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 1: them and I'm gonna do it on my own and 1135 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: just made a mistake after mistake after mistake that I 1136 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: did not have to make. Yeah, And so I would 1137 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: I would employ these youngsters out here to learn from 1138 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: the mistakes of others, you know, like you know, like 1139 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 1: they say, you know why, a smart man learns from 1140 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: his mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. 1141 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 2: That's true. So why the hell. 1142 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: Am I going to go around that corner if somebody 1143 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: just came from around the corner just got shot up, 1144 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,720 Speaker 1: that's right, and he bleeding profuse gathering, he coming around 1145 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: like I just got stabbed. This dude is stabbing everybody 1146 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: around the corner. Why the hell would I go around? 1147 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: Are quack and want to get stabbed? They don't make 1148 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:47,440 Speaker 1: no sense. 1149 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think my son and a lot 1150 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 4: of these young men having problems because you got, like 1151 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 4: you said, your daddy, you ain't have a dad in 1152 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:57,280 Speaker 4: your life. 1153 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 2: They got a lot of these rappers and guys that 1154 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 2: don't have that. 1155 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,240 Speaker 4: But that's not an every household, you see what I'm saying. 1156 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 4: So when you got that daddy, thew and you got 1157 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 4: ten friends that the dad like all their friends that 1158 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 4: love me, you know what I'm saying, They raise their 1159 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 4: kid mister Joe. You know cause what they call mister Joe. 1160 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 4: You know this, I learned this and that. But then 1161 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 4: they be thinking, oh, it's a it's a pushback, you 1162 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like I just showed him a 1163 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 4: couple of months ago, I had to show him the 1164 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 4: little guy like my adopted's son, like he do my 1165 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 4: front office paperwork. 1166 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 2: I said, look, man, this. 1167 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 4: Man mad thirty nine thousand dollars and six months writing 1168 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 4: his own check and its own schedule. 1169 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 2: But then you driving for piece of hud bro. You 1170 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 1171 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 4: Then it's something happened to me. You my only son. 1172 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,439 Speaker 4: You need to know the business to carry it on, 1173 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 1174 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 2: But they just be that. 1175 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 4: It seems like he's starting to come around, like he's 1176 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 4: starting to see like you know what, my daddy. 1177 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 2: And I'm haining at me like you know, saying, let 1178 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 2: me get with them, you know what I'm saying. 1179 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 4: And I ain't gonna lie growing up for me. I 1180 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 4: got to take my leg I ain't had no handouts, 1181 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 4: I ain't had no help. The older guys they showed 1182 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 4: me stuff. But when I got to my teenage years, 1183 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,920 Speaker 4: all these older guys was dying off. 1184 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 2: The old men had them died off. 1185 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 4: The generator spost teach us like I came here in 1186 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 4: sixty seven, So the fifties, the ones came in fifty seven, 1187 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 4: there was you know a lot of them was drawing 1188 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 4: the drugs and stuff, so they wasn't really teaching us. 1189 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 4: So I had to really get mine out of sawd pipe. 1190 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 4: I had to really get it. And having money young, 1191 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 4: being raised the way I was, I ain't used to 1192 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 4: know how to tell people. Know, if you can't ask 1193 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 4: me for something, I had it here a man boom, 1194 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 4: And why'd you do that? Because my mama raised me 1195 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 4: like that? You know what I'm saying, Like say like this, 1196 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 4: how I was in my household saying me and you 1197 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 4: friends like you one of my best friends. So say 1198 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 4: we go to the ballpark, we kids, we shooting. We said, okay, 1199 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 4: we're gonna play the best out of five. You know 1200 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 4: you win. So I'm mad with your boy friends. So 1201 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 4: we might go home. Because our house was so big, 1202 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 4: I go because I'm mad with Will. I'll go sneaking 1203 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 4: the pot and I duck off and go eat. If 1204 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 4: my mama came in there and she's seeing Will sitting 1205 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 4: there and she said, boy, you want some? If you 1206 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 4: said yeah, I had an ass whooping for that. See 1207 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying because she always taught me to shall 1208 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 4: look out for your family, look out for your people. 1209 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 2: So I was raised like that. 1210 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, but I grew up and 1211 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 4: it took me a while to figure how to separate it. 1212 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know I said believe it or not. 1213 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 4: I didn't learn how to say no until I went 1214 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 4: to prison at nine eight. That's when I learned how 1215 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 4: to say no one because if I had it and 1216 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 4: I ain't caret. 1217 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: So was there a particular incident that made you shut 1218 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: that down? 1219 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, because on a prison or something I ain't never 1220 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 4: wanted to do. I ain't never want to go. 1221 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 2: To jo talking about like with that particular incident in 1222 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 2: while you were in No, it wasn't. It wasn't. 1223 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 4: It wasn't a particular incident. I was fortunately young. I 1224 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 4: had time to start thinking and figuring out that you 1225 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 4: have to know when to turn some things off. So 1226 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 4: that time that I had, by me being away from 1227 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 4: all it could you can act that I'm in jail, 1228 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's when I figure 1229 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 4: out how things had to start being. That's when I learned. 1230 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1231 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: Here's a burning question I have for you. Your name 1232 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: is ire Joe Payne. You have this record label called 1233 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: Mobile Records, and you got these artists with all of 1234 00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: these gangst names like you know doghouse posse lower level 1235 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: uh organization you got uh uh Julish juganizers. 1236 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,080 Speaker 2: Why didn't you just name the label pain Records? I 1237 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 2: mean it was right there, in line. 1238 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: With the Gates, you know, well, the name was right there. 1239 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 2: First of all, I didn't like Ivory growing up. It 1240 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 2: was soft to me. You couldn't really call me that 1241 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 2: unless you grew up my neighborhood. Yeah, you know what 1242 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I didn't like that now the South, Yeah, 1243 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 2: I took your name is but I love it now. 1244 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 2: I love it now. Yeah, I love it now. 1245 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying because the women love it 1246 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 4: and I you know what I meaning is unique. 1247 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1248 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 4: So I know she's done well. The name Mobile came 1249 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 4: from one of my childhood friends. He named me Mobo, 1250 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 4: and it like back then, when I was around the 1251 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 4: seventh grade, it was called me Joe because my name 1252 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 4: Ivory Joe Payne. 1253 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 2: So this is always called me Joe. 1254 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 4: So at this time, when I was around the seven 1255 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 4: eighth grade, like people say whoa then back then everybody 1256 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 4: said what's up? Bowt, what's going on boat right. So, 1257 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 4: like I said, I was so young, but I always 1258 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 4: hung with the older guys. I always was moving around. 1259 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 4: So if I was sixteen, I hung with guys twenty 1260 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 4: twenty five. 1261 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 2: So one day I was they was looking for. 1262 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 4: The guys my age, and they was like, man, Joe 1263 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 4: was seen with this one, seeing with that one lost 1264 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 4: their shot. He said the next day, we're gona make 1265 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 4: up nicknames. I got your name. I said it was mine. 1266 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 2: He said, Mobo Joe. I said, man, what are you 1267 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: talking about? 1268 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,439 Speaker 4: He said, well, we're gonna take the mo and rhyme 1269 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 4: with bowl because everybody's say and we're gonna just take 1270 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 4: that Joe own it. 1271 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 2: I said, what does it mean? 1272 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 4: Back then Bell saw mobility slogan was on the goal, right, 1273 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 4: he said, stand for on the goal because you always going. 1274 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 4: So then I adopted it. So that's why everybody's to 1275 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 4: call me mobo Joe. 1276 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That It was smooth, I 1277 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 2: mean smooth, yeah, mobile, this move, you know. 1278 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 4: But the sick names, the groups and all that, it 1279 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 4: just was like, I come up, man, I listened to. 1280 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 2: All hard music, bro, Like I'm talking about, listen to 1281 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 2: all the hard stuff. The Willities, the iceh Q, the easy. 1282 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 4: So when them young guys, you know, at this in 1283 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,479 Speaker 4: fifteen sixteen, when it came in my world, now lower 1284 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 4: level organization, that was the name men that toy E 1285 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 4: came up with. But that's meant being from a lower level, 1286 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 4: being deprived of what we're supposed to get as a 1287 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 4: black race. You know what I'm saying, being in poverty. 1288 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 4: That's what lower level organization meant. You know what I'm 1289 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 4: saying to what because like I say, when I left 1290 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 4: from Harvey and went to Desire Project, I didn't know 1291 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 4: a little bit for my sisters starting to get the 1292 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 4: welfare and food stamps, but we didn't have that for 1293 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 4: my dad, you know what I'm saying. So that's what 1294 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 4: that name comes from. But when the guys came, I 1295 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 4: was living a rootless life. So these young guys, they're 1296 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 4: right there and that's when we started, you know. But 1297 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 4: the rutless name came from the crooked and OPD. They 1298 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 4: there's some dirty stuff to rutless juvenile, and it was 1299 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,640 Speaker 4: like what you are rutless juveniles doing? That's what one 1300 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 4: of the police called them. They came back and told 1301 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 4: to me when we was just we had a name 1302 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 4: for the group. So when he said that, let me 1303 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 4: have that, you know what I'm saying, And it just 1304 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 4: went like that, cool, cool, cool. What's the podcast going 1305 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,479 Speaker 4: to be about doing? Like what do you be talking 1306 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 4: about in the podcast? On the lack of podcast, I'm 1307 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 4: gonna talk about like I just did a lack of 1308 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 4: more draft? 1309 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Right, good, I just did it what lack ofmo show. 1310 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 4: It's online right now and it's called the most what 1311 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 4: valuable job. 1312 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 2: On the planet being a parent? Right? 1313 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 4: And on that lack of More, I'm breaking down how 1314 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 4: importner it is for us as parents, especially you younger 1315 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 4: parents with them cell phones, right, because you're giving these 1316 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,479 Speaker 4: kids these phones and you not monitor them. You're letting 1317 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 4: the phone part them. So I had a situation a 1318 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 4: few years ago, me and my adopted son was in 1319 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 4: we was down there in Wildwood, Florida, right, and I 1320 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 4: was telling them on our way back, his son like 1321 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 4: nine years old and he had a phone, and you know, 1322 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 4: we just to rule his juvenile you know kids and 1323 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 4: all that, but the music he was living something like, man, 1324 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 4: you know this music is getting real to these kids. 1325 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,200 Speaker 2: We ain't have phones though, you know what I'm saying, 1326 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 2: like they had. 1327 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 4: So I'm like, you shouldn't he shouldn't have a phone, 1328 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 4: because he was trying to tell me that he was 1329 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 4: trying to tell his wife not to have the phone. 1330 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Right, all right, speed it up. 1331 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 4: So I'm telling him that we gets back, I'm like, 1332 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 4: before we got back, I'm like, you. 1333 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 2: Got to talk to your wife about this boy with 1334 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 2: this phone? Kis home? 1335 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 4: Will? He called me about nine o'clock that night. He said, Pop, 1336 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 4: He said, you're gonna be up for a mick. I 1337 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 4: go to sleep early. I said, yeah, what's going on? 1338 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 4: He said, i'nna call you back. I'm hoping that w 1339 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 4: and his wife aint got into it. So he tells 1340 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 4: me that man, you write about these phones. His seven 1341 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 4: year old daughter had a cell phone. His wife goes 1342 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 4: back in the phone till six months, three months, and 1343 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 4: the phone, this seven year old girl had been watching 1344 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 4: little boys have sex with little boys little girls on 1345 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 4: the phone. This real well that this little girl unseen. 1346 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,439 Speaker 4: Once you see something, you can't take it away. Seven 1347 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 4: years old, you know what I'm saying. So then I 1348 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 4: got a friend of mine truck. He had a mobile 1349 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 4: abound and now Chris when at this truck show. His 1350 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 4: little boy had a phone too. I called him, No, 1351 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 4: I texted him. I said, well, you hit me when 1352 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 4: you get some free timey to talk to you. 1353 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 2: He calls me. 1354 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 4: I said, man, what's going? Said man, look, I need 1355 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 4: to talk to you about this incident with the phone. 1356 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:12,880 Speaker 4: When I talked to him, His daughter thirteen got a phone. 1357 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Know what she been doing. 1358 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 4: She been going back and forll the little girl on 1359 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,919 Speaker 4: sex stuff at thirteen years old. 1360 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I talked about stuff 1361 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 2: like that. You know what I'm saying. 1362 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 4: I talked about the food we eat, all this food 1363 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 4: that did. You know you gotta be very careful what 1364 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 4: you're putting in your body. You know, people like, man, 1365 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,760 Speaker 4: how you look so young, look so good. I don't 1366 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 4: eat like that. Then from I e my last meal 1367 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 4: December thirty first, I ate the last meal, no later 1368 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 4: than seven o'clock. I don't eat no mold to January 1369 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 4: twenty second. I've been doing that since like twenty fifteen. 1370 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 4: How fast you mean you don't eat after seven o'clock? 1371 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 2: No, I don't eat for twenty one days? What you 1372 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 2: mean you don't eat for twenty I just drank water. 1373 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 2: We mean you drink what's you talking about? How fast? 1374 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 2: Twenty one day, twenty one days every month. I do 1375 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: it once a year. You do once a year from 1376 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 2: what day? 1377 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 4: From the first of the year, I don't eat to 1378 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 4: the twenty second of January, I just drank water. And 1379 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 4: after about that says twenty fifteen, for twenty one days 1380 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 4: anything you drink water. You don't drink any juices, no, 1381 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:25,440 Speaker 4: no juices. 1382 01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 2: Well, I drank straight. 1383 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 4: I drank just a little sip one hundred percent apple juice. 1384 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 4: It can't be from other juices. It gotta be one 1385 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 4: hundred percent apple juice. Because after about seven days, eight days, 1386 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 4: your moum will get, you know, real real dry, you 1387 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And you got to get you 1388 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 4: some sugar free holes because your your mouth gonna get 1389 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 4: dry and stuff like that. But doing this, it cleans 1390 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 4: your body out, you know what I'm saying. Just like 1391 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 4: you said earlier about your call got exhaust pipe, you 1392 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 4: flush your call ready here, you frush your call out. 1393 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 4: You don't frush your system. You know what I'm saying, 1394 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 4: a lot of time your sales reproduced. So if you 1395 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 4: got canceled, you know, by these fastest. 1396 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 2: It's breaks this. How the hell do you not eat 1397 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 2: and not fall out? Willing you? You was a box 1398 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 2: of well as matter of fact, I just he wind 1399 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,920 Speaker 2: up doing it twice. 1400 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 4: Hold on second and I just got my ex girlfriend 1401 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 4: she did it this year. 1402 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 2: Whip me and my nephew did it. How do you 1403 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,599 Speaker 2: get through it? When will it? You have so twenty 1404 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 2: four hours? 1405 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 4: You know it's the first steventy two. It's your hardest. 1406 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 4: It's the first seventy two, the first in the first 1407 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 4: to fall out. No, well, I'm talking about the first 1408 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,719 Speaker 4: steven to two. You don't want to go around food. 1409 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna go in the kitchen. After that, you're not 1410 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 2: gonna have no more cravy. 1411 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 4: So you got parasites that lives in you by this 1412 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 4: bad food that they really addicted to the sugar. So 1413 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: that's what like a kid or even you, you might 1414 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 4: go somewhere and you might see something that you like, 1415 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 4: a hundred bun. Two reasons why you want that hundred 1416 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 4: bun because it registered with the parasites that lives in you. 1417 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 2: Plus you had a relationship. 1418 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 4: With that hunting bun. You know how it tastes you 1419 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, some people might pull the left piece. 1420 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 4: So that relationship and then you go to thinking about 1421 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 4: the parasitle. 1422 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need that, you know what I'm saying. That's 1423 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 2: how it works. 1424 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 4: So you get a parasite, you get to flush your 1425 01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 4: system just like you flush your car. 1426 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:35,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1427 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 4: It's not hard after the twenty one days, I mean, 1428 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 4: after the three days, the seventy two hours, you're not 1429 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 4: gonna be hunger anymore. With the after three days, maybe 1430 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 4: the fifth, sixth, seventh day, you're gonna start using a. 1431 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 2: Bathroom like you gonna. I drive my truck and off 1432 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 2: when I'm doing this, Man, this is what I'm trying 1433 01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 2: to get to. Bro have. 1434 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: The closest I've come to fasting is is uh, when 1435 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: I was doing the vegan thing, why I juiced. I've 1436 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: juiced for like seventy two hours, and then I've uh, 1437 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: then I've juiced for a week, and then I like 1438 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 1: for two weeks. I was a vegan for two weeks. 1439 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,120 Speaker 2: Bro. 1440 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: After those two weeks, man, when I was walking around, Bro, 1441 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,559 Speaker 1: I was I was by. I felt like I was 1442 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: gonna faint. Man, And you know, I'm a ghetto bock. 1443 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 1: So faint names, gangster. I cannot faint, man, I cannot 1444 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 1: do that. Man. 1445 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 4: I can work out, I can drive my truck, I 1446 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 4: can run. I can do everything I want to do. 1447 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Like the food takes your energy, It takes your energy. Man, 1448 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I tell you this. 1449 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,799 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell where I got it from. If anybody 1450 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 4: want to know, go online and man, a little sis thought. No, 1451 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 4: the Bahamas. Man, what's his name, man, doctor Miles Monroe, 1452 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 4: That's where I got it from. 1453 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,799 Speaker 2: From the Bahama. Rest in peace. He died. He teached 1454 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 2: the whole thing on his program. 1455 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 4: And killed him like they did, say you doctor Miles 1456 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 4: Monroe cut him into his minister. 1457 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 2: I used to be into all that. You know what 1458 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1459 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 4: You know, you know they shot him and his wife 1460 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 4: and the young Paula was on the plane and boom, 1461 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 4: he went down. 1462 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:26,719 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1463 01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 4: He went down in twenty fifteen because after year I 1464 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 4: went to the ministry. But he had taught me the 1465 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 4: fast because how I got on it, they had just 1466 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 4: put me on a brook Press appel. 1467 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 2: And I don't believe in people. 1468 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 4: I don't take aspirins or none of that and that 1469 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 4: when I start figuring out, man, now something man, right, 1470 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So then I start learning 1471 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 4: about fasting and stuff like that. You know what I'm 1472 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 4: It's good. But you got me thinking, You got me 1473 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 4: seriously thinking about it. 1474 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what virtually they call. 1475 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 4: I'll get your shot. I guarantee you to do it. 1476 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 4: We can do it together. I got people doing women now. 1477 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm willing to give it a shot. Man, 1478 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't mind changing. 1479 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 2: I don't mind. Man, when it's time for you to 1480 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 2: go in, you ain't got no more. How do you 1481 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,640 Speaker 2: want to be remembered? I just won't remember from you know, 1482 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 2: being a real good person. You know what I'm saying. 1483 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 4: You know a lot of people say I got a 1484 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 4: big heart, and I want to recognize from having a 1485 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 4: big heart. You know what I'm saying. You know, I 1486 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 4: just won't be recognized like you know, like my mama. 1487 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,080 Speaker 4: She went as a legend. You know what I'm saying. 1488 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 4: Everybody you know loved to my mama, and I just 1489 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,000 Speaker 4: won't be loved. 1490 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1491 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I really won't be 1492 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 4: known for the love of God for my people. I 1493 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,880 Speaker 4: don't love nothing on as planet more than a love 1494 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 4: I hell for us as a race, because I know 1495 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 4: we were set up. 1496 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: I know that don't get no really than that. Ladies 1497 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Mobo Joe on the Real No More Talk. 1498 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by A King and brought to 1499 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 2: you by 1500 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 1: The Black Effect Podcast Network at iHeartRadio