Speaker 1: Brooking jewels. A second date update. Today's second date update
Speaker 1: is a little different from the others because the girl
Speaker 1: that's on the phone to do a second date update
Speaker 1: today has actually had three dates with the guy that
Speaker 1: she wants to call. Can that's break in the rules
Speaker 1: and come on. Normally the rule is one date and
Speaker 1: that's it, not three dates, because that's kind of more
Speaker 1: of a relationship type fan and that's not a second
Speaker 1: date update. That'd be a fourth date update. But I
Speaker 1: went ahead and I talked to the girl and she
Speaker 1: offered me a thousand dollars cash if we would do
Speaker 1: the second date update for her anyway. And you know
Speaker 1: what rules are meant to be broken sometimes, So, Kate,
Speaker 1: you will have my PayPal request in just a little while. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get it right out of You didn't know the
Speaker 1: second date update was going to cost you a thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: did you, Kate? Well, I didn't, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: hope it's worth it. I swear when you hear the story,
Speaker 1: you're gonna understand why. Okay, so your email said that
Speaker 1: you've been out on three dates with this guy and
Speaker 1: now he's just stopped calling you. Tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about him. Okay, so his name is Andrew. It
Speaker 1: sounds really cheesy, but we were doing like a volunteered
Speaker 1: charity event and we met there and we were working together,
Speaker 1: so we just had a lot of time, you know,
Speaker 1: like hang out and talk and stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: we had a connection and he asked me out on
Speaker 1: a date, and since then it's just kind of been
Speaker 1: like a whirlwind, you know what I mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: super into him and you see this going into like
Speaker 1: relationship status. Yeah, I mean obviously not like right now
Speaker 1: at this moment, because I'm I'm calling you for a reason,
Speaker 1: but no, it was definitely like it was I felt
Speaker 1: like it was headed in that direction. Yet, what did
Speaker 1: you guys do for your dates? Dates plural? So my
Speaker 1: first date, it was actually really romantic when I'm one
Speaker 1: of those dinner cruises, which I probably would have hated
Speaker 1: if it was someone that I had turned out not
Speaker 1: to be attractive to you, But we had we had
Speaker 1: so much fun. You know, like if I needed to
Speaker 1: see dropped on a boat with anyone, that would be
Speaker 1: the person that I would want to be stuf. That's
Speaker 1: actually a good idea for guys to take girls on
Speaker 1: a dinner cruise date for the first date because there's
Speaker 1: nowhere to go. Yeah, but it does say it does
Speaker 1: say that he was like really into you, because if
Speaker 1: a guy is gonna devote that much time and energy
Speaker 1: into a first date, he's obviously wanting to impress you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: screw time and energy, just cash. That's not a cheap
Speaker 1: date at all. Okay, so you went on a dinner cruise,
Speaker 1: that's cool. Would you do for your other dates? The
Speaker 1: next date, we went on one of those like wine
Speaker 1: and tasting events at a bar, which was you know,
Speaker 1: like super casual, and it was fun because there were
Speaker 1: other people there and so we got to sort of
Speaker 1: like spend more time in a group of people and
Speaker 1: see what that dynamic is like. And it was really fun.
Speaker 1: And then my third one was so sweet because I
Speaker 1: had just I was really stressed out at work and
Speaker 1: I think I had mentioned it like a couple of
Speaker 1: times in conversation, and so he books up a couple
Speaker 1: of massage. What that's like relationship status stuck. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: we definitely like took our relationship to the next level
Speaker 1: after that, and I'm you know, like starting to feel
Speaker 1: emotionally connected to him. And putting in you know, feelings
Speaker 1: and effort and time, and since then it has been
Speaker 1: complete radio silence. That's weird. Time to put that much
Speaker 1: effort into all those dates, I know. And by effort
Speaker 1: you still mean money, don't you? Pretty much? But I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't buy somebody a couple's massage if you don't
Speaker 1: care about absolutely No. I mean, I wouldn't spend that
Speaker 1: much money, and I can't. I just can't believe he's
Speaker 1: like spent that much money for just a hook up
Speaker 1: like that seems laid a lot of work. That was
Speaker 1: the first night you guys hooked up after the couple's massage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he stopped calling you after the first night that
Speaker 1: you hooked up. Yes, I know, I know, But the
Speaker 1: lead up is still confusing because that's you know, everyone's
Speaker 1: been in the hook up situation before, whether they like
Speaker 1: intended to or not, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: it usually doesn't have that much build up. Usually someone
Speaker 1: doesn't put in that much time and effort and then
Speaker 1: go completely obsecret. It sounds like he was doing all
Speaker 1: that just to get in your pants, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: Well it does if he's doing all yes, would you
Speaker 1: do that much. I wouldn't. I wouldn't know, but a
Speaker 1: lot of guys would. I mean, if he's putting in
Speaker 1: all that effort and then stops calling you the moment
Speaker 1: that you guys, hook up sounds like that's all he wanted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I also like in my head, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like wondering, was he like just getting out
Speaker 1: of a relationship and did he fixed things? Did he
Speaker 1: did he go back to see and like all of
Speaker 1: it is totally like if that were the kid. You know,
Speaker 1: life happens. I just some kind of answer, just some
Speaker 1: kind of conversation telling you what happened. That's where my
Speaker 1: mind goes to. I think, did you stay the night
Speaker 1: at his house? Yeah? What was it like in the morning?
Speaker 1: It was really nice. It wasn't like hook up, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? If you know when it's a
Speaker 1: hook up, you're a woman, you know, like you've been there,
Speaker 1: you know. No, most women don't know when it's a
Speaker 1: hook up. I'll tell you that much. Totally disagree with that. No,
Speaker 1: I disagree too. No, most don't know. That's why there's
Speaker 1: clinging women who will text you after and think that
Speaker 1: they're in a relationship when they're not. It happens all
Speaker 1: the time. Sorry. I think she's right. I think the
Speaker 1: majority of women know when to hook up is just
Speaker 1: a hook up. I completely agree. Okay, well, maybe the
Speaker 1: guy's a player and he's really good at it, and
Speaker 1: you don't know if that's what he's doing. He's really good,
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you've thought about it a ton. Then
Speaker 1: if you don't think it's just a hook up thing
Speaker 1: and he was just kind of using you, then what
Speaker 1: do you think it is. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: anything at this point. I mean, that's why, that's why
Speaker 1: I need your help. I'm really interested to see why
Speaker 1: he would stop calling you after all those elaborate dates
Speaker 1: and leaving his house. That was the last time you've
Speaker 1: talked to him. No, there've been like texts, like little
Speaker 1: texts like you know, I've been busy, Like oh, you're
Speaker 1: just suddenly so yeah, he's like scheduling cruises and massages
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, his schedule just got
Speaker 1: so packed. All right, Well we'll play a song, come
Speaker 1: back call him and get your second date up date. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, hang on looking jubil in the morning, Kate. Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: I can't even believe that you want to call this
Speaker 1: dog back. Like, seriously, girl, you need to move on
Speaker 1: to greener pastures. Okay, because he totally used you and
Speaker 1: now he's not calling you back and I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: give him the time of day. You should not be
Speaker 1: doing a second date update. You need to move the along,
Speaker 1: all right, Snap out of it. Girlfriend. Let's you and
Speaker 1: I go get some cosmos and talk about this in
Speaker 1: your mind. This is how female conversations go. Isn't it
Speaker 1: that that was my conversation with Kate about moving on? Kate?
Speaker 1: Are you about ready to call Andrew for your second
Speaker 1: date update? Well? After that, I'm feeling really inspired. The
Speaker 1: reason that I said that is Kate actually wants to
Speaker 1: call a guy that she has gone out on three
Speaker 1: dates with. They've all been pretty elaborate. The last one
Speaker 1: was a couple's massage. It was like a dinner cruise
Speaker 1: and stuff in there. Anyway, after they hooked up. After
Speaker 1: the third date, he stopped calling her, hasn't responded to anything.
Speaker 1: So my first thought is that he just used her
Speaker 1: and just wanted to hook up with her, and now
Speaker 1: he's not calling her at all. That's why he's a
Speaker 1: dog girl, Kate, What if that is the reason, Are
Speaker 1: you just gonna let him have it? I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: really passed. Yeah, I'm gonna die this phone number right
Speaker 1: now and see we're gonna on the phone. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm dialing the phone number. Good. Hello, Hi, I was
Speaker 1: looking for Andrew. Yeah, let's to see Andrew. How are you.
Speaker 1: This is Jewil from brook and Jewil in the Morning. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm calling you because we recently got an email about
Speaker 1: you from one of our listeners. I didn't submit for
Speaker 1: any contest or anything. Guys, Yeah, no, I know. This
Speaker 1: is not about a contest. Actually, I just need a
Speaker 1: few minutes of your time in regards to in regards
Speaker 1: to a date that you went on, actually a few
Speaker 1: dates that you went on. What Yeah, we do a
Speaker 1: segment on our show. It's called the second Date Update.
Speaker 1: You recently took a girl named Kate out. She told
Speaker 1: us a little bit about your dates. They were all
Speaker 1: very elaborate and very romantic. But now you're not calling
Speaker 1: her back, and she's very confused. I'm just not I'm
Speaker 1: not sure to say. Well, you could start by telling
Speaker 1: us why you would blow her off after three dates.
Speaker 1: It's it's not as simple as that. Okay. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to sound confrontational with you like it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I just want to know what happened, And more than anything,
Speaker 1: she wants to know what happened because you guys went
Speaker 1: out on so many dates and she said that they
Speaker 1: were all pretty romantic, and you seem like you guys
Speaker 1: really liked each other. Just a weird situation. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to it's it's been in my head and I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to figure this stuff out. Does that mean that
Speaker 1: you are actually maybe in a relationship with somebody else? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: certainly not No. Okay, I wish it was that simple.
Speaker 1: It's it's more complicated than that. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question, just an easy question to answer. Did you
Speaker 1: like Kate? Yes? Very much? So you did? I didn't
Speaker 1: still do? Okay, so you still do? Well? Then why
Speaker 1: not offer her the respect of letting her know why
Speaker 1: you're not calling her back? Well, I just I accepted
Speaker 1: a job offer in Germany that I just I couldn't
Speaker 1: turn it down. You what, I leaven a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks actually for Germany. WHOA, and that's why you're not
Speaker 1: calling her back? Well, I feel strongly for us. Don't
Speaker 1: know how to tell her, you know, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say to her. I just
Speaker 1: I just figured the easiest thing would be just to,
Speaker 1: you know, disappear, fade away. Are you disappear? That's like
Speaker 1: the coward way out. You owe it to her to
Speaker 1: talk to her about what's going on. Like I said,
Speaker 1: this is not an easy situation. I'm I'm struggling as
Speaker 1: far as how to deal with this and what to do.
Speaker 1: Why are you struggling so much with I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys have been out on three days. It's not like
Speaker 1: you've been dating for months and months and months and
Speaker 1: you're leaving. Why not just call her and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm moving. Sorry, we can't see each other anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I really like her a lot. But okay,
Speaker 1: so you see a future with her if if you
Speaker 1: were going to stay here and Germany wasn't in the picture,
Speaker 1: there's no question in your mind that you guys would
Speaker 1: continue this if I was going to stay here, definitely,
Speaker 1: no question in my mind. But now that the reality
Speaker 1: is Germany, there's just no chance because you know I'm moving.
Speaker 1: You guys could maybe try a long distance thing. That's
Speaker 1: not fair for me to ask her to do something
Speaker 1: like that. You know she's she's super sweets gorgeous. That's
Speaker 1: not yeah, but how do you know? You don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're putting your feelings on her, like you
Speaker 1: don't know how she would react to. I am putting
Speaker 1: her needs first. She didn't deserve to be in a
Speaker 1: long distance relationship like that with someone. She deserves someone's
Speaker 1: going to be there with her, contributing to her life.
Speaker 1: I'm putting her needs way above mine. I still know
Speaker 1: what to say. It sounds like you really like her
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, yeah, I do. Man, that sucks. I honestly,
Speaker 1: if I were in your position, that would be hard
Speaker 1: to meet somebody that you're I mean, I guess it
Speaker 1: sounds like you're falling for and then you're like, man,
Speaker 1: now I gotta move. Yeah, it sucks, but some consolation
Speaker 1: German chicks can be kind of hot. Okay, okay, that's
Speaker 1: not where we're going in the making more money, obviously.
Speaker 1: Can I ask one question though, did you know that
Speaker 1: you were going to Germany before that last couple's massage,
Speaker 1: slept together night. No, no, no. In fact, this is
Speaker 1: from a previous situation I had to develop over the
Speaker 1: course of three or four months, so I thought that
Speaker 1: the opportunity had kind of fizzled out. But it turns
Speaker 1: out it was just taking a little bit more time
Speaker 1: and then they may be an offer. I just had
Speaker 1: to have to jump on this. Wow. I'm just really
Speaker 1: excited about this Germany thing. It's it's the dream job
Speaker 1: I've always always wanted. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I could be missing out and not
Speaker 1: being able to share something like that with someone like her. Well,
Speaker 1: then why not just talk to her about it? I agree.
Speaker 1: I know it's early on in your relationship, but why
Speaker 1: not just talk to her? Man Easier said than done. Guys,
Speaker 1: not really, because she's actually on the line listening. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I said, she's on the other line and listening to
Speaker 1: this conversation and wants to talk to you take on
Speaker 1: the phone. Yes she is. Yeah, him, I don't really
Speaker 1: know that. This is a lot. You've been on the
Speaker 1: phone the whole time, the whole time. I'm I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I I'm sorry I stopped calling you. I just it
Speaker 1: was the only way that I saw to handle this.
Speaker 1: It's okay, I'm um, I don't really know what I
Speaker 1: would have what I would have done in the situation either.
Speaker 1: I just I just I wish you would have told me.
Speaker 1: But what you don't even like mentioned that you applied,
Speaker 1: I know, you just like I didn't even know they
Speaker 1: youn't even like applied, you know, like you didn't even
Speaker 1: that wasn't mentioned. Just see, it's in regular conversation, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it was if so, it's like
Speaker 1: really out of left field. Well, yeah, I honestly I
Speaker 1: thought that that I thought that that prospect had kind
Speaker 1: of just fizzled out long, you know, long before I
Speaker 1: even met you. So it just kind of popped out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Again. It just really sucks because I like
Speaker 1: have really, I mean, I I have strong feelings for you.
Speaker 1: I have strong feelings for you too. It's just not
Speaker 1: fair for you. It's not it's not fair for us.
Speaker 1: You know, life is just not on our side, it seems, um, Well, Andrew,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe life is on your side and that's why
Speaker 1: you guys are being connected in a second date update
Speaker 1: to talk about it, I guess, I mean I think
Speaker 1: about you every day and I want you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: the long distance relationship is really really hard, and it's
Speaker 1: not fair me to even apply something like that, even
Speaker 1: asked that it's only been three dates, but you know,
Speaker 1: I can't stop thinking about you. So my heart says,
Speaker 1: something in my mind says something different, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just gonna ask for you. Would you
Speaker 1: do a long distance relationship? I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody's going to step in and ask her what her
Speaker 1: opinion is that whole matter. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't know because it's
Speaker 1: not it's not really being put on the table. It's
Speaker 1: not like a real question, So I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's also it's so soon and it's so new, and
Speaker 1: in general, would I would I do along distance relationship?
Speaker 1: Like in general in life? What I consider it? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would, but it's not really it's not really what's
Speaker 1: being asked now. Well, the simple fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: you know, long distance relationships suck. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is really hard. I mean, my heart says, something
Speaker 1: in my mind says something different. You know, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that I just need to sever this, cut this off,
Speaker 1: but I can't stop thinking about you. So I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like I need to ask you to go with me. No,
Speaker 1: I know that's crazy. I shouldn't have even said that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I feel like I just like a phone.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't want me to go with I mean,
Speaker 1: we've been on three days. You can't, it's not that's
Speaker 1: not like a real Is that a real question? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: words in your mouth, Andrew, but I don't think you
Speaker 1: were actually asking or to go with you. I think
Speaker 1: you were saying that's the way you feel, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure at this point this phone calls.
Speaker 1: Really it's even more confusing now. It seems like but
Speaker 1: it sounds like to me that if she would say yes,
Speaker 1: that that is exactly what you're asking, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to ask her that. You know, that's that's just a
Speaker 1: huge bombshell to drop on somebody. Know, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure to put on her. Let's let's play a game, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Let's put this relationship ship seven months down the road.
Speaker 1: If you guys have been dating for seven months, would
Speaker 1: you ask her to go with you to Germany? Yes? Wow, Kate,
Speaker 1: what do you think about that? If you were dating
Speaker 1: seven months, would you go? This is like, ah, like
Speaker 1: anypathetical situation. I mean, if if we have been dating
Speaker 1: in the same way that it's been, if we just
Speaker 1: continued down the same path that we started, I don't
Speaker 1: see why I wouldn't consider it. You guys, have a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks or whatever till you leave. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could bond, You could spend every day together. You
Speaker 1: could see how it goes up until then, and then
Speaker 1: maybe in six months you could come join you you
Speaker 1: got it all figured out by this whole thing is
Speaker 1: It's just crazy. No, So let's just step back and
Speaker 1: let Kate process this. Well, how about you guys process together.
Speaker 1: Would you like to go out in a second, well
Speaker 1: fourth date with Kate? We will pay for you guys
Speaker 1: to go out again, at least before you leave. You
Speaker 1: want to go? I mean, yeah, yes, yes, all right,
Speaker 1: Well keep us keep us updated on what happens. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll try all right, and until you leave, Andrew,
Speaker 1: I want you guys to process as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Just keep processing every night until he's got a text
Speaker 1: in at seven eight, five nine two that says, O MG,
Speaker 1: I need them to get married. I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: I am right there with you. Brook and Jewel in
Speaker 1: the morning talking about today's second date update. This girl
Speaker 1: named Kate wanted to call a dude name Andrew. They
Speaker 1: have actually gone out on a few dates, so technically
Speaker 1: it wasn't a first date. And then she's not getting
Speaker 1: a call back. They'd gone out a few times, he
Speaker 1: stops calling her back, and of course she was wondering why.
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, but we got him on the
Speaker 1: phone and it turns out that he actually really liked
Speaker 1: her a lot. They both like each other a lot.
Speaker 1: But he got a job offer in Germany and it's
Speaker 1: like his dream job. So he's like, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be leaving. So it's the point of continuing this. It's
Speaker 1: just gonna be bad for both of us. I can't
Speaker 1: ask her to do a long distance thing. Three dates
Speaker 1: in and then he was like, well, I mean maybe
Speaker 1: you could move with me in like seven months or
Speaker 1: something if we continue the relationship. It's still alive people,
Speaker 1: and she said that she would be willing to think
Speaker 1: about it because they both like each other now, so
Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna work on things and talk about
Speaker 1: it and figure out where their relationship is headed and
Speaker 1: if they can make it work. From Germany. But everybody
Speaker 1: texting in at seven eight five nine two is just
Speaker 1: in love with today's new sweetheart couple. Do you know why?
Speaker 1: Because people love love and I love them for that.
Speaker 1: It really makes me so happy. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: want this girl to regret, right, I mean, even if
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out, at least you tried. And then
Speaker 1: you know. Of course people are texting in seven eight
Speaker 1: five nine two saying they're crying in their car for
Speaker 1: these guys. They're gonna be so disappointed if these two
Speaker 1: get together and they're like, well I went on on
Speaker 1: her fourth day and oh man, like Germany. Two mus
Speaker 1: later he cheated on. Yeah, the whole thing is just
Speaker 1: screwed up. Now, thanks a lot for doing that second
Speaker 1: date update and having us go out again and planning
Speaker 1: our future because my life is wrecked. I can't get
Speaker 1: back from Germany now. I don't have enough money because
Speaker 1: I moved out for this dude. So it can either
Speaker 1: go really well or really bad we'll try to keep
Speaker 1: you updated on that. Every once in a while, we'll
Speaker 1: get back in touch with the people who do the
Speaker 1: second date updates. This is obviously one that we'll have
Speaker 1: to ask them in a few months how things are going.
Speaker 1: It could be very happy or very sad. I'm staying
Speaker 1: optimistic about it.