WEBVTT - 9/11’s Immigration Legacy

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<v Speaker 1>This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and Kurturre.

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<v Speaker 1>Latino Studios United, Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at

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<v Speaker 1>the forefront of the movement. I'm Maria Ino Jossa, No

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<v Speaker 1>bayan or La Latino USA. Listener, Here's an episode from

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<v Speaker 1>our archives. I was so happy on that September eleventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago. I remember it was a slow morning

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<v Speaker 1>that morning because that day for CNN, I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a day off. I was going to work

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<v Speaker 1>that night. I was going to be able to be

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<v Speaker 1>with my kids. I could take them to school on

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<v Speaker 1>their first day. And I even woke up early enough

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the gym super early. I was walking

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<v Speaker 1>back from the gym that morning, and I had my

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<v Speaker 1>walkman on, Yes, a walkman. I was listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>radio El Vasilone La Manana. It's a raunchy kind of

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<v Speaker 1>morning show, shock jocks in Spanish, and a caller calls

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<v Speaker 1>into the radio show and she's totally freaked out. She's screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>She's saying that a plane has crashed into a tower

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<v Speaker 1>at the World Trade Center. And the jockeys, the DJs,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, yeah, yucking it up, like sure, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they said, oh my god, it's true. They

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<v Speaker 1>heard the sirens in the background. I ran back to

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<v Speaker 1>my apartment, ran up five flights of stairs. CNN had

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<v Speaker 1>already called, and I was to go downtown to get

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<v Speaker 1>as close as I could to the World Trade Center.

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<v Speaker 1>I got on the subway and it was inside the

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<v Speaker 1>subway with a bunch of others, scared New Yorkers that

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<v Speaker 1>we realized that a second plane had hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Just moments ago, so maybe eighteen minutes after the first impact,

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<v Speaker 3>the second tower was impacted with what appeared to be

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<v Speaker 3>another passenger plane.

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of the subway or someplace around twenty

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<v Speaker 1>third Street, and I started walking downtown and waves of

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<v Speaker 1>people were already pushing their way uptown away from the

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<v Speaker 1>World Trade Center, and their faces were filled with trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>Cars basically had stopped. There was no movement, no traffic,

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to go their doors were opened and their car

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<v Speaker 1>radios were tuned into the same radio station. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a news station echoing through the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>Ears, but they're obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when suddenly I saw the tower fall, the first one.

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<v Speaker 5>I got the building, now I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I started screaming.

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<v Speaker 6>Top Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>CNN had told me to get to Saint Vincent's Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Center that was just north of what would now be

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<v Speaker 1>known as Ground zero. I gathered outside of that hospital

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<v Speaker 1>with the New York Press Corps, and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>sea of green and white coming out of the hospital doors.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the nurses and doctors in their scrubs and

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<v Speaker 1>white sheets, put over chairs so that they were ready

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<v Speaker 1>to receive all of the wounded, all of the survivors.

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<v Speaker 1>No one came. There are a lot of questions about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so where were you on September eleventh? Where

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<v Speaker 1>were you when it happened? What do you remember? It's

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<v Speaker 1>been twenty years, but that time hasn't dulled my memory.

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<v Speaker 1>My home was under attack that day, and I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>ever forget. From Utro Media and RX It's Latino, USA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mariet Inojosa. Today nine to eleven, we look at

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<v Speaker 1>how one catastrophic day altered the US's stance towards immigration

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<v Speaker 1>that would affect it for decades to come. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we all immediately knew on September eleventh, twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>ago was that this event was going to resonate across

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<v Speaker 1>time and borders. Almost three thousand people from more than

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<v Speaker 1>ninety countries died on that day. Thousands more are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with lasting injuries, depression, and like me PTSD, including a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of first responders, the ground zero cleanup workers, many

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<v Speaker 1>of them who were undocumented, and people from the community.

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<v Speaker 1>But even before those physical and mental traumas really manifested

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<v Speaker 1>in full, very quickly, a new political reality emerged from fear.

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<v Speaker 1>In that moment, people found themselves willing to grant the

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<v Speaker 1>government control over just about anything that could be tied

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<v Speaker 1>back to national security, believing that was the way to

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<v Speaker 1>keep Americans safe from terrorism. And soon after that, the

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<v Speaker 1>panic over keeping the country safe evolved into an ugly

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing debate over yes immigration. Once again, politicians and journalists

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<v Speaker 1>call for the tightening of US orders, toughening up our

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<v Speaker 1>immigration system large and keeping people out.

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<v Speaker 5>The public understands that strict enforcement of immigration laws is

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<v Speaker 5>a very helpful way of stopping and reducing the terrorist threat.

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<v Speaker 7>And you cannot put those two things in the separate

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<v Speaker 7>boxes and deal with immigration over here in border security

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<v Speaker 7>over here.

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<v Speaker 5>I want the borders under our control.

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<v Speaker 7>And I don't see anything either peculiar about that or

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<v Speaker 7>unseemly are insensitive.

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<v Speaker 1>Newsrooms were under pressure to defer to pro US narratives,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you questioned any of this, well, that made

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<v Speaker 1>you an unpatriotic American. A total crackdown on refugees and

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<v Speaker 1>migrants would soon be underway, and this approach would inform

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<v Speaker 1>the US government's next major moves, including the creation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Homeland Security, which did not exist before

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh. It also led to the dismantling of the

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<v Speaker 1>ins the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and replacing it with

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<v Speaker 1>several new agencies, including ICE, immigration and Customs Enforcement. But

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<v Speaker 1>to really understand just how much nine to eleven changed

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<v Speaker 1>the entire narrative around immigration in the United States, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go back a bit further. Our producer Alejandra s.

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<v Speaker 1>Aasad is going to take it from here.

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<v Speaker 5>The first year of the New Millennium was one for

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<v Speaker 5>the history books after surviving the y two K computer scare,

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<v Speaker 5>we had the Sydney Summer Olympics.

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<v Speaker 8>More than ten thousand athletes with the Olympic Games have

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<v Speaker 8>come down under.

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<v Speaker 5>The premiere of the hit reality series Survivor, the first

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<v Speaker 5>crew to live on the International Space Station one lift

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<v Speaker 5>off of.

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<v Speaker 2>The Soyer's rocket, beginning the first expedition to the International space.

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<v Speaker 5>And also in two thousand new US Census, the National

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<v Speaker 5>Survey determined that more than two hundred and eighty one

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<v Speaker 5>million people lived in this country, the largest number in

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<v Speaker 5>its history up to that point, and in November, following

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<v Speaker 5>a historically close and contentious election.

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<v Speaker 9>By stand by, CNN right now is moving our earlier

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<v Speaker 9>declaration of Florida back to the too close to cole column. Ah,

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<v Speaker 9>this no longer is a victory four or Vice President Gore.

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<v Speaker 4>Just moments ago, I spoke with George W.

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<v Speaker 9>Bush and congratulated him on becoming the forty third president

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<v Speaker 9>of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty seven days after Americans went to the polls, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we have a winner.

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<v Speaker 5>Now it can be said President elect Bush. Bush was

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<v Speaker 5>elected with thirty five percent of the Latino vote, the

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<v Speaker 5>highest LATINX turnout for Republican since Ronald Reagan in nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>eighty four, and this was pretty significant. The Latino population

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<v Speaker 5>had expanded by more than fifty percent over the last

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<v Speaker 5>decade to more than thirty five million people. Latinos represented

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<v Speaker 5>a rapidly growing voter block that couldn't be easily ignored anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Capitalizing on this political moment, the Bush administration introduced an

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<v Speaker 5>agenda that indicated pro immigration reform was in the works,

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<v Speaker 5>especially to help and benefit Mexicans. As the former governor

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<v Speaker 5>of Texas, Bush had developed a friendly relationship with then

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<v Speaker 5>Mexican President. We sent the fox that continued into his presidency.

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<v Speaker 10>President, I want you to know that we consider you

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<v Speaker 10>a friend of Mexico, a friend of Mexican people, in

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<v Speaker 10>a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 5>In February two thousand and one, a joint US Mexico

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<v Speaker 5>panel released recommendations for future immigration policy, including streamlining the

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<v Speaker 5>process for Mexicans to attain visas and legal status in

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<v Speaker 5>the US.

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<v Speaker 11>We exchanged ideas about safe and orderly migration, a policy

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<v Speaker 11>that respects individuals on both sides.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the border, and according to reports from July two

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<v Speaker 5>thousand and one, the White House was even considering offering

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<v Speaker 5>permanent residency to undocumented Mexicans in the US. This move

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<v Speaker 5>would have dramatically changed the lives of more than three

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<v Speaker 5>million people in this country. That summer, Congress was deliberating

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<v Speaker 5>several bills to offer protections and citizenship opportunities to immigrant

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<v Speaker 5>farm workers, but come fall the bills were shelved. Nine

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<v Speaker 5>to eleven had ushered in a new political atmosphere where

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<v Speaker 5>pro immigrant legislation just didn't stand a chance. Instead, issues

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<v Speaker 5>like securing borders and gathering intelligence became top priorities. For example,

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<v Speaker 5>the Transportation Security Administration was created TSA. It also came

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<v Speaker 5>with the new airport screening rules. That's why you have

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<v Speaker 5>to take off your shoes at security or X rayal

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<v Speaker 5>your electronics. The US Patriot Act was passed only forty

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<v Speaker 5>five days after the attacks. It gave the government power

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<v Speaker 5>to monitor your phone records and your Internet use, and

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<v Speaker 5>access your personal records like individual finances. This was all

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<v Speaker 5>done in the name of fighting terrorism. Nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 5>also normalized anti immigrant attitudes on a national scale. The

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen hijackers behind nine to eleven were all from Middle

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<v Speaker 5>Eastern countries, and several arrived in the US while before

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<v Speaker 5>the attacks, the idea that people born outside of this

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<v Speaker 5>country could become its biggest threat turned into a mainstream

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<v Speaker 5>policy priority almost overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald J.

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<v Speaker 12>Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of

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<v Speaker 12>Muslims entering the United States until our countries resent.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember Donald Trump's Muslim ban just four years ago?

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<v Speaker 10>What the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 5>One of the most obvious precedents for it was the

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<v Speaker 5>Bush administrations National Security Entree Exit Registration System end SEERS

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<v Speaker 5>for short. It was established within a year of nine

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<v Speaker 5>to eleven.

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<v Speaker 13>It was a special registration program for certain individuals that

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<v Speaker 13>came from countries that had a historic tie to terrorism.

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<v Speaker 13>We just had to give closer scrutiny to those individuals

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<v Speaker 13>to make sure they had legitimate travel to the United States.

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<v Speaker 5>For nearly a decade, non citizens entering the US had

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<v Speaker 5>to register with the federal government. That meant giving their fingerprints, photos,

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<v Speaker 5>and submitting to interrogation. They were monitored by immigration officials

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<v Speaker 5>and tracked to make sure they left the country as intended.

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<v Speaker 5>Overstaying their visas meant arrests, fines, and deportations. All men

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<v Speaker 5>sixteen years in older from a list of twenty five

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<v Speaker 5>countries were forced to participate in the nciers program. Twenty

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<v Speaker 5>four of those countries were a majority Muslim, including Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt,

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<v Speaker 5>and the United Arab Emirates. The four countries that the

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<v Speaker 5>nine eleven high jackers were from, over eighty thousand men

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<v Speaker 5>and boys were registered and more than thirteen thousand were

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<v Speaker 5>put in the pipeline for deportation. Now, this endeavor ultimately failed.

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<v Speaker 5>The program didn't result in a single terrorism related conviction,

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<v Speaker 5>not one. En SEARS was suspended in twenty eleven and

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<v Speaker 5>ended in twenty sixteen under the Obama administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Obama's move comes only one day after Donald Trump appeared

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<v Speaker 2>to reiterate his pledge to reinstate this very registry when

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<v Speaker 2>answering a question from a For the.

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<v Speaker 5>Past twenty years, immigration and terrorism have been handled within

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<v Speaker 5>the same federal organization. Not even a month after nine

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<v Speaker 5>to eleven, the Bush administration created the Office of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 5>It became a cabinet level department a year later with

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<v Speaker 5>the passage of the Homeland Security Act.

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<v Speaker 11>The Homeland Security Act of two thousand and two takes

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<v Speaker 11>the next critical steps in defending our country continuing threat

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<v Speaker 11>of terrorism. The threat of mass murder on our own

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<v Speaker 11>soil will be met with a unified, effective response. Dozens

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<v Speaker 11>of agencies charged with homeland security will now be located within.

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<v Speaker 5>One DHS is huge, with twenty two agencies under its purview,

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<v Speaker 5>and its responsibilities are vast. DHS is in charge of

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<v Speaker 5>national cybersecurity, the Coastguard, the Secret Service, and the Countering

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<v Speaker 5>Weapons of Mass Destruction Office, just to name a few.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is also the same department that processes and

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<v Speaker 5>police's new immigrants to the United States. Immigration and Customs

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<v Speaker 5>Enforcement aka ICE didn't exist until two thousand and two.

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<v Speaker 5>It's also a part of DHS. The agency's responsibilities include

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<v Speaker 5>enforcing border security, regulating immigration, and removing quote criminal non

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<v Speaker 5>city from the United States. In the name of national security.

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<v Speaker 5>Immigrants would be formally recorded, fetted, tracked, detained, held in

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<v Speaker 5>legal limbo for decades, and subject to brutality and mistreatment

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<v Speaker 5>at the hands of enforcement officers. This isn't to say

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<v Speaker 5>that immigration enforcement wasn't happening before nine to eleven, but

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<v Speaker 5>with all these new security policies and agencies, immigrants became

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<v Speaker 5>obvious mainstream targets.

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<v Speaker 14>ICE will attack thousands of families, separating children from parents.

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<v Speaker 13>Passionate protesters today in Chicago joined those in cities around

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<v Speaker 13>the nation.

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<v Speaker 5>ICE has only become more powerful over the years, with

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<v Speaker 5>record level detainments and deportations over the past decade under

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<v Speaker 5>the Obama and Trump administrations.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, let's just remember that the largest deportation happened

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<v Speaker 15>under President Obama. There are many critics called them the

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<v Speaker 15>deporter in Chief, and that was something like four hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 15>So when you're talking about millions here, it is unprecedented.

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<v Speaker 16>Several loud and angry protests were held across the country

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<v Speaker 16>today of a President Trump's decision to start immigration raids tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>And the entire reason for its existence is based on

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<v Speaker 5>a single idea that immigrants pose an ongoing threat to

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<v Speaker 5>this country, an idea that was crystallized after nine to

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<v Speaker 5>eleven and that we're still grappling with to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, more on the repercussions of

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<v Speaker 1>the nine to eleven attacks on immigrant communities, and we

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<v Speaker 1>learn about real ID, a seemingly innocuous federal legislation that

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<v Speaker 1>risks pushing hundreds of thousands of undocumented drivers into a

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<v Speaker 1>colliding path with ICE. Stay with US. Yes, hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the break, we heard about the creation of the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Homeland Security, but that was just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>The police which followed, under the guise of securing the nation,

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<v Speaker 1>would infiltrate numerous aspects of local and federal governance, including

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<v Speaker 1>states departments of motor vehicles. But at the other end

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<v Speaker 1>of the new quote unquote anti terrorism policies, the people

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<v Speaker 1>most affected would once again be immigrant families. So how

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<v Speaker 1>did September eleventh pave the way for something known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Real id? Latino USA producer Julieta Martinelli is going

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up the story from here.

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<v Speaker 14>In August two thousand and eight, Sulema, my mom received

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<v Speaker 14>a letter in the mail. I was living a few

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<v Speaker 14>blocks away at the time, and she called me immediately.

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<v Speaker 12>My friend Chui had got a letter before me, so

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<v Speaker 12>I knew that it might happen.

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<v Speaker 5>To me too.

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<v Speaker 14>The letter came from the Department of Drivers Services in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 14>where we had lived since nineteen ninety seven, when my mom,

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<v Speaker 14>my older brother, and I immigrated from Argentina. We knew

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<v Speaker 14>immediately it was bad news. The letter said that her

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<v Speaker 14>license was about to expire. Georgia at the time granted

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<v Speaker 14>driver's licenses for ten years. My mom had gotten hers

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<v Speaker 14>in ninety eight when she still had a tourist visa.

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<v Speaker 14>Just months after arriving. The letter said in order to

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<v Speaker 14>renew it she would need to go to the DMB

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<v Speaker 14>and provide documents proving that she was living legally in

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<v Speaker 14>the US.

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<v Speaker 12>It was like the end of the world because I

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<v Speaker 12>knew that there was no way I could provide that number.

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<v Speaker 14>The problem was, for nearly eleven years we've lived in

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<v Speaker 14>the US undocumented.

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<v Speaker 12>You feel like the will is opening on your feet

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<v Speaker 12>because you know sheen there on since we are going

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<v Speaker 12>to be different, and it felt really very bad now.

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<v Speaker 14>Being undocumented affected our daily lives in endless ways. We

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<v Speaker 14>couldn't travel, we hadn't seen our family in years, and

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<v Speaker 14>just a couple of years earlier, my mom had gotten

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<v Speaker 14>laid off. I couldn't even go to college at the time,

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<v Speaker 14>but I had managed to get hired as an intern

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<v Speaker 14>at a Spanish language newspaper, and there I had been

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<v Speaker 14>trained to be a reporter. I was actually working two

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<v Speaker 14>jobs at the newspaper during the day, and when I

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<v Speaker 14>got off, I would work until four am as a

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<v Speaker 14>shift manager. At a nearby taco bill. Working with questionable

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<v Speaker 14>paperwork meant you had to take what was available. Often

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<v Speaker 14>your bosses knew that too, and your wages reflected that.

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<v Speaker 14>But my mom being able to drive in suburban Georgia

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<v Speaker 14>was huge and necessary. There was just one train line

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<v Speaker 14>to Atlanta, which required a twenty minute drive to the

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<v Speaker 14>station from our house, and the spotty at best public

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<v Speaker 14>bus system. A driver license meant that she could drive

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<v Speaker 14>to clean houses daily, that she wouldn't need to work

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<v Speaker 14>for someone else, that she could go and get groceries

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<v Speaker 14>to the park on the weekends. Think of how often

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<v Speaker 14>you show your ID and your daily life to travel,

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<v Speaker 14>to walk into a bar, even to buy cough syrup

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<v Speaker 14>at the pharmacy. But more importantly, it meant she could

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<v Speaker 14>register her car, she could get insurance. She was a

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<v Speaker 14>lifeline for our family.

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<v Speaker 12>It was a risk that we had to run. There

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<v Speaker 12>was no other way. If it was like put your

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<v Speaker 12>life in a permanent stop if you couldn't drive. We

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<v Speaker 12>decided to go on because we came to this country

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<v Speaker 12>to work to improve.

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<v Speaker 14>Like my mom, non citizen drivers all over the state

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<v Speaker 14>with licenses set to expire that year received similar letters

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<v Speaker 14>in two thousand and three, Georgia had started to verify

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<v Speaker 14>the legal status of all applicants by requiring immigration paperwork

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<v Speaker 14>and running it through various data. That's why my brother

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<v Speaker 14>and I had never been able to apply for a license.

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<v Speaker 14>We were just too young before the cutoff. But my

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<v Speaker 14>mom was one of the last holdouts, people who had

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<v Speaker 14>received their driver's licenses before the state's more stringent policies.

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<v Speaker 14>Plus Georgia was streamlining. On January first, two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 14>the Georgia Department of Driver's Services officially began using a

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<v Speaker 14>program called Safe. It was used to confirm people's identities

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<v Speaker 14>and lawful presence in the country in order to grant

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<v Speaker 14>driver's licenses. Save was a program created by USCIS. That's

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<v Speaker 14>the US Citizenship and Immigration Services, the agency that administers

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<v Speaker 14>the country's naturalization and immigration system. It too, lives under

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<v Speaker 14>the purview of the overreaching Department of Homeland Security. That

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<v Speaker 14>was supposed to make things faster and more accurate instead

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<v Speaker 14>of running names and socials through several databases. This was

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<v Speaker 14>the future all in one. Around the same time, the

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<v Speaker 14>Georgia legislature began considering a bill to make driving while

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<v Speaker 14>unlicensed a felony. A felony, any felony would later need

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<v Speaker 14>to be disclosed to USCIS if an opportunity ever arose

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<v Speaker 14>to legalize status.

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<v Speaker 12>It was scary, It was really scary, and we were

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<v Speaker 12>running like playing hide and seek. That was it with

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<v Speaker 12>the police, with the immigration things. It was very hard time.

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<v Speaker 14>By the end of two thousand and eight, my mom

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<v Speaker 14>was on her first of many years driving unlicensed, and

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<v Speaker 14>so was I but neither of us realized just how

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<v Speaker 14>tired what was happening in our present was to an

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<v Speaker 14>event that had shaken the whole nation nearly a decade earlier.

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<v Speaker 14>This wasn't just Georgia being Georgia. It was happening across

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<v Speaker 14>the nation. But how was life before ninety eleven changed

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<v Speaker 14>it completely? Things weren't all that better. There were thousands

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<v Speaker 14>of undocumented people like me and my family who were

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 14>living in states that did not grant driver's licenses. Some

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 14>of them traveled to states like Washington, North Carolina, or Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 14>where proof of legal status was not necessary. There you

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<v Speaker 14>could get a driver's license and register your vehicle so

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<v Speaker 14>you had a valid tag. In other states, undocumented people

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<v Speaker 14>had been able to access driver's licenses using other documents,

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<v Speaker 14>sometimes borrowing a friend's address. In other places, like Virginia,

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<v Speaker 14>the state allowed waivers that identified residant drivers as non

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<v Speaker 14>citizens but still allow them to legally drive. The American

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<v Speaker 14>Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, which represents the state agencies

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<v Speaker 14>that issue licenses, had even begun urging Congress to issue

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<v Speaker 14>uniform rules regarding the granting of licenses to undocumented people

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<v Speaker 14>instead of leaving it to each state, and there were

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<v Speaker 14>a lot of good reasons to do it.

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<v Speaker 9>More than ten other states already allow it, and advocates

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<v Speaker 9>say it would make the road safer and raise millions

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<v Speaker 9>of dollars in revenue.

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<v Speaker 17>It would be good for the state, good for the

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<v Speaker 17>undocumented individuals who could get the licenses, good for safety,

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<v Speaker 17>good for revenue, which is in a way those leaves.

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<v Speaker 14>And some states were making progress. In the summer of

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<v Speaker 14>two thousand and one, The New York Times reported that

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<v Speaker 14>the Hispanic liaison to the New York County government had

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<v Speaker 14>asked the DMB to accept the individual Taxpayer Identification Number,

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<v Speaker 14>which is issued by the IRS on applications for licenses.

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<v Speaker 14>While undocumented people in places like New York City were

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<v Speaker 14>close to finally being able to get legal IDs and

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<v Speaker 14>driver's licenses. September eleven ended those conversations completely. Immediately after

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<v Speaker 14>the terrorist attacks, as information trickled out slowly, the twenty

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<v Speaker 14>four hour news cycle was dominated by stories of the

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<v Speaker 14>terrorists who had been able to do what they did

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<v Speaker 14>because they had been able to obtain legal identifications.

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<v Speaker 7>This terrorist attack did fly to Boston from Portland, Maine,

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<v Speaker 7>and interestingly enough, they used New Jersey driver's license as identification.

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<v Speaker 14>Sixteen of the nineteen terrorists held ballid driver's licenses or

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<v Speaker 14>identification cars from states including Virginia and Florida. These documents

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<v Speaker 14>had enabled them to board planes, open bank accounts, and

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<v Speaker 14>rent apartments. The federal government was under mounting pressure to

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<v Speaker 14>publicly address this quote vulnerability in the system.

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<v Speaker 16>The nine to eleven Commission noted all but one of

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<v Speaker 16>the nine to eleven Commission hijackers acquired some form of

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<v Speaker 16>US identification document, some by fraud. Acquisition of these forms

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<v Speaker 16>of identification would have assisted them in boarding commercial flights,

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<v Speaker 16>renting cars, and other necessary activities.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the commission report.

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<v Speaker 14>In the following two years, nearly every state with potential

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<v Speaker 14>gaps took measures to toughen its roles. A traumatized nation

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<v Speaker 14>needed some semblance of security of control, and this was

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<v Speaker 14>one of the things the government could actually tell citizens

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<v Speaker 14>that they were trying to reign in. Initially, politicians began

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<v Speaker 14>calling out for a national database so that policies mirrored

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<v Speaker 14>each other's state to state, but issuing of identification cards

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<v Speaker 14>false under state legislation, so the federal government could not

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<v Speaker 14>take over and force an uniform set of guidelines. That Congress,

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<v Speaker 14>the real ID Act of two thousand and five, was

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<v Speaker 14>passed with bipartisan support. It found a way to force

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<v Speaker 14>states to update their laws by mandating that DMBs require

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<v Speaker 14>a proof of citizenship to grant real ID driver's licenses

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<v Speaker 14>and ID cards, among other measures, Applicants would have to

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<v Speaker 14>prove their legal status by showing documents like a US passport,

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<v Speaker 14>a Social Security card, or even a Green card. This

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<v Speaker 14>was a huge blow to undocumented people because it meant

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<v Speaker 14>the federal government had succeeded in forcing the hand of

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<v Speaker 14>states that had at least been friendly, and was empowering

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<v Speaker 14>the states that hadn't, like Georgia, to restrict access even further.

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<v Speaker 17>This is talk of the nation. I'm neil Conan in Washington.

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<v Speaker 17>Members of Congress have also taken up the issue. In February,

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<v Speaker 17>a provision known as real ID passed in the House

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<v Speaker 17>of Representatives. It would impose federal standards on driver's licenses

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<v Speaker 17>and also make it harder for emigrats to seek asylum.

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<v Speaker 14>Real ideas are simply identifications that have passed a quote

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<v Speaker 14>higher level of security. People's data has been checked against

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<v Speaker 14>a number of federal databases to house information about the applicants.

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<v Speaker 14>The legislation made it so that the real ideas would

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<v Speaker 14>eventually become mandatory for people who want to access federal facilities,

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 14>board federally regulated airplanes, and enter nuclear power plants. Any

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 14>state that did not comply with the minimum regulations could

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 14>still provide drivers' licenses to their residents, but by a

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 14>set period of time when the law would go into effect,

0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 14>those citizens would be blocked from accessing these federal really

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 14>controlled areas. Of course, the one most people cared about

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<v Speaker 14>was the ability to fly. I mean, imagine you show

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<v Speaker 14>up at the airport to spend Christmas with your family,

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<v Speaker 14>or maybe to attend the friend's wedding in another state,

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<v Speaker 14>and a tsagent tells you, oh, well, your driver's license

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<v Speaker 14>is from New York, so you're not allowed to fly.

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<v Speaker 14>This was really what forced all fifty states to start

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<v Speaker 14>complying with real Idea legislation. But it was hard and expensive.

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<v Speaker 14>Although there was a lot of pushback from states who

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 14>did not want the federal government to shape their laws,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 14>changes were eminent, and back home, something else was happening.

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<v Speaker 14>At the same time.

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<v Speaker 12>There were tons of police cars, like thirty or forty

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<v Speaker 12>police cars in a very in the street, and then

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<v Speaker 12>big bus is picking up people from their cars and

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<v Speaker 12>taking them into the bus to take them to the prism.

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<v Speaker 12>And that was just because it didn't have a drivers license.

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<v Speaker 14>In two thousand and nine, the year after my mom

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<v Speaker 14>began driving un licensed, there was a new boogeyman. It

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 14>was no longer just about dodging police cruisers that hit

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<v Speaker 14>behind bushes or staked out drivers at the bottom of hills.

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<v Speaker 14>It was the beginning of the roadblocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the roadblocks?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, all the time, all the time. That was crazy.

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<v Speaker 12>That time was so difficult. But the good thing that

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<v Speaker 12>I remember is that our people got organized. They we

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<v Speaker 12>text each other and we knew that there was a

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<v Speaker 12>roadblock over that area. So I called to my husband

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<v Speaker 12>and say, hey, don't go to that street because there

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<v Speaker 12>is a road block.

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<v Speaker 14>Two eighty seven G it was a new program, a

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<v Speaker 14>collaboration between local police department and ICE. Anyone who was

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 14>arrested and booked into a local jail that participated in

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 14>the program would have their legal status checked immediately. If

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 14>they were undocumented, they would be referred to ICE, and

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 14>if ICE confirmed they were not here legally, they could

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 14>be put into deportation proceedings. In Winnett County, where I

0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 14>grew up, the local sheriff joined to eighty seven G.

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 14>It effectively granted his deputies the power of ICE agents.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.959
<v Speaker 14>The county jail could detain immigrants on federal retainers.

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<v Speaker 18>A message that's being sent loud and clear in Gwinnette County.

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 18>If you are in the country illegally and you commit

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 18>a crime, you could be deported. The program called two

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<v Speaker 18>eighty seven G was just approved and it has people

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 18>on both sides of the immigration debate sounding off.

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<v Speaker 14>So close was that partnership that the Winnette County Detention

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 14>Center allowed ICE agents to install an office in there.

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 14>That meant every second counted when a loved one was arrested.

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Everyone mobilized.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 14>You had to get the money immediately, have someone with

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 14>a legal idea on call who could show up at

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 14>the jail and bond the person out as quickly as possible.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 14>If you took too long, maybe because you didn't have

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 14>thousands of dollars disposal, it could be too late. A

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 14>traffic infraction like driving on unexpired license could and often.

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Did get undocumented.

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 14>People reported in fact well ICE holds and when I

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 14>peaked in twenty twelve, a Mother Jones investigation found that

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 14>still between twenty seventeen and July twenty nineteen, the primary

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 14>charge for nearly half of the people held for ICE

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 14>at the Winnett County Jail was for driving without a

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 14>license or another minor traffic violation.

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<v Speaker 12>So it's much scary because we feel that it was

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 12>never ending, never ending. It was any time close to

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 12>where you were going to sleep, and then you received

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 12>the message saying there is a blockage in such or

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 12>that street, and I remember we just went to work,

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 12>and we didn't go to the store unless you really

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 12>need it, because the most what you wanted to get

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 12>is just get hold, get home.

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<v Speaker 14>It was so prevalent that eventually everyone in my household

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 14>had been bought at Winna County Jail at least once.

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 14>I remember the first time you ever got pulled over,

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 14>and I remember I cried.

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<v Speaker 12>No, no, that was awful. That was an awful day.

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 12>That day was a morning that I went. I used

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 12>to go to one client that I cleaned her house,

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 12>but she was always asking me to iron for her.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 12>And I remember I was passing next to the lake

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 12>and I was looking at the lake, and I said,

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 12>what such a beautiful morning. And when I looked, I

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 12>saw police stopping me because I was really speeding. I

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 12>didn't realize it was twenty five that area and I

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 12>was thirty. They told me, well, I'm sorry, ma'am. Put

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 12>your hands behind and I felt so bad at that moment.

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 14>We were lucky though all of us were out in time,

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 14>but not everyone in our community could say that.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 19>This month, human rights groups came together to urge Georgia

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 19>counties to end the program.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 20>Two eighty seven G serves our deportation pipeline where thousands

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 20>of immigrants and refugees are being deported, breaking families apart.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 19>And opponents of twoity seven GC the agreement causes mistrust

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.800
<v Speaker 19>between the community and local law enforcement.

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 14>Real ID, which began as a way to tighten ID laws,

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 14>once coupled with other policies, actually opened the path for

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:34.720
<v Speaker 14>increased immigration enforcement and deportations. In many places. It turned

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 14>people into criminals. Moms, dads deals. Now they all had records,

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 14>their names were in the system. They'd all been in

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 14>a cell. Any brush with the government was dangerous. I

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 14>mean that was the first thing I learned when we

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 14>came to the US. LAYLO, don't call attention to yourself.

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 14>But real ID pushed into the light many undocumented people

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 14>who otherwise would have never had contact with police or DHS.

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 14>It stopped people from applying for jobs, going to school,

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 14>accessing needed resources, you name it. Something as innocuous as

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 14>calling the police because you witnessed the crime became scary.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 14>Any contact with police could change your life. It made

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:23.840
<v Speaker 14>everyone unsafe. Nearly a decade after September eleven, the counseling

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.280
<v Speaker 14>of driver's licenses and the decision of local police departments

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.239
<v Speaker 14>across the country to participate in two eighty seven g

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 14>cost a perfect storm, and communities like mine, people who

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 14>lost their ability to work were at the same time

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 14>faced with a number of growing raids and roadblocks. Often

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 14>on the way home from work, we would get phone calls.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 14>Police said it was all about public safety, but everyone

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 14>knew they were out looking for us. It became like

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 14>a game of chicken with really high stakes. That anxiety,

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 14>in many ways became a base. It's just how things were.

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 14>The fear never really goes away, It just dolls. See,

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 14>you get choosed to the situation.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 12>You feel that everything is in ormal and until something

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 12>bad happens, and then is when it comes the end

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 12>of the world for the family.

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 14>My older brother, after a number of arrests, unexhausted from

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 14>the constant risk, decided to go back to Argentina in

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 14>twenty fourteen. My mom, who had experienced the pain of

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 14>being away from her parents for over a decade, now

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 14>had to learn to be away from her son and

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 14>her only grandkids. My brother couldn't return to the US,

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.760
<v Speaker 14>my mom couldn't go to Argentina. It was yet another

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 14>separation in our family. If nine to eleven was an

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 14>atomic bomb that caused so much pain and destruction on impact,

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 14>what came after was the radiation that infested but couldn't

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 14>be seen, the deadly repercussions that hit, the unseen, the law,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 14>the persecution, the laws. There was no way to know

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 14>when it would end, if it would end. Each day

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 14>the waves kept coming, and most of us just try

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 14>to stay afloat when it has two claims to fame.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 14>I always tell people that when they ask me where

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 14>I'm from, it's where the migos are from. And for

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 14>years it was the county with the most two eighty

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 14>seven g iceholds in the nation. It's been sixteen years

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 14>and the national implementation of real ID has repeatedly been delayed,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 14>the last time in twenty twenty due to the COVID

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 14>nineteen pandemic, but it is said to finally go into

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 14>effect in twenty twenty three. If you've flown recently, you've

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 14>seen the signs. They're everywhere at the airport. At the

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 14>same time, more states than ever now allow undocumented residents

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.760
<v Speaker 14>to apply for driver's licenses. The number is now sixteen

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 14>That includes California, New York, Colorado, and most recently Virginia.

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 14>These states have found a way to comply with real

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 14>ID by granting documents that cannot be used for federal

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 14>ID purposes, meaning once real ID finally goes into effect,

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 14>undocumented people will not be able to use their identification

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 14>to do things like travel by plane, but they will

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 14>still be able to drive safely in their state. Whether

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 14>these changes this legislation, this persecution was ever needed, Whether

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 14>it aided safety is up for debate. Two decades later,

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 14>states are still learning that it's better for public safety

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 14>to allow undocumented people to drive legally. In other places,

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 14>things move a little slower.

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 21>Hundreds of people from all walks of life, including young children,

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 21>came out to downtown Atlanta to protest and denounce what

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 21>they're calling were raids on the immigrant community over the

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 21>last few weeks.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 14>Georgia still does not grant licenses to people without legal status.

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 14>Driving without a permit in the state can land you

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 14>in jail for up to a year. In twenty twenty,

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 14>Sheriff Butch Conway decided not to run for re election

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 14>after nearly two decades at the helm of the Winnett

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 14>County Sheriff's office. Sheriff Conway's protege was defeated by an

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 14>opponent who ran on an anti two to eighty seven

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 14>g platform. That same year, Whenett ranked fourth in the

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 14>entire country for the number of ice detainer requests. On

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:36.240
<v Speaker 14>January first, twenty twenty one, newly elected Sheriff Cable Taylor

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 14>ended when it's two to eighty seven g contract with

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 14>ICE after more than a decade. Back in my home,

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 14>we don't worry about that little plastic rectangle a driver's

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 14>license that so affected our life at one point, at

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 14>least not as much anymore. In twenty seventeen, I became

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 14>a US citizen, and the following year I was able

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.399
<v Speaker 14>to petition for my mom. We drive in peace now,

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 14>but the repercussions in our family are permanent. My brother's gone,

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 14>my stepfather is at risk. At any time, the phone

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 14>could ring and we'll need to be ready to rush

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 14>to the local jail to help a relative or a friend.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 14>People can and are still persecuted for their legal status,

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.240
<v Speaker 14>and often it still starts with a driver's license.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 12>But I think that that make us more humans, is

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 12>like you become more empathetic to the situations of the

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 12>people around you. If you see a neighbor or a

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 12>friend that you know doesn't have a driver's license, you

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 12>always tell them call me if you need a drive.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 12>Because now I am on the other side, and I

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 12>remember when you first started. I remember you also running

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.720
<v Speaker 12>behind your friends because some with your friends went to prison,

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 12>and and there you went to take them out, and

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 12>the same thing happened to us.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 14>That's what happens in our community. The system that could

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 14>append the lives of our loved ones never rest, and

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 14>that means neither do the rest of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, the immigration bill interrupted by

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>September eleventh. Two decades later, thousands of undocumented immigrants and

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>advocates continue to fight to keep it alive. That's after

0:41:38.680 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the break. Stay with us, Yes, hey, we're back. The

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>attacks on September eleventh brought a promising immigration bill that

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 1>was making its way through Congress to a total and

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 1>sudden halt. Its failure to pass in two thousand and

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>one would then define the next twenty years of immigration

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>activism for many in the country. Our producer of Victoria

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Estrada is going to look at that story and takes

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it from here.

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<v Speaker 22>In the summer of two thousand and one, Daniel Sueta

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.799
<v Speaker 22>had just graduated from high school. She wanted to go

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:59.959
<v Speaker 22>to college, but there was one problem. Dania was undocumented.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>My counselor had basically told me that if I didn't

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of money saved up that and I

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't have residency or citizenship or like an international student permit.

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 2>My only option was to go to Mexico.

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 22>When Dania was ten years old, she and her family

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.399
<v Speaker 22>entered the US with tourist visas, but stayed and made

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 22>a life in Chicago. Dania had good grades in high

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 22>school was captain of the swim team, but her academic

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 22>and sports skills would be of little help and documented

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 22>she not only didn't have access to most grants her

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 22>scholarships to help pay for college, she was required to

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 22>pay out of state prohibited rates.

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 2>And so I actually ended up applying as an international

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 2>student to as several colleges, which then did require me

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to travel abroad to go to Mexico, apply in the

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>US Embassy as an international student, but her.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 22>Student visa was denied and Dania was suddenly trapped outside

0:43:57.360 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 22>the United States. Her family started to organize to bring

0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:05.240
<v Speaker 22>her back. They held rallies, friends wrote letters of support

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 22>on her behalf, and they even reached out to Illinois

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 22>Senator Dick Durbin. At the time, Durbin and Orrin Hatch,

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 22>a fellow Republican from Utah were drafting a piece of

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.760
<v Speaker 22>legislation that could help other students in similar situations.

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was this idea that undocumented students who had

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>graduated in the US didn't really have a path forward.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 22>The bill had a very narrow scope. It would grant

0:44:29.920 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 22>legal residency to undocumented high school graduates who had entered

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 22>the US as children. It just had a few requirements.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 22>Applicants needed to have been in the country for at

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 22>least five years, have no criminal record that might make

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 22>them inadmissible or deportable, and be a quote person of

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 22>good moral character. The Development Relief and Education for Alien Minors,

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 22>or DREAM Act, was considered to have wide bipartisan support,

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 22>since the senators who spawned were both one of the

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 22>most conservative and one of the most liberal in the Senate.

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 22>Reports at the time said that there were anywhere from

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 22>fifty thousand to seventy five thousand children graduating from high

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 22>school every year with no legal status. That meant up

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 22>to seventy five thousand students for whom higher education was

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 22>virtually denied.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 2>That was the first time that I saw that statistic

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 2>next to my name and sort of understood that there

0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 2>was a bigger problem than just me and my family

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>who was scared right.

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 22>More recent reports showed that the number of undocumented high

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 22>school graduates today is closer to one hundred thousand a year.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 22>With the direct help of Senator Durbin, Dana was able

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 22>to get a humanitarian visa and return to the States.

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 22>Then the Senator's office asked her to be part of

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 22>the campaign to support the one legislation that could completely

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 22>change her life. By that point, Dania had come out

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 22>publicly about her undocumented status, so she spoke about her

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 22>personal story, but also part of.

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.800
<v Speaker 2>My speech was saying, like there must be something wrong

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 2>if sixty thousand and undocumented students graduate every year and

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>like don't have a chance to go to school. Like

0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't about even me anymore. It was like if

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>it's me and sixty thousand other people, like something else

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.040
<v Speaker 2>is going on that we're not resolving.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 22>So when they asked her to, Dania didn't hesitate to

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 22>testify before the Senate a few weeks later.

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I think they saw it as a good example of

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, someone who like fit the narrative, you know,

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>had good grades. As president of the swim team, had

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>had to go to Mexico to figure out this out,

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and like was actually still trying to figure out where

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 2>to go to school.

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 22>Ter Sali, another undocumented high school graduate from Chicago who

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 22>had originally inspired the Dream Act, was also set to testify.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 22>The hearing was scheduled for September twelfth, two thousand and one.

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 22>Dania was supposed to fly to d See the day before.

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 22>Spirits were high.

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>On September eleventh. I remember I was supposed to be

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 2>out o hair in like the early afternoon. I remember

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Cladisol from Senator Durbin's staff had checked in with me.

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>She was the person that I was going to meet

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 2>at the airport. And I woke up because my grandmother,

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 2>who was at home with me, said that I had

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.439
<v Speaker 2>a call from Clarisol, And so she's the one who

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>told me that she was at the airport at the

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 2>moment and that there was something going on and that

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>she actually didn't think that we were going to be

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>able to travel to DC, and that most likely the

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 2>congressional hearing was going to be postponed. And that's when

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I like literally like woke up and turned on the

0:47:56.400 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 2>TV and started seeing the images of the first plane.

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 4>It's a fifty two.

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 7>Here in New York, we understand that there has been

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 7>a plane crash on the southern tip of Manhattan.

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 4>You're looking at the World Trade.

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I just stayed at home and watched the news. I,

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:17.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, like everyone, I didn't know what was happening.

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 2>I remember like all the planes were grounded, and I

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>remember paying attention to that because I still had a

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>little bit of hope that I was going to travel

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 2>to DC. So we were just waiting to see when

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the planes would be like unngrounded or like with that,

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 2>when that would be lifted. So there was that sense

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.919
<v Speaker 2>of like postponement, that we're just like waiting for things

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to get back to normal.

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 22>Daniel would later realize that, after all, the hearing wasn't

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 22>going to happen that week or that year. Her flight

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 22>was never rescheduled, nor her testimony in support of the

0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 22>Dream Act. Well, the Dream Act kept coming back in

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 22>the next years. The country had forever changed, and so

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 22>had the debate around the bill. When it was reintroduced

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 22>in two thousand and three, it had new requirements. Applicants

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 22>had to have entered the US before their sixteenth birthday.

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.360
<v Speaker 22>There was no vote on the bill that year either

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 22>and in the next legislature it was changed again, this

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 22>time to adjust the status of the potential beneficiaries from

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 22>permanent residents to conditional permanent residents. The new version of

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 22>the bill didn't make it to a vote on the floor.

0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 22>In two thousand and seven, the Dream Act was introduced

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 22>yet again, this time with the added requirement that applicants

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 22>needed to be under thirty years old. Finally, a vote

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 22>was scheduled, but the Bush White House came out against

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 22>the bill, saying that it created loopholes that would legalize

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:59.400
<v Speaker 22>undocumented immigrants convicted of multiple misdemeanors and even felonies. Instead,

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.960
<v Speaker 22>the Iministration argued that what was needed was comprehensive immigration

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:09.359
<v Speaker 22>reform that included strong border and interior enforcement. The bill

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 22>failed by less than ten votes. Detractors said they were

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 22>not going to consider any piece of legislation that quote

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 22>rewarded immigrant lawbreakers. Still, the immigration movement was garnering national momentum.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 22>In two thousand and eight, when Barack Obama was running

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:29.799
<v Speaker 22>for president, he identified immigration reform as a priority.

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.920
<v Speaker 23>The American people need us to put an end to

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 23>the petty partisanship that passes for politics. And walking, and

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 23>they need us to enact comprehensive immigration reform once and

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 23>for all.

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.839
<v Speaker 4>They need not. We can't wait twenty years for now

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 4>to do it.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 23>We can't wait ten years for now to do it.

0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 23>We need to do it by the end of my

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 23>first term as President of the United States of America.

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 22>As we know, Obama made it to the White House,

0:50:57.640 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 22>but no reforms followed.

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.720
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's when I started getting really disappointed

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.720
<v Speaker 2>and a little bit more jaded about the politics, because

0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, sort of expected it under Bush and under

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 2>a Republican, but not so much in there a Democrat.

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 22>Dania says she developed something she calls Obama trauma.

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I remember just having a lot of hope that that

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 2>was going to impact my parents, in particular in my

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 2>own situation. Every time it was bad, like every time,

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I remember just watching him and him being like, yes,

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 2>we need immigration reform, but first, you know, we need

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>the enforcement, and but first we need to do this.

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:35.319
<v Speaker 2>And so I started getting really tired of it.

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.280
<v Speaker 22>With no immigration reform nor dreamac devailable, Dania had managed

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 22>to enter the University of Illinois at Chicago only with

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 22>a private scholarship for her first year and after that.

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 2>We had talked to some of the counselors who had,

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, sort of told us how to click on

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 2>the right boxes so that you know, I wasn't claiming

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 2>that I was a citizen, but I also wouldn't be

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 2>charged as an international student.

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 22>She began working in a radio station and after graduating,

0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 22>mentoring students as well. She continued to organize in favor

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 22>of immigrants, and in two thousand and nine something happened

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 22>that would push her activism further.

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>One of my students had gotten pulled over by mobile

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Chicago police. They had turned them over to immigration enforcement

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 2>and was actually in deportation proceedings and showed me that

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he was wearing an ankle monitor.

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:29.240
<v Speaker 22>The student was Rigo Padilla. In a matter of weeks,

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 22>Dania Rigo and Ray Wenzis, another emerging activist, founded the

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 22>Immigrant Youth Justice League to fight Rigo's deportation. On March

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 22>tenth of twenty ten, they organized the first coming out

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 22>rally for undocumented immigrants in Chicago. It was part of

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.360
<v Speaker 22>a much larger movement that was spreading quickly. In January,

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 22>four students that started the Trail of Dreams March a

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 22>fifteen hundred mile four month walk to support the Dream Act.

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 24>We started back in Miami, were going off the way

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 24>to Washington, DC to demand for President Obama to stop

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 24>the separation of families and stop the deportation of a

0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:08.919
<v Speaker 24>young students.

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:11.920
<v Speaker 22>And on May seventeenths.

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 18>Ago protesters throwing things up in downtown Tisson at this hour,

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 18>this is a live picture just outside Senator John McCain's office.

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 22>Dania and four other undocumented youths held a sit in

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.759
<v Speaker 22>at the Tucson offices. It's Senator John McCain urging him

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 22>to support the Dream Act.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 6>I saw this photo going around where five one documented

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 6>students had done a sit in at McCain's office.

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 22>This is Julio Salgado.

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 4>I am an artist.

0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm an artist who happens to be undocumented and queer.

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 22>He was shocked when he saw what Dania and the

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 22>others were daring to do.

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.280
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, oh my god, what are they doing.

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 6>They're going to get arrested, They're going to get deported.

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.920
<v Speaker 22>A few years earlier, Juliam who's from California, had his

0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 22>own start and advocacy, creating a support room for undocumented

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 22>students in college.

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 6>I remember the you know, when they have like a

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:08.240
<v Speaker 6>welcoming week for students, and we set up our table

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 6>and we were very strategic and being like, okay, we

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.359
<v Speaker 6>should put that we are a group for AB five

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 6>forty students, and other AB five forty students will know

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 6>what that means, right.

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.799
<v Speaker 22>AB five forty was a state law that went into

0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 22>effect about a month after nine to eleven and let

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 22>undocumented students pay in state tuition at California's public colleges

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:33.720
<v Speaker 22>and universities. It was a progressive policy that allowed Julio

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 22>and many others to continue their education. Only students in

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:41.279
<v Speaker 22>nine other states with similar laws had the privilege at

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:41.720
<v Speaker 22>the time.

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 4>But it was super secretive.

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 6>It wasn't there was no undocumented, unafraid, none of that.

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 6>It was like, you know, at that time, I was

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm from a generation of undocumented and very.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 22>Afraid Matanias and others. Activism embold in him.

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 6>I was like, all right, well, I'm not an organizer,

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:01.799
<v Speaker 6>you know, I don't do that, but I'm like, what

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:05.720
<v Speaker 6>can I do to add to this movement?

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 9>Right?

0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 4>And so you know, like I started making images.

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.520
<v Speaker 22>One of the first images he produced was a figure

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 22>with a graduating cap and gown being taken away by

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 22>two police officers as she shouts I exist.

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:23.440
<v Speaker 6>For me, it was very important to document those specific

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:29.360
<v Speaker 6>interventions from undocumented immigrants because I felt that it was

0:55:29.400 --> 0:55:32.279
<v Speaker 6>a historic moment, and I was like, we need to

0:55:32.280 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 6>make sure that this gets documented and it gets documented

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 6>by us.

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 22>For so long they had lived trying to go unnoticed.

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 22>But that was over. Other acts of civil disobedience followed.

0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 22>Undocumented activists held sit ins in Washington, DC and hunger

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:52.879
<v Speaker 22>strikes in Los Angeles. On the sumber eighteenth of twenty ten,

0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:55.840
<v Speaker 22>the House of Representatives passed a new version of the

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:59.440
<v Speaker 22>Dream Act. This time, the bills requirement had extended to

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:03.840
<v Speaker 22>include also a medical examination and the background check. Just

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:07.160
<v Speaker 22>before the vote, Senator Lindsey Graham took to the floor

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:09.240
<v Speaker 22>to say to those who had come to his office

0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 22>to protest that they were wasting their time.

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:15.040
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to pass the Dream Act or any

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>other legalization program until we secure our borders.

0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 22>Thirty six Republicans and five Democrats voted against the bill,

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 22>with only fifty five votes in favor, it didn't have

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:31.440
<v Speaker 22>a filibuster proof majority. After coming so close and seeing

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.959
<v Speaker 22>it fell yet again, Dania felt depleted at this point.

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I was also kind of used to

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 2>things like this happening, Like Yeah, there was definitely like

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.120
<v Speaker 2>a feeling of like, well, of course, like, of course

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:46.280
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen again.

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 22>The thing was the argument Republicans had used against the

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.800
<v Speaker 22>Dream Act that no immigration bill could be passed until

0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:58.479
<v Speaker 22>borders were secure had also been used by Democrats trying

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.319
<v Speaker 22>to push for immigration reform. In the summer of two

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 22>thousand and nine, Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer outlined the framework

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 22>for immigration reform that included this principle.

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 13>Any immigration solution must recognize that we must do as

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.760
<v Speaker 13>much as we can to gain control of our borders

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 13>as soon as possible.

0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 22>Other points included a biometric based employment verification system and

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:27.920
<v Speaker 22>having all undocumented immigrants in the country register and submit

0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:32.080
<v Speaker 22>to a quote rigorous process to earn their path to

0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 22>citizenship or else phase deportation. Although Schumer did vote in

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 22>favor of the twenty ten Dream Act, the principles he

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:44.160
<v Speaker 22>laid out for immigration reform just a year before had

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:46.919
<v Speaker 22>the same basis as of those who objected to the bill,

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 22>that immigrants were guilty and to prove it innocent. After

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.919
<v Speaker 22>that narrow loss, the bill would continue to go through

0:57:56.000 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 22>different versions, winning and losing support as politics changed. One

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 22>of its original sponsors in two thousand and one did

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:07.120
<v Speaker 22>not vote for the Dream Act in twenty ten, and

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 22>Senator Lindsey Graham, who spoke against it in twenty ten,

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 22>would later become a co sponsor of the Dream Act.

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 6>At every single cycle of elections, we were becoming a

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 6>political game piece, right Like, I have my dreamer here,

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 6>who's going to share their story?

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 4>And you start You're like, I don't believe you anymore.

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 22>In the summer of twenty twelve, the last year of

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 22>his first term and seeking reelection, President Obama made an announcement.

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 8>This morning, Secretary of Napoloitano announced new actions my administration

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 8>will take to mend our nation's immigration policy to make

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 8>it more fair, more efficient, and more just, specifically for

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<v Speaker 8>certain young people sometimes called dreamers.

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<v Speaker 22>With no immigration reform, after four years in the White House,

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<v Speaker 22>Obama used his executive power to create the Deferred Action

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<v Speaker 22>for Childhood Arrivals or DACA. The policy allowed undocumented immigrants

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<v Speaker 22>who had been brought to the US as children to

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<v Speaker 22>request deferred action from deportation and get a work permit.

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<v Speaker 22>They needed a record free of Belanese or serious misdemeanors,

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<v Speaker 22>and they had to reapply to the program every two years.

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<v Speaker 22>DACA didn't offer a path to citizenship. It just stopped deportation.

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<v Speaker 22>It was never meant to be a long term fixed.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a bittersweet moment for a lot of us.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't the Dream Act. It didn't include our parents,

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<v Speaker 6>and I remember not wanting to apply to DACA.

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<v Speaker 22>It seemed like a defeat. But eventually he did apply

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<v Speaker 22>and got into the program. He's still a part of it.

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<v Speaker 22>When Donald Trump was elected, he tried to end the program,

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<v Speaker 22>but was blocked by the courts. Nevertheless, just a few

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<v Speaker 22>months ago, DACA was ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge

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<v Speaker 22>in Texas, and for now all new applications have been suspended.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a constant, is it going to go away?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I'm able now to legally work in this country.

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<v Speaker 6>I am very lucky to have, you know, insurance through

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<v Speaker 6>my job that could go away at any minute if

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<v Speaker 6>this shenanigans continue, right, And so it's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 6>constant like you should be thankful, but at the same time, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>here's some a little stress for you, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of ridiculous that we've been talking about passing

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<v Speaker 2>something for twenty years at this point, and that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing that's been able to move forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>that like, at the same time, it has been.

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<v Speaker 6>So fickle, and that is frustrating for somebody who's been

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<v Speaker 6>doing this for like almost twenty years. It's I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>I just met an image yesterday. I put an image

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<v Speaker 6>out that that say the DACA Youth and in the

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<v Speaker 6>bottom like ma'am, I'm thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 23>You know, Like.

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<v Speaker 22>This touched on something that Dania sees is a problem

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<v Speaker 22>with the original push for the Dream Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we wanted to make a point, like we were

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<v Speaker 2>very disciplined, because we felt like we have to shape

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<v Speaker 2>our stories in a way that fit this strategy of

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward. The bill I think over the years has

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<v Speaker 2>also become this ugly thing that in policy means that

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<v Speaker 2>like people who don't fit that narrative, including our parents,

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<v Speaker 2>get left out of any sort of negotiations or considerations.

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<v Speaker 22>They needed to be that perfect immigrant, someone innocent who

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<v Speaker 22>had been brought to the US as a child. Gaga

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<v Speaker 22>Greats never made mistakes that ended up in criminal convictions,

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<v Speaker 22>spoke English and wanted to go to college or the army.

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<v Speaker 22>Dania and other activists began to question that narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>That pains a realistic picture of anyone. I mean, I think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, first of all, there is the question of

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<v Speaker 2>the criminal justice system. Over the last several years, in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a huge like black Lead movement that has

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<v Speaker 2>exposed all of the cracks in a very mass way

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<v Speaker 2>of the criminal justice system and how it targets people

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<v Speaker 2>of color. And I think, like, if we believe that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>then by definition, whenever we exclude immigrants who have any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of criminal record from bills like the Dream Act

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<v Speaker 2>or from immigration reform, we're buying into the things that

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<v Speaker 2>the criminal justice system says.

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<v Speaker 22>That's why, in a way, the failing of the Dream

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<v Speaker 22>Act didn't quite disappoint her.

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<v Speaker 2>It also felt like a big release, like we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually have to shape our entire strategy and in some ways,

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<v Speaker 2>our entire identity around this particular bill. You know, every year,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, we had like a little theme for what

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<v Speaker 2>are coming out of the Shadows rally was going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>so like the first year was like undocumented, unafraid. The

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<v Speaker 2>second year was documented unafraid and unapologetic, and the third

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<v Speaker 2>year was after the failure of the Dream Act, and

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<v Speaker 2>the theme was I Define Myself. And it was because

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<v Speaker 2>we were coming out of like just this very rigid

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<v Speaker 2>messaging that was about our stories too, and about who

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell their stories.

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<v Speaker 1>In March of this year, the House of Representatives passed

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<v Speaker 1>the American Dream and Promise Act of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>The bill has yet to be voted on by this Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>and so here we are, twenty years later, frustrated, the

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<v Speaker 1>issue of immigration, refugees, migrants, people moving completely unresolved. What

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh did was to create a narrative that now

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<v Speaker 1>we've had to be fighting again for twenty years, that

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<v Speaker 1>somehow immigrants and refugees are a problem, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>have refugees from Afghanistan a direct result of September eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>and the actions of the United States government. The people

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States and the people of Afghanistan and

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<v Speaker 1>all migrants deserve better than this being the lesson of

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<v Speaker 1>September eleventh. This episode was produced.

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<v Speaker 20>By Alejandra Salasad, Ulieta Martinelli and Victoria Strada with help

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<v Speaker 20>was edited by Andrea Lopez Grusado and mixed by Elishiba

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<v Speaker 20>Itu and jj Krubin. The Latino USA team includes Mata

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<v Speaker 20>Loenthal Torres. Our editorial director is Fernandes Santos. Our director

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<v Speaker 20>of engineering is Stephanie Lebau. Our senior engineer is Julia Caruso.

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<v Speaker 6>Yesterday, the Vice President met with some undocumented folks and

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of weeks ago, she just told people not

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<v Speaker 6>to come here, Like what is the tea