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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Drinks it's coffee black. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by the United

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Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. My name is Dan hands as I'm

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Speaker 1: joined and were filled with heroes Mark Secler, Chris Wessling,

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is our boys? Good energy? Good energy?

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Speaker 1: Right now? I feel like a flat Sunday and so Hands,

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Speaker 1: this is bringing the energy. Gotta do it. Good leadership.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not the Sunday that we all dreamed of, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it was still football. It's fun and it

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Speaker 1: was free to the people. I didn't hate this Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Is that this that the no I did wisdom here?

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Speaker 1: It was just like the big games? What didn't have

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Speaker 1: a black check moments? It was just it was fine,

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Speaker 1: It was good. It checked a lot of boxes that

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Speaker 1: it's almost over. That's good. Let's talk about it. Mark.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you the floor real quick before we get

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Speaker 1: into anything. Um the Cleveland Browns. What happened on Thursday?

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Speaker 1: In my mentions? My mentions were flooded with people saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hear from Sessler. We'll give you the

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Speaker 1: floor for thirty seconds right now to address the fiasco

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. It was as a very uh Cleveland type win.

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Speaker 1: You've finally beating the Steelers for the first time in

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Speaker 1: five years. Your quarterback played the cleanest game he's played

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Speaker 1: to some degree during a messy season, and all anyone

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Speaker 1: can talk about is a and a controversy that feels

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Speaker 1: like it was spun from the dreamlands of Dave damashek

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Speaker 1: so you know it's it's it's talking about checking all

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Speaker 1: the boxes I could not. I've stayed off Twitter ever since.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to interact about it. We all saw

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Speaker 1: what it was, and you know we won't be seeing

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Speaker 1: Myles Garrett for many, many moons, many months in a row.

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Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway there was just damas Twitter accountants on your radar.

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Speaker 1: I interact, I interact happily with a million times, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, I don't need to go on and on

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Speaker 1: about it. You know it was. It was a bombermark.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was hard to draw up a win

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Speaker 1: that produced less enjoyment for you. Yeah, it's It's reminded

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Speaker 1: me of the Jets win on on Monday Night when

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Speaker 1: I was essentially and not because of Dan, but you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to celebrate that game either, because the Jets

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Speaker 1: had like three professional players on the field. It was

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Speaker 1: just like this season is mostly a bummer. And just

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Speaker 1: to tie it all together, Myles Garrett broke Trevor Simeon's

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Speaker 1: leg in that game as well, So there is a

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Speaker 1: bee line here. It's all been building up to that. Um,

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Speaker 1: we'll get it more into that perhaps during the week,

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Speaker 1: but um, we have some football that occurred on Sunday

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Speaker 1: to talk about. Um, And uh, I'm excited, you know, Greg,

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Speaker 1: even when there's not major, major subplots in all time games,

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Speaker 1: you love all football games. So this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fun hour. I'm gonna have a great time, all right.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we start with the game that had

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Speaker 1: probably the most excitement per minute. Let us head to

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Speaker 1: the big barrel bottom or he runs jetside, He's got

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Speaker 1: a turn, Tim touched out, Fred Siscow, zero blaidh kitchen

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Speaker 1: touchdown machine. Jeff Wilson goes up over his head, collects

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Speaker 1: the rock and rolls. Excellent call by Greg Poppa and

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Speaker 1: Tim Ryan of the forty Niners Radio network. There's the energy.

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Speaker 1: We got it from that team. Jimmy Garoppolo beat the

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Speaker 1: blitz found Jeff Wilson Jr. Who gathered the past bass

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Speaker 1: with thirty one ticks to play the decisive score in

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Speaker 1: the niners thirty six win over the Cardinals. West Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray and the Cards pushed the first place Niners to limit.

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Speaker 1: But it's called a gut chet win, gut check win

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Speaker 1: for San Francisco. Yeah, you want to play with fire, Scarecrow,

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Speaker 1: send your zero blitz. Jimmy G hitting the game winner

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Speaker 1: right there? Uh, what's crazy about this? Jimmy G throws

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Speaker 1: three quarters. He had four yards going into the second quarter,

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Speaker 1: He also threw two red zone interceptions. But before I

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Speaker 1: like the mistakes, the yard and just a wild shootout performance,

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's you know, you're playing a division rival two

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Speaker 1: what Shanahan wants to do. And now you place the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals two times in three weeks, that's tricky. But I

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Speaker 1: don't mind. You know this, this Cardinals forty nine. Some

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Speaker 1: teams they just match upgrade have this team. These teams

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Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan and there was reason for depression early

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Speaker 1: point in the year where records, aside, whatever's happened aside

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Speaker 1: Steelers and Browns. How about you knock them out too.

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Speaker 1: This is a berserker team that can cause damage in

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Speaker 1: With the Cardinals, I think they're feeling really good right now,

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Speaker 1: You would get to four six and one the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: swarming in that building. The positive vibes not quite at

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Speaker 1: And it's a huge win for the forty Niners. Because

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Speaker 1: you lose this game to the Cardinals, that's a division loss.

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Speaker 1: You've already lost to Seattle, You've got the Saints, You've

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Speaker 1: so tough that you couldn't afford this loss. Next three games, Well,

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Speaker 1: in your whole family's going down. Zolak. The Patriots Radio

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Speaker 1: final forty two minutes of game time. Patriots win. Greg

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and I mean no disrespect. Was blame Gatherett

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Speaker 1: tough matchup. It was windy, as Tony Romo pointed out

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Speaker 1: just say, was mark Ingram along for the ride or

427
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: were you along for the ride? Ultimately at the us

428
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: O Trip trip, I think it would definitively is up

429
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: in the air. I mean you have to hear more

430
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: about what happened on that definitively up in the air.

431
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: The it's that surprising that the Ravens ran all over them.

432
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 1: What do they end up with? Two hundred and sixty

433
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: three yards? They are on pace to be the greatest

434
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: running team in the history of the NFL, at least

435
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: in terms of sixteen game schedule. What is more surprising

436
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: is their defense and scary I think for the Patriots

437
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: and Chiefs and the rest of the a f C

438
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: if their defense can win games on their own so times,

439
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: and that they keep getting better since they picked up

440
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters and they keep making changes. They benched uh

441
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Owasso, their their middle linebacker today, Who's again, I've

442
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: really been struggling. Uh, and who you know, they they're

443
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: tweaking it and it's all working. As you mentioned, Mark,

444
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Mark you there was, and we're gonna play the sound

445
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: from Bill O'Brien in a moment. This is a blowout game,

446
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: but he's furious about a past interference. Uh, that wasn't

447
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: did you want to just yeah, thank you for because

448
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing where any time I was

449
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: writing or tweeting about Lamar Jackson, Texans fans are saying

450
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: this game is a ref manufactured nightmare, and I do.

451
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: I will say this. It was the first It was

452
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: an opening possession pass where DeAndre Hopkins. If you watched

453
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: the replay, I would say that there were three separate

454
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: arguments for past interference, to the point where they threw

455
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: it to their ref analyst guy and he said, yes.

456
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: The issue is when you're trying to challenge this and

457
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,479
Speaker 1: it goes to New York, it seems to hit some

458
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: sort of robotics stone wall where they're unwilling to overturn.

459
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: This would have been a clear cut example to overturn

460
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: and it did change the game, but it's not the

461
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: only excuse. MESSI as Hell, let's hear from Bob on

462
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: that I don't know, John, I have no idea. I

463
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: gotta watch the table. I have no idea. I don't know.

464
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea what passion

465
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: appearances anymore, no idea. It's messed up, West, It's one

466
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: and done. It's got to be because this is the

467
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: This is like the prevalent takeaway on where we are

468
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: right now. It's perfectly understandable that a referee would miss

469
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: a call in real time, at real speed. It's inexcusable

470
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: to slow a play down, show it frame by frame

471
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: on your television to your audience, and then tell them

472
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: they didn't see what they saw. I love the sport,

473
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: but I don't love it when a legitimate sport forces

474
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: me to view the proceedings through the prism of professional wrestling,

475
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: which is how I view any time to go under

476
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: the hood for replay, well said, all right, it is

477
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: now time for road a victory presented by the United

478
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: States Marine Corps. It's third down and seven at the

479
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: Lions seventeen. Snap his back, they blitz, and he flips

480
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: it out right. Elliott picks it off the ground. Ten

481
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: tots left, dances in that's a touchdown and Elliott comes

482
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: up doing his impression of the Prescott hip swivel warm

483
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: up dance. Wow, that was a desperation throw and Elliott

484
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: virtually made a one hand catch to keep the ball

485
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: off the turf. Brett Sham. The sham got tear up

486
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: my ears. I like it, Marry Marine corpl Lord, damn

487
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: god Dak Prescott given ample time by his offensive line,

488
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: and he rewarded their precision with four four yards of

489
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, taking the Cowboys to over the Detroit Lions. Greg,

490
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: we know the Lions defense steaks. We know Matthew Stafford

491
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: ain't playing ball right now with the fractures in his back.

492
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: Why is this game as close as it was? Because

493
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper isn't healthy, Because the Cowboys defense continued. You

494
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: have a very mediocre season. But I still think it

495
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: shows how this Cowboys team is different because with a

496
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper not playing a full compliment of snaps and

497
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: the running game, and Zekiel Elliott not really doing that much,

498
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: they have Michael Gallup to go off for nine and

499
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: one in this game. They have Randall cop that make

500
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: a couple of big plays for for one fift and

501
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But Gallup, especially in this game, played like

502
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: a number one receiver. I mean, he made plays in

503
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: tight coverage, he ran great routes. He was doing it

504
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: all and the past you would have an injury or

505
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: two and the Cowboys would go caput. And now you've

506
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: got those two guys, uh in a really balanced offense overall,

507
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: in a better approach by Jason Garrett, who knew his

508
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: defense was struggling even against Jeff Drisco, who played pretty

509
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: well actually, and kept throwing the ball when they had

510
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: a lead in the fourth quarter and even through the

511
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: ball on second down to go ice the game instead

512
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: of running at three times and punting and trusting his defense.

513
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: So I am hoping that is Jason Garrett leaning into

514
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: their passing attack, because that is what this team is

515
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: all about. One of the reasons I was so excited

516
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: about this offense entering the season was because you could

517
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: tell by the way Michael Gallup was playing in August

518
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: and September he was making the leap and then he

519
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: went he had a nice scope in September, came back

520
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: and was not playing with confidence, started dropping balls, wasn't explosive,

521
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: It looks like he's back now and this still the

522
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: best offense in the league by d v o A.

523
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure right, and they lose lyle Collins late in

524
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: the game in Cooper's not You're still kind of waiting

525
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: for them to be a hundred percent healthy, but they're closing.

526
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: It's your point on Garrett. Jane Slater from NFL never

527
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: reported that he held a meeting with the team and

528
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: basically took accountability. They didn't say what for, but we

529
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: could put together some dots in what it might be

530
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: about the offense. Yeah, I think it was him being

531
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: conservative last week because he was self critical that he

532
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: leaned on the run too much in that game. And

533
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: I meant to mention when I talked about death. Tony

534
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: Pollard was huge in this game, four for forty four

535
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: as a receiver, including a touchdown, but he made plays

536
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: on his own. I mean, they have playmakers around Dak Prescott,

537
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: who is also playing great. It happens sometimes in the

538
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: NFL with head coaches, even guys that have been established,

539
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: there could be a come to Jesus type moment or

540
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: just the light goes on, or for whatever reason, maybe

541
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: if you're Cowboys and that's what you're hoping happens here

542
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: because they have been since Zigela Elliott came to town.

543
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: They're like, this is our best player, this is the

544
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: engine of our offense, and we're gonna go through him.

545
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Perhaps West though, it's it's better to have a more

546
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: open mind about how you had hacked the opponent and

547
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: just be more aggressive in general, which has been a

548
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: negative hallmark. If that makes any sense of the guard era, Well,

549
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is true, especially when Dak

550
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: Prescott has overtaken Zeke Illiot as the engine driving this offense.

551
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Perfect and Dak has just had a phenomenal year. There

552
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: cannot be critics anymore of the way he's played. Yeah,

553
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: I had him and I have to rank, you know

554
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: the m v P cannets. I had him fifth going

555
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: into this week. A lot of people thought that was

556
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: what do you guys just go back and forth with

557
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: the rearing of m VPS. It feels like it's every week. Really,

558
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: I have to know every week, it's part of it's

559
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: part of the debrief. But they he has to be

560
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: that good because I would be concerned about the defense.

561
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: It's not a good sign when Jeff Driscoll runs for

562
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: fifty one in a touch. You know he should run more. Frankly,

563
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: he passed on it a couple of times. Both Scarboroughs

564
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: running through your defense. They ran in the red zone.

565
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: The lines did pretty well. It was closer than it

566
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: really should have been. But yeah, here's uh, we're worried

567
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys defense. Yeah, here's an unpopular opinion. You know,

568
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: I've Jeff Drisco is playing on Thanksgiving. I don't totally

569
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: hate it. I want Stafford out there, but Driscoll has

570
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: got a little something. I still I would like to

571
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: put it out there and and stone me if you wish.

572
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: People of Michigan, you the ones that live by the lakes,

573
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: but maybe we flex out the Lions going forward on Thanksgiving.

574
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Tradition is great, and we're not going to take away

575
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: your game in that week, the week twelve or week

576
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: thirteen game, whatever, but we're just gonna slide it to

577
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Sunday and then put in something Marquis in that early

578
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: game parade coming with me. That's all they have left.

579
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: The family tradition you've had for thirty five years. Sorry, whatever,

580
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I just mean one particular grandparents who celebrated this, They

581
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: basically added the third game as a permanent flex where

582
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: you can wake up late or you can just get

583
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: going early with the Thanksgiving party and maybe skip that.

584
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: About a flex by the schedule makers, like this is

585
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: our game, this is what we're gonna do. I I

586
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: hear you. I'm with you. I can't in this one,

587
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: all right? They Lions fans have been through so much

588
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: that they can. I be honest. I I love it.

589
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: I love that. That's I love the Lions, even when

590
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: they stink. It's a big part of the holiday. It's

591
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Everybody's having fun. But you know, sometimes you

592
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: think Jeff driscoll, or maybe I can see Patrick Mahomes

593
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: at noon on Thanksgiving? That would be nice. Do I

594
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: need to be a Lions fan? And it's not so

595
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: much this year, but in you know, countless years past,

596
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: the team is one in eleven and we're about to

597
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: get waxed to ten on Thanksgiving. Maybe don't affect my

598
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: holiday if I'm Alliance fan? Just another Why wouldn't you

599
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: be honest the whole time? Though? Dan, you said you said, okay,

600
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: if I'm actually being honest, because I feel like I'm

601
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: gonna get some heat just I'm trying to couch it.

602
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: But also, like my statement, nice floodlights into that stadium. Please,

603
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: that was you have a lighting issue. There so many

604
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: critiques they're they're artificial turf looks gray green like that

605
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: is not a color that the facility. It's got a

606
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: nice feel, old house quality to It's more green. Please

607
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: more light. Do you hear that? People of Michigan? Thank you?

608
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: And that was the road to Victory presented by the

609
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps. And we move on. Set on

610
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: the counter, gives off to Marlin. Matt cuts up field,

611
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: patient run, spins out of a tackle going into the ten.

612
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: He's at the five looking for the pylon, and he

613
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: is touch down. Marlin. The best time you'll see all year.

614
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: The cults are in. It's seven to six. It's calm down,

615
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: on down. Mattie Taylor with the call for the Colts

616
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Radio Network, and it may be the last time you

617
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: see Mac for a while. At the check in. Is

618
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: a fractured hand left this game in the third quarter? Anyway,

619
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack and Jonathan Williams both went over one hundred yards,

620
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: part of the Colt's best running day fifteen years thirty

621
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: three to thirteen win over the Jaguars at Lucas Oil Stadium.

622
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: The Colts piled up two sixty two yards on the ground,

623
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: the JAG's offense unable to get much going in Nick

624
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Foles's return to the starting lineup. They it started great. Actually,

625
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: their first possession, they go down the field full six

626
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: of seven, a great little pass over the middle to

627
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: d J h RK who takes it, takes it to

628
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: the house and um, and away we go. We're off

629
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: and running. But then the game just switched. It just

630
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: flipped and Indie took over. And this has been an

631
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: issue for the Jaguars, who are in very deep trouble now. Um,

632
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: this has been an issue for the Jaguars at multiple

633
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: points this season, an issue stopping the run. And it's

634
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: not even the worst game they had the season. Christian

635
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and the Panthers I think dropped to sixty eight

636
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: bomb autum about six weeks ago. So they don't do

637
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: a good job against the run, and they got into

638
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: a situation where, you know, we talked about the Cowboys,

639
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, who you know who's running the offense. Well,

640
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournett is the guy that makes the Jack's offense go.

641
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: He only gets five carries in the first half of

642
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: this game, and by the time they fall behind, you're

643
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: not gonna go back to him. So essentially you're playing

644
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: a different style ball that you usually play. And the

645
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: game just slipped away into the Colts credit. Uh, they

646
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: get they they get Jacoby Brissette back. He doesn't do

647
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: much in this game, but he stays on the field,

648
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: he stabilizes the offense, and um, this is an important

649
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: win and it sets up a huge game on Thursday

650
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: night with the culture traveling to Houston. Who are the

651
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: Jaguars going forward? The nick fools Jaguars, I mean they

652
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: want they want to they want to get after the passer.

653
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: They don't have a backbone on defense apparently. But if

654
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: you're Tom, I mean Tom Coughlin probably sold to his owner,

655
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: you know what type of team he wanted to have

656
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: a few years ago. And I guarantee, I bet the

657
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: words we're gonna run the ball, we're gonna be tough,

658
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop the run came out of his mouth.

659
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: And then you play the Colts and you have twenty

660
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: nine yards rushing and they rush for two, six, four.

661
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: I know Leonard Fournette's season long stats look pretty good,

662
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: but they go have and quarters at a time without

663
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: running the ball at all. Well. I think that has

664
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: a lot to do with the pairing of John d

665
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: Filippo and Nick Foles, which was not in place when

666
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Kaughlin and crew hit the scene a couple of last year.

667
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: They were away this run heavy, We're gonna run at

668
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: all costs and it costs them right and Falls. You know,

669
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I was excited to see tough, tough opening spot for

670
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: Falls Nation here there at four and six. They're not

671
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: done in the division, but you're down two games now

672
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: with a couple of division losses, and uh, you're in.

673
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: You're in pretty big trouble. I do love the a

674
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: f C South because it's just it's it's very messy

675
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: in a fun way. Because you got the Colts and Texans,

676
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: as I said, they're playing on Thursday night, great Thursday

677
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: night game at six and four, the Titans hanging around

678
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: at five and five, and then the Jaguars, who not

679
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: feeling good about the Jacks at this point, but even

680
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: they're on the property there two games out and they're

681
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: in last place. So that I feel like there's gonna

682
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: be a lot of shifting and moving around in that

683
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: division potential. I still liked the Texans even after today.

684
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, my feeling because I was

685
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: I was with you Mark on it, uh Weston and

686
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. But I thought that the Texans were catching

687
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens in a really bad time. Now it's fine

688
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: and um, and that it was not going to be

689
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: a good Sunday for them. Uh. But I also think,

690
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, throw it out. It feels like not to

691
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: go back to the Texans, but it feels like with

692
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: three weeks running, there's a playoff contender that just looks

693
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: outrageously terrible. It was the Packers a couple of weeks ago,

694
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: last week it was the Saints. This week it's the Texans.

695
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to put too much stock into that

696
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: with the Texans and writing them off, but the division

697
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: feels definitely a lot tighter now that it did before

698
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: kickoff tonight. Texans have a different ceiling than the Colts

699
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars. But the Texas have showed that floor,

700
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: not today's floor, but a concerning floor more than once. Right,

701
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: and they they this Colts team can say, Okay, that's fine,

702
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: but Thursday Night football, we can sweep the Texans. So

703
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: that essentially would would essentially be a two game lead,

704
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: and so you're right, that's a massive game. I also

705
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: while we were talking, got a message from the Ryan

706
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Pace Defenders Committee. It's a group that just like and

707
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: then they said, they said, yeah, the membership base it's

708
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: pretty big. And they said yeah, they said, hey, can

709
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: anyone mention that the Jaguars drafted Leonard four Nette, you know,

710
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: when they needed a quarterback. Everyone's killing me when I

711
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: took Trabiski over Watson and Mahomes. You know, they take

712
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: four net and Blake Bortles as their quarterback. They kind

713
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: of blew that in retrospect. Good job by the Pace Committee.

714
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: Pace Committee, Uh score big dub. I mean, I don't

715
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: like that. That's what Pace is doing during an actual

716
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: Bears game that were He's not He's not part of

717
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: the well's not a lot of fans. I also want

718
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: to say, West, you are since you met Lakisha, your

719
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: fashion sense has just gone through the roof. As we

720
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: all know famously, Uh you say it's for an awakening

721
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: on your part. Other people outsiders and critics say it's

722
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: your wife that's dressing you, and you don't deserve as

723
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: much credit. Would you like a true breakdown it can

724
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: I get you, Let me finish my point, and then

725
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: I want you to take the floor in this. But

726
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: I just want everyone and when you rewatch this game,

727
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: if you're not watching on condensed to check out t

728
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Y Hilton's gigantic black diamond necklace that he's wearing on

729
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: the sideline for four quarters. It makes a Mr. T necklace. Uh, look,

730
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, frail and tiny by comparison West the floor

731
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: is yours. Well, let me you know I've I've attempted

732
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: to steer the narrative on this a little bit as

733
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: you all have. Uh, let me go with complete candor here.

734
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: It's harder to dress when you're overweight and you don't

735
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: really care. But I dropped like seventy five pounds during

736
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: cancer and I came back and close fit a little

737
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: bit better. The cheaters diet, I call it. But but

738
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: the pride, I would say, having Lakisha like just to

739
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: hear a few words like no, I don't know about that,

740
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: just during the week, and then you after a while,

741
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: you start putting a few things together just because you

742
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: hear it and then you feel confident enough to put

743
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: your own clothing styles. What does that have to do

744
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: with the aggressive rips in your upper thigh jeans tonight?

745
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's how they showing some nice Can we

746
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: stand up? Can we get the camera shot here? Wow,

747
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: they're not really at the upper THI yeah, oh yeah,

748
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: but look up? Oh yeah, what was that mark? Oh yeah,

749
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: oh this one here current, but you got holes all

750
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: over the place. Can you just camera one? Can you

751
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: show them how high up it is on the thigh

752
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: because it's aggressively. Camera one has never seen anything like this,

753
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: I can promise you. Oh yeah, that's right here right there.

754
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean that is that's a little tease to the

755
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: ladies paying yourselves with the vapors. All right, let's let's

756
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: move on. That's why I watch the shows. Now, looks right,

757
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: fires and strike down field put John Brown is the

758
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: fifteen end of the endow touchdown touchdown Buffalo John Brown

759
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: touchdown bills from forty yards out. A great throw by

760
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. That was a laser throw by Josh Allen

761
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: up the sideline to John Brown. And that is exactly

762
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: what Bill Strands wanted to see. Take that Greg Rostal,

763
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: John Murphy, and Eric Wood with the call for the

764
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: Bills radio network, Josh Allen ran for a score and

765
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: tied a career high with three touchdown passes. Take that

766
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: Greg rose Atal, including that forty yard connection to Smokey Brown.

767
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: The Bills rom thirty seven twenty over the Dolphins, ending

768
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Miami's two game winning streak. That completes a sweep of

769
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: the home and home for the Bills, who are in

770
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: prime playoff position at seven and three with six games

771
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: to play. Mark it was nice to see the Bills

772
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: actually hammer a team, which is what they did here.

773
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: One thing that I specialize on if you're from the

774
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: United Kingdom and you ever watched us on Sky Sports,

775
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: is they have us on at the end of the

776
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: first quarter of games. And I went on and defiantly

777
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: announced that the big issue with the Bills as they

778
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: cannot close drives. They're a field goal offense. There's a

779
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: lot to be concerned about, and they're a looking like

780
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: a six seed that's about to get bounced out of

781
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: January play. They go on minutes later to unleash seconds

782
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: later unleash the first of four long, many played touchdown

783
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: drives that dropped a bomb on a Dolphins team that

784
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: I also oversold as the best, one of the best

785
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: coach teams in the league. So you know, sometimes things

786
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: don't go right in the way that you viewed. We

787
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: should maybe just stay quiet. And I know some behind

788
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: the glass would agree as well. But this Dolphins team,

789
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: they hang around, they had that ability, but they were

790
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: overpowered today by I would say, I'm glad they used

791
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: John Brown in that replay because John Brown is not

792
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: someone that's gonna get a lot of talking points and

793
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: pressed because he's just not a dominant player. But week

794
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: after week for the Bills hundred and thirty seven yards today,

795
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: nine receptions. He's been there for Josh Allen. We after

796
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: week they went back to using Devin's singletary a bunch.

797
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: I think that's an up and down thing that I

798
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: don't see him as someone that you can count on alone.

799
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: They needed Frank Gore to and the Dolphins offense they

800
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: ran into issues. I thought that the Bills defense, which

801
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: has some of their own UH concerns, gave Ryan Fitzpatrick

802
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: a lot of issues up at the line. Ryan Fitzpatrick

803
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: what looked a little bit beguiled at times, and this

804
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: played out in the second half the way you'd expect

805
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: the better team one. I don't think the Bills are

806
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: thirty seven points a game team on by any stretch,

807
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: but they flex their muscles a little bit today. I

808
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: would imagine this is I will be a humbling experience

809
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: on game pass. It'll be good to see them put

810
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: up some points that they you know, yes it was

811
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, but they needed a game where they scored points,

812
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: where they had touchdown drives, and more importantly, that where

813
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: their pass where I showed up. I think to me

814
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: that's been as concerning as in their their rush defense.

815
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: Is anything going on with Josh Allen? Because you thought

816
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: this defense was gonna be special at least everything I

817
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: read and the stats certainly support that. Their pastors that

818
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: they were getting after it. John seven Sex, John Brown,

819
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: who has been at times one of the best deep

820
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL on pace for ninety catches and yards.

821
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: Playing with a quarterback who cannot complete a deep pass,

822
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: maybe you'll get hot, you know, maybe Josh Allen get hot.

823
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: Maybe John Brown should have been the Eagles target not

824
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: to Seawan Jackson. Can we talk about Francore? Yeah, getting worse.

825
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: Now been over a month since he's averaged like over

826
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: two point five yards perka. In fairness, he only gets

827
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: the ball seemingly in third and one and fourth and

828
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: one situations, and he always like gets stacked boxing. Old trope.

829
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. Have you watched the last couple

830
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: of weeks. You're allowed to break through drag a few

831
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: g's that one, that's how you average one or two

832
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: yards for carry third and one stacked box. That means

833
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: there's no safety. You can just keep cruising. Your defense

834
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: system is weakening. Greg so Many wrote off Francore only

835
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: three and a half years two earlier, right exactly. Frank

836
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: Core's playing contributing role to US seven and three football

837
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: team in the year. Give me a break the inconvenient

838
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: roof what I call him? No, I respect for Frank.

839
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's got respect for Frank. I mean he's going to Canton?

840
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: Is he he is? Sounds like a juicy offseason topic.

841
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: We'll get there in the off season. All right, then

842
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: let's move on. This is for all the money, Alan

843
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: shot gun Snap, It's gonna paid. Right. How about how

844
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: big junker Brocos. That's the funk he's talking to him.

845
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: They put politivity and there the three of the season

846
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: talk all the way back on a floppy Sunday from

847
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: a twenty zero deficit, they tat together for Brockos twenty

848
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: seven twenty three. Paint the picture. Paul Allen with fat

849
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: versus A think versus just went at a bush off

850
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: and al did all the heavy lifting there. Vikings Radio Network.

851
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: The Vikings wiped away at twenty to zip halftime deficit

852
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: with touchdowns on each of their first four drives in

853
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: the second half, then held off the Broncos by forcing

854
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: three straight incomplete passes in the end zone over the

855
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: last ten seconds. You heard the last one there. They

856
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: preserve a twenty seven to twenty three win. West. A

857
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: comeback of this caliber is always gonna be a team effort.

858
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 1: But come on now, Kirkie Cousins led the way baby,

859
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: check that box. Well, he's running out of dragons to

860
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: slay here with last week beating a winning team on

861
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: the road in prime time, and in this week, let's

862
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: let's talk about the things that he accomplished in this game.

863
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: They were down twenty to nothing at halftime, teams trailing

864
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: by twenty or more points at halftime. We're oh in

865
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: ninety nine. Over the last five seasons before that, the

866
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: Vikings of the first team in forty years to score

867
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: on every second half possession and win after trailing but

868
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: twenty points at half time. They are doing some things.

869
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: And this isn't a day where Dalvin Cook All Pro

870
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: candidate stuffed could not go anywhere on the ground, Adam

871
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: feeling out of the game, not playing, and Stefon Diggs

872
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: not a target officially in the first half. This all

873
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: happened in the second half. And let's compliment Courtland Sutton.

874
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: Remember the nineteen eighties wrestling where you'd have I guess

875
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: it's still in wrestling now. The curtain jerker he takes,

876
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, give him six minutes to kind of work

877
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: the guy around and then you know he's gonna lose.

878
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton was giving four arms shivers, kicking him in

879
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: the chest, a little pile driver action, just taking care

880
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: of the entire Vikings secondary, specifically Xavier Rhodes. Courtland Sutton

881
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: is a man among boys and would not I would

882
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: not have any problem with anybody putting him as the

883
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: second All Pro behind Michael Thomas. Every week against good corners,

884
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: he is making unbelievable catches and the Broncos emptied out.

885
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: This was the old kitchen sinc Game. Empty out your

886
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: bag of trick plays, your gadget plays, and they did

887
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: in this game. And that's how that's part of the

888
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: reason why they got this lead twenty and nothing and

889
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: then they ran out of trick plays, I mean second half.

890
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Think about this day for the Broncos franchise. It starts

891
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: with a report from CBS that the locker room is

892
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: a little bit down on the Vic Fongio experience, that

893
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: his gruff demeanor has led to some general unhappiness behind

894
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: the scenes. And then you have what could be kind

895
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: of not season season saving because the season's kind of

896
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 1: gone already, but something that would really make you feel

897
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: good going into Minnesota and shocking a very good Vikings team,

898
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: and then for its end with losing your fourth game

899
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: of the season essentially in the final seconds in the

900
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It has just been that kind of year

901
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: for the Broncos, and uh, it would be very interesting

902
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: to see what what happens with them going forward. They

903
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: have some players to build around and Alexander Johnson, this

904
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: guy that they put in their starting line up at

905
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: the end of September at linebacker and his tree formed

906
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: their defense had another big game today. Shelby Harris had

907
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: a big game for them in the first half. They

908
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: have some good things going for them. But you're right,

909
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: it's just a series of heartbreaking close loss I mean

910
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: that no one, no one loses a lead like the Broncos.

911
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: But the crazy thing here was how little margin for

912
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: error Cousins had. This is not a normal twenty point

913
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: comeback or two touchdown come back. Not only did they

914
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: score every possession, they had touchdowns on all four possessions.

915
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: And you figure, Okay, well the Broncos, you know, offense

916
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: let him back, get it. Not really, the Broncos offense

917
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: only had four drives. They had a seven minute field

918
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: goal drive they had. They had two other drives and

919
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: that included a missfield goal they almost scored to win

920
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: the game at the end. The Broncos actually possessed the

921
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: ball for over seventeen minutes in the second half. It

922
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: was just the Vikings. Every time they got the ball,

923
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown as fast as they possibly could

924
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: and put it back on them that's pretty impressive. Look

925
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: at the Vic Fonio resume. It also includes a pretty

926
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: disastrous second half against the Jaguars. Yes, it does a

927
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: lot of disastrous can have right, Yeah, this is really yeah,

928
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: And I know Brandon Allen is probably you know, you're

929
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: you're holding You're holding the spot here for them for

930
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: John Elway to go find go draft another quarterback that's

931
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: almost gonna play soon. I would have to imagine Drew Lock.

932
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what what the overall, what the scope

933
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: is there, but Brandon Allen's mobility a couple of games

934
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: in a row, because he did it against Cleveland too,

935
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: and did it today. He had a big third down

936
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: scramble that that bought them time. I know they lost

937
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: the game, but it's not a I'm not killing Joe here.

938
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: He just I think he gives this some another little

939
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: element to their office. I agree. I think that he

940
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: is a better fit for that offensive line than Joe

941
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Flecco was. This game was almost like the micro cosm

942
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: of this entire Vikant season. In one game, you know,

943
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: they go, they have the early struggles, and you had

944
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: one moment where you could see Stefon Diggs was clearly

945
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: upset on a play that Kirk Cousins had a free

946
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: play but instead of going down the field, you know,

947
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: threw it to the fullback, which is like the most

948
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins thing ever. On a free play, let's just

949
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: get two yards. But then that's squeak. We all got

950
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: the grace because Dig's had a long touchdown on one

951
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: of their quick drives. Later in the game. He also

952
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: had a thirty four yard play called back on a

953
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: Tiki tach holding penalty he could have had over fifty West.

954
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: You said that Mr Cousins is running out of dragons

955
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: to slay. I got one for you, alright. I have

956
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: it written down. Win a playoff game before thirty second birthday.

957
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: That's fair. It's got more to do to prove himself

958
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: as a true franchise leading quarterback when this division, so

959
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 1: you put yourself in a in a chance to uh,

960
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, go far. In the love that Cousins narrative,

961
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: he has played well enough to get everyone off his back.

962
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you. Stop being like the

963
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Twitter go to joke. Does it does feel like people

964
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: are off his back at this at least for now.

965
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: And they lost today. That would not have been the

966
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: case at all. Let us move out on Atlanta releases

967
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 1: late on the Gunners. Right down the scene, Barnard back

968
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: draps to the Kenyon three routes thirty thirty five. Barner

969
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: forty fifty, has a block on the perimeter. He's only

970
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: got the putter to beat Pollardi is tucked down and

971
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: Barny scores touchdown Kenyon Barner and it is seventy seven yards?

972
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: How sweet must that taste? The Kenyon Barner who used

973
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: to play here, And this is just as pretty a

974
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: term return as you're ever gonna see. Just a weaving,

975
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: unbelievable return by Barner with a vision, got a few blocks,

976
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: splits in the end zone. Oh yeah, the Kenyon Barner

977
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: revenge gage West Durham and David Archer with the call.

978
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: I feel like we're not seeing as many punt returns

979
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: for touchdowns now. That was one of the best, if

980
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: not the best of all year. The falcons are suddenly

981
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: soaring high above the mountains. Well, Barner returned a punt

982
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: seventy eight yards. Well, if you sit next to Greg

983
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: you would feel that way to Okay, high above the

984
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: mountains is illustrious. But he would turn that seventy eight

985
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: yards just one of many highlight it's for the Falcons.

986
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: Thank god this wasn't three. We don't like that number

987
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Three win over the Panthers in Charlotte. Greg

988
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: makes sense of this for me. I mean, you guys

989
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: have been making fun of me enjoying a team, you know,

990
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: changing what everyone said about them, that they had given

991
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: up on their coach, that they were unwatchable, like we

992
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: we all just kind of took them for jokes. And

993
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: they've come out and they've beaten the hell out of

994
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: two teams with winning records of Saints and the Panthers

995
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: on the road and back to back weeks. And it

996
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: starts because he got a professional quarterback. On the first

997
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: third down of the entire game, Matt Ryan sees exactly

998
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: where the blitz is coming from with Ron Rivera, hits

999
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: a slant to Calvin Really his slants to Julio Jones

1000
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: and and Calvin Ridley or is pretty times play as

1001
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: as any in football. And then he had three beautiful

1002
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: throws in this game downfield, one to Julio Jones and

1003
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: two to Ridley where the pressure is coming on him,

1004
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: he waits to the last second he throws that high

1005
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: arching pass and they gets down beautifully into his receiver's hands.

1006
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: And that was one of many reasons they don't in

1007
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: every phase. But he was awesome and he's killed Ron

1008
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: Rivera's Panthers every time he plays him. I mean, anybody

1009
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: that's watched this Falcon steam and it's been a tough

1010
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: season on balance, knows that Matt Ryan has never been

1011
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: the problem with I'm just trying to figure out still

1012
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: now is for eight games or whatever, arguably the worst

1013
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: defense in the league, complete lack of discipline and blown assignments,

1014
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: just getting destroyed week after week, and now against the

1015
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: last two weeks, as you said, against two playoff level teams,

1016
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: they've allowed four field goals and no touchdowns. They're looking

1017
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: pretty younger, aren't they looking younger? Apparently? I mean some

1018
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: of that when you know, apparently took place before the

1019
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: bye even but the yeah, the stats are are just rare.

1020
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: They had four turnovers forced in the first nine games

1021
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: of the season. They had four today. They had seven

1022
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: sacks in the first eight games. They have eleven in

1023
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. Desmond Truffont returns today and played

1024
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: really well. I don't think this is a playoff level team.

1025
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: I think the Panther No, no, the Panthers, Oh, of

1026
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: course the Falcons are. They're running through this NFC South.

1027
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: They have five straight games in the visit and they're

1028
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: gonna win all five. What's their record there? Three and seven?

1029
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: So that they're in, you gotta win out and get

1030
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: some help. A lot of defense is I was thinking

1031
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: about this the way coast falling into the sea. That

1032
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: would help. Like defense is there's something strange in the alchemy.

1033
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: A lot of it's about energy, right, And you could

1034
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: just watch the Falcons last two weeks and they have

1035
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: played with incredible energy and athleticism and the speed that

1036
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, you think of when they put this team together.

1037
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: But you can and you could tell that performance last

1038
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: week against the Saints. The energy was so off the

1039
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: charts and they were having so much fun that it

1040
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: did seem to be the type of game that would

1041
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: either be our super Bowl and then they go back

1042
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow or the start of maybe a big change. How

1043
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: the only problem here, Greg, the only reason why I

1044
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: don't it seems kind of pointless to really dig into

1045
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: the Falcons. When he was seven out of eight start

1046
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: the season. It's already too late. Yeah it is, but

1047
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: I I I want to watch them. At least they'll

1048
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: be more watchable if I'm a Falcons fan, I'm going Okay,

1049
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris has been a defensive coach his whole career,

1050
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: made his name that way, and you had him stuck

1051
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: coaching wide receivers for eight games. Now he fixed your defense.

1052
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that on the head coach for not having the

1053
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: coaches and the strangest Simon Eric Man Jennie did something

1054
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: like that too, But yeah, it's all brick on early downs,

1055
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris on third downs, it's a lot, And yeah,

1056
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't think the Quins gonna save his job almost

1057
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: no matter what happens. But what this did was it

1058
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: pointed out that the Panthers to me, are not a

1059
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: playoff team in a deep NFC because what do they

1060
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: have that special? This is not a special Ron Rivera defense.

1061
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: And I think that that goes back to whether they

1062
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: keep Rivere or not. It's just an okay, Ron Rivera defense.

1063
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: It's fine. Is Kyle Allen morphin into Trevor Simeon before

1064
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: our eyes? Kyle Allen had four interceptions today and they

1065
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: were almost all just awful. Isn't like really really one

1066
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, and one of them Trufon made, if

1067
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: you watch the replay, made an incredible play that I

1068
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: give him a little credit. But the other three were

1069
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: just terrible and the rest of the game you kind

1070
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: of moved the ball. Allen didn't made some nice plays,

1071
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: but that the interceptions were brutal. Christian McCaffrey nine yards

1072
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: away from two hundred on the day, but I'm assuming

1073
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that came because it's eleven through the

1074
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: air screen pass action when the team is down and right.

1075
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: It was a lot of in the catch up mode,

1076
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: but no even at halftime when it was the game.

1077
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, he just gets these quiet twelve yard catches

1078
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: and ten yard runs. But you can't make an offense

1079
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: out of that. You can't make an MVP out of that.

1080
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: We talked about it downstairs, Greg and I did that.

1081
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: The problem with what makes it almost impossible to win

1082
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: MVP as running back is you can't really control the game.

1083
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: You can't what a quarterbright. It's beyond you talk about

1084
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: the narrative and Mark all the time with that, but

1085
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: it's also like the quarterbacks in control of the game

1086
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: in a way the running back never can be unless

1087
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: it's you know, Adrian Peterson two thousand, twelve or whatever,

1088
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: like the special special season. He's gotta have twenty nine

1089
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: touches and three touchdowns and then they win the game.

1090
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: By I mean, he's got a chance to break the

1091
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: all time record for yards in a season, which is

1092
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: a pretty wild record, you know, the yards from scrimmage.

1093
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: He's still I think he's a little buying base. But

1094
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: that's a rough turning point for the Panthers. State it's over,

1095
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: let's move on. Then let's move on again, and Winson

1096
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: throws it right to the Saints coming back Marcus Williams,

1097
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: the thirties, the twenty, the ten, the fun tock gon

1098
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams. They're not gonna come a lot easier than that, dudes.

1099
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: Jamus Winston drops back to throw, sells it about ten

1100
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: yards over the head Mike Evans, and Marcus Williams brings

1101
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: it back for a score. Marcus Williams with his fourth interception.

1102
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Loves the season. Uh, you gotta love the dependability of

1103
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: Jamis Wison's zack stripe deuce. McAllister. Saints Radio Network Marcus

1104
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: Williams removed with any semblance of drama from the proceedings

1105
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: on Sunday and Tampa intercepting Jameis Winston fifty five yards

1106
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: to the host, clinching score Saints seventeen win over the

1107
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: Bucks West. Drew Brees threw three touchdowns in this game.

1108
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: The Saints um the game maybe got a little closer

1109
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: than they wanted, but this, on balance was a now

1110
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: nice bounce back after last week's meltdown. Yeah, I think

1111
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: we can look back at that game against the Falcons,

1112
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: who are now the best team in the NFC South

1113
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: according to Gregent and say that was just a speed

1114
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: bump that they came right back. And and we've said that,

1115
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, the first half of last year Drew Brees

1116
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: at the m v P starting with Thanksgiving of last year.

1117
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas are the m v ps

1118
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: of this offense. Camara comes back and he's the He's

1119
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: the focal point again, whereas last week in his first

1120
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: game back from injury, he was almost in the afterthought.

1121
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: He makes this offense go and he was a huge

1122
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: difference early in the game. His numbers don't look spectacular,

1123
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: but he was the one doing the work early. Michael

1124
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: Thomas cannot be stopped. He was he was in edible,

1125
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: and Jared Cook had another big play. His stat line

1126
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: doesn't look great, but I think Jared Cook is coming on.

1127
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: Is that third option for them? And you know, Drew

1128
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: Brees a few more sideline creepers. The arm strength just

1129
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: isn't there, but he does enough even without the arm

1130
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: strength that this this team can still be a super

1131
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: Bowl contender. And you get through the NFC playoffs with

1132
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: Drew Brees at this point, I wonder that I just

1133
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: wonder that I have not I want to see more.

1134
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: First of all, just because he's barely played this year.

1135
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what four games. I want to

1136
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: see their offense with it more. They as long as

1137
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: they're functional. I mean, it's not like their passing game

1138
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: has been poor. Last week was a strange game with

1139
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: a lot of penalties in every you know aspect of

1140
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: their team struggling. I think the level of concern, at

1141
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: least for me, for Drew Brees is not that high.

1142
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he's like a detriment to their team.

1143
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: Come on, no, I agree with that, I think, but

1144
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: he's just not I don't know if they're playing against

1145
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson. Do I trust Drew Brees and at

1146
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: this point to keep up with Russell Wilson, I don't

1147
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: know about that. You don't think this guy can keep

1148
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: up in a shootout? I think in his building maybe.

1149
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how many how many bubble screens,

1150
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know. I think it's about

1151
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: as deep a race for the buys in a conference

1152
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: that I can remember. Break it down well, at this point,

1153
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: you have the Seahawks, the forty Niners, the Saints, the Vikings,

1154
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: and the Packers, and all of them have eight wins,

1155
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: right and yeah, I mean Vikings I guess have three losses.

1156
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: Of that group, but that that's a pretty deep group

1157
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: of teams that all have a chance for the one

1158
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: seed or you know, you follow the five. That's a

1159
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: big difference for the Saints. They have a huge advantage

1160
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: over the rest of that group because you can give

1161
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: them the NFC South right now, they're three games up.

1162
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna lose that. I know it's redundant,

1163
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: and so I'll keep it quick. But the Jamis Winston experience,

1164
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: I feel like he legit costs them five games the

1165
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: season with his stakes alone. You know, we're killing Kyle

1166
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: Allen for throwing four picks, as we should, but this

1167
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: happens over and over. How many four interception days did

1168
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: he have? He leads the league in these pick sixes.

1169
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, here's is killing you. He's got eighteen interceptions

1170
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: this year, the most through ten games in the season

1171
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: since Jake Cutler a decade ago. On the other hand,

1172
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: you watched this game. He was hit twelve times by

1173
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: the Saints defense. Um. The Buccaneers had their fewest rushing

1174
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: attempts and the forty four year franchise history, six for

1175
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: thirteen by their running backs. Well, I ran the ball

1176
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: only eight times today total, um, and Jamie has had

1177
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: some plays where the offensive line blocked. Fine, he had

1178
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: plenty of time and he just threw warm burners. I mean.

1179
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: On the other hand, the interceptions, some of them were flukey.

1180
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: So I mean, but I think that's what interceptions are.

1181
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: When you throw enough of them, you're gonna have every

1182
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: different kind imaginable. The Winston eras come to an end,

1183
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: I think naturally. You know, they didn't give him the extension.

1184
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: They let him play on the fifth year option, and

1185
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: it's just run its natural course. And the Bucks makes

1186
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: so much sense as one of the teams is that

1187
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: will get one of these veteran quarterbacks. They that just

1188
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: seems like it's with Bruce Arians there. He's gonna want

1189
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: his Carson Palmer esque veteran that he could bring in.

1190
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: I just see them as being a natural team rather

1191
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: than going with a rookie. It could happen. I'm still

1192
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: just scratching my head about them giving their GM who

1193
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, drafted Winston an extension before this season started. Well,

1194
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians took the job because of Jamis Winston. He

1195
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: thought that this guy was a franchise quarterback in the

1196
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: NFC South. You know, we'll see if Drew Brees will

1197
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: probably come back, although you never know. At this point,

1198
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: he's over forty. Matt Ryan's not going anywhere in Atlanta.

1199
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: But are the Panthers sure that they were still gonna

1200
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: just as speculation goes, let Cam Newton walk, is Kyle

1201
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Allen the guy you're gonna trust, or they another team

1202
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: that will take one of these veteran quarterbacks that are

1203
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna be floating around. Could be a very different looking

1204
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: division with some familiar faces. I'm not comfortable with the

1205
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: way we left at Drew Brees conversation. I don't Greg,

1206
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys are gonna watch this and say, oh,

1207
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: he's a problem, he's an issue. This was an awful

1208
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: game from him. I'm just saying I don't trust where

1209
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: his arm is right now. I don't think it's off

1210
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: fis game either. Dread around Breeze not is like being

1211
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: washed up, but maybe not being a true difference maker

1212
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: like he used to be. I wouldn't say dread. It's

1213
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: just more that you can tell when you used to

1214
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: watch something special, which is Saints offense reliably was, and

1215
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: now I just don't see it as special. I see

1216
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: it as more limited, all right, Michael, Michael Thomas. Let's

1217
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: just he's special. Let's just mention it. He's up to

1218
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: nineties six catches. You know, we're a week and a

1219
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: half away from Thanksgiving. He has ninety six catches for

1220
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: eleven d and almost fifty yards right now. I mean

1221
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: his are gonna be He's on pace, but he seems

1222
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: to be careful. Michael. It's it's outrageous, and every team

1223
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: facing them knows that Michael Thomas is basically their only receiver.

1224
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: What's the record one? I know it's let's less than that,

1225
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: isn't it's one two. Let's just stay rights. I'm just

1226
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: not sure that's why those events occurred, That's all I'll say.

1227
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: But that feels like a perfect spot to land. Let's

1228
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: move on. Oh before we move on, breaking news, we

1229
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: have a trade. We have a trade in our picks.

1230
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: Draft Mark Sessler sends Jets redskins to the old Zeuser

1231
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: in exchange for this game. You're about to get a

1232
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: highlight from So a little bottom of the draft sixth

1233
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: rounder goes back from the you know, seventh rounder and

1234
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe put a nice hunter and return something like that.

1235
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: Let's hit it. Here's your third down from the three

1236
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: yard line. Car's gonna throw it, steps up, you can't

1237
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: find anybody open. He's gonna run with it. Say on

1238
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: me speak, He's got open diving zone touch scowss. What

1239
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: a move by Derek Carr and second rushing such out ever,

1240
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh my, he went airborn. Everybody in a Raider front

1241
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: office holding their breath. Now, when your quarterback goes up

1242
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: in the air like that, we need that tune and

1243
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: Derek's so great awareness. You don't normally see this out

1244
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: of him taking off like that, but he wanted that

1245
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: touchdown so bad that he decided to go up on

1246
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: the one with nobody under him. I gotta gad he

1247
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: the helicopters baby has bread mustarder. Of course, I just

1248
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: looked it up. Eighty years old and turned eighty in May.

1249
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: That dude is having fun. He moved to the desert

1250
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: and he's having some fun. Okay, as he should. I mean,

1251
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: eighty year olds. They like the desert. They like going

1252
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: out there. They're like going to Florida. They're like going

1253
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: to you know, pomp Springs, Florida. Not a desk. Are

1254
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, but I'm saying, like different

1255
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: places they like to go. Okay, Florida, the desert, it's

1256
01:05:52,680 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: very moist there. Like some generalizing Derek Carr, you heard it,

1257
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: rush for a touchdown, through for another just enough production

1258
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: for the Raiders to get by the still winless Bungles.

1259
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: Seventeen ten Mark the Raiders moved to six and four

1260
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: and are Chief's loss away on Monday night from first

1261
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: place in the a f C West Hababa. Well, you cat,

1262
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: you looked over after we made this trade a number

1263
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: of times and asked, you know, what's going on with that,

1264
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: uh Raiders Bengals game over there? It doesn't look too

1265
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: intriguing two interestry not exactly a barn ber and you're right,

1266
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't. But if you're the Oakland Raiders and you're

1267
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: trying to recreate everything and you've got a really young team,

1268
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win a couple of games like this.

1269
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: And the Bengals played I thought, desperate football in the

1270
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: and it was one of the first games I thought

1271
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,479
Speaker 1: where they were like refusing to go away. They kept

1272
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: hanging around and a Josh Jackson fumble and a Derek

1273
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: Carr interception helped them to do that. But the difference

1274
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: in this one, I thought was, and it shouldn't be

1275
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: a surprise. With Cincinnati's rather hideous offensive line, Max Crosby

1276
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: four sacks, I've on the day for the Raiders and

1277
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: that's been overthrost two games. A consistent, a consistent thing

1278
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: for them, and that's good. And they really also down

1279
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: the stretch. It was Darren Waller, it's Hunter went Renfro,

1280
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: It's Tyrolle Williams and two of those guys are rookies.

1281
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: They have the most productive rookie class in the NFL

1282
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: in terms of receiving yards, rushing yards, and touchdowns. And

1283
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: it shows up every week. And so there you go.

1284
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: Mike Mayhock did what ten years rental Network and everyone

1285
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's a splashy higher but it's easy

1286
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, it's it's the different now that you're

1287
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: going to be responsible for these players. It could not

1288
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: have gone any better. It really cannot have got better.

1289
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: I'd say that some team should say grab Chris Wesley

1290
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,479
Speaker 1: is a GM, because that's there's there's a high part.

1291
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: Even better, Take Daniel Jeremiah off our hands. And they've tried,

1292
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: the Bucks tried before they gave that time. Maybe it's

1293
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: time for a new challenge. Westling. Just offer him a

1294
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: lot of money leverage that baby. Yeah, I mean, as

1295
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: Musburger says, baby, it's weird because Crosby is clearly better

1296
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: as a rookie as a fourth round pick than Cleveland

1297
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: Furrel is, you know, the number four overall pick. Furrels

1298
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: really struggled two and so last week, you know, had

1299
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: had a better game, but it was really telling Paul Gunther,

1300
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: their coordinator. And this was a month ago. This was

1301
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: during the London game, more than a month ago. They

1302
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: asked him, you know, how are you doing? You know,

1303
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: how are you holding up? Not a lot of talent

1304
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: on this defense. He said, yeah, we don't have any

1305
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers right now, but we've got a future one

1306
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 1: and that's Max Crosby. And it's pretty interesting that five

1307
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: games into Crosby's career, he's saying, that's the guy we're

1308
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: building around, a fourth round demon who just shows up

1309
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: every game. Are we to the point now I see

1310
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: Derek Carr went nine. No more caveats, no more reservations.

1311
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: We just all believe that Derek car is from now on.

1312
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: He's he's efficient in this offense. But I wouldn't go

1313
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: that far. He kind of like what Jared Goff was

1314
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: before this season, like a decent to good quarterback in

1315
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: a great offense for him. Yeah, I think I'm with

1316
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: Greg though where I'm not ready to I want to

1317
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: still see more. But he opened eleven of eleven. At

1318
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: one point he was fourteen for fourteen. After they had

1319
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: scored another touchdown, he ran one in. And he's not

1320
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 1: making killer mistakes and I think he's healthy. He wasn't.

1321
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: He has been through a lot on the injury front.

1322
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: He had a back injury, you know, which we we

1323
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: never know what that feels like. Gikianic people chasing you

1324
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: and tackling to the ground. Probably not great. Little little

1325
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: concerning though, this is this team the rate of analysis.

1326
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: We were excited to watch him because they've been so

1327
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: efficient on offense five point one yards per play. Last

1328
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: week was one of the worst offensive games against the

1329
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: Chargers and then seventeen points against the Bengals. They've come

1330
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: back to earth a little bit on offense. Uh Dr

1331
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: Chow is gonna be nervous, Mark after that breakdown, coming

1332
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: first corner, coming for the corner, the Chow corner. Like

1333
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: I said, I call him all the time. He does

1334
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily answer the phone. I know, well, so that

1335
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: you know he's got that old rotary phone. That's just

1336
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: get a busy signal real quick. Was Ryan Finn as

1337
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: bad as his numbers? I get, you know, It's like

1338
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm the last person that should comment on like Benching

1339
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton at this point. But I don't understand what

1340
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: the overall mission is. I just don't get what the

1341
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: mission is because there's there's just not much that you're

1342
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 1: gonna get from this type of player that's any different

1343
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: than they reduced a version of Andy Dalness some degree.

1344
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: Pretty have our road to Greatness segment. We should have

1345
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: a mission to Nowhere statement segment with just the Bengals

1346
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: every week. I don't know if it's a help to

1347
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: their head coach either, So all right, let's close it

1348
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: out with the other side of that trade. Blockbuster in

1349
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: the newsroom. Donald in the shotgun belts who was right?

1350
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: Griffin type right, three receivers left, Donald back to pro

1351
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: looks left. Hastime fires one down the left sideline for Crowder.

1352
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: He's got it hard on and he's in. That's a

1353
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: Jit touchdown. Jamison Crowder comes back to his old team

1354
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 1: and for the third straight Dame Crowder is able to

1355
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: score Sam Donald or the fourth touchdown US in the game.

1356
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: That's a career high. Bob was shoosing with the call

1357
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: for the Jets Radio network. Sam Donald slaying ghosts in

1358
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: d C. Four touchdown passes, including that pretty twenty nine

1359
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: yard or some really nice touch on some of his passes,

1360
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: you guys will see or you won't, depending on if

1361
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: you've watched this game on the old game Pass, Jets

1362
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: seventeen win over the moribund Washington Redskins. Two wins in

1363
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: a row for the Jets, who blew out an opponent

1364
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: three days after Christopher Johnson publicly announced that Adam Gates

1365
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: want to be one and done in Gotham and this

1366
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: is what Gaze has. Like I said on Thursday, I

1367
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: didn't put too much stock into Johnson's statement that Gaze

1368
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: will definitely be back in because what if they completely

1369
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: go in the tank for the rest of the season.

1370
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a much harder call and a much

1371
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: harder sell to your fan base, uh, in that situation.

1372
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: But you know, after a game him like today, you

1373
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: start to think, Okay, maybe they can go into the

1374
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: offseason with a little bit of hope and excitement, because

1375
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: if you recall last December, Donald's hot finish is part

1376
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: of the reason why there was a lot of expectations

1377
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 1: around the Jets entering this season. And for the second

1378
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: straight week, he's really um, he's really showing some growth

1379
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: and progress. And he had one more turnover today which

1380
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: was a bad interception, So it wasn't a perfect game,

1381
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: but you take that out of the mix, and he

1382
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: really has kind of recovered from that. Really one to point, well,

1383
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: it was one to three punch account the motto, and

1384
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: then the game against the Patriots, the ghost game, and

1385
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: then uh Jack the Jags game back to back where

1386
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: he just was having trouble protecting the ball, wasn't getting

1387
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: any um, he wasn't getting any help from his offensive line.

1388
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: But he seems to be playing with some confidence and

1389
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: that's really good to see. So Donald was very good

1390
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: in this game. And the Redskins are very very hand.

1391
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: This is a very bad Washington team. How did Haskins look? Haskins,

1392
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give him credit for this. He had

1393
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: one very pretty deep all that showed, um his arm strength,

1394
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: that all the arm you want, Yeah it and it

1395
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: went for a completion, but I got called back on

1396
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: a holding penalty. In the fourth quarter, they scored two

1397
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: touchdowns and garbage time. It was up to thirty four

1398
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: three before they scored, but they hadn't scored a touchdown

1399
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: at sixteen quarters sixteen quarters before those two garbage time scores.

1400
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: In general, um, and this is never a popular sentiment

1401
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: in this room. And I understand that he's not maybe

1402
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: a guy that you ever want to root for, but

1403
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: Greg Daniels is Greg Williams has done a really good

1404
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: job with his Jets defense. They're one of the best

1405
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: teams in the league against the run, and they have

1406
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: such a talent deficiency in their secondary and yet on

1407
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: a near, you know, weekly basis, they are competitive on

1408
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: defense and they I think confused Haskins quite a bit

1409
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: in this game. So Haskins here, that's good to hear.

1410
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't care cares about the Patriots, Patriots winning, upsetting.

1411
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: Just give me my favorite team winning, and I'm a

1412
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: okay on a Sunday. They're on a winning street right now,

1413
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: are you okay? Give a give a hack, give a

1414
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: good hack. I think you can see why I traded

1415
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: this game away, and it even happened minutes into the game,

1416
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: because this is your time to shine, Dan, and I'm

1417
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: glad that they went your way today. Darnald through an

1418
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: awesome passed right on the gate to Daniel Brown the

1419
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: tight end. Two things I found quizzical. One when they

1420
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: ran the ball to Levy on Bell on third and eleven.

1421
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: Why there's just no reason to do that in a

1422
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: situation they were. Secondly though, Secondly though, explain to me,

1423
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,839
Speaker 1: unless I saw this wrong, why is Darwell Loggins carrying

1424
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: around the challenge flags for Adam Gates. Yeah he does,

1425
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: but explain to me what the what it's He said

1426
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: he likes to have someone else holding it. That's all

1427
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: I can so that to me, it feels like start

1428
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: like part of the little works to Adham Gaze that

1429
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: like because it in Miami, to the whole the whole

1430
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: time he was a Dolphins coach. He never he carried

1431
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: his own. He knows more than I do, but it

1432
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: just seems like a like a middleman, unnecessary middleman. Do

1433
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 1: you want to go back to that third and eleven

1434
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: draw and the second now? No, no, I do not,

1435
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: But it well, it was, it was, It was. It

1436
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: was the fourth quarter. It was a total hot mess.

1437
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: They don't need to do that. No, I mean, that

1438
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: was a hard call. I thought it was earlier than that.

1439
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: It was the second quarter, was in the second quarter.

1440
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: But my point, my point is it's been such a

1441
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: before entering last week, the Jets ravaging twelve points a

1442
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: game on offense, there is some real growth. You throw

1443
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 1: out that was a bad play call, but there's been

1444
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: some real growth the last two weeks, and that's what

1445
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: that's what you need. You need to see positivity on

1446
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: that offense. But and on the other side, this was

1447
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: a moment that the Washington Post wrote about and thought

1448
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: it was the lowest moment that the Redskins have hit. Yeah,

1449
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: Thomas Boswell, who was kind of the and I get

1450
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: it though it's half the stadium's half empty. There was

1451
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: a chant at one team at one time to sell

1452
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: the team, but it just sort of died out because

1453
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: there's there's no one there. There where tickets available in

1454
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: the Lower Bowl, which our friend Will Blackman, you know,

1455
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: tweeted out before the game for like ten fifteen bucks

1456
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 1: in twelfth row NFL game, and no, no one's going

1457
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 1: to it. And this is one of the the franchises

1458
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL. This is a team that won three

1459
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, that had if a tradition that goes you

1460
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: know back, and it hasn't all It's been ugly a

1461
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: lot of the time too, if you go go way

1462
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: back with it. But they have a long tradition and

1463
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: they're they're they're dying in Washington. I mean that city

1464
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: is given up on them. They are there behind. You know,

1465
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: they're the fourth or fifth team in Washington right now,

1466
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: which is crazy to think about. A who some of

1467
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: the other our teams are there, but who you know

1468
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 1: that the Redskins. When we talk about the fan basis

1469
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: that been through a lot of pain, Dan like, the

1470
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: Redskins need to be their fans have been through so

1471
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: much it's insane, Lions, Browns. Yet the Redskins are right,

1472
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 1: it's gotten a lot worse. I feel like in the

1473
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: last several years where it's the hope is just starting

1474
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: to just dissipate for them. Right now, I feel like

1475
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: they are at their lowest point. There was a little story,

1476
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, within that column he mentions, how you know,

1477
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: the kick returner at one point turns around. He tries

1478
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: to get the fans to get up, and they just

1479
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: ignore him, and then eventually like three people stand up,

1480
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: and that's that's where they're at A long time wild

1481
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been since r G three's knee injury.

1482
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: It's just been well. They got to the playoffs once

1483
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: with Cousins. They've made the playoffs a couple of times

1484
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 1: a century. But I would put them and I think

1485
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: the win loss record would be there among the worst

1486
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: teams certainly since the turnout of with with a low

1487
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: hope quotient because of who's running the team right now,

1488
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: right and you haven't seen enough. Haskins has only started

1489
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: three games, but it's been pretty shaky. West. You're a historian,

1490
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: you'll want to know this. Jamal Adams became only the

1491
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: second defensive back in the past ten years is to

1492
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: record three sacks in a game. Wyle I saw that

1493
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 1: he has the same number of sacks as Aaron Donald

1494
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: this year, and he's got six. He can break the

1495
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: outtime records for defense of He was not. But that

1496
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: was before before they dangled into trade talks and became Superman,

1497
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: before last week when he stuffed the box school and

1498
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: today haven't exploded. All right, that that's that for that game.

1499
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Speaker 1: Let us now get into it to Sunday night. And

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01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: now GOP wants to go no huddle from the five

1501
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: first goal with Malcolm Brown behind him. They give to

1502
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: Brown straight ahead. He charges in for six clucks down

1503
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: a three one to go in regulation. The Rams take

1504
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: it back to a two store league. Even our old

1505
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: buddy J. B. Long seems just relieved that Malcolm Brown

1506
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: found that end zone to put some distance between the

1507
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: Rams and the lowly Chicago Bears. Yes, a seventeen seven

1508
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,879
Speaker 1: gonna win for the home team at the Los Angeles

1509
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: Memorial Colisseum, a game that Mark Sessler will be remembered. Well,

1510
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if we will be remembered as a

1511
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: w for the Rams and they move on, uh and

1512
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: for the Bears. That what people will be talking about.

1513
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,520
Speaker 1: With three minutes to play, Chase Daniel entered. Mitch Drobinsky exited. Officially,

1514
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: it was listed as a hip injury, but that's only officially.

1515
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: Is this the beginning of the end? That's that's the

1516
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: talking point for a lot of people coming out of

1517
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. At the beginning of the end for

1518
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinsky has been beginning for a while. I don't

1519
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: think that something suddenly turned tonight because it wasn't like

1520
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: a low point Mitch Robinsky game. In general, the offense

1521
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: is plagued with issues. They have not had a running

1522
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: game around him for weeks and weeks. There are drops

1523
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: happening by wide receivers. The environment around Miss Robinsky is

1524
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: not optimal. And I I do if if for some

1525
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: reason we found out the injury. He is not nearly

1526
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: as serious as as or at all. The timing of

1527
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: the switch is something that just creates a week's worth

1528
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: of questions for your team. When you didn't insert that,

1529
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: You didn't insert a first round quarterback that's been on

1530
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: the bench. You inserted Chase Daniel, who is not going

1531
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: to hold anyone off. So it just creates issues for

1532
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: the Bears. We'll see who gets bench for three minutes

1533
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: to play. That's what I mean. The timing is altho.

1534
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: It would have the benching would have happened earlier if

1535
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: the Rams had gotten off the field. I think the

1536
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 1: context is Mitch Drabinsky and look, I don't doubt that

1537
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: he's playing through an injury. They said he was on

1538
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: some level, But the reality is in his previous five

1539
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: drives three and out, three and out one first down,

1540
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: that a punt three and out when they punted the ball.

1541
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: They had been going back and forth punt fest. Is

1542
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: a three point game, there's eight minutes to go. You

1543
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: assume that's when he makes the decision to make a change.

1544
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: So that's thinking, I can go win this game. Our

1545
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: season is hanging on a thread, and I trust Chase

1546
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,799
Speaker 1: Daniel more right now than Mitchell Robinsky. Now that bears defense,

1547
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: it should be mentioned, does what they've done in some

1548
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,919
Speaker 1: big spots this year, which is give up a touchdown

1549
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 1: drive at the absolute worst time. You can't kill them

1550
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 1: because they forced punts, they forced two takeaways in the

1551
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: first quarter, and the offense didn't do anything. But it's

1552
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of a script we've seen for a while,

1553
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: and I've been waiting to see Chase Daniel for a

1554
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: while because I think they're just saying this is not

1555
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: our guy. Drabinsky. What a deflating season for that organization.

1556
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: I think the most deflating season of any organization. To

1557
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: go from Super Bowl contender, you give up the farm

1558
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 1: from for Khalil Mack, you have the coach of the Year,

1559
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: a finalist for Executive of the Year, and now ten

1560
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 1: months later, you might have to start all over at quarterback.

1561
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: You might have to start all over at coach, you

1562
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: might have to start all over at GM and the

1563
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: Raiders on your first round pick forgot about which makes

1564
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: them we That's a good point West and I was

1565
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: I talked about earlier about which teams in the NFC

1566
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: South perhaps would be um teams you look at that

1567
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: might get one of these many veteran quarterbacks on the market.

1568
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: The Bears, especially without a first Tom pick, they might

1569
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 1: be looking for a stop gap and Andy Dalton type

1570
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 1: player or Andy Dalton himself. Who knows. But it's now

1571
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: becoming increasingly clear. And we're doing this obviously Sunday night,

1572
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: twenty minutes after the guy went to the bench, so

1573
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: we'll get a clear picture of what's going around around

1574
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: that team. But just from where we are now, it

1575
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: certainly seems like this is the first real tangible step

1576
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: towards a separation of Trabinsky and the Bears. And give

1577
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: the Rams defense credit. They did what you need to

1578
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: do against a bad offense, and that's just totally hold

1579
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: them down because the Rams offense wasn't much better for

1580
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: most of the game. But Golf and Gurly made enough

1581
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: plays in this game. Golf had about two or three

1582
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: nice throws. He only had six total in the first half,

1583
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 1: and you got the win. If you're a Rams like

1584
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: you don't care how you're getting wins these days. They

1585
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: are in the mix, and I don't totally rule them

1586
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: out because their defense is good. And if you were

1587
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: a total homer. You could say the old line made

1588
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: some big steps today. They blocked well for Todd Gurley,

1589
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: and they protected well for Jared Goff. You just haven't

1590
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: seen any games like that out of the Rams. But

1591
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: that's like picking the most positive things in a pretty

1592
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: right I just say, you don't rest for long. I mean,

1593
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: we were looking at the schedule coming into this recap

1594
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: here Ravens next week, if you're the Rams at the Cardinals,

1595
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: which is no, this is not last year and it's

1596
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 1: not Week three, this is not an easy team to

1597
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: knock out Seahawks, Cowboys, forty Niners and the Cardinals. Again,

1598
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: if the Rams are are even alive for a playoff

1599
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: berth in Week seventeen, the negative things that I feel

1600
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: about them right now will have washed away because they

1601
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: will have earned that big time. Their defense has not

1602
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: allowed more than ten points in a game, and over

1603
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: five weeks. It's a really good defense, and they have

1604
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: one of their best run defenses in the history of

1605
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: their franchise. It's the best Wade Phillips defense in the

1606
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: three years. It's it's ironic because it's coming with obviously

1607
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: the worst offense. But it's crazy to look at the

1608
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: Bears box score. Though they ran seventy four plays, not

1609
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: one of them went for twenty yards. That's stuff to

1610
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 1: do in the NFL. Seventy four play is they held

1611
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: the ball quite a bit. And and this was a

1612
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: typical Rabisky game and that okay, it wasn't his worst game,

1613
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: but he was in decisive There were throws in the

1614
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: first half. War he's always a beat late, you know,

1615
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: he has guys open and he's just kind of a

1616
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: beat late. He has to see it and then the

1617
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: play isn't there anymore. And Jalen Ramsey especially close. One

1618
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: quick thing this week before we fly off on the

1619
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: Rams defense, I get they are playing well. That the

1620
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: ten point thing happened against the Bengals, Steelers and Bears.

1621
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,640
Speaker 1: It's just you couldn't line up a better option for

1622
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: that to happen. Todd Gurley nearly gets his first one

1623
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: yard game. I was my big takeaway if you're looking

1624
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: for positives beyond the defense for the Rams is a killer.

1625
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: I mean, a team that really needed a big play

1626
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: to get excited about. They get the fifty one yard

1627
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: touchdown from Goff to Reynolds in the fourth quarter, wiped

1628
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: out by a really a clumsy illegal procedure with Whitworth

1629
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: being uncovered at the left tackle position. Uh. And then

1630
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: what how do they respond to set of going into

1631
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: a shell? They go six plays and fifty four yards

1632
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: down the field to get that touchdown back seventeen seven.

1633
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 1: So they are far off. It was around this time

1634
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: last year that they won fifty three or whatever against

1635
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It's crazy how far we've come uh since then.

1636
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: And they have a lot of work to do. But

1637
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: they're six and four. That's in the NFC. That's not

1638
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: a great place to be, especially with that schedule. But

1639
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: they have a chance to save this things to remember,

1640
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, I said earlier in the pocket Cardinals, that's

1641
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: a great match up anytime you have it. To the

1642
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: schedule makers, we don't need another Bear's Rams Sunday Night

1643
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: special next year. You know, let's let's not make this

1644
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: a tradition. You were warned. All right, Um, there you go.

1645
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: That's the Sunday Night recap. UH. Two quick things. Number one,

1646
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 1: The reason you're hearing this podcast right now is that

1647
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: we put it out there, not a challenge to demand

1648
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: uh ten thousand followers on our Instagram account. The a

1649
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: t N podcast, we hit it. We hit it this weekend. Eric,

1650
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: I know you were very excited to see that, as

1651
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: were we, as all is the fans of this podcast

1652
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 1: stepped up and we love you. We did not buy

1653
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 1: followers like some people do on Instagram. Just throwing that

1654
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: out there, because you know, I don't have the money

1655
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: or the budget. They're legit, real people, most of them

1656
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: from are you talking about, I don't know. Plenty of

1657
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: people do that, don't they, Erica, I don't know. I

1658
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: think like some people with thousands and thousands sometimes the

1659
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: bought Yeah, and as a gift, as a gift to

1660
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: all these um listeners and and the people that love

1661
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: the video content that we put up often on the

1662
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: Instagram handle. Let's take it back with a little instant

1663
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: replay of West and the Hot Boy Jeans. Let's take

1664
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: a look at this is for video h Fans of

1665
01:26:40,400 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: the show roll it la. But I feel like I'm

1666
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: in a El Doctorro novel, a good work by Ryan Bartlett.

1667
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: Erica Tampos in the whole team back there, West, you

1668
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: are quite a tease. Thank you. That's quite a compliment.

1669
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Tuesday. We'll recap the Monday night

1670
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: football game that closes out Week eleven and then we

1671
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: start looking forward to another week of NFL action. So

1672
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: thank you everybody for listening and watching. Oh yeah, and

1673
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: if you want to see that SloMo of West hunting

1674
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: his leg over and over again. To our audio listeners

1675
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Speaker 1: of kind, feel bad if you didn't step ahead, come

1676
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Speaker 1: come to the Instagram and that will be there at

1677
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: the A T N podcast. Bang there you can't wait

1678
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 1: is Dan handsOn signing off for Quiet Storm, Hot Boy Jeans,

1679
01:27:54,600 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Fricky Hollywood, Ryan Bartlett, Zach, everybody will

1680
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Speaker 1: do thy