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Speaker 3: close in on the NFL Draft a couple weeks. But

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Speaker 3: the biggest dudes of the week Josh Allen signing an

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, afternoon, JP. How the heck are you? I'm

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Speaker 4: doing great, doing great?

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Speaker 3: How long? What is the two weeks from the draft?

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Speaker 3: Two weeks from today? Man?

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Speaker 4: It's uh, it's that time of year coming in hot

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Speaker 4: that time here Masters is on TV right now, Draft

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Speaker 3: It's a good time of year. Is a lot happening,

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Speaker 3: good time of Yearly OTAs are starting up. Yes, fine, soon,

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Speaker 3: that's good. He'll be on the field doing things. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I met some point for the players. It's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, I mean it's a big deal.

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Speaker 4: I mean players come back in town working out together,

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Speaker 4: new defensive coaching staff, new scheme to learn a lot

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Speaker 4: of that going on. I'm sure they'll tweak some of

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Speaker 4: the offensive stuff as well, but not as it's not

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Speaker 4: going to be a complete overhaul of the system obviously,

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Speaker 4: like the defensive side of the ball, that's going to

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Speaker 4: be a lot of change, a lot of new personalities

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Speaker 4: and some of the same.

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Speaker 3: Guys, including a guy who just signed an extension five years.

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Speaker 3: Reports of one hundred and forty one million dollars in

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Speaker 3: change twenty eight point two five million dollars annually. Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen is coming back and the number seven pick in

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Speaker 3: the twenty nineteen NFL Draft. It's a massive amount of money.

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Speaker 3: But he talked a lot yesterday about leaving a legacy.

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Speaker 5: So last year bringing his single season record wasn't because

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Speaker 5: as a contract here. Thankfully it was a contract year,

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Speaker 5: but if it was two three years ago, I would

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Speaker 6: But it's just figuring everything out and.

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Speaker 5: Putting the pieces together, you know, building that confidence back

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Speaker 5: up that I feel like I lost because I didn't

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Speaker 5: So it's investing in here, investing to your body a

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Speaker 5: okay with the results that come with it. So for me,

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Speaker 5: it's too all right, that worked for me, you know,

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Speaker 5: found out what works for me. I find out my plan,

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Speaker 5: I find out my schedule, and you know, again, I

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Speaker 5: thank God every morning, every night, and before I eat

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Speaker 5: that I'm thankful, and I am a humble servant under him,

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Speaker 3: So that's Josh Allen yesterday the full press conference on

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Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com. Seventeen and a half sacks in the

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Speaker 3: contract year, of course, and now ten sacks, shy of

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Speaker 3: tying Tony Brackens with the franchise record, Jeff Logoman, Hey

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Speaker 4: And I'm excited and happy to have him just because

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Speaker 4: It's it's like, okay, now we got to find somebody

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Speaker 4: It's not easy to do. So glad he's back in

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Speaker 3: But the production, the numbers might not have been there

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Speaker 4: You know, i'd see don I don't look at Josh

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Speaker 4: the money is you know, I think it puts him,

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Speaker 3: It's the third largest value contract of any current NFL

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Speaker 4: He he kind of rolled the dice a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He played last year and I don't want to bet

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Speaker 4: And I still believe that Josh was a good player

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Speaker 3: He talked a lot yesterday about last year going into

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Speaker 4: And that's a good thing. And I know he also

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Speaker 4: So but that's good. I think that's a great plan

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Speaker 4: And I'm happy for Josh. And he's one of my favorites,

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Speaker 3: He's good for the room. And he had to go

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Speaker 4: And so I mean Josh learned it, and good for him,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely he is. Those are the kind of players, again,

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Speaker 3: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman And now to the part about

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Speaker 3: this new defense that's coming in. Ryan Nielson, of course,

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Speaker 3: We know that, but there were moments late last year.

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Speaker 3: and Trayvon both did? And could that be something moving forward?

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Speaker 4: I don't see him getting moved inside on a regular basis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got about five or six of them. We

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Speaker 3: It's worth saving, JP Shadrick, Jeff Logman. The Jack's been

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Speaker 4: I'm drinking the kool aid on this one like this,

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Speaker 4: So i like him because you know Alabama's got another

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Speaker 4: guy and Terry and Arnold is that I say that

434
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Speaker 4: right the opposite corner, and so you have one in three, Okay,

435
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Speaker 4: Terry and Arnold is number three and kool Aid is

436
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Speaker 4: number one, And so when you watch Alabama, you got

437
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Speaker 4: to pay attention to both of them as well as

438
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Speaker 4: Dallas Turner and everybody else because you're watching a ton

439
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Speaker 4: of guys who are sitting a rewind in the film

440
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Speaker 4: ten times, because you want to watch everybody on that

441
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Speaker 4: dpence that's a draftable player. But I really believe that

442
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: kool Aid's the better of the two. There's some prognostic

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Speaker 4: hitters that believe that Terry and Arnold is the higher

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Speaker 4: rated one.

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Speaker 3: Not in my book.

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Speaker 4: Why so, because kool Aid plays man and he is

447
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 4: right there. So if you're the wide receiver, he is

448
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: right there in the hip pocket a wide receiver. Everywhere

449
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: he goes. He's got a very very strong ability to

450
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Speaker 4: do that. So if you're looking for a guy that's

451
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Speaker 4: going to play man, he's He's not super big, but

452
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Speaker 4: he's got I think decent size.

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Speaker 3: I like him.

454
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Speaker 4: I think he could play some some great football for

455
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Speaker 4: a team that's asking asking their corners to play man.

456
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: I think he's got that talent.

457
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Speaker 3: Well. The Jaguars in their history have drafted three first

458
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Speaker 3: round cornerbacks. Fernando Bryant nine two five. That's Fernando Bryant

459
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Speaker 3: out of Alabama twenty sixteen. Jalen Ramsey of course out

460
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Speaker 3: of Florida State twenty twenty. CJ. Henderson out of Florida.

461
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Speaker 3: That was a terrible draft pick. So Henderson didn't last.

462
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Speaker 3: Ramsey didn't finish his deal here either, he got traded.

463
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Speaker 4: The whole thing with with drafting the guy from Flora,

464
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Speaker 4: wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: CJ. Henderson?

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Speaker 4: I mean you remember after he was drafted, it was

467
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Speaker 4: almost looked like he was not happy the action.

468
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Speaker 3: The action was terrible. It started bad and it ended

469
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Speaker 3: bad and and in between. It was not good. No,

470
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Speaker 3: it was far from it. It was not a good pick.

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Speaker 3: So the Jackson at least historically, how was Bran Brandon

472
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Speaker 3: Brown's a good player, yeah yeah, two five two five

473
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Speaker 3: is a good player now. And Ramsey was a good player.

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Speaker 4: Jalen's great player, Yeah, great player. I mean just you

475
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Speaker 4: know the personality of Jalen didn't work here and it

476
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Speaker 4: was better for him to go to other places, I guess.

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Speaker 4: But excellent player. And what I loved about Jalen is

478
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Speaker 4: Jaalen when he wants to be he's so physical, so

479
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: physical and uh, superior talent. You know, there there's certain

480
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Speaker 4: guys that play the game that they just have superior talent.

481
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Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey is like one of those guys at corner

482
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Speaker 4: the uh the safety uh uh for the Chargers James

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Speaker 4: you know, uh Florida State.

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Speaker 3: Guy Gosh Derwin James.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Derwin James is like a like freak, freak, athletic,

486
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: super strong, super fast, I mean Derwin James, Jalen Ramsey.

487
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Speaker 4: I mean, these are guys that just they're physical freaks

488
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Speaker 4: and they don't come along very often. They just have

489
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Speaker 4: superior ability and uh and they're fun to watch play.

490
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Speaker 4: But you gotta hit. You gotta hit this first round.

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Speaker 4: If you're going cornerback, you gotta have a guy that

492
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Speaker 4: can last. The percentages of the of the of hitting

493
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Speaker 4: in the first round need to be very high for

494
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Speaker 4: any football team. And if they're not, then you need

495
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Speaker 4: to look at who's picking them.

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Speaker 3: Give me another couple of names that could be in

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Speaker 3: that mix. Of these three we talked about here, Terry

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00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: and Arnold is one of them, right.

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Speaker 4: Possibly, well, I mean I think as far as like corners, yeah, well,

500
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: I mean, if you look Wiggins, Nate Wiggins from Clemson's

501
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: a guy that plays a little bit of man. He's

502
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: got some size. Not real big fan of his physical

503
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: presence tackling ability. I think it's a little bit weak

504
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 4: at times, but he's somewhere up in that range. But

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Speaker 4: I really believe, Jap that you got to be looking

506
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Speaker 4: at those top corners if the Jaguars use that pick

507
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Speaker 4: in the first round, because I think that they will

508
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Speaker 4: have their choice of any corner when it comes to

509
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Speaker 4: pick seventeen. If not, then it'll be the second best corner.

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Speaker 4: I'm voting right now, by the way, the Webby award

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Speaker 4: I am. I am on that right now, and I

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Speaker 4: am going to vote for the Jaguars schedule release.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars, thank you keeping it. Real expectations for Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen when we return. A Jaguars Happy Hour brought to

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Speaker 3: It's worth saving.

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Speaker 5: But it's about ten twenty years from when he starts

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Speaker 5: to understand and develop, Oh daddy, you you got me

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Speaker 5: here or I was there when you did this, And

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Speaker 5: then we can look back, we can look back at

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Speaker 5: the videos and the pictures and just you know, gain

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Speaker 5: those memories back.

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Speaker 6: And see how happy we were at that time. So

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Speaker 6: that's what that's what's special for me.

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Speaker 5: And again it create my legacy and to leave the

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Speaker 5: legacy wherever I go, and they're part of it and

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Speaker 5: they're always going to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen discussing family with Kay Stevens. The one on

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Speaker 3: one conversation available at Jaguars dot Com and Jags YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour continues, brought to you by the Saint

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Speaker 3: John's River Water Management District, Florida's water. It's worth saving. Well,

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Speaker 3: the draft is almost here, two weeks away. The Jags

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Speaker 3: will be on the clock at number seventeen. Unless they're not.

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Speaker 3: They can move back, they can move up, they can

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Speaker 3: just stay there. There's plenty of options either way. There's

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Speaker 3: a party at the bank on Thursday April twenty fifth,

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Speaker 3: and there will be a draft radio show that starts

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Speaker 3: from the stadium on Thursday the twenty fifth as well.

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Speaker 4: So a lot going on as always on Draft night.

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00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: Excited and looking forward to it. The NFL does a

550
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: great job of making the draft of production. It certainly

551
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: is a production in Detroit this year. Correct, it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: downtown City, Motor City will have a good show. I'm sure,

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Speaker 4: yes they will. Well, they'll do a good job. But

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Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the first round.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 4: I watch enough guys on film to get around around

557
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Speaker 4: probably three rounds deep total, you know, because I'm watching

558
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: about five or six guys at each position, so that

559
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: adds up pretty quick. But I like to see what

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Speaker 4: other people think, you know, once the draft happens, you

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Speaker 4: kind of compare that what happens to what you kind

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Speaker 4: of had a mental picture of to see was I

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Speaker 4: kind of thinking the right thing? Or you know, what

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Speaker 4: do these do these guys know? What the heck they're doing,

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of a thing. But the great thing

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Speaker 4: about the draft again, it's it's and so it's there's

567
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: no exact science to it whatsoever. In fact, some people

568
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: might have a great knack of it and for it

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Speaker 4: that have no experience of working for an NFL team,

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00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: because some people can can see the traits, some people

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Speaker 4: can see the production and can kind of put it together.

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Speaker 4: I wonder when AI, or if AI will ever have

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Speaker 4: a role It's got to have a role at some

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Speaker 4: point in analyzing talent college talent for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Don't you think they will always be able to do

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Speaker 3: statistically some of that, I would guess, But you can't.

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Speaker 3: Computer can't measure hard No, but a computer can measure

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Speaker 3: speed and reaction and all of those things.

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Speaker 4: Because I mean, nowadays they have players wearing these monitors

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Speaker 4: now everywhere. And I mean, so what information is not

581
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Speaker 4: out there, I don't know, But I mean there's a

582
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Speaker 4: lot of information that AI could use to help spit out,

583
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Speaker 4: you know, the the AI top prospect list or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's going to be interesting.

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00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: AI is having such a huge impact in so many

586
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Speaker 4: other areas of our life today, why not looking at

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Speaker 4: NFL Prospects.

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah, why not? We're on ten Tenexlam Jaguars

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Speaker 3: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman and

590
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: as we always do on this program, we keep it

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Speaker 3: real pretty much all the time. Well, certainly in this

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Speaker 3: segment because it's called keeping it real. Okay, the topic today,

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Speaker 3: how will Josh Allen handle the expectations that come with

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Speaker 3: this size of a contract.

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Speaker 4: That's a challenge. I think you'll handle it very well.

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Speaker 4: Again I said this earlier. Josh Allen is the type

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Speaker 4: of qual of person an athlete that you want to

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Speaker 4: make sure that you get on that second contract. I'm

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Speaker 4: glad they got it done with them. I don't worry

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Speaker 4: about a guy like Josh Allen. I mean there's some

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Speaker 4: guys that you always worry about. Okay, he's got the money, now,

602
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: he's not going to end up having the work ethic.

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Speaker 3: And the commitment to it.

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Speaker 4: That's why you got to be careful with who you

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Speaker 4: give the big money to, because some guys aren't wired

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Speaker 4: to handle the big money. It has an impact on

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Speaker 4: them in different ways. One it makes them a little

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Speaker 4: bit less. Some guys that could make them lazy, Hey, look,

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Speaker 4: you know I've got my guaranteed money. Now I broke

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Speaker 4: the bank, generational money.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 4: And some guys that it doesn't impact them at all

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Speaker 4: because they're an ultimate competitor and at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day, it's not about the money with them, it's

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Speaker 4: about playing the game at a high level. And always

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Speaker 4: I always like what Josh says because he talks about

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Speaker 4: leaving a legacy. Okay, legacy doesn't have anything to do

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Speaker 4: with money.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: When he's talking about legacy, he's talking about performance and

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Speaker 4: playing extremely well and setting a standard for himself. And

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Speaker 4: that's the kind of guy that you want to be

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Speaker 4: able to give that type of contract too, because you

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Speaker 4: know that he's going to react and be responsible and

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Speaker 4: act accordingly. You know how people are, You know how

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Speaker 4: fans are and should be because fans need to be.

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Speaker 3: Super into their football team. Is there a statistical number

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Speaker 3: that he needs to reach to call this successful or

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Speaker 3: does that matter to you? Well?

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I think there's always numbers that you

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Speaker 4: want to attain and because you know, look, everybody measures

632
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Speaker 4: a pass rusher by sacks and what was it seventeen

633
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Speaker 4: this past year and a half and so everybody's going

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Speaker 4: to expect seventeen seventeen and a half. I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to expect seventeen and a half, but I'm going to

636
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Speaker 4: expect double digits. I mean, I think that that's the

637
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Speaker 4: minimum bar that he needs to surpass, and a lot

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Speaker 4: of it depends on the circumstances. There are a lot

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Speaker 4: of guys that don't get twenty sacks or seventeen sacks

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Speaker 4: but have a huge impact on quarterbacks in the passer

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Speaker 4: So what's that impact? Sometimes it's not always measurable in

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Speaker 4: sacks or pressures. So but I think, you know, double digits.

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Speaker 4: If you're in double digits, man, you're an elite pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: I mean, simple fact. If you're a double digit sack guy,

645
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Speaker 4: you are an elite pass rusher in the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: If you do it year and in year out. That's

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Speaker 4: the challenge year in year out.

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Speaker 3: So ten is your number.

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Speaker 4: That's why TJ. Watt is up here, you know. That's

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Speaker 4: why Aaron Donald essentially anointed TJ. Watt Now he's the

651
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Speaker 4: best defender in the National Football League. And Aaron Donald

652
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Speaker 4: talked about a couple of things. When he talked about TJ. Watt,

653
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Speaker 4: and he was spot on consistency, stays on the field

654
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Speaker 4: all the time, plays running the pass equally well. I mean,

655
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Speaker 4: those are all the things that Josh Allen also does.

656
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Speaker 4: But the challenge with Josh now is to do it

657
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Speaker 4: again at that kind of a high level.

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Speaker 3: If TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt's been been stacking them, stacking them and stacking them,

660
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Speaker 4: and it's hard to do it at that level. TJ

661
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Speaker 4: better than Chris Jones. Jeez, it's great. It's a great conversation.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's better different different position. I

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Speaker 4: will tell you this, every time t J. Watt lines up,

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Speaker 4: if the play is anywhere in his neighborhood, he is

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Speaker 4: always very active. Sometimes Chris Jones can shut.

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Speaker 3: It down a little bit. The boy he can turn

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Speaker 3: it on.

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Speaker 4: When he turns it on, he's unbelievable. And I think

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Speaker 4: the challenge for Chris is to be able to have

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Speaker 4: more consistency the play in and play out for himself.

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Speaker 4: But when he rolls you, you're not gonna stop him.

672
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 4: You're not gonna stop him. But for Josh, the challenge

673
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Speaker 4: is consistency. To get to that point, you have to

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Speaker 4: do it year over years year. Look Josh had a

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Speaker 4: good year two years ago, but not quite the level

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Speaker 4: that you know that you wanted to see out of Josh,

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Speaker 4: and he was banged up a little bit, had a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a shoulder the year. First year is

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Speaker 4: a rookie ear really good year, you know. So it's

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Speaker 4: just trying to be consistent and have that productivity at

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Speaker 4: a high level consistently. It's hard to do, especially if

682
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Speaker 4: you're if you got to if you're dinged up, you know,

683
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Speaker 4: you're not feeling one hundred percent, you know, and that's

684
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Speaker 4: a that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 3: That was keeping it real. I thought we did that today.

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Speaker 4: I think we You certainly did your part trying to

687
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Speaker 4: keep it real, Jaja, you always do.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you know.

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Speaker 4: The uh to be keep keeping it real. I'm ana

690
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 4: real here. They're someall offensive linemen this this team could

691
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Speaker 4: really really use in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, so position group.

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Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if the Jaguars go offensive

694
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Speaker 4: line at seventeen, not one bit surprised. I would not

695
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Speaker 4: be a bit surprised if they go defensive tackle. If

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Speaker 4: if Law two's available at seventeen, which he's not gonna be,

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Speaker 4: If he were, and you don't pick him, some of

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Speaker 4: the needs get fired.

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Speaker 3: I mean the offensive line thing. We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 3: Considering the players I have on that line, there's some

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Speaker 3: veteran players on that line that may not be around

702
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Speaker 3: here for the long haul.

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Speaker 4: I would consider trying to trade up in this draft

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Speaker 4: to get Law too. She would trade up if if

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Speaker 4: there was, if there was a reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Level.

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Speaker 4: You know, when I say reasonable, you know you're not

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Speaker 4: gonna get in the top five, you know. And I

709
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Speaker 4: don't know if he would go in the top five.

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Speaker 4: But let's say that he's sitting there at ten, and

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Speaker 4: can you get to ten from seventeen to ten to

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Speaker 4: get a.

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Speaker 3: Guy like Sure you can, but it might cost you

714
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Speaker 3: more than you're willing to give up. And at some

715
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Speaker 3: point you need some cheap labor, you know. I mean,

716
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Speaker 3: you're starting to pay all this money out. You're gonna

717
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: need some rookie players on your team draft picks. What

718
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: do you mean pay all the money out? He just

719
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: paid Josh Allen quarterback, and hey, Luk's coming up. If

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Speaker 3: if you just paid a boatload of moneyed offensive line,

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Speaker 3: if I'm.

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Speaker 4: Paying a little guy like a lot too in this draft.

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm talking about that's yeah, but you need more

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Speaker 3: than just the first round guy. You need like the

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Speaker 3: second and third and fourth round players to fill your

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Speaker 3: roster out. That's saying, everybody, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: That's what if you draft, well, that's what allows you

729
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Speaker 4: to manage your salary cap because your roster is full

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Speaker 4: of guys that are essentially fixed income.

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Speaker 3: If you put it all in the first round guy,

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Speaker 3: then you don't have anybody else that are rookies.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, but I'm just saying, though, if if

734
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Speaker 4: lat two is available, let's say you can, you're.

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Speaker 3: Going go get him, Go get him. I love it.

736
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Speaker 4: I love him, you know, and you know me, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't watch college football during the fall because I

738
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Speaker 4: watch so much NFL.

739
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Speaker 3: I just burnt.

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Speaker 4: I can't watch that much football. There's not enough time

741
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Speaker 4: in the day, and and so for me, you got

742
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Speaker 4: to take a mental break. So I don't watch a

743
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Speaker 4: whole lot of college football. But watching a lot two,

744
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 4: he's I don't know if he's blockable, and watching him

745
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Speaker 4: against some of the higher rated tackles in the draft,

746
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Speaker 4: he's wearing them out, wearing them out. They can't block him.

747
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: He lines up inside outside verse. This is another one

748
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Speaker 4: who's really good, by the way, the Florida State guy,

749
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Speaker 4: he's really good.

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Speaker 3: The guy at Alabama.

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Speaker 4: Uh eh, Dallas Turner.

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Speaker 3: I believe his name is.

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Speaker 4: Where's number fifteen at Alabama? I like him, but I

754
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Speaker 4: don't like him at seventeen. But verse.

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Speaker 3: A lot too. Oh yeah, your trick. You're going all

756
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Speaker 3: in for a lot GM Jeff Flag is going on.

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling to JP it's not I mean, it's

758
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Speaker 4: just you don't see a guy like this come along

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Speaker 4: very often. He's just he's rare. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: use that term that we used last year. It starts

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Speaker 4: with a G. Yeah, depends with an iteration. Ass on

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Speaker 4: that on the use of that word. We're back in

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Speaker 4: just a moment. Social media questions, Microsoft questions. In fact,

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Speaker 3: It's worth saving.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's competing for days the South.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I I still believe with Todd Dogs

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Speaker 5: and you know, and I'm gonna believe that. And you know,

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Speaker 5: the best in my mind, the best defensive front.

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Speaker 6: Is gonna win these games.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like we have a great opportunity to

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Speaker 5: be the best defensive front in our division, which is

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Speaker 5: gonna lead us on to bigger and better things.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I'm excited to get the work.

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Speaker 5: I'm decided to be around the guys again, and uh

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Speaker 5: know that this part is done and over with.

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Speaker 6: And now it is to how can we how can

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Speaker 6: we win a Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen at this press conference yesterday. The full archive

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Speaker 3: Shadwick with Jeff Floggingmon. We're on teninexlam, Jaguars dot Com,

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Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube winding down for the day and time now

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Speaker 3: for social media questions powered by Microsoft Nice. We put

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Speaker 3: out the cat signal earlier today. How many we got today? Well,

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Speaker 3: here are the three best that we've come up with,

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Speaker 3: three bringing on answer question number one at Van Diver

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Speaker 3: twenty one. By the end of his extension, will Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen be viewed as the best Jags defensive player. Ever,

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Speaker 3: I hope. So it's not a yes or though.

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Speaker 4: Come on, well, I mean, look, uh, I don't think

795
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Speaker 4: that can be a yes or no answer. I mean

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Speaker 4: it's I hope So, I mean, you hope that he

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Speaker 4: stays healthy. You hope that he continues to get better,

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Speaker 4: which I believe he will. But health is a big thing,

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Speaker 4: and so there's no way to predict good health. Knocking

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Speaker 4: on wood that he stays healthy. But if he stays healthy,

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Speaker 4: I believe that Josh Allen will be considered arguably one

802
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Speaker 4: of the best Jaguar defenders in history.

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Speaker 3: If he goes to three Pro Bowls in the next

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Speaker 3: five years. It's a great argument.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who who else is up there?

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Speaker 3: Who else? Who else has five Pro Bowls in their

807
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: time on defense?

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Speaker 4: I don't think there has been one ever, No, And

809
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Speaker 4: who has the most Pro Bowls in the Jaguars history

810
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: on defense?

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Speaker 3: An interesting question? Donovan a couple of times.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he did, because you know, Donald was

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Speaker 4: kind of a tackler.

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Speaker 3: Rackens didn't go, did he.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Brack went, you know, I want to

816
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 4: say Jalen went a couple of times. Yeah, yeah, he went,

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Speaker 4: certainly now once at least once or twice. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's a great question, that might be a good trivia question.

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Speaker 4: Might already be tied for the most two kalas kalais

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Speaker 4: is here only you think of the best Jaguar defenders

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Speaker 4: in history were y Brackens kalais for a short period

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Speaker 4: of time. Obviously Darryl Smith I would put up there,

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Speaker 4: but they weren't.

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Speaker 3: They weren't getting the NFL accolades with that.

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Speaker 4: I don't I try not to use that as a

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Speaker 4: measuring stick because Jacksonville is smaller market, doesn't get the

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Speaker 4: national exposure. So you can't compare Pro Bowls with a

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Speaker 4: guy that's played in Jacksonville versus a guy that maybe

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Speaker 4: has played in New York.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's very it's very different.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think if you're an agent, I

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Speaker 4: think I'd be less likely or you'd want to be

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Speaker 4: less likely to tie that type of recognition to incentives.

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Speaker 4: You would like to have it maybe in another way, reachable,

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Speaker 4: reachable incentive instead of Pro Bowls because you know this

836
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 4: is a small market, you know the team hasn't been great,

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Speaker 4: the exposure hasn't been high, and you need exposure and

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00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: you need to be a good football team to gain

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Speaker 4: those type of accolades.

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Speaker 3: Next Ques question at jfix eighty eight. Which is more

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Speaker 3: likely to happen. The Jaguars trade up in the draft

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Speaker 3: to get a top receiver, or they trade for a

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Speaker 3: top veteran receiver such as Higgins, I Uk, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they necessarily.

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Speaker 4: Have to trade up, but I think I think a

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00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: wide receiver in the draft is definitely going to happen,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's going to happen fairly high, whether

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Speaker 4: it be in round one or round two. I think

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Speaker 4: that there could be a wide receiver taken. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that they're going to trade up. I don't think

851
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: this is a draft that you want to trade up.

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00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: You just said you would give the bank for a lot.

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Speaker 4: That's the only guy that's it. That's the only guy

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Speaker 4: I would do it for. Unless I was in need

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Speaker 4: of a quarterback, then obviously I would.

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Speaker 3: Then that's different.

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Speaker 4: I would give up a ton to get a Caleb

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Speaker 4: Williams or a Drake may or whatever, or you know.

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Speaker 3: One of those guys.

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Speaker 4: But I haven't watched anybody that i'd sit there and say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I'm willing to.

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Speaker 3: Give up a lot.

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00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: Now, those the two top wide receivers, which Marvin Harrison

864
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Speaker 4: Junior is really good. But you know, the one guy

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Speaker 4: that I really like, his elite neighbors. He's special. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of teams that think that. People think that

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior is a slam dunk first wide receiver

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Speaker 4: pick overall.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 6: He's good.

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Speaker 3: I think there's he's really good.

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Speaker 4: I know, but I mean, look here pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really good too. But you turn on the

874
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Speaker 3: film and what that what that guy does?

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Speaker 4: I mean, he just gets great separation and uh and

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Speaker 4: I think the name also brings a little bit more

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Speaker 4: attention to Marvin Harrison Junior as it should. He's really good. No,

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's not good. I'm just saying, is

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Speaker 4: that Milik neighbors are really good too?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really good. You know. So, I don't know. It's

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Speaker 3: a great debate. We'll find out in about four or

882
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: five years maybe at Dantonny Wilke is our final question today, Jeff,

883
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 3: if you had to guess what is the first down

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00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: starting lineup on the defense of line is Armstead going

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Speaker 3: to play three technique on first and second down. Yes, okay,

886
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Speaker 3: And now what's the starting lineup on first down?

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Speaker 4: You know, if you're playing a four down, which I

888
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: think they're going to play some four down this year.

889
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: Trayvon at left, in Devon Hamilton at knows, Eric Armstead

890
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: at three, Josh at the right defensive end, and then

891
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: your two linebackers, which Uh and Devin, and then the

892
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Speaker 4: corners with Tyson. Antonio Johnson will be at one safety

893
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 4: with Cisco at the other one, and then the other corner.

894
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Speaker 4: You know, we'll see what happened in the draft.

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Speaker 3: May not be on the roster, you may not be,

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Speaker 3: and then Nickel will be one of the guys they

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Speaker 3: signed a free agency most likely maybe yeah.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, unless somebody develops. You might get somebody in the

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Speaker 4: draft to you never know. Look, and here's the reality

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Speaker 4: to Antonio Johnson can play safety and he can play

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Speaker 4: nicol Right, So I mean great positional flexibility with him,

902
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: very similar to Hamilton, Kyle Hamilton and Baltimore. He's got

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Speaker 4: a similar skill.

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Speaker 3: Set's saying something Kyle Hamilton can play, I know he

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Speaker 3: can play.

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Speaker 4: I think Antonio Johnson can play too. And I mean

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Speaker 4: Hamilton is everywhere my whole What round was he?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Something ridiculous, Okay, because we had this

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Speaker 3: discussion about who was the best late round pick in

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00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: Jaguars history, and Telvin Smith's name popped out of my

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00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: into my mind, and no, Kyle Hamilton was the first round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm talking about Antonio Johnson. I knew Kyle Hamilton

913
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Speaker 4: was the first round pick. Come on JP first. Many

914
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 4: people thought he should be the first overall pick of

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Speaker 4: the draft. Antonio Johnson fifth round pick. Okay, we had

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Speaker 4: this discussion. I think it was last week. Wasn't it

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Speaker 4: about this?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

919
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Speaker 4: And I'm mistaken. I should have I should have said,

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Speaker 4: and I believe this. I believe Antonio Johnson will go

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Speaker 4: down as one of the best late round picks the

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Speaker 4: Jaguars I've ever had.

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Speaker 3: But you gotta go play. I want to go play.

924
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: But I'm just telling you that he was hurt. Remember

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Speaker 3: he hears him.

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Speaker 4: Harold string early in camp and then he ended up

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Speaker 4: missing the first you know, probably month of the season,

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Speaker 4: and they slowly worked him back in. But I'm just

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Speaker 4: telling you what I'm seeing, and I'm seeing a guy

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Speaker 4: that's got he's got a tremendous skill set and I

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Speaker 4: think he's gonna have a huge impact with his football team,

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Speaker 4: and I think he's gonna end up being one of

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Speaker 4: the best late round picks in Jaguars history.

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Speaker 3: You have it. The social media questions powered by Microsoft

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Speaker 3: are in for the day, and that will about do

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Speaker 3: it for our show. Congrats again to Josh Allen signing

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Speaker 3: his extension five year deal. But what a money is

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Speaker 3: he gonna buy his dinner now? I hope so one night.

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Speaker 3: He's always welcome in the studio, Let's put it that way,

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Speaker 3: and he will pop by on occasion, and two weeks

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Speaker 3: away from the NFL Draft, we'll have another show again

942
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Speaker 3: next week, and then all of a sudden we'll be

943
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Speaker 3: counting down the days and we have a draft show

944
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Speaker 3: and then that's coming up. We're gonna be live during

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Speaker 3: the draft. We'll do this show from the draft to

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Speaker 3: normal time, and then you guys will have the Draft

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Speaker 3: show after that and you're doing social media.

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Speaker 4: I have Jaguars, you don't know, Okay, a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 4: You'll probably jump on with us at something. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to guess, so I might just walk over there. Jumping

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Speaker 4: is dangerous we'll be we'll be in the TV studio

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Speaker 4: of the or should I say the National Broadcast booth

953
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Speaker 4: at the stadium. That's exactly we're gonna have a great

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Speaker 4: view of all the action.

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Speaker 3: That's Jeff Logoman. I'm JP Shadwick.

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Speaker 4: Thanks to Joe for fortunate Oh, David Shoe, Brent Reaver,

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Speaker 4: and thanks to you for listening and watching Shaguars Happy

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