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Speaker 3: I watched the whole lot of State game less. I'm

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Speaker 3: telling the guys like I haven't watched the full college

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Speaker 3: football game in a long time, like a lot of.

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Speaker 4: I've always all growns up. He watched a college kids.

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Speaker 4: That's stataboo kid. I loved watching plays right, Not because

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna do anything in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So why don't you like it?

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Speaker 4: Because he's he's kind of a.

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Speaker 2: Dick Balden like that, because he'd be the guy yelling

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Speaker 2: at Paul. Come on first of all.

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Speaker 4: To suggest that I was a lineman. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: pretend I didn't hear that.

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Speaker 2: Now, a cruller that may not be a don't. I

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Speaker 2: like a color donut.

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Speaker 4: Has to be round, just a different shape, right, I mean, like.

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Speaker 3: I say, round clers, like a French crawler.

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Speaker 2: Right, like the French and it has Yeah, those are

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Speaker 2: Those are sticks.

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Speaker 6: Nason is Arth and Aaron, who are you to Sharoncord

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Speaker 6: to their core that towns By yesterday, like I don't

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Speaker 3: I like ice cream and college football, and he just

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jilette Stadium, and you had a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: We got reports coming out about coaches leaving, coaches perhaps

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Speaker 2: coming in, support staff coming in. We have four divisional

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Speaker 2: games that we have to wrap up. We have a

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Speaker 2: national championship game we can kind of talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about. Although I turned it off at halftimes, I.

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Speaker 4: Didn't see an.

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Speaker 3: Well, I watched the first three drives and then I think,

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Speaker 3: I think I know how it is about to.

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Speaker 2: Go exactly this one team has a chance and the

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Speaker 2: other dozen. But we'll get into all of that, and

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Speaker 2: of course your emails and calls. Eight five to five

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Speaker 2: Pass five hundred is the TPX Outline podcast at Patriots

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Speaker 2: guys have a good weekend? Great great week football? Filled?

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Speaker 2: Loved it? Yeah, yeah, Evan Paul deuced myself.

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Speaker 4: Matt Nabooth, I enjoyed the divisional round. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: thought there was some good intensity. I thought they had

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Speaker 4: a championship like field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to see some teams just trading blows,

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Speaker 3: going back and forth, some mistakes, and obviously some controversies.

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Speaker 3: But I just think it's the best football weekend of

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Speaker 3: the of the of the year.

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Speaker 2: For me, it was the worst of all possible outcomes.

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Speaker 4: Now, I know that you have your your hang ups,

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Speaker 4: and I don't think you're wrong. I think you're probably

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Speaker 4: like most Patriots fans, right, you just have all your

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Speaker 4: bad worlds of collected.

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Speaker 2: Those teams who I most want to lose the most

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Speaker 2: one the Chiefs in the Bills and then the detroit

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Speaker 2: who I thought was my best chance of beating either

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Speaker 2: of them. If they get to the Super Bowl, they're out.

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Speaker 2: So it looks like to me, the whoever emerges out

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, I mean over the Eagles or Commanders.

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Speaker 4: I would think, certainly Buffalo, but I would think Kansas

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Speaker 3: But let's see how healthy horse is, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, he's kind of dramatized.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of an X factor for me. I don't

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Speaker 4: I just he he has not approached what he did

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Speaker 4: he just hasn't looked the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know.

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Speaker 4: I probably lead off with some of the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's start. Let's talk about some Patriots stuff.

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Speaker 2: Did we last week? Did we talk about the And again,

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Speaker 2: these are all reports. Nothing has been made official by

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Speaker 4: I didn't know any of this last week, So I

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Speaker 2: So who's got the rundown? Because I certainly will screw

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of the offensive coaches have have moved

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Speaker 6: don't think there's any defensive guys yet that have reportedly

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Speaker 4: We had two assistant offensive line coaches. Deuce your your

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Speaker 4: quizical look is just warranted. I had to double check

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Speaker 4: it because I saw that Peters and McCarthy I think

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Speaker 4: said assistant line coach Mike mccarth and was like, I

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Speaker 4: got that, cool little guy. So I checked the media guide.

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Speaker 4: We had two assistant offensive line coaches last year.

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Speaker 3: It's also well Coogler I mentioned I think he's quote

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Speaker 2: I just didn't have an answer to that. I still

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Speaker 4: He's the Callahan connection. I think, yeah, helped him there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But here's what I'll say the Patriots. We did get

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably right there. And I think Mike

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Speaker 6: The only one I didn't mention that also is in

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Speaker 6: But the rest of them are all the ones that.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned about Troy Brown. Now I know he wasn't

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Speaker 6: But yeah, when it comes to offensive line coach, I

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Speaker 6: the design of the So the best pairings, I would say,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it makes sense get the coordinators and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, gill them for a while and linebackers coach, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Giants guy that was with him in Tennessee, Shane Bowen,

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Speaker 3: So I think that the Miami guy would would fit

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Speaker 2: So how many people do we know that they've interviewed

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Speaker 6: They do that now more to kind of give guys promotions.

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Speaker 4: But those are the two guys that I knew that

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Speaker 4: they requested. Well, not no, because you're right, none of

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Speaker 4: this is official, but according to various reports, an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: There were also two guys.

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Speaker 3: That's Brady. They've said they have interviewed kind of Friday

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Marcus Brady was one, and he was in Sandy

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Speaker 6: Marcus Brady and Thomas Brown?

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Speaker 4: Thomas Brown, Yeah, the Thomas Brown affair.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we should mention that the Bears immediately

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Speaker 4: But any I would say that the Bears mocked the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they all do. It's it's just better.

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Speaker 4: Call it what it is. It's a thing.

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Speaker 2: They mocked it, it is, but we're the ones that

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Speaker 2: get tagged with it because and nobody everybody hates the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was pretty critical that Eddie George interview, and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So Ben Johnson over to the Bears makes sense,

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Speaker 4: Looking like Aaron Glenn to the Jets. Yeah, although that's artificial,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a hallmark of a good coach,

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Speaker 3: tough decisions to be made. Yeah, but that's a tough

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't I would know.

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Speaker 2: You know what you're signing up for carda because my wife,

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Speaker 4: My wife, Judy Parsons.

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Speaker 6: So he's the Rams game management Coordinator, which is becoming

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Speaker 2: So Paul, you you you shouldn't be that person, but

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Speaker 4: Why shouldn't I be that person?

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Speaker 2: Because you can make more money teaching them to do it.

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Speaker 2: So you think I could? Oh yeah, everybody pays you

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Speaker 6: And all this Stuffgible Benefit Academy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you be the Tom House of training in

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Speaker 4: I don't really think there's much of a call for that,

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Speaker 4: Oh I do. I don't think people grow up thinking,

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Speaker 4: you know what I really want to be in life.

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Speaker 4: That's I want to.

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Speaker 2: But think about all the coaches that screw up. I know.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people grow up wanting to be coaches.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be the guy who tells the

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Speaker 2: It's called the cottage industry. It's called adapting to times,

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Speaker 3: We could put Paul on the board right now. Out

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Speaker 4: You guys aren't going to believe this. I didn't have

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Speaker 6: Because because Stretch was in la Is taking care of right, So.

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Speaker 4: I didn't really have, you know, like they were even

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Speaker 4: It was going to be fourth down. They needed to

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Speaker 3: Of Yeah, they thought they were, you know, like themselves.

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Speaker 4: After the sack, they didn't rush to the line, and

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Speaker 2: What did you think of Brady's performance? I thought he

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Speaker 4: He ain't got it, Mike, I ain't got The only

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Speaker 4: And then they came out the first drive of the

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Speaker 4: was self deprecating. No, you're right, Tom, Like it's clear

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Speaker 4: I'd take a step back and pause after this performance

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Speaker 4: anything differently throughout that game, I thought Tom was onto something,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean like from the twenty seven seen Super

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and then you know, he's getting your

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Speaker 4: We're entrusting our organization too. We just get up like

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like that surprised you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: That Lion's performance And yeah, yeah, I mean well, and

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Speaker 3: He just didn't seem like his blood pressure or heart

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Speaker 3: really it's still You've got a good core there, guys

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Speaker 2: You think that the sixty five games or so he

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Speaker 6: Of course, absolutely. Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how

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Speaker 2: You know, not to get down too much in a

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Speaker 4: Him right now.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's exactly what's happening in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Teams like wanting to force guys out well and then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he goes into the portal and goes somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: He actually is he turned already, he declared for the draft.

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Speaker 3: I just thought he showed, you know, some fight. I

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Speaker 6: Interesting to see what happens there because Bobby slowick Is

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Speaker 4: Well, it doesn't matter because that's the life I know.

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Speaker 2: But they voted, Yeah, they should count these games.

441
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Speaker 4: I don't think. I mean, my big takeaway from the

442
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 4: weekend is a lot of these you know, hot shot

443
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 4: assistants didn't really cover themselves in glory. I think Ben

444
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 4: Johnson's double reverse pass was really really ill.

445
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 2: Timed, not needed.

446
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Speaker 4: I think that I already talked about Aaron Glenn. I

447
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 4: think he was the single biggest reason why the Lions lost.

448
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 4: And I thought Joe Brady that was a terrible, terrible

449
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 4: second half game plan that he put together. I don't

450
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 4: know how you can have Josh Allen and decide you

451
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 4: just stay over there, don't get involved in the game,

452
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: stay over there. We're just gonna run every single first down.

453
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: We're going to run the ball. And yet they won again,

454
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Speaker 4: Well they won, Harry. I mean, I believe I was

455
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: rooting for Buffalo, you know, I like Josh Allen, I

456
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: was rooting for Buffalo.

457
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Speaker 2: You hate the Patriots, so it makes sense I couldn't.

458
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Speaker 6: I couldn't root for anybody in that game. I was like,

459
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 6: my like two children. To me, it's like which quarterback

460
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 6: do I root for? Right now? I was devastated that

461
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 6: it ended that way for Lamar because I know the

462
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 6: discourse for him is just going to be nauseating.

463
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Speaker 4: And I was like, drop with you, Like if you

464
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Speaker 4: if you come out of that game and you're like, see,

465
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Speaker 4: you can't win with guys like Lamar Jackson, Like that's

466
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Speaker 4: a you probably like.

467
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: If you watch that, make a couple of mistakes.

468
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Speaker 4: Oh no, No, he wasn't perfect. He didn't play a

469
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: perfect game, but like the interception was laughably bad in

470
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 4: the fall and the ball security and the fumble was

471
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Speaker 4: a bad play. Like I'm not saying he was perfect,

472
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Speaker 4: but if you watched that last drive and you and

473
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Speaker 4: you came away and you said, see, you can't ever

474
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Speaker 4: win with guys like that, BS, that's a you problems.

475
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 4: That was an unbelievable last were amazing.

476
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Speaker 2: We were texting, if Andrews catches the ball, they still

477
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Speaker 2: have over a minute three left.

478
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Speaker 4: Mark Andrews deprived me of my moment. I wanted to

479
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Speaker 4: see Josh.

480
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to see Josh. There's plenty of time even

481
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Speaker 2: if he blew up.

482
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Speaker 4: And you want to like add to the he's a

483
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 4: joker thing, Yeah, Like I think they would have easily

484
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Speaker 4: gone down. And whether or not Best made the field goal,

485
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 4: who knows, because that guy's a little bit of a

486
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: loose cannon too, although he had a good game.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.

488
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Speaker 3: So it's so hard when it's Mark Andrews though, I mean.

489
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Speaker 4: Probably rely on the guy. I just cannot drop that.

490
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Speaker 2: I was trying to remember who's the famous cowboy.

491
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Speaker 4: I think Jackie Smith.

492
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Speaker 2: Jackie Smith, he dropped that.

493
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Speaker 4: He's got to be the sickest man in America.

494
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Speaker 6: As fumbled.

495
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the fumble was the biggest player in the game

496
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Speaker 4: because Baltimore was going down to take the lead on

497
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Speaker 4: that drive.

498
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Speaker 6: Andrews.

499
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Speaker 4: It's the same as the Karen Williams fumble in the

500
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Speaker 4: Rams game. The Rams were absolutely going down to score

501
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Speaker 4: into they were going to take the lead in the

502
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Speaker 4: fourth quarter and Karen Williams fumbled because the best player

503
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Speaker 4: on the field MIC was o.

504
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Speaker 3: Jalen Carter Man faux show. I just think back to

505
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Speaker 3: him being at the when all of a sudden he

506
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: was supposed to speak right and then all of a

507
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: sudden he wasn't because of the legal issue. And you know,

508
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 3: the Eagles get a gift. He probably drops a little bit,

509
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Speaker 3: and you know, credit to them for pouncing on him.

510
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Speaker 3: But man, he's impacting. I think he played every play

511
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Speaker 3: at least of the first half.

512
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Speaker 4: I mean the postseason and pressures too.

513
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's one of the if it's him and Chris

514
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 6: Jones at this point for the top spot amongst.

515
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 4: I was thanking Chris Jones Aaron Donald watching him. He's

516
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Speaker 4: so disruptive from that spot. He's like those guys yep.

517
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Speaker 4: And he won the game for them. They lose if

518
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Speaker 4: it's not I don't care how many yards sa Kuon

519
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Speaker 4: Barkley had. They lose that game if not for Jalen Carter.

520
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Speaker 3: I texted Paul at halftime of that Eagles game, and

521
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: I was like, yep, Paul, almost two hundred yards rushing

522
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Speaker 3: in the first half and they're up by three. It's like, Douce,

523
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Speaker 3: you know me too well.

524
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Speaker 4: It was kind of similar with like Baltimore's like one

525
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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy nine yards and you know, averaged over

526
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Speaker 4: five yards to carry. But yeah, but they're sitting on

527
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Speaker 4: nineteen with two minutes left, and all of a sudden,

528
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Speaker 4: you throw the ball in every play and got on

529
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Speaker 4: the score touchdown. Yeah, you know, that's it's it's hard

530
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Speaker 4: to do it. And listen, both of those teams, Philly

531
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Speaker 4: and Baltimore, they don't just run the ball well. They

532
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Speaker 4: have explosive players in the running game.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but even so.

534
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Speaker 4: Sixty two and seventy eight yard touchdowns for Barkley, I

535
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Speaker 4: think it was like a forty yard run for Hurts,

536
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: like they piled up. I mean, they made big plays

537
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 4: in the running game, but they can't throw it all.

538
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: The difference for Baltimore is lamark and throw it too. Yeah,

539
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 4: you know, that's what makes them So that's why I

540
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 4: said I had a championship feel. I think Baltimore could

541
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Speaker 4: very easily make a claim that they're still the best

542
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Speaker 4: team in football and they're done going it to the

543
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Speaker 4: final four.

544
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Speaker 2: I thought that was like I thought, I thought they

545
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Speaker 2: were were really really good.

546
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was to me. It was the two best

547
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Speaker 6: teams in the league. I agree it happened in the

548
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 6: final eight. This happens all the time. I feel like

549
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 6: in like these tournament settings.

550
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Speaker 2: A few years ago it was Buffalo, but they're estimating

551
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs because they're making it look easy.

552
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Speaker 6: Right now, now, I thought you thought it.

553
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: They made it look easy. I thought everything was like disjointed,

554
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 4: like this is one that I'm with the Patriots fans.

555
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Speaker 2: Well because of their defense those because you're focusing on

556
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: the offense, the defense had control.

557
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Speaker 4: I didn't think so if the if the you know,

558
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 4: Taylor's there control, here we go. I think the referee,

559
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 4: I've said many times that stop being babies. Every critical

560
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: juncture of that game that Houston looked like they were

561
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: starting to like get a little foothold. There was a

562
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 4: ridiculous call and the.

563
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Speaker 8: Flock that and that bugs me. And then they didn't

564
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 8: call that one. They did, in fairness, they didn't call,

565
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 8: but that was the that was the most embarrassing moment

566
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Speaker 8: from Mahomes blatantly is trying.

567
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Speaker 4: For the call. But the two, the two the first

568
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: one I can understand, the will Anderson. It was a

569
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Speaker 4: high hit. I think if you look at the replay again,

570
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: maybe he didn't make contact with the head, but it

571
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: was late and unnecessary, but also behind him.

572
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Speaker 2: You notice what Mahomes did even on that play, snaps

573
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Speaker 2: the head back. Did you see that he knows what

574
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Speaker 2: he's doing.

575
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Speaker 4: I think that that call at least was understandable. The

576
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Speaker 4: second one.

577
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: Where he just drops to the ground in the house.

578
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Speaker 4: I go to those those I go to those meetings

579
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: in training camp when the officials talk to us and

580
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 4: they always tell us, you know, are you are you

581
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: instructed to let a play play out when there's like

582
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: a question whether or not it's a fumble, let it

583
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 4: play out. And then no, we're instructed to call what

584
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: we see. How can you call that a hit when

585
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 4: they never made contact?

586
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: It would make couch and it was so the last

587
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: second sight.

588
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have called it even if they had made

589
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: helmet to helmet content it was so late because it

590
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 4: was so late. But they hit each other.

591
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 2: Right, call what you.

592
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 4: See and they give him. Now listen, do I think

593
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: to your point, Fred, do I think that if they

594
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Speaker 4: didn't call that, the Chiefs were going to lose?

595
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: No?

596
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Speaker 4: I think they would have scored on that drive even

597
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: without that call. But they're too good to give them

598
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Speaker 4: three yards.

599
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: But that's what people were saying about the Patriots for

600
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Speaker 2: twenty years, you.

601
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Speaker 3: Know, I mean, I get it, But at the same time,

602
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: like you could hear Houston like already going in had

603
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 3: the mindset of we're playing the rest too, And then

604
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Speaker 3: when those calls start to happen, even with the horse caller,

605
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Speaker 3: what's the new rule where you slide into the guy's

606
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: feet that they just did this year that wasn't called

607
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: right off the bat slide into the guy, you know,

608
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: the hip drop tackle like right off the bat. But

609
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: you feel like Houston's already like set up mentally to

610
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: be like they, well, here we go.

611
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: Because there it was too many guys that we knew

612
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: we were coming here. It was us against everybody. Like, yeah,

613
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: that's a bad message that Jamago Ryans gave his team

614
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: if that's what the mindset was heading into it.

615
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: That game was the low point of the weekend for me,

616
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: and I just like, and aside from like, I don't

617
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: want to be the Patriots fan who's now bitching about

618
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: the refs, but like the Mahomes thing where he's trying

619
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: to draw halls and it's just it's a bad look

620
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: for the league, and especially when it's your marquee player

621
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Speaker 3: who's in the middle of all these different plays that

622
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: people and and like those plays happen. It's across the

623
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Speaker 3: board on Twitter, everybody.

624
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Speaker 2: In this next game Mahomes that you know, I'll tell

625
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: you what.

626
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Speaker 4: I thought that might have been a like a trickle

627
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: down effect.

628
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Freddy Is.

629
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Speaker 4: I watched the like that was the first game, and

630
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Speaker 4: I wonder if like there was a talk with the officials,

631
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: because I thought they were much more with and I

632
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 4: think for the better. I didn't think there was any

633
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: call that was missed. I know, like Lamar had one

634
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: that he was running to the sideline and he kind

635
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: of got dragged out of bounce, but the contact started

636
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 4: in the field of play and then it followed through

637
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: like that's hard to just tell a guy, Okay, now

638
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 4: you need to stop because now over here it was legal,

639
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 4: but now you're in the white it's not. He already

640
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 4: had him. Yeah, that absolutely, I think that would have

641
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: been a flag if it was Mahomes.

642
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just the feeling the Mahome hated that holding

643
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: call on that poor left hack.

644
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 6: There was another text moment friends, a very big and

645
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: line Twitter right now the snatch move, like yeah, snatch

646
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 6: move is a technique that.

647
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 4: Every one of them goes. That's coaching, take every one

648
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: of your doors.

649
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: I did that in pop Water. I learned that and

650
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: I was taking this guy down on everybody. Yeah, and

651
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: he started aching that's okay, Well.

652
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 6: If you're going to get long arm, then there's really

653
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 6: nothing else that you do. Like if you're going to

654
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 6: get you know, bulrush long arm, like that's the counter Like,

655
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 6: that's the teaching point from a coaching perspective. You know,

656
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 6: if you get long arm, you knock the arm down.

657
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 6: And if you're going to get called for holding for that,

658
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 6: now that was that.

659
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Was a bad call. Now that was the only penalty

660
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 4: on the Bills in the game. But that but that

661
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Speaker 4: took but that took points off the board for Buffalo

662
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Speaker 4: when you put it that way, well, they weren't there.

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Speaker 4: There was only six penalties in the game, and like

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Speaker 4: three of them there was a delayed game and two

665
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Speaker 4: false starts. I think the passing the finance was a

666
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Speaker 4: terrible call on Tredavius White.

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Speaker 3: That was not I was with you, though, Paul, with

668
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Speaker 3: the just the weather of those two games on Sunday

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Speaker 3: where and I heard Kurt Warner say this. It was

670
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Speaker 3: you know, look, I get it, like we have to

671
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Speaker 3: you know teams like when I was in Arizona, but

672
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Speaker 3: there's just no way to prepare for us. Like especially,

673
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Speaker 3: I thought it was too big of an impact.

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Speaker 4: There was a big difference once it got really bad

675
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Speaker 4: that I thought there was a big difference between There

676
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Speaker 4: was like a span of time where the Rams clearly

677
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Speaker 4: weren't adjusting to the weather and they I think were

678
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Speaker 4: to Evan's point, like Philly doesn't have that sophisticated to

679
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Speaker 4: a passing game and the Rams do. And I think

680
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: it really hurt the Rams.

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Speaker 2: They just had a thing on one of Paul's TV shows,

682
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Speaker 2: NBC Sports Boston. It was a poll or a ranking poll,

683
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Speaker 2: non playoff team that's most likely to rebound next year.

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Speaker 2: Number one was the Bengals. I can't understand that, you know,

685
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Speaker 2: Burrow and all, that they can score points I can

686
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Speaker 2: get to get. Number two was the Cowboys. Can we

687
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Speaker 2: wait to see who their coaches? I mean, like, why

688
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: do they always get the benefit of the doubt that team?

689
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Speaker 4: Well, people probably assume the quarterback will be healthy next year.

690
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Speaker 4: He wasn't this year. Maybe so they'll be better.

691
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Speaker 2: Okay, but even when he was better, what if they won? Yeah,

692
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Speaker 2: well what if.

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Speaker 4: They want or will they be better than a losing team?

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Speaker 4: So they'll bounce back.

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Speaker 2: Well to find bounce back to me, bounce back in

696
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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll probably make the playoffs. They make the playoffs

698
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Speaker 4: when Dak Prescott's healthy. As a general rule, to your point,

699
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Speaker 4: they don't win anything when they get there. Yeah, but

700
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Speaker 4: they're a playoff team if the quarterback is healthy. They

701
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: went seven and ten? What them tricky facts?

702
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Speaker 3: You you were tricky facts?

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Speaker 2: So commanders to now, So getting back to where we started,

704
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Speaker 2: it was the worst outcome for me because the Bills

705
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Speaker 2: and getting back to me, Bills and the Chiefs are

706
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: both in the in the AFC Championship now, so there's

707
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Speaker 2: a fifty percent chance that one of these two teams

708
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Speaker 2: that I most want w.

709
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Speaker 4: To What don't you hate the Eagles too? But it

710
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: was one of your underrated Hayes three out of four.

711
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Speaker 4: You have to root for them.

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Speaker 3: I know, command and I think you left out though,

713
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Speaker 3: But I mean, like Jayden Daniels winning a super Bowl,

714
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Speaker 3: that's probably not great for Drake may right, and not

715
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Speaker 3: a great look. Maybe a little bit little bit that does.

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Speaker 4: That put on can I play the role of my shows?

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Speaker 4: Does that put on due pressure on Drake May? Is

718
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Speaker 4: he falling behind? Fallen behind? That's how they do it.

719
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Speaker 4: Tailor is like in the feudal position.

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Speaker 6: But d Rowland in the Super Bowl. Think about the

721
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Speaker 6: Chad Ryland kick though, all see like it goes back

722
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Speaker 6: And I don't understand that argument because he missed the

723
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Speaker 6: kick against the Giants, which was the bigger on the

724
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Speaker 6: draft order, Like, it really bugs me when he does that.

725
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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie because I'm like it just that's

726
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Speaker 6: logically incorrect.

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Speaker 4: The fact that the game was tied, like they could

728
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Speaker 4: have won it over time.

729
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Speaker 6: He says, like it cost him. Jayden Daniels like, no,

730
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Speaker 6: he got them Drake May by missing the kick against

731
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Speaker 6: the Gickets.

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Speaker 9: There you go.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how we don't see that.

734
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Speaker 2: So here's how I'm making lemonade out of these lemons.

735
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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Chiefs now because not to win it,

736
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Speaker 2: but at least to win the AC Championship because if

737
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: they do win the Super Bowl, it'll be three in

738
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: a row and it'll kind of like be a reason

739
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: for Patriots fans to start over to say, all right,

740
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: forget about the dynasty. This team's just as good as

741
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Speaker 2: we were. They're actually doing it in a shorter period

742
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: of time. There's no reason. There's no reason for them

743
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Speaker 2: to start losing because Mahomes is healthy. Reads there, they're

744
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: gonna continue winning up and when Brady played Mahomes. I know,

745
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying that now Patriots.

746
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Speaker 4: Fans will they didn't get there nine times.

747
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Speaker 2: Patriots fans will be forced to look ahead and stop

748
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Speaker 2: looking back.

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Speaker 4: No, I understand what you're saying. It was funny like

750
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Speaker 4: Shaughnessy had a column this morning and he's like just

751
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: sort of shut up and deal with it, you know.

752
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: But he had a part of it like it's like

753
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Speaker 4: they'll never do what the Patriots did, and he had

754
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 4: like the nine you know, how do you know? I

755
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: don't really know how you can like the reason the better.

756
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: The reason why Patriots fans are a little antsy is

757
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: because they see the possibilities. Right, the guy is still young,

758
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: and there's I'm sorry, as long as he's healthy, they

759
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: will have a chance every year, just like I say,

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Speaker 4: Buffalo will have a chance every year, and Baltimore will

761
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Speaker 4: have a chance every year. As long as those quarterbacks

762
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Speaker 4: are healthy, they're going to have a chance to get

763
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Speaker 4: their teams to this spot.

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Speaker 2: And they know how to win.

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Speaker 6: You know, if they were playing straight up in the

766
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Speaker 6: AFC Championship game, i'd pay Buffalo and the landslide. But

767
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Speaker 6: we we already know it's not going to be straight up,

768
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Speaker 6: so I would assume wait.

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Speaker 4: Snakeman, because of the refs play.

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Speaker 6: It's just pretty obvious, like at this point with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: And also just like they they just keep on lucking

772
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Speaker 6: out on so many different things, like you just got that,

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Speaker 6: like more missfield goals.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that was us, Like good teams forced

775
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: bad good teams forced the other team into.

776
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Speaker 4: Said they said to Fred that Mark Andrews dropping the

777
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Speaker 4: two point conversion was Brady era Patriots opponent.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean other teams made those mistakes because

779
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: the pressures on them when they play US.

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Speaker 6: Well, they're not going to play straight up in the

781
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Speaker 6: APES Championship.

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Speaker 2: And now, what's the Taylor Swift effect? You think the

783
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: league is saying, you know, we like her. Yeah, they've

784
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Speaker 2: got everybody in the booth.

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Speaker 3: Now, Like I just I wasn't overly impressed with this

786
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Speaker 3: Chiefs team. Somehow they just keep winning, so you have

787
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Speaker 3: to respect that. But but at the same time, like Buffalout,

788
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: they've really impressed me this year, and Philadelphia has impressed

789
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Speaker 3: me at times. I don't trust Jalen Hurts, But I

790
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: just if they win these next two games and win

791
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: another Super Bowl, it'll be it'll be a pretty remarkable achievement.

792
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Speaker 3: Given what this team is shown over the course of

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Speaker 3: this year. It's just not all that impressive to me.

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Speaker 4: I just would hope if they if they do win it,

795
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: I can live with it. But I just hope that

796
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: it's not like games like Saturdays. Can we can we

797
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: just have them win the game because they're better than

798
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 4: the other team, like and they don't have these plays

799
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Speaker 4: in these They can't these flute like to Evan's point,

800
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 4: like the miss field goals and the bad plays on

801
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 4: special teams, the bad calls at the wrong times. Can

802
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: we just have it be straight up and have Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: Win two games out because they can't? Like all right,

804
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Speaker 6: this is where I'm.

805
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Speaker 2: Going to.

806
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Speaker 4: I think I don't think every game was handed they have.

807
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: They have a game winning field goal against Denver that

808
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 6: gets blocked from thirty five yards out and win the game.

809
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 6: Like other games, it happens every single week that something

810
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 6: like this with Kansas City happens.

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Speaker 2: They were winning a lot of last second game.

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Speaker 4: This is like everywhere.

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Speaker 2: But that's a good team.

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00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 4: But that's yeah, I don't that's I don't hold that

815
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Speaker 4: against the team.

816
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 6: I'm not sure they're good.

817
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm defending the Chiefs.

818
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm defending the Patriot. I don't. Yeah, I don't

819
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: take it to that extreme, but I do. I do

820
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: get frustrated with the Mahomes treatment as much as I

821
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: think Mahomes is unbelievable, but I do get frustrated with

822
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: the Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: What I can't live with is the Bills winning the

824
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That to me, that's that's the worst. That

825
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: would be the worst of all outcomes.

826
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Speaker 6: I don't know they would be in.

827
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Speaker 3: They're already in sufferable.

828
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: I know, that's what I'm saying.

829
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Speaker 6: The idea of having to watch another Chiefs Eagles super

830
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 6: Bowl just pains me so much that I'm okay with

831
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 6: the Bills winning because.

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Speaker 4: I have no But you also, like Josh, I have,

833
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 4: but I have not, But.

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Speaker 6: I have no desire to watch another Chiefs Eagles Super Bowl,

835
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Speaker 6: especially this version of the Chiefs and the Eagles. The

836
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 6: teams two years ago put on a great show. That

837
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 6: was a really good game in the Super Bowl. This

838
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 6: is this is not that?

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Speaker 4: How about a J Brown after you know, the passing

840
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: games out. We gotta do this, We got to do that.

841
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: I mean those a pretty bad performance. Yeah yeah, that

842
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: drop it the goal line that was that was a really.

843
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: Bad They should they should get they should cut him

844
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Speaker 3: loose and we should take some One guy that I

845
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: will give some flowers to on the Chiefs is Trum McDuffie.

846
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: I thought he was really he was outstanding in that game.

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 3: Anytime they had to like need it play going an

848
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: Eco Collins strange so maybe.

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Speaker 6: You know the Bills will actually cover Travis Kelsey, who

850
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 6: like can't run anymore, and it still gets open.

851
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: I can't believe he didn't get a touchdown on that

852
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 4: one that he sort of cut that. I was like,

853
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 4: there's nobody there and they still ran him down inside

854
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 4: the ten.

855
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: All right, past Like this worries it angers me watching them.

856
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Speaker 2: Eight five with the past five hundred is the TPS

857
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Speaker 2: About Me podcast at Patriots dot Com is the email address.

858
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Speaker 2: Let's hear what everyone has to say in how their

859
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Speaker 2: weekend went. We'll start on the TPX outline. We'll start

860
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Speaker 2: with William and Philam what's up? William William And I.

861
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Speaker 4: Was a little I was a little surprised because I

862
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 4: had some takes that I thought were a little bit

863
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: outside of the box that I thought Evan would probably

864
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 4: you know, like what push back. I don't know, just in.

865
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Speaker 6: General, well, like the Ben Johnson thing, I just I

866
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Speaker 6: guess I just really don't feel like defending him today because.

867
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Speaker 4: That wouldn't be one of them that that was a

868
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Speaker 4: bad that was a bad time to come.

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Speaker 6: So everybody gets mad at him for calling the trick play,

870
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 6: but all the other trick plays that the Lions run

871
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 6: all year long that everybody goes Google Gaga for, it's like, yeah, there,

872
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: it's a risk, Like you're running a trick play. You're

873
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 6: gonna happen, but there's a time and a place, right,

874
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 6: But oh, Jamison Williams, I'm sure is coach, if this

875
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 6: is wide open, you throw it away into the tenth row,

876
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 6: Like why is that why you don't call it? But

877
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 6: it's first down, Like just throw the ball away? He's

878
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 6: not open scream.

879
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: It seemed a little unneeded at the time, but I.

880
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: Felt like he's only going to get that fifty yards

881
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 4: and now make it a three point game. That's probably

882
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 4: still eight minutes.

883
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 6: But let's say every single trick play the Lions that

884
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 6: ran over the last couple of years is that. You know,

885
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 6: do they really need to run the hook and ladder

886
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 6: when they're up by three touchdowns?

887
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: No?

888
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they weren't up by three touchdowns.

889
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: Yes, that's my that's the time and place, Like you

890
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: basically have to score in this drive.

891
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 6: I just have a like, Jamison Williams made a bad decision.

892
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 6: Now you can sit here and say, why do you

893
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 6: have the receiver throwing the ball? Fine, but like I

894
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 6: also just think it's hypocritical. I think it's hypocritical that

895
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 6: we're gonna blame Ben Johnson for his offense having five

896
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 6: hundred yards and thirty one points.

897
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: What did I tell you was the reason why they lost?

898
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

899
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: No, but I just think it I'm not offense. You

900
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: put thirty one on the ball five times and still

901
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: put thirty one on the board. That's how good a

902
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: coordinator he is. I just didn't like that.

903
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 6: Play called everybody sits here and says that blames it

904
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 6: on on Ben Johnson and the coordinators. Like you're telling

905
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 6: me that this Dan Campbell, like it's the culture, it's

906
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: the it's all. But he skates, right, it's the it's

907
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 6: the two coordinator's fault now, Like no, Like.

908
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: Well, they didn't have it. He didn't skate on the

909
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: NFC championship last last year. That was all on Campbell

910
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: and they didn't have those egregious you know, mistakes game management, right.

911
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 6: But this argument get a coach like that, right, that

912
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 6: he's going to build up the culture and he's gonna

913
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 6: build like everybody's gonna play hard, and everybody's gonna be

914
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: together and all that kind of stuff that that team

915
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 6: that was a one and done disappointment like that was

916
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 6: that was a terrible.

917
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: Loss, but the enemy of twenty ten.

918
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: But then the coordinators getta get the heat for it, right,

919
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 6: Like it just to me, it's like you're if he's

920
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 6: gonna get all this credit for building this great program, Well,

921
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 6: people like.

922
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: You don't give him any credit for anything. You say,

923
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: it's all about the coordinators.

924
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm very interested.

925
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: So now the coordinators let him down.

926
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 6: I'm very interested to see where they go from here

927
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 6: because I think they have a mediocre quarterback that was

928
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 6: being propped up by agree.

929
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: That's so hard, That's all I was looking for a.

930
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 6: Little I really don't scratch. I think Campbell is like

931
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 6: a horrible coach, like I don't. I don't have a

932
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 6: little string.

933
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: But I don't think he's all that like horrible.

934
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 6: Might be a little strong, but I I I don't

935
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 6: think that he's a very good coach. I think that

936
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 6: his his decision making is mostly reckless. And they've gotten

937
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 6: away with it for a couple of years because they're

938
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 6: that good. And and I think that he's been carried

939
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 6: in a lot of ways by those courts.

940
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: He looks like he's getting bigger in the post Campbell,

941
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: He's maybe the podium is getting smaller. I don't know,

942
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: he's huge. Like you know, we got our guy who's

943
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 4: pretty big, Rabes, Dan Campbell is.

944
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 3: I'll take big' take Rabes. He's country to Did you

945
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: see any of our Did you see any of our

946
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: poor friend Hardy at the Detroit Lions game?

947
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: No?

948
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: But I asked Paul if anyone did a wellness check

949
00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: on him?

950
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: He was there good seats to fifty Fred and Hardy

951
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 4: Fred and Hardy Tough.

952
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 6: We can't be mad. We can't criticize him because he

953
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 6: cried at the press conference.

954
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 4: Well, I don't criticize him for that. I'm just saying

955
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: he's a bit of a crier. It's very emotional. Dick

956
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: Vermill cried every every time he spoke.

957
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the Lions, they're going to regret they should

958
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 6: hire Ben Johnson.

959
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: Oh there.

960
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: I think they're going to do the do the Bruce

961
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 4: Arians thing.

962
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah in Tampa of push a bumble upstairs and yeah.

963
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: Question just real quick while we're on it. With Ben Johnson,

964
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: do you think he goes to the Bears and and

965
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: keeps running all the trick plays? You have to build

966
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: up to that. Can you do that right out of

967
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: the gate.

968
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: You need a three score bleed?

969
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 4: Well, I think you do have to sort of build

970
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: up to it. But yeah, I would expect him to

971
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: show that creativity.

972
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: Because sometimes it felt like they were just trying to

973
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: prove a point or stick it to somebody or something.

974
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 6: I just think that in general, my like the trick

975
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 6: play thing with Ben Johnson and the Lions, I think

976
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 6: gets way overblown like I think that what makes their

977
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: offense great is all the other stuff and not in

978
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 6: the trick place.

979
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: Johnson will get involved in the selection of the fingernail

980
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 2: polish color each game.

981
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: It's an interesting combination those two, that quarterback and that head.

982
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: Like I don't know much about Ben Johnson, but I've

983
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: seen him. He seems intense, he seems quiet, and Caleb

984
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Williams seems a little bit intense and quiet and a

985
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: little weird too. I just I wonder what that is.

986
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 3: Gonna do a lot.

987
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: Of running this week. I go with Puce Peas.

988
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 6: But he does have a nice combination. Like Dennis Allen's

989
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 6: gonna be his defensive coordinator, which is what everybody said, Like,

990
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 6: if you're gonna you need a veteran coordinator, there's been

991
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 6: a head coach preferably He's got that sounds like Darren

992
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 6: Rizzy's gonna come down and coach special teams too, So

993
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 6: like they are gonna have a really good staff. It's

994
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 6: gonna be really good the riz.

995
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: All Right, So Phil in Toronto has a very important question.

996
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: He says, a Jersey Mike's is opening up here in

997
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Toronto on Wednesday, and I'm a big sandwich guy, so

998
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm excited to try it. However, this will be a

999
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: one time visit for the foreseeable future. Is I have

1000
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: certain dietary restrictions, Which sandwich would you recommend to get

1001
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: the most out of this one visit? Well, it depends

1002
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: on what your diet very restrictions.

1003
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: Evan will be able to talk to you about your

1004
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 4: dietary restrictions. But my choice would be the thirteen. Mike's way.

1005
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go with thirteen. That's the Italian.

1006
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 6: It depends on you know what you want, Like I

1007
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 6: think that Chipotle cheese steak is the best thing. My

1008
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 6: son loves that on the menu. That's if you want.

1009
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 6: If you're going to eat a cheese steak. The turkey

1010
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 6: you and I yea. The Italian are also solid.

1011
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: Simple turkey is bad enough on things.

1012
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: They have a good steak and cheese.

1013
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: They have a good steak is very good.

1014
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: But if your dietary restriction is weak, then.

1015
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: I believe you're getting Milton.

1016
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: That's about it.

1017
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: But the thirteen you can't go wrong if you like Italians?

1018
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: Correct?

1019
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 5: You know?

1020
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: And why wouldn't you like it?

1021
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Uh Grant and Minnesota watching Ohio State last

1022
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: night and saw Evan's tweet on Amika Agbuca, and it

1023
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: got me thinking about a thought I've always had about them.

1024
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: We never draft Ohio State players. With all the good

1025
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: teams and receivers they've had, It's crazy we never took

1026
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: a shot on someone from there.

1027
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: I never really thought of it.

1028
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 6: I think the last big player that they've heard.

1029
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: All I can think of is Yep, and I believe

1030
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: this was the Jim trest Hill area era. Did Belichick

1031
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: have a vendenna against Ohio State, Urban Meyer or Ryan Day?

1032
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever.

1033
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: Took all of Urban Meyers guys when he was in Florida?

1034
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever heard anything about this or thought

1035
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: about it before? I feel like, with all the good

1036
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: teams they've had, we should have taken a shot on

1037
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: somebody from there.

1038
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've this has been discussed. Not to pick on

1039
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 6: the email, but I think there was something that might

1040
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 6: have happened there, maybe a certain tight end that Bill

1041
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 6: felt like maybe the intel wasn't great on and that

1042
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 6: could have possibly.

1043
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: The relationships down Urban Meyer.

1044
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 6: Possibly. I'm just that's probably not true. I'm totally speculated.

1045
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 4: I would have been more mad at the Jermaine Cunningham.

1046
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 6: But I just wonder if there was something like that

1047
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 6: that would have been that Bill thought that the intel

1048
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: that he was getting wasn't great. Maybe it was that, maybe,

1049
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 6: you know, just player valuation or whatever. But it has

1050
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: been discussed that they have not taken a lot of

1051
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 6: Ohio State guys, and we talked about it a little

1052
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 6: bit off the air. The estimation is that sixteen Buckeyes

1053
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 6: are going to be drafted this year, which would be

1054
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: a record for one program. So there are going to

1055
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 6: be a lot of Ohio State talk. You know, both

1056
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 6: edge rushers, Buka, their left tackle who was hurt, didn't

1057
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 6: even play in the National Championship Game. He's going to

1058
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 6: be a high draft pick. They have a lot of

1059
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 6: NFL talent, a lot spiin Fresno.

1060
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: I guess they have a me problem, he says. Yes,

1061
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: Lamar's last drive was Brady esque. Yes, he's an electric

1062
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: player in the league. But I don't know how you

1063
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: look at his postseason track record and just dismiss it

1064
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: out of hand in your overall account of the player.

1065
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: He hasn't won two in a row in the postseason,

1066
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: and he's always been part of the reason why, whether

1067
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: it's throwing into triple coverage last year or his ball

1068
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: security this year. He's not the only talented player in

1069
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: history to have precipitous drop off, as in the playoffs

1070
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: Marino Romo rivers. I just don't know why it's a

1071
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: me problem to acknowledge the fact that Lamar belongs in

1072
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: that category so far.

1073
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 4: I listen, I can't argue with you.

1074
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: When a player tells you he gets antsy in those situations,

1075
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: believe him.

1076
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I don't think he looked like he

1077
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: was antsy. You don't think in certainly not in the

1078
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 4: second half of that game. I think he willed his

1079
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: team back into the game. I think they were dead

1080
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: and buried at the half twenty one to ten, Buffalo's

1081
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 4: got the ball to come out. Joe Brady and Lamar

1082
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: Jackson were the two reasons why Baltimore had a chance,

1083
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: And I can't argue those are all facts. He hasn't

1084
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: won two in a row. He had two turnovers in

1085
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: the game. Speed's right, I mean, I mean, I just

1086
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: look at it and say, I don't think they have

1087
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 4: any a little help. That last drive wasn't Brady esque. Yeah,

1088
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: that last drive was unprecedented. Him running around throwing darts

1089
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 4: twenty five yards down the field like that wasn't Brady,

1090
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: Like Brady would be surgical with as Evan talked about earlier,

1091
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 4: with you know, sort of the dnking dunking and getting

1092
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: in position, just betting perfect with every throw. This was

1093
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: like just an individual effort three players in like Tyland

1094
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: Wallace out of nowhere with like a twenty seven yard

1095
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: completion that was sick. And the amount of time that

1096
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 4: he buys to get these guys wide open. I mean

1097
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: to me, that last drive was was special. Maybe I

1098
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: go back He's right everything he said.

1099
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I go back on what I said earlier about MVP.

1100
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: I know the playoffs don't count, but maybe this proves

1101
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: it is all just Lamar, or it is Lamar more

1102
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: than it is all just Josh Allen, because like you said,

1103
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: they're running the ball in Buffalo.

1104
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 4: Well they ran the ball more in Baltimore.

1105
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: But it's it's also his legs.

1106
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 6: You know, they both impact, they both run the ball,

1107
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: but so much of his legs like impact the whole thing, right, like.

1108
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: They was making there, Like you don't count that in

1109
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: the rushing, but if you add up the yards. He

1110
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: runs behind the line of scrimmage.

1111
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 4: Right, you know, And this is normally what Buffalo does,

1112
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: except for Joe Brady decided we have enough points at

1113
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: halftime of this game. We're not gonna try to score

1114
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 4: anymore in the second half. I think he egregiously affected

1115
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: that game with his play calling in the second half.

1116
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: I don't know how you can have a guy like

1117
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Okay, you want to be a little conservative,

1118
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 4: maybe you don't want him throwing it down the field

1119
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: as much. Can you let him throw it at least

1120
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: five yards? Everything was either a quick screen to someone

1121
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 4: that the Ravens were eating up or first down run,

1122
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: first down run, first down run. They had one drive

1123
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: when it was twenty four to nineteen. The first five

1124
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 4: out of six plays of the drive were Josh Allen completions.

1125
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: They got to the twenty yard line and they did

1126
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: nothing but run it from there, and they ended up

1127
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: getting stopped on third down from the two. Even if

1128
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: you say, okay, we're gonna have Josh, maybe roll out

1129
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 4: and have an option. If you don't want to throw it, fine,

1130
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 4: you just take a shotgun snap and have him just

1131
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 4: plow horse ahead. Like Baltimore was too good for that.

1132
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: That worked once earlier in the game. You can't just

1133
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: do the same stuff against teams that are that are.

1134
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: As good as you are, right well, and that what

1135
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, is this the narrative that's waiting

1136
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: for Josh Allen if he loses to Mahomes again. So

1137
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: at a certain point you have to credit the fact

1138
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: that the AFC has three or four really good quarterbacks

1139
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: right now in these games.

1140
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 4: Is I look that game, Josh Allen. I heard someone

1141
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 4: say Josh Allen did nothing in this game. Josh Allen

1142
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: did not make a single mistake in the game. He

1143
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 4: did the play every single time.

1144
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he wanted to he wanted to see that.

1145
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he thought about it. He thought about like lateraling

1146
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: that back. And I was like, oh my god, this

1147
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: is that. This would be like Josh, this would be

1148
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 4: like rookie year Josh Allen on steroids, Like here we go.

1149
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 6: But this is it. They're a good chance. And maybe

1150
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 6: Josh Allen loses next week and he can be in

1151
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 6: this category two. But that they both have like Peyton

1152
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 6: Manning like careers where it takes them a while to

1153
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 6: break through because they have the Mahomes in the way

1154
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 6: or they have each other in the way, and then

1155
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 6: you're eight if you know, one of them wins the

1156
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 6: super Bowl. Like I feel like that's where we're headed

1157
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 6: with both these guys. And I think the one nice

1158
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 6: thing is about watching these guys as not a fan

1159
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 6: of either team, is like, I just don't care about

1160
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 6: the outcome of the game. I just want them to

1161
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 6: do cool stuff, so like it doesn't bother me whether

1162
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 6: they win or they lose, and it doesn't become this

1163
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 6: whole discourse about the player.

1164
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 4: That was kind of like the Buffalo Baltimore game had

1165
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: that kind of feel for me a little bit, and

1166
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: it was the same as the Kansas City Buffalo game

1167
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 4: from a few years ago. In the division around like

1168
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 4: I'm just watching greatness on the watching I'm watching offense.

1169
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm watching these two guys just execute at such a

1170
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: high level. You know, it's not my team, so I'm

1171
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: not as emotionally invested. I just enjoyed it. That's why

1172
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 4: I said, I feel like we were because Mark Andrews

1173
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: dropped that pass, I felt like we were deprived of

1174
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 4: another the you know, theater trip and you know one

1175
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 4: thing that White.

1176
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 6: People get so mad about like, oh, like Lamar's you know,

1177
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 6: choking or whatever, like why do you if it's not

1178
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 6: your team, and why.

1179
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: Do you well because they had this takee and now

1180
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: they're backing it up.

1181
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: And it's my point though, is that I don't let

1182
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: the like watch the game and tell me that you

1183
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: thought that he can't win, right, Like, I'm not telling

1184
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 4: you he was perfect, but when he had to be perfect,

1185
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: he was and he did everything but hand the ball

1186
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: to Mark Andrews on the two point conversion. There's been

1187
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 4: very little talk of John Harbaugh going for two the

1188
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: first time, which I thought was a bad decision. A

1189
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: so they cut it to twenty one nineteen still in

1190
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: the third quarter. They usually tell you don't go for

1191
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: two until you have to.

1192
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: Well, I don't care it hurt by going for two.

1193
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: If you go for one, you make it. Now it's

1194
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: the one point game instead of a two point game.

1195
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: What's the difference?

1196
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: So now you win. You either win the game with

1197
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: the two point conversion at the end, or you kick

1198
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 4: it and go to overtime.

1199
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: No I know, but at the time, like you still

1200
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: you need a field goal either way to win the game.

1201
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: At that present time, whether you made the two point

1202
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: or not, it's either two point game or a one

1203
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: point game.

1204
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 10: No.

1205
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, if they made the two it would have been tied. Okay, well,

1206
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 4: if you kick it, it goes to one. It was

1207
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: twenty one nineteen.

1208
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: They ran for two. I got you, So they missed it.

1209
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: Now here's my bigger problem, and this back to my

1210
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 4: overall theme. I thought a lot of these hot shot

1211
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: assistant coaches that are all in line for head coaching jobs,

1212
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: I don't think many of them covered themselves with glory

1213
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: when that drive that they made it twenty one to

1214
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 4: nineteen was Derek Henry ten yards, Justice Hill ten yards.

1215
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: Derek Henry twelve yards, Justice Hill ten yards. They score

1216
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 4: a touchdown, and what do they do for the two

1217
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 4: point conversion?

1218
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 6: They throw the ball.

1219
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: No, I just run it in it. They couldn't stop you,

1220
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: but they weren't shopping though.

1221
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: If you're down by two at that point in the game,

1222
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: I still say going for the two point conversion made sense.

1223
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: No, that's fine. I'm saying run the ball. You just

1224
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 4: ran it down the throat on that drive. That was

1225
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 4: the first time the whole game that Derek Henry got traction.

1226
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 4: They shut him down in the first half, they did,

1227
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 4: they did in the second half. They figured it out.

1228
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: But that happens a lot with Derek Henry early on.

1229
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: It takes him a little while.

1230
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 4: Right, So write them, Yeah, don't throw the ball, makes

1231
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: a good play, knocks the pass down, and they keep

1232
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: the lead. I thought they kept the momentum. I think

1233
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: if they kicked the extra point there, which is I

1234
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: think the thing to do. I think the whole the

1235
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: rest of the game unfolds differently.

1236
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 6: It's an interesting conversation though about you know, he's talking

1237
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 6: about the assistance. All these guys are are going to

1238
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 6: get jobs anyways, most likely not all of them, but

1239
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: most of them. Yeah, And so the question is is, like,

1240
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 6: it's one game, right, It's one It's it's one playoff game,

1241
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 6: and like, how how much does that outweigh the seventeen

1242
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 6: games that they played before that, you know, and how

1243
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 6: important do we how much weight should we put on

1244
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 6: one playoff game?

1245
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't have that. I mean,

1246
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 4: like the thing, I'm not gonna like he gave me some.

1247
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 6: Pos but I could hear it either way.

1248
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 4: Todd Mounkan was one play, I would not necessarily say

1249
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 4: same with Ben Johnson. I was one play I didn't like.

1250
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't necessarily be affected. But now, just you know,

1251
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: all these guys are all about the hot shots and

1252
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: it's kind of a weak crop of coaching Canada. It's

1253
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 4: in general, I thought, yeah, it's it's shallow.

1254
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 6: I mean, Ben Johnson's a really goot.

1255
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson shallows the best.

1256
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean we had our coach is great,

1257
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: we love it. Ben Johnson's good. So it's a shallow and.

1258
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 4: We had a nice little talk with him today.

1259
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 10: That was.

1260
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 6: That was cool.

1261
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, go away.

1262
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the TPX outline. Brent's and Reno.

1263
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 6: Hey, Brent, Hey, guys, I just got.

1264
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 11: A quick question for you, and I'll take the answer

1265
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 11: off air. Do you guys think that based off of

1266
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 11: our needs within the next couple of seasons, you know,

1267
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 11: through the offensive line and the receivers, and there are

1268
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 11: needs on defense, Like, is there enough people coming up

1269
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 11: in free agency and the draft to be able to

1270
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 11: fill all those and get us in the playoffs and

1271
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 11: one to two seasons or do you think it's gonna.

1272
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 12: Be like four or five?

1273
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're not gonna fill all your needs. Thanks

1274
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: for the call, you know, you hope to fill three

1275
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: or four. And but I think where you're gonna make

1276
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: progress over the long term is you know, signing these

1277
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 2: mid level guys, you know, the guys that kind of

1278
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 2: is your you know, there's a difference between foundational players

1279
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: and players that make up your foundation, you know what

1280
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you need a lot of guys to

1281
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: make up a foundation. They're not necessarily your stars, like

1282
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: guys that you build around, but they're the guys you

1283
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: build on top of.

1284
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 6: It can't take five years five years, no no, no, no,

1285
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 6: Bible won't have a job.

1286
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 2: But it's not gonna be one. It's not gonna be

1287
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: you know, Listen, you can turn it around very quickly.

1288
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 2: The command just showed that you got to you gotta

1289
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: be perfect almost to do that. But in two years yeah,

1290
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: hell yeah, well hell yeah.

1291
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: And there's things like you know, the left tackle for

1292
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: the for Washington that they drafted this year, you know,

1293
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: and he worked out Like sometimes it happens that way

1294
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: that guys you don't necessarily expect to all of a

1295
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: sudden as send to a level where they're maybe competent

1296
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: or better. I think we're a little bit skewed the

1297
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: last couple of years because the opposite has happened. You've

1298
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: seen guys that you believe in that are playing under

1299
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: what you think that they're capable of doing. So if

1300
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: you get the program going and guys are buying in

1301
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 3: and then they're you know, the rising tide raises all

1302
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: ships that you know, guys you don't expect can be

1303
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: competent and part of a way you get good coaching.

1304
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't underestimate that.

1305
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 6: But they should be contending. I'm not saying in the playoffs,

1306
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 6: but they should be contending for the postseason next year.

1307
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should.

1308
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 6: Be a team that is playing, you know, real football

1309
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 6: games in December next year.

1310
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't know how you watched the games last weekend,

1311
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: not this weekend, but last weekend and not think that

1312
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: they're like, you know, like these teams are okay, the

1313
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: six to seventh seeds, like five six that they're good.

1314
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 4: I'll tell you after the offseason. I'm not dismissing that

1315
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: as out of hand, but I you know, like if

1316
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: you would told me that last year at this time,

1317
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 4: I would have said, yeah, I could see it, but

1318
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: not after the off season that they have Well.

1319
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying that that's that should be the expectation,

1320
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 6: like the expectations should be that they should have a

1321
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 6: good offseason and that they should be building towards again

1322
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 6: playing meaningful football late in the season. I'm not saying

1323
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 6: they're going to make the playoffs or win playoff games

1324
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 6: or whatever. But if they're not playing meaningful football in

1325
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 6: December and January of next year, then something went wrong.

1326
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: William's back William and fellon what's up? I give you

1327
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: another try and you're not there again?

1328
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: Wow, He's gonna be really mad.

1329
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackson's in West Virginia. Hey Jackson, you know it's.

1330
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: I got a question.

1331
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 13: I think it leans towards the Evans side here as

1332
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 13: we get into the draft talk free agency talk. When

1333
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 13: you talk about wide receivers, can can you explain a

1334
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 13: bit like the difference between X and Z and I

1335
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 13: don't you call why the slot, just the difference between

1336
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 13: those positions, what they actually are, and what we're kind

1337
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 13: of looking for in those positions, and maybe even who

1338
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 13: we have on the team.

1339
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: And then okay, quick, quick primer on the wide receiver

1340
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: letter system.

1341
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: I could do it too.

1342
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's not bad, I know.

1343
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 6: I mean the X receiver is.

1344
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: Just your your.

1345
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 6: Backside boundary receiver, right, So he's the guy that's gonna

1346
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 6: line up on the outside, opposite the side of the

1347
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 6: tight end, and he's gonna play the boundary you'r Z

1348
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: receiver or your flanker as some other people have called

1349
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 6: it is more of like a chess piece, right, He's

1350
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 6: the guy that's gonna move inside outside play off the

1351
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage so that you can move him around

1352
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 6: a little bit more. And then the slots, you know,

1353
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 6: obviously the slot so that that's those are the three positions,

1354
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 6: and what type of receiver that is varies like it

1355
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: usually you think of an X receiver as you know,

1356
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 6: I think the prototypical X receiver that everybody always thinks

1357
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 6: of as like Calvin Johnson, right, like he's you know,

1358
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 6: the six foot four down the field threat outside guy.

1359
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 6: But really what you're looking for is a guy that

1360
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 6: can win one on one, you know, just somebody that's

1361
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 6: gonna see a lot of press coverage, a lot of

1362
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 6: man to man backside. Can he win a one on

1363
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 6: one consistently or tilt coverage in his direction because he's

1364
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 6: so darn good that they have to account for him.

1365
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 6: Z Receivers are a lot more about versatility, I would say,

1366
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 6: and winning at the first and second level. Your chain

1367
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 6: mover of your offense, but it varies, so you can

1368
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 6: you know that can change based off of skill sets.

1369
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 6: You know, Tyreek Hill plays a lot of X in Miami.

1370
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 6: He's not built like Megatron, you know, So it really

1371
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 6: just depends on what you want in terms of your offense.

1372
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: Yep uh. And then you have the h back. Let's

1373
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: see Jeffrey in Canada. We all got to see the

1374
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: best teams and the best players this weekend. The draft

1375
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: strategy at four is simple. Draft a good player who

1376
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: was good and productive player in college. Example, Jamair Gibbs

1377
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: not saying we should draft a running back, but kudos

1378
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: to the Lions for ignoring draft experts and saying we

1379
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: want this guy. We don't care if he's a running back.

1380
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: To me, he's the most explosive player in the league

1381
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: right now. So if Abdul Carter is the best player,

1382
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: take them. Just get good players, and good coaches can

1383
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: use the good players to win games.

1384
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 6: So the pushback on Jamiir Gibbs though, is the Lions

1385
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 6: were already basically a finished product, So Jamir Gibbs was

1386
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 6: a luxury pick. Like they have had the luxury to

1387
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 6: go out and pick a guy at a non premium

1388
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 6: position like Jamir Gibbs that early in the draft. You know,

1389
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 6: ask the Carolina Panthers with Christian McCaffrey, like how that went?

1390
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: Or the Falcons would be John Robinson, or the Giants

1391
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 6: with Sakuon Barkley, Like that's what you don't want to

1392
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 6: do with the running back position. When you're the Lions

1393
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 6: and you already have an offensive line, and you already

1394
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 6: have Penny Sewel, and you already have all these other pieces,

1395
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: you can take a guy like Jamiir Gibbs. The Patriots

1396
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 6: took Sony Michelle right, like that you can.

1397
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Do about the Giants taking Barkley. Yeah, I did just

1398
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: say that, Oh did you?

1399
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 6: And how did that go?

1400
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 3: I like the point though, because I think you watched

1401
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: all these teams this weekend, wat.

1402
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 6: We all do it.

1403
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: They all stack so many good drafts. You just look

1404
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 3: at like you remember these guys and how they've been

1405
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: building for a while, and you know, eventually Penny Sool,

1406
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: Like you remember them drafted him a few years ago.

1407
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: They were building pieces putting him in place. They ascend

1408
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: it to a higher level and then you get to

1409
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: that point finally where you can take luxury picks. But

1410
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: I think all those teams just represent a little bit

1411
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: of they've been stacking drafts for a while now, and

1412
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 3: that's something the Patriots happened to you.

1413
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Lions are just they had that draft that

1414
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 6: it was Gibbs, it was Jack Campbell, it was Brian

1415
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 6: Branch And it's like all these positions playing and playing

1416
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 6: that that are that people will say it, you know,

1417
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 6: in the draft knicks faces because they weren't there Campbell

1418
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 6: the premium position players, right, But they already had Aiden Hutchinson,

1419
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 6: they already had Penny Sewel, they already had Jared Goff,

1420
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 6: like they already had a Monroe, Saint Brown, j Williams. Right,

1421
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 6: So they were just like drafting guys to supplement what

1422
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 6: they had already had. When you're the team like the Patriots.

1423
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 6: The Patriots need Aiden Hutchinson, they don't need Jack Campbell,

1424
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 6: you know. And that's like I think the situation.

1425
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 2: That I think they need both they could use Jack

1426
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,479
Speaker 2: Campbell too, right.

1427
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 4: But Evan's point is individually, those guys aren't going to

1428
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 4: make a difference on this team. Like they could have

1429
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 4: taken Jamier Gibbs. The twenty twenty four Patriots with Jamiir

1430
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: Gibbs playing would have been four and thirteen. Yeah, Like,

1431
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: it's not just getting it right right, getting getting a

1432
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 4: lot of players right. That's what Mike's point about stacking drafts.

1433
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: It's the only way out of this mess is they

1434
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 4: got to start drafting better.

1435
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: Yep, Ford and Savannah, says Paul exclamation point, Ford, don't

1436
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 2: pooh pooh starting a game management school. If the coaching

1437
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: decisions this year have taught us anything it's that they

1438
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: could greatly use your services. Matt Eberflus could still have

1439
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: a job, The Falcons could be in the playoffs, et cetera.

1440
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: There you go.

1441
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: What about like the high school level? You watch high

1442
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 3: school games where it's admittedly much less polished and professional,

1443
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 3: Like I imagine high school coaches screw it up a

1444
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: lot when you're watching those games.

1445
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's different. I mean that's like it's more execution,

1446
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 4: Like it's more like you can only do so much with.

1447
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: The decisions are easier. Give it to our best athlete right.

1448
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: With the talent that you have available, it's hard to

1449
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 4: just say, like he's gotta get out of bounds there,

1450
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

1451
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: Like you know, like most parents are yelling at stupid stuff,

1452
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: and you're.

1453
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: Yelling, why could you use the time out there?

1454
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 4: Like you know, accentuate the left guard? Can we can? We?

1455
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 6: High school offenses, though, are impressive, Like some of these

1456
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 6: offenses are are really sophisticated offenses that are doing some

1457
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 6: stuff that trickles up.

1458
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 4: Honestly, you'd like our offense to be honest.

1459
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 6: Now, there's a lot of offenses that are doing a

1460
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 6: lot of a lot of motion, a lot of a

1461
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 6: lot of stuff, you know, that are now the college

1462
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 6: game in the NFL game are picking up.

1463
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: On David Wright saying, well, it took you guys long

1464
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: enough to come around, but I'm glad you finally did.

1465
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 2: The NFL is rigged in favor of the Kansas City Swifts.

1466
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 2: If I have to look at her face after every

1467
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: completed pass during the Super Bowl, I think I'll just

1468
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: record it and watch the commercials the next day. Taylor

1469
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: Swift is the worst thing to happen to the NFL

1470
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: since CTE. Oh come on, it's Fred. You are normally

1471
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: my favorite character. But your thought process for rooting for

1472
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs over the bill, this is the mark of

1473
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 2: a true psychopath.

1474
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: I actually like Taylor Swift, no problem.

1475
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 6: I have no problem with it. But if you don't

1476
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 6: think that it impacts a little.

1477
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 4: Bit, oh, I don't think it impacts the game at all.

1478
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, but through the roof every single I.

1479
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: Think it's kind of funny that she that like she's there,

1480
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: she gets it, like she clearly has no clue and

1481
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 4: you know her. And Caitlyn Clark.

1482
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: Says that Caitlyn was a little uncomfortable, like she was listening.

1483
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, she didn't know whether it like to

1484
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: like be smiling, and she's a botherer. She seemed a

1485
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 2: little uncomfortable.

1486
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 4: There, and she got mad because she's actually a chief Span.

1487
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 4: She grew up a Chiefs fan. She grew up in Iowa. Yeah, like,

1488
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 4: and that's her team. And I think people were like, oh,

1489
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 4: now she's just riding the coach.

1490
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: They say, poor Caitlyn.

1491
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark, Alex writes, everybody agrees because.

1492
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 2: No one's watching.

1493
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 4: Alex and Brawley.

1494
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm with Evan. I can't watch another Chiefs Eagle Super Bowl.

1495
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: My dad is a Commanders fan, so I'll be ruining

1496
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: for them. But I would be okay with Josh Allen

1497
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: winning because he's a great quarterback. The Chiefs are good,

1498
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: and I understand why people were frustrated with the Patriots

1499
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: with the Patriots won when they won, I guess he

1500
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: spelled it ow ay. There is a big difference though,

1501
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: is that Brady wasn't adding as much theatrics as Mahomes

1502
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: to get the calls. It's a bad look. He's a

1503
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: great quarterback, just poor taste to do that.

1504
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 4: It's a very bad look on Saturday. But Brady did

1505
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 4: it all the time I listen.

1506
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was any problem with that. So

1507
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to complain about Mahomes.

1508
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 4: Oh I'll complain about it.

1509
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: I know you will. If you complain about.

1510
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 6: It, then that's not my issue with the Chiefs. I

1511
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 6: just when you like, just watch them, I test wise,

1512
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 6: they just seems like there's other teams that are better,

1513
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 6: and it's frustrating to me that then we get into

1514
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 6: the games and they're just finding these quirky ways, but.

1515
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 4: Frustrate you when the other teams seemingly were better than

1516
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: the Patriots. But as Fred said, the Patriots made them

1517
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 4: play there less than their best.

1518
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 6: I mean, but because they question were these other teams

1519
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 6: really better than the Patriots, like really truly better?

1520
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: Well they weren't, but that's the point they like you

1521
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: want to read that.

1522
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: According to Albert Brier, the Patriots interviewed Vikings assistant and

1523
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: it's gone.

1524
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this guy's like twenty eight and he's like Ozinski. Yeah,

1525
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 6: and apparently he is very, very sought after and people

1526
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 6: think extremely high of him. But he's very young. He's like,

1527
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 6: I think he's twenty eight years old and would be

1528
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 6: the youngest coordinator maybe in the history of the NFL.

1529
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 6: If I'm tired as a coordinator, and I think he's

1530
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 6: going to wow.

1531
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 4: Just like as a point of confundate, you're just like,

1532
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 4: you know, in twenty eighteen, I think a lot of

1533
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 4: people would have thought the Chiefs are probably the better

1534
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 4: team here, but the Patriots are going to find a

1535
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 4: way to get that call when the game's on the

1536
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: line and they win the game. It's the same thing

1537
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 4: you're talking about now.

1538
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 6: I agree with that in comparison to an extent, but

1539
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 6: the Patriots are also at a much different point of

1540
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 6: the dynasty at that point, Like this is supposed.

1541
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 4: To be, well, this is a reset for Kansas City.

1542
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 6: But they're supposed to be like Mahomes is in his prime.

1543
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but everybody else is like all that. The rest

1544
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: of the guys are certainly not in their prime, and

1545
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: they don't have the offense that they've had in the past.

1546
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of similar to the eighteen team

1547
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: that they didn't have that power offense.

1548
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 6: There's a lot of similarities. I just don't think that

1549
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 6: Mahomes and Brady are at all in a similar spot.

1550
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 6: So like, you know, like that offense should be a

1551
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 6: lot better than a lot of.

1552
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 2: People were calling that game the passing of the Torch.

1553
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: That was where Kansas City finally, you know, and and

1554
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: Brady wouldn't allow for that.

1555
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 4: But I mean, even like some of the some of

1556
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 4: the early Colts games that when the games were in Indianapolis,

1557
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 4: they would shootouts, and the games were here in the weather,

1558
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 4: they weren't yeah, you know, and like the Patriots found

1559
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 4: a way to you know, just do just enough and

1560
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: they they would have it here. But I think a

1561
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 4: lot of people thought that the Colts were at least

1562
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 4: they were equal, if not better. Now in three, I

1563
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 4: think they.

1564
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 2: Were, and they were season Patriots playoffs four, I.

1565
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 4: Don't well, I mean manning Bee the Patriots more often

1566
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 4: than not in the play six didn't count. Yeah it

1567
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 4: neither did the flu It neither did thirteen and fifteen

1568
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 4: I guess had Rodney Harris. Yeah, they didn't count either

1569
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 4: Rodanney Harrish or that was or six? Valentin from swim

1570
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 4: thirteen and fifteen.

1571
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't remember what happened, Paul. All

1572
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: I know. All I know is they lost.

1573
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 4: I remember what happened, barely throw the ball and remember it.

1574
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: All injuries. All that fifteen was terrible.

1575
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's a lot of a lot of injuries. Yeah,

1576
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries.

1577
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: Valentin writes in Lamar is a great player. But this

1578
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: year the Ravens were three and six counting Sunday when

1579
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 2: Henry doesn't run for one hundred yards. The Ravens were

1580
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: going as far as Henry would take them. In my opinion,

1581
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: the reason the Ravens lost this game is because Lamar

1582
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 2: made crucial mistakes and Allan didn't make any correlation causation.

1583
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: There you go, math. I know it's difficult. I think

1584
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: Henry hurt Lamar for the MVP. That's why I voted

1585
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: for Josh Allen.

1586
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 4: You had a vote, Yeah, okay, yeah. I would say

1587
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 4: if Derek Henry got thirteen more yards, they don't win

1588
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 4: because Mark Andrews dropped a two point conversion.

1589
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 6: They're very good when Derek Henry runs for more than

1590
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 6: one hundred yards because they're winning the game. Right, So

1591
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 6: Derek Henry.

1592
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 4: Said thirteen more yards wouldn't have been the difference in

1593
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 4: the game. I don't know. If Mark Andrews doesn't fumble

1594
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 4: and he doesn't drop a pass, I think we're looking

1595
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 4: at an entirely different game, right. But you know, as

1596
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 4: I like to say, if my aunt had balls, you'd

1597
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 4: beat my uncle.

1598
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: John writes in referees have been horrible this year, and

1599
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: I think it has to do with the ticki tack calls.

1600
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: Every time they make a ticki tack call and then

1601
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: miss an obvious call, it makes the fans feel like

1602
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 2: they're being cheated. Calls have always been missed, but there

1603
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 2: seem to have been more TICKI tack stuff this year.

1604
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: Also draft to tackle with our first pick, not because

1605
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: it's safe, but because they are harder to find. Right now,

1606
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,480
Speaker 2: there are starting wide receiver one options in free agency.

1607
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about starting tackles option.

1608
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 4: And some people don't even think he's a one.

1609
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1610
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 4: T Higgins is. To me, he's a one, But some

1611
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 4: people don't think he's a one. They think he wouldn't

1612
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: be anywhere near what he is without Jamar Chase.

1613
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 3: No, I just you got to take the best available player,

1614
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 3: regardless of need, especially a four.

1615
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 4: I mean to reach on a guy myself into Abdul Carter.

1616
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, talk yourself into it.

1617
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 4: No, I mean being the guy won at four. Yeah.

1618
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm trying not to count the table guy.

1619
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm not. I don't have a table to pound, but

1620
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: we used to have a table. Now now we have this.

1621
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean I've been thereund the coffee turtle for

1622
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 6: for a little while. Now I feel like since that

1623
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 6: what conference is he in again? Big Ten Championship Game,

1624
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 6: the seventeen million conferences?

1625
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 2: Uh?

1626
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's to me, is the best player they could

1627
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 6: probably get at that spot. I just don't now it's

1628
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 6: a that's stupid conversation to whether or not he's going

1629
01:11:59,520 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 6: to be there.

1630
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 2: No, that's really but you know, you complain about the

1631
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: defense and the regression that it had. If you want

1632
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 2: to play complimentary football, you got to get a rush.

1633
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: You got to get some type of pressure up front, right,

1634
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: and especially as a pass rusher.

1635
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what you need. That's one of

1636
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 3: the big five positions. And to say that, well, we'll

1637
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 3: just get by next year. You know, a couple of

1638
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 3: you know, group efforts.

1639
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 4: Big five positions were guard, guard, long snap guard, gunner, gunner, yeah,

1640
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 4: vice vice guy, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, I think the nose

1641
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 4: tackle quarterback.

1642
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 6: But I think this was in his those Browns notes

1643
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 6: that go around this every year in the off season.

1644
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 4: Bill's Big Five. Mike says, I was being a sarcastic jerk.

1645
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: But how do you not watch like Jalen Carter and

1646
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 3: not think like, yeah, we don't need a super disruptive

1647
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: guy in the front seven who's going to impact the game.

1648
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 3: Almost so you have to find guys that scored the

1649
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: touchdowns and prevent the touchdowns. And he used to talk

1650
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: about the edge rushers in the corner on defense of

1651
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,520
Speaker 3: the two guys that are most important for preventing the touchdowns,

1652
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,879
Speaker 3: you know, and he had.

1653
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: You know, but his thing about edge rushing and picking

1654
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: guys that were exclusively pressure guys. He didn't like doing

1655
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: that because he liked the versatility. But you had to

1656
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: be like that elite.

1657
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, for him, you had to be six four and

1658
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: running four to six. But that's why eliminated your pool,

1659
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 4: right Draatically.

1660
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 3: That's why Abdul Carter's appealing is that he's a move

1661
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: it around exposed different matchups. I mean, you can do

1662
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff with him. He's played off the

1663
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: ball a little bit. I mean you just look at him.

1664
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 3: He's he's electric. I mean, he just has that like

1665
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 3: energy about him that you see. I know it's you know,

1666
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: he's not Michael Parsons, but you see the same kind

1667
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 3: of just energy that he exerts on every play. It's

1668
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 3: it's i mean, it's exciting.

1669
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: Better than Chandler Jones.

1670
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Chandler.

1671
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1672
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 6: It's really intriguing to give him to Mike rabele To

1673
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 6: as a former pass rusher himself, and like allow him

1674
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 6: to because he's only played one year of edge. He

1675
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 6: played off ball linebacker for Penn State before that, so

1676
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 6: he's still pretty new to that position. So just the

1677
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 6: idea of, you know, giving him to a coach like

1678
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 6: Rabel that can help him kind of get to that

1679
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 6: next step with his technique and things like that is

1680
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 6: really enticing. And then he's also already doing this with

1681
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 6: really not a lot of experience of that position.

1682
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: I was just to say, your thing, because you have

1683
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 3: some contacts at Penn State. Also spoke highly of his.

1684
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: Character, correct, Yeah, yeah, I was just like a player.

1685
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: A fellow player just thinks the world of him from

1686
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 4: a character standpoint and a desire standpoint, had a lot

1687
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 4: of really nice things to say about him. We had

1688
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 4: a thing last week that I wanted to get back

1689
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: to because a lot of people I had a lot

1690
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 4: of feedback on Twitter. Someone had written in about all

1691
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: the guys they let go, Yeah grown guys. Yeah, you know,

1692
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 4: they got to stop letting all the homegrown guys go.

1693
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 4: And well I wanted to push back a little bit

1694
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 4: because I had said, you know, I don't think there

1695
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 4: were that many of them, and people like started bombarding

1696
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 4: me with all these examples. I guess I should have

1697
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,919
Speaker 4: been a little bit more clear. I meant like currently

1698
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: like Joe Tooney, to a lesser extent, Shack Mason. I

1699
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 4: would say those guys count, but I had, you know,

1700
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 4: Chandler Jones. It was ten years ago.

1701
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: He had homegrown stuff.

1702
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 4: And I'm not even talking about like whether or not

1703
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 4: they were that they were you know, Richard Seymour, Logan Mankins,

1704
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 4: you know, you know, Chandler Jones. Somebody wrote Mike Haynes,

1705
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 4: which which I actually said, well done, sir. That was funny,

1706
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 4: you know, Like I wasn't necessarily talking ever, Yeah, I

1707
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 4: just meant like in this sort of currency and these

1708
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 4: you know, and and I do think there were there

1709
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: was probably more than I've given credit for. I mean,

1710
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 4: I think certainly Tony stands at the top of the list,

1711
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 4: but Shaq Mason to Teddy Carris. Teddy Carris is a

1712
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 4: guy that they could have held on to. I mean,

1713
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 4: you certainly wouldn't need all three of those guys, but

1714
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 4: you know, some combination.

1715
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 6: Now, well, there are types of players.

1716
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 4: I just brought him now personally, but that's.

1717
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 6: I don't think you do. Like I think those are

1718
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 6: the types of players that He's not a needle mover,

1719
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 6: but he's a solid NFL starting caliber guard and I

1720
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 6: don't think they have two of those right now. So

1721
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 6: you know, you have those types of players. I think

1722
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 6: that's what Washington is doing. Like Washington didn't go out

1723
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 6: in free agency and make these splash signings. They sign

1724
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 6: guys like Ted Carriss who are just solid, well rounded

1725
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 6: guys that came into that team and made their their

1726
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 6: floor higher.

1727
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1728
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 6: It's yeah, I.

1729
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 4: Just wanted like just because I had a lot of

1730
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 4: people and no one was really like, you know, like

1731
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 4: snapping at me, right. They just would give me a

1732
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 4: lot of examples. I saw that, and I was just like,

1733
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 4: this isn't really what I was talking about, Like you know,

1734
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 4: in in nineteen ninety seven, letting a guy go, you know,

1735
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 4: Curtis by Knes.

1736
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Speaker 3: We'll just go back like eight years, right, like two

1737
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 3: draft cycles pretty much, I means.

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 4: And I'm just talking about more, you know, like this

1739
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 4: current regime, and certainly those those three offensive linemen would count,

1740
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 4: you know there, and there have been others that they've

1741
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: they've like someone put j. C. Jackson on the list.

1742
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, sorry, j C. Jackson's not a guy that

1743
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 4: they should have been clamoring to re sign. I didn't.

1744
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 4: I just don't feel like it was as big an

1745
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 4: issue as as others, but there were. I mean, I

1746
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 4: like those kinds of things that you get the feedback

1747
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 4: from and you like it because you're pause to think, Sure.

1748
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. My food's here when

1749
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,960
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Speaker 15: I don't want to add any pressure, but you're you

1771
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 15: probably won't be, but you're here.

1772
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 2: You're here to save us, like the entire region. Like

1773
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 2: are you aware?

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01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think we're all aware of what? Okay? What are.

1775
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 2: We have high expectations and so do I.

1776
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 5: Yours aren't higher than mine.

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01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 16: I I just on that note, like, you are a

1778
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 16: guy obviously the Jets. I'm you were rumored with every

1779
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 16: opening that you were going to potentially have an opportunity

1780
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 16: to coach in the NFL for several teams. If you

1781
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 16: could dial it, you know, to signify one thing why

1782
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 16: you chose to come back and coach this Patriots team?

1783
01:18:58,760 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 5: What would it be?

1784
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 17: Well, I don't think there is just one, but I

1785
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 17: just like I said, it just it's it's the right time,

1786
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 17: it's the right place, with the right people.

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01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 15: Were you this team? WIGGI brought up money. This team

1788
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 15: has over one hundred and thirty million dollars available salary

1789
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 15: cap wise.

1790
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 5: He's always talking about money.

1791
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 2: That's what happens, he will make a lot when you play.

1792
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 15: I think that you know from the outside one K,

1793
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 15: I gotta wait till sixty five.

1794
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 18: If you need a tight end, you sixty five?

1795
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, failing.

1796
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 15: If you're hiring Wiggy, you missed this probably, but Wiggy did.

1797
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 15: Was the head coach of the Brockton football team for

1798
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,959
Speaker 15: one year, trying.

1799
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 5: To get back to the kids.

1800
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 2: Just one season.

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 15: The boxes, Yeah, the boxes, the boxes, just one year.

1802
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 15: But if you're hiring yeah, I mean, but were you

1803
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 15: able to in your discussions with.

1804
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 5: Only for option routes? You doing you ain't coaching blocking?

1805
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 5: I mean he really blocks. Now withdys Let's be honest,

1806
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 5: what tight end?

1807
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 15: Where were you able to get assurances from Robert during

1808
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 15: your discussions when considering this job, that that you are

1809
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 15: going to be able to spend that money.

1810
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm comfortable that you know that Elliot and I

1811
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,799
Speaker 17: are going to be able to find ways to add

1812
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 17: productive players, great people, uh to this football team. And

1813
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 17: that's through the draft, that's through free agency. So I'm

1814
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 17: confident that we'll be able to have the resources that

1815
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 17: we need to to go sign players within within a limit.

1816
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 17: And we understand that free agency isn't the only answer.

1817
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 17: It's not one hundred percent, as you all know. But

1818
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 17: it's about adding the right players and that we feel

1819
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 17: like can help the team and that we're we're comfortable

1820
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 17: with And sometimes if you don't know them, you also

1821
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 17: don't know what you're going to get.

1822
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: Is this still a destination when it comes to free agents?

1823
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think that we have to. We

1824
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 5: have to make it a destination.

1825
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 17: And again, I'll tell you a story about free agency

1826
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 17: when I got to.

1827
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 5: When I got to Houston, they had natural.

1828
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 17: Grass in the their dome and they would wheel it

1829
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 17: out and they'd cut it into sections, and I'm like,

1830
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 17: this is unique, Like what's this And they are like, well,

1831
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 17: you know, we thought that they would the free agents

1832
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 17: would want to play on natural grass. They said, the

1833
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 17: only thing free agents care about is green and.

1834
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 5: It's not naturally. So there's two forms of free agency.

1835
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 17: It's the one is trying to go out and maximize

1836
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 17: your earning potential and go for the top dollar. And

1837
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 17: we see that early on in free agency, the first

1838
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 17: couple of days, that maybe the first week. Then after

1839
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 17: that I try to tell players it comes down to

1840
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 17: opportunity and what's you know, if you'd want the best

1841
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 17: opportunity to go and be able to produce and contribute,

1842
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 17: and then that's going to lead to then the next,

1843
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 17: you know, form of free agency where then you can

1844
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 17: take advantage of the system in a year or two

1845
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 17: or whatever, you sign with us. So you know, I

1846
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,480
Speaker 17: was one of those players that are coming from Pittsburgh

1847
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 17: and sign in here.

1848
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 5: It was about the opportunity.

1849
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 17: It wasn't about the dollars that turned into being able

1850
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 17: to have those types of contracts as as my.

1851
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 5: Career went on and a production increased and all those

1852
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 5: other things.

1853
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 17: So we're going to identify players at all different levels

1854
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 17: and and it's a process putting it all together.

1855
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 15: Maybe if you provide free books on the sidelines, you

1856
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 15: might be able to get a certain wide receiver here.

1857
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 5: We'll see.

1858
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 2: But was he a big reader back when you guys

1859
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: were together.

1860
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 17: I think Aj is just trying to find ways to

1861
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 17: I'm proud of his development, his personal development and working

1862
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 17: on himself and working on controling his and getting back

1863
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 17: to center. And again, he's a passionate player and I

1864
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 17: love him to death and I have a very very

1865
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 17: close relationship with him.

1866
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 16: That book's like number one on bestsellers right now skyrocketed.

1867
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, good for him.

1868
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: He wants the audio book.

1869
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, voracious reader, you're talking about our audio book. Bill.

1870
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: We have a special guest on the line.

1871
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 5: Oh we do.

1872
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, that Billy and the car that wanted to us.

1873
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: In the car.

1874
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 15: All right, well let's hire, let's go to them. Let's

1875
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 15: let's go to Billy from Chestnut Hill.

1876
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 10: Hey, Billy, the first time caller.

1877
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 5: Longtime listener.

1878
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 4: It is Bill O'Brien.

1879
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 10: And pots let's go Patriots.

1880
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 5: You got any players up there? Yeah, Billy, we find

1881
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 5: any players.

1882
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 10: Man, are you gonna Hey man, you gotta come come

1883
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 10: to our pro day, come speak to our team. I

1884
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 10: mean I've already put my DIBs in on that. So

1885
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 10: uh now I'm I'm excited for Mike. I'm excited for

1886
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 10: the Patriots, and uh it's gonna be awesome, no question.

1887
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: No question.

1888
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 17: They Boston College is in good hands. They have great

1889
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 17: coaching staff, great leadership, got great facilities.

1890
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,440
Speaker 5: They redid the facilion a couple of years ago. It's unbelievable.

1891
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 5: So Billy, I can't believe that.

1892
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 17: Uh I get to see you know, I can tell

1893
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 17: you some stories about working for.

1894
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 5: Billy, Oh, so call him the teapot.

1895
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: The teapot.

1896
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 5: They'd go off, and then thirty seconds later he'd be like,

1897
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 5: what what's wrong with you guys? Why are you looking

1898
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 5: at it?

1899
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 18: I'm like, Billy just cussed out every one of us

1900
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 18: for thirty seconds, and now you're looking at us like

1901
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 18: what's wrong? So the teapot would just boil over, and

1902
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:19,440
Speaker 18: then he was fine.

1903
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 15: Would you when when he and Tom went at it?

1904
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 15: Would you go over and calm him both down?

1905
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: Oh?

1906
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 18: He gave way to Tom like that was just Billy

1907
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 18: trying to add tough on the TV.

1908
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 15: Well he did, I gotta tell you, I'm sure I

1909
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 15: don't know if he saw the press conference yesterday, but

1910
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 15: he Mike said a lot of nice things about you,

1911
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 15: and you lived up to the promise to turn him

1912
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 15: into a head coach.

1913
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 2: So something to be proud of, Bill.

1914
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 10: No. I appreciated those comments. And you know, like I've

1915
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 10: said several times this week that you know, Mike's a

1916
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 10: great coach. He was a greatsssistant coach. He's been a

1917
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 10: hell of a head coach and he's exactly what the

1918
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 10: Patriots need. And uh, you know he'll come in there

1919
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 10: and he'll treat every everybody in that building with great

1920
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 10: respect and and and he'll be fair with every player,

1921
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 10: but he'll demand a lot and the standard of of

1922
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 10: how they practice and how they lift weights, and how

1923
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 10: they run and how they condition and obviously how they

1924
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 10: play games and how they execute. You know, it'll be

1925
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 10: way up there, Sore. Everybody in the region is excited,

1926
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 10: and uh, it's great for the Patriots and and uh,

1927
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 10: you know, great for like.

1928
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 15: Any advice for him on navigating the waters around here,

1929
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 15: any uh, any area, any offices he should stay out.

1930
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 5: Of, avoid bowling or probably the one I'm sitting in

1931
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 5: right now, the media studio.

1932
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 15: Yeah, this is the one to stay out. Unfortunate, unfortunately

1933
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 15: you're contractually required. Oh you haven't read my co All right,

1934
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 15: Bill O'Brien, we will. We'll talk to you again Thursday.

1935
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 15: But great to hear from you.

1936
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 5: You guys, you see.

1937
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 6: And now great moments in.

1938
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 5: History.

1939
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 4: I know everybody around here says the You know, the

1940
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 4: Celtics love to make it hard on themselves, and you

1941
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 4: know they're doing it again and they're blown opportunity with

1942
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 4: like nothing to do with the other team, like forcing

1943
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 4: eighteen turnovers, it's the Celtics even.

1944
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to tell you all these

1945
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: years with the Patriots, when you would say the other

1946
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: team's take, and I say, well, maybe the Patriots had

1947
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 2: something to do with it. But now now you have

1948
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: that take. Wait a minute, and I'm glad you've come around.

1949
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, and I agree with your take on

1950
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 4: the Patriots. And I always have no in games like

1951
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 4: you and Andy and.

1952
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: Playoffs the Patriots.

1953
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 4: You know you're making two different arguments.

1954
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 2: The league does as happens.

1955
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 4: The league does suck by and large and teams give

1956
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 4: games away. But you can't tell me they won six

1957
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 4: super Bowls because the other team sucked. No, that's stupid.

1958
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: That's what you guys used to say.

1959
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 4: Never once that I had Super Bowl the other team sucked, I.

1960
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: Would I would give credit to the other team and

1961
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: the Patriots having beaten that team. You would take away

1962
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: from the Patriots by diminishing the other I would take

1963
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: away again. Get it again.

1964
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 4: When when they get dominated by like the Cleveland Browns

1965
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 4: and lose because Cleveland gives the ball away seventeen times. Like,

1966
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 4: that's different, right, because my Patriots had nothing to do.

1967
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: But you don't beat the like the Steelers and the

1968
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 4: Colts and the Rams, all because the other team sucks. Sorry, yeah,

1969
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 4: the team doesn't suck.

1970
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: No, but they would say, teams come to me. That's

1971
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: what teams They just pooped themselves.

1972
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 4: But I just don't know what to do well that

1973
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 4: Celtics say. It's all about the Celtics sucking, not the

1974
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:31,480
Speaker 4: Golden State doing anything.

1975
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 2: That I agree with. And I also agree with the

1976
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: other way too.

1977
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1978
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 4: A great clip from Matt. Right there, Fred was on

1979
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 4: theory right there.

1980
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're talking.

1981
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 4: You were just telling them and those sometimes the Patriots

1982
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 4: made teams play like that.

1983
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: I just know what I said.

1984
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, they just

1985
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 4: po their pants. They didn't just poop their pants.

1986
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 6: The Patriots are great.

1987
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't understand you say I had good teams forced

1988
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: the other team into bad decisions. We were a good

1989
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: team that forced other teams into bad decisions.

1990
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 4: Decisions are bad play. Both the two different things. You

1991
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 4: said something different. Oh, I don't care you like it.

1992
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 2: When your job back when you were as good as

1993
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, or your good job at Patriots. Other teams

1994
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 2: sometimes do things that they don't normally do because they

1995
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: have more pressure.

1996
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 4: They might make decisions that they don't know.

1997
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Whatever it is, decision or execution, doesn't matter.

1998
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 4: Did make a decision to drop the ball on some No,

1999
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 4: but he might have that nervous that has nothing to

2000
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:31,839
Speaker 4: do with the opponent.

2001
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: You never know. You don't know what's in his head.

2002
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 4: That's pooping yourself. He didn't do that because they were

2003
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we're in Buffalo. I'm gonna tie the

2004
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 4: game in Buffalo.

2005
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: It's called a chike crash exactly.

2006
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 6: Tomatoes at the bus on the.

2007
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 2: Way right, they're gonna you know what I'm talking about.

2008
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: He's a ball knower, right, balls, no ball.

2009
01:28:58,040 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 6: You had a basketball conversation without me.

2010
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 2: That's pre I think that pre dated.

2011
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 4: When Alex was Man's waining basketball to somebody upset about that.

2012
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,959
Speaker 2: A five five past five hundred is the tpx Hutline

2013
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the email address. Let's

2014
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: get back to the phones. Uh, Brandy is in Providence.

2015
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 2: Hey Brandy, Hey.

2016
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 19: So I had called when you guys were talking about

2017
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 19: the Lions and how to build a team through the draft,

2018
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,799
Speaker 19: and I uh was thinking you know, watching the Lions

2019
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 19: and Commander's game, the Commander's kind of the antimthesis of

2020
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 19: building up through the draft for five years, not one

2021
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 19: first round pick still on the team. It kind of

2022
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 19: showed to me the importance of having the quarterback because

2023
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 19: Gosh clearly is not the guy. He wasn't the guy

2024
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 19: in la that's he's not the guy in Detroit. But

2025
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 19: Jaden Daniels might be the guy, and he kind of

2026
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 19: overshadows five years of draft utility. Just absolutely with.

2027
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 2: Okay, but you said, talk about first round picks, did

2028
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: they have guys on the other rounds?

2029
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 4: Lawrence contributed Lauren is one of the best players in

2030
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 4: the league. Also the third round pick.

2031
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 6: There are defensive linemen. We're all first round picks. Darron Payne. Uh,

2032
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 6: there's the other Alabama kid that plays on the defensive line.

2033
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 6: Those two guys are both first round picks.

2034
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's kind of hard to say they don't

2035
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 4: have any of their own first round picks when jad

2036
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 4: and Daniels is, you know, as valuable as any player

2037
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 4: in the league right now.

2038
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 3: I think they had a good mix of free agents,

2039
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,919
Speaker 3: but I mean, I think you've got to be interested

2040
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 3: to see next year how it builds. I mean, Jade

2041
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: Daniel's being a rookie, he'll probably take a step forward

2042
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 3: and you'll have your left tackle will probably develop. But

2043
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 3: you know, are you still getting the same return on

2044
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 3: Bobby Wager.

2045
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 4: They need to address the offensive line because I don't

2046
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 4: think it's very good and I don't think that kids

2047
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 4: will left tackle. They've gotten by I think because of

2048
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 4: jayde and Daniels Kingsbury.

2049
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, sounds like he's going to stay in Washington for

2050
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 6: another year. I think he's kind of waiting for the

2051
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 6: right opportunity to you know, second and final chance here.

2052
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 4: Plus they're still alive, so it's hard for teams to

2053
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 4: get at them.

2054
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: Patty's in Patty, Hey, good afternoon, everyone, Hey, good afternoon.

2055
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 12: So watching this Washington team this past week, I don't

2056
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 12: know if any of you guys got this, and that

2057
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 12: might be crazy, but I kind of I kind of

2058
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 12: get two thousand and one Patriots vibes with them, not

2059
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 12: in the style that they play, but just the fact that,

2060
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 12: like you guys went over last week, like all the

2061
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 12: roster turnover they had from last year to this. I

2062
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 12: think Evan you said fourteen new starters young quarterback. You know,

2063
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 12: when the playoffs started, they're like both of the pundits

2064
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 12: are like, yeah, they're a nice story, and now they're

2065
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 12: on the doorstep of the super Bowl. Just wanted to

2066
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 12: get your guys input on that, and that's really.

2067
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 20: All I got.

2068
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, Patty.

2069
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 4: I think we talked about we had their conversation last week.

2070
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2071
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a lot of comparisons between the

2072
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 4: two thousand and Patriots.

2073
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

2074
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,759
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised that Rabel, not because of Washington,

2075
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 4: but Rabel looks at that kind of a pattern and says,

2076
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 4: we need some of those kinds of guys, maybe not

2077
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 4: twenty like the two thousand and.

2078
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 3: One Patriots, but like a cultural kick in the.

2079
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 4: Pit, half a half dozen Bobby Wagner type guys that

2080
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 4: you can bring in and get some professionalism in a line.

2081
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 6: I just think, especially like positions on the offensive line,

2082
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 6: like if you can just get serviceable they don't even

2083
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 6: have serviceable. Like, if you can just get certain spots

2084
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 6: to serviceable, it makes your job so much easier.

2085
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: And he needs to bring back guy, bring in guys

2086
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 2: and say follow his example, do what he does. Right now,

2087
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't know who those people are. You know, David

2088
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 2: Andrews is one, but we don't know if he's going

2089
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 2: to be back. They need more of those guys.

2090
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2091
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: I think that's a great point. It's just saying we

2092
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 3: don't know, Like I don't know right now. Can you

2093
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 3: count on and when you were duggle right now as

2094
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 3: leaders who are gonna come back and really set the tone,

2095
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 3: try to bounce back. I don't know.

2096
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: If you do what he does, you'll be all right.

2097
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Christian in La, what's up Christian.

2098
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 21: Today?

2099
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Hey? So so uh?

2100
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 22: I wanted to play a quick game with you guys

2101
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 22: called one pick Away.

2102
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 2: One pick away over the.

2103
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 22: Last five seasons, if you guys could pick one player

2104
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 22: where the pick either before or the pick after you

2105
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 22: believe would have impacted our team positively.

2106
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 4: Do you have them?

2107
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2108
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 21: I just don't have them going over them now.

2109
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 4: I can't tell you off the top of I think

2110
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, Yeah right? Was that a pick ahead of

2111
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 4: the picture?

2112
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 3: How far away was McDuffie.

2113
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 4: I don't know McDuffie. They the original pick, they traded

2114
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 4: behind him.

2115
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Justin Jefferson was the pick before, because

2116
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 6: then they traded out of the pick and moved back,

2117
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 6: and they ended up taking Kyle Duggar, who went before mack.

2118
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,440
Speaker 3: Uh Parsons was a future.

2119
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 6: Elijah Vera Tucker. I want to say who they were.

2120
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 6: I don't know if that was the pick before or

2121
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 6: two picks after maybe, but they were high apparently on

2122
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,759
Speaker 6: Vera Tucker. Him and Parsons were like the two guys

2123
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 6: in that draft that if they had made it to

2124
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 6: fifteen maybe would have led to not picking a quarterback.

2125
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,880
Speaker 4: You know, did Brandon Coleman get taken one pick ahead

2126
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 4: of Kayden Wallace? He did? Is that one of those?

2127
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 4: But again hard to know if he I don't think

2128
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 4: Coleman's all that, but he's, as Evan said, he's been

2129
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 4: serviceable and that's where they need to get to.

2130
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Christian. I mean, could you see a world where

2131
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Parsons did fall, they take him, and then they take

2132
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy and we'd be in the playoffs this week,

2133
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: this year?

2134
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 6: J J McCarthy Not J.

2135
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 2: Why do I always Caldon No? No, the quarterback in Minnesota,

2136
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, No, the one that got hurt.

2137
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 4: Yes, So how are we getting him?

2138
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 5: What?

2139
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Because he would have come he would have been available

2140
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 2: if we had moved you know, if we had moved down,

2141
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 2: if we had traded down. Okay, Michael Parsons, he falls, if.

2142
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 6: He fell into twenty one.

2143
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 4: One this way, I was like, couldn't understand how we

2144
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 4: were getting trade back?

2145
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it.

2146
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 4: It was just yes, sign me up for Micah Parsons.

2147
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,680
Speaker 6: It was just a rumor. But the rumor was at

2148
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 6: the time in twenty one for understandable reasons. Bill had

2149
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 6: in infatuation with Micah Parsons, and if he had been

2150
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 6: there at fifteen, they would have taken him over mac Jones.

2151
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 6: But that would and then you take McCarthy later. Well,

2152
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 6: I mean it's four years later.

2153
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 4: I don't understand the correlation, but yes, I'd be all

2154
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 4: for that.

2155
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 6: I would have taken Bonix. No, I'm just kidding, you

2156
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 6: would not have taken.

2157
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 4: No, I mean J J. McCary. I like Drake May

2158
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 4: more than McCarthy, but who knows, I don't know. See,

2159
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 4: all right, Drake May.

2160
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 2: Let's go to Boston Cream. What's up guy? What's up

2161
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 2: Boston Cream? Hey?

2162
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 3: Fred?

2163
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 20: First off, just wanted to offer an apology for calling

2164
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 20: you Jelly.

2165
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 3: Next Jelly. If I don't think you're ready.

2166
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 20: Last week I said you were made of jelly.

2167
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh.

2168
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 20: If you guys could change any rule in the NFL,

2169
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 20: which kind of rule would you change? I think lately

2170
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 20: I've been kind of getting a little pissed off about

2171
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 20: the fact that you just can't hit quarterbacks in this

2172
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 20: day and age, and that they're kind of protected like

2173
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 20: soccer players, and that's kind of allowing for more offensive

2174
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 20: football than defensive football. What do you guys think?

2175
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think there's got to be

2176
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 2: review on every play. Every play needs to be reviewable. No,

2177
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 2: you don't get extra you know, challenges everything that can

2178
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: remain the same, but you have the ability to review

2179
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 2: everything so that if you think there's helmet to helmet

2180
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: and it turns out there's not, then it's not roughing.

2181
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 5: You know.

2182
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 6: I'm with you on that.

2183
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 4: I don't I don't mind it if you want to

2184
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 4: do it that way. I don't think that would solve

2185
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 4: much because I think you'd have the same arguments when

2186
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 4: you watch the replays like you do when they put

2187
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 4: the experts up and one guy watches a play and says,

2188
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 4: I didn't have a penalty on that. Another guy watches

2189
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 4: the play and says I did have a penalty on that.

2190
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that that happens, it does happen. But I

2191
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 2: think having review is better than not having it.

2192
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think that's fine.

2193
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 4: I don't the quarterback thing. I just think that they

2194
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 4: need to start They need to to lessen the protection

2195
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 4: when the quarterback becomes a runner. That's my only thing.

2196
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't think that they protect the quarterback too much,

2197
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 4: like in general, I mean a little bit, but the

2198
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 4: ones like if you're gonna let these guys be weapons

2199
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 4: like this, you have to let them get hit.

2200
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially with the my mahomes when it was

2201
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 3: like actually I'm gonna slide right now, and you know

2202
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 3: like that that can't win the fake slides. I meant.

2203
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 6: There was one in the I think it's the Washington

2204
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 6: game where they it was a read option and the

2205
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 6: defender smoked Jayden Daniels but he handed it off.

2206
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they.

2207
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 6: Called the unnecessary roughness or you know, personal foul, and

2208
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 6: I was like, well, how do you know he's not

2209
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 6: keeping the ball.

2210
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 4: I thought that was a good call though, I thought

2211
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: that wasn't unnecessary roughness. But I know what your point

2212
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 4: is if you're carrying out the fake and you just

2213
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 4: get tackled, right, I don't think they would have called it.

2214
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 4: That was it. I think you got called for the

2215
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 4: hit itself.

2216
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 6: Yeah. But like my point is is just like if

2217
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,879
Speaker 6: they're gonna be that, they're gonna run these types of plays,

2218
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 6: then like the quarterback has to be fair game to

2219
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 6: an extent because that's how these defenses are designed to

2220
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 6: stop it. But like you have the quarterback, you have

2221
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 6: the running back, and that's how you're able to kind

2222
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 6: of play team defense against those types of plays.

2223
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 2: You know, I know, I know it seems a little simplistic,

2224
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 2: but if if there was some kind of rule where

2225
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: if you go in for the tackle and your arms

2226
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 2: are down by your side, you're going in for a

2227
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: hit and not a tackle, So you could, in other words,

2228
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 2: you can never be called for a penalty if your

2229
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: arms are out trying to make a tackle, like even

2230
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 2: if you make.

2231
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 4: Ironically enough, they outlawed that even hip drop. What do

2232
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 4: you mean when you put your arms around a guy

2233
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: and you drop your weight.

2234
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: But that's different. But if you're if you're going to

2235
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,799
Speaker 2: wrap up guy and you're tempting to make a tackle

2236
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: with your you know, with your arms in your hands,

2237
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 2: you're excluded from ever being called helmet to helmet. But

2238
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 2: if your arms are down by your side, you're opening

2239
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 2: your up yourself up to a helmet to helmet.

2240
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 4: I don't hate it.

2241
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit like in USA hockey. They're

2242
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 3: trying to do it where when you deliver a hit,

2243
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 3: your stick has to be on the ice. So if

2244
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 3: you're delivering a hit where your stick is up, they're

2245
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 3: gonna call you for a rough potentially, Whereas if your

2246
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 3: stick's on the ice you're playing the puck. You know,

2247
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 3: you're just trying to separate the puck carrier from the puck.

2248
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 3: It's a good hit. Some of the similar.

2249
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 4: Awareness, to me, they need and it's not about spot

2250
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 4: foul or any of that. I think that's right, but

2251
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 4: I just think there are too many I know it's

2252
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: a highly subjective call, but there are too many different opinions, like, yeah,

2253
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 4: there's so much hand fighting that goes on that gets called,

2254
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 4: and the consistent hit before the ball gets there doesn't

2255
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: get called, right, And I think one completely eliminates a

2256
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 4: chance of making a catch and the other doesn't. But

2257
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 4: the one that doesn't eliminate the catch gets called that

2258
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 4: that turnavious White call on someday that was a bad call.

2259
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 4: Like there's just two guys that are like the jockeying

2260
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 4: with each other and pushing each other. You can make

2261
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: an argument that Keon Coleman should have gotten called for

2262
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 4: offensive interference. I don't think it was that either.

2263
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know, I don't remember which game

2264
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 2: it was, was one of the night games, but the

2265
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 2: offensive line, the ends were, you know, the linemen were

2266
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: consistently lining off the line and they weren't calling it.

2267
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: Probably probably Kansas City called.

2268
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 4: You know, he got called twice I think in the game,

2269
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 4: did he.

2270
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 2: Taylor?

2271
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I wonder too. And you're seeing it

2272
01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 6: more and more with all the r p O and

2273
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 6: all that influence, like the illegal men downfield penalties are

2274
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 6: starting to become Really I was going.

2275
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 2: To say that because like I never insarily who cares

2276
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 2: just run down field? But somebody explained to me like

2277
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 2: kind of the reasoning, Yeah, for that.

2278
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 6: It's really critical. And then in the college game, the

2279
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 6: rule is a lot more lenient, and so now you

2280
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 6: have these linemen on RPOs that are like already five

2281
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 6: six yards down the field and it's it's ridiculous. It

2282
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 6: makes it really hard to.

2283
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 4: Stop the one it took away a big game and

2284
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 4: it was legit call like the guy was like eight

2285
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 4: yards down field blocking before the ball was even thrown.

2286
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 4: I forget which game it was. I think that's a

2287
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 4: good rule.

2288
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 2: It's a really good Well that's illegal contact right, well, no,

2289
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 2: that's defensive side. Yeah, I get, but I understand the

2290
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 2: reason for the rule, but it is sometimes it's like

2291
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 2: I can't help it. You know, like you said, it's

2292
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 2: an RPO and there's so much time.

2293
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 5: I laugh.

2294
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh, you've got a quarterback that's running around.

2295
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 21: You know.

2296
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 4: They definitely, I I mean it feels to me anyway.

2297
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 4: I shouldn't say definitely, but it feels to me this

2298
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 4: year that they were really strict with that, and I

2299
01:41:53,200 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 4: think they called a lot of really tiki tak ones

2300
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 4: where like the backside tackle might be like a yard

2301
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 4: and a half dound field old forty yards away from

2302
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 4: the ball, and they're calling the legal man downfield like

2303
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 4: those are the ones. I but like there was a

2304
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 4: screen I want maybe it was the Eagles game. The

2305
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 4: guy was downfield like, you know, eight or ten yards

2306
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 4: downfield lining up a block as the as the kid

2307
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 4: is catching the screen, Like, how do you defend that

2308
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 4: You're already getting blocked.

2309
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 2: Now, right? But I think everything should be reviewable.

2310
01:42:26,280 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 6: I'm with you on that.

2311
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 3: I just think if you can eliminate the obvious world.

2312
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 3: But I hear what parlimin play. I mean, I hear

2313
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 3: what Paul's saying about you.

2314
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 2: You're putting it into the hands of the people you

2315
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 2: think are incompetent.

2316
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I don't trust their their opinions when they

2317
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 4: look back at it.

2318
01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: You just don't like anybody.

2319
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 6: I just really like that. In some of the Spring

2320
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 6: leagues have done this with the review and they're they're

2321
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 6: sort of doing it now, but like, just like the

2322
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 6: Sky Judge, it's just like, yeah, if you can make

2323
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 6: a decision within ten seconds, then you can change a call.

2324
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 6: But we're not here to break it down.

2325
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 2: To that a little bit more.

2326
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's been a good, good move. Yeah.

2327
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:04,560
Speaker 4: The other thing that I think is very underrated. The

2328
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:09,680
Speaker 4: spotting of the ball is atrocious, and for most of

2329
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 4: the game, no one ever really cares, right, But there's

2330
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 4: been so many times where a guy had a first

2331
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 4: down and they mark him like a half yard short,

2332
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden you look up two

2333
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 4: plays later they're punting because they didn't get that first down.

2334
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 4: I don't know, there's got to be a better way

2335
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 4: to mark the ball than chips.

2336
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, the problem with the lasers is is too many

2337
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 2: bodies in the.

2338
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 4: Way, right, Yeah, I don't think those those are easy solutions,

2339
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 4: but you got.

2340
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 6: To be able to put a chip in the ball.

2341
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,799
Speaker 4: There in the ball, but where the ball is doesn't

2342
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 4: necessarily always mean that's where it should be spotted.

2343
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 2: It's where he's down.

2344
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 6: Right, right, Well, that's yeah, I mean, I look, I'm

2345
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 6: not an elbows. Yeah, there's got to be a way

2346
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 6: that they can figure out.

2347
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 4: A way. I was telling to this was there was

2348
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 4: one in the Baltimore game Baltimore Buffalo. It was in

2349
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 4: the first half, and the guy caught a pass and

2350
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 4: he was a good half a yard short of the

2351
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 4: first down, right, and the guys running in from the

2352
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 4: sideline marking the ball a half a yard short of

2353
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 4: the first down. But he's given this sign to the

2354
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 4: sticks like he's got the first down. I'm like, maybe

2355
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 4: the sticks on the side that we could see weren't

2356
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 4: the official ones, and maybe on the other side it was.

2357
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 4: But we've been at a million NFL games. They're not

2358
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 4: really off. They're usually in the same spots.

2359
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 5: I like it.

2360
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: I like it when you see the ref running in

2361
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: and he's like.

2362
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 6: No, ten million dollar team industry and we're just like,

2363
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:33,879
Speaker 6: we have chain.

2364
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 4: Games maybe and maybe we can have a base sis

2365
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 4: and I vevall tazed, like so the chain gang, to

2366
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 4: me is where you can put the lasers. Like, why

2367
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 4: do we have two sticks that are connected by a chain.

2368
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 4: Why not just have it be a laser sticks.

2369
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Imagine that two sticks connected by a chain.

2370
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 4: Right that that would seem to be this should be

2371
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,759
Speaker 4: should be technology that you don't need anything that's connecting

2372
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,760
Speaker 4: those two things. Like you have a you know, a

2373
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 4: laser focused ten yards exactly ten yards.

2374
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 2: You know, three sixty year old guys that have been

2375
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 2: there forever out of a job.

2376
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,480
Speaker 4: That's a great point.

2377
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 6: Once a week, and.

2378
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 2: Those guys would die if.

2379
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 4: They like a high school game right now.

2380
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 3: No, they asked one time at a game, I felt

2381
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:16,799
Speaker 3: too much pressure. I didn't I didn't volunteer.

2382
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: Do we have someone coming? I know? But you know, oh,

2383
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 2: I would screw that up. It could be hard, dangerous.

2384
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've done it, Like I used to do

2385
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 4: them a lot for games when my father was running,

2386
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 4: Like Pop warned football, you know, I need you and

2387
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 4: your friend, well I need you know, like I get

2388
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 4: stuck killed them. But you just never want to do

2389
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:36,799
Speaker 4: it when your kids playing.

2390
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's all.

2391
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I used to say no when they

2392
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 4: asked me, like, no, I want to watch my son play.

2393
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 4: And you don't want to be on the sidelines of

2394
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 4: those games. Like here, all kinds of stuff.

2395
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 3: Somebody talking some crap, Paul, call time out, Call time out.

2396
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing out there.

2397
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 4: I'm with my buddy. I'm like, I don't know what

2398
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 4: he's doing. I mean, he was just running the ball here.

2399
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 2: What do we do kids?

2400
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:00,720
Speaker 5: Bike?

2401
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 6: Kid?

2402
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 2: So, would you have scholarships in your school.

2403
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 4: For my clock management school?

2404
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:09,879
Speaker 2: Clock Management?

2405
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 4: I mean, if there were kids in the inner city

2406
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 4: that maybe don't have the opportunities, Fred, I would be

2407
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 4: definitely willing to.

2408
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 3: I'm feeling this would be an We'll have an ad

2409
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 3: for Fred's gambling book, and then we'll have an ad

2410
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 3: for for your school. Hello, are you wondering how to

2411
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 3: manage at a football game, will come to me Paul Parillo,

2412
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 3: the School of clock Management.

2413
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 4: Why does he have to make it sound like a

2414
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 4: half a moro right.

2415
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 3: On a TV? You know, let's be commercial.

2416
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 4: He sounds like more.

2417
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:37,879
Speaker 6: Man, I heard a little.

2418
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 4: I heard a little hint.

2419
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 2: Paul's commercial would be more. He'd give like two examples

2420
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 2: of like just idiot calls. You don't want to be

2421
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 2: this person. That's why you want to come to the

2422
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:51,719
Speaker 2: school clock man.

2423
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: Like me get like an Andy Reid testimonial. I had

2424
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,799
Speaker 4: no idea what I was doing until I went to school.

2425
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 2: We could do some good commercials that would be good.

2426
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be wearing that hoodie. I can tell you

2427
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 2: that much. William and philam third, try what's up?

2428
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 21: What's up? Hey?

2429
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 2: What's going on here?

2430
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 21: I had on mute by mistake. I'm sorry, Okay, that's

2431
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 21: why I got That's why we got to disconnected at.

2432
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 2: That point, so you'll hang up and listen it through.

2433
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 21: But I kept trying it so I got through.

2434
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: All right, what do you got? How everybody doing good?

2435
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 21: Good?

2436
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: Yep, everything's good?

2437
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 21: All right, that's what's up? I had three questions for Evan.

2438
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 21: So one is what do you think of the war

2439
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 21: receiver from Ohio State? His name was Smith.

2440
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,160
Speaker 3: I think Jerry Smith. I like Jerry Smith.

2441
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 6: He's a true freshman.

2442
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 5: I don't know Jerry, I don't know.

2443
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,719
Speaker 4: He might be the best player in the country.

2444
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 6: He's a true freshman. He's seventeen. Right, Why don't you

2445
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 6: call back in twenty twenty seven and we'll talk about it.

2446
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 21: You got, you got? Yeah? The other two pressures, what

2447
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 21: is your issue with with Will Johnson? And three? Can

2448
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 21: you give me an idea of what free agency would

2449
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 21: look like for their facers, Like who you think they

2450
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 21: might get, you know, to come in and whatnot? And

2451
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 21: I'll leave it at day.

2452
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 6: Right, Thanks Willem Will Johnson. At three, I mean, look,

2453
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 6: I I sort of subscribed to talent at any he

2454
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 6: plays corner. I just I think the one thing they

2455
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 6: have right now is a good corner. Now, two good

2456
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 6: corners sounds fun, but it just I think you can

2457
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 6: spread your resources out a little bit better than that.

2458
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 3: And take a corner free agency classes.

2459
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, I don't know, It's just that's just more

2460
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 6: of a positional thing, if you really if they grade

2461
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,560
Speaker 6: him out and he's the best player by a landslide

2462
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 6: that's on the board at four. I'm not saying don't

2463
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 6: pick him. I just I don't know. I just that's

2464
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 6: just a position conversation. And and free agency. I think

2465
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,439
Speaker 6: the biggest thing with free agency is we got to

2466
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:57,759
Speaker 6: see who's available in free agency. Like I'm not ready.

2467
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people are Ron me stan

2468
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 6: Lee and t Higgins and all these other names that

2469
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 6: could be out there. Josh Sweat, Like, let's see, like

2470
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 6: a lot of time we get to free agency and

2471
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 6: half these dudes have been tagged or whatever, and I'm

2472
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 6: just not I'm not one hundred percent sold it. Everybody's

2473
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 6: going to hit the market, So let's see what happens

2474
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 6: in March.

2475
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 3: I like Trey Greenlaw. I like Trey green Law. He

2476
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,799
Speaker 3: gets it. I think that Alerc Jackson two from the Rams,

2477
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 3: but franchise maybe, I mean that's like.

2478
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of these guys, Clerk Jackson, like those

2479
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 6: are the types of guys that I would look for

2480
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 6: them to add in this. You know, keep talking about

2481
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 6: the Commanders and the O one Patriots and things like that,

2482
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 6: Like one like those are one of those guys, you know,

2483
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 6: and Alerc Jackson, you know, just Milton Williams, like guys

2484
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 6: that play the defensive line that are just really good

2485
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 6: defensive linemen but aren't necessarily stars. Like I think they

2486
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 6: could do a lot with one hundred and thirty million

2487
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 6: dollars to get a lot of those guys.

2488
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 4: Read something about green Law that I think someone on

2489
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 4: Twitter today suggested that he probably will sign a one

2490
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 4: year deal to stay in San Francisco. Yeaheah, because get

2491
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 4: healthy and get back on hell and then have a

2492
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 4: chance to earn something.

2493
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, exact spond and Philly is an awesome player, Like

2494
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 6: is he going to get tagged like some sort of

2495
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 6: transition franchise whatever. I don't know, but he's a stud.

2496
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 3: But I got a question though, I mean special teams

2497
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 3: guy signs a one year deal, low money with them,

2498
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 3: He's playing in front of the best defensive line in

2499
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 3: the league. Does that give you any cause for concern

2500
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 3: with him? Like, out of nowhere comes in on this one.

2501
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 3: I'm doing my studies.

2502
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 4: That's good.

2503
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 6: I don't know, because, like I really liked him coming

2504
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 6: out and he's one of those guys that can play

2505
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 6: on and off the line of scrimmage and he had

2506
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 6: that versatility and is it that definitely could be a factor.

2507
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 6: But like Vic Fangio is such a good coach, I

2508
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 6: just wonder if maybe somebody's finally figured him out, you know, like.

2509
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 4: A different position, but kind of like Vrabel. Yeah, like

2510
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 4: when he was in Pittsburgh, he was like a situational guy,

2511
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,839
Speaker 4: special teamer. Yeah, I mean plays the edge and Bond's

2512
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 4: more of a one and fifty tackles some crazy like.

2513
01:50:53,600 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 6: They just like keep on. I just remember early on

2514
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 6: and it was New Orleans, right, I think that drafted him,

2515
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,080
Speaker 6: and I just remember early on in his career he

2516
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 6: couldn't figure him out, like is he an off the

2517
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 6: line guy? Is he an edge rusher? And they kept

2518
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 6: on bouncing him back and forth. And I just wonder

2519
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 6: if maybe Fangio is finally like the guy that was

2520
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:10,720
Speaker 6: able to figure him.

2521
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 4: But I would have pause with that front. Yeah right,

2522
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 4: I mean you're right about that. It's kind of like

2523
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 4: watching kind of like the DALYs Thomas.

2524
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 6: Just watching them covers.

2525
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2526
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,440
Speaker 3: No, he can run like a win. I mean he's fascinating.

2527
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, as you go through these things,

2528
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 3: that's you know, it's an anomaly where he signed a

2529
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 3: one year deal for like nothing with.

2530
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 4: He had one series in the game where he just

2531
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 4: took the game, like three plays in a row. He

2532
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 4: was like really really involved in all three plays and

2533
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 4: he does. He has like a lot of athleticism and

2534
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 4: in the instincts. He had a great year like that

2535
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 4: for a guy that didn't play that much. I don't know. Defense, Yeah,

2536
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 4: isn't all.

2537
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 2: Proh Pascal says about things he changed. I hate the

2538
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 2: automatic first down penalty, third and thirty, defensive holding five

2539
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: yard penalty. Automatic first down kills me every time I

2540
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: agree with that. Me too with that one.

2541
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:04,440
Speaker 4: I think that if if it's if, I don't disagree

2542
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 4: with automatic first downs, but I do think those situations

2543
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 4: it shouldn't be an automatic, like it should have to

2544
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 4: be a personal follow to be an automatic.

2545
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the problem is it. The problem with that

2546
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 2: and the reason why they do automatic first down in

2547
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 2: my opinion is if it's third and thirty, I'm coaching

2548
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 2: any doubt, just foul them, just you know, make them

2549
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 2: do the play over. And it's bad for the game.

2550
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 4: It doesn't help you.

2551
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 2: It does, it gives them another down, but it's still

2552
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 2: third down. So at least, I'm not giving up a

2553
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 2: big play, you know what I mean.

2554
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 4: No, but it's like a five yard penalty defense. But

2555
01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 4: those those past interference, it's past in apperence, right, that's

2556
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 4: taking away a big play.

2557
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 2: Defensive holding in the backfield could also take away a

2558
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 2: big play. So I'm telling my guys. I'm telling my guys,

2559
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: don't get bet hold if you have to. I don't

2560
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 2: care if it, but if it's a first down, then

2561
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 2: I can't coach that way, you know what I'm saying.

2562
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 4: So they may just don't think that anybody is telling

2563
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 4: you on third and thirties.

2564
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 2: They would. They would if it was only if it

2565
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 2: was only a five or ten yard rather than give

2566
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:07,639
Speaker 2: up a big play.

2567
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 4: I understand frustrated, that's why they do it. I think

2568
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 4: that only personal follow should be automatic first downs. Yeah,

2569
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 4: not five years.

2570
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, they would coach differently, and it wouldn't

2571
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 2: be good for the game. You'd hate it. You'd have

2572
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 2: these teams doing two and three penalties and I downspan.

2573
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 4: I don't think you would coach differently. I don't think

2574
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 4: you would ever want to commit penalties on third round.

2575
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: You don't want to give a big plays either when

2576
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 2: in doubt.

2577
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, those plays aren't big plays. Downfield pass interference.

2578
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: I agree, That's why I like the big plays. If

2579
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,400
Speaker 2: you like you're about to get beat, you hold the guy,

2580
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 2: you tug its jersey. You know.

2581
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 4: I just don't think that would be a tactic. I

2582
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 4: don't think you would say just hold them. If you say,

2583
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 4: cover them.

2584
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 2: In a crucial in a crucial time in the game,

2585
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 2: I think coaches would say that.

2586
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 4: I think they don't think they'd be any more apt

2587
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 4: to say that if it's a first down.

2588
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: Or not, well, we'll have to change the rule and

2589
01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 2: we'll find out.

2590
01:53:58,120 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, they never changed the rules.

2591
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 2: Let's see Ben and Brooklyn says on an interception, roughing

2592
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 2: the passer should still be a fifteen yard penalty, but

2593
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: the possession should change.

2594
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 4: I disagree. Yeah, a lot of roughing the passers cause interceptions.

2595
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, now.

2596
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 4: You want to do your reviewable thing. Roughing the passer

2597
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 4: should be reviewable.

2598
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 6: Okay, I think it's going to be.

2599
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 4: I know they've been talking about it. You know, you

2600
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 4: and Evan want everything reviewable. That's one that needs to

2601
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 4: be reviewed.

2602
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:33,960
Speaker 3: The rule for the defense.

2603
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 6: Wow, that seems like that's happening. Yeah, there's some things

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01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 6: that have been floated out there for this year's like

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01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 6: league meetings and stuff that probably aren't going to get through.

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01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 6: But that one sounds like.

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01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 4: This isn't a good year for it because they missed

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01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 4: so many blatant face mask penalties. I feel like there

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 4: was at least there's at least like a half dozen missed.

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01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 4: That's also I think they should be much more lenient

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01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 4: with face masks, like if you've got to crab it

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01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 4: and rip it. Yeah, those are the the ones that

2613
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 4: they missed this year, like borrow, had it happened, darnold,

2614
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 4: had it happen. There was some blatant like turn the

2615
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 4: whole head, and they didn't call it. Those aren't the

2616
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 4: ones I'm talking about, Like when you like grays a

2617
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 4: face mask, that's not always face mask to me, and

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01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 4: I think they get called a lot.

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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 2: David and Wisconsin will get to the end of the show,

2620
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 2: so it's always time for some Jaws talk. He says

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01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 2: they went down a rabbit hole of the deleted scenes

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01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: from Jaws. I remember as a kid in the eighties

2623
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 2: watching it on TV, and there was a scene of

2624
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 2: Quint going to a music store to buy something that

2625
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 2: would choke the fish. I couldn't hear what Quint purchased

2626
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 2: until I found the clip online and it was a

2627
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 2: piano line number twelve. It chokes the fish, he tells

2628
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 2: the cashier.

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01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 4: Piano Wireeah, don't be telling me my business again.

2630
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 6: Why it doesn't hold up?

2631
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 2: I then saw there were photos of the beast with

2632
01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:54,839
Speaker 2: his jaws open to chomp down Alice Kinner and his raft.

2633
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:57,800
Speaker 2: The scene was shot with the shark visible, but any

2634
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 2: signs of the shark from the scene were removed from

2635
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:03,839
Speaker 2: the final cut. Maybe you, gentlemen, knew that existed already.

2636
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 6: I did, actually, I texted that I see the shark

2637
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 6: in the movie. I didn't know that.

2638
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 3: Well, they did show it, Evan, it was too violent

2639
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 3: for people like you didn't like it.

2640
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 5: You know, it was getting chopped and.

2641
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 6: Has It looked like.

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01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 3: There's a good picture though, online of when they were

2643
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 3: shooting it where Alice Kittner's like on the raft and

2644
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 3: you see the shark like coming out and like cut

2645
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 3: them in half. But I guess kids were getting scared

2646
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 3: or something.

2647
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 6: No, I think I just I'm gonna keep watch it again.

2648
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 4: By to this piano wire, you don't be telling me

2649
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 4: my business again.

2650
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 3: I don't remember the other scene though, Do you remember

2651
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 3: that one? I don't remember him going into a record

2652
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,200
Speaker 3: store of looking at it was a deleted scene, he said,

2653
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, but I should be aware of these things, Paul,

2654
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:40,160
Speaker 3: I've gone down.

2655
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 4: I have not watched the deleted scenes on a Facebook.

2656
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 4: What kind of I guess. I guess I'm not even

2657
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 4: though I just keep it. What is up with that

2658
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 4: camera angle?

2659
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 2: What would they do? Nobody knows what you're talking about?

2660
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 2: So on my show, I know, but nobody knows what

2661
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 2: you're talking about.

2662
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 4: Tough angle.

2663
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna be it for this edition of

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01:56:58,800 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 2: Three Minutes Left.

2665
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 4: I got things, we got more jaws talk.

2666
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 2: All right. We'll be back Thursday, so we're.

2667
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 4: Gonna have to hurry. Picks.

2668
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,200
Speaker 2: I know you got a lot of picks, right two.

2669
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 4: So first time since you've been doing your folks, this

2670
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 4: is your lock of the week.

2671
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, push push Wow, push of the week.

2672
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, I did not No, you did not know Mike.

2673
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 4: Mike's gonna win the postseason contest.

2674
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 6: I picked.

2675
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, postseason. I start to get very.

2676
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 4: Emotional, exactly, this is unreal. Can't just lose games.

2677
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:38,880
Speaker 2: It's either the refs or my emotions.

2678
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 4: The refs I can deal with. That's that's, that's valid.

2679
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 2: All right. We will see you on Thursday. Catch twenty

2680
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 2: two is tomorrow, Yes, tomorrow at noon, Okay, tomorrow at noon.

2681
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 2: We will see you on Thursday.

2682
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:56,160
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