1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Kabooms. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: In the air everywhere, The Fifth Hour with Ben Mahler 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: and Danny g Radio who is on assignment today not 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 3: with us on today's pod as we kick off the weekend, 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: because hey, four hours a night on the overnight clearly 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: not enough. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: In this podcast available wherever you have found the podcast 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: in pretty much everywhere in the iHeart podcast network. You 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: knew all that stuff. And we'll get the Komodo dragon 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: out of the room as we begin the pod. Why 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: are you doing the podcast but you didn't do the 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: overnight show yet? So I was away from my post 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: and some of you went batshit crazy because I was 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: away from my post for a couple of nights here 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: doing the family thing at a family assignment. But it's 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: only a couple of nights. And I still am doing 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: the podcast. The podcast is easy to do because it's 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: not in the middle of the night. I'm not tied 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: down somewhere where people are sleeping and all that. I 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: can do the podcast when a more proper time, a 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: more proper time to enjoy audio content and to do 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: audio content, which is just terrific. So we're doing the podcast. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: I'll have the pod all weekend. Obviously. Today is it's 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: the twelfth day of April, and I am celebrating a 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: teeny bit National Grilled Cheese Sandwich Day, which is always 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: a big day in the house. There are a few 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: things better than a well made Chris be cheese melted 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: on top of the bread, just outstanding, outstanding a National 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: grilled Cheese Day, and occasionally you can mix it up. Now, 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: at what point does it not become a grilled cheese? 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Is that a when you put like a little pastrami 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: in there, and then it's no longer a grilled cheese. 41 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: But it's mostly a grilled cheese. It's just a little pastrami. 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: You can put any kind of meat you want it. 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: But I'm a big grilled cheese guy, big grilled cheese guy. 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Love it's also big wind day today, so that's always 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: a exciting day. On the twelfth of April. Who comes 46 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: up with this crap? Well, on today's podcast, we will 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: have a Malor film review. That's right, a Malar film review, 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: just the content you've been looking forward to. Also have 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: the phrase of the week as well, and whatever else 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: pops up on the pod. But we begin with this. 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: So I got tipped off a couple of weeks back. 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Some of my radio minions were like, Hey, did you 53 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: hear there's this documentary about a radio guy? And I 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: was like, oh, really, I didn't think they made documentaries 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: about radio guys anymore. It's all about those cool podcasters, right, 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: everyone wants to be a podcaster. But sure enough I 57 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: heard a little more about it, and then I had 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: to track it down. Now the documentary, let's see if 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: you can figure out who it's about. This is. This 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: is not a dead giveaway at all, right, not a 61 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: dead giveaway at all. The documentary is called Henry. Who 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: could that possibly be about? Who could that possibly be about? 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: A documentary named Henry ding Ding ding ding nang. Yeah, 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Well it turns out that is a dead giveaway. So 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: this thing just came out at least I just became 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: aware of it. And it is a documentary that tracks 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: the career of a Hall of famer in radio, Phil Henry, 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: as it's described in the bio for the film, a 69 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: radio genius whose satirical brilliance reshaped comedy. And then and 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: they brought in a bunch of these real heavyweights in Hollywood, 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: like Judd Apatow and people all on that line. There's 72 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: some one of the people from the Simpsons who were 73 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: fans of Phil Henry liked Phil Henry, and then they 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: had Phil was in there as well, and then it 75 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: went behind the microphone. The Impact of the Phil Henry 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: Show is a documentary ran for like a hour and 77 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: a half, a little over an hour and a half. 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: So I found out about it and I was like, well, 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: I want to get it, and how do you get it? 80 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: And then you're like, well, it wasn't streaming that many places. 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: It was on Amazon Prime for like five bucks, and 82 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: since I'm in radio, I'm like, I don't know if 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: I want to do that. So then I started snooping around, 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: like how can I watch it without having to pay 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the five bucks? And I found this weird app on 86 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: my dive into the dark web, and I came across 87 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: this thing called let me let me find it on 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: my phone here and just beare with me. It's called Hooplah. 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: Never heard of that. It is a app through your 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: local library and you can watch documentaries, TV shows, audio 91 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: books for free. But you gonna have a library card. 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: Now. 93 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't have a library card, so I had to 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: pivot and I had to find one. I could have 95 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: signed up and that would have been easy to do 96 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: online and all that, but I was like, I don't why. 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to ease my wife, though she of 98 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: course loves loves the books, all about the books and 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: all that, and so she was able to track down 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the library card, which then allowed me to get on 101 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: said app. Well, originally it was the website. It was 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: on the website watching it. I tried to watch it. 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I had to save it, but then you had to 104 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: come back after midnight because only a certain number of 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: people could get it, and there was a lot of 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: hoops he had to jump through. But I was like, hey, 107 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: it's free, I'll save five bucks. Why not That'll buy 108 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: like one chicken nugget or something like that. When I'm 109 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: out to eat. So I go on the website, I 110 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: type in the past code, library card, wife's information and 111 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: get to the thing is all right, you've saved the 112 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Hendri documentary. I'm like, all right, hallelujah, I have saved 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: the Hendri documentary. I'm ready to go. So then I 114 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: clicked to watch it and it was like, well, no, 115 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: you have to You can't watch it on this device. 116 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: It's only available you have to download our app. And 117 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, well, this is a pain in 118 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: the ass, but I wanted to watch it. I was 119 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: motivated because I appreciate radio people, because this is my 120 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: professional career, what I've done my entire adult life. And 121 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: so I downloaded the stupid app and then I was like, oh, 122 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: I will just connect it from the app to the 123 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: big TV. Right, you do that phone the TV thing, 124 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: and you can send the stream and you can watch 125 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: it on your television and it's just like you're watching 126 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: it the regular way, and that's how you do it. 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: And so then I kept clicking on the anything wouldn't work, 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: and so I was like, oh, I'm fuxing around with it. 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell? And I just would not work. 130 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: I could not get the documentary. I was like, well, 131 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: how stupid are the people behind this app? Wouldn't you 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: think the whole point of it is for people to 133 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: enjoy the content they're getting from their tax dollars that 134 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: they're going to subsidize the library, and they would like 135 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: to watch on the television. But it wouldn't work. Now, 136 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: maybe it was a user error. It's possible right that 137 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: something I did did not resonate with the phone and 138 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: the TV. But either way, it did not work, and 139 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: so I ended up having to watch this thing on 140 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: my phone. But I enjoyed it. In fact, I liked 141 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: it so much I actually watched it a couple of times. 142 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: And so now it is the Malor film review for 143 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Henry the Documentary. I should start out first of all 144 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: with the fact that you might not know who Phil 145 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Henry is, Like, I know who Phil Henry is because 146 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: I've worked in RAID. I should have met Phil Henry 147 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: a couple of times. More on that later in this podcast, 148 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: so I know the act. He was a big star 149 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: in radio in the late nineties early two thousand. In fact, 150 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: right around the time that I came to Fox Sports Radio, 151 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: FOXS Radio lodged Phil Henry was nationally syndicated at the 152 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Premiere Networks, which is where I work at. Fox Sports 153 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Radio is a part of the Premiere Radio Networks. It 154 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: was of the Premier radio networks. Now it's just Premiere 155 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Networks that got rid of the radio. And Phil was 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: doing a syndicated show at night, and his whole shtick 157 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: is he is the host, he is the guest, and 158 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: he just has this amazing ability of sashing his way 159 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: through a steeplechase on a nightly basis, and he's able 160 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: to hornswaggle the listeners and it it's great if you 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: get it, it's great. If you don't get it, it's ridiculous. 162 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: And there was a point I didn't really get to 163 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: Phil Hendry show. He started out. When I first heard him, 164 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: he was on KFI in Los Angeles, big news talk station, 165 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is kind of stupid. 166 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: And then the more I listened, and I was doing 167 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: radio at the time, and I realized what he was 168 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: doing and how he was using the people that call 169 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the show as putty, I thought, well, that's pretty good. 170 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: So that was my first running with Phil Henry, is 171 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: that I knew of him at KFI in LA and 172 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: then I worked at Premiere and he had a syndicated 173 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: show Premiere, so our paths crossed a couple of times. 174 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: But he was doing satire. He was doing satire of 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: talk radio, which I have been accused of doing when 176 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: I talked to Marcel and Brooklyn or Cowboy and windsor 177 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: or some of the other characters that call the show. 178 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: The only difference between me and Phil Henry is I 179 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: am not doing impersonations. They're real. They are real, they 180 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: call in, they find me. I am not the one 181 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: that is doing the voice right. I might bust the balls, 182 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: I do that a lot. I like to bust balls, 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: right and all that, but I'm not the one that 184 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: is on the other side of the phone. Phil was 185 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: the person on the other side of the phone as 186 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: the guest, and he created all these fugazi characters. But 187 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: his story. If you watch the documentary, I don't want 188 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: to give the whole thing away, but I do recommend it. 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Help another radio guy out. Now. Phil's going to get 190 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: some credit. Even though I'm a tightwad. And I went 191 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: through the library to watch the documentary. You can even 192 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: just cut out the middle man. Watch it on Amazon. 193 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be some other ways the way these 194 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: things work down the line. If you're hell bent on 195 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: getting the documentary for cheaper, probably get a cheaper down 196 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: the line and all that. But I already watched it. 197 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you can get cheaper than free. And 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: so it was fascinating as someone that has worked in 199 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: the business a long time. Phil started out as a DJ, 200 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: a regular disc jockey on music radio for seventeen years. 201 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: This guy was your generic radio DDRE and just did 202 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: the normal radio crap. And there was video of him 203 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: as a DJ at KLAX here in Los Angeles ninety 204 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: seven point one, which was a music station for a 205 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: long time, became a talk station and now it's a 206 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: news talk station. But Phil was there when it was 207 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: a music station as a just a generic, boring ass DJ. 208 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: And he said in the documentary that he had a 209 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: midlife crisis he wanted to do talk radio. One of 210 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: the inspirations was Rush Limbaugh of all people, that that 211 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: was about the time when he decided early nineties. Henry 212 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: in the documentary talks about how he decided, Hey, I 213 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: want to go that direction because I'm tired of playing music. 214 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: I hate and I don't even get to pick the music, 215 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: and it stinks and all that stuff, and I would 216 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: like to use my personality, and so he decided to 217 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: getting talk radio. But Rush Limbaugh was one of his 218 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: inspirations because Rush at that time was blowing up and 219 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: was coming the voice most listened to guy and news 220 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: talk radio and a lightning Rod and all that, and 221 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: wasn't under control like a DJ had to be. When 222 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: you're at DJ, you had to be under control. And 223 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: so anyway, henteres sid, I'm gonna do it. And he 224 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: got a couple of weekend shows at KFI, ironically enough 225 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: where he would end up and just did boring generic 226 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: news talk radio, which according I didn't hear any of it, 227 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: but they said in the documentary it was just bad. 228 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: You know. He was doing radio talk radio the way 229 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: he thought talk radio needed to be. Anyway, he got 230 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: laid off from that job or fired everyone to say 231 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: it it was such as snooze that he lost the gig. 232 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: And then he ended up getting a job mid days 233 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: just north of La Proper in Ventura, in Ventur, which 234 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: is north of La Some of the people that work 235 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio live in Ventur it's that close 236 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: to the San Fernando Valley studios of Fox Sports Radio, 237 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: and so he went out there and that's where he 238 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: was in his own element, and he just used his 239 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: mind and created what became his life's work. All these 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: dopey characters were part of his little neighborhood on the 241 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show, and he talked about how that worked, 242 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the creative process behind it. So if you're really into 243 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Phil Hendry, it's great. I knew a little bit about him, 244 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: like I said, but it's kind of cool to learn 245 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: the art, the ancient art of broadcasting. So they talked 246 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: about his time there and very controversial because as I 247 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: have noticed from my work in radio and my years 248 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: of doing the Overnight Show, there is a percentage. And 249 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna shure what percentage is. It might be twenty percent, 250 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: might be ten percent. Maybe it's only five percent that 251 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: do not get the sarcasm, that don't get the bit. 252 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: They're not in on it. They're completely beguiled by the bit, 253 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: right They just they to them, it's a turd in 254 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: the punch bowl, and they are just fair upset that 255 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: this voice on the radio is mocking whatever they're mocking. 256 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: In this case, Phil Henry was mocking the very medium 257 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: of talk radio. And so those people are very voiceters. 258 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: They're upset and they scream and shout and yell and 259 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: they go lightning and thunder and all that. And so 260 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: Phil Henry had to deal with this at this little 261 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: small station in southern California that didn't have a very 262 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: big transmitter and Mack, in those days, you couldn't listen 263 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: to radio on an audio device like a phone. You 264 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: had to listen on the old radio, like the old 265 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: radio station that was it. You couldn't hear anything other 266 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: than the transmitter. And so he created this show and 267 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: they show did very well according to the documentary, but 268 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: there were the haters and so the people that ran 269 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: the radio station didn't know quite how to deal with this. 270 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: But he had good ratings and so that's important. He 271 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: was tearing up the dance floor, if you will, behind 272 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: the microphone, and the ratings were coming in and he 273 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: was doing very well, so that was great. So eventually 274 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: he moved on. He said, well, I want to go 275 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: to a bigger place, and I want to I want 276 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: to create this into something bigger than it is. And 277 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: the jibber jabber, continue, you got a job in Atlanta. 278 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: They talked about his time in Atlanta. Not a good fit. 279 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: Worked in Minneapolis. And these are a big heritage news 280 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: talk stations. And when the term heritage is it's like 281 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: a blue blood. They've been around forever. They have a 282 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: built in audience. There's a certain pedigree of the listener 283 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: to these type of operations. And so Phil Henry was 284 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: not a fit because, again by his own admission, he 285 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: was mocking the very medium that he was working on. 286 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: And they talked about that, and he was beaming with 287 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: pride how he was doing it, and he was very 288 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: good at it. But when you're dropped in to one 289 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: of these stations, it's kind of like showing up. The 290 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: analogy I will use, it's like showing up to Yankee 291 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Stadium putting on the pench ripes and you've got rainbow 292 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: hair and a bunch of piercings in your nose, and 293 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: you've got a beard that looks like you're from a 294 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties metal band. Wouldn't fit, right, wouldn't fit. That's 295 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: the Yankees, that's the iconic New York Yankees. You have 296 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: to have your facial hair trimmed, and you have to 297 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: be prim and proper, because that's what the Yankees doing. 298 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: If not, you can blow it out right and blow 299 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: it out you took us. And so that was what 300 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Henry did to talk radio. So anyway, bunced around, didn't 301 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: work in Atlanta, got fired, went to Minnesota kind of work. 302 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: And then a guy that fired him in Atlanta or 303 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: helped his dismissal Atlanta, hired him for Miami. And that 304 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: is where things really took off for him in Miami 305 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: and the Phil Henry Show. And keep in mind that 306 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: can't really happen now that this career path that Phil 307 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Henry went on is all but impossible in modern radio 308 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: because there's not enough local programming and there's not enough 309 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: people willing to pay for you to relocate the difference, 310 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: and you would have to pay your own moving expenses 311 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: to move around there. There was a point when I 312 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: remember I went to school at Saddleback to learn about radio, 313 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: and they put up one of the things we did 314 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: in class. They had this DJ, and I forget the 315 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: guy's name, and I apologize, but they talked about his 316 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: DJ who had written some book about his life in radio, 317 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: and this guy was like a military brat. He had 318 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: lived and I'm not exaggerating here. It was like twenty 319 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: five or twenty six cities. And he was a middle 320 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: aged dude. He started in radio when around the age 321 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: I started. I started in radio when I was nineteen. 322 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Danny started. He's not here today, but Danny started when 323 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: he was younger, a little younger than me. But we 324 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: were kids, right, We were teenagers starting in radio. And 325 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: so at that time you could start out at eighteen 326 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: or nineteen and move on up to a penthouse on 327 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the Upper East Side and work your way up and 328 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: create the magic and all that, and move from city 329 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: to city. And there's another old radio guy who he's 330 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: had on the podcast, Ken Levine or ken Levine rather, 331 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: and he's also talked about that experience where he was 332 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: a DJ, and you work at different radio stations and 333 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: move up. But you really can't do that anymore anyway. 334 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: So Henry did it. He went to Miami, showed it 335 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: very well in Miami, and then he ended up getting 336 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: a gig back in Los Angeles at the station that 337 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: had gotten rid of him originally, at KFI in LA. 338 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: So he's come full circle. And then he gets a 339 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: syndication with Premiere, So not only is he doing the 340 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: night show locally in LA but now it's a syndicated show. 341 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: And moving on. In the review the Malor Film review 342 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: of the documentary, this one hit a little close to home. 343 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: If you watch this documentary, they interviewed the program director 344 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: of KFI, as they used to say back in Howard 345 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: Stearns Day's well, pig vomit the pig vomit of KFI, 346 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: and his name was David G. Hall. Still is fun fact, 347 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: fun fact for you. I and Phil Hendry have something 348 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: in common. I, Phil Henry, and Tom Likeas have something 349 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: in common. Tom Like has a radio legend back in 350 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: the day. Who's out of the business now as far 351 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: as I know. But Phil Henry, Tom Likeas and me 352 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: all were fired by David G. Hall. We all got 353 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: let go by David G. Hall. And it was odd. 354 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: It was odd seeing him on the documentary You fired, 355 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: and he was in there several times. Bill Handel, who's 356 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: a very talented broadcaster himself, who also used to make 357 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: fat jokes at me when I worked across the hall 358 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: near KFI back in the old days. But he was there. 359 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: Phil Handle's handle on the Law, which is syndicated by 360 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: the Premiere networks. Hear that occasionally on the weekend. So 361 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: it was odd seeing some people that I knew in 362 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: the documentary who were very loud and proud. Henry came 363 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: back to La Got the syndicates show and they were 364 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: pointing out one of the blessings and the curse. It's 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: a double edged sword about Phil Henry. Those that worshiped 366 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: him didn't have a problem with Phil Henry. Obviously a 367 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: lot of people didn't. I said the percentage maybe twenty percent, 368 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: maybe ten, maybe only five, but a certain percentage of 369 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: people that listen to radio content audio content just it 370 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: goes right over their head. They don't understand that there's 371 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: a gag. Even though Henry legally had to announce the 372 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: beginning of every hour that this is satire, these are 373 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: not real people and all that, and yet people tune 374 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: in when the show starts. As we say in radio, 375 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: the show starts when you turn the show on. We 376 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: do a four hour show at night on the radio, 377 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: the Ben Mallor Show with my name on It is 378 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: four hours, but a lot of people will either tune 379 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: in for twenty minutes the beginning of the show, or 380 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: maybe you're getting up early to get a jump on 381 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: the traffic. We get to do very well. We have 382 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: more people listening to the last hour of the show 383 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: than the first hour of the show. Because up and 384 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: down the Eastern Seaboard, in the I ninety five corridors 385 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: we like to call it on all the big East 386 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Coast affiliates, people are getting up and trying to beat 387 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: the traffic, and they're running out of their house and 388 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: they turn on the show. And maybe they turn it 389 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: on at like five twenty in the morning or five thirty, 390 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: and they listened for half an hour and that's it, 391 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: and that's great. So that's all they hear. They don't 392 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: hear what happened three hours earlier, two hours earlier, an hour. 393 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: So the show starts, you turn it on, and that's 394 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: giving a disclaimer at the beginning. Legally it allows you 395 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: to get out of trouble, but it does not prevent 396 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: the knuckleheads from calling up and screaming and shouting and 397 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: all that. So Phil became syndicated, and as it was 398 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: pointed out, every affiliate that he went on, it became 399 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: a nightmare. It was. It was death by a thousand affiliates, 400 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: or in this case, five hundred affiliates, because every radio 401 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: station Phil would go on, the same process would start 402 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: over where people were a little off balanced there. They 403 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: were bobbing and weaving with the show. They didn't know 404 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: what was going on, and so it was endless, endless 405 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: complaints and you blow, you suck, you're terrible and all that. 406 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: And so there was this upsurge right in this talk zilla, 407 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: this monster, this fire breathing monster from Phil Henry and 408 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: his show. And so that was a problem. But here's 409 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: and you'll learn this in the documentary. And again I'm 410 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: probably going too far into it, but trust me, the 411 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: documentary is better than me recapping the documentary on this 412 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Mallard podcast edition the fifth Hour review of the Henry Documentary. 413 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: But there was one point that was the point of demarcation, 414 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: i'll call it for the Phil Hendry Show. It was 415 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: something that affected me and what I did and everyone 416 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: in radio because we were essentially told to shut the 417 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: f up, shut the f up because of a booby. 418 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: That's right, a booby. If you remember Janet Jackson and 419 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: Justin Timberlake at halftime of the Super Bowl, they were 420 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: performing and we had the wardrobe malfunction heard around the world. 421 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Who knew that a nipple would cause corporate broadcasting to 422 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: lose their minds? But that's exactly what happened, and it 423 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: was it touched close to home because I know what 424 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: I had to deal with at the time, and I'm 425 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: a small time player, right, I'm not a big time player. 426 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm a small time player, especially at that time. And so, okay, fine. 427 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: It was a lot of uproar, and Henry pretty much 428 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: said that was the beginning of the end of his 429 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: show as the boss of Premiere and one of the 430 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: coolest people. I don't know anyone that's ever said anything 431 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: bad about this guy. His name is Craig Kitchen. He's 432 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: now an agent, but he ran the Premiere Radio Networks 433 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: when I when I started, he was the guy that 434 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: had one rule. I mentioned a while back on the 435 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: on the show this week, I think I mentioned it 436 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: that he is His one rule was no popcorn because 437 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: he did not like the smell of burned popcorn. That 438 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: would just said. But Craig Kitchen went to Washington, d 439 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: C with a bunch of other radio muckety MUCKs and 440 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: they all went to d C after Janet Jackson showed 441 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: her her nipple the nip Slip, because they were worried 442 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: about the FCC dragging all of their radio stations down 443 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: a right, so they were like, all right, we're gonna 444 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: go and we're gonna say all right, well we're not 445 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: We're playing. And Phil Hendrys, as he pointed out in 446 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: the documentary, like, well, this is a television thing. This 447 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: is not radio. We can have and this is my line, 448 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: not his line. We can show nipples all we want. 449 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: Radio we were allowed to show nipple because you can't 450 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: see them. It's radio. Hello, it's radio. But anyway, there 451 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: was the shock jock, the over the top shock jock 452 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: that was a lot of ripoffs of Howard Stern who 453 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: also there was some b roll on Stern in this 454 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: number of radio legends, the Greaseman from DC. There was 455 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: a big radio guy in Miami that was prominently mentioned 456 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: in this as well. I mean, there's some heavy hitters. 457 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: If you're a radio nerd, this documentary is great. Anyway 458 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: gets the point. So Phil Henry the way he really 459 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: the story. This guy, Craig Kitchen, our boss, went to 460 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: DC to meet with the FCC and then they had 461 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: to come back and edit a bunch of stuff. And 462 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: it was a big, big to do, right, big to 463 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: do and all that, and they'd to bleep some things. 464 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: And that really was the beginning of the end. As 465 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Phil said, he had reached the pinnacle of broadcasting and 466 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be fun, and it wasn't that 467 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: much fun, right, because there's a lot of micromanaging that 468 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: goes on when you get to that level, especially with 469 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the show like that. And and the other thing is 470 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: the advertisers, you know, and my experience, often the people 471 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: that have no sense of humor are advertised. They're so paranoid, 472 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: they're so over the top, freaking out over one person 473 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: complaining that they don't have any wiggle room for humor 474 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: because they are afraid that someone might take it the 475 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: wrong way. When I think, as an advertiser, if you 476 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: can get people laughing and make your product part of 477 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: the show, whatever show that is, you're killing it, right, 478 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: You're absolutely killing it. That's great for the sponsor. It 479 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: just becomes a part of the experience. Anyway, long story, 480 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: short documentary which just came out, Henry, I'll give it 481 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: on the Malor report card. I'll give it a solid 482 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: give it in a minus, and I have a play, 483 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: I'll give it a minds. But if you're you gotta 484 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: be into radio. If you're not into radio, if you 485 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: don't know who Phil Henry is, that's fine. But if 486 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: you're into radio, that's great and audio content and all that. 487 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: I guess Phil is still doing a podcast where he's 488 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: just doing his characters and all that, and so anyway, 489 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: check that out. It is available right now again Amazon 490 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: streaming and some other places. We should try to probably 491 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: get Phil on the show. Phil would do it. I 492 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: think Phil would come on. I met Phil a couple 493 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: of times. Typical radio guy. I'm in introvert. He seemed 494 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: like an introvert. I didn't really talk to him much. 495 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: It was at one of the holiday parties, the premiere 496 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: holiday parties, and so I recall he was there and 497 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: there were some heavy hitters, Art Bell, the Legend, Doctor 498 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Laura was a huge star at that time, Jim Rome, 499 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: Matt Drudge. Mean, these are some big time players. And 500 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: one of the bosses was trying to show off and 501 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: he was introducing me to all these people, you know, 502 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: because it was like a major flex for the boss, like, hey, 503 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: look cool, I know, you know, and all this stuff 504 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: and oh that's cool. I'm a radio nerd, so why not. 505 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, check that out. And before we get out 506 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: of here, on this Friday edition of the Fifth Hour, 507 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: time now for the phrase of the week. The phrase 508 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: of the week on this one by request a important 509 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: media mogul by request asking for the origin of Punch 510 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: and Judy Hitter. Now, if you're unfamiliar with Punch and Judy, 511 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: this is an old baseball colloquial term. As we're into 512 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: the baseball term portion of the show, we did two 513 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: baseball terms last weekend on the pod. So this one, 514 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Punch and Judy is actually a reference. This is very hot. 515 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 1: This is a baseball term, but it is a reference 516 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: to a huppet show from Italy in the sixteenth century 517 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: that didn't really get in embraced until it went to 518 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom. So we're going back hundreds and hundreds 519 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: of years. Who goofed, I've got to know. So Punch 520 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: and Judy Hitter. Punch and Judy Hitter a famous we 521 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: are told marinette performance that did begin in Italy back 522 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: in the day, but became popular in the UK years later, 523 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: and the popularity thought it went down because of some 524 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: controversial themes, including Punch's infamous tendency to pound the heck 525 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: out of his wife to beat up his wife as 526 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: part of the Marinet Show. And so, a punch and 527 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: judy hitter, it's a baseball term, to my knowledge, does 528 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: not involve anything to do with domestic violence. A punch 529 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: and judy hitter in baseball, it's kind of a slap hitter, right, 530 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: banjo hitter. You're a punch and judy hitter. You're a 531 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: banjo hitter. You don't have a good exit velocity. You 532 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: don't have good exit velocity. Uh, and you know, hits 533 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: hit the ball kind of soft, but you find ways 534 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: to get the ball through the infield and past you know, 535 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: past the infield and in front of the outfield and 536 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: all that, and so uh, it's that's what it's a 537 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: banjo hitter. And that plunk playing the punch, the puppet 538 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: held the bat very awkwardly, and that led to punch 539 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: and judy being a hitter, has a poor batting stance, 540 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: and as a banjo hitter doesn't have good exit velocity 541 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: but is able to hit. So a baseball term that 542 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: goes all the way back, way before baseball, way before 543 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: baseball too, Italiano in the sixteenth century, punch in, Judy, Hitter, 544 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: have a wonderful rest of your of your day today, 545 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend as we slide on in here. We'll 546 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: have new pods all weekend long here on the fifth hour. 547 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: Danny is scheduled to be with me tomorrow. He is 548 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: on assignment today, but he should be back tomorrow. We'll 549 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: have a fresh weekend of pods and we will catch 550 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: you next time. And as Danny would say if he 551 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: was here, Asta pasta got a murder. I gotta go.