1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: are rolling through the final show of the week. Encourage 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: you as always go subscribe to the podcast. You search 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: out Clay Travish and search out Buck Sexton. You will 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: get a variety of awesome podcasts as a part of 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: our podcast network, from Moms to Badass Navy Seals all 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: points in between. You can find whatever story you would 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: like to find. We got a pretty good variety there, 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: I think, Buck and we have, speaking of variety, a 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: guy who's talked about every subject under the sun and 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: written about a lot of them over the years. 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly, Bill bringing you in. 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: It's almost one hundred days and big broad question to 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: start with you. I think one hundred days will officially 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: be early next week. How would you grade the first 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: one hundred days of the Trump administration? Has anything surprised you? 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: Has anything stood out to you that maybe you were 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: not anticipating all So, as a part of that grade 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: that you might. 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: Give, well, you'd have to do subjects if you want 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: to be fair and give grades different subjects, the economy, 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: foreign affairs, immigration, all to get different grades. I think 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: the tariff Liberation Day stuff was unanticipated, certainly by me, 25 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: and I'm you know, I have a pretty close contact 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: with the White House. I know what they're doing and 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: why they're doing, and I wasn't ready for that shock 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: and awe at all. So Tuesday is one hundred day anniversary. 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: On Wednesday, we'll be doing a two hour town hall 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: on News Nation, kicking it off with President Trump. He'll 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: be on with me, Chris Cuomo, Stephen A. Smith to 32 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: go down the list of what has happened. But you know, 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: a lot of this is emotion, not sacked, and that's 34 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: what I'm trying to get away from. But if you 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: ask me a specific question about a policy that Trump 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: has done in one hundred days, I can give you 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: a fairly specific answer. 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: Well, let's let's take a look, first, Bill at what 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: you think on the economy, because that's been I think 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: the primary policy area where even people who are pro 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: Trump maybe have gotten a little unnerved by some of 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: the market moves recently. Right if the left, oh yeah, 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: Trump is hitler, he sent this MS thirteen guy. We 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: expect all that stuff. But the economy, the tariff, some 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: of that I think is where you know, there's a 46 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: little bit of a have faith in me, trust me 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: attitude from Trump on this one. How do you how 48 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: do you assess how he's doing and what that's looking 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 4: like so far. 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: Well, whenever you miss with people's money, they're going to 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: get emotional. Number One. I don't know if Donald Trump 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: understands that because he's a child of privilege, he's been 53 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: a wealthy person since he's been born. But I don't 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: don't know if he understands the emotion that Americans have 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: tied into their cash because it's everything in this country. 56 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: There's the capitalistic country, and then if you don't have 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: enough money, you're gonna have a miserable life period. So 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: when the stock market began to robble and then collapse 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: for a few days, people not only started to worry, 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: they got angry, because when you're surprised in a negative way, 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: usually the first emotion is anger, what are you doing? 62 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: Joy for me? All right? That's natural, it's all natural. 63 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: Same thing that people don't understand tariffs to this day, 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: they don't know what's going on. You can go out 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: there with charts and you can go to night school 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: or on the Internet. Enroll in a macroeconomics course. You'll 67 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: take you three or four weeks to understand what the 68 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: tariffs are. This isn't like immigration would is easy to understand. 69 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: And so the emotion of the country was what are 70 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: you doing to Donald Trump? And that hurt him. Now 71 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, and I'm going to ask 72 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: him certainly on Wednesday. You know, do you understand why 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: Americans are disshanted at this point? That on the record, 74 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: because it's all what I just told you is one 75 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: hundred percent true. The economy itself is pretty good, and 76 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: it wasn't that under Biden either. Price is true Biden, 77 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: but prices are coming down under Trump. In my area 78 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: on Long Island, gas prices are down significantly and food 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: is down as well. Now I don't think the greedy 80 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: insurance company is going to drop their prices, and that 81 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: was a big factor to destroying Joe Biden. But you 82 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: don't know is increased competition may cause that. But people 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: have jobs and plenty of jobs around. Consumers are spending money, 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: so the economy is okay. But this tariff deal, Trump's 85 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: gone for the big, big payoffs here and maybe he'll 86 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: get it, but maybe doesn't counter panic. 87 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: We're talking to Bill, O'Reilly's gonna be having the president 88 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: for one hundred days. You've known the president a long time. 89 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Buck has known the president for a long time. I've 90 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: known him the last five or six years. He seems 91 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: more comfortable to me, Bill, in this iteration of his 92 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: presidency than he ever has before. I'm curious if you 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: get that vibe from him, whether you would attribute it 94 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: partly to surviving in Butler. Maybe it's winning the popular vote, 95 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: maybe despite putting on the twenty twenty eight hat, it's 96 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: knowing that there is an end to the race in 97 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: sight where he's not necessarily a politician anymore. 98 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: Do you get that that sense? 99 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: How would you assess him personally as we come up 100 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: on this one hundred day mark. 101 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 3: Well, certainly he's far more comfortable than he was the 102 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: first time around, because the first time around he didn't 103 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: know what he was doing. 104 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: So he comes into office, and I can tell you 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: this with certainty, knowing that the president before him fell 107 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: dismally and with a personal grudge against Joe Biden. Donald 108 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: Trump hates Joe Biden, and I don't use that word often. 109 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: It's not a dislike, it's a hate because Trump believes 110 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: that Biden was behind many of the legal problems that 111 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: he experienced. Where's Merrick Garland, By the way, he's in 112 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: a witness protection program. I never saw a guy get 113 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: out of town fast. All right. So Trump comes in 114 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 3: and he goes he's got an agenda where he didn't 115 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: have that in the first go around he was It 116 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: took him almost six months to believe he was actually there. Okay, 117 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: so he gets there and he goes shocking, awe, shocking 118 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 3: all border boom works, shocking, aw dei boom works, shocking awe. 119 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: Paris uh oh doesn't work. Now, the first few months 120 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: before the tariffs, he was riding high and he was 121 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: very super confident. Now, some little more tentative add that 122 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: the Prutin basically poking him in the eye because Trump 123 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: did not anticipate that what happened. They had a structure 124 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: of a deal before Trump was even elected prudent and 125 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: Trump that Prutain is so evil, so massively bad, that 126 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: he's going to cause as much problem as human possible 127 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: before he'll make a deal. And Trump did not anticipate that. 128 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: So let's throw him off his game a little bit 129 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: Trump with the terrifs and Putin, but certainly he's far 130 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: more confident now. And I was in a cabinet meeting 131 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: with him and his advisors on Saint Patrick's Day than 132 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: he was the first time around. 133 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: Bill, Could I just jump in on that, because I 134 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: think that's really interesting. Do you think that Putin may 135 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: have underestimated Trump in this exchange? Because it's not looking good? 136 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: And I mean that from the optic side of things, right, 137 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: I know the deal's not done, nothing's been agreed to formally, 138 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: et cetera. But for Putin to do the dramatic escalation 139 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: with some of these strikes, maybe dramatic is too strong 140 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: a word. Escalation with some of these strikes. While this 141 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: is ongoing, I think Trump feels a little slighted personally, 142 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 4: And I just wonder if you think that Putin doesn't 143 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: realize slighting Trump personally is not not smart business. 144 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: You know, I am not a psychiatrist, but I have 145 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin on the cover of my upcoming book, Confronting Evil, 146 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: which will be out September ninth. The guy is hardcore. 147 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: He enjoys inflicting pain on other people. He's unpredictable, so 148 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: it's hard for me to assess his motivation. I can 149 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 3: tell you that Trump was confident because Trump looks at 150 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: life in a linear way. If the deal is good, 151 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: you take it. Putin doesn't see it that way. Putin 152 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: wants to inflict pain on other people. That's what he's 153 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: done his whole entire life. I don't know if Trump 154 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: understands that. I actually told him that face to face 155 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: eight years ago in the first interview he did before 156 00:09:54,200 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: being inaugurated, when I was on Fox News and I said, 157 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: this guy, he's a killer, and you know the sound bite. 158 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: It's a famous sound bite. He goes, well, we're not 159 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: that pure ourselves. That was Trump's answer. Now, I believe 160 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: that that Trump knows that he's going to have to 161 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: punish Putin in order to get Putin to do anything, 162 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: and that strategy is underway. 163 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: How much you said you were in a cabinet meeting 164 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: on Saint Patrick's day with Trump. 165 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: How confident are you. 166 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: In Pete Hegseth's stature as the Defense secretary. So far, 167 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Trump has not had to fire anybody in the first 168 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: hundred days. I think he wants to set the precedent 169 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: that he is not going to listen to the media 170 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: at all because they're never happy and they're always demanding 171 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: the next head on a platter. How would you assess 172 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: heg Seth's status and so far Trump staying behind everybody 173 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: that's a part of the cabinet. 174 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: When Hegseth was nominated, I said that was not a 175 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: good nomination. You'll remember that. I think we talked about 176 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: it on this program. We did, yeah, and the reason 177 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 3: was that most people are working at Pentagon are careerists 178 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: their whole life. They work there. They don't want an 179 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: agent of change walking in. That's haig Seth. They're going 180 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: to try to undermine and destroy him. A stronger person 181 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: with more experience could counter that. Hegg Seth can't. Therefore, 182 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: he is not going to survive in that job. Now, 183 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: your point about Donald Trump not being intimidated by the 184 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: hate Trump media is an excellent point and everybody should 185 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: understand it. He's not going to look weak. But I 186 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: don't believe that mister hegg Seth is going to be 187 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: able to run the Pentagon. That will become clear to 188 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: the Joint chiefs of Staff, who then tell Donald Trump 189 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: if they haven't already you got to get somebody else 190 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: in there, and we. 191 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: Ask you Bill also, we're running close up against the breaker, 192 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: but I did want to get this in. I'm sure 193 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: you saw this. I guess maybe scuttle butt about Vessant 194 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: and Elon, two guys with plenty of money and plenty 195 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: of ego. I think that's fair to say, really going 196 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: at it if you believe the reports. And I haven't 197 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 4: seen anybody. I mean, Caroline Levitt was like, you know, 198 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: boys'll be boys, So this wasn't No one has seemed 199 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: to suggest this is fake but getting personal, getting nasty 200 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 4: over the irs. 201 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: Director, What do you see here? 202 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: What are the bigger dynamics maybe within the White House 203 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 4: that you think this might allude to? Or is this 204 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: just two guys, you know, scoping each other out and 205 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: not liking what they see? 206 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: What was this all about? 207 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what it was about, but I know 208 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: it happened. So you're not going to see much of 209 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: Elon Musk this summer, and I think his tenure at 210 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: the White House. He still has the President's ear, but 211 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: he's not gonna be around very much as it is, 212 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 3: emerging as a very powerful person in the Trump administration. 213 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 214 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not early, I don't know. I 215 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: do know that he was a moderating force to pull 216 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: back on the shock and awe with the tariffs, and 217 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: you know that worked. The market stabilized to some extent. 218 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: That's a big plus for him. 219 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: What is the one thing you want to see? 220 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure, sorry, I don't want to make 221 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 4: you give up some of what you're going to be 222 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: talking to about in a few days, but I think 223 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: everyone would expect you'd ask the focus between now and 224 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: the fall for Trump. I know there's a lot of 225 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: things got to walk into you gum at the same time. Sure, 226 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: but if there's one area where he could put real 227 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 4: points on the board in a way that would help 228 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: with the momentum to get more of the agenda done, 229 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: not losing the midterms, etc. What would you want to 230 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: see him? You know, what do you think the most 231 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: important area for racking up wins is for this administration? 232 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Well, if what I am hearing is true, he'll have 233 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: deals with India and Japan to announce almost maybe next week, 234 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: and if that happens, the EU will follow soon and 235 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: Mexico and Canada. Also, if you can get that done 236 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: in the month of May, then he'll be riding high again. 237 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 238 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 4: And then Bill, where can people go to see the interview? 239 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: We're running into break here. We wanted to make sure 240 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: everyone knows where can they go? And also Bill Oreilly 241 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 4: dot com for your daily analysis. 242 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: Right, yep, that's the place to go. 243 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, guys, All right, thank you so much. 244 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: Look, dads, you already know this something. 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Appreciate 271 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we are 272 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: rolling through the Friday edition of the program. 273 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: And Buck, you know, I know we were talking with uh. 274 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: We were talking about Hegseth making the decision the right 275 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: one to go back and try to get an update 276 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: on the COVID nineteen reinstatements, and how important that was. 277 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to play this. I had him pull it. 278 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: This is what Fauci was saying, in July of twenty 279 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: twenty about what would need to happen in order for 280 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: kids to be back in school. I don't want any 281 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: of you to forget the lies that we were told. 282 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Listen to the minimum of what teachers needed to be wearing, Perfouci. 283 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 6: The minimal things you might want to do is you 284 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 6: could use just a mask and eye goggles and possibly gloves. 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You did a 323 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: show a couple of months ago, went fantastically well has 324 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: managed to thread the needle where he's still doing something 325 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: a bit rare, which is trying to make fun of 326 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: both sides somewhat evenly, which used to be the province 327 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: of the David Lettermans and the Johnny Carsons and the 328 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: Jay Leno's in that era before everybody went crazy when 329 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon rubbed Donald Trump's hair, and since that point 330 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: in time, it has been determined that comedians must be 331 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: on the side of the anti Trump, anti Maga agenda 332 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: as opposed to just continuing to make fun of everybody. 333 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: And Larry David, who I like and is the George 334 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: character inspiration on Seinfeld and then did a really funny 335 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: show called Curb Your Enthusiasm which aired for a decade 336 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: worth the shows or. 337 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: More on HBO. 338 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's a talented comedian. We 339 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: don't have political agreement. And Larry David recently wrote an 340 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: essay for The New York Times making fun of Bill 341 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: Maher for going to dinner with Trump and comparing it 342 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: to going to dinner with Adolph Hitler in the nineteen thirties. 343 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Bill Maher now has responded to the comedy comedian on 344 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: comedian crime by this cut cut for talking about Larry 345 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: David's essay. 346 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 8: The minute you played the Hitler kars, you've lost the argument. Yes, 347 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 8: And also I must say, you know, come on, man, 348 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 8: Hitler Nazis no money has been harder about an on 349 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 8: and more prescient I must say about Donald Trump than me. 350 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 8: I don't need to be lectured on who Donald Trump is. 351 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 8: Just the fact that I met him in person didn't 352 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 8: change that. And the fact that I reported on honestlie 353 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 8: is not a sin either. But you know, to use 354 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 8: the Hitler thing, first of all, I just think it's 355 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 8: kind of insulting to six million dead Jews, you know, 356 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 8: like that should kind of be in its own place 357 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 8: in history. 358 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: I think Bill Maher's completely right, and he sounds eminently reasonable. 359 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: I know these guys are supposed to be professionally funny, 360 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: but when you make the attack that Larry David did, 361 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: I think Bill Maher's one hundred percent the right here. 362 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hitler murdered eleven million people total in the death gams, 363 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: eleven million, six million Jews, and you're going to compare 364 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: that to Donald Trump, And I think that you're an intelligent, 365 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: reasonable person. He's completely right about the people will refer 366 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 4: to this as like the Ad Hitler argument, where you 367 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: just oh, he's Hitler, he's Hitler. I think it's interesting 368 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: as well. You could argue Mao and or Stalin are 369 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: just as bad, and yet people never go to those 370 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 4: historical figures in this country the same way, which I 371 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: think there are deep reasons for that, because of the 372 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: fondness for left wing Marxist ideology that a lot of 373 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 4: people still have in this country. But anyway, I think 374 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: I think it's interesting how Bill has been at mar 375 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: has been able to straddle both sides of the aisle 376 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: a little bit on this and be one of the 377 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 4: rare shows. Look when he had me on the show 378 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 4: Clay in October, his audience didn't want to hear that 379 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 4: Trump was gonna win, and he knew that I was 380 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 4: going to come in there and say Trump is winning 381 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: this election. Guys, Kamalo's a joke, and here's why. And 382 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: he let me make that case. And now that Trump 383 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: is won, he's continued to have on some some weeks 384 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: you know better than others. Some weeks it's a Trump 385 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 4: is terrible week, but he does allow people to make 386 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 4: the case the other side and exposes his audience to 387 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: at least a real explanation or a real, you know, 388 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: pro Trump version of events. 389 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: And where else does that really occur? 390 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 9: In? 391 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: This is what's so amazing, Like we've had a lot 392 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 4: of good things happening in the media overall, where I 393 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: think now they don't have anywhere near the same stranglehold 394 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: on the public consciousness that they used to and determining 395 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 4: what the news cycle is. Where do you see really 396 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: good exchanges? And it's not every week on Bill Maher, 397 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: don't send me you know, recently there was an episode 398 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: my brother told me, He's like, don't watch it, it's garbage, 399 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 4: you know, But some. 400 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: Weeks it's good. 401 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 4: Where else do you see it? I think it's peery 402 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: Piers Morgan would be one, and it's a little bit 403 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 4: more how would I describe it, It's a little bit 404 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: more of that's a rock Em Sockem kind of situation. 405 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: I enjoy it, but it's got Clay's like, oh, I 406 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 4: like the Rockham Sockam penal. 407 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not surprised. 408 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, But but he does try to bring on divergent 409 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: perspectives and then people are just throwing punches in every direction, 410 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: and so it can have a political Jerry Springer connotation 411 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: to it, for lack of a better way to describe it. 412 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: But I do think what is super fascinating to me 413 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Buck about the Larry David piece where he compares Trump 414 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: to Hitler, and then al Gore went a little bit 415 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: viral this week as well, comparing Trump to Hitler. After 416 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: all of this, at the end of one hundred days, 417 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: we're right back to Trump as Hitler. They don't have anything. 418 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: That was how the campaign ended, you know. Coabbla tried 419 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: to kind of knock around and say things, and she 420 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: didn't really become the best advocate for her cause to 421 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: the extent there was one, and she said, you wouldn't 422 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: have done anything different than Joe Biden. And she ran 423 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: a thoroughly awful campaign which was partly camouflaged by having 424 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: one point five billion dollars to average. Can you imagine, Buck, 425 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: if you had one point five billion dollars to spend 426 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: and the whole goal was just to make people like you. 427 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: That's basically the entire aspect of a political campaign. 428 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 6: Now. 429 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: I know. 430 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: Also you're telling the saying the other side is bad, 431 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: but by and large you get to spend a billion 432 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: and a half dollars to convince people to like you, 433 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and it didn't work, and they closed with Trump is 434 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Hitler all over again. And now after one hundred days, 435 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: they tried out other messages, but ultimately they just have 436 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: cycled right back to Trump is Hitler. 437 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: So what do we got? 438 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty five plus three more years on 439 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: top of that, so we got basically a thousand days 440 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: of Trump is Hitler. That's going to be their only message. 441 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: It's really kind of unbelievable that this is where they are. 442 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people are saying, people are 443 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 4: saying some people are saying out. 444 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: There, a lot of people are saying that it's going 445 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: to be AOC. 446 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: Have you seen that that AOC is going to be 447 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: the great hope of the Democrat Party? Oh yeah, of course, 448 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: more articles, more and more analysis about this. I know 449 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: you think it won't be It won't be a woman, 450 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: which is interesting, interesting take on it. 451 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: They won't say it publicly, but in the same way 452 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Buck that I saw people the other day saying, you know, 453 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: it's really a no brainer that may or Pete should 454 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: be the nominee. And I'm like black dudes are not 455 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: voting for a gay white guy. Next man up. I mean, 456 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, but that when your base of your 457 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: party is black voters, and no black voters who are 458 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: male by and large are willing to vote for a 459 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: gay white guy, he has no hope of being elected 460 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: president of the United I think, though, if you talk 461 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: to a Democrat strategist, someone who's a Democrat who works 462 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: on these campaigns, you know, people that we come across 463 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: in the media, you know, you know the names, they 464 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: would put it differently, but agree with your analysis of 465 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete's weakness among certain demographics. In the Democrats, they 466 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: just would say the truth bluntly. I'm telling the truth 467 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: bluntly on women too. They won't say it publicly, but no, but. 468 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 4: I think they would just I think they would, even 469 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: behind closed door, disagree with you on the woman thing. 470 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 4: I think that they would believe that that the the 471 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: problem hasn't been running a woman candidate. The problem has 472 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: been the woman candidate. Again, speaking from the Democrat mindset, 473 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: I don't think that they would say it's it's that 474 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: they ran a woman. Is that the women that they 475 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: ran were not up to the we're not up to 476 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 4: the task. And look, Hillary was super close to winning 477 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I know, I mean. 478 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: Far away from winning either. I just think but. 479 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: Even in the even if you look at this, like 480 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 4: Trump did better against Commall than he did against Hillary. Right, yeah, 481 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: Hillary was close, it was a it was a pretty 482 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 4: close election. 483 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 10: Uh. 484 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: Trump just ran the table exactly where he needed to. 485 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: So I don't think anyone's gonna look at that and say, oh, 486 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: we couldn't get a stronger female candidate across the finish line. 487 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna pick you. Look at what 488 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: they did. Is it Dudes Forever? 489 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 6: Then? 490 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: Is that? Just look at Clay Travis just Forever? 491 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: That sounds like today on the show, Dudes Forever sounds 492 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: like one of the worst nineties boy band, like a 493 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: new podcast. 494 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: What it was in the Dudes? There's a Dudes on Dudes, 495 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: Dudes on Dudes. Yeah, that's a I think that's Grenkowski 496 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 4: and Edelman. But look, I think I think actually a 497 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: Republican woman has a better chance of winning because I 498 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: think the problem that Democrats have when they put forward 499 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: a woman is it makes almost immediately the entire election 500 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: a referendum on abortion and I think that even for 501 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 4: motivating women, I think Kamala learned in twenty twenty four. 502 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: You watch her closing arguments, what was Trump is hitler? 503 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 4: And not only is he hitler. If you get pregnant, 504 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: he's going to drag you out of your home by 505 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 4: your hair and make you have a baby. 506 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: And what is interesting is Trump did better with women 507 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four than he did in twenty sixteen 508 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: or in twenty twenty. I think abortion is fading as 509 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: an issue because it's now a state issue, and I 510 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: think that women candidates almost feel compelled Democrats to make 511 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: abortion their signature issue, and I don't think it's a 512 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: signature enough issue for the nation anymore. 513 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 4: I always thought that the pro abortion, pro Roe side 514 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: of the argument was wildly overstating how much of an 515 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 4: impact it would have on elections. And I think we 516 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: actually just saw that beyond any doubt in this election 517 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 4: in the midterms, because of when the decision came down, right, 518 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: wasn't it June and then the midterms were that fall. 519 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 4: People didn't know, that's right, that what they were being 520 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: told was a lie. So the Democrats got away with 521 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: exactly what you said. They're going to pull your you know, 522 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: your fifteen year old daughter, you know, out of your 523 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: house and make her have the baby that she wasn't 524 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: planning on. 525 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: You know, all these things, right, all the. 526 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: Stories that you were fear bongering, the things that would 527 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: motivate middle of the. 528 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: Road female voters. 529 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: There were some people who might have said, Oh my gosh, 530 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: I'm concerned, what is this going to mean? All of 531 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 4: that stuff was a lie, And if you just live 532 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: in reality, you know that that's a lie. And so 533 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: that's why I think if it had happened a year sooner, 534 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 4: the decision, I think you would have had even less 535 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 4: impact in the midterms. But because of the timeline, they 536 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: were able to lie about it and get away with it. 537 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: But that's over. 538 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: And the truth is, how do you motivate people in 539 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: states where you know, if you live in a state 540 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: and you know you're somebody who the law hasn't actually 541 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 4: changed in that state, it's very hard in a meaningful way. 542 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: It's very hard to convince people that something terrible has happened. Right, 543 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: I mean not only that, buck, just look at where 544 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 4: people are moving. All of the states with the most 545 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: liberal abortion laws are losing population. To the states with 546 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 4: the least liberal abortion laws. Now, if people truly felt 547 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 4: like that was a signature, oh my goodness issue, you 548 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: wouldn't be moving from Chicago to Florida, or New York 549 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: City to Nashville, or LA to Austin, Texas. You would 550 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: be saying, well, we've got to keep our families in 551 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: these states because abortion policy matters so much to me. Instead, 552 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: you're seeing the exact opposite of that, which is the 553 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: more liberal that is basically nine month plus abortion laws, 554 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: the more those states are losing population. You know, we're 555 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 4: talking about this right now, and it's a perfect time 556 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: to remind everybody that there's a fight every day to 557 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 4: save as many babies as possible that is underway. And 558 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: yes there's the laws, Yes there's convincing people in state 559 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: legislatures and in government to do the right thing and 560 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 4: protect life. But you can also just help moms protect 561 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: the life in their womb day in and day out. 562 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 4: That's what Preborn does and this is how they're saving babies, 563 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: not in six months, not in six weeks right now, 564 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 4: and they've been doing it for decades. The Preborn Network 565 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: of clinics has saved over three hundred thousand babies with 566 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 4: their approach of love, compassion, care and support for pregnant 567 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: women who are scared and who don't know what choice 568 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: they're going to ma make. Preborn comes in and says, 569 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: let's just start with this. 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It's a tax deductible, one hundred percent tax 579 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 4: deductible donation, and just think of the impact that you 580 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 4: could have on so many lives across the country. But 581 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: whatever you can spare is helping their mission. Twenty eight dollars, 582 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: twenty eight hundred dollars, anything in between. Whatever you have 583 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: to offer, Preborn will gratefully accept and put toward this 584 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,479 Speaker 4: mission of saving babies lives. All you have to do 585 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: right now is dial pound two five zero, say the 586 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: keyword baby. That's pound two five zero, Save baby. Or 587 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 4: go to preborn dot com slash Buck preborn dot com 588 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 4: slash b u c K sponsored by Preborn. 589 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 5: Stories of Freedom, Stories of America, inspirational stories that you 590 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 5: unite us all each day. Spend time with Clay and 591 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 5: find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 592 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 5: get your podcasts. 593 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Clay's got 594 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: his interview with Tom Holman coming up here to get 595 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 4: really deep into the efforts to enforce immigration law and 596 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 4: to continue to secure our border. So you're gonna want 597 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: to dive in with him in just a few moments. 598 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 4: I've got to go tend to some family matters because 599 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: I've got my whole family here and I got to 600 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: go help out and you know, change diapers and do 601 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 4: all those good things I got now with the little man, 602 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 4: which a lot of fun and with that actually a 603 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: good time for the talkback here. D D Tom from 604 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: New York City who listens on w o R. 605 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Play it. 606 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 9: Oh fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck you just did it? 607 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 9: Just you wait you're gonna see that when that baby 608 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 9: gets a little bit older, he's gonna want to stay awake, 609 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 9: and you're gonna be used to him going to sleep, 610 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 9: and you're gonna be tired. 611 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 6: Buck. 612 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 9: Congratulations, it's wonderful. 613 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Tom. 614 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 4: Tom's People who don't know you may have jinks things 615 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: by saying the first couple of weeks your son had 616 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 4: been sleeping pretty well. Yeah, oh, I'm aware that I 617 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: might have jinxed it, but I'm all I can do 618 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: is report back. Honestly. People can ask me like, are 619 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 4: you okay, I'm like, I'm fine. Like, first of all, 620 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: as I said, Carrie's doing ninety five percent of baby, 621 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: you know, baby things that need to be done, she's 622 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 4: doing ninety I mean, I help out as I can, 623 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 4: but she's she's amazing on that front. And so yeah, 624 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 4: I think, so far, so good. Cindy in Mount Vernon, Ohio, 625 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 4: the different Mount Verdon. What's going on, Cindy Buck good? Yes, 626 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 4: it's Buckuck. 627 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 10: I am so thrilled. I love Crockett coffee. My favorite 628 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 10: gift was a bag of Crockett coffee and a Daddy's 629 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 10: Home mug with Donald Trump's mug on it. I love it. 630 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 4: Can you Can you take a photo of you with 631 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 4: your Donald Trump mug drinking Crockett and put it out 632 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: on social media. 633 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: We can share it around so everybody can see the 634 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 2: good I. 635 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 10: Don't even have it. I'm so our cake. I can 636 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 10: take an old kind and if you if I didn't 637 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 10: even know your address, I can get that through somebody. 638 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 10: I'm not a stalker. I'm not a creepy. 639 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 2: It's okay. 640 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 4: You can send it into the studio in New York. 641 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: They'll give you the address and then we'll we can 642 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 4: upload it. Uh, and we can get that go. But 643 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: that's where we love it. You love Crockett, coffee and 644 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: Donald Trump a fantastic combination. And Cindy, thank you so 645 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 4: much for calling it. Thank you for listening. We'll take 646 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: one more here. Dave in Pennsylvania. What's going on? 647 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: Dave? Oh, he's gone. Well I should have stayed. I 648 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: should have stayed with Cindy. Who is who? Tom and 649 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: New York? Don in New York, Don in New York. 650 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: Go for it. Yeah, I don't think I have enough time. 651 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: Can you can you get back to me after the hour. 652 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 653 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: Man Clay's taking over Clay your call, buddy, what do 654 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: you want to do? 655 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: Well, we got Tom Holman coming on. I guess we 656 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: can have you wait on. I mean I've never we've 657 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: never had anybody request. 658 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: To come on later. How how time do you need 659 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 4: don give us? Like as a ballpark here? What are 660 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: we talking about? Two minutes? 661 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 7: Did you say people well work for? 662 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 9: Sut you up? 663 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did? 664 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: All right? 665 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to talk to you about that. Yeah, 666 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 4: I got a theory on that. 667 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 3: I'll wait. That's all right, I'll talk to you after 668 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 3: home's over. 669 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 2: Clay h enjoying the conversation. Have a good weekend, Buck, 670 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: Tom Homan Next