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Speaker 1: a couple different reasons. We are going to discuss. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the end of the Ukraine Russia War

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Speaker 1: There's so much to talk about when it comes to

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Speaker 1: that war. Some of it may offend you a morning

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Speaker 1: you right now, We're gonna have a hard talk tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a moment that's coming. Democrats

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Speaker 1: on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk

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Speaker 1: because this is obviously going to eventually get to Russia Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: get there, that's where we're going. But let's talk about

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Speaker 1: life black and white in gray. If you will, the

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Speaker 1: United States of America, if you had to, if you

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Speaker 1: had to choose our finest moment, our finest accomplishment, what

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Speaker 1: would it be, just off the top of your head,

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Speaker 1: real quick, what would it be? You probably said World

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Speaker 1: War Two? And oh you did, Chris, and Chris did.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Look even if you didn't, maybe you didn't.

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Speaker 1: If you went and asked one hundred people, with them

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Speaker 1: They will say World War Two? And it's I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you're wrong, keep in mind, but it's understandable. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about why World War Two in Americans' minds

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Speaker 1: is our finest hour, the greatest generation, the greatest moment,

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Speaker 1: because well, there's a lot of reasons for it, but

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Speaker 1: one of the main reasons was this, we took on

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Speaker 1: not one, but two in defensively, indefensively evil empires and

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Speaker 1: we won, and we smashed those empires to dust, removed

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Speaker 1: rest of the world. We look at ourselves as world

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Speaker 1: wrong about that. Okay, that's good. We're probably all together

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Speaker 1: so far. Now Japan, we'll stick with Japan. Germany, the

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Speaker 1: same thing applies, but we'll stick with Japan for now.

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Speaker 1: The strategic bombing campaign of Japan. Did you know, Look,

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Speaker 1: still debated. Should we have dropped the atom bob all

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Speaker 1: those other things? But did you know that bombing Japanese cities,

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Speaker 1: which we bomb virtually all of them. Everyone knows about

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Speaker 1: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we reduced all of them to dust.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that even at the time, it was

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Speaker 1: that unconditional surrender. You've heard that term many times before

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Speaker 1: in your life. Unconditional surrender was how the war with

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Speaker 1: Japan must end. Unconditional surrender. You don't get to come

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Speaker 1: have no say. That's what unconditional surrender is. And after

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Speaker 1: That's how we came to an unconditional surrender. How in

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Speaker 1: This is about today. This is very, very very much

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Speaker 1: our reverence, our reverence. Look, I just I've been talking

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Speaker 1: for World War Two, how it was fought and how

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Speaker 1: we ended it. Unconditional surrender has become lumped in with

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Speaker 1: how Americans think wars are supposed to be fought, and frankly,

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Speaker 1: how they've always been fought no.

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Speaker 2: Matter who you are fighting, whether you're fighting Al Qaeda,

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Speaker 2: whether you're fighting the Russians, the Chaikams, whether you're fighting Japan, Germany,

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Speaker 1: I'm an American, and as an American, the only thing

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Speaker 1: I will accept this unconditional surrender. After all, that's what

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Speaker 1: the history of the world, has ended with a negotiated peace,

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Speaker 1: not unconditional surrender. A negotiated peace where one side, even

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Speaker 3: Even the most horrible, drawn out, bloody wars, whether it

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Speaker 1: Or whether it's with bombs, bullets, machine guns in the

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Speaker 1: like the most terrible, agonizing, awful. Wars generally end where

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Speaker 1: Let's sit down, begin negotiations, and hash out a negotiated peace.

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Speaker 1: And that is a hard thing to swallow for a

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Speaker 1: you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of World War two and Americans framing everything around that,

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Speaker 1: we've also completely rewritten the history of World War two,

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Speaker 1: This is a United States Senator Chris Vanholland listened to

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Speaker 4: But what they did in Munich.

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Speaker 4: But what they did in Munich with President Zelenski was

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Speaker 4: primarily to bully them, right The Secretary of Treasury handed

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how much of the British

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Speaker 1: I know. The present United States of America is run

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Speaker 1: Russian bear. And if that's the case, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I actually bless them to it. I would disagree with

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Speaker 1: the Polsy, but not my circus, not my monkey. Go

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Speaker 1: have a good time. But it is time for our

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Speaker 1: involvement in this to end, and I, for one, am

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Speaker 1: glad we are trying to end it peacefully with a negotiation.

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Speaker 1: Everyone going through a divorce says things. She's not getting

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Speaker 1: to Fine China. Everybody I've ever had, who's ever gotten

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Speaker 1: getting she's not getting my DVD set. And she walks

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Speaker 1: away with the DVD set every time, and she says

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Speaker 1: the same things ladies say to say, he's not getting it,

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Speaker 1: he's walking away with some things you love. Every time.

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Speaker 1: It's ugly. We don't like it. It's how it works,

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Speaker 1: it's how life is. Life's ugly sometimes. All right, Speaking

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Speaker 1: of ugly, let's talk about the employment situation in this country.

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Speaker 1: It's ugly. It's hard. I sympathize. If you're looking for help,

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Speaker 1: the good employees are. It has smart technology which will

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Speaker 1: get your job in front of the right person immediately.

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Speaker 1: Eighty percent of employers find someone day one. On day one.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I'm telling you wait a month. You

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Jesse. That next employee who's not Chris

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Speaker 1: waiting for you, go find him. We'll be back feeling

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Speaker 1: a little stocky, Follow like and subscribe on social at

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly's show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of taking care of business, I will get to the

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Speaker 1: emails in a moment. Remember you can email the show

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Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We will make fun

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Speaker 1: of Democrats. Shortly, we'll talk about this idea about sending

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Speaker 1: us all checks and stuff like that. Just a couple

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Speaker 1: more points really quickly. On the on the Russia Ukraine thing,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna move on one. No more of our money,

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Speaker 1: no more of our bombs, no more of our bullets,

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Speaker 1: no more of our money. If they if they want

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Speaker 1: to keep fighting, If Russia, Ukraine and Europe, if they

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Speaker 1: want to keep fighting, bless them to it. I love

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Speaker 1: the United States of America under Trump is trying to

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Speaker 1: negotiate an end to the whole thing, so the butcher

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Speaker 1: he can stop. If that is rebuffed, then have a

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Speaker 1: nice war. We will watch it on YouTube. All that said,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is bluster. Remember everyone's

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Speaker 1: staking out a negotiating position right now. No, I'll never end. No,

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Speaker 1: I won't give up these minerals. No. People like to

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Speaker 1: stake out these positions. It's part of negotiation. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before. But you know, Ukraine and Europe. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to go fight that war for Europe? Europe has

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Speaker 1: facilitated an invasion of their country by foreign barbarians. That

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Speaker 1: even makes what Joe Biden did look weak look small

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Speaker 1: by comparison. The only people who would sign up to

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Speaker 1: go fight in Europe's wars would be the native Europeans

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Speaker 1: who would be you know, Germans fighting for Germany, the

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Speaker 1: French fighting for fighting for France, things like that. So

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Speaker 1: you're what, You're going to sign up to go fight

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Speaker 1: for Ukraine against Russia and you're going to leave the

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Speaker 1: eighty five Syrian refugees in town with your wife? Nah?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Speaking of Europe, who's going to

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Speaker 1: fund it?

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Speaker 3: People?

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Speaker 1: Do understand that we the United States of America, we

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Speaker 1: fund all of Europe's defense. The reason Europe was able

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Speaker 1: to turn into a quasi socialist state with free this

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Speaker 1: and free that, and free this and free that is

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Speaker 1: because they never had to invest in a military that

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Speaker 1: could rebuff Russia. Well, if you're going to take them

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Speaker 1: on pal, guess what all those lovely social programs you

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Speaker 1: used to bribe this citizenry to get you elected, those

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Speaker 1: are going to have to go bye bye. I do

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Speaker 1: believe with all the bluster we see from Putin and

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Speaker 1: Zelenski and Europe, and I do believe the United States

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Speaker 1: of America Trump specifically, will be able to end this

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Speaker 1: thing simply because we have the most leverage. Negotiations are

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Speaker 1: all about leverage. Putin has some leverage because a he

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Speaker 1: has a bunch of nuclear weapons. B. He currently holds

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Speaker 1: some territory that used to be Ukraines. That gives him leverage.

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Speaker 1: He holds it. Ukraine can't seem to get him out

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Speaker 1: of it. That gives him leverage. The United States of

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Speaker 1: America has the most leverage by a mile, because we've

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Speaker 1: funded the entire thing. We can continue funding, and we

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Speaker 1: can end it. We have all the leverage in the world.

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Speaker 1: Ukraine like it or not. Maybe you've got yourself wrapped

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Speaker 1: in a Ukrainian blanky right now and that's fine. No,

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Speaker 1: not the dogging on you at all. Ukraine has no

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Speaker 1: leverage at all, none. They don't have the military to

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Speaker 1: repel Russia, they don't have the funds to keep things going.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any leverage at all. Zelensky has been

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Speaker 1: forced for three years to come grovel at the feet

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Speaker 1: of American politicians in order to keep the thing going.

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Speaker 1: The gravy train has to stop. The war must end.

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Speaker 1: I believe it will in the end. But again, if

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Speaker 1: Europe and Ukraine want to go, have a good time,

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. Let me know how the Russian winner works

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Speaker 1: out for you. Hey, I am Jesse. Let's do some emails.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the show. Jesse mentioned on the air that

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Speaker 1: we had wargamed Russia. I'm not questioning his accuracy. I

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Speaker 1: would just like to know the source. Keep up the

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Speaker 1: good work. Well, we have wargamed Russia, but that's not

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Speaker 1: what I said. We have wargamed China. And this was

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Speaker 1: when I was going off on a rant about American

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Speaker 1: manufacturing and logistics. And oh, by the way, speaking of logistics,

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Speaker 1: logistics guys who's gonna come on and nerd out on

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Speaker 1: some of that stuff. So just stay with me there.

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Speaker 1: But back to what I was saying, the war with China,

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Speaker 1: if there is a coming war with China, it will

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Speaker 1: be really it'll be fought over there because that's where

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Speaker 1: China is trying. They're trying to lock down their control

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Speaker 1: of that area. It's not only time on, it's the Philippines.

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Speaker 1: I smoke up this morning, there was another Chinese naval

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Speaker 1: vessel harassing people. China is trying to lock in their

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Speaker 1: sphere of influence. So if we were to actually get

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Speaker 1: into a spicy conflict with China, god forbid, because it

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Speaker 1: would be horrible. It would have to be fought over there.

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Speaker 1: They're not coming here, they don't need to come here.

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Speaker 1: They already own the American media and Hollywood and half

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Speaker 1: our politicians. But setting that aside, it would have to

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Speaker 1: be fought over there. And modern wars, if you're to

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Speaker 1: believe the experts people I trust, actually real experts, not

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Speaker 1: the more on you see on television. If you're to

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Speaker 1: believe real experts, modern wars, they're going to be Missile wars.

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Speaker 1: Kind of scary to think about, isn't it, Because it

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Speaker 1: means you can be touched from anywhere, especially now that

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Speaker 1: China has hypersonic missiles, Russia has hypersonic missiles. We are

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Speaker 1: rapidly developed and have probably already developed hypersonic missiles. That

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Speaker 1: means they can hit all of you wherever you're sitting

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Speaker 1: right now listening to the sound of my Saudi Arabia, Texas, Germany.

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Speaker 1: I don't care where it is. You can have a

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Speaker 1: missile land in your lap too. It's scary. It puts

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Speaker 1: all of us on the battlefield and missiles. A missile war,

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Speaker 1: it makes traditional ways of thinking, it can make them obsolete.

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Speaker 1: We were just talking World War Two at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of this hour. One of the things I love the

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Speaker 1: most that fills me with pride about World War Two

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Speaker 1: is sorry, my fellow Marine Corps brothers, the United States

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Speaker 1: Navy and World War Two. I talk about them lovingly

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Speaker 1: all the time. It was just awesome, this massive, powerful

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Speaker 1: fleet projecting American power all over the world. Well, why

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Speaker 1: would you pay five hundred billion dollars for an aircraft

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Speaker 1: carrier when one Chinese missile can send it to the bottom.

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Speaker 1: A missile war changes things back to what we were

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Speaker 1: discussing war games with China. It's not like we've only

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Speaker 1: fought one. We're trying to figure out how did it go.

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Speaker 1: The problem is not our navy. The problem is not

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Speaker 1: our Air Force r Army. It would never be the

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Speaker 1: Marine Corps, of course, of separ five. The problem is logistics. Missiles.

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Speaker 1: We don't have enough, we don't make enough. Let's say

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Speaker 1: China invades Taiwan, or the Philippines or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and we decide we want to go tangle with them.

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Speaker 1: We run out of missiles in a week. If they

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Speaker 1: have plenty of missiles sweeping our navy off the seas

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Speaker 1: and we don't have missiles to counter their missiles, well

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Speaker 1: war over. I don't care how many aircraft carriers you have.

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Speaker 1: War Over. It's over. That is the problem. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk a little bit, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: let's make fun of democrats and then we'll discuss sending

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Speaker 1: Americans five thousand dollars trucks.

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Speaker 5: Hang on,