Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Drinks it's coffee black. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United
Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. My name is Dan hands as I'm
Speaker 1: joined and were filled with heroes Mark Secler, Chris Wessling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is our boys? Good energy? Good energy?
Speaker 1: Right now? I feel like a flat Sunday and so Hands,
Speaker 1: this is bringing the energy. Gotta do it. Good leadership.
Speaker 1: Maybe not the Sunday that we all dreamed of, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was still football. It's fun and it
Speaker 1: was free to the people. I didn't hate this Sunday.
Speaker 1: Is that this that the no I did wisdom here?
Speaker 1: It was just like the big games? What didn't have
Speaker 1: a black check moments? It was just it was fine,
Speaker 1: It was good. It checked a lot of boxes that
Speaker 1: it's almost over. That's good. Let's talk about it. Mark.
Speaker 1: We'll give you the floor real quick before we get
Speaker 1: into anything. Um the Cleveland Browns. What happened on Thursday?
Speaker 1: In my mentions? My mentions were flooded with people saying, oh,
Speaker 1: I wanted to hear from Sessler. We'll give you the
Speaker 1: floor for thirty seconds right now to address the fiasco
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. It was as a very uh Cleveland type win.
Speaker 1: You've finally beating the Steelers for the first time in
Speaker 1: five years. Your quarterback played the cleanest game he's played
Speaker 1: to some degree during a messy season, and all anyone
Speaker 1: can talk about is a and a controversy that feels
Speaker 1: like it was spun from the dreamlands of Dave damashek
Speaker 1: I mean, who's been tweeting about it NonStop ever since,
Speaker 1: so you know it's it's it's talking about checking all
Speaker 1: the boxes I could not. I've stayed off Twitter ever since.
Speaker 1: I don't need to interact about it. We all saw
Speaker 1: what it was, and you know we won't be seeing
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett for many, many moons, many months in a row.
Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway there was just damas Twitter accountants on your radar.
Speaker 1: I interact, I interact happily with a million times, but
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't need to go on and on
Speaker 1: about it. You know it was. It was a bombermark.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was hard to draw up a win
Speaker 1: that produced less enjoyment for you. Yeah, it's It's reminded
Speaker 1: me of the Jets win on on Monday Night when
Speaker 1: I was essentially and not because of Dan, but you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to celebrate that game either, because the Jets
Speaker 1: had like three professional players on the field. It was
Speaker 1: just like this season is mostly a bummer. And just
Speaker 1: to tie it all together, Myles Garrett broke Trevor Simeon's
Speaker 1: leg in that game as well, So there is a
Speaker 1: bee line here. It's all been building up to that. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll get it more into that perhaps during the week,
Speaker 1: but um, we have some football that occurred on Sunday
Speaker 1: to talk about. Um, And uh, I'm excited, you know, Greg,
Speaker 1: even when there's not major, major subplots in all time games,
Speaker 1: you love all football games. So this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a fun hour. I'm gonna have a great time, all right.
Speaker 1: So why don't we start with the game that had
Speaker 1: probably the most excitement per minute. Let us head to
Speaker 1: the big barrel bottom or he runs jetside, He's got
Speaker 1: a turn, Tim touched out, Fred Siscow, zero blaidh kitchen
Speaker 1: singarofolo and who comes up with a big playe the
Speaker 1: touchdown machine. Jeff Wilson goes up over his head, collects
Speaker 1: the rock and rolls. Excellent call by Greg Poppa and
Speaker 1: Tim Ryan of the forty Niners Radio network. There's the energy.
Speaker 1: We got it from that team. Jimmy Garoppolo beat the
Speaker 1: blitz found Jeff Wilson Jr. Who gathered the past bass
Speaker 1: jetted into the end zone for the go ahead touchdown
Speaker 1: with thirty one ticks to play the decisive score in
Speaker 1: the niners thirty six win over the Cardinals. West Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray and the Cards pushed the first place Niners to limit.
Speaker 1: But it's called a gut chet win, gut check win
Speaker 1: for San Francisco. Yeah, you want to play with fire, Scarecrow,
Speaker 1: send your zero blitz. Jimmy G hitting the game winner
Speaker 1: right there? Uh, what's crazy about this? Jimmy G throws
Speaker 1: for a career high four Those came in the final
Speaker 1: three quarters. He had four yards going into the second quarter,
Speaker 1: and he finished with nine and a half yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: He also threw two red zone interceptions. But before I
Speaker 1: knew whom Smith asked this performance just in terms of
Speaker 1: like the mistakes, the yard and just a wild shootout performance,
Speaker 1: I was ready to push back on the narrative that
Speaker 1: we have to have a state of the union of
Speaker 1: every quarterback after every game. When I was if Jimmy
Speaker 1: G was gonna emerge victorious out of this, we'll do
Speaker 1: it well. A lot of the same things you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear for Carson Wentz in other quarterbacks, what they're missing,
Speaker 1: what they don't have, why they're not playing well. You
Speaker 1: say the same thing for Jimmy G. Today. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have his leading rusher, and Matt Breeda was out, his
Speaker 1: left tackle, Joe Staley was out, his best, the best
Speaker 1: offensive player in the team, George Kittle was out. Emmanuel Sanders,
Speaker 1: his number one receiver, is in and out of the
Speaker 1: game with rib injury and was clearly limited when he
Speaker 1: was on the field. All these things working against him.
Speaker 1: A defense that's been dominant gives up three touchdowns to
Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback, and Jimmy G steps up big. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, he had some problems throwing a little bit
Speaker 1: high early in the game and his receivers still struggling
Speaker 1: to come down with it. But Deebo Samuel running after
Speaker 1: the catch, Tevin Coleman running after the catch, Kyle use
Speaker 1: Check moving the chains. It was a you know, it
Speaker 1: was use all your weapons, and Kyle Shanahan once again
Speaker 1: just a brilliant play caller. I would be concerned though,
Speaker 1: that he didn't have a running game, because that's two
Speaker 1: straight weeks. And yeah, you're missing Brita, but you well,
Speaker 1: one yards per game in the first seven weeks of
Speaker 1: the season and seventy four yards per game in the
Speaker 1: last three weeks, right and under two yards per carry.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you know, you're playing a division rival two
Speaker 1: straight weeks. Seattle has a pretty good bet on on
Speaker 1: what Shanahan wants to do. And now you place the
Speaker 1: Cardinals two times in three weeks, that's tricky. But I
Speaker 1: don't mind. You know this, this Cardinals forty nine. Some
Speaker 1: teams they just match upgrade have this team. These teams
Speaker 1: play all the time only NFL Classic. When if I'm
Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan and there was reason for depression early
Speaker 1: on in the season, and you know, our friend Jason
Speaker 1: zolmald who is our resident Cardinals fan, has been up
Speaker 1: and down about it, but I would be enthused. And
Speaker 1: every season gets one of these teams at around this
Speaker 1: point in the year where records, aside, whatever's happened aside
Speaker 1: toss it. They become the berserker and they can cause
Speaker 1: major issues for other teams they play the Rams twice
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. They could knock the Rams out of the
Speaker 1: playoffs between now in the end of the year, and
Speaker 1: then one of those is weeks seventeen, they play the
Speaker 1: Steelers and Browns. How about you knock them out too.
Speaker 1: This is a berserker team that can cause damage in
Speaker 1: the a f C and NFC. Although you if you're
Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan, I mean you hate that Steve Wilkes call,
Speaker 1: I mean you're up. You know he's trying to make
Speaker 1: a big play to win the game in regulation by
Speaker 1: you know, throwing a zero blitz at him with thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left, when you know, at best at Joseph France,
Speaker 1: Joseph rather sorry nut, Steve looks, uh, and you're hoping
Speaker 1: that maybe Chase McLoughlin miss is a kick, but instead
Speaker 1: you go all out and you have Chandler Jones covering
Speaker 1: a running back and you know what Chandler Jones did.
Speaker 1: He got undressed on that play. The play was over
Speaker 1: within one second because Chandler Jones is on the ground
Speaker 1: because you know most they're you know, beats him and uh,
Speaker 1: that's tough. It's to be fair. They didn't like a
Speaker 1: lot of Steve Wilkes calls either in recent history, so
Speaker 1: you can't expect fans to be okay with a loss.
Speaker 1: But I look at this as sort of an unbiased person,
Speaker 1: and you found your quarterback, anything to get you a
Speaker 1: better draft pick, it's fine by me. They I mean,
Speaker 1: it was sloppy. You you had to take a quarterback
Speaker 1: two first rounds on a row. But the brain trust
Speaker 1: and ownership and the people in the in the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: With the Cardinals, I think they're feeling really good right now,
Speaker 1: and you feel less good about the fact that you
Speaker 1: had a sixteen nothing lead in this game. That that's tough.
Speaker 1: That's that's a tough loss because if you if you
Speaker 1: win this game, you're not necessarily in in the playoff race.
Speaker 1: You would get to four six and one the Cardinals
Speaker 1: if they would have held on this game, but but
Speaker 1: they would absolutely have some the vibes would be like
Speaker 1: swarming in that building. The positive vibes not quite at
Speaker 1: that level, but still its team to the brink, right right.
Speaker 1: I I don't care. I get the record and I
Speaker 1: get specific little plays, but Cardinals fans who have been
Speaker 1: in the darkness for a number of years at this
Speaker 1: point to West's point should just feel excited about the future.
Speaker 1: And it's a huge win for the forty Niners. Because
Speaker 1: you lose this game to the Cardinals, that's a division loss.
Speaker 1: You've already lost to Seattle, You've got the Saints, You've
Speaker 1: got the Seahawks nipping net next games. Your schedule is
Speaker 1: so tough that you couldn't afford this loss. Next three games, Well,
Speaker 1: let's go next four since Greg's favorite team is on here, Packers, Ravens,
Speaker 1: Saints and then Falcons. Falcons are no get me those
Speaker 1: two middle games. Talk about my favorite teams are on
Speaker 1: the road. And we have seen now Jimmy and GiB
Speaker 1: dominant against the Cardinals twice. Uh, let's see if he
Speaker 1: can do it against some of this competition coming up
Speaker 1: before we go. One last note um one of the
Speaker 1: all time Vegas disasters scenarios unfolded on the final play
Speaker 1: of this game, and Al Michaels is the king of
Speaker 1: Sunday night football and dropping the little nuggets about what's
Speaker 1: happening in the desert and how it affects. Uh, what
Speaker 1: happened with the final score. Let's just hear Chris Myers
Speaker 1: give his best Al Michaels in a big spot. D J.
Speaker 1: Reid takes it into the end zone. That's time expires.
Speaker 1: Now wait a minute to a certain amount of people.
Speaker 1: This could mean a lot to a certain amount of people,
Speaker 1: all speaking code differently, and he's done it. Grade the ref, uh, greg,
Speaker 1: since you're the expert. Wait grade, what is ref? I
Speaker 1: think it was solid A number of people, not amount
Speaker 1: of people? Okay, grammar wise, it takes down, take it down?
Speaker 1: He minus, all right, let's move up lem in motions
Speaker 1: into the back here and then motions too much of lateral.
Speaker 1: Edeman is looking at throw under pressure to strike for
Speaker 1: a Patriots touchdown. Who wrestle Castle Paty. You can see
Speaker 1: from up here perfect coal by McDaniels, the execution of
Speaker 1: Brady just to take a slight step up to make
Speaker 1: sure to make sure Edelman off. The return motion is
Speaker 1: widen up and behind him. He quickly gets in the
Speaker 1: ball and Edelman throws a dirt to Dorset Dragon left
Speaker 1: the right. Bob Sochi and Scott Zolak, I gotta feel
Speaker 1: in your whole family's going down. Zolak. The Patriots Radio
Speaker 1: network with the call, oh those tricky New England Patriots
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman connects with Philip Dorsett the go ahead score
Speaker 1: with ten forty nine to play, and the slug like
Speaker 1: Eagles offense slugged its way to zero points in the
Speaker 1: final forty two minutes of game time. Patriots win. Greg
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and I mean no disrespect. Was blame Gatherett
Speaker 1: level dangerous in this one. But the Carson Wentz led
Speaker 1: Eagles attack appears completely broken right now. They had a
Speaker 1: tough matchup. It was windy, as Tony Romo pointed out
Speaker 1: a million times in the game, but maybe it was
Speaker 1: worth pointing out because this is where one of the
Speaker 1: worst performances you'll see out of Tom Brady and Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: I was coming into this game hoping that you're gonna
Speaker 1: learn something about these two teams coming out of the
Speaker 1: by how they're gonna fix some of their problems, what
Speaker 1: they really are looking at with their strength. But it
Speaker 1: was really more of the same for both teams. I
Speaker 1: mean a million people are gonna make the joke they
Speaker 1: the best spiral of the day was from Edelman, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean it was I mean, that was a bullet
Speaker 1: actual Dorset's gonna yeah, one million doors set was concussed
Speaker 1: on that play. There was a ton of injuries, you know,
Speaker 1: and Wentz his defense also on Jeffrey didn't play in
Speaker 1: this game. They lost Lane Johnson after the third dry,
Speaker 1: which when you know, about ninety yards. Uh. And they
Speaker 1: didn't have a good drive basically the rest of the
Speaker 1: entire game. Jason Peters, their left tackle, went out with
Speaker 1: what looked like could be a serious injury very late
Speaker 1: in the game. Uh. And the Patriots defense was probably
Speaker 1: the group I've learned the most about, just because they
Speaker 1: haven't played many even halfway decent offenses and to see
Speaker 1: them have a truly dominant performance against a good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Uh and the Eagles was encouraging. But you didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't feel any better about the Patriots offense after
Speaker 1: this game. It makes me think, and you guys seem
Speaker 1: to think that my happiness lives or dies on the
Speaker 1: Patriots winning or losing in November d entirely. But during
Speaker 1: the game, you were getting juiced, Like ten minutes left,
Speaker 1: You're like, this game is over right in the vibe
Speaker 1: in the room is effected. It will always it will
Speaker 1: I will always be rooting for the Patriots. Uh. To lose.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I watched this game and
Speaker 1: I continue now to watch his team as the schedules
Speaker 1: tighten up a little bit, and these will be famous
Speaker 1: last words, but it just feels like, I, you know,
Speaker 1: after what we saw with the Ravens, that the Patriots,
Speaker 1: they will handle teams like the Eagles. They will beat
Speaker 1: up on all the bad teams just because they have
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the best coach ever. But I would
Speaker 1: be if I was a Patriots fan, I'd be a
Speaker 1: little wet in the underpants with a fear of the
Speaker 1: new guard like a Lamar Jackson and even Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and maybe even a wild card team in this conference.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Patriots when I watched them, I
Speaker 1: don't think they scare anybody. Right, well, who's I've been
Speaker 1: saying that since Week two, that that it's it's it's
Speaker 1: not a great offense. I also don't think this part
Speaker 1: of the season is huge for them other than stacking wins.
Speaker 1: I just think they had this five game stretch. As
Speaker 1: a fan, I went into it thinking, you gotta get
Speaker 1: three out of those five. You start at Baltimore at Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: you're one in one, right, now if you want to
Speaker 1: get it by. Now, you'd love to get the one
Speaker 1: seed if you're the Patriots, But the big thing is
Speaker 1: is getting the by and so this is a big
Speaker 1: road win. The defense is coming together. I think Isaiah
Speaker 1: Wynn replacing the worst left tackler, one of the worst
Speaker 1: left tackles coming back Marshall new House at least gives
Speaker 1: you some hope. Well there, I mean, there were still
Speaker 1: plenty of plays where Tom Brady had guys in his face.
Speaker 1: I mean, he there was a lot of game I
Speaker 1: thought so too. Any that's they said at one point
Speaker 1: he had pressure up the middle, and you will make
Speaker 1: Tom Brady uncomfortable. Except it's true in this game because
Speaker 1: they were I mean they were creeping every quarterback ever
Speaker 1: they had eighteen yards. You have said, Greg that their
Speaker 1: line is an issue and that running the ball consistently
Speaker 1: is an issue, and today that that absolutely was the case.
Speaker 1: I think they just faced an eagle's offense that I
Speaker 1: think I fell asleep at my desk three or four
Speaker 1: times waiting offense to come. And and I don't want
Speaker 1: to referendum every quarterback either, but there were a couple
Speaker 1: of chances for Carson Wentz to write a completely different
Speaker 1: story along with the rest of the that can't blame
Speaker 1: his receivers for some of those throws on the final draw. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, the wide receivers are no treat in this
Speaker 1: aim either with Elshan Jeffrey out. I do wonder if
Speaker 1: the wind had the Brady and Wins just throwing different
Speaker 1: types of passes than they usually do, because they both
Speaker 1: threw five to six low scud missile skitterers that just
Speaker 1: looked bortles like as as you mentioned, Yeah, well he
Speaker 1: was sub Gaberg Gabbert's zone at four point six yards,
Speaker 1: so yes, so is Wentz pick up Jaguar's quarterback and
Speaker 1: compare him to Yeah, but Nelson Agilarum had a chance
Speaker 1: to come down with that ball and listen, you could
Speaker 1: say he should have had it, but that's not Nelson
Speaker 1: Aguilar's game, making great catches, contested catches that would have
Speaker 1: been in with yeah. So I while it was in
Speaker 1: some ways very perfect ball, though, and if he cracked
Speaker 1: it perfect well from the beginning, maybe it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: like this mean where he was at the end, where
Speaker 1: he's like forming a reverse sea with his body. That
Speaker 1: says no, I've tried that. That's sund easy, have you. Ah,
Speaker 1: there's such a need to just remake this this offensive
Speaker 1: playmaker group around wentz Um. I like, I like the
Speaker 1: young running back Sanders, but I think with and Arts
Speaker 1: of course is one of the best tight ends. But
Speaker 1: even with al Sean Jeffrey, there is there somebody on
Speaker 1: the on this team that scares you. Like a playmaking speed, right,
Speaker 1: they need speed. They just need to kind of boot
Speaker 1: them see a little bit here ERTs. But you know
Speaker 1: today and today here's my favorite stat because every time
Speaker 1: I looked up it was either third and ten and
Speaker 1: past going to Jordan Matthews who had one catch for
Speaker 1: six yards on six targets. I mean, they have a
Speaker 1: talent deficiency and it's not it's not excusing or absolving
Speaker 1: wentz who is not playing very well this year has
Speaker 1: been very on and off Um. But they need they
Speaker 1: need help, They need reinforcements. I think if you're the Patriots, though,
Speaker 1: style points they really just don't matter. Like this November stuff.
Speaker 1: If if you're just playing for Super Bowls, you want
Speaker 1: to have everyone healthy. They're getting a little healthier. They
Speaker 1: brought back nikkil Harry, their first round pick who did
Speaker 1: have one a few catches today? What was it? Three? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not much. You lose door set for the most part. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're actually getting healthier. Want you know, you get Matt
Speaker 1: la cospect. It's not gonna be like, here's the thing
Speaker 1: they want, here's the thing they They've won super you know,
Speaker 1: they won Super Bowls early on, and many teams have
Speaker 1: with weird days like today where their coaches do cook up,
Speaker 1: like one or two key players in the game. That
Speaker 1: just ends up being enough. And I think Patriots fans
Speaker 1: just gotta get used to that's what this nobody's panicking.
Speaker 1: I will panic when they're down right by forty points
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl because three didn't get the job done.
Speaker 1: So at they host the Seahawks. The Eagles do next
Speaker 1: week dirt nap game mark not not in the NFC East,
Speaker 1: because they also after that have the Dolphins, the Giants
Speaker 1: twice in the Redskins, so a bad team can make
Speaker 1: a late search. They have a nice schedule, all right,
Speaker 1: let us move up second down to eleven. Jackson will
Speaker 1: throw out of the shotgun. He's got Ingram five and
Speaker 1: he's in touch downright, blown coverage for sure by the Texans.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson saw marking from a wide open on the flat,
Speaker 1: and when Ingram got the ball, he knew he had
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Jerry Sandusky w b a l with the call.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson four more touchdown passes he had an eighty
Speaker 1: six yards on the ground, an MVP worthy showcase once again,
Speaker 1: helping the Ravens extend their winning streak to six games,
Speaker 1: a forty one to seven win over the Texans. Mark
Speaker 1: This was built as a showdown between two the great
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks in the league, right in our league. But
Speaker 1: while Deshaun Watson mostly ran for his life, Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: sword like a glorious Raven. Yes he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd say one of the upsets of this show today
Speaker 1: is that this is our third build game, because barring
Speaker 1: an absolute wipe out, which it was, it would have
Speaker 1: been up at number one. This was the clash that
Speaker 1: we were fired up about on Thursday and have waited
Speaker 1: for this. You were I was surprised that the confidence
Speaker 1: with which you were picking and absolute beat down by
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Well, I remember on my way home, I'm
Speaker 1: an uber. I'm thinking, you know, I'm gonna get bit
Speaker 1: on that one, I was. I came out all excited
Speaker 1: about the Ravens and it's probably gonna be one of
Speaker 1: these overtime things. But by the way, when said they
Speaker 1: should just be like, yeah, I know, I know, but
Speaker 1: that's that's not real because I honestly, I am kind
Speaker 1: of surprised. But the level of incompetence by the Texans
Speaker 1: in this game was somewhat stunning. And that's why when
Speaker 1: I look at the box score, if you just don't
Speaker 1: watch the game, yet, no one on either side of
Speaker 1: the ball on offense stands out. No one had two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. It wasn't a four hundred yard
Speaker 1: performance like Jimmy g and some of the others. It
Speaker 1: was Matt jude On. It was Don Wink Martindale and
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense that caused utter havoc right out of
Speaker 1: the gate for Deshaun Watson, and you could see right away.
Speaker 1: So this was a game where it wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 1: one of these ones that was over in five minutes.
Speaker 1: But the tone was set when Deshaun Watson on the
Speaker 1: first possession two minutes in, is doing one of his
Speaker 1: curates multiple figure eights where he's going in and out
Speaker 1: of Ravens defenders. You think he's going to escape and
Speaker 1: whip the ball to DeAndre Hopkins twenty five yards down field.
Speaker 1: Instead it is a strip sack. The Ravens go from there,
Speaker 1: And it really wasn't much later than the Ravens were
Speaker 1: up twenty one nothing on a beautiful catch and run
Speaker 1: by mark Ingram, who was uncoverable at put points in.
Speaker 1: This friend, my friend. They're tight ends there, running backs,
Speaker 1: everyone was doing it. This was basically putting the rest
Speaker 1: of the league on blast. I do believe at this
Speaker 1: point that the Super Bowl goes through Baltimore, not New England.
Speaker 1: And this is such a different looking football team than
Speaker 1: anything else out there right now, and the Browns fan
Speaker 1: of me has to just shed all preconceived issues with
Speaker 1: the Ravens because they're the most fun team to watch
Speaker 1: and they are dominant on another level. Right now. We've
Speaker 1: reached the point in the season where you can tell
Speaker 1: that the whole city is going crazy for this team
Speaker 1: because it's just that exciting to watch this team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's having everybody's having fun in and around the Ravens,
Speaker 1: even in extends the postgame pressers mark Ingram after another
Speaker 1: quality game. Uh, he does his thing and then Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is on deck at the press conference podium. And
Speaker 1: this is how the running backs set up the quarterback. Now,
Speaker 1: I would just like to introduce you to the man,
Speaker 1: the myth, the legend, the m v P front runner.
Speaker 1: If anybody else guts say something different about that, and
Speaker 1: come see me, I'm right here and be more outside
Speaker 1: the bank. If you got an issue with that, comes
Speaker 1: see me. I'm about the big trust woo, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: in the flesh. Yes, trust that It's funny, mad funny,
Speaker 1: and I like the Lamar even tried to follow it
Speaker 1: up by introducing Matthew Judean Uh with the next he
Speaker 1: didn't have quite the one thing because the reason, and
Speaker 1: if you have not watched this show, that we make
Speaker 1: fun of the fact that I went on this random
Speaker 1: off season trip to Obviously I'm not to make fun.
Speaker 1: Well it is it is, we have point fun at it.
Speaker 1: We don't make fun, all right, Well whatever we can
Speaker 1: deal with that. Later. I went to Italy and Germany
Speaker 1: on a USO mission. In mark Ingram was was along
Speaker 1: for the ride. And what I would say is that
Speaker 1: after dinner as a group of us in that, like
Speaker 1: he would order an ice cream Sunday, he would talk
Speaker 1: about the ice cream Sunday the exact same way, the details,
Speaker 1: Like he couldn't have been more excited about the chocolate
Speaker 1: sauce and stuff. So he's just that dude. Can I
Speaker 1: just say, was mark Ingram along for the ride or
Speaker 1: were you along for the ride? Ultimately at the us
Speaker 1: O Trip trip, I think it would definitively is up
Speaker 1: in the air. I mean you have to hear more
Speaker 1: about what happened on that definitively up in the air.
Speaker 1: The it's that surprising that the Ravens ran all over them.
Speaker 1: What do they end up with? Two hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: three yards? They are on pace to be the greatest
Speaker 1: running team in the history of the NFL, at least
Speaker 1: in terms of sixteen game schedule. What is more surprising
Speaker 1: is their defense and scary I think for the Patriots
Speaker 1: and Chiefs and the rest of the a f C
Speaker 1: if their defense can win games on their own so times,
Speaker 1: and that they keep getting better since they picked up
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters and they keep making changes. They benched uh
Speaker 1: Patrick Owasso, their their middle linebacker today, Who's again, I've
Speaker 1: really been struggling. Uh, and who you know, they they're
Speaker 1: tweaking it and it's all working. As you mentioned, Mark,
Speaker 1: Mark you there was, and we're gonna play the sound
Speaker 1: from Bill O'Brien in a moment. This is a blowout game,
Speaker 1: but he's furious about a past interference. Uh, that wasn't
Speaker 1: did you want to just yeah, thank you for because
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing where any time I was
Speaker 1: writing or tweeting about Lamar Jackson, Texans fans are saying
Speaker 1: this game is a ref manufactured nightmare, and I do.
Speaker 1: I will say this. It was the first It was
Speaker 1: an opening possession pass where DeAndre Hopkins. If you watched
Speaker 1: the replay, I would say that there were three separate
Speaker 1: arguments for past interference, to the point where they threw
Speaker 1: it to their ref analyst guy and he said, yes.
Speaker 1: The issue is when you're trying to challenge this and
Speaker 1: it goes to New York, it seems to hit some
Speaker 1: sort of robotics stone wall where they're unwilling to overturn.
Speaker 1: This would have been a clear cut example to overturn
Speaker 1: and it did change the game, but it's not the
Speaker 1: only excuse. MESSI as Hell, let's hear from Bob on
Speaker 1: that I don't know, John, I have no idea. I
Speaker 1: gotta watch the table. I have no idea. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea what passion
Speaker 1: appearances anymore, no idea. It's messed up, West, It's one
Speaker 1: and done. It's got to be because this is the
Speaker 1: This is like the prevalent takeaway on where we are
Speaker 1: right now. It's perfectly understandable that a referee would miss
Speaker 1: a call in real time, at real speed. It's inexcusable
Speaker 1: to slow a play down, show it frame by frame
Speaker 1: on your television to your audience, and then tell them
Speaker 1: they didn't see what they saw. I love the sport,
Speaker 1: but I don't love it when a legitimate sport forces
Speaker 1: me to view the proceedings through the prism of professional wrestling,
Speaker 1: which is how I view any time to go under
Speaker 1: the hood for replay, well said, all right, it is
Speaker 1: now time for road a victory presented by the United
Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. It's third down and seven at the
Speaker 1: Lions seventeen. Snap his back, they blitz, and he flips
Speaker 1: it out right. Elliott picks it off the ground. Ten
Speaker 1: tots left, dances in that's a touchdown and Elliott comes
Speaker 1: up doing his impression of the Prescott hip swivel warm
Speaker 1: up dance. Wow, that was a desperation throw and Elliott
Speaker 1: virtually made a one hand catch to keep the ball
Speaker 1: off the turf. Brett Sham. The sham got tear up
Speaker 1: my ears. I like it, Marry Marine corpl Lord, damn
Speaker 1: god Dak Prescott given ample time by his offensive line,
Speaker 1: and he rewarded their precision with four four yards of
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, taking the Cowboys to over the Detroit Lions. Greg,
Speaker 1: we know the Lions defense steaks. We know Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: ain't playing ball right now with the fractures in his back.
Speaker 1: Why is this game as close as it was? Because
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper isn't healthy, Because the Cowboys defense continued. You
Speaker 1: have a very mediocre season. But I still think it
Speaker 1: shows how this Cowboys team is different because with a
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper not playing a full compliment of snaps and
Speaker 1: the running game, and Zekiel Elliott not really doing that much,
Speaker 1: they have Michael Gallup to go off for nine and
Speaker 1: one in this game. They have Randall cop that make
Speaker 1: a couple of big plays for for one fift and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But Gallup, especially in this game, played like
Speaker 1: a number one receiver. I mean, he made plays in
Speaker 1: tight coverage, he ran great routes. He was doing it
Speaker 1: all and the past you would have an injury or
Speaker 1: two and the Cowboys would go caput. And now you've
Speaker 1: got those two guys, uh in a really balanced offense overall,
Speaker 1: in a better approach by Jason Garrett, who knew his
Speaker 1: defense was struggling even against Jeff Drisco, who played pretty
Speaker 1: well actually, and kept throwing the ball when they had
Speaker 1: a lead in the fourth quarter and even through the
Speaker 1: ball on second down to go ice the game instead
Speaker 1: of running at three times and punting and trusting his defense.
Speaker 1: So I am hoping that is Jason Garrett leaning into
Speaker 1: their passing attack, because that is what this team is
Speaker 1: all about. One of the reasons I was so excited
Speaker 1: about this offense entering the season was because you could
Speaker 1: tell by the way Michael Gallup was playing in August
Speaker 1: and September he was making the leap and then he
Speaker 1: went he had a nice scope in September, came back
Speaker 1: and was not playing with confidence, started dropping balls, wasn't explosive,
Speaker 1: It looks like he's back now and this still the
Speaker 1: best offense in the league by d v o A.
Speaker 1: I'm sure right, and they lose lyle Collins late in
Speaker 1: the game in Cooper's not You're still kind of waiting
Speaker 1: for them to be a hundred percent healthy, but they're closing.
Speaker 1: It's your point on Garrett. Jane Slater from NFL never
Speaker 1: reported that he held a meeting with the team and
Speaker 1: basically took accountability. They didn't say what for, but we
Speaker 1: could put together some dots in what it might be
Speaker 1: about the offense. Yeah, I think it was him being
Speaker 1: conservative last week because he was self critical that he
Speaker 1: leaned on the run too much in that game. And
Speaker 1: I meant to mention when I talked about death. Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard was huge in this game, four for forty four
Speaker 1: as a receiver, including a touchdown, but he made plays
Speaker 1: on his own. I mean, they have playmakers around Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: who is also playing great. It happens sometimes in the
Speaker 1: NFL with head coaches, even guys that have been established,
Speaker 1: there could be a come to Jesus type moment or
Speaker 1: just the light goes on, or for whatever reason, maybe
Speaker 1: if you're Cowboys and that's what you're hoping happens here
Speaker 1: because they have been since Zigela Elliott came to town.
Speaker 1: They're like, this is our best player, this is the
Speaker 1: engine of our offense, and we're gonna go through him.
Speaker 1: Perhaps West though, it's it's better to have a more
Speaker 1: open mind about how you had hacked the opponent and
Speaker 1: just be more aggressive in general, which has been a
Speaker 1: negative hallmark. If that makes any sense of the guard era, Well,
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is true, especially when Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott has overtaken Zeke Illiot as the engine driving this offense.
Speaker 1: Perfect and Dak has just had a phenomenal year. There
Speaker 1: cannot be critics anymore of the way he's played. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had him and I have to rank, you know
Speaker 1: the m v P cannets. I had him fifth going
Speaker 1: into this week. A lot of people thought that was
Speaker 1: what do you guys just go back and forth with
Speaker 1: the rearing of m VPS. It feels like it's every week. Really,
Speaker 1: I have to know every week, it's part of it's
Speaker 1: part of the debrief. But they he has to be
Speaker 1: that good because I would be concerned about the defense.
Speaker 1: It's not a good sign when Jeff Driscoll runs for
Speaker 1: fifty one in a touch. You know he should run more. Frankly,
Speaker 1: he passed on it a couple of times. Both Scarboroughs
Speaker 1: running through your defense. They ran in the red zone.
Speaker 1: The lines did pretty well. It was closer than it
Speaker 1: really should have been. But yeah, here's uh, we're worried
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys defense. Yeah, here's an unpopular opinion. You know,
Speaker 1: I've Jeff Drisco is playing on Thanksgiving. I don't totally
Speaker 1: hate it. I want Stafford out there, but Driscoll has
Speaker 1: got a little something. I still I would like to
Speaker 1: put it out there and and stone me if you wish.
Speaker 1: People of Michigan, you the ones that live by the lakes,
Speaker 1: but maybe we flex out the Lions going forward on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Tradition is great, and we're not going to take away
Speaker 1: your game in that week, the week twelve or week
Speaker 1: thirteen game, whatever, but we're just gonna slide it to
Speaker 1: Sunday and then put in something Marquis in that early
Speaker 1: game parade coming with me. That's all they have left.
Speaker 1: The family tradition you've had for thirty five years. Sorry, whatever,
Speaker 1: I just mean one particular grandparents who celebrated this, They
Speaker 1: basically added the third game as a permanent flex where
Speaker 1: you can wake up late or you can just get
Speaker 1: going early with the Thanksgiving party and maybe skip that.
Speaker 1: About a flex by the schedule makers, like this is
Speaker 1: our game, this is what we're gonna do. I I
Speaker 1: hear you. I'm with you. I can't in this one,
Speaker 1: all right? They Lions fans have been through so much
Speaker 1: that they can. I be honest. I I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's I love the Lions, even when
Speaker 1: they stink. It's a big part of the holiday. It's
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Everybody's having fun. But you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: think Jeff driscoll, or maybe I can see Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: at noon on Thanksgiving? That would be nice. Do I
Speaker 1: need to be a Lions fan? And it's not so
Speaker 1: much this year, but in you know, countless years past,
Speaker 1: the team is one in eleven and we're about to
Speaker 1: get waxed to ten on Thanksgiving. Maybe don't affect my
Speaker 1: holiday if I'm Alliance fan? Just another Why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: be honest the whole time? Though? Dan, you said you said, okay,
Speaker 1: if I'm actually being honest, because I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get some heat just I'm trying to couch it.
Speaker 1: But also, like my statement, nice floodlights into that stadium. Please,
Speaker 1: that was you have a lighting issue. There so many
Speaker 1: critiques they're they're artificial turf looks gray green like that
Speaker 1: is not a color that the facility. It's got a
Speaker 1: nice feel, old house quality to It's more green. Please
Speaker 1: more light. Do you hear that? People of Michigan? Thank you?
Speaker 1: And that was the road to Victory presented by the
Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps. And we move on. Set on
Speaker 1: the counter, gives off to Marlin. Matt cuts up field,
Speaker 1: patient run, spins out of a tackle going into the ten.
Speaker 1: He's at the five looking for the pylon, and he
Speaker 1: is touch down. Marlin. The best time you'll see all year.
Speaker 1: The cults are in. It's seven to six. It's calm down,
Speaker 1: on down. Mattie Taylor with the call for the Colts
Speaker 1: Radio Network, and it may be the last time you
Speaker 1: see Mac for a while. At the check in. Is
Speaker 1: a fractured hand left this game in the third quarter? Anyway,
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack and Jonathan Williams both went over one hundred yards,
Speaker 1: part of the Colt's best running day fifteen years thirty
Speaker 1: three to thirteen win over the Jaguars at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 1: The Colts piled up two sixty two yards on the ground,
Speaker 1: the JAG's offense unable to get much going in Nick
Speaker 1: Foles's return to the starting lineup. They it started great. Actually,
Speaker 1: their first possession, they go down the field full six
Speaker 1: of seven, a great little pass over the middle to
Speaker 1: d J h RK who takes it, takes it to
Speaker 1: the house and um, and away we go. We're off
Speaker 1: and running. But then the game just switched. It just
Speaker 1: flipped and Indie took over. And this has been an
Speaker 1: issue for the Jaguars, who are in very deep trouble now. Um,
Speaker 1: this has been an issue for the Jaguars at multiple
Speaker 1: points this season, an issue stopping the run. And it's
Speaker 1: not even the worst game they had the season. Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and the Panthers I think dropped to sixty eight
Speaker 1: bomb autum about six weeks ago. So they don't do
Speaker 1: a good job against the run, and they got into
Speaker 1: a situation where, you know, we talked about the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, who you know who's running the offense. Well,
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett is the guy that makes the Jack's offense go.
Speaker 1: He only gets five carries in the first half of
Speaker 1: this game, and by the time they fall behind, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna go back to him. So essentially you're playing
Speaker 1: a different style ball that you usually play. And the
Speaker 1: game just slipped away into the Colts credit. Uh, they
Speaker 1: get they they get Jacoby Brissette back. He doesn't do
Speaker 1: much in this game, but he stays on the field,
Speaker 1: he stabilizes the offense, and um, this is an important
Speaker 1: win and it sets up a huge game on Thursday
Speaker 1: night with the culture traveling to Houston. Who are the
Speaker 1: Jaguars going forward? The nick fools Jaguars, I mean they
Speaker 1: want they want to they want to get after the passer.
Speaker 1: They don't have a backbone on defense apparently. But if
Speaker 1: you're Tom, I mean Tom Coughlin probably sold to his owner,
Speaker 1: you know what type of team he wanted to have
Speaker 1: a few years ago. And I guarantee, I bet the
Speaker 1: words we're gonna run the ball, we're gonna be tough,
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop the run came out of his mouth.
Speaker 1: And then you play the Colts and you have twenty
Speaker 1: nine yards rushing and they rush for two, six, four.
Speaker 1: I know Leonard Fournette's season long stats look pretty good,
Speaker 1: but they go have and quarters at a time without
Speaker 1: running the ball at all. Well. I think that has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with the pairing of John d
Speaker 1: Filippo and Nick Foles, which was not in place when
Speaker 1: Kaughlin and crew hit the scene a couple of last year.
Speaker 1: They were away this run heavy, We're gonna run at
Speaker 1: all costs and it costs them right and Falls. You know,
Speaker 1: I was excited to see tough, tough opening spot for
Speaker 1: Falls Nation here there at four and six. They're not
Speaker 1: done in the division, but you're down two games now
Speaker 1: with a couple of division losses, and uh, you're in.
Speaker 1: You're in pretty big trouble. I do love the a
Speaker 1: f C South because it's just it's it's very messy
Speaker 1: in a fun way. Because you got the Colts and Texans,
Speaker 1: as I said, they're playing on Thursday night, great Thursday
Speaker 1: night game at six and four, the Titans hanging around
Speaker 1: at five and five, and then the Jaguars, who not
Speaker 1: feeling good about the Jacks at this point, but even
Speaker 1: they're on the property there two games out and they're
Speaker 1: in last place. So that I feel like there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of shifting and moving around in that
Speaker 1: division potential. I still liked the Texans even after today.
Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, my feeling because I was
Speaker 1: I was with you Mark on it, uh Weston and
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. But I thought that the Texans were catching
Speaker 1: the Ravens in a really bad time. Now it's fine
Speaker 1: and um, and that it was not going to be
Speaker 1: a good Sunday for them. Uh. But I also think,
Speaker 1: you know, throw it out. It feels like not to
Speaker 1: go back to the Texans, but it feels like with
Speaker 1: three weeks running, there's a playoff contender that just looks
Speaker 1: outrageously terrible. It was the Packers a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: last week it was the Saints. This week it's the Texans.
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to put too much stock into that
Speaker 1: with the Texans and writing them off, but the division
Speaker 1: feels definitely a lot tighter now that it did before
Speaker 1: kickoff tonight. Texans have a different ceiling than the Colts
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars. But the Texas have showed that floor,
Speaker 1: not today's floor, but a concerning floor more than once. Right,
Speaker 1: and they they this Colts team can say, Okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but Thursday Night football, we can sweep the Texans. So
Speaker 1: that essentially would would essentially be a two game lead,
Speaker 1: and so you're right, that's a massive game. I also
Speaker 1: while we were talking, got a message from the Ryan
Speaker 1: Pace Defenders Committee. It's a group that just like and
Speaker 1: then they said, they said, yeah, the membership base it's
Speaker 1: pretty big. And they said yeah, they said, hey, can
Speaker 1: anyone mention that the Jaguars drafted Leonard four Nette, you know,
Speaker 1: when they needed a quarterback. Everyone's killing me when I
Speaker 1: took Trabiski over Watson and Mahomes. You know, they take
Speaker 1: four net and Blake Bortles as their quarterback. They kind
Speaker 1: of blew that in retrospect. Good job by the Pace Committee.
Speaker 1: Pace Committee, Uh score big dub. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: like that. That's what Pace is doing during an actual
Speaker 1: Bears game that were He's not He's not part of
Speaker 1: the well's not a lot of fans. I also want
Speaker 1: to say, West, you are since you met Lakisha, your
Speaker 1: fashion sense has just gone through the roof. As we
Speaker 1: all know famously, Uh you say it's for an awakening
Speaker 1: on your part. Other people outsiders and critics say it's
Speaker 1: your wife that's dressing you, and you don't deserve as
Speaker 1: much credit. Would you like a true breakdown it can
Speaker 1: I get you, Let me finish my point, and then
Speaker 1: I want you to take the floor in this. But
Speaker 1: I just want everyone and when you rewatch this game,
Speaker 1: if you're not watching on condensed to check out t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton's gigantic black diamond necklace that he's wearing on
Speaker 1: the sideline for four quarters. It makes a Mr. T necklace. Uh, look,
Speaker 1: you know, frail and tiny by comparison West the floor
Speaker 1: is yours. Well, let me you know I've I've attempted
Speaker 1: to steer the narrative on this a little bit as
Speaker 1: you all have. Uh, let me go with complete candor here.
Speaker 1: It's harder to dress when you're overweight and you don't
Speaker 1: really care. But I dropped like seventy five pounds during
Speaker 1: cancer and I came back and close fit a little
Speaker 1: bit better. The cheaters diet, I call it. But but
Speaker 1: the pride, I would say, having Lakisha like just to
Speaker 1: hear a few words like no, I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: just during the week, and then you after a while,
Speaker 1: you start putting a few things together just because you
Speaker 1: hear it and then you feel confident enough to put
Speaker 1: your own clothing styles. What does that have to do
Speaker 1: with the aggressive rips in your upper thigh jeans tonight?
Speaker 1: I mean that's how they showing some nice Can we
Speaker 1: stand up? Can we get the camera shot here? Wow,
Speaker 1: they're not really at the upper THI yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but look up? Oh yeah, what was that mark? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh this one here current, but you got holes all
Speaker 1: over the place. Can you just camera one? Can you
Speaker 1: show them how high up it is on the thigh
Speaker 1: because it's aggressively. Camera one has never seen anything like this,
Speaker 1: I can promise you. Oh yeah, that's right here right there.
Speaker 1: I mean that is that's a little tease to the
Speaker 1: ladies paying yourselves with the vapors. All right, let's let's
Speaker 1: move on. That's why I watch the shows. Now, looks right,
Speaker 1: fires and strike down field put John Brown is the
Speaker 1: fifteen end of the endow touchdown touchdown Buffalo John Brown
Speaker 1: touchdown bills from forty yards out. A great throw by
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That was a laser throw by Josh Allen
Speaker 1: up the sideline to John Brown. And that is exactly
Speaker 1: what Bill Strands wanted to see. Take that Greg Rostal,
Speaker 1: John Murphy, and Eric Wood with the call for the
Speaker 1: Bills radio network, Josh Allen ran for a score and
Speaker 1: tied a career high with three touchdown passes. Take that
Speaker 1: Greg rose Atal, including that forty yard connection to Smokey Brown.
Speaker 1: The Bills rom thirty seven twenty over the Dolphins, ending
Speaker 1: Miami's two game winning streak. That completes a sweep of
Speaker 1: the home and home for the Bills, who are in
Speaker 1: prime playoff position at seven and three with six games
Speaker 1: to play. Mark it was nice to see the Bills
Speaker 1: actually hammer a team, which is what they did here.
Speaker 1: One thing that I specialize on if you're from the
Speaker 1: United Kingdom and you ever watched us on Sky Sports,
Speaker 1: is they have us on at the end of the
Speaker 1: first quarter of games. And I went on and defiantly
Speaker 1: announced that the big issue with the Bills as they
Speaker 1: cannot close drives. They're a field goal offense. There's a
Speaker 1: lot to be concerned about, and they're a looking like
Speaker 1: a six seed that's about to get bounced out of
Speaker 1: January play. They go on minutes later to unleash seconds
Speaker 1: later unleash the first of four long, many played touchdown
Speaker 1: drives that dropped a bomb on a Dolphins team that
Speaker 1: I also oversold as the best, one of the best
Speaker 1: coach teams in the league. So you know, sometimes things
Speaker 1: don't go right in the way that you viewed. We
Speaker 1: should maybe just stay quiet. And I know some behind
Speaker 1: the glass would agree as well. But this Dolphins team,
Speaker 1: they hang around, they had that ability, but they were
Speaker 1: overpowered today by I would say, I'm glad they used
Speaker 1: John Brown in that replay because John Brown is not
Speaker 1: someone that's gonna get a lot of talking points and
Speaker 1: pressed because he's just not a dominant player. But week
Speaker 1: after week for the Bills hundred and thirty seven yards today,
Speaker 1: nine receptions. He's been there for Josh Allen. We after
Speaker 1: week they went back to using Devin's singletary a bunch.
Speaker 1: I think that's an up and down thing that I
Speaker 1: don't see him as someone that you can count on alone.
Speaker 1: They needed Frank Gore to and the Dolphins offense they
Speaker 1: ran into issues. I thought that the Bills defense, which
Speaker 1: has some of their own UH concerns, gave Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: a lot of issues up at the line. Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: what looked a little bit beguiled at times, and this
Speaker 1: played out in the second half the way you'd expect
Speaker 1: the better team one. I don't think the Bills are
Speaker 1: thirty seven points a game team on by any stretch,
Speaker 1: but they flex their muscles a little bit today. I
Speaker 1: would imagine this is I will be a humbling experience
Speaker 1: on game pass. It'll be good to see them put
Speaker 1: up some points that they you know, yes it was
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, but they needed a game where they scored points,
Speaker 1: where they had touchdown drives, and more importantly, that where
Speaker 1: their pass where I showed up. I think to me
Speaker 1: that's been as concerning as in their their rush defense.
Speaker 1: Is anything going on with Josh Allen? Because you thought
Speaker 1: this defense was gonna be special at least everything I
Speaker 1: read and the stats certainly support that. Their pastors that
Speaker 1: they were getting after it. John seven Sex, John Brown,
Speaker 1: who has been at times one of the best deep
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL on pace for ninety catches and yards.
Speaker 1: Playing with a quarterback who cannot complete a deep pass,
Speaker 1: maybe you'll get hot, you know, maybe Josh Allen get hot.
Speaker 1: Maybe John Brown should have been the Eagles target not
Speaker 1: to Seawan Jackson. Can we talk about Francore? Yeah, getting worse.
Speaker 1: Now been over a month since he's averaged like over
Speaker 1: two point five yards perka. In fairness, he only gets
Speaker 1: the ball seemingly in third and one and fourth and
Speaker 1: one situations, and he always like gets stacked boxing. Old trope.
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. Have you watched the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. You're allowed to break through drag a few
Speaker 1: g's that one, that's how you average one or two
Speaker 1: yards for carry third and one stacked box. That means
Speaker 1: there's no safety. You can just keep cruising. Your defense
Speaker 1: system is weakening. Greg so Many wrote off Francore only
Speaker 1: three and a half years two earlier, right exactly. Frank
Speaker 1: Core's playing contributing role to US seven and three football
Speaker 1: team in the year. Give me a break the inconvenient
Speaker 1: roof what I call him? No, I respect for Frank.
Speaker 1: Everybody's got respect for Frank. I mean he's going to Canton?
Speaker 1: Is he he is? Sounds like a juicy offseason topic.
Speaker 1: We'll get there in the off season. All right, then
Speaker 1: let's move on. This is for all the money, Alan
Speaker 1: shot gun Snap, It's gonna paid. Right. How about how
Speaker 1: big junker Brocos. That's the funk he's talking to him.
Speaker 1: They put politivity and there the three of the season
Speaker 1: talk all the way back on a floppy Sunday from
Speaker 1: a twenty zero deficit, they tat together for Brockos twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty three. Paint the picture. Paul Allen with fat
Speaker 1: versus A think versus just went at a bush off
Speaker 1: and al did all the heavy lifting there. Vikings Radio Network.
Speaker 1: The Vikings wiped away at twenty to zip halftime deficit
Speaker 1: with touchdowns on each of their first four drives in
Speaker 1: the second half, then held off the Broncos by forcing
Speaker 1: three straight incomplete passes in the end zone over the
Speaker 1: last ten seconds. You heard the last one there. They
Speaker 1: preserve a twenty seven to twenty three win. West. A
Speaker 1: comeback of this caliber is always gonna be a team effort.
Speaker 1: But come on now, Kirkie Cousins led the way baby,
Speaker 1: check that box. Well, he's running out of dragons to
Speaker 1: slay here with last week beating a winning team on
Speaker 1: the road in prime time, and in this week, let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about the things that he accomplished in this game.
Speaker 1: They were down twenty to nothing at halftime, teams trailing
Speaker 1: by twenty or more points at halftime. We're oh in
Speaker 1: ninety nine. Over the last five seasons before that, the
Speaker 1: Vikings of the first team in forty years to score
Speaker 1: on every second half possession and win after trailing but
Speaker 1: twenty points at half time. They are doing some things.
Speaker 1: And this isn't a day where Dalvin Cook All Pro
Speaker 1: candidate stuffed could not go anywhere on the ground, Adam
Speaker 1: feeling out of the game, not playing, and Stefon Diggs
Speaker 1: not a target officially in the first half. This all
Speaker 1: happened in the second half. And let's compliment Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 1: Remember the nineteen eighties wrestling where you'd have I guess
Speaker 1: it's still in wrestling now. The curtain jerker he takes,
Speaker 1: you know, give him six minutes to kind of work
Speaker 1: the guy around and then you know he's gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton was giving four arms shivers, kicking him in
Speaker 1: the chest, a little pile driver action, just taking care
Speaker 1: of the entire Vikings secondary, specifically Xavier Rhodes. Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: is a man among boys and would not I would
Speaker 1: not have any problem with anybody putting him as the
Speaker 1: second All Pro behind Michael Thomas. Every week against good corners,
Speaker 1: he is making unbelievable catches and the Broncos emptied out.
Speaker 1: This was the old kitchen sinc Game. Empty out your
Speaker 1: bag of trick plays, your gadget plays, and they did
Speaker 1: in this game. And that's how that's part of the
Speaker 1: reason why they got this lead twenty and nothing and
Speaker 1: then they ran out of trick plays, I mean second half.
Speaker 1: Think about this day for the Broncos franchise. It starts
Speaker 1: with a report from CBS that the locker room is
Speaker 1: a little bit down on the Vic Fongio experience, that
Speaker 1: his gruff demeanor has led to some general unhappiness behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. And then you have what could be kind
Speaker 1: of not season season saving because the season's kind of
Speaker 1: gone already, but something that would really make you feel
Speaker 1: good going into Minnesota and shocking a very good Vikings team,
Speaker 1: and then for its end with losing your fourth game
Speaker 1: of the season essentially in the final seconds in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It has just been that kind of year
Speaker 1: for the Broncos, and uh, it would be very interesting
Speaker 1: to see what what happens with them going forward. They
Speaker 1: have some players to build around and Alexander Johnson, this
Speaker 1: guy that they put in their starting line up at
Speaker 1: the end of September at linebacker and his tree formed
Speaker 1: their defense had another big game today. Shelby Harris had
Speaker 1: a big game for them in the first half. They
Speaker 1: have some good things going for them. But you're right,
Speaker 1: it's just a series of heartbreaking close loss I mean
Speaker 1: that no one, no one loses a lead like the Broncos.
Speaker 1: But the crazy thing here was how little margin for
Speaker 1: error Cousins had. This is not a normal twenty point
Speaker 1: comeback or two touchdown come back. Not only did they
Speaker 1: score every possession, they had touchdowns on all four possessions.
Speaker 1: And you figure, Okay, well the Broncos, you know, offense
Speaker 1: let him back, get it. Not really, the Broncos offense
Speaker 1: only had four drives. They had a seven minute field
Speaker 1: goal drive they had. They had two other drives and
Speaker 1: that included a missfield goal they almost scored to win
Speaker 1: the game at the end. The Broncos actually possessed the
Speaker 1: ball for over seventeen minutes in the second half. It
Speaker 1: was just the Vikings. Every time they got the ball,
Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown as fast as they possibly could
Speaker 1: and put it back on them that's pretty impressive. Look
Speaker 1: at the Vic Fonio resume. It also includes a pretty
Speaker 1: disastrous second half against the Jaguars. Yes, it does a
Speaker 1: lot of disastrous can have right, Yeah, this is really yeah,
Speaker 1: And I know Brandon Allen is probably you know, you're
Speaker 1: you're holding You're holding the spot here for them for
Speaker 1: John Elway to go find go draft another quarterback that's
Speaker 1: almost gonna play soon. I would have to imagine Drew Lock.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what what the overall, what the scope
Speaker 1: is there, but Brandon Allen's mobility a couple of games
Speaker 1: in a row, because he did it against Cleveland too,
Speaker 1: and did it today. He had a big third down
Speaker 1: scramble that that bought them time. I know they lost
Speaker 1: the game, but it's not a I'm not killing Joe here.
Speaker 1: He just I think he gives this some another little
Speaker 1: element to their office. I agree. I think that he
Speaker 1: is a better fit for that offensive line than Joe
Speaker 1: Flecco was. This game was almost like the micro cosm
Speaker 1: of this entire Vikant season. In one game, you know,
Speaker 1: they go, they have the early struggles, and you had
Speaker 1: one moment where you could see Stefon Diggs was clearly
Speaker 1: upset on a play that Kirk Cousins had a free
Speaker 1: play but instead of going down the field, you know,
Speaker 1: threw it to the fullback, which is like the most
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins thing ever. On a free play, let's just
Speaker 1: get two yards. But then that's squeak. We all got
Speaker 1: the grace because Dig's had a long touchdown on one
Speaker 1: of their quick drives. Later in the game. He also
Speaker 1: had a thirty four yard play called back on a
Speaker 1: Tiki tach holding penalty he could have had over fifty West.
Speaker 1: You said that Mr Cousins is running out of dragons
Speaker 1: to slay. I got one for you, alright. I have
Speaker 1: it written down. Win a playoff game before thirty second birthday.
Speaker 1: That's fair. It's got more to do to prove himself
Speaker 1: as a true franchise leading quarterback when this division, so
Speaker 1: you put yourself in a in a chance to uh,
Speaker 1: you know, go far. In the love that Cousins narrative,
Speaker 1: he has played well enough to get everyone off his back.
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. Stop being like the
Speaker 1: Twitter go to joke. Does it does feel like people
Speaker 1: are off his back at this at least for now.
Speaker 1: And they lost today. That would not have been the
Speaker 1: case at all. Let us move out on Atlanta releases
Speaker 1: late on the Gunners. Right down the scene, Barnard back
Speaker 1: draps to the Kenyon three routes thirty thirty five. Barner
Speaker 1: forty fifty, has a block on the perimeter. He's only
Speaker 1: got the putter to beat Pollardi is tucked down and
Speaker 1: Barny scores touchdown Kenyon Barner and it is seventy seven yards?
Speaker 1: How sweet must that taste? The Kenyon Barner who used
Speaker 1: to play here, And this is just as pretty a
Speaker 1: term return as you're ever gonna see. Just a weaving,
Speaker 1: unbelievable return by Barner with a vision, got a few blocks,
Speaker 1: splits in the end zone. Oh yeah, the Kenyon Barner
Speaker 1: revenge gage West Durham and David Archer with the call.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're not seeing as many punt returns
Speaker 1: for touchdowns now. That was one of the best, if
Speaker 1: not the best of all year. The falcons are suddenly
Speaker 1: soaring high above the mountains. Well, Barner returned a punt
Speaker 1: seventy eight yards. Well, if you sit next to Greg
Speaker 1: you would feel that way to Okay, high above the
Speaker 1: mountains is illustrious. But he would turn that seventy eight
Speaker 1: yards just one of many highlight it's for the Falcons.
Speaker 1: Thank god this wasn't three. We don't like that number
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Three win over the Panthers in Charlotte. Greg
Speaker 1: makes sense of this for me. I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: have been making fun of me enjoying a team, you know,
Speaker 1: changing what everyone said about them, that they had given
Speaker 1: up on their coach, that they were unwatchable, like we
Speaker 1: we all just kind of took them for jokes. And
Speaker 1: they've come out and they've beaten the hell out of
Speaker 1: two teams with winning records of Saints and the Panthers
Speaker 1: on the road and back to back weeks. And it
Speaker 1: starts because he got a professional quarterback. On the first
Speaker 1: third down of the entire game, Matt Ryan sees exactly
Speaker 1: where the blitz is coming from with Ron Rivera, hits
Speaker 1: a slant to Calvin Really his slants to Julio Jones
Speaker 1: and and Calvin Ridley or is pretty times play as
Speaker 1: as any in football. And then he had three beautiful
Speaker 1: throws in this game downfield, one to Julio Jones and
Speaker 1: two to Ridley where the pressure is coming on him,
Speaker 1: he waits to the last second he throws that high
Speaker 1: arching pass and they gets down beautifully into his receiver's hands.
Speaker 1: And that was one of many reasons they don't in
Speaker 1: every phase. But he was awesome and he's killed Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera's Panthers every time he plays him. I mean, anybody
Speaker 1: that's watched this Falcon steam and it's been a tough
Speaker 1: season on balance, knows that Matt Ryan has never been
Speaker 1: the problem with I'm just trying to figure out still
Speaker 1: now is for eight games or whatever, arguably the worst
Speaker 1: defense in the league, complete lack of discipline and blown assignments,
Speaker 1: just getting destroyed week after week, and now against the
Speaker 1: last two weeks, as you said, against two playoff level teams,
Speaker 1: they've allowed four field goals and no touchdowns. They're looking
Speaker 1: pretty younger, aren't they looking younger? Apparently? I mean some
Speaker 1: of that when you know, apparently took place before the
Speaker 1: bye even but the yeah, the stats are are just rare.
Speaker 1: They had four turnovers forced in the first nine games
Speaker 1: of the season. They had four today. They had seven
Speaker 1: sacks in the first eight games. They have eleven in
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Desmond Truffont returns today and played
Speaker 1: really well. I don't think this is a playoff level team.
Speaker 1: I think the Panther No, no, the Panthers, Oh, of
Speaker 1: course the Falcons are. They're running through this NFC South.
Speaker 1: They have five straight games in the visit and they're
Speaker 1: gonna win all five. What's their record there? Three and seven?
Speaker 1: So that they're in, you gotta win out and get
Speaker 1: some help. A lot of defense is I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this the way coast falling into the sea. That
Speaker 1: would help. Like defense is there's something strange in the alchemy.
Speaker 1: A lot of it's about energy, right, And you could
Speaker 1: just watch the Falcons last two weeks and they have
Speaker 1: played with incredible energy and athleticism and the speed that
Speaker 1: you know, you think of when they put this team together.
Speaker 1: But you can and you could tell that performance last
Speaker 1: week against the Saints. The energy was so off the
Speaker 1: charts and they were having so much fun that it
Speaker 1: did seem to be the type of game that would
Speaker 1: either be our super Bowl and then they go back
Speaker 1: tomorrow or the start of maybe a big change. How
Speaker 1: the only problem here, Greg, the only reason why I
Speaker 1: don't it seems kind of pointless to really dig into
Speaker 1: the Falcons. When he was seven out of eight start
Speaker 1: the season. It's already too late. Yeah it is, but
Speaker 1: I I I want to watch them. At least they'll
Speaker 1: be more watchable if I'm a Falcons fan, I'm going Okay,
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris has been a defensive coach his whole career,
Speaker 1: made his name that way, and you had him stuck
Speaker 1: coaching wide receivers for eight games. Now he fixed your defense.
Speaker 1: Isn't that on the head coach for not having the
Speaker 1: coaches and the strangest Simon Eric Man Jennie did something
Speaker 1: like that too, But yeah, it's all brick on early downs,
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris on third downs, it's a lot, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Quins gonna save his job almost
Speaker 1: no matter what happens. But what this did was it
Speaker 1: pointed out that the Panthers to me, are not a
Speaker 1: playoff team in a deep NFC because what do they
Speaker 1: have that special? This is not a special Ron Rivera defense.
Speaker 1: And I think that that goes back to whether they
Speaker 1: keep Rivere or not. It's just an okay, Ron Rivera defense.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Is Kyle Allen morphin into Trevor Simeon before
Speaker 1: our eyes? Kyle Allen had four interceptions today and they
Speaker 1: were almost all just awful. Isn't like really really one
Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, and one of them Trufon made, if
Speaker 1: you watch the replay, made an incredible play that I
Speaker 1: give him a little credit. But the other three were
Speaker 1: just terrible and the rest of the game you kind
Speaker 1: of moved the ball. Allen didn't made some nice plays,
Speaker 1: but that the interceptions were brutal. Christian McCaffrey nine yards
Speaker 1: away from two hundred on the day, but I'm assuming
Speaker 1: a lot of that came because it's eleven through the
Speaker 1: air screen pass action when the team is down and right.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of in the catch up mode,
Speaker 1: but no even at halftime when it was the game.
Speaker 1: You know, he just gets these quiet twelve yard catches
Speaker 1: and ten yard runs. But you can't make an offense
Speaker 1: out of that. You can't make an MVP out of that.
Speaker 1: We talked about it downstairs, Greg and I did that.
Speaker 1: The problem with what makes it almost impossible to win
Speaker 1: MVP as running back is you can't really control the game.
Speaker 1: You can't what a quarterbright. It's beyond you talk about
Speaker 1: the narrative and Mark all the time with that, but
Speaker 1: it's also like the quarterbacks in control of the game
Speaker 1: in a way the running back never can be unless
Speaker 1: it's you know, Adrian Peterson two thousand, twelve or whatever,
Speaker 1: like the special special season. He's gotta have twenty nine
Speaker 1: touches and three touchdowns and then they win the game.
Speaker 1: By I mean, he's got a chance to break the
Speaker 1: all time record for yards in a season, which is
Speaker 1: a pretty wild record, you know, the yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 1: He's still I think he's a little buying base. But
Speaker 1: that's a rough turning point for the Panthers. State it's over,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Then let's move on again, and Winson
Speaker 1: throws it right to the Saints coming back Marcus Williams,
Speaker 1: the thirties, the twenty, the ten, the fun tock gon
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams. They're not gonna come a lot easier than that, dudes.
Speaker 1: Jamus Winston drops back to throw, sells it about ten
Speaker 1: yards over the head Mike Evans, and Marcus Williams brings
Speaker 1: it back for a score. Marcus Williams with his fourth interception.
Speaker 1: Loves the season. Uh, you gotta love the dependability of
Speaker 1: Jamis Wison's zack stripe deuce. McAllister. Saints Radio Network Marcus
Speaker 1: Williams removed with any semblance of drama from the proceedings
Speaker 1: on Sunday and Tampa intercepting Jameis Winston fifty five yards
Speaker 1: to the host, clinching score Saints seventeen win over the
Speaker 1: Bucks West. Drew Brees threw three touchdowns in this game.
Speaker 1: The Saints um the game maybe got a little closer
Speaker 1: than they wanted, but this, on balance was a now
Speaker 1: nice bounce back after last week's meltdown. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we can look back at that game against the Falcons,
Speaker 1: who are now the best team in the NFC South
Speaker 1: according to Gregent and say that was just a speed
Speaker 1: bump that they came right back. And and we've said that,
Speaker 1: you know, the first half of last year Drew Brees
Speaker 1: at the m v P starting with Thanksgiving of last year.
Speaker 1: Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas are the m v ps
Speaker 1: of this offense. Camara comes back and he's the He's
Speaker 1: the focal point again, whereas last week in his first
Speaker 1: game back from injury, he was almost in the afterthought.
Speaker 1: He makes this offense go and he was a huge
Speaker 1: difference early in the game. His numbers don't look spectacular,
Speaker 1: but he was the one doing the work early. Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas cannot be stopped. He was he was in edible,
Speaker 1: and Jared Cook had another big play. His stat line
Speaker 1: doesn't look great, but I think Jared Cook is coming on.
Speaker 1: Is that third option for them? And you know, Drew
Speaker 1: Brees a few more sideline creepers. The arm strength just
Speaker 1: isn't there, but he does enough even without the arm
Speaker 1: strength that this this team can still be a super
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. And you get through the NFC playoffs with
Speaker 1: Drew Brees at this point, I wonder that I just
Speaker 1: wonder that I have not I want to see more.
Speaker 1: First of all, just because he's barely played this year.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what four games. I want to
Speaker 1: see their offense with it more. They as long as
Speaker 1: they're functional. I mean, it's not like their passing game
Speaker 1: has been poor. Last week was a strange game with
Speaker 1: a lot of penalties in every you know aspect of
Speaker 1: their team struggling. I think the level of concern, at
Speaker 1: least for me, for Drew Brees is not that high.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's like a detriment to their team.
Speaker 1: Come on, no, I agree with that, I think, but
Speaker 1: he's just not I don't know if they're playing against
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson. Do I trust Drew Brees and at
Speaker 1: this point to keep up with Russell Wilson, I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. You don't think this guy can keep
Speaker 1: up in a shootout? I think in his building maybe.
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how many how many bubble screens,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know. I think it's about
Speaker 1: as deep a race for the buys in a conference
Speaker 1: that I can remember. Break it down well, at this point,
Speaker 1: you have the Seahawks, the forty Niners, the Saints, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and the Packers, and all of them have eight wins,
Speaker 1: right and yeah, I mean Vikings I guess have three losses.
Speaker 1: Of that group, but that that's a pretty deep group
Speaker 1: of teams that all have a chance for the one
Speaker 1: seed or you know, you follow the five. That's a
Speaker 1: big difference for the Saints. They have a huge advantage
Speaker 1: over the rest of that group because you can give
Speaker 1: them the NFC South right now, they're three games up.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna lose that. I know it's redundant,
Speaker 1: and so I'll keep it quick. But the Jamis Winston experience,
Speaker 1: I feel like he legit costs them five games the
Speaker 1: season with his stakes alone. You know, we're killing Kyle
Speaker 1: Allen for throwing four picks, as we should, but this
Speaker 1: happens over and over. How many four interception days did
Speaker 1: he have? He leads the league in these pick sixes.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's is killing you. He's got eighteen interceptions
Speaker 1: this year, the most through ten games in the season
Speaker 1: since Jake Cutler a decade ago. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: you watched this game. He was hit twelve times by
Speaker 1: the Saints defense. Um. The Buccaneers had their fewest rushing
Speaker 1: attempts and the forty four year franchise history, six for
Speaker 1: thirteen by their running backs. Well, I ran the ball
Speaker 1: only eight times today total, um, and Jamie has had
Speaker 1: some plays where the offensive line blocked. Fine, he had
Speaker 1: plenty of time and he just threw warm burners. I mean.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the interceptions, some of them were flukey.
Speaker 1: So I mean, but I think that's what interceptions are.
Speaker 1: When you throw enough of them, you're gonna have every
Speaker 1: different kind imaginable. The Winston eras come to an end,
Speaker 1: I think naturally. You know, they didn't give him the extension.
Speaker 1: They let him play on the fifth year option, and
Speaker 1: it's just run its natural course. And the Bucks makes
Speaker 1: so much sense as one of the teams is that
Speaker 1: will get one of these veteran quarterbacks. They that just
Speaker 1: seems like it's with Bruce Arians there. He's gonna want
Speaker 1: his Carson Palmer esque veteran that he could bring in.
Speaker 1: I just see them as being a natural team rather
Speaker 1: than going with a rookie. It could happen. I'm still
Speaker 1: just scratching my head about them giving their GM who
Speaker 1: you know, drafted Winston an extension before this season started. Well,
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians took the job because of Jamis Winston. He
Speaker 1: thought that this guy was a franchise quarterback in the
Speaker 1: NFC South. You know, we'll see if Drew Brees will
Speaker 1: probably come back, although you never know. At this point,
Speaker 1: he's over forty. Matt Ryan's not going anywhere in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But are the Panthers sure that they were still gonna
Speaker 1: just as speculation goes, let Cam Newton walk, is Kyle
Speaker 1: Allen the guy you're gonna trust, or they another team
Speaker 1: that will take one of these veteran quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: gonna be floating around. Could be a very different looking
Speaker 1: division with some familiar faces. I'm not comfortable with the
Speaker 1: way we left at Drew Brees conversation. I don't Greg,
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are gonna watch this and say, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a problem, he's an issue. This was an awful
Speaker 1: game from him. I'm just saying I don't trust where
Speaker 1: his arm is right now. I don't think it's off
Speaker 1: fis game either. Dread around Breeze not is like being
Speaker 1: washed up, but maybe not being a true difference maker
Speaker 1: like he used to be. I wouldn't say dread. It's
Speaker 1: just more that you can tell when you used to
Speaker 1: watch something special, which is Saints offense reliably was, and
Speaker 1: now I just don't see it as special. I see
Speaker 1: it as more limited, all right, Michael, Michael Thomas. Let's
Speaker 1: just he's special. Let's just mention it. He's up to
Speaker 1: nineties six catches. You know, we're a week and a
Speaker 1: half away from Thanksgiving. He has ninety six catches for
Speaker 1: eleven d and almost fifty yards right now. I mean
Speaker 1: his are gonna be He's on pace, but he seems
Speaker 1: to be careful. Michael. It's it's outrageous, and every team
Speaker 1: facing them knows that Michael Thomas is basically their only receiver.
Speaker 1: What's the record one? I know it's let's less than that,
Speaker 1: isn't it's one two. Let's just stay rights. I'm just
Speaker 1: not sure that's why those events occurred, That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: But that feels like a perfect spot to land. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. Oh before we move on, breaking news, we
Speaker 1: have a trade. We have a trade in our picks.
Speaker 1: Draft Mark Sessler sends Jets redskins to the old Zeuser
Speaker 1: in exchange for this game. You're about to get a
Speaker 1: highlight from So a little bottom of the draft sixth
Speaker 1: rounder goes back from the you know, seventh rounder and
Speaker 1: maybe put a nice hunter and return something like that.
Speaker 1: Let's hit it. Here's your third down from the three
Speaker 1: yard line. Car's gonna throw it, steps up, you can't
Speaker 1: find anybody open. He's gonna run with it. Say on
Speaker 1: me speak, He's got open diving zone touch scowss. What
Speaker 1: a move by Derek Carr and second rushing such out ever,
Speaker 1: Oh my, he went airborn. Everybody in a Raider front
Speaker 1: office holding their breath. Now, when your quarterback goes up
Speaker 1: in the air like that, we need that tune and
Speaker 1: Derek's so great awareness. You don't normally see this out
Speaker 1: of him taking off like that, but he wanted that
Speaker 1: touchdown so bad that he decided to go up on
Speaker 1: the one with nobody under him. I gotta gad he
Speaker 1: the helicopters baby has bread mustarder. Of course, I just
Speaker 1: looked it up. Eighty years old and turned eighty in May.
Speaker 1: That dude is having fun. He moved to the desert
Speaker 1: and he's having some fun. Okay, as he should. I mean,
Speaker 1: eighty year olds. They like the desert. They like going
Speaker 1: out there. They're like going to Florida. They're like going
Speaker 1: to you know, pomp Springs, Florida. Not a desk. Are
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, but I'm saying, like different
Speaker 1: places they like to go. Okay, Florida, the desert, it's
Speaker 1: very moist there. Like some generalizing Derek Carr, you heard it,
Speaker 1: rush for a touchdown, through for another just enough production
Speaker 1: for the Raiders to get by the still winless Bungles.
Speaker 1: Seventeen ten Mark the Raiders moved to six and four
Speaker 1: and are Chief's loss away on Monday night from first
Speaker 1: place in the a f C West Hababa. Well, you cat,
Speaker 1: you looked over after we made this trade a number
Speaker 1: of times and asked, you know, what's going on with that,
Speaker 1: uh Raiders Bengals game over there? It doesn't look too
Speaker 1: intriguing two interestry not exactly a barn ber and you're right,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. But if you're the Oakland Raiders and you're
Speaker 1: trying to recreate everything and you've got a really young team,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win a couple of games like this.
Speaker 1: And the Bengals played I thought, desperate football in the
Speaker 1: and it was one of the first games I thought
Speaker 1: where they were like refusing to go away. They kept
Speaker 1: hanging around and a Josh Jackson fumble and a Derek
Speaker 1: Carr interception helped them to do that. But the difference
Speaker 1: in this one, I thought was, and it shouldn't be
Speaker 1: a surprise. With Cincinnati's rather hideous offensive line, Max Crosby
Speaker 1: four sacks, I've on the day for the Raiders and
Speaker 1: that's been overthrost two games. A consistent, a consistent thing
Speaker 1: for them, and that's good. And they really also down
Speaker 1: the stretch. It was Darren Waller, it's Hunter went Renfro,
Speaker 1: It's Tyrolle Williams and two of those guys are rookies.
Speaker 1: They have the most productive rookie class in the NFL
Speaker 1: in terms of receiving yards, rushing yards, and touchdowns. And
Speaker 1: it shows up every week. And so there you go.
Speaker 1: Mike Mayhock did what ten years rental Network and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's a splashy higher but it's easy
Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, it's it's the different now that you're
Speaker 1: going to be responsible for these players. It could not
Speaker 1: have gone any better. It really cannot have got better.
Speaker 1: I'd say that some team should say grab Chris Wesley
Speaker 1: is a GM, because that's there's there's a high part.
Speaker 1: Even better, Take Daniel Jeremiah off our hands. And they've tried,
Speaker 1: the Bucks tried before they gave that time. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: time for a new challenge. Westling. Just offer him a
Speaker 1: lot of money leverage that baby. Yeah, I mean, as
Speaker 1: Musburger says, baby, it's weird because Crosby is clearly better
Speaker 1: as a rookie as a fourth round pick than Cleveland
Speaker 1: Furrel is, you know, the number four overall pick. Furrels
Speaker 1: really struggled two and so last week, you know, had
Speaker 1: had a better game, but it was really telling Paul Gunther,
Speaker 1: their coordinator. And this was a month ago. This was
Speaker 1: during the London game, more than a month ago. They
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, how are you doing? You know,
Speaker 1: how are you holding up? Not a lot of talent
Speaker 1: on this defense. He said, yeah, we don't have any
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers right now, but we've got a future one
Speaker 1: and that's Max Crosby. And it's pretty interesting that five
Speaker 1: games into Crosby's career, he's saying, that's the guy we're
Speaker 1: building around, a fourth round demon who just shows up
Speaker 1: every game. Are we to the point now I see
Speaker 1: Derek Carr went nine. No more caveats, no more reservations.
Speaker 1: We just all believe that Derek car is from now on.
Speaker 1: He's he's efficient in this offense. But I wouldn't go
Speaker 1: that far. He kind of like what Jared Goff was
Speaker 1: before this season, like a decent to good quarterback in
Speaker 1: a great offense for him. Yeah, I think I'm with
Speaker 1: Greg though where I'm not ready to I want to
Speaker 1: still see more. But he opened eleven of eleven. At
Speaker 1: one point he was fourteen for fourteen. After they had
Speaker 1: scored another touchdown, he ran one in. And he's not
Speaker 1: making killer mistakes and I think he's healthy. He wasn't.
Speaker 1: He has been through a lot on the injury front.
Speaker 1: He had a back injury, you know, which we we
Speaker 1: never know what that feels like. Gikianic people chasing you
Speaker 1: and tackling to the ground. Probably not great. Little little
Speaker 1: concerning though, this is this team the rate of analysis.
Speaker 1: We were excited to watch him because they've been so
Speaker 1: efficient on offense five point one yards per play. Last
Speaker 1: week was one of the worst offensive games against the
Speaker 1: Chargers and then seventeen points against the Bengals. They've come
Speaker 1: back to earth a little bit on offense. Uh Dr
Speaker 1: Chow is gonna be nervous, Mark after that breakdown, coming
Speaker 1: first corner, coming for the corner, the Chow corner. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I call him all the time. He does
Speaker 1: not necessarily answer the phone. I know, well, so that
Speaker 1: you know he's got that old rotary phone. That's just
Speaker 1: get a busy signal real quick. Was Ryan Finn as
Speaker 1: bad as his numbers? I get, you know, It's like
Speaker 1: I'm the last person that should comment on like Benching
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton at this point. But I don't understand what
Speaker 1: the overall mission is. I just don't get what the
Speaker 1: mission is because there's there's just not much that you're
Speaker 1: gonna get from this type of player that's any different
Speaker 1: than they reduced a version of Andy Dalness some degree.
Speaker 1: Pretty have our road to Greatness segment. We should have
Speaker 1: a mission to Nowhere statement segment with just the Bengals
Speaker 1: every week. I don't know if it's a help to
Speaker 1: their head coach either, So all right, let's close it
Speaker 1: out with the other side of that trade. Blockbuster in
Speaker 1: the newsroom. Donald in the shotgun belts who was right?
Speaker 1: Griffin type right, three receivers left, Donald back to pro
Speaker 1: looks left. Hastime fires one down the left sideline for Crowder.
Speaker 1: He's got it hard on and he's in. That's a
Speaker 1: Jit touchdown. Jamison Crowder comes back to his old team
Speaker 1: and for the third straight Dame Crowder is able to
Speaker 1: score Sam Donald or the fourth touchdown US in the game.
Speaker 1: That's a career high. Bob was shoosing with the call
Speaker 1: for the Jets Radio network. Sam Donald slaying ghosts in
Speaker 1: d C. Four touchdown passes, including that pretty twenty nine
Speaker 1: yard or some really nice touch on some of his passes,
Speaker 1: you guys will see or you won't, depending on if
Speaker 1: you've watched this game on the old game Pass, Jets
Speaker 1: seventeen win over the moribund Washington Redskins. Two wins in
Speaker 1: a row for the Jets, who blew out an opponent
Speaker 1: three days after Christopher Johnson publicly announced that Adam Gates
Speaker 1: want to be one and done in Gotham and this
Speaker 1: is what Gaze has. Like I said on Thursday, I
Speaker 1: didn't put too much stock into Johnson's statement that Gaze
Speaker 1: will definitely be back in because what if they completely
Speaker 1: go in the tank for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a much harder call and a much
Speaker 1: harder sell to your fan base, uh, in that situation.
Speaker 1: But you know, after a game him like today, you
Speaker 1: start to think, Okay, maybe they can go into the
Speaker 1: offseason with a little bit of hope and excitement, because
Speaker 1: if you recall last December, Donald's hot finish is part
Speaker 1: of the reason why there was a lot of expectations
Speaker 1: around the Jets entering this season. And for the second
Speaker 1: straight week, he's really um, he's really showing some growth
Speaker 1: and progress. And he had one more turnover today which
Speaker 1: was a bad interception, So it wasn't a perfect game,
Speaker 1: but you take that out of the mix, and he
Speaker 1: really has kind of recovered from that. Really one to point, well,
Speaker 1: it was one to three punch account the motto, and
Speaker 1: then the game against the Patriots, the ghost game, and
Speaker 1: then uh Jack the Jags game back to back where
Speaker 1: he just was having trouble protecting the ball, wasn't getting
Speaker 1: any um, he wasn't getting any help from his offensive line.
Speaker 1: But he seems to be playing with some confidence and
Speaker 1: that's really good to see. So Donald was very good
Speaker 1: in this game. And the Redskins are very very hand.
Speaker 1: This is a very bad Washington team. How did Haskins look? Haskins,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give him credit for this. He had
Speaker 1: one very pretty deep all that showed, um his arm strength,
Speaker 1: that all the arm you want, Yeah it and it
Speaker 1: went for a completion, but I got called back on
Speaker 1: a holding penalty. In the fourth quarter, they scored two
Speaker 1: touchdowns and garbage time. It was up to thirty four
Speaker 1: three before they scored, but they hadn't scored a touchdown
Speaker 1: at sixteen quarters sixteen quarters before those two garbage time scores.
Speaker 1: In general, um, and this is never a popular sentiment
Speaker 1: in this room. And I understand that he's not maybe
Speaker 1: a guy that you ever want to root for, but
Speaker 1: Greg Daniels is Greg Williams has done a really good
Speaker 1: job with his Jets defense. They're one of the best
Speaker 1: teams in the league against the run, and they have
Speaker 1: such a talent deficiency in their secondary and yet on
Speaker 1: a near, you know, weekly basis, they are competitive on
Speaker 1: defense and they I think confused Haskins quite a bit
Speaker 1: in this game. So Haskins here, that's good to hear.
Speaker 1: I don't care cares about the Patriots, Patriots winning, upsetting.
Speaker 1: Just give me my favorite team winning, and I'm a
Speaker 1: okay on a Sunday. They're on a winning street right now,
Speaker 1: are you okay? Give a give a hack, give a
Speaker 1: good hack. I think you can see why I traded
Speaker 1: this game away, and it even happened minutes into the game,
Speaker 1: because this is your time to shine, Dan, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad that they went your way today. Darnald through an
Speaker 1: awesome passed right on the gate to Daniel Brown the
Speaker 1: tight end. Two things I found quizzical. One when they
Speaker 1: ran the ball to Levy on Bell on third and eleven.
Speaker 1: Why there's just no reason to do that in a
Speaker 1: situation they were. Secondly though, Secondly though, explain to me,
Speaker 1: unless I saw this wrong, why is Darwell Loggins carrying
Speaker 1: around the challenge flags for Adam Gates. Yeah he does,
Speaker 1: but explain to me what the what it's He said
Speaker 1: he likes to have someone else holding it. That's all
Speaker 1: I can so that to me, it feels like start
Speaker 1: like part of the little works to Adham Gaze that
Speaker 1: like because it in Miami, to the whole the whole
Speaker 1: time he was a Dolphins coach. He never he carried
Speaker 1: his own. He knows more than I do, but it
Speaker 1: just seems like a like a middleman, unnecessary middleman. Do
Speaker 1: you want to go back to that third and eleven
Speaker 1: draw and the second now? No, no, I do not,
Speaker 1: But it well, it was, it was, It was. It
Speaker 1: was the fourth quarter. It was a total hot mess.
Speaker 1: They don't need to do that. No, I mean, that
Speaker 1: was a hard call. I thought it was earlier than that.
Speaker 1: It was the second quarter, was in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: But my point, my point is it's been such a
Speaker 1: before entering last week, the Jets ravaging twelve points a
Speaker 1: game on offense, there is some real growth. You throw
Speaker 1: out that was a bad play call, but there's been
Speaker 1: some real growth the last two weeks, and that's what
Speaker 1: that's what you need. You need to see positivity on
Speaker 1: that offense. But and on the other side, this was
Speaker 1: a moment that the Washington Post wrote about and thought
Speaker 1: it was the lowest moment that the Redskins have hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Thomas Boswell, who was kind of the and I get
Speaker 1: it though it's half the stadium's half empty. There was
Speaker 1: a chant at one team at one time to sell
Speaker 1: the team, but it just sort of died out because
Speaker 1: there's there's no one there. There where tickets available in
Speaker 1: the Lower Bowl, which our friend Will Blackman, you know,
Speaker 1: tweeted out before the game for like ten fifteen bucks
Speaker 1: in twelfth row NFL game, and no, no one's going
Speaker 1: to it. And this is one of the the franchises
Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is a team that won three
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, that had if a tradition that goes you
Speaker 1: know back, and it hasn't all It's been ugly a
Speaker 1: lot of the time too, if you go go way
Speaker 1: back with it. But they have a long tradition and
Speaker 1: they're they're they're dying in Washington. I mean that city
Speaker 1: is given up on them. They are there behind. You know,
Speaker 1: they're the fourth or fifth team in Washington right now,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about. A who some of
Speaker 1: the other our teams are there, but who you know
Speaker 1: that the Redskins. When we talk about the fan basis
Speaker 1: that been through a lot of pain, Dan like, the
Speaker 1: Redskins need to be their fans have been through so
Speaker 1: much it's insane, Lions, Browns. Yet the Redskins are right,
Speaker 1: it's gotten a lot worse. I feel like in the
Speaker 1: last several years where it's the hope is just starting
Speaker 1: to just dissipate for them. Right now, I feel like
Speaker 1: they are at their lowest point. There was a little story,
Speaker 1: you know, within that column he mentions, how you know,
Speaker 1: the kick returner at one point turns around. He tries
Speaker 1: to get the fans to get up, and they just
Speaker 1: ignore him, and then eventually like three people stand up,
Speaker 1: and that's that's where they're at A long time wild
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been since r G three's knee injury.
Speaker 1: It's just been well. They got to the playoffs once
Speaker 1: with Cousins. They've made the playoffs a couple of times
Speaker 1: a century. But I would put them and I think
Speaker 1: the win loss record would be there among the worst
Speaker 1: teams certainly since the turnout of with with a low
Speaker 1: hope quotient because of who's running the team right now,
Speaker 1: right and you haven't seen enough. Haskins has only started
Speaker 1: three games, but it's been pretty shaky. West. You're a historian,
Speaker 1: you'll want to know this. Jamal Adams became only the
Speaker 1: second defensive back in the past ten years is to
Speaker 1: record three sacks in a game. Wyle I saw that
Speaker 1: he has the same number of sacks as Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: this year, and he's got six. He can break the
Speaker 1: outtime records for defense of He was not. But that
Speaker 1: was before before they dangled into trade talks and became Superman,
Speaker 1: before last week when he stuffed the box school and
Speaker 1: today haven't exploded. All right, that that's that for that game.
Speaker 1: Let us now get into it to Sunday night. And
Speaker 1: now GOP wants to go no huddle from the five
Speaker 1: first goal with Malcolm Brown behind him. They give to
Speaker 1: Brown straight ahead. He charges in for six clucks down
Speaker 1: a three one to go in regulation. The Rams take
Speaker 1: it back to a two store league. Even our old
Speaker 1: buddy J. B. Long seems just relieved that Malcolm Brown
Speaker 1: found that end zone to put some distance between the
Speaker 1: Rams and the lowly Chicago Bears. Yes, a seventeen seven
Speaker 1: gonna win for the home team at the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Memorial Colisseum, a game that Mark Sessler will be remembered. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we will be remembered as a
Speaker 1: w for the Rams and they move on, uh and
Speaker 1: for the Bears. That what people will be talking about.
Speaker 1: With three minutes to play, Chase Daniel entered. Mitch Drobinsky exited. Officially,
Speaker 1: it was listed as a hip injury, but that's only officially.
Speaker 1: Is this the beginning of the end? That's that's the
Speaker 1: talking point for a lot of people coming out of
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. At the beginning of the end for
Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinsky has been beginning for a while. I don't
Speaker 1: think that something suddenly turned tonight because it wasn't like
Speaker 1: a low point Mitch Robinsky game. In general, the offense
Speaker 1: is plagued with issues. They have not had a running
Speaker 1: game around him for weeks and weeks. There are drops
Speaker 1: happening by wide receivers. The environment around Miss Robinsky is
Speaker 1: not optimal. And I I do if if for some
Speaker 1: reason we found out the injury. He is not nearly
Speaker 1: as serious as as or at all. The timing of
Speaker 1: the switch is something that just creates a week's worth
Speaker 1: of questions for your team. When you didn't insert that,
Speaker 1: You didn't insert a first round quarterback that's been on
Speaker 1: the bench. You inserted Chase Daniel, who is not going
Speaker 1: to hold anyone off. So it just creates issues for
Speaker 1: the Bears. We'll see who gets bench for three minutes
Speaker 1: to play. That's what I mean. The timing is altho.
Speaker 1: It would have the benching would have happened earlier if
Speaker 1: the Rams had gotten off the field. I think the
Speaker 1: context is Mitch Drabinsky and look, I don't doubt that
Speaker 1: he's playing through an injury. They said he was on
Speaker 1: some level, But the reality is in his previous five
Speaker 1: drives three and out, three and out one first down,
Speaker 1: that a punt three and out when they punted the ball.
Speaker 1: They had been going back and forth punt fest. Is
Speaker 1: a three point game, there's eight minutes to go. You
Speaker 1: assume that's when he makes the decision to make a change.
Speaker 1: So that's thinking, I can go win this game. Our
Speaker 1: season is hanging on a thread, and I trust Chase
Speaker 1: Daniel more right now than Mitchell Robinsky. Now that bears defense,
Speaker 1: it should be mentioned, does what they've done in some
Speaker 1: big spots this year, which is give up a touchdown
Speaker 1: drive at the absolute worst time. You can't kill them
Speaker 1: because they forced punts, they forced two takeaways in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, and the offense didn't do anything. But it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of a script we've seen for a while,
Speaker 1: and I've been waiting to see Chase Daniel for a
Speaker 1: while because I think they're just saying this is not
Speaker 1: our guy. Drabinsky. What a deflating season for that organization.
Speaker 1: I think the most deflating season of any organization. To
Speaker 1: go from Super Bowl contender, you give up the farm
Speaker 1: from for Khalil Mack, you have the coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: a finalist for Executive of the Year, and now ten
Speaker 1: months later, you might have to start all over at quarterback.
Speaker 1: You might have to start all over at coach, you
Speaker 1: might have to start all over at GM and the
Speaker 1: Raiders on your first round pick forgot about which makes
Speaker 1: them we That's a good point West and I was
Speaker 1: I talked about earlier about which teams in the NFC
Speaker 1: South perhaps would be um teams you look at that
Speaker 1: might get one of these many veteran quarterbacks on the market.
Speaker 1: The Bears, especially without a first Tom pick, they might
Speaker 1: be looking for a stop gap and Andy Dalton type
Speaker 1: player or Andy Dalton himself. Who knows. But it's now
Speaker 1: becoming increasingly clear. And we're doing this obviously Sunday night,
Speaker 1: twenty minutes after the guy went to the bench, so
Speaker 1: we'll get a clear picture of what's going around around
Speaker 1: that team. But just from where we are now, it
Speaker 1: certainly seems like this is the first real tangible step
Speaker 1: towards a separation of Trabinsky and the Bears. And give
Speaker 1: the Rams defense credit. They did what you need to
Speaker 1: do against a bad offense, and that's just totally hold
Speaker 1: them down because the Rams offense wasn't much better for
Speaker 1: most of the game. But Golf and Gurly made enough
Speaker 1: plays in this game. Golf had about two or three
Speaker 1: nice throws. He only had six total in the first half,
Speaker 1: and you got the win. If you're a Rams like
Speaker 1: you don't care how you're getting wins these days. They
Speaker 1: are in the mix, and I don't totally rule them
Speaker 1: out because their defense is good. And if you were
Speaker 1: a total homer. You could say the old line made
Speaker 1: some big steps today. They blocked well for Todd Gurley,
Speaker 1: and they protected well for Jared Goff. You just haven't
Speaker 1: seen any games like that out of the Rams. But
Speaker 1: that's like picking the most positive things in a pretty
Speaker 1: right I just say, you don't rest for long. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were looking at the schedule coming into this recap
Speaker 1: here Ravens next week, if you're the Rams at the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: which is no, this is not last year and it's
Speaker 1: not Week three, this is not an easy team to
Speaker 1: knock out Seahawks, Cowboys, forty Niners and the Cardinals. Again,
Speaker 1: if the Rams are are even alive for a playoff
Speaker 1: berth in Week seventeen, the negative things that I feel
Speaker 1: about them right now will have washed away because they
Speaker 1: will have earned that big time. Their defense has not
Speaker 1: allowed more than ten points in a game, and over
Speaker 1: five weeks. It's a really good defense, and they have
Speaker 1: one of their best run defenses in the history of
Speaker 1: their franchise. It's the best Wade Phillips defense in the
Speaker 1: three years. It's it's ironic because it's coming with obviously
Speaker 1: the worst offense. But it's crazy to look at the
Speaker 1: Bears box score. Though they ran seventy four plays, not
Speaker 1: one of them went for twenty yards. That's stuff to
Speaker 1: do in the NFL. Seventy four play is they held
Speaker 1: the ball quite a bit. And and this was a
Speaker 1: typical Rabisky game and that okay, it wasn't his worst game,
Speaker 1: but he was in decisive There were throws in the
Speaker 1: first half. War he's always a beat late, you know,
Speaker 1: he has guys open and he's just kind of a
Speaker 1: beat late. He has to see it and then the
Speaker 1: play isn't there anymore. And Jalen Ramsey especially close. One
Speaker 1: quick thing this week before we fly off on the
Speaker 1: Rams defense, I get they are playing well. That the
Speaker 1: ten point thing happened against the Bengals, Steelers and Bears.
Speaker 1: It's just you couldn't line up a better option for
Speaker 1: that to happen. Todd Gurley nearly gets his first one
Speaker 1: yard game. I was my big takeaway if you're looking
Speaker 1: for positives beyond the defense for the Rams is a killer.
Speaker 1: I mean, a team that really needed a big play
Speaker 1: to get excited about. They get the fifty one yard
Speaker 1: touchdown from Goff to Reynolds in the fourth quarter, wiped
Speaker 1: out by a really a clumsy illegal procedure with Whitworth
Speaker 1: being uncovered at the left tackle position. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: what how do they respond to set of going into
Speaker 1: a shell? They go six plays and fifty four yards
Speaker 1: down the field to get that touchdown back seventeen seven.
Speaker 1: So they are far off. It was around this time
Speaker 1: last year that they won fifty three or whatever against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It's crazy how far we've come uh since then.
Speaker 1: And they have a lot of work to do. But
Speaker 1: they're six and four. That's in the NFC. That's not
Speaker 1: a great place to be, especially with that schedule. But
Speaker 1: they have a chance to save this things to remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I said earlier in the pocket Cardinals, that's
Speaker 1: a great match up anytime you have it. To the
Speaker 1: schedule makers, we don't need another Bear's Rams Sunday Night
Speaker 1: special next year. You know, let's let's not make this
Speaker 1: a tradition. You were warned. All right, Um, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's the Sunday Night recap. UH. Two quick things. Number one,
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