WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: The Man Behind the Microphone 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:01.480 Kabooms. 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.400 If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.200 a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.480 of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.520 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.480 rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:18.400 Wow. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.320 The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:30.640 The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:35.159 In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with Ben Mahler 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:38.519 and Danny g Radio who is on assignment today not 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.520 with us on today's pod as we kick off the weekend, 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.720 because hey, four hours a night on the overnight clearly 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:47.600 not enough. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.199 In this podcast available wherever you have found the podcast 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.920 in pretty much everywhere in the iHeart podcast network. You 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.920 knew all that stuff. And we'll get the Komodo dragon 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.480 out of the room as we begin the pod. Why 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.280 are you doing the podcast but you didn't do the 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.280 overnight show yet? So I was away from my post 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.080 and some of you went batshit crazy because I was 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:11.920 away from my post for a couple of nights here 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:17.280 doing the family thing at a family assignment. But it's 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.200 only a couple of nights. And I still am doing 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.840 the podcast. The podcast is easy to do because it's 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.479 not in the middle of the night. I'm not tied 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:27.600 down somewhere where people are sleeping and all that. I 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.280 can do the podcast when a more proper time, a 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:34.640 more proper time to enjoy audio content and to do 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.160 audio content, which is just terrific. So we're doing the podcast. 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.040 I'll have the pod all weekend. Obviously. Today is it's 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.880 the twelfth day of April, and I am celebrating a 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:52.640 teeny bit National Grilled Cheese Sandwich Day, which is always 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.600 a big day in the house. There are a few 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:02.160 things better than a well made Chris be cheese melted 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:07.560 on top of the bread, just outstanding, outstanding a National 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.880 grilled Cheese Day, and occasionally you can mix it up. Now, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.560 at what point does it not become a grilled cheese? 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.880 Is that a when you put like a little pastrami 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.400 in there, and then it's no longer a grilled cheese. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.400 But it's mostly a grilled cheese. It's just a little pastrami. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.520 You can put any kind of meat you want it. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.760 But I'm a big grilled cheese guy, big grilled cheese guy. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.200 Love it's also big wind day today, so that's always 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:33.359 a exciting day. On the twelfth of April. Who comes 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:37.079 up with this crap? Well, on today's podcast, we will 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:43.359 have a Malor film review. That's right, a Malar film review, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.520 just the content you've been looking forward to. Also have 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.720 the phrase of the week as well, and whatever else 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:54.200 pops up on the pod. But we begin with this. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.080 So I got tipped off a couple of weeks back. 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.840 Some of my radio minions were like, Hey, did you 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.840 hear there's this documentary about a radio guy? And I 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.720 was like, oh, really, I didn't think they made documentaries 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.280 about radio guys anymore. It's all about those cool podcasters, right, 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.240 everyone wants to be a podcaster. But sure enough I 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.720 heard a little more about it, and then I had 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.440 to track it down. Now the documentary, let's see if 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.280 you can figure out who it's about. This is. This 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.320 is not a dead giveaway at all, right, not a 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:26.399 dead giveaway at all. The documentary is called Henry. Who 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.280 could that possibly be about? Who could that possibly be about? 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.880 A documentary named Henry ding Ding ding ding nang. Yeah, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.480 Well it turns out that is a dead giveaway. So 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.920 this thing just came out at least I just became 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.240 aware of it. And it is a documentary that tracks 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:48.440 the career of a Hall of famer in radio, Phil Henry, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.440 as it's described in the bio for the film, a 0:03:53.760 --> 0:04:00.040 radio genius whose satirical brilliance reshaped comedy. And then and 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.520 they brought in a bunch of these real heavyweights in Hollywood, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:08.480 like Judd Apatow and people all on that line. There's 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.920 some one of the people from the Simpsons who were 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.600 fans of Phil Henry liked Phil Henry, and then they 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.400 had Phil was in there as well, and then it 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.760 went behind the microphone. The Impact of the Phil Henry 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.839 Show is a documentary ran for like a hour and 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.480 a half, a little over an hour and a half. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:29.960 So I found out about it and I was like, well, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.560 I want to get it, and how do you get it? 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.080 And then you're like, well, it wasn't streaming that many places. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.159 It was on Amazon Prime for like five bucks, and 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.000 since I'm in radio, I'm like, I don't know if 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.000 I want to do that. So then I started snooping around, 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:43.720 like how can I watch it without having to pay 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:48.680 the five bucks? And I found this weird app on 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.679 my dive into the dark web, and I came across 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.400 this thing called let me let me find it on 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.440 my phone here and just beare with me. It's called Hooplah. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.240 Never heard of that. It is a app through your 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:08.039 local library and you can watch documentaries, TV shows, audio 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.120 books for free. But you gonna have a library card. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:11.320 Now. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.880 I don't have a library card, so I had to 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.080 pivot and I had to find one. I could have 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:18.680 signed up and that would have been easy to do 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.080 online and all that, but I was like, I don't why. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:25.240 I'm not going to ease my wife, though she of 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.880 course loves loves the books, all about the books and 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.719 all that, and so she was able to track down 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.440 the library card, which then allowed me to get on 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.159 said app. Well, originally it was the website. It was 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.600 on the website watching it. I tried to watch it. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.200 I had to save it, but then you had to 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:44.280 come back after midnight because only a certain number of 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:45.720 people could get it, and there was a lot of 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.520 hoops he had to jump through. But I was like, hey, 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.360 it's free, I'll save five bucks. Why not That'll buy 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.600 like one chicken nugget or something like that. When I'm 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.200 out to eat. So I go on the website, I 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.040 type in the past code, library card, wife's information and 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.400 get to the thing is all right, you've saved the 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.480 Hendri documentary. I'm like, all right, hallelujah, I have saved 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.479 the Hendri documentary. I'm ready to go. So then I 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.200 clicked to watch it and it was like, well, no, 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.239 you have to You can't watch it on this device. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.120 It's only available you have to download our app. And 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:17.320 so I'm like, oh, well, this is a pain in 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.960 the ass, but I wanted to watch it. I was 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:24.599 motivated because I appreciate radio people, because this is my 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.880 professional career, what I've done my entire adult life. And 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:33.520 so I downloaded the stupid app and then I was like, oh, 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.800 I will just connect it from the app to the 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.360 big TV. Right, you do that phone the TV thing, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.320 and you can send the stream and you can watch 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.320 it on your television and it's just like you're watching 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.279 it the regular way, and that's how you do it. 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.320 And so then I kept clicking on the anything wouldn't work, 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.560 and so I was like, oh, I'm fuxing around with it. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.239 I'm like, what the hell? And I just would not work. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.800 I could not get the documentary. I was like, well, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.719 how stupid are the people behind this app? Wouldn't you 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.599 think the whole point of it is for people to 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.680 enjoy the content they're getting from their tax dollars that 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.440 they're going to subsidize the library, and they would like 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.080 to watch on the television. But it wouldn't work. Now, 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.920 maybe it was a user error. It's possible right that 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.000 something I did did not resonate with the phone and 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:22.120 the TV. But either way, it did not work, and 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.040 so I ended up having to watch this thing on 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.640 my phone. But I enjoyed it. In fact, I liked 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.120 it so much I actually watched it a couple of times. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.360 And so now it is the Malor film review for 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.840 Henry the Documentary. I should start out first of all 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.280 with the fact that you might not know who Phil 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.320 Henry is, Like, I know who Phil Henry is because 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.360 I've worked in RAID. I should have met Phil Henry 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.920 a couple of times. More on that later in this podcast, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.720 so I know the act. He was a big star 0:07:55.120 --> 0:08:01.840 in radio in the late nineties early two thousand. In fact, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.240 right around the time that I came to Fox Sports Radio, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.440 FOXS Radio lodged Phil Henry was nationally syndicated at the 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.080 Premiere Networks, which is where I work at. Fox Sports 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.240 Radio is a part of the Premiere Radio Networks. It 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.239 was of the Premier radio networks. Now it's just Premiere 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.920 Networks that got rid of the radio. And Phil was 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:24.480 doing a syndicated show at night, and his whole shtick 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:30.520 is he is the host, he is the guest, and 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.840 he just has this amazing ability of sashing his way 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.120 through a steeplechase on a nightly basis, and he's able 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:46.720 to hornswaggle the listeners and it it's great if you 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.160 get it, it's great. If you don't get it, it's ridiculous. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.120 And there was a point I didn't really get to 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.520 Phil Hendry show. He started out. When I first heard him, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:59.760 he was on KFI in Los Angeles, big news talk station, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.080 and I was like, oh, this is kind of stupid. 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.720 And then the more I listened, and I was doing 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.520 radio at the time, and I realized what he was 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:10.160 doing and how he was using the people that call 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.120 the show as putty, I thought, well, that's pretty good. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.640 So that was my first running with Phil Henry, is 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.000 that I knew of him at KFI in LA and 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.280 then I worked at Premiere and he had a syndicated 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.720 show Premiere, so our paths crossed a couple of times. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.960 But he was doing satire. He was doing satire of 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.840 talk radio, which I have been accused of doing when 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.920 I talked to Marcel and Brooklyn or Cowboy and windsor 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:41.760 or some of the other characters that call the show. 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.800 The only difference between me and Phil Henry is I 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:49.920 am not doing impersonations. They're real. They are real, they 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:54.000 call in, they find me. I am not the one 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.160 that is doing the voice right. I might bust the balls, 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.320 I do that a lot. I like to bust balls, 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.160 right and all that, but I'm not the one that 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.200 is on the other side of the phone. Phil was 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:05.920 the person on the other side of the phone as 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.240 the guest, and he created all these fugazi characters. But 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.120 his story. If you watch the documentary, I don't want 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.840 to give the whole thing away, but I do recommend it. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.120 Help another radio guy out. Now. Phil's going to get 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.960 some credit. Even though I'm a tightwad. And I went 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.240 through the library to watch the documentary. You can even 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.960 just cut out the middle man. Watch it on Amazon. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.880 I'm sure there'll be some other ways the way these 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.120 things work down the line. If you're hell bent on 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.080 getting the documentary for cheaper, probably get a cheaper down 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.480 the line and all that. But I already watched it. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.680 I don't think you can get cheaper than free. And 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.280 so it was fascinating as someone that has worked in 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.640 the business a long time. Phil started out as a DJ, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:50.840 a regular disc jockey on music radio for seventeen years. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.800 This guy was your generic radio DDRE and just did 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.280 the normal radio crap. And there was video of him 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:02.560 as a DJ at KLAX here in Los Angeles ninety 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.360 seven point one, which was a music station for a 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.400 long time, became a talk station and now it's a 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.800 news talk station. But Phil was there when it was 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.320 a music station as a just a generic, boring ass DJ. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.520 And he said in the documentary that he had a 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.760 midlife crisis he wanted to do talk radio. One of 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.080 the inspirations was Rush Limbaugh of all people, that that 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.920 was about the time when he decided early nineties. Henry 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.280 in the documentary talks about how he decided, Hey, I 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.880 want to go that direction because I'm tired of playing music. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.640 I hate and I don't even get to pick the music, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.440 and it stinks and all that stuff, and I would 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:48.400 like to use my personality, and so he decided to 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.920 getting talk radio. But Rush Limbaugh was one of his 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:56.120 inspirations because Rush at that time was blowing up and 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.439 was coming the voice most listened to guy and news 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.400 talk radio and a lightning Rod and all that, and 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.400 wasn't under control like a DJ had to be. When 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.360 you're at DJ, you had to be under control. And 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.440 so anyway, henteres sid, I'm gonna do it. And he 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:16.520 got a couple of weekend shows at KFI, ironically enough 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:20.040 where he would end up and just did boring generic 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:24.600 news talk radio, which according I didn't hear any of it, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.600 but they said in the documentary it was just bad. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.360 You know. He was doing radio talk radio the way 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.400 he thought talk radio needed to be. Anyway, he got 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.959 laid off from that job or fired everyone to say 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.920 it it was such as snooze that he lost the gig. 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.480 And then he ended up getting a job mid days 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:48.559 just north of La Proper in Ventura, in Ventur, which 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.240 is north of La Some of the people that work 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.760 at Fox Sports Radio live in Ventur it's that close 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.320 to the San Fernando Valley studios of Fox Sports Radio, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:58.640 and so he went out there and that's where he 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.080 was in his own element, and he just used his 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:08.320 mind and created what became his life's work. All these 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:12.240 dopey characters were part of his little neighborhood on the 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.960 Phil Henry Show, and he talked about how that worked, 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.160 the creative process behind it. So if you're really into 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.000 Phil Hendry, it's great. I knew a little bit about him, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.600 like I said, but it's kind of cool to learn 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:30.240 the art, the ancient art of broadcasting. So they talked 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:34.240 about his time there and very controversial because as I 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.679 have noticed from my work in radio and my years 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.319 of doing the Overnight Show, there is a percentage. And 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.160 I'm gonna shure what percentage is. It might be twenty percent, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.640 might be ten percent. Maybe it's only five percent that 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.800 do not get the sarcasm, that don't get the bit. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.040 They're not in on it. They're completely beguiled by the bit, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.240 right They just they to them, it's a turd in 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:01.160 the punch bowl, and they are just fair upset that 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:05.840 this voice on the radio is mocking whatever they're mocking. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.120 In this case, Phil Henry was mocking the very medium 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.640 of talk radio. And so those people are very voiceters. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.560 They're upset and they scream and shout and yell and 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.240 they go lightning and thunder and all that. And so 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.040 Phil Henry had to deal with this at this little 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:23.840 small station in southern California that didn't have a very 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.120 big transmitter and Mack, in those days, you couldn't listen 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.160 to radio on an audio device like a phone. You 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.920 had to listen on the old radio, like the old 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.360 radio station that was it. You couldn't hear anything other 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.880 than the transmitter. And so he created this show and 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:44.360 they show did very well according to the documentary, but 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.280 there were the haters and so the people that ran 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.880 the radio station didn't know quite how to deal with this. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.760 But he had good ratings and so that's important. He 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.440 was tearing up the dance floor, if you will, behind 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.640 the microphone, and the ratings were coming in and he 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.640 was doing very well, so that was great. So eventually 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.120 he moved on. He said, well, I want to go 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.200 to a bigger place, and I want to I want 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.040 to create this into something bigger than it is. And 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.000 the jibber jabber, continue, you got a job in Atlanta. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.080 They talked about his time in Atlanta. Not a good fit. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:22.880 Worked in Minneapolis. And these are a big heritage news 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.360 talk stations. And when the term heritage is it's like 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.880 a blue blood. They've been around forever. They have a 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.400 built in audience. There's a certain pedigree of the listener 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:37.480 to these type of operations. And so Phil Henry was 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.480 not a fit because, again by his own admission, he 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.000 was mocking the very medium that he was working on. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.520 And they talked about that, and he was beaming with 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.920 pride how he was doing it, and he was very 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.240 good at it. But when you're dropped in to one 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.760 of these stations, it's kind of like showing up. The 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:58.920 analogy I will use, it's like showing up to Yankee 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.760 Stadium putting on the pench ripes and you've got rainbow 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.400 hair and a bunch of piercings in your nose, and 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.000 you've got a beard that looks like you're from a 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:13.760 nineteen eighties metal band. Wouldn't fit, right, wouldn't fit. That's 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.920 the Yankees, that's the iconic New York Yankees. You have 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.560 to have your facial hair trimmed, and you have to 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.920 be prim and proper, because that's what the Yankees doing. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.760 If not, you can blow it out right and blow 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.480 it out you took us. And so that was what 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.600 Henry did to talk radio. So anyway, bunced around, didn't 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.560 work in Atlanta, got fired, went to Minnesota kind of work. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.560 And then a guy that fired him in Atlanta or 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.320 helped his dismissal Atlanta, hired him for Miami. And that 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.960 is where things really took off for him in Miami 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.240 and the Phil Henry Show. And keep in mind that 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.680 can't really happen now that this career path that Phil 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:56.840 Henry went on is all but impossible in modern radio 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:03.200 because there's not enough local programming and there's not enough 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.479 people willing to pay for you to relocate the difference, 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.320 and you would have to pay your own moving expenses 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.200 to move around there. There was a point when I 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.359 remember I went to school at Saddleback to learn about radio, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.480 and they put up one of the things we did 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.920 in class. They had this DJ, and I forget the 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.600 guy's name, and I apologize, but they talked about his 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.840 DJ who had written some book about his life in radio, 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.359 and this guy was like a military brat. He had 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.760 lived and I'm not exaggerating here. It was like twenty 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.040 five or twenty six cities. And he was a middle 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.560 aged dude. He started in radio when around the age 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.240 I started. I started in radio when I was nineteen. 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.320 Danny started. He's not here today, but Danny started when 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:51.040 he was younger, a little younger than me. But we 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.399 were kids, right, We were teenagers starting in radio. And 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.480 so at that time you could start out at eighteen 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.600 or nineteen and move on up to a penthouse on 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.600 the Upper East Side and work your way up and 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.359 create the magic and all that, and move from city 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.480 to city. And there's another old radio guy who he's 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.960 had on the podcast, Ken Levine or ken Levine rather, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:18.199 and he's also talked about that experience where he was 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.840 a DJ, and you work at different radio stations and 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.840 move up. But you really can't do that anymore anyway. 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.639 So Henry did it. He went to Miami, showed it 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.600 very well in Miami, and then he ended up getting 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:32.119 a gig back in Los Angeles at the station that 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.880 had gotten rid of him originally, at KFI in LA. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.159 So he's come full circle. And then he gets a 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.560 syndication with Premiere, So not only is he doing the 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.680 night show locally in LA but now it's a syndicated show. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.560 And moving on. In the review the Malor Film review 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.480 of the documentary, this one hit a little close to home. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.920 If you watch this documentary, they interviewed the program director 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.800 of KFI, as they used to say back in Howard 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.360 Stearns Day's well, pig vomit the pig vomit of KFI, 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:12.320 and his name was David G. Hall. Still is fun fact, 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.720 fun fact for you. I and Phil Hendry have something 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.520 in common. I, Phil Henry, and Tom Likeas have something 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.359 in common. Tom Like has a radio legend back in 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.520 the day. Who's out of the business now as far 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.520 as I know. But Phil Henry, Tom Likeas and me 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.680 all were fired by David G. Hall. We all got 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.600 let go by David G. Hall. And it was odd. 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.560 It was odd seeing him on the documentary You fired, 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.760 and he was in there several times. Bill Handel, who's 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:48.119 a very talented broadcaster himself, who also used to make 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.120 fat jokes at me when I worked across the hall 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.359 near KFI back in the old days. But he was there. 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.159 Phil Handle's handle on the Law, which is syndicated by 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:02.240 the Premiere networks. Hear that occasionally on the weekend. So 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.840 it was odd seeing some people that I knew in 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.919 the documentary who were very loud and proud. Henry came 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.800 back to La Got the syndicates show and they were 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.320 pointing out one of the blessings and the curse. It's 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.760 a double edged sword about Phil Henry. Those that worshiped 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.680 him didn't have a problem with Phil Henry. Obviously a 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.399 lot of people didn't. I said the percentage maybe twenty percent, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.119 maybe ten, maybe only five, but a certain percentage of 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.879 people that listen to radio content audio content just it 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:33.120 goes right over their head. They don't understand that there's 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.520 a gag. Even though Henry legally had to announce the 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.399 beginning of every hour that this is satire, these are 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.080 not real people and all that, and yet people tune 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.240 in when the show starts. As we say in radio, 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.600 the show starts when you turn the show on. We 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.520 do a four hour show at night on the radio, 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.639 the Ben Mallor Show with my name on It is 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.879 four hours, but a lot of people will either tune 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.600 in for twenty minutes the beginning of the show, or 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.639 maybe you're getting up early to get a jump on 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.040 the traffic. We get to do very well. We have 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.800 more people listening to the last hour of the show 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.480 than the first hour of the show. Because up and 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.200 down the Eastern Seaboard, in the I ninety five corridors 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.000 we like to call it on all the big East 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.920 Coast affiliates, people are getting up and trying to beat 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:16.840 the traffic, and they're running out of their house and 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.280 they turn on the show. And maybe they turn it 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.720 on at like five twenty in the morning or five thirty, 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.080 and they listened for half an hour and that's it, 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.280 and that's great. So that's all they hear. They don't 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.800 hear what happened three hours earlier, two hours earlier, an hour. 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:33.840 So the show starts, you turn it on, and that's 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:38.120 giving a disclaimer at the beginning. Legally it allows you 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:43.560 to get out of trouble, but it does not prevent 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.680 the knuckleheads from calling up and screaming and shouting and 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:51.000 all that. So Phil became syndicated, and as it was 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:55.119 pointed out, every affiliate that he went on, it became 0:21:55.160 --> 0:22:00.240 a nightmare. It was. It was death by a thousand affiliates, 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.679 or in this case, five hundred affiliates, because every radio 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.480