WEBVTT - Rick WIlson & Jonathan Blitzer 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.320 today's best minds, and more than thirty Republican congressmen have 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.840 announced there leaving conference, we have said you great Joe 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.200 for you. Today, the Lincoln Project's own Rick Wilson joins 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.040 us to discuss the Trump Administration's attempt to cover up 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.639 the murder of Renee Good, and we'll talk to the 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:29.000 New Yorkers Johnathan Blitzer about how the Trump administration is 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:35.640 making Democratic Congresswoman le Monica mcgiver's life hell. But first 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.559 we have the stories the media is missing Somali. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.560 We are known haters of AI and it wiped out 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.000 four hundred billion dollars for the stock market this week. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.479 And one of the funniest things is this week is 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.080 as this is happening, we find out that a bunch 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.440 of tech bros tried to create a hyperstition for those 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.280 who don't know hyperstitions where you say something and try 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.240 to make it real even though it's not real, and 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.600 you know it. That these claud bots were all talking 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.400 to each other that AI has said to you, it's well, 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.280 it's well at more advanced than it actually is, and 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.520 because of all this mythologizing, we are seeing a massive 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.880 re structuring of our economy. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.600 I'm going to make this clear. AI is not doing 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.200 what they told us it was going to do. It 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.600 is not this sentient super being. It is just better computing, 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.280 but is not changing the world. We are not going 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.240 to all lose our jobs because of AI. This is 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.360 good news, This should be good news. The problem is 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.440 our entire economy is puffed up on the fantasy that 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:43.200 AI is supercomputers. And so either what had to happen 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.399 was that the stock market was going to create or 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.320 AI was going to replace all of us, and we 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.880 were going to live, as Elon Mush says, live care 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.600 free in the world of Elon Mush, and we were 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.840 all going to get universal basic income, not from him, 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.480 of course, and not from our government. Well here's what's happened. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.960 The truth is AI is good and getting better, but 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:09.800 he's not going to replace all of us, and that's 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.520 really probably good news. And if our stock market had 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.240 been normal, we would be fine. But instead it has 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.799 puffed up our economy and so everybody's going to lose 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.640 a lot of money. And that's what we saw this week. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.919 AI four hundred billion this week in paper returns in 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.400 the market. So that sucks, and it sucks for people 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.000 like Cora sam Altman, who felt useless and sad using 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.960 his own AI to code. All right, honestly, fuck all 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.200 of them. We could have avoided all of this if 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.680 people hadn't been fucking liars, and that is how we 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.680 got here, so conned again by stupid white guys. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.000 And as a side effect, we all get higher electricity fees. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.920 But I'm just glad that there are enormous data centers 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.880 built everywhere in our country using water to make AI 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:08.840 slop of Donald Trump. So just say no to AI. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.680 Don't use it, don't post the photos, don't let them 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.840 fuck up stuff, just let it go. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:19.480 So in really ridiculous news and something that I uh. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:24.360 Find Mark Ebstein, I'm sorry. I see the headline of 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.399 Jeffrey Epstein's brother, and I know and by the way 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.799 I say this, I take no pleasure to report that. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.240 This makes me so angry. But you go and then 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.920 I'll tell you why Mark Ebstein makes me furious. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.160 Okay, So over the weekend, what we saw is that 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.960 first there is a big controversy where Jeffrey Epstein's death 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.080 statement is dated the day before it happened, which there 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.200 is some rational explanations for this. But another thing everybody's 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.960 been discussing all week is that Mark Epstein submitted a 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.720 tip that Donald Trump ordered the execution of his brother 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.240 Jeffrey Epstein to cover up for him naming names. And 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:05.200 he confirmed to the Independent that he did indeed submit 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:05.760 this tip. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:10.000 All right, listen, here's the deal. What if the conspiracy 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.880 is not any of these conspiracies, but it's a conspiracy 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:19.760 that a rich, white, sociopathic guy and his horrendous British 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:25.760 girlfriend got away with sex trafficking thousands of women and girls. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.160 What if that is the scandal. What if that is 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.160 the conspiracy. What if the conspiracy is a conspiracy of silence. 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:38.159 What if the conspiracy is that people still let these 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.719 people be in government. What if the conspiracy is that 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.440 Donald Trump was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, that half of 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.800 his cabinet did business. I mean, you got Letnick doing 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:52.040 business with jeffff You got John Phalen riding in Jeffrey 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.920 Epstein's plane. Michael Wolfe has a huge substack and he 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.560 is was giving media advice and getting free shoes from 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:04.240 Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein spent ten thousand dollars buying underwear 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.080 for Woody Allen. What if the conspiracy is that these 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.320 fucking guys get to serve in our government and walk 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.400 among us. What if that's the conspiracy. What if it's 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.080 the fact that no one got prosecuted except Glayne, That, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.919 in my mind is a bigger conspiracy than anything else. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.479 And am I saying that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't murdered. I 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.800 don't know what happened to Jeffrey Epstein, but I honestly 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.920 care more about why there are not other people being 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:35.400 held accountable. And that is what makes me the most furious. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.760 So that is why I say, do not get involved 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.400 in the conspiracies. Get involved in the larger conspiracy, which 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.479 is we do not believe women victims. That should be 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:51.000 the conspiracy. Women are being treated terribly. They're being raped 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:55.320 and assaulted and abused, and people are not listening to them. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:59.400 And is year twenty twenty six. That is a conspiracy 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:00.960 that I think deserves your attention. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:01.679 Agreed. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.800 So we saw a big controversy this week where apparently 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.880 Donald Trump wanted a bunch of things named after him 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.640 and exchanged for unfreezing some funding. And this week we 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.600 saw a US judge unfreeze the funding for the Gateway Tunnel, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.880 which would go from Central Manhattan to Union City, New 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.400 Jersey and help lots of trades move faster and really 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:22.480 help our economy. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:23.640 What do you see it here, Molly. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.599 It comes back to this central law of Trumpism, which 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.320 is Trump is trying to do a lot of illegal shit, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.400 and if you fight back in the courts, he loses. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.279 And that's what this is, right, Donald Trump said, I'll 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.120 give you the money. It's not his to give. Okay, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.599 it's federal money put together by the federal government and 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.480 Donald Trump briefly as president again, but that does not 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.960 make this money his. And like, the problem with the 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.640 Trump cryptocracy is that my man behaves like a monarch 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.960 and everyone's like, oh, it's his to give. It's not 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.760 his to give. I mean, this is one of the 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.839 big problems of where we are at this moment. A 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.800 lot of this is just norms and not laws. So 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.440 we expect our president to behave a certain way because 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.720 of norms, when in fact we should have laws in 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:14.400 place because when you get someone who doesn't follow laws, 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:17.679 like oh, Donald Trump, this is what happens. So again 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:21.000 the judge unfreezes the funding. It was frozen by Trump. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:24.640 It's sixteen billion dollars. It was allocated to this tunnel project. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.200 Donald Trump has been playing I'm not going to give 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.120 it to you unless he told Chuck Schumer that he 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:35.400 want a Penn station named after him. Again, why anyone 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.320 would want Penn station named after you, I don't know, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.040 but it's a good point, Like none of this is his. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.840 You know, you just have to keep going in court. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.440 The illegal stuff will not stay. You know, we do 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.600 think God have judges and laws and we are not 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.040 of an honor republic, and so people have to just fight. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.240 And you know it's unfrozen. They'll be able to eventually 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.200 build this tunnel. Donald Trump will costs us all billions 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.600 of dollars. And you know he's doing this because he's 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.120 mad that none of us voted for him. Because he's 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.320 a fucking criminal, and that is where we are, so 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.320 none of us should be surprised. It's just what he does. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.480 This is how we got here, this is what it is, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.240 and we need our Democrats to fight, fight, fight and 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:22.960 protect our norms and institutions and also you know, everything 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.200 else and everyone else. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.640 So to go back to the beginning of this broadcast 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.080 where we were talking about AI and how it's pretty incompetent. 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.440 You know what, I don't want it doing what scanting 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:36.079 photos of ice protesters and then removing people at scans 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.520 from the TSA pre check. It seems like nothing will 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:39.920 go wrong with that, definitely not. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.560 The other thing that's kind of amazing about it is 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.920 it's such a like trumpy idea. It's like, we're going 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:49.240 to make it harder for them in the airport. That's 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.600 how we're going to stick it to them. It's just 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:57.000 a completely stupid I think that this is very stupid. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.720 I think that it's not going to work. I think 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.600 that at every point they're trying to interest closer to 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.560 a police state. The good news is the technology is 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.720 not there. But next time there's going to be a 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.120 president and the technology is going to be there. And 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.920 the question is when we have the laws in place 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.920 to prevent him from doing the kind of stuff that 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.120 Trump has tried to do here. And I think that 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.400 should be something that all of us are thinking about 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:27.600 all the time. Rick Wilson is the founder of the 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.520 Lincoln Project and the host of the Enemy's List. Rick Wilson, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:31.800 how are you? 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.880 I am. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:40.080 Very cold in the northeast here. Things are not Mistakes 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.480 were made, and we all now we're long underwear speaking 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.959 of mistakes being made. Tell us the Gabbard. First of all, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.480 you know some of the worst people in Trump's administration. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.880 I take no pleasure to say this are Democrats. Talk 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.800 us through this whistleblower. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.640 Sure, sure, so. Last year, sometime prior to June sixth, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.880 we know that part the National Security Agency picked up 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:13.679 a person quote unquote close to Trump discussing intelligence matters 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:19.480 concerning Iran with someone in a hostile foreign intelligence service. 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:25.400 That's what we know so far. Gabbered, instead of reporting 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:29.480 this appropriately throughout the intelligence community to develop countermeasures for it, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:34.360 et cetera, took it directly to Susie Wiles. This is 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.800 way outside the normal procedure that one would do on this, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:43.040 and gave it to Susie Wiles for unknown purposes. After that, 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.560 someone in the intelligence community said, whatever happened to that? 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.200 And they were told basically shut the fuck up and 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.880 to pay no attention. And so they reported it through 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.640 the inspector general system in the intelligence community in the 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.280 d and I apparently Tulsi Gabbard decided not to follow 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.840 the rules and the law where that has to be 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.760 made known within thirty days to the Gang of Eight 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.760 in Congress, this the eight senior bipartisan Intelligence and Defense 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.160 Oversight members. Because of that, we had to wait a 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:16.559 year almost until we found out about this. And Gabbard 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.120 has now been out lying about the sequence of events, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.240 lying about the timeline, lying about what the Inspector General said, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:25.160 And she is in some deep, deep, deep deep shit. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.400 This is one of those things that's like the intelligence community. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.880 People that are still around, they give a damn about 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.920 their job, they give a damn about the country and 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.520 the security, and she has put us in danger. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.520 There are sort of all these different national security protocols 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:45.880 and ways that it's supposed to be done. Tulsey flouted those. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.880 But also the security the information that's been leaked or 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.520 had that she leaked is like the highest level. Can 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.080 you explain that. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.720 Yeah, this is something that is so compartmentalized. So folks 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.280 have all heard about secret and top secret, and a 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.199 lot of people now have heard about what they call 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:08.520 sci compartmentalized information, and a compartmentalized program could have a 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.200 thousand people in it, or it could have four people 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.280 in it. This is at a level apparently that is 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.400 so above and beyond because of both the nature of 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.240 the target whoever this foreign intelligence person was, and the 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:27.560 collection system from the NESSA that got the information. So 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.160 this is something incredibly sensitive Crown Jewels level stuff, to 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.800 the point where it could not have been transmitted outside 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.840 of a group of probably like a dozen people in 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:42.640 the entire government. This is a very like blazing red 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:47.720 flag about Gabbard's inability and lack of temperament to do 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:48.240 this job. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.440 Is it worse or better than being at than adding 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.520 the editorom chief of The Atlantic to a signal chat 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:59.000 about bombing around? 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.559 This is wild worse. 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.160 So how bad can it be? That seems good. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.920 Because that foreign intelligence person almost certainly will now become 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.960 aware that we are targeting them in a certain way 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.280 using a certain method, they will communicate differently. The other 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:17.880 part of this is what it implicates in the Trump administration. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.760 We have seen in what we know of the complaints 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:28.160 so far, is that the person they were talking to 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:33.000 was quote close to Trump. This does not mean it 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.800 is a government official, given Donald Trump's propensity for using 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.520 outside actors Steve Whitcoff, Jared Kushner, et cetera, who are 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:46.560 not government officials to conduct diplomacy and intelligence and foreign policy. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.360 I'm deeply concerned that somebody inside the Trump government told 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.400 what say it was Jared. I have no evidence that 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.840 it was Jared someone, but let's say it's someone like 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:01.640 a Jared who gets on the phone and calls another person. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.160 By the way, many investors, did you. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:08.240 Hear about this? Correct? Did you hear about this thing 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.400 that we're doing. I don't think this that's. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.720 The scenario you're describing. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.760 I don't think it right. I don't think it's Jared 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.400 per se, but it is. I think it is a 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.400 person in that category, most likely, because if it had 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.360 been a government official, they would have said a Trump 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.600 administration official in the. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.960 Compute, and they would have been fired. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.880 Hypothetically in a normal admiration, in a world where you 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:31.360 and I were in charge, they'd be right. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.920 I'm going to actually want to move on for a 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.640 minute to something that is not on our schedule, but 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.360 I think is important. Is like this week, there was 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.360 huge reporting out of the Wall Street Journal about the 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:49.920 crypto scam amazing and how the Trump kids, the boys, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:56.360 even Barren are involved in this making handover first money 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.720 in crypto and then cashing out before the investors. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.240 Yes, you know why they're Actually they may not be 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.920 a smart family, but they recognize when they're in a 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.680 con and they're gonna rug pull people, they need to 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.160 get out before the rug gets pulled. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.640 But half the rug was sold to the United Arab Emirates. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.960 Discuss one of those many many things where if you 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.200 added up all the bs that the House Oversight Committee 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.640 claimed that Hunter Biden was involved in, they said, oh, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.320 Hunter Biden and the Biden family brought in twenty seven 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:31.840 million dollars. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:32.800 The Biden crime family. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.400 Biden crime family. Yes, exactly twenty seven million dollars so far, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.440 as the Times outlined, we're talking about five hundred million, 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.840 five point fifty. I think it was from the UAE, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.040 from the Shadowy Prince as they called him, who runs 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.280 the UA's intelligence services, because that couldn't possibly be a 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.880 conflict at all, who also does a lot of business 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:51.560 with China. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.760 Yeah no, no, I mean the klepto krat stuff. The 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:03.840 kryptocracy is just astounding. And it's so astounding that Andrew 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:08.160 McCarthy talk us through that, because that is so when 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.360 you've lost. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.160 From yeah, lost Andrew McCarty. Now look, let me let 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.280 me describe it. Andrew. Andy McCarthy is I know, you know, 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:23.440 Andrew McCarthy is a Republican attorney, former DJ Guy conservative, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.440 no fan of either Barack Obama or Joe Biden by 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.920 any conceivable circumstances. But I will give Andy credit on something. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.080 He's been a very straight shooter on the Trump corruption issue. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.760 And he has said quite openly and to the and 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.680 to the very ugly reaction of their readers, to the 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.120 readers of National Review, this corruption stinks on ice. It 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:51.680 is unbelievably enormous and consequential and dangerous for this country. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:58.040 And Donald Trump is running basically a racket. And he 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.400 wrote a very very strong piece about it. You know, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.840 he continued to condemn the Biden's fine whatever, but he 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.560 he laid out this unbelievably powerful case against Trump. And 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.840 the right wing reaction has been very like, how dare you, sir, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.280 point out the criminality of our criminal. 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.800 Yeah, And and I mean I think that's the problem 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.960 that you see these people are incentivized to go along 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:23.639 with everything because the base is so radicalized and the 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:28.080 base is so convinced that anything any kind of criticism 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.640 of Trump is you know, but I want you. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.240 To get They think it gives the Libs a. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.679 Win right, exactly as opposed, and the road to just 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:44.360 a complete dictatorship is paved with don't let win right 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:49.960 and and just this insane propaganda that Trump world needs. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.000 And by the way, I mean that's why I want 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.080 to get to this Renee Good stuff, because. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:58.640 Yeah, there's more. 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.560 It's think every day is just a nightmare of news. 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:08.119 Renee Good, she was murdered by Ross Jonathan Ross, an 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.359 ice agent. Now there was that one video where it 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.199 almost looked like she They had one video which was 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.359 from like ten miles away that made it look like 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:23.040 maybe she was trying to hit him, But every other 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:24.960 piece of forensic evin and shows. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.080 It exactly was the case. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.199 Yeah, she was turning the car, she was driving away. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.320 She was I'm not mad, bro, and he was any shotter. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.280 So talk to us about cash Battel. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:45.600 We now know that when the FBI agents assigned to 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:50.879 the Minneapolis Field office began to do what they were 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.760 required by law to do, which is to their education, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.080 their jobs, to open an investigation of the killing of 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.280 an American citizen by federal law enforcement officers. They were 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:06.560 told to stand down. They were examining Renee Goods vehicle 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.960 when they were told by senior FBI agents now from reporting, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:14.080 including cash Ptel himself, to stop. Why would he order that? 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.240 Why would he wandered that, Molly, he would order that 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.000 because they understand what they did. They understood right away 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.359 what happened. They understand that if you, if you allow 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.680 the process of the law to play out, Jonathan Ross 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.159 and the other FBI or the other ICE agents that 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.320 were in the street that day are going to prison. Yeah, 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:36.040 and Trump cannot afford to let Jonathan Ross or the 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.399 guys who shot Alex Pretty go to prison. His base 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.560 has been conditioned, like you just talked about. The insane 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:47.120 propaganda has told seventy million Americans who loved Donald Trump 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.160 that Alex Pretty was a murderer of domestic terrorists coming 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.280 there to slaughter ICE agents, and Renee Good was a 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.439 radical left wing paid activist, lesbian danger to the lives 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.920 of these poor innocent ICE agents trying to do their job. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:06.359 That propaganda machine cannot have those people go down. And 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:12.280 so that's why cash Bettel directly intervened, suborting a legitimate 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.639 civil rights and law enforcement investigation into the murder of 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.560 Renee Good to protect Donald Trump, and to protect worse 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.440 than just protect Donald Trump, to protect the Magan narrative. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:24.840 If you're saddened and disgusted by it, folks, that's the 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.200 reaction of a normal human being. 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.439 I also think that much of the people in Trump's 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.560 second administration are here to cover for him, Yeah, cover 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:35.080 for his bad policy. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:36.920 Abler, Right. 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.040 So it's either you know, they're covering for bad policy 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.000 and they're covering for poorly trained ice agents, or they're 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.360 covering for kleptocracy, or they're I mean, like the central 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:51.040 theme of this conversation right now is watching members of 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:55.440 Trump administration. And again, Tulsea Gabbert is a good example. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:21:01.080 Like Tulsey knew that somebody in that talk with someone 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.400 that what she was put in place to keep from 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.960 getting in trouble wick Cough. 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.120 If it's a if it's a Cushner, if it's. 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.200 A whoever, whoever. 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.800 She she put politics above national security. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:21.240 Right, And cash Battel put law and order, law and order, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:26.600 and at every point here what we're seeing is an 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:31.200 administration that exists largely to protect Trump and protect trump Ism. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.800 And by the way, it's a stark contrast to the Democrats, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.119 who are I mean, what's going on. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.720 Look, I'm going to give them props on one thing 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.600 this week because mostly my love is just tough, not 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:54.640 just love. But but the Democrats correctly this year held 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.520 the line on all this redistricting crap. Yes, Texas has 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.280 blown up on them and the and the whining bitches 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.800 like ted cruising, how dare you do this? But is 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:10.120 it redising? Which, yeah, yeah, you started it, We finished it. 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:12.560 Sorry Pale Virginia. 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:16.520 But look, they need to hold the line on on 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:20.120 this Epstein stuff and on Ice. They need to keep 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.720 the pressure up, not let it go down. And I 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.520 know the natural instinct of people like Chuck Schumer is like, 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.000 let's let let's breathe, let's let's all sit and reason together. 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:34.120 Right, that's a by gone No, my. 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:38.080 Honorable friend across the aisle. No, you have no honorable 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.240 friends across the aisle anymore, buddy, Yeah, they don't exist. 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.000 Yeah, And I think there will be a moment when 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:50.880 things start to shift back to what American democracy once 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:56.480 was in the you know progs would and there is 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.879 going to need to be real introspection of how we 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.800 got here. And it means that, as you know, even 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:08.800 though Trump was the kleptocrat that you know that was 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:12.919 that that really moved us to the next level of 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:17.720 democratic rod there were there are ways in which we 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:22.119 failed to regulate that Goddess here hundreds. 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:27.480 Of different examples in our current moment, Molly where and 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:34.320 it's not always, and it's not universal. Where where normalcy 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.280 bias made Democrats think, Okay, well, I you know, the 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.840 Republican My Republican buddies are faking this. It's okay, we'll 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.480