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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that both tonight.

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Speaker 1: Big job there, Kyfa pret Fiers, nut.

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Speaker 4: Rock up Sucker. I believe there are a couple of

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Speaker 4: absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 5: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's oh,

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Speaker 5: come on, welcome in. We're live today. It's a Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: It is the third of September. The year is twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty four. It is episode five hundred and nine of

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Speaker 5: the Anak and Florian Podcast. Hopefully everybody had a good

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Speaker 5: labor day. You're shaking your head, ken flow, you're doing okay?

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Speaker 5: Five oh nine Yeah, crazy, Sorry, it doesn't have the

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Speaker 5: same to it as five oh eight is for dry hat.

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Speaker 5: What are you wearing today?

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Speaker 6: Oh, it's a superica. This is just some Mexican restaurant,

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Speaker 6: just like the bro I I.

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Speaker 5: Mentioned to him Strawberry Hill, right, Strawberry Hill Road, Nick, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 5: Back in the day, he was telling me this is

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Speaker 5: Strawberry Hill Road in Dova. Yeah, how about that. Chase

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Speaker 5: and Anik at Boston and joining us on today's episode.

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Speaker 5: Nice to see you, buddy, shouting out a bully b

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Speaker 5: blah Muhammad loud and proud as usual. Oh we buried

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Speaker 5: the lead. Now joining us live on the Anakin Florming

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Speaker 5: podcast for end of the program. Brother to the show

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Speaker 5: and now the undisputed UFC. Well it's way champion of

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Speaker 5: the world, belal, remember the name Mohammad champis nice to

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Speaker 5: see a brother training in a few minutes. We appreciate

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Speaker 5: your time as always.

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Speaker 4: What's up, brother, Nice to see you guys. Always love

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Speaker 4: seeing you guys.

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Speaker 5: So it's nice for us to see you and nice

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Speaker 5: for us to see Chicago, Illinois lean into its undisputed

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Speaker 5: UFC champion. So we watched from Afar as you were

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Speaker 5: paraded around Manchester and then in Abu Dhabi. It seemed

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Speaker 5: like a real celebration. But what has it been like

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Speaker 5: and what has the reception been like in Chicago, Illinois, USA,

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Speaker 5: because that's where you're from.

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Speaker 4: Man, Honestly, Chicago is epic.

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Speaker 7: You're right, Uh, you know, I had We've had the

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Speaker 7: parade for the Bulls, the White Sox, the Cubs, and

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Speaker 7: now to finally get on for myself, it was amazing

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Speaker 7: just that family, friends, there and then we had like

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Speaker 7: the the funniest thing was I was on the WGN

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Speaker 7: news was like the big news network here, yes, and

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Speaker 7: then the lady goes, oh, you're the champion of street fighting.

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Speaker 5: I was like, bro, like people still not know what

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Speaker 5: the UFC is.

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Speaker 4: It was hilarious, but it was just cool beyond w

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Speaker 4: I was like, bro, what the no? I mean?

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Speaker 5: WGN certainly rings true with sports fans throughout the United States,

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Speaker 5: to be sure, And I mean we've banged the drum

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Speaker 5: when it comes to you defending this title in Chicago,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully that happens in some point in time. So

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Speaker 5: it looks like the nose is pretty healed up. How

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Speaker 5: are things going sort of since you got back home

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Speaker 5: from what was an extended trip there in the Middle

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Speaker 5: East and sort of getting your body back acclimated to

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Speaker 5: the everyday grind.

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Speaker 4: Good. Yeah, you know, I got some scars, but right

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Speaker 4: back in the gym.

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Speaker 7: I got Nacho fighting next week at the Sphere, so

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Speaker 7: I had to go in there and help think he's

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Speaker 7: definitely a huge part of my camp. And you know,

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Speaker 7: for me now it's like all right, I gotta get

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Speaker 7: no going on vacation until after Nacho Gustien.

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Speaker 5: So, in terms of Ignaciobamndez competing at Sphere in Las

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Speaker 5: Vegas eleven days from now, I'm not sure there's any

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Speaker 5: simulation training you can do as far as the esthetic

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Speaker 5: and the venue. But have you guys had anything resembling

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Speaker 5: a discussion as to what some of the inevitably distracting

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Speaker 5: surrounding visuals might be like for the competing athletes.

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Speaker 7: We're like firing and Coach Mike's rocking around the cave

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Speaker 7: with the TV to like try to like get into

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Speaker 4: Something that we get distracted.

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Speaker 7: Nah, I mean for for us, obviously we're talking about it,

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Speaker 7: but we're just trying to keep him like locked in

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Speaker 7: trying to think about it. But I think me and

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Speaker 7: we're gonna know how to keep them locked in and not.

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Speaker 7: So it's one of those guys that he'll fight no

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Speaker 7: matter what, and he's just gonna he's gonna bring the excitement.

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Speaker 7: I think it'll hype him up even more, and I

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Speaker 1: Uh you know the main event coming up between Burns

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Speaker 6: How do you see that one going down?

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Speaker 4: Man? That one's a good one. Man.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting, right because Brady looks so good his last fight,

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Speaker 7: and for Burns, he was looking good until he got finished.

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Speaker 7: So I think it just comes now to how hungry

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Speaker 7: keeps He's talking about, Yeah, I want to fight Usman

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Speaker 7: or Leon next, but he just doesn't seem like the

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Speaker 7: same confident guy that like, I can still chase the title.

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Speaker 7: I'm still there because even if he wins, Dak Della

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Speaker 7: is still ahead of him for the title shot, and

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Speaker 7: you still know you got a long road to go.

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Speaker 7: So for him now coming off with two losses, I

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Speaker 7: think it just comes down to how motivated is. I

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Speaker 7: think Burns hits harder, but I do think that Brady

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Speaker 7: has better wrestling and it's probably stronger on top if

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Speaker 4: So I could see it being one of those where

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Speaker 7: Taking him down, and Burns goes for submissions off his

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Speaker 7: ends up winning a decision that way. But I don't

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Speaker 7: think Brady likes to get hit, so it Burns lands

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Speaker 4: I see him dropping Brady now well out.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're the champ now, and you do have

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of leverage. You know, a new champ,

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Speaker 1: but you still do have some leverage. And I think

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Speaker 1: you've spoken about this in the past how you want

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Speaker 1: to have those tough fights, But I'd imagine there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of business decisions that goes into it, right as

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Speaker 1: pressure from the UFC in regards to taking certain fights

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Speaker 1: and certain locations all that stuff? How do you manage

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Speaker 1: that moving forward? Maybe not necessarily for the next fight,

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Speaker 1: but how are you thinking.

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Speaker 6: About that now that you have this belt.

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Speaker 7: I mean, for me, when I think about it, I

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter really who it is.

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Speaker 4: But obviously I want to have the fight where it's

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Speaker 7: I think people will forget about Ushman and they're saying, oh,

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Speaker 7: Usman's on to three fight losing streak. But I think

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Speaker 7: people need to give him his respect for taking that

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: But people will look at Shafgun and say he deserves

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Speaker 7: it because he's undefeated. He's the boogeyman eighteen finishes. But

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Speaker 7: you know he's doing all this talk, but you just

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Speaker 7: had a full year off of doing nothing and you

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Speaker 7: finished wonder Boy. So it's telling me you're fragile, and

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Speaker 7: when I fight a fragley, I'm gonna break him in there.

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Speaker 5: You know, we talked Blow and I a little bit

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Speaker 5: about a lot of different things over the phone recently,

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Speaker 5: and we don't even talk about the next opponent because honestly,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. And a lot of guys say, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I don't care who I fight, or and Kenny, you

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Speaker 5: talk about the business decision, right, But like Blat wants

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Speaker 5: that shop caught smoke, he doesn't want it with an

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Speaker 5: open wound on his nose, but he'll take that smoke

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Speaker 5: whenever it is so bully like do you have a

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Speaker 5: feel November, December, January, February, any feel anything you could

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Speaker 5: tell us about timing.

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean for me, it's just basically whenever the

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Speaker 7: December works best for me. But I think it comes

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Speaker 7: down to whether or not Connor's fighting on that car,

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Speaker 7: because I doubt they put me on the same cards

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Speaker 3: That'd be fine.

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Speaker 5: I figure on the same car, that'd be fair. That'd

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Speaker 5: be fine. If you're on the same card, we can

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Speaker 5: make that work. We'll come out.

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Speaker 4: I can make that work. Yet that'll help my favorite numbers.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, it doesn't really matter to me because, like

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Speaker 7: I think, after December and on, I'm ready to go,

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Speaker 7: once I get past next weekend where Nacho's got.

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Speaker 4: His fight, then I'm cleared.

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Speaker 5: Well I'm not sure if you heard it here first,

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Speaker 5: but you heard it here from Balau Muhammad that he

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Speaker 5: interesting when Shavcott or another athlete comes out and says,

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Speaker 5: off and I'm glad you injected into the conversation. The UFC,

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Speaker 5: go to, right, So it's not always in the champion's control.

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Speaker 5: But I'm gonna hit you a little bit harder than

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Speaker 5: Jay Champ if I could.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 5: We asked our antik Implorian podcast listeners today when they

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Speaker 5: think you will make the first defense if you're undisputed

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Speaker 5: UFC title. Forty two percent said UFC three ten, December

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Speaker 5: seventh in Vegas. Twenty seven percent think UFC three eleven

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Speaker 5: in January, and then you know, February and then November

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Speaker 5: followed thereafter. So December January, do you think those are

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Speaker 5: the most likely spots for you? And is February longer

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Speaker 5: than maybe you would like to wait?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean, like you said, it's whatever the UFC puts

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Speaker 7: it as. Because I'm a guy that likes to stay active.

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Speaker 7: I did not like shot got put Oh man, you

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Speaker 7: just did you forget? You waited fourteen months for your

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Speaker 7: last fight. I'm like, but I had a Number Our

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Speaker 7: contender fight with Gilbert Burns and then I got skipped

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Speaker 7: over and they gave it to Kobe who didn't earn it,

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Speaker 7: and then I still had to Wayne as a backup

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Speaker 7: doing nothing. So yeah, I mean I would like to

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Speaker 7: fight soon. So December and January those dates are wide

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Speaker 7: open for me. But whatever the obviously, even with this

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Speaker 7: forever taking all the paper view main events, so.

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Speaker 4: Right for air stop fighting, maybe they'll get they'll get

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you about Madison Square Garden November sixteenth,

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Speaker 5: know the inner workings or the internal metrics. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if Balow Muhammad versus Rockmanov is a bigger fight

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Speaker 5: And I know Ken flows sick in the asking him

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm afraid to talk. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: You sound amazing?

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Speaker 3: Really, let's fucking go, guys. That's all I want to know,

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Speaker 5: The seriously, well, I'm here to I'm here to help

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Speaker 5: Pretty good? Pretty good? You you sound so good, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like we always talked about. But my thing always was

435
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 3: homegrown talent. That's it. I mean, if you could, if

436
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 3: you could match that, I'm not poaching guys. I'm not

437
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: taking guys that had a ten andzer record in bringing

438
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: them over. Just for me, that wasn't even that wouldn't

439
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,719
Speaker 3: be fun. But to watch guys from your own neighborhood

440
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 3: that went to the same schooling system that grew up

441
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: on Long Island. I'm holding to that and I'm proud

442
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 3: of it, and I could care where I stand with anything,

443
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 3: but that's what makes me tick. That's what I love.

444
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: I love to see these guys successful and if somebody

445
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 3: could match that with the homegrown talent, I'm all in.

446
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 5: Kenny Farasa Hobby TriStar MMA one of the greats was

447
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 5: probably the elite MMA coach closest to your front door

448
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 5: when you were in your prime. But what Ray's trying

449
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 5: to do here, man across all these different eras and

450
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 5: I didn't even think of the homegrown component is pretty special.

451
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 6: Well, well, what I was thinking about.

452
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: It's one thing, and it's not easy, right to develop

453
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: a champion, even if they are coming, you know, and

454
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: they are ten and zero or whatever, coming from some

455
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: other place.

456
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 6: However, it is yet.

457
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: Another thing to get a guy who is just starting

458
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 1: or has zero fights or has one fight and is

459
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: beginning their MMA journey and to bring them from that

460
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: all the way to a championship is something that is

461
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: extremely rare, and Ray has done that more than a

462
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: few times.

463
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 6: So I mean the proof is of the putting.

464
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: That is a testament to his methodology, his training, the

465
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: cohesiveness of the team, and uh, you know that's legendary

466
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: for sure.

467
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean all three of those guys had their

468
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: first pro fight with me, you know what I'm saying,

469
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: which is pretty crazy. So uh and I don't you know,

470
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to leave at Aya Quinta because he

471
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 3: did fight for the title. So even though we didn't

472
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: win it, you know, he took that fight on short notice,

473
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: gavee could be a nice little run for his money.

474
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 3: And I hold that. I hold that in the same regard.

475
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 3: You know. So it was really four guys they got

476
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: to fight for the title, three guys wanted. Yeah, one

477
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: guy went up the best, probably pound profound. He's going

478
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: to go down, as you know, undefeated. And I take

479
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: a lot of pride in that. I always like to

480
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: stick that in Forral because that's a that is that,

481
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: like Kabeef said, he is a gangster. You know, he

482
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 3: fought through injuries. You know, you guys. The other thing

483
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: is you guys don't really know what these guys went

484
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: through to get there. Like Wideman, I don't know if

485
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 3: the guy was ever healthy, you know, but I remember

486
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: what they used to tell you if a healthy Wideman

487
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: is gonna win, you know, but you know, thirty surgeries,

488
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: it's hard to stay healthy. So, uh, you know, with

489
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: all with all those guys, that was was great. And

490
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: think of the guys they beat, right, you know, I

491
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: mean Sarah beating GSP, Wideman beating silver Al, Joe goes

492
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: on a great tear. Uh you know, Pedion at the

493
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: time was really really really good and uh you know,

494
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: the sahudos, the Dilla shures, and it's it's it's good,

495
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: it's a it's a great feeling. I'm glad, well, you know,

496
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad we accomplished what we accomplished because

497
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 3: we got to take this team in another direction now.

498
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: But uh, you know, I think COVID really did a

499
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: good job of splitting everything up. And once you you

500
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: lose that unity, it's it's tough. You know, you got

501
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: to go back to it like a rebuilding stage because

502
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: you know, when you had you know, wide mean, Sarah,

503
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: I equip the Morob al Joe. It just keeps going,

504
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: you know, like all in the same room. That was

505
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: you know that the team really governed itself. You know,

506
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: I don't know how I was to say it. I

507
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: was just there is maybe a conduit to certain things.

508
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: But I don't even want to take credit. But you know,

509
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: that room at the time, I'll say it is unmatched

510
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: in my point in my point of view, and it

511
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: was like again, it was all guys from the same neighborhood,

512
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 3: you know, with the exclusion of Morob.

513
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 5: You know, well, largely it's been a forgettable last fifteen

514
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 5: years or so for the New York sports franchises. So

515
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 5: it's nice that uh, Sarah Longo and Longo why I'm

516
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 5: at MMA have carried the torch and proved some championships.

517
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 5: And by the way, these are the favorites on my

518
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 5: phone you can't see, but Ray long was right there

519
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 5: between Home and mom Joma, So Ray's still in the favorites.

520
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 5: There a few other things that I'd like to get

521
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 5: to and then Ken Flo and Jay can chime in

522
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 5: if I could so in terms of the sphere, right right,

523
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 5: And I'm sure you don't have any great answer for

524
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 5: this question, But we just talked to Balah Muhammad, the

525
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 5: UFC welsweare champion who will be in the corner of

526
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 5: ignasco Bot Monday's Oh Not Special UFC show September fourteenth.

527
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 5: What are your expectations for how the visuals and the

528
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 5: aesthetic might play some sort of role. I mean, it

529
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 5: seems like you're smirking, so you've at least given it

530
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: some thought.

531
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: No, oh no, I'm very excited because I all I

532
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: could do is go by what I hear, and I

533
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: hear it. It's an experience, So how it was going

534
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: to play into the fight. I would think a guy

535
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: like Morob, it's going to really lift him up and

536
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: he's going to know it's a special moment. Not that

537
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: he needs that because he's coming in guns blazing either way.

538
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: But I'm really excited, you know what I mean? And

539
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: I tell you and I thought at UFC three hundred

540
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: was probably the best event I was ever at. You know,

541
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 3: we talked about it on the show, just the ambiance

542
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: and all the champions that were on stage, and they

543
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: brought it like everybody. There wasn't just like five people,

544
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: it was the whole fucking card. So I'm I'm really

545
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to get too excited because I don't

546
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 3: want to be let down, you know what I mean.

547
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 3: But I'm here, and you know, I'm hearing some good

548
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: stuff from some people you're close to too.

549
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 5: John, But sounds like it's all off the record.

550
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, off the record. Okay, it's good, really good. I'm

551
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: hearing all things.

552
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 5: Maybe if we reignite our phone relationship, you can share.

553
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I will do that. I'll do that.

554
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 5: I have not seen anything resembling a TV format. I

555
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: will tell you, Ken flu my desire to wait until

556
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 5: Saturday to go into the Sphere is not going to

557
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 5: happen because we have rehearsals and things like that. But

558
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: as you were, Ken Plow, that's awesome.

559
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: Listen.

560
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 6: So people love to say a fight is just a fight,

561
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 6: and it is largely it is.

562
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: However, the week before, especially a show like this, being

563
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: at the Sphere, with all this pageantry, all this kind

564
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: of tech that's going to be put into it, it's

565
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: going to be different. And you having been like been

566
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: a part of so many different championship fights, and with

567
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Marob this being his first one, of course, is there

568
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: something that you tell him in preparation for this. I

569
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: guess on a on a mental or emotional level, that's

570
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: going to be different than.

571
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 6: Some other fights.

572
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: You just let him do what he does, or is

573
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: this one different? You go, hey, Morob, you gotta be

574
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: prepared for this, this and that.

575
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: You know most of these things. Kenny, he's he's really

576
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: a grounded guy, so he's gonna know exactly. But yeah,

577
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: I think the conversation has to be because you don't

578
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: know which way they're going to pull you. I remember

579
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 3: back in the day, like Sarah would just like the

580
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: two days before a fight, a day before, I'm not

581
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: doing the interview, like you know, like I got to focus,

582
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: you know, so you got to remember they're building the

583
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: brand at the time. They're dragging you here, they're dragging

584
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: you there. He would come to a point and go,

585
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. He would just say no. And

586
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: that's almost where I'm feeling with this, like this might

587
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: be so different that I want they want to make

588
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: it so perfect, and from what you're hearing, a million

589
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: dollars just to do a run through, they're going to

590
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 3: be crazy. Those people like if you're you know, bottom

591
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: line oriented and you want to make this thing perfect

592
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: and you're in an environment where that might not be easy.

593
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: I am a little worried about that, but hopefully we'll

594
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: navigate through that. And the only thing I could say

595
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: that is everybody's gonna have to deal with so it

596
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: will be the same pressure. So you know, Morob's definitely, definitely, definitely,

597
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: definitely a guy that if he can't control it, he's

598
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: not going to buy into it. He's only going to

599
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: concentrate on what he can control. And I think for

600
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: that night, it'll be himself and just mentally staying ready

601
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: because I do expect some crazy stuff coming out of there,

602
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: just based on what I'm hearing. But like again, it's

603
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: it's new to everybody, so everybody will be in the

604
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: same spot.

605
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 5: So Ray, Morob's obviously shown a chin in spots and

606
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 5: definitely been cracked sort of early at So what are

607
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: you laughing at? Ray?

608
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: I gotta know, like.

609
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 5: Laughing.

610
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: No, it's it's it's a laugh of I'm agreeing with them,

611
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, it's I'm happy, it's

612
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: not a I'm not lifting at him.

613
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, maybe I'm on a little delay. It's just

614
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: you started talking and no, I'm.

615
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm happy to hear Jason's voice.

616
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: That's yes. So this motherfucker got I remember my question. No,

617
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: So you know, you certainly talk to those that like

618
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: O'Malley in the fight and they'll tell you all Rob's

619
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 5: been cracked by other guys and recovered. He ain't gonna

620
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 5: recover when O'Malley cracks him early. So I mean, do

621
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: you do you discuss that your thoughts on that.

622
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going to tell you some He's gonna have

623
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: to eat some punches to win this fight, period, that's it.

624
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: I mean, O'Malley is a sharp shoot. If you go

625
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: in there thinking you're not getting hit or you're just

626
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: going to do this or do that, I think that's

627
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: a huge mistake. You know, before the Mall and the

628
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: RaSE fight, they told him, Hey, if I tell you

629
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: how many times they worked on getting underneath the left

630
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: hook with him, and that's exactly the punch he got

631
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: hit with. But before the lead up to the fighter, Morob,

632
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: you're gonna get hit the guys, you know, he hits hard,

633
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: and I said, you're gonna have to walk through fire

634
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: at some point in this fight, and that's exactly what

635
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: he did. So it's gonna be kind of the same thing.

636
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to eat some shots. And I think,

637
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: you know, as long as you're ready for you know, Kenny,

638
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: It's like it's I'm not telling saying anything new, but

639
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: it's the shot you don't see. Like, when you see

640
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: a shot, even if it's hard, you could deal with it,

641
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Or at least I feel

642
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: like that, you know. But the shot that you run

643
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: into or you get caught out of place, that's the

644
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 3: shot that's going to put your lights out. So I

645
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: think Morob knows what he's up against. I think O'Malley's

646
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: really good. I don't think O'Malley's ever faced anybody with

647
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: the pressure of Morob, and I don't think Morob's bought

648
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: anybody with the length and the accuracy and the power

649
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: of O'Malley. So you know, who controls the range will

650
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: win that fight.

651
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Speaker 5: Go minute Every week on the Anakimploring podcast. You can

652
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 5: follow this man at Ray Longo MMA The Ray Longo Minute.

653
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Speaker 5: It is presented by Draft Kings. Stay tuned because you'll

654
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 5: hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer

655
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 5: throughout the show. DraftKings the crown is yours. Have you

656
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: had any interaction with Tim Welch over the years.

657
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to say absolutely no. I might have set

658
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: a load to him once, but it seems like a

659
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: pretty once to keep to himself type of guy. But

660
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: I really don't know him, so but I think I

661
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: said a load to him maybe, And I think in

662
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: the Saudi Arabia, why now wouldad be when we were there?

663
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: So no love lost necessarily between him and Morob Dwalash Willie.

664
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Speaker 5: But one thing we've never asked you about it, and

665
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 5: I didn't intend to today, so I apologize for you

666
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: on the spot. But when al Jamin Sterling was fighting

667
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: Sean O'Malley, I guess Tim Welch was caught on a

668
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 5: microphone screaming some sort of imperative to Algio that maybe

669
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: he followed and then he got knocked out. Do you

670
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: did that ever cross your wake.

671
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: Across my way? I mean, if you do, you think

672
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: al Joe could hear what he was saying? Is that

673
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: is that the question?

674
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: Because yeah, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. But

675
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: much has been made. I think of the fact that, yes,

676
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 5: that maybe Tim Welch in a moment and again I

677
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: don't know the whole story, but in a moment maybe

678
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: lacking sportsmanship. According to some right, was trying to coach

679
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: Aljo into the wrong and maybe Cody could chase it,

680
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: but almost like like he said, al Joe go or something,

681
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: and then he shot and oh I see that.

682
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh I know, I think I saw that. Yeah, I'm

683
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: just saying, look, if it was at the Apex, I

684
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: would say, you know, yeah, the chances of something. But

685
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 3: at the Garden, you're not here, and uh, you know

686
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: most of the guys say they just focus in on

687
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: one voice, and I don't. I don't if you I'm

688
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: saying that had no nothing to do with anything, right,

689
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: But you know that the Garden was loud. Man, the Apex,

690
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, that's what you do as a coach. You

691
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: fuck around like that. That's cool, that's good.

692
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.

693
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

694
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: Uh, all right, a couple more things before we get

695
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: you on out of here. And again, why.

696
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 6: No I think it's cool.

697
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Well, if seeing it from like the perspective of like

698
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: that's a part of the game, right, it's just on

699
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: the beast.

700
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: And if you think nobody else is doing that, right,

701
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: you're crazy.

702
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 6: So I mean, I did not hear that story though,

703
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 6: that that's that's off.

704
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: Hat's off to him, though.

705
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I wouldn't put it past Keith Florian.

706
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: Definitely we'll do that. He's definitely doing that.

707
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: I did a podcast recently where I did a sixty

708
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 5: second rant on Keith Florian, and I'm gonna cut it

709
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 5: and send it to the Florian brothers.

710
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: And that's fun.

711
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 5: I didn't have to see see Edgar Florian. All right, Ray,

712
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 5: you recently said on the Antica Florian podcast, and I

713
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: quote drinks DUPLESSI might actually be my new favorite fire

714
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: Still your favorite dog is Lucky? Is that accurate? Lucky

715
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: still alive?

716
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: Lucky still around right, So to.

717
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 5: Save Lucky's life, potentially, oh boy, you get to send

718
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 5: one middle weight into the octagon to beat your favorite

719
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 5: fighter drinkis Dupless. It cannot be Chris Widman, Okay, Sean Strickland,

720
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: Israel Atasanya, Robert Whittaker, Kamzat Chimayev, or Alex Paeda who

721
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 5: has said he's going back down. So I'm gonna give

722
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: you five middle weights and to save Lucky's life, you

723
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: gotta pick one to go in and beat Dupless. So

724
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: of these five. Who has the best chance to beat

725
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 5: still Knox, Strickland, Autasanya Whittaker, Chimayev or Alex padatah Man.

726
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: That's tough, I mean the fact. I mean, look, my

727
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 3: first gut feeling is uh uh Poeton. But the wrestling

728
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: component scares me a little bit. So I'm gonna go

729
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: with Strickland because that was a close fight. Maybe even

730
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: won that fight. Yeah, so you know, he seems like

731
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 3: he wasn't getting taken down. He could keep it standing

732
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: where he likes it. He's just got to be throw

733
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: a little more combos and they think he wins that

734
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: fight if he didn't win the first one. That was

735
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: a close fight, right, If I'm not mistaken split decision, anybody.

736
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 6: I don't remember was split. It might have been split.

737
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 5: Sorry. Cody just populated the chat with a final note

738
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 5: on that Tim Welch stuff. The final response in the

739
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 5: banter was from Al Joe. He said, you talked tell

740
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: of shit during my fight with Sean. The ref had

741
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: to tell you to shut the fuck up multiple times.

742
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: I wanted to slap you in between rounds, and I

743
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: regret not taking the fine for that. You should know

744
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 5: better as a former fighter, and a current coach. You

745
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: constantly talk shit about Morob, Let Sean talk shit. You

746
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: don't need to be chiming in on the shit talk

747
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: unless you want the problems as well. It's that simple, bro,

748
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 5: So obviously, and it was a split decision, by the way,

749
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, obviously al Joe was put off by whatever

750
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: was going on there, right, I just want to get

751
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: that out there.

752
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: Right, he's talking about the beef with Welch and whatever

753
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: beef Morob and Welchat.

754
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 5: No, that quote says during my fight with Sean, ref

755
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: had to tell you to shut the fuck upultiple times.

756
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: Well, the ref's I'm going to tell you to shut

757
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: up during the round, no matter what you're screaming. That's

758
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: never happened to me, and I've screamed a lot of shit.

759
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: So I think he's talking about all the other bullshit

760
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: leading up to it, and you know, maybe before the

761
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: things start. I think, I don't know. I'd have to

762
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 3: ask them, but yeah, I don't think the refs. There's

763
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: no way. Look the ref. I can't I can't see that, right,

764
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: I can't see the ref telling you. Who the hell

765
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: is the reftelling to shut up? I mean the Commission,

766
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: like if you start banging on the cage or standing up,

767
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: they'll sit you down and tell you you can't do

768
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: that or stuff like that.

769
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 5: But we do have referees and judges that listen to

770
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 5: this program. And part of the reason why I actually

771
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 5: brought up the coaches to maybe corner four UFC champions

772
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 5: is hoping that somebody from our great listenership will actually

773
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 5: be able to come up with that answer, because I

774
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 5: couldn't this morning. But yeah, maybe Jason Herzo can chime

775
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 5: in a little bit, because I don't know if you

776
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: are within your right. I'm sure you are, but I'm

777
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: not so sure right to yell slash coach the other fighter.

778
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess you can say all's fair

779
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 5: in love and war? Is that what they? I don't know, Oh,

780
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 5: I don't.

781
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm cool with it as a coach.

782
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 5: If they yeah, we can tell you're cool with it.

783
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 5: Was not on my agenda today, by the.

784
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: Way, No, No, that's all good. Yeah, I mean there's

785
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: a lot of ship talking that's going on between I think, uh,

786
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: I think one time when Matt was fighting Parisi and

787
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: Henzo said something I'm not even sure. I'm not really

788
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: sure it is, but it might have been Henzo said

789
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: something and uh, Parisian told me to go fuck myself,

790
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 3: you know, in front of the guy. We started bantering back,

791
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: and we do that all the time.

792
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ray, Ray asked his fighter to punch a hole

793
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 6: through his chest.

794
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: It okay, Oh so it's it's almost like John, how

795
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: about this, Like when the guy's in front of you

796
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: and your guy's on top and you're tell him he's

797
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: getting tired. Look he's gonna quit. You know, that's walking

798
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: ship right, Yeah, you're right. Nobody's ever stopping you for

799
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: that impossible.

800
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 5: Fair all right, that'll be the final note on that. Well,

801
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 5: I am excited to see you in a little bit.

802
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: Hopefully we can get you to the Penthouse to say

803
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: hello to Big Ron, Pelgrino and Jay and everybody else.

804
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 5: Ken Flow is not going to be there unfortunately.

805
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 6: What I know, I know, I know, Ray.

806
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: Are you gonna get a haircut before?

807
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: I hope?

808
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: So?

809
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: So like when you look in the mirror this morning,

810
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 5: Have you looked at the mirror this morning?

811
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: Or no, yes they did the coffee or note I

812
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: puld my hair before all over the place.

813
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm curious though, Like, I think some

814
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 5: men look in the mirror and like they don't even

815
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 5: think about their hair. You know, Kenny thinks about his hair,

816
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 5: Jason thinks about his hair. I shapn't and Ray John's

817
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 5: thinking about his bracelets. He's got a few bracelets on

818
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 5: his vest. Like, right, clean up, top, I got my bracelets.

819
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm looking at my hair, my being

820
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: obsessed with it, like what I look like? Definitely bingo bingo.

821
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: Yeah you're not. You don't lead the league in vanity,

822
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 5: unlike some people on this program. Hey, Jay, you're wearing

823
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: your new chain. Why do you show everybody? Jay, you're

824
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 5: wearing your new chain? J Yeah, my boss, my boss.

825
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 5: They're good care of me, right, I think I put

826
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 5: I think I I think I pull it off better. Uh,

827
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 5: you know inside the T shirt, you know, but yeah,

828
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 5: leave it out for the rest of the show.

829
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: Okay, is a gold chain. I can't see it from here.

830
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Gold Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty good.

831
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the twenty two inches. We appreciate you, Johnny.

832
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: We appreciate you. But that's you know, taking good for me.

833
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.

834
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 6: I love the brothers, go back.

835
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 5: It's not my style wearing it out, bro like, that's

836
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 5: that might be your style. Oh it's all love.

837
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

838
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: People message right like, man, John hates Jason like right

839
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 5: like okay, wait.

840
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 3: Hold on, so you know what the problem is Jason.

841
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: People message that he hates everybody. At this point, he's

842
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 3: a loving guy.

843
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 5: I don't know, right, he's been a dick the last

844
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 5: couple of weeks, but hopefully he's that page. I think

845
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: exactly exactly. He can take it out on you a

846
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: little bit.

847
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: Well.

848
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 5: I think Kenny has an acute understanding of me. I

849
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: think I am perpetually misunderstood, certainly by some of those

850
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 5: who choose to comment on YouTube and defensive ray long ago.

851
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 5: But I am also driving this show. And yes, in

852
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 5: my life I have been told I'm a little bit

853
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: too serious at times. At other times I am too

854
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: much the other way. But we need you, we do today.

855
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 5: I have sponsors to read and things that I have.

856
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: We need for this, We need you John for that.

857
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: And just like you're saying with the coaching, the coaches

858
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: talking just like us bantering, it's it's normal.

859
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 6: It's normal to me.

860
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 3: I don't know what's done.

861
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 5: But no, but at one point in the next few weeks.

862
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: I'm going to show up in an opposite manner in

863
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: terms of the prep. For example, I'm not going to

864
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 5: prep the Ray Longo minute. I spent twenty five minutes

865
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 5: going through coaches today, right to try to have a conversation. Well,

866
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 5: maybe we don't have UFC fights to recap, right, And

867
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 5: you know, the only other thing I have on my

868
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 5: list is Aljamaine Sterling and mobsar Ivloyev. Right, but I

869
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 5: could sit down here and we could just fucking shoot

870
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: the breeze. But uh, you know, I think I.

871
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 3: Speak to the whole crew. We appreciate you, John.

872
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: Well, Hey, the most basic human need is to be appreciated.

873
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 5: Do you have anything for us on Al Joe and

874
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 5: mobsar Ivloyev or Chris Wiman against Eric Anders For me

875
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 5: and Kenny, like, Ken Flow versus Ivloyev at one hundred

876
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: and forty five pounds is as good as it gets,

877
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: It's absolutely fascinating. But for a striking coach like yourself,

878
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: I am curious. You know what you think of a

879
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 5: matchup that forecasts maybe as a grappler's delight, maybe not.

880
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking Al Joe and Moza, right, Yeah, I

881
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: really looking. I think it's a great matchup for al Joe.

882
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: Believe it or that. I really do not, not that

883
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying anything, but I gave him my thoughts on

884
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: what a net what I would think is the easiest

885
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: path of vic there he is, Yeah, and uh, we'll

886
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: see what happens. But uh, he was in he was

887
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: sparring at six point thirty this morning. He sent me

888
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: to sparring. I go.

889
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

890
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: He said he didn't want to wake me. Oh no, no,

891
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: he said I said something. He said he was waiting

892
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: for me, but he think it's not waiting for you.

893
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: What is that going down?

894
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: By the way, October fifth week after Paris with Provola,

895
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: so crazy schedule coming up, and I'm in Vegas for

896
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 3: a week because I don't think I could say anything yet,

897
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: but I might have another guy on the Contender series.

898
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: I'm going to just stay in vaged heh.

899
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: Well, I can't tell you why I'm yes, but I

900
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 5: am staying in Vegas until Tuesday or Wednesday. So maybe

901
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: we could break some breadth oh or some man.

902
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: That's great. Oh no, we're definitely hanging for sure.

903
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: You want to get a tattoo? No, okay, Cody's telling me, Yeah,

904
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: my book is going to be called Perpetually Misunderstood, and

905
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: maybe we'll do a sub title like perpetually Misunderstood Custody

906
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 5: battles in My life on the Road with the UFS.

907
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 5: A wow, love it, Hey, Ray, We love you. Thanks

908
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 5: for elevating all the ships in the sea. Love you more, John,

909
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: and I'll call you later this week.

910
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: We have a lot of let's do that for sure,

911
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 3: and uh.

912
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: Thanks for all your contributions. We'll see you in about

913
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 5: ten days and we'll talk to you next Monday.

914
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: Right right, we're out of here.

915
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 5: Take it easy, guys, Ray Long a minute every week

916
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 5: here on the Anak and Florian podcast. Well, Jay is

917
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: excited for more reasons than one. We are efforting to

918
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: move our studio out of my master bedroom into his

919
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: house so we can do a two shot details to

920
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 5: come on season three of our NFL podcast. But we're

921
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 5: going to rifle right back out to the guest line

922
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 5: right now. And you knew that a man of this

923
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: caliber was going to be early or a few minutes

924
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 5: close to the call time and looking good with the

925
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: fresh shave. I got an intro. Were you my friend?

926
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: It feels weird writing out an intro for my friend,

927
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna do it anyway. A man who actually

928
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 5: has kenflow knows Grace the second or third episode of

929
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 5: this program and suggested it should be the Florida an

930
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Speaker 5: Antek podcast. Back in twenty fifteen, legendary combat sports journalist

931
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: and I interviewed him for the first time on the

932
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Speaker 5: Mouthpiece Boxing Show back in two thousand and three, twenty

933
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 5: one years ago. Owner proprietor of Kevinioli dot com Kevin

934
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: Ioli is with us KI. Great to see you this morning.

935
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: How we feeling?

936
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: I was really hoping you weren't going to bring me

937
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: on early because all that talk about hair was Ray

938
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: Longo and and Kenny was getting me well.

939
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 5: Right, looks a little bit unkemped. You look clean and mean,

940
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 5: So how we do him? When was the last time

941
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 5: you played golf? We fitting in any recreation? I know

942
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: you're hitting the new website pretty hard. Yeah I have.

943
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: I actually haven't played for a little bit. I went

944
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: out with Abel Sanchez, Triple G's former trainer of six

945
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: weeks or so ago, and it was like only one

946
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen OWT. That was genius of us to

947
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: go out at I want to say, in the morning

948
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: when it was just starting to get hot. But you know, so,

949
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: you know, I surprised myself with how I played. You know,

950
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 2: I'm I'm never going to be the long drive winner,

951
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: but I was keeping it in the fairway and putting

952
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: some balls in the hole every now and then.

953
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: So recently, fairly recently, you branched out on your own

954
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: Keviniolei dot com, and it's been great to sort of

955
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 5: see you control the content. You know, I love the logo.

956
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: Your rolodex obviously runs deep. So how has that been

957
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 5: like sort of initially setting off on that venture and

958
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 5: how has the response been over last year? So, you know,

959
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: I was.

960
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: Always worried in my job when I was working for Yahoo.

961
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: You know, I thought what was happening with the media business.

962
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Unbelievably talented people were getting laid off and I was

963
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: always like, oh my god. And I know I wasn't

964
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: covering the NFL or the NBA, the two big sports.

965
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: So you know, I was always worried John that, hey,

966
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: what's going to happen to me? And how bad is

967
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: it going to be if that ever happens to me?

968
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: And I got laid off on December first, and in

969
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 2: the moment I got laid off with about fifty or

970
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 2: sixty other people, we were on a Google meet call,

971
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: and I mean, you tell me, it was like a

972
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: drive by layoff. I mean literally, we're on this thing

973
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: and the guy gets on there and he tells us basically,

974
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 2: you know, everybody who's on this call is being laid

975
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: off as of today. And I was freaked out for

976
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: like about twenty minutes, and then I started thinking about

977
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: it and I said, I'm actually way better off. My

978
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: phone started bringing about an hour after I posted on

979
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: Twitter that I was laid off, and I had job offers.

980
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: I had you know, people calling, hey, whatever help I

981
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: can be, and I finally realized, I said, hey, you

982
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: know what, now I can control the narrative. If my

983
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: website sucks, it's because of me, it's not because everybody else.

984
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 2: And they didn't let me do something. And so I said,

985
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 2: I want to put it on my shoulders and I

986
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: want to kind of build it in my image and

987
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: what I think it should be. And I'm still tweaking it,

988
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: but my traffic has really been going up. My YouTube

989
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: channel has been growing. Yeah, you know, I'm going to

990
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: keep working on all that, but I'm really happy where

991
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm at right now.

992
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: Kevin.

993
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: I was just on your website and you had a

994
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: great article on Francis and Ganu. Who is going to

995
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: be taken on hen and Fajeda in a big heavyweight fight.

996
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: It's most likely a study in futility, because it's rare

997
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: that we have someone coming off of such a horrible

998
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: familial loss, right and then having to take a fight,

999
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: and then of course coming off of.

1000
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 6: A knockout loss. But how do you think he's going

1001
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 6: to come back?

1002
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: And is there any other fighter that you can kind

1003
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: of relate his story to that has come back and

1004
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: triumphed amongst such hard I guess such hardship.

1005
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant is the only fighter, off the top of

1006
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: my head that I can think of, you know, former

1007
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: super middleweight boxing champion lost his daughter and came back

1008
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: not long after in won a world title. Kenny, But

1009
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: it's really really hard, you know, and you know, he's

1010
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 2: coming off a pretty vicious knockout in March to Anthony Joshua.

1011
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: He got dropped three times and he was getting you know,

1012
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't like you know, he was taking fast, you know,

1013
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: easy punchers where you know, it was just volume the stuff.

1014
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean, he was getting clubbed and you know, you

1015
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: know it was like you know, hitting a seal over

1016
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: the head with a billy club. I mean, it was

1017
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: just you know, he was just there to be be pummeled.

1018
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: That takes time to come overcome that number one. First

1019
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: of all, it was his first knockout. Mentally, it takes time.

1020
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 2: Then just the physical let your let your brain hero.

1021
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: After all that is going on, and now you talk

1022
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: on top of that, the unbelievable tragedy of losing your

1023
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: infant son. I mean, what kind of mental shape are

1024
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: they going to be in? You know, if you look

1025
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: at the fight. I mean, Fajita has gotten I wrote

1026
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: last night actually a lot about the the no contests

1027
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: that the Hats had, but he's had three no contests

1028
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: that were actually losses that got turned into wins, you know,

1029
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: by you know, fortuitous circumstances. You know, two of the

1030
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: guys cheated and you know you can't you know, you

1031
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: can't blame him for that. But still, I mean he

1032
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: lost in those two fights sixteen of the eighteen scored rounds.

1033
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: So you know, you would say Francis should be a

1034
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: very solid favorite and should win this fight. But when

1035
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: I look at it, I go, I know, if a

1036
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: Hayden knows this is his moment, this is everything to him,

1037
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: it's just another guy to Francis. And on top of that,

1038
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: Francis coming off a the knockout loss and be this

1039
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: incomprehensible tragedy that you know, how does anybody handle that?

1040
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: You can't? And so he's just a wild card going

1041
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: into that fight.

1042
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: And Kevin, you know, with this huge card coming up

1043
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: with this sphere, do you think this is going to

1044
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: be a one and done? Do you think the UFC

1045
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: would do something like this and maybe never go back again,

1046
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: because it seems like it's going to be an insane card,

1047
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: an event.

1048
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not say one and done, but I

1049
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: don't think we're going to see it every year. I

1050
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: think it's going to be a special event, you know,

1051
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: like every couple of years if they get the the

1052
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: right fights and they can line it up correctly, Right,

1053
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 2: who's going to be the future Connor McGregor, Right, whoever

1054
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: that person is. You know, maybe down the road they'll say, hey,

1055
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: let's put that person at the Sphere and let's have

1056
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: him or her, you know, fighting the sphere and have

1057
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: a big card there. But you know, Dana told us

1058
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: last week after the Contender Series, the Memorable Contender Series

1059
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: press conference that we had, that it was they were

1060
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: twenty one million dollars into this right now, and so

1061
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: that you're not going to put on a lot of

1062
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: shows where the production costs and renting the arena alone

1063
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 2: is twenty one million dollars.

1064
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 5: So the heavyweights, and I believe you were the journalists

1065
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: who was asking Dana White about the heavyweights. And if

1066
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 5: you have written about this, Ki, I apologize. Kevin. I

1067
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: only joined us live on the ANAKM Flooring podcast. So

1068
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 5: my thesis statement largely has been what is a promotion

1069
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 5: to do in this most unique circumstance. In the red

1070
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 5: corner you have the consensus greatest fighter of all time,

1071
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 5: and in the blue corner you have on paper the

1072
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 5: most accomplished UFC heavyweight of all time. So when John

1073
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: tears his pack and then you have the emergence of

1074
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 5: Tom aspinall so keV like hopefully November sixteenth, it shall

1075
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 5: be done. But I'm not sure the UFC could have

1076
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 5: done anything unless John wanted to like graciously vacate, and

1077
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 5: he might have been prevented promotionally from doing so well.

1078
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 2: I think, you know. My take on this, John would

1079
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: be this. You know, if they were so committed to

1080
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: fighting John versus Steve Pay, then strip John of the title.

1081
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 2: And because Steve Bay does you know, And I hate

1082
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: to say this because it sounds like I'm bashing Steep Pay,

1083
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: and I am not bashing Steve Bay, but he does

1084
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: not deserve at this moment in time to fight for

1085
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: a world title. He has not had a win in

1086
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: over four years. It's going to be four years and

1087
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: three months. But since he had to win, he hasn't

1088
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: had a fight in over three years. So God bless

1089
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: him for the great resume that he has. Steve by

1090
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: miaciic does not deserve a championship shot. So I understand

1091
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: why John Jones wanted to fight him, because Steve a

1092
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: has that reputation as the greatest heavyweight of all time

1093
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: and John wants to steal that and elevate himself to

1094
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: not only the greatest light heavyweight of all time, the

1095
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: greatest fighter of all time, but the greatest heavyweight of

1096
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: all time. I get that, but that should be a

1097
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: non title fight. Tom Aspinall is doing it in the ring.

1098
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: Tom Aspinall is beating the best fighters in the world

1099
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: and beating them in fifty seconds, in a minute, in

1100
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: thirteen seconds. Aspinall deserves the shot. And the reason that

1101
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 2: the UFC grew so fast and so big and surpassed

1102
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 2: boxing is because of the way they value the titles

1103
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: in boxing. We have all these you know, you know,

1104
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say bullshit. I don't know if I

1105
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: can say that on here, but we have all those

1106
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: BS titles and boxing that you know, super champion and

1107
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: this champion and that type of champion and that, and

1108
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: the value of the title is lost, right and the

1109
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: UFC that is largely not been the case. But you're

1110
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: risking that in this particular, giving John's inactivity, steep A's inactivity,

1111
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: and the fact that at least John's coming off a

1112
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: win over a credible heavyweight. But what has step A done?

1113
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, I'm glad you laid it out that way,

1114
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 5: and even for John, whom I love right UFC two

1115
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 5: to eighty five March of twenty twenty three, a long

1116
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: time ago. I just feel like step A signed the

1117
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 5: contract and the brushback from Team Miatchich would have been

1118
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: so strong. But I think you laid it out beautifully.

1119
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 5: So when you were at Yahoo, were you forced to

1120
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: make predictions for UFC pay per views or No? I

1121
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 5: did Keevin I only doesn't do anything he didn't want

1122
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 5: to do. But you did make predictions for pay per views?

1123
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that you know they I made the predictions.

1124
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: You know they wanted betting content, especially toward the end

1125
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: of my tenure there, So of course we.

1126
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: Did that because Kenny's been making picks on this podcast

1127
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 5: really since twenty fifteen, and even when we were doing

1128
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 5: MMA Live in two thousand and eight, he didn't like

1129
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 5: the fact that he had to be picking against his

1130
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: fellow lightweights and friends. But it's sort of an inconvenient

1131
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: truth of the business. So are you making picks on

1132
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 5: kevinioly dot com?

1133
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 7: Now?

1134
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 5: Are You're not doing that?

1135
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: I make them as I kind of feel strongly about shows,

1136
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 2: So I do have a betting tab up there, and

1137
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: I make predictions in there. But like you know, when

1138
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: I was doing it at y'allhood, there were some shows

1139
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: where I didn't really have a strong feeling one way

1140
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: or the other. Right, I go, yeah, I kind of

1141
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: lean toward this, but the number is so big, right

1142
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: that I don't want to lay that huge number. But

1143
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: I had to write a column, so I would do that.

1144
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: So now like if I feel, hey, there's really a

1145
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: lot of value. And then I also played that a

1146
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: second thing. There's sometimes there's fights on the under card.

1147
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: I say, hey, there's really good value here. I really

1148
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: like this, But how many people are going to read

1149
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: that if it's not John Jones in the headliner? Like

1150
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: you know, I did one on belall right when Belall

1151
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: fought Leon and my and my betting column said, you

1152
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: know when Bruce Buffer says, and new go to the

1153
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: window and cash. You know, I had picked the law

1154
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: to win the fight, and I had I put I

1155
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: laid out my reasons why I had a really strong

1156
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: feeling about Belaw in that fight, and so I wrote it.

1157
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: I didn't so much have a strong feeling in Izzy

1158
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 2: and Drick as an example, and so I didn't you know,

1159
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: I didn't do any peace.

1160
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 5: On that one real strong feeling about my boy, though

1161
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 5: I get it, MITA. So I just love your approach

1162
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: and I have admired you for so many years, and

1163
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 5: I really am proud of your new venture. I know

1164
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 5: in terms of the internal metrics, you have a much

1165
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 5: better finger on the pulse of you know, how big

1166
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 5: a superstar, say Shan O'Malley is versus Alex Padata Compared

1167
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 5: to me, I would submit to you that Alex Padata

1168
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 5: right now, the global superstar that he is, is the

1169
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 5: biggest star in the UFC. Sean O'Malley was on a

1170
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 5: loaded Miami fight card at UFC two ninety nine. He

1171
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 5: has set himself. He feels sort of upstaged by the

1172
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 5: venue here September fourteenth, So how do you quantify his

1173
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 5: relative star power right now compared to say Alex Padata?

1174
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 5: Is there a lot of Sonia and anybody else?

1175
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: I think when you look at the UFC, you know

1176
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: you had superstar Connor McGregor. Then you had at the

1177
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: next level down Ronda Rossy, GSP and Chuck Ladell. I

1178
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: think they were kind of just that next step down

1179
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: from him, and they and those four were in a

1180
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: class by themselves. And O'Malley is to me kind of

1181
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: trying to burst through to get to that you know,

1182
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: GSP Chuck Ladell level. He's not there yet, but I

1183
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: think if he comes out there and he blows away

1184
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: Morab at the sphere right uh and knocks Morab out

1185
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: or wins in spectacular fashion. I think he gets to

1186
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: that point.

1187
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 5: I really do.

1188
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: I think Sean O'Malley has that it factor. Like look

1189
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: when he was with the Arizona Cardinals last week and

1190
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: and the way the Cardinals the players reacted to him, right,

1191
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: you know you saw that with Connor McGregor and the

1192
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and and other. But I think you

1193
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: know you're saying, the other athletes recognize what O'Malley is.

1194
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 2: I think he's on the verge of getting there. You know,

1195
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 2: I think Pejeta is close to being there. But Pejeita

1196
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: is more a fight fans fighter than O'Malley, even though

1197
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 2: O'Malley is a great fighter. And the reason I say

1198
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: that is, you know, Pejeita's English is still not there.

1199
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 2: And I think to get to that next level and

1200
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: to win the American market over, you know, you've got

1201
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: to be out there where the public knows who you

1202
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 2: are and you can talk and and have a conversation

1203
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: with fans. He he doesn't have that yet. And it

1204
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: took Anderson Silva a while because of that, right, And

1205
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: I think Anderson, you know, Anderson got bigger toward the

1206
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: end of his run when he learned English and he

1207
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: didn't need ed Sores talking for him all the time,

1208
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 2: and Anderson could express himself, you know, on his own.

1209
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: And I think that's where Alex is right now. Alex

1210
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: is certainly as far as stars within the sport, he's

1211
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: at the top. But I think in terms of you know,

1212
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: reaching out to the you know, the common man and

1213
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 2: the man on the street, I think you know, O'Malley.

1214
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Is the guy Kevin Sorry, sorry, John, I was gonna ask, so,

1215
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: do you kind of see this as a sort of

1216
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: investment into the potential stardom of O'Malley here with this

1217
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: spear show?

1218
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 6: Is that kind of what you're saying.

1219
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: I think that they're giving him every opportunity to come

1220
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: the next star, right. It's it reminds me of the

1221
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: jose Aldo Color McGregor fight, Right, They did the world

1222
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: tour for that fight. And when did McGregor really get big?

1223
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: What was that that press conference in Dublin when he

1224
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: stole the belt and all though freaked out And I

1225
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: think that you know, everybody saw the video of that fight,

1226
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: and I heard that press conference and I think that's

1227
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: where people said, oh my god, this guy, I love him.

1228
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: You know, he had been scoring all these knockouts and everything,

1229
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: but that moment, you know, it was like you had

1230
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: the fighting ability and you had the personality all in one,

1231
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: and people loved him and they wanted to see it.

1232
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: And I think they're setting O'Malley up. That's why they

1233
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, you referenced the O'Malley on UFC two ninety nine,

1234
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: which you know that those cards that they had in

1235
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: a row two ninety eight, two ninety nine, three hundred

1236
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: were just spectacular cars. So O'Malley was on one of those.

1237
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: And I think they're setting him up and they're giving

1238
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: him the stage. Now if Morab wins the fight, right, like,

1239
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: Morab has a chance to become a good star, he's

1240
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: not going to be the transcendent star that outside. Even

1241
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: though Morab has a fantastic personality and you know, you

1242
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: know his his work on social media is incredible, that

1243
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: issue notwithstanding. But you know, I think, you know, O'Malley

1244
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: just has that factor where if he comes out and

1245
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: he does to Morab, what he you know, what he

1246
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: did to Cheetoh and what he did to Eddie Winland,

1247
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: and you know, and so many other people. I think,

1248
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, I think O'Malley is really going to be

1249
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: right there and be the next big star.

1250
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 5: Have you stepped foot inside Sphere?

1251
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: I am going today three hours over to see too well.

1252
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: Over to UFC. They have a Dana has a Sphere

1253
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: replica built, and so I'm going to walk through of

1254
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: the Sphere replica and at the UFC office today, So

1255
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: I will have a story on that coming up.

1256
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 5: All right, a couple more minutes here with Kevin Ioli

1257
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 5: and I do have some rapid fire questions on the

1258
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: way out. But in terms of strong leans or otherwise,

1259
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 5: Sean O'Malley as an underdog has some people raising eyebrows?

1260
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 5: Do you have any strong conviction on that fight?

1261
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: I like O'Malley. I've already came up, so like o'mellley,

1262
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: and I will write a bag next week.

1263
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So I didn't prepare you for this,

1264
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 5: so maybe you have thirty seconds on it. Maybe you don't.

1265
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 5: But I have been asked by a company and I'm

1266
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 5: doing this video later this week to come up with

1267
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 5: the three biggest sports moments in Las Vegas history, and

1268
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 5: I'm not sure there's a better resource I could have

1269
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 5: to ask than you. So certainly I feel like maybe

1270
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 5: the Vegas Golden Knights have to factor in there somewhere,

1271
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 5: but perhaps not given the rich history of combat sports.

1272
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 5: For me, it feels like I need a Manny Pacyao

1273
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 5: slot somewhere. But d La Hoya Mayweather was probably the

1274
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 5: biggest sporting event I ever covered. So when you think

1275
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 5: about Las Vegas, and I know I'm leaving out events

1276
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 5: that are bigger probably in your mind, where do I

1277
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 5: even begin? And can I call you later this week

1278
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 5: to you can?

1279
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: So, I would say, you know number one to me,

1280
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: no question about it, Tyson Holyfield, Right, the biggest fight,

1281
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: you know, just spectacular in all ways. You know, the

1282
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: Byte fight, and that was going into the fight. I

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Speaker 2: would have said that, John, not just because of the

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Speaker 2: bite and the infamous and everything that surrounded it, but

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Speaker 2: you know, then I would say the Golden Knights winning

1286
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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup and UNLV winning the national championship in basketball,

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Speaker 2: those would be the three. I mean, you can't underestimate

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety how big do you? Jerry Tartan as

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Speaker 2: UNLV rebels were to this town, right, Yeah, And because

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Speaker 2: there was no UFC at that time, you know, there

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Speaker 2: was no Golden Knights at that time, there were no raiders,

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Speaker 2: there was no A's coming, right, it was it was

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Speaker 2: U and LV rebels and that was it. And then

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Speaker 2: winning to me that those were the three movements.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like UFC one hundred and three hundred are not

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Speaker 5: even top ten.

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Speaker 2: No, I would say there, I would say I was

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Speaker 2: gonna UFC three hundred, especially to me John was. To me,

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Speaker 2: I was saying it would be like end that number

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Speaker 2: three fighting for number three, top five fighting for number

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Speaker 2: three UFC one hundred. I think maybe not because the

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Speaker 2: UFC itself wasn't as big then as it was at

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Speaker 2: UFC three hundred. But I think both of those fight cards,

1304
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Speaker 2: and we remember, you know, Dana White said he was

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Speaker 2: gonna if it didn't do a million, he was going

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Speaker 2: to base jump off Mendeley Bay after after UFC one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Right, Thankfully it did anything for Dala Hoya Mayweather in

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Speaker 5: that top ten or No.

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Speaker 2: I think I certainly think that has to be in there.

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Speaker 2: That was a huge fight that was there. May and Mayweather,

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Speaker 2: Pacio would have to be in and one other one

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Speaker 2: that I think you know that you have to put

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Speaker 2: in there because of the moment, and you'll remember this,

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Speaker 2: Matt Hughes and Frank Trigg, right that that was such

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Speaker 2: a huge fight. And I don't know that I until

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Speaker 2: maybe when Manny Pakiel made his walkout against against Floyd

1317
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Speaker 2: Mayweather that I heard a louder crowd at the MGM

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Speaker 2: Grant than when Matthews slammed Frank Trigg. Right when he

1319
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Speaker 2: carries him across the ring and he slams him, that

1320
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Speaker 2: place he erupted. And to me, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: will point to Shamrock and Tino Ortiz is the moment

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Speaker 2: that the MMA arrived as a mainstream sport in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Trigg and Hughes and that moment

1324
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Speaker 2: because people were so into that fight. Boom that place

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Speaker 2: the roof almost blew off.

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Speaker 5: Dude, I'm gonna tell the client to just give you

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Speaker 5: my fee and book you and you can tell them

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Speaker 5: the greatest moments in Las Vegas sports history. All Right,

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Speaker 5: a few rapid fire questions with the great Kevin Ioli

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Speaker 5: on the way out. Baseball regular season is winding down,

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Speaker 5: your Pittsburgh Pirates are in last place? Who wins the

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Speaker 5: World Series?

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Speaker 2: You know what, I think it's gonna be a tough

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Speaker 2: one here, but I'm gonna go ahead and say the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I don't I wonder about the pitching, but the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: just keep finding.

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Speaker 3: Ways to win.

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Speaker 5: Over under one and a half more pro Mma fights

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Speaker 5: for Francis and Gano under wow Wow, I love it.

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Speaker 5: And then best non combat sports event that you have

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Speaker 5: either attended as a fan or covered as a journalist

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Speaker 5: non combat sports though.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what, because it it was recent,

1344
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Speaker 2: but it was so much fun that Game five of

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Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup in twenty twenty three. I was there

1346
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Speaker 2: for when the Golden Knights hoisted the chalice and oh

1347
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Speaker 2: my god. You know, I was at the Super Bowl

1348
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Speaker 2: when the Steelers won in Pasadena super Bowl fourteen, but

1349
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Speaker 2: but that was something else, and there was you know,

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Speaker 2: we got there at three what time was it? The

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Speaker 2: game was five, So we got there two thirty in

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Speaker 2: the afternoon on game day. Tashiba Plaza was build two

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Speaker 2: and a half hours before game time, with people chanting go,

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Speaker 2: Nights go, and people were just walking up to each

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Speaker 2: other and hugging because there was a sense of inevitability

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Speaker 2: that they were going to win the Cup that night.

1357
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Speaker 2: And then I think the finding was ninety two, and

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Speaker 2: you see, I got the shelf behind me there.

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Speaker 3: I saw that.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean, the relationship that that team has with

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Speaker 5: that city and longtime hockey fans like yourself is unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: So is Kevinioli dot com. You can check out all

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Speaker 5: this man's content there on exits at kevin I and

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Speaker 4: L E.

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Speaker 5: My man, appreciate the time site. You know, in journalism

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Speaker 5: and you know you're never afraid to ask the good questions.

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Speaker 5: So power two. You keep doing you and I'll see

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Speaker 5: out there in Vegas in about ten days, my.

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Speaker 2: Man, see you soon, be well, guys, Thank you, Thank man.

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Speaker 5: No fast forward button, so we are happy to let

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Speaker 5: More details to come on that and then just one

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Speaker 5: final MMA note on the way out. We will be

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Speaker 5: back later this week, of course, with a full preview

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Speaker 5: of Gilbert Burns and Sean Brady Brian Petrie on deck.

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Speaker 5: But Kenny is somebody who fought for the lightweight championship

1415
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 5: three times. I just wanted to present to you this

1416
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 5: quote from Dan Hooker on the way out if I

1417
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 5: could now. I know you fought in a different era,

1418
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 5: the circumstances were different, but this is a quote from

1419
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Speaker 5: Dan Hooker to ESPN Australia. Last time that he fought

1420
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Speaker 5: against a highly ranked contender, it was Michael Chandler making

1421
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 5: his UFC debut, and Dan suggested that was too big

1422
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 5: a risk, and he said he kind of learned from

1423
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 5: that first rodeo to just kind of not do anything

1424
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: dumb this time around. The last time I was number five,

1425
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 5: I agreed to fight Michael Chandler. I gave him a shot.

1426
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 5: It was his first fight in the UFC. I flew

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01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 5: to Abu Dhabi, to the other side of the world,

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01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 5: with absolutely no coaches, and went and fought him with

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Speaker 5: a guy I've been training with for six months in

1430
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 5: my corner. It was not the smartest of decision. So

1431
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 5: I guess this time around, I'm just not going to

1432
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 5: do anything or sell my title shot again. I appreciate

1433
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 5: my team and my coaches a lot more than I

1434
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 5: did before. And gosh, if this isn't a case of

1435
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 5: a tale of two careers. Kenny with Dan Hooker, right,

1436
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 5: I mean UFC debut and Auckland in twenty fourteen and

1437
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 5: had that crazy year fighting Felder and Pourier back to back,

1438
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 5: and a lot of people wondered if he could ever

1439
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 5: get back to a top level, and sort of we

1440
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 5: increasingly come to find out that at that point in time,

1441
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 5: you know, he wasn't all in in all the right ways.

1442
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 5: So I'm very intrigued to see what Hooker can do.

1443
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 5: And he's obviously taking control of his career now when

1444
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 5: it comes to contention in a way that he obviously

1445
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:38,480
Speaker 5: was not doing before.

1446
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Speaker 6: One hundred percent. And I think it's really smart.

1447
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: And I think we have to be so conscious as

1448
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Speaker 1: professional athletes of the thing that makes us who we are.

1449
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: In Dan Hooker's case, that is toughness, right, and courage,

1450
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: and that very thing can be your best friend or

1451
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: your worst enemy. And because he's tough and because he's courageous,

1452
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: he's like, yes, you on, I will fight whoever whenever,

1453
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: let's go, And that kind of came back to bite

1454
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: him in that fight against Chandler. And now he's he's

1455
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: learned from that and he's being a little bit smarter

1456
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: about it, which I think is great, and uh yeah,

1457
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: I think he should reserve that that courage and that

1458
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Speaker 1: toughness when he's.

1459
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Speaker 6: In the cage, and uh yeah, I hope he gets you.

1460
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 5: But Jay, Dan Hooker fought Islama Kashev, I don't know

1461
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 5: if he had a full training camp. That rematch figures

1462
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 5: to be a tough matchup for him. But you can

1463
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 5: already hear Dan Hooker trying to maybe take control of

1464
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 5: his career a little bit, asking for a fight with

1465
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Speaker 5: Arman saur Jan, who presumably is going to fight for

1466
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 5: the title instead of maybe Charles Olivera, and who knows,

1467
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 5: I mean it could be Hooker and Olivera for a

1468
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 5: BMF belt. There's a lot of things in front of

1469
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 5: Dan Hooker j that weren't there before the Mataus Gamra. Way, Well,

1470
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Speaker 5: when you talk he talks about selling his title shot,

1471
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, on the opportunity for him, talking

1472
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Speaker 5: about the danger with Gamra, not so even in the fight,

1473
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 5: not even just the lead up to the fight, but

1474
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 5: even in the fight sort of p himself. I can't

1475
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 5: get enough of it, John, And you were calling him

1476
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 5: your favorite fighter weeks before that last fight. But you know,

1477
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 5: when you talk about guys sort of in that position

1478
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 5: and sort of controlling their own destiny. And there's certain

1479
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 5: fighters where you may turn down an opportunity with the

1480
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 5: promotion and you might be concerned about when your next

1481
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 5: opportunity will will come and delay there. But even and

1482
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 5: I hate you know, I know you think I always

1483
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 5: talk about Balu, but even with Bilal, it's like, are

1484
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Speaker 5: you going to fight in October for a bag or

1485
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 5: are you going to fight when you're ready to defend

1486
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 5: your belt?

1487
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 3: Right?

1488
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 5: No, And we inject George Saint Pierre's name into this

1489
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 5: conversation a lot, and whether it was strategically coming out

1490
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 5: of retirement to fight Michael Bisping or making sure that

1491
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 5: uh he fought on the right calendar. I mean, certainly

1492
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 5: there was a time in George Saint Pierre's career when

1493
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 5: he lost to Matt Sarah that he was ripping off

1494
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 5: heads to get back to that fight, and he was

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Speaker 5: one of the most active guys on the roster. But

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Speaker 5: you know, there are strategic things involved with these career

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Speaker 5: and I guess it's just a long winded way of

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Speaker 5: saying I'm happy that Dan Hooker is in this position

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Speaker 5: because sometimes he hasn't always made the career best TOC

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Speaker 5: decision when it comes to fighting for belts, and now

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Speaker 5: it stands to reason. You know, he's got a new

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Speaker 5: five fight contract that he just broke in memorably that

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Speaker 5: he's going to make a lot of money in this

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Speaker 5: stage of his USC career. All right, thank you to

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Speaker 5: our guests today, UFC Weltway Champion Balow, Muhammad, Ray Longo,

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Speaker 5: we'll be back later in the week. We will preview

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night, Burns versus Brady Apex this weekend, Spear

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Speaker 5: next weekend. It's all systems go for the worldwide leader

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Speaker 5: in combat sports. After the bye week and we'll be

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Speaker 5: back later this week. Thanks to everybody for indulging us

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Speaker 5: live and we will talk to you about forty eight

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Speaker 5: hours for Kemplum John and Jay, thanks for stepping up

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Speaker 5: until Wednesday or Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Yellow down a bus.

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Speaker 5: Like you can roast either.

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Speaker 2: Love tres me the soul to the breath.

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Speaker 6: He's gone bread, he's gone bred. L This opprescious to

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Speaker 6: the method.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep your hands on the back of the

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Speaker 1: open He's gone red.

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Speaker 5: He's gone red. He's gone