1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Shoe Getty. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and Key Armstrong and Getty Strong. 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to you another fine hour of The Armstrong and 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: Getty Show. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: We're on vacation, but be not dismayed. 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Actually, I'm just yeah, we're getting indigestion. 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Are you eat enough California prones guilt? I'll grab some 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Preme guilt. Yeah, there you go. All right. 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 4: So, anyway, we're talking about conspiracy theories and the shapes 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: they take in the kind of ancient origins of them. 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: If you're just joining and joining them, maybe gravit y 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: podcast later. 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: I'm strung getting on demand. 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 4: But the conspiracist worldview transforms chaos into drama and tragedy 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: into design. It restores meaning in a confusing world by 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: insisting that every disaster, every death, every downturn must have 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: a reason. The most enduring conspiracy theories, like those surrounding 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: JFK's assassination this is so interesting, often follow events that 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 4: feel too momentous to have been set in motion by 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: something as mundane as one mentally unwell individual. I get 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: that it's hard to deal with. Jamie Palmer, who's an 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: editor at Quillette. When the senior editors had he was 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: a conspiracy thinker for years. 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: He's not anymore. 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: He noted that the idea of a communist misfit killing 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: an American president was an embarrassment to the New Left, 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: which he was part of. Unable to accept that a 39 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: unremarkable loaner could alter the course of history, many instead 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: turned to elaborate alternate explanations. 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: And I like this so much, I clipped it. 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: Psychologists call this the proportionality bias, the belief that great 43 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: events require great causes. A solitary gunman feels arbitrary and small. 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: A hidden cabal on the other hand, restores symmetry purpose 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: in a sense of moral order. Yeah, the proportionality bias. Now, 46 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: this is where it really gets interesting. Long before our 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: modern variance, conspiracy theories were spread via word of mouth 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: in the Middle Ages. Jews were targeted in particular because 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: they lived among Christians, but apart from them, they were 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 4: marked by different laws, different rituals, and occupations were reviewed 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 4: as the people who had known Christ but had rejected him. 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: When a boy was kidnapped and murdered in twelfth century England, 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: the accusation that Jews used the blood of children and 54 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: their passover rituals began to spread across christiendom the original 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: blood libel, and during the Black Deaths, Jews were again 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: blamed for deliberately spreading the plague through the poisasoning of wells, 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: which led directly to pilgrims, meaning the slaughter of Jews 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: across Germany, France and Switzerland. During the Reformation, Martin Luther 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 4: produced texts of virulent anti Semitism, urging Christians to eject 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: them forever from their lands and raise and destroy their houses. 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: These stories of villainy served the function the United Christians 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: against a common enemy, blamed catastrophes like the Pandemics on 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: humans rather than complex systems that they didn't understand, and 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: legitimized violence, as well as the confiscation of Jewish property. 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: The specific change demons become globalists, which is, become elites, 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: and covens become cabals, but the psychology remains the same. 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: Conspiracy theories offer what old religions once did, moral structure, 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 4: belonging in the assurance that evil is real, identifiable, and conquerable. 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: The platforms have changed, but the pattern has not. 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: I was listened to a podcast the other day a 71 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: topic I've talked about a lot before, the witch trials 72 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: of that period. At the time the printing press became popular. 73 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: It really drove the witch trials in that, like the 74 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: Internet now, you had printed material out there that anybody 75 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: could say anything they wanted, and lots of people believed 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: everything they read, and the whole witch thing spread. Forty 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: thousand witches they believe, were killed over many, many decades 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: during that period of time, but a witch it was 79 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: a full on conspiracy theory. Blaming is a discomfort with 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: the number of unwed women there were. Is a lot 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: of what it was driving it culturally. 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 4: So the first real use of the printing press was 84 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 4: printing crap about witches. Yeah, if that don't tell you 85 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: everything you need to know about humanity, I don't know 86 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: what went. 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: So here's the interesting question. 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: I think, if you're thinking a man or a woman, 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: what's the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory? 90 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: I mean, because there are plenty of conspiracies, more than 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: one person working toward a despicable end. 92 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: We ain't got an illegal end. 93 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: You got to give JFK people, certainly in the early 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: part a path. So it turns out the guy lived 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: in Russia, went to Cuba recently. 96 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, had been id'd by the CIA 97 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: in the midst of. 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: The Cold War. 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost a stretch that he wasn't involved with 100 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: the Soviet Union somehow. 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I would agree, I would agree there was 102 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: plenty of risks for that mail. 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: But and then he gets murdered the next you know, 104 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: like two days later, So you can't ever answer any questions. 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, there was who was it? 106 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: Was it? 107 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: Neil Ferguson did a takedown of Darryl Cooper, was at 108 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: his name the fake historian that Tucker said was the 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: most important historian in America or something like that. A 110 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: point by point takedown of Daryl's reasoning about why the 111 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: Jews did this, and that why Hitler actually wanted blah 112 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: blah blah, and just utterly dismantled it. But in you 113 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: had to read the dismantling because the case Darryl Cooper 114 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: made sounds so authoritative, because he cites specific sentences from 115 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: specific documents or letters from one diplomat to a president 116 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: or something like that, and you need the explanation of why, oh, 117 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: that was like one sentence from one advisor who dissented 118 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: from the mainstream, and two sentences later he pointed out 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: why that probably wasn't true, but he thought the president 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: ought to be aware of it. That sort of thing. 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: It's you back to the whole incredibly frustrating notion that 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: if you're explaining. 123 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: You're losing. 124 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 4: It's very easy to make authoritative sounding claims that sound 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: very very reasonable, and you have to spend the time 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: to dig into them to debunk them. 127 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: And who has the time. 128 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 4: Especially, you know, given the deliciousness as Claire Layman responds 129 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: or described about conspiracy theories, and my final thought, it's 130 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: one of my favorite quotes from Aldus Huxley. 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: I've actually got a pinned to the studio wall. 132 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: The surest way to work up a crusade in favor 133 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: of some good cause is to promise people they will 134 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: have a chance of maltreating someone, to be able to 135 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly 136 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: and call your bad behavior righteous indignation. This is the 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats. 138 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: That fits in with the witch trial thing. A lot 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: really allowed people. 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: And anti semitism and uh yeah, and a lot of 141 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: Islamic fundamentalism. Right right before we take a break, Hey, Katie, 142 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: have you seen the video of the guy who rushes 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: on Ariana Grande? 144 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: I have? Wow? Have you seen that? Joe? Uh yeah, 145 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: I didn't think much of it. 146 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: I just saw an angle of it. Those different Well, 147 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: he didn't do anything, He just ran up and got 148 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: his picture taken. 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: But this finally crap. He's notorious for doing that at 150 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: red carpet events. 151 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: Just the point of claiming to have security at any event. Ever, 152 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: if that can happen, he ran God it looks like 153 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: twenty yards at least. He just kind of pushes past 154 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: the so called security guard who is probably making minimum 155 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: wage and had no weapon. If you want to get 156 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: to people other than the president, and that's even a question, well, 157 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: I was. 158 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: Gonna say, if the murder of Charlie Kirk and the 159 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 4: near murder of Donald J. Trump having convince you that 160 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: most security is security theater, I don't know what she has. 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: So a level of concercurity you're gonna have for a 162 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 3: movie star who was walking on the red carpet for 163 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: some movie premiere apparently none a guy. If he'd wanted 164 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: to kill her, he could have absolutely unrepresent killed her 165 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: before anybody could have stopped her. 166 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't even her security that got him off of her. 167 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: It was her co star that hold. 168 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: Her away around her that the security perimeter was wide, 169 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: The guy blows past. 170 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: That's a perimeter with no effort whatsoever. 171 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, then gets all the way to her and has 172 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: his arm around the four foot ten eighty pound woman 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: to get his picture taken. 174 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 4: Right, And you know, the maybe the most troubling part 175 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: of all that is why would we need so much security? 176 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: Right? 177 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 2: Why are so many people intent on hurting other people. 178 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: Right as it wasn't that many years ago that you 179 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: could walk up to the White House and knock on 180 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: the door and walk in if you wanted to. 181 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: We're debating whether teachers should have guns, and whether the 182 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: fences at the elementary school ought to be electrified, and yeah, 183 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: and a hundred others. 184 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: What's a decay of our culture and society which I 185 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: was talking about last week, which I blame on Elvis 186 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: and the Beatles. I think it all fits together, the 187 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: long handles. So what brought it? 188 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah or Jack your show 189 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: podcasts and our hot. 190 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: Links right now, it's a gender bending madness update. 191 00:09:52,360 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: So I kept hearing about this thing called the Loco. Yes, 192 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: we're great. So the bloom is definitely off. 193 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:13,479 Speaker 4: The transgender craze as the number of young people identifying 194 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: as transgender has been cut in half in like two years. 195 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: Just utterly ridiculous, but the hits keep coming. First, some 196 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: encouraging news from the Olympics. 197 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 6: The IOC will issue the band sometime early next year, 198 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 6: citing a new scientific review that found evidence men have 199 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 6: a permanent physical advantage over women athletes, even after hormone therapy. However, 200 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 6: the Guardian newspaper says the band could still be a 201 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 6: year out and that the IOC is facing pushback to 202 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 6: a possible ban on athletes who reported female at birth 203 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: but have male chromosomes and the same testosterone level as men, 204 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 6: also known as differences in sexual development. That would include 205 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 6: athletes like South Africa's casser Semenya, who won gold at 206 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 6: the London and Real Games before Track and Field's governing body, 207 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 6: World Athletics banned DSc athletes from competing as women in 208 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 6: twenty twenty three. 209 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: A new study, you say that shows that men have 210 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: a permanent advantage even if they undergo it, the transitioning. 211 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll be darned it says here they're bigger and stronger 212 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: than women. I'll be damned. Good thing they did that 213 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: new study. 214 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, in Atlanta, the poor cops are still trying to 215 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: figure out what woke, idiot policy they're supposed to be following. 216 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 7: Sarah Swinson is a regular at the Tucker Reed Kofer Library. 217 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 7: She says after she used the ladies room on October twentieth, 218 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 7: a decab police officer on hand for early voting confronted her. 219 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: He says, excuse me, sir, so misjendering me right away. 220 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: If you're not a woman, that's obvious. This is a 221 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: police matter. There are women and little girls in there, 222 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 5: and I have to protect them. 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: She says. 224 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 7: It ended up causing a scene in the middle of 225 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 7: the library, and she tried to de escalate. The next day, 226 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 7: she emailed library staff, who she says, reached out to 227 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 7: the Cab County Police. And I asked a Cab County CEO, 228 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 7: Lorrain Cochran Johnson about all of this. She told us 229 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 7: the county supports the LGBTQ community, calling this a teachable moment. 230 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 7: The county further clarified their official position is for library 231 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 7: patrons to use whichever bathroom aligns with their gender identity. 232 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: This is well trod ground, I realized, but it just 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 3: occurred to me. What is the argument for why if 234 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 3: you got a penis but you feel like a girl, 235 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 3: you should be in the girl's restroom as opposed to 236 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: in the restroom where the. 237 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: Trans women are women. That's a woman right there. That's 238 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: all argument. But we all shouldn't. That man with the 239 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: low voice, Jack, that was a woman. That's my favorite 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: part of the report is just the reporter was so 241 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: matter of fact. She she was in the bathroom. 242 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: She and then Sarah I used the restroom, the woman's restroom, 243 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: like I've been for months. I mean, he says, excuse me, sir, 244 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: So look he misgenders me. He says, you're not a woman. 245 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: That's obvious. I said, how dare you? The poor little 246 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: lady was offended. That doesn't seem out a line to say. 247 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: I believe you're a woman, and I'll call you she 248 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: and call you by your name. You're a woman, but 249 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 4: you got a penis, So all the penises are in 250 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: one room and all the vaginas are in a different room. Suggested, 251 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: just have innis and auti's you call yourself whatever you want. 252 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: But that is giving too much ground to the transgender 253 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 4: radical gender seria crowd. 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: I won't do it. 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 4: It's a decent middle ground, I suppose for a place 256 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 4: like Atlanta that's trying to be woke, but it's still 257 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: absolutely ridiculous. Anyway, again, ma'am, I'm sorry you were offended. 258 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: This is offensive. 259 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: Faith Blue hears okay. 260 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: Faith Smith was a twenty eight year old woman and 261 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 4: inmate at the Washington Correction Center. For women viciously attacked 262 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: a couple of months ago by a six foot four 263 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: inch male child molester, identify identifying as a transgender woman, 264 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: And of course Washington State puts men who claimed to 265 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 4: be women in women's prisons out of. 266 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 2: Some sort of psychosis. 267 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 4: And here's a gal who spent some time in the 268 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 4: Central California Women's Facility in Chochilla, California, one of the 269 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 4: largest women's prisons in the country, and she's writing about 270 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: how she saw firsthand how critical single sex spaces are 271 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: for the safety and dignity of incarcerated women. And she 272 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: says one case still haunts me. A male inmate isolated 273 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: in a men's prison for assaulting bunk mates was moved 274 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: into a women's cell with seven women. These women were trapped, 275 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: their voices ignored. This guy beat them, throw her to 276 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: the ground, punched and cooked her, kicked her relentlessly. 277 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm horrible. 278 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: I thought this aspect of it would get taken care 279 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: of her with a lawsuit. I thought that that would 280 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: happen early on. Somebody would sue a state get like 281 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: a half a billion dollars because you put a dude 282 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: in prison with me, and that'd put it end to it, but. 283 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: It hasn't yet. Takes a while. 284 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: It takes a while the work its way through the system, 285 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: I would agree. And all the poor kids mutilated, they're 286 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: actually who are caught up in the social contagion. 287 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: In the last several years. 288 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: There are still a hell of a lot of them 289 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 4: that are struggling to convince themselves they did the right thing, 290 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: because to admit otherwise would be utterly heartbreaking for everybody involved. 291 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: And so that's part of the reason for the delay 292 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: in that sort of suit these and there have been 293 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: a handful anyway of the kids who got whisked along 294 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 4: the activist pipeline and got their body mutilated and castrated 295 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: chemically and the rest of it, and now will regret it. 296 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: But those lawsuits will come. Got a couple more stories 297 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: for you. A federal judge is ruled that the Bureau 298 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: of Prisons, Oh this is a federal judge must provide 299 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: sex change procedures to a convicted pedophile who recently began 300 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: identifying as transgender. Brian Buckingham, forty seven, Morgan twenty one 301 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: years forty. 302 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: Seven just now determined. You know what I think I've 303 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: been chick. Oh down, I've been wrong for half a century. 304 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: Brace yourselves, folks. 305 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: He sexually abused his own ten year old son and 306 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: produced child porn with the. 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: Boy, murder him put him to death. 308 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 4: Shortly before sentencing, Buckingham began identifying as nanny, love him 309 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: to be female, then put her to death, and in 310 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: court filings, the judge said they have to provide gender 311 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: affirming treatments like hormone therapy because his sexual dysfunction or 312 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: his dysphoriat worsened his depression in suicidal thoughts, and Magistrate 313 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 4: Judge David Crystal ruled that yes, that indeed tax. 314 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: Doll happily refer to her as her as we give 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: her the sodium pentathal. 316 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: Excellent. I love that idea. 317 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: And finally, in disappointing news for New hampshiretes, the first 318 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: openly trans lawmaker in the United States who was hailed 319 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: as a trailblazer, is admitted to sickening child sex charges 320 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: involving young kids in a daycare. Former Democratic New Hampshire 321 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: Reps Stacy Marie Lawton, a biological male who identifies as female, 322 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: pleaded guilty to charges including child sexual exploitation of children. 323 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: Boston federal court, faces up to thirty years in federal prison. 324 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: You don't even want to hear what this guy did. No, 325 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't. 326 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: He's sexually confused and sick. That's taken a couple of 327 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: different forms, including I'm a girl now, it's a mental disorder, 328 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: gender bending madness. 329 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: Update oh Rough. 330 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 8: Lebron James and Steph Curry on whether they'll play at 331 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 8: the Olympics in Los Angeles in twenty twenty eight. Lebron James, 332 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 8: who will be forty three by that time, saying he 333 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 8: won't play. Steph Curry, who will be forty, saying it's 334 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 8: unlikely he'll play, but ads never say never. So there's 335 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 8: a stupid story for you. 336 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: They teased all throughout the eb's Evening News last night, 337 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: and I stuck around to the end. 338 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 2: It worked on me the tease. 339 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: Lebron James and Steph Curry asked if they'll play for 340 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: the men's Olympic basketball team. You're not gonna like the answer, 341 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: and I thought, well, I assume you said that that 342 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: they're going to say no, but they're old, and I 343 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: was thinking of the Olympics if it were this year. 344 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: I'd forgotten that it's in twenty twenty eight, so it's 345 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: three years from now, they're already old. What a stupid story. 346 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: Who is that for? 347 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 7: No? 348 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: Ered you in, No basketball fan who wants America to 349 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: win the gold medal wants a forty three year old 350 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: Lebron and forty year old Steph Curry on the team. 351 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: They're big stars. 352 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: Jack so Well, I like the tease where he said, 353 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: you're not gonna like the answer, because the answer is 354 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 355 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: ID like that answer. No. 356 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: One of the problems with the whole thing is that 357 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: the top four players, four of the top five players 358 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: in the world are all play for other countries. 359 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: So when you about that, they've stolen our game. Time 360 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: to declare war. 361 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: So I mentioned this yesterday essay in the New York 362 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: Times over the weekend about the whole affordability thing. The 363 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: a word that is going to be sold everywhere until 364 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: the next election, affordability, and both both parties want to 365 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: try to take the mantle on that and be the 366 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: champions of trying to make affordability better. That's what Trump's 367 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: working on every single day. This essay in the New 368 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: York Time, written by some fancy pants professor economists take 369 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 3: this idea. 370 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: That's kind of funny. 371 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: You're gonna argue about something that all economists say is 372 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: a terrible idea. Economists hate this idea, but it could 373 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: be a way out of the affordability crisis. Price controls, 374 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 3: oh lord, And it argues for why that would work. 375 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 4: Trying for the millionth time to push that fraud on 376 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: humanity unbelievable. 377 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: And they even in the headline put that economists have 378 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: decided this doesn't work, but let's try it again anyway. 379 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: Because it kind of sounds good. Who's with me? 380 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: So I've assembled a handful of stories about price controls, 381 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: specifically in terms of real state and rent. 382 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: It was funny. 383 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: I just found out that our remodel failed inspection. It's 384 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: no big deal because they'll fix it and it'll be fine. 385 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: But one of the things that the inspector said, now 386 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: you got to have this contractor has been doing this 387 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: or many many moons exactly where my house is. 388 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: Said I've never heard of that in my life. 389 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: That is an example of what it's like to build housing, 390 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, writ large. 391 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: But anyway, just to get this out of the way, 392 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: it's funny. 393 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 4: This Wall Street Journal headline hit me how building affordable 394 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: housing became the hottest game in LA And what happened 395 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 4: was the city decided we need more affordable housing, and 396 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: so they eliminated a lot of the BS red tape, 397 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: but only for quote unquote affordable housing, which means all 398 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: units are for tenants who make no more than eighty 399 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 4: percent of the city's median income, which somebody decided was 400 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 4: the proper number. More places across the US are experimenting 401 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: with similar policies to cut red tape for affordable housing 402 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: and effort to ease their yawning housing shortages. Well what 403 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 4: about unaffordable housing or nice housing or luxury housing. 404 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: Well, let me just jump in as no, somebody knows 405 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: nothing about this. First listen to this story. So most 406 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: regulations are around safety, some sort of you gotta you know, 407 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: use this sort of wood or plaster or cement, and 408 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 3: the roof needs to be this high, and blah blah 409 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: blah and all these different sorts of things. You get 410 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: all the gazillions of regulations everything like that, and you're saying, 411 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: if it's to build a house for someone who doesn't 412 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: have much money, we don't need to meet this standard. 413 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: But everybody else does. 414 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: Well, that leads me to believe that the standard is 415 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: not necessary in. 416 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: The first place. 417 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 4: Well, or it's the environmental crap and cal Cornians are 418 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: familiar with how this works. Okay, environmental reviews don't exist 419 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: to protect in the environment. They exist so unions can sue 420 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: and demand to share the work and more money. 421 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: Yes, my argument is the same if you're claiming it 422 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 3: was for the environment originally when you pass this regulation, well, 423 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: obviously it's not that important if you can waive it 424 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: for people under a certain income, right, right, So if 425 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: you want to build like a normal, regular development, it 426 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: takes you years, years and years. 427 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: But if it's affordable housing, we'll cut all the red 428 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 4: tape and you can go ahead and build it. What 429 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: possible sense does that make anyway? Moving on to this 430 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 4: great piece by the editorial board at the Journal, how 431 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: to shrink housing supply in Los Angeles the city tightens 432 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: its rent control law, Good luck finding an apartment. Yeah, 433 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: economic laws supplying demand is simple enough, but LA is 434 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: defying it again by tightening rent control laws in the 435 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: name of housing affordability. The result will be, as it always, always, 436 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: always is, fewer apartments and less affordable housing. City restricts 437 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 4: rent increases in properties built before nineteen seventy eight, which 438 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: for some reason is the golden year to the consumer 439 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: price index, and it can't even be more than eight percent, 440 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: even if the price index goes at eight percent, and 441 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: the rent caps applied to about three quarters of the 442 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 4: multi family housing units in the city. So last week 443 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: the city Council wanted to voteed lower the cap to 444 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: ninety percent of the consumer price index, which a maximum 445 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: increase of four percent, so landlords will no longer be 446 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 4: able to raise rents to cover an increase in electricity charges. 447 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: For instance. That means they'll have to. 448 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: Eat rising electricity rates caused by the state's destructive green 449 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: energy policies. But the in effect what happens is they 450 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 4: don't eat it because it's a fairly tight profit margin. 451 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: And so what happens is rent control discourages housing investment 452 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: and reduces supply. And if landlords can't raise rents to 453 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: cover their costs, including repairs, insurance, and utilities. 454 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: They won't maintain them. 455 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 4: They won't fix the leaky pipes or water heater, forget 456 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 4: about upgrades, forget about new developments. It doesn't make economic 457 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: sense to do it, so you restrict a number of 458 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: new units to zero, and you make all the units 459 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 4: that exist crappier and crappier. 460 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no I don't have rental property, but there's 461 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: no way I would ever decide to do that if 462 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 3: I lived in an area where I don't get to 463 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: determine the rent regardless of what market demand is or 464 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 3: what you know, energy. 465 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: Costs to become or whatever. Yeah. 466 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: Two more notes that I found really interesting. This one 467 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: is about a case. 468 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: And then, of course, if you already own the property, 469 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: why would you try to compete to be able to 470 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: raise the rent If you're not allowed to, you just 471 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: well let it be crappy, all right. 472 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: And if the city says, if you're unforeseeable costs in 473 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 4: the future go up ten percent, you can just raise 474 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: the rent four percent. Sorry, I'm thinking, no, I got 475 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 4: other places to put my money, because rental property is 476 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: risky in several different ways which we won't get into. 477 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: But no, that's just not nearly enough to justify the risk. 478 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: So interestingly, there's a lawsuit going on filed in New 479 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 4: York City by building owners challenging the city's rent stabilization law, 480 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: which is similar to what we've been talking about. 481 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: What they're saying is. 482 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 4: That rent fixing an unconstitutional taking under the Fifth Amendment, 483 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: because you can't just find me without me violating the 484 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 4: lawn breaking a specific lawn and the rest of it. 485 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 4: So they're trying to claim that at making me charge 486 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 4: subnormal rent or sub market rent is an unconstitutional taking. 487 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 4: The courts have rejected that on a number of different occasions. 488 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: I was corresponding with our good friend Tim Sanderfer about that, 489 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: but he says, it's plainly clearly an unconstitutional taking. 490 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: God always has been. Yeah, I don't know anything about that. 491 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: That's interesting. You shouldn't even have to get there though. 492 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 3: Again, like that headline in the New York Times, economists 493 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: think it's a bad idea. 494 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: It's been looked at for years, these ideas. 495 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: I remember the Washington Post several years back said sorry Democrats, 496 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 3: but it's just true. Rent control doesn't work. And the 497 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: Washington Post laid out why for their readers it's just 498 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: a bad idea. I know you think it's a good idea, 499 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: and I don't blame anybody. I think it's a good idea. 500 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: I didn't do it. I was young first time I 501 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: ever heard it. 502 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: But then when somebody explains you why it isn't well, 503 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: then you move on. 504 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: So the Supreme Court has been edging closer and closer 505 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: to being sympathetic to this claim. 506 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: I certainly hope they come around. 507 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: Final example, this one again from New York City Matt Miller, 508 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: writing for The Free Press, Why New York City has 509 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 4: fifty thousand, fifty thousand ghost apartments, Mom Donnie's freeze. The 510 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: rent pledge misses the real problem, the rent that landlords 511 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: can charge often doesn't cover their costs. And of course 512 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: he's got to begin with a particular anecdote. Normally, it 513 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: doesn't take too long for landlords like me to renovate 514 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: in an empty apartment and list it so that new 515 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: people can move in and start the next chapter of 516 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 4: their lives. But since this particular apartment is rent stabilized, 517 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: laws that were passed in twenty nineteen essentially prevent me 518 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: from doing anything with it except shutting the door and 519 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: keeping it empty. Strict limits on rent increases under the 520 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen laws have left an estimated fifty thousand apartments 521 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,959 Speaker 4: like this one vacant across the city. Because the restrictions 522 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 4: on what landlords can charge for these apartments often don't 523 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 4: even cover the cost of maintaining them. They become like ghosts. 524 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: It's like they don't exist at all. And he goes 525 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: into how Mumdani is going to make it even worse, 526 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 4: and then he goes into some of the particulars of it. 527 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 4: But the point is, if you rent your apartment, you 528 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: will be losing significantly more over the longer term than 529 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: if you just leave it off the market and hope 530 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: that the rents change in two years I'm sorry, and 531 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: hope that's the laws change in two years or five 532 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 4: years or whenever. So you have fifty thousand plus empty 533 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: apartments because it makes more sense for the owner to 534 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: keep them off the market than to rent them thanks 535 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: to rent control. 536 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 2: It is obscenely idiotic. 537 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 4: It just sounds good to dope be young people who 538 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 4: listen to Mom Donnie and people like him. 539 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: And it's been true forever. 540 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: I mean, as Jack said, it sounds good to young 541 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: people who don't understand how markets work, which is another 542 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 4: reason econ one oh one should be a required class 543 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 4: in every high school in America, if not middle school. 544 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 4: The easy Stuff or the simple stuff in economics. It's 545 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 4: super easy to grasp, and it's as true as anything 546 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 4: has ever been true. But people fall for the scam 547 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: over and over again because they think, Yeah, i'mvoting for 548 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 4: that guy because he's going to stick into those green 549 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: landlords and I can get a super cool apartment for 550 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: a lot less. 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 2: Than they're charging right now. Oh, it's too damn. 552 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: Everyone should come out of high school at least having 553 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: heard the arguments on both sides of price control, re 554 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: and control, that sort of stuff. But that's never going 555 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: to happen in government schools because the government crowd always 556 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: thinks this stuff is a good idea. 557 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 558 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 4: The greatest illustration of this is and this is a 559 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: conversation we had a number of years ago with Tim 560 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: Santa Fer from the Goldwater Foundation about gouging and how 561 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: gouging is a good thing, like after a hurricane, And 562 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: it's like going to the end of the argument to 563 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: make it absolutely clear why rent control's a bad idea, 564 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: the idea being all right, after the hurricane Florida, chainsaws 565 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: are going for quadrupled or normal price. If I'm Joe's 566 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: chainsaws in Georgia, I'm loading up a truck with every 567 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 4: chainsaw I can beg, borrow and steal. I'm driving straight 568 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: to Florida to get those fabulous prices for my chainsaws, 569 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: which floods the market with chainsaws, because that's where people 570 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: need them the most, and the price drops almost immediately, 571 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: and the people who need the chain saws the most 572 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: they go ahead and buy them, and the goods flow 573 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: to where they're needed. Soon the price is level out 574 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 4: and everybody's fine. You put a price control on chainsaws, 575 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: can be no more. The Gavin Newsom has done this, 576 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 4: the freakin disingenuous lion idiot. You put a price control 577 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 4: on chain sauce. You can only charge ten percent more 578 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: than the usual price. Here, I am in Joe's Chainsaws 579 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: in Georgia. I'm sitting there in my my Georgia chainsaw store, and. 580 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm not moving an inch. Why would I? So the 581 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: people in Florida can't get a damn chainsaw chain saw. 582 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 9: That's right, well, guys, it is such a fessive time 583 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 9: in New York City, isn't it? 584 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: Field greats. It's absolutely freezing out there. It is so 585 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: cold in New York City. 586 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 9: On my way into work, I saw a squirrel pouring 587 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 9: hot coco on his nuts. 588 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: It is so cold in New York. 589 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 9: I saw Wall Street stockbrokers putting with Zora and Mandani's cold. 590 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: He's just wounding. 591 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, So I'd like pouring 592 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: hot cocoa and his nuts. 593 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 594 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 3: It's often I can guess the funny donors like friends 595 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 3: of mine? Is this you, Michael, Now, it's got to 596 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: be Michaelangelo was in with fifty dollars Murkin me chindo Angelo. 597 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: That sure sounds like you. Yeah, you're the one who 598 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: brings up the murkin and the chindo. 599 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: Anyway, they're in for fifty bucks to help Scouts, or 600 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: particular help kids join Scouts, which is what we're trying 601 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: to do. Jack's Heart of Eating Foundation for the Blind 602 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: Bland rather for the Bland Uh in for fifty bucks. 603 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: I like that one. Can you see my privates? Can you? 604 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: Kenya donated fifty bucks? Can you see my privates? Ken you? Kenya? 605 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: Can you see my privates? Ken you? Kenya? 606 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: This is my son once coming out of the uh 607 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: bathtub when he was like four years old. The way 608 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: little kids are so happy to be naked out of 609 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: the bathtub is dancing around the table. 610 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: Can you see my privates? Can you see my privates? 611 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: Ken you? Kenyon? Was can you see my privates? 612 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: Ken you? 613 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: Kenya? If he did it now, I'd have to get 614 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: him into some sort of home before the cops got there. 615 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: Where the cops got there, Miss South Carolina. People don't 616 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: have maps, don't eaten five hundred bucks. That's a full 617 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 3: balpin right there. It's cost a whale five hundred dollars, 618 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: though it's pretty good. Dolphins our whales, damn it? Okay, 619 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: and then we'll do it total here in a second. 620 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: Got a couple of emails of note that I thought 621 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: were absolutely fantastic. 622 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: One we shared earlier, in which. 623 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 4: Al Nanymous was on a trip to the Northern Tier 624 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 4: Scout Camp boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada, which I'll 625 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: bet is amazing. Pack your bugs, bray, but had a 626 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 4: scout with us who was, let's say, used to living comfortably. 627 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: Day two, some of the other boys wanted to go 628 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: ten miles that day. No way we can go that far, 629 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: the boy said, and talked us out of it. Day eight, 630 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 4: when we were out there pretty deep into Canada, had 631 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 4: tube days to be back at camp, and well, the 632 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 4: same kid said, well, what if we pushed it to 633 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: this lake out here? It was twenty six miles. He said, 634 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: we'll be able to see more before we get back. 635 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 4: When I asked him what changed, he said, mister Anonymous, 636 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: I'm never saying I can't do something ever. 637 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: Again, that's just amazing onspire. 638 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: I've heard so many stories like that, including from my 639 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: son's own leader with some of the older kids that 640 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: some of them are already Eagle Scouts. They did a 641 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: big hardcore thing where they actually had a pack mule 642 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: to get him down to this canyon out and they 643 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: were really struggling with the mule, and in the way 644 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 3: that the Scouts do. None of the adults stepped in. 645 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: They had to figure it out on their own. That's 646 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: part of the whole learning leadership, learning to be self reliant, 647 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. And this scout leader and 648 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: my son's troop actually said you could see them grow. 649 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: He said, they came back, they almost looked taller coming 650 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: out of the canyon. 651 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 652 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: So, and then we got this note from a good 653 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: man and a good friend of the show, Matt Delancerveer, 654 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: who was an Eagle Scout, and he realized that that 655 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: meant more on his resume, certainly to one boss, than 656 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: Bachelor of Science. And then he says, to earn the 657 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 4: rank of Eagle. A lot of people outside of Scouting 658 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 4: probably know about having to earn merit badges and needing 659 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: new camping. 660 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: Et cetera. 661 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: What a lot of people might know not know about 662 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: is the Eagle Project. In the subsequent border review, the 663 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: Eagle Project is a massive organizational effort and the young 664 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: Scout is one hundred percent in charge. You need to 665 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: come up with the community service idea, get it approved 666 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 4: by several people in the Scouting organization as being big 667 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: enough and beneficial enough for the community. Then you need 668 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: to start planning. Contacting stores, vendors, organizations, explain your project, 669 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: convince them to donate often hundreds of dollars worth of materials, 670 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: depending on what the specific project is. You also need 671 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: to worry about getting enough people to show up and 672 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 4: donate their man hours to get the actual work done. 673 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 4: You also need to document everything you were doing pictures, 674 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 4: written descriptions to be able to present your project to 675 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 4: a border of view and explain it in detail with 676 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: the board, asking a bunch of different questions, all of 677 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: this being done by young fifteen to seventeen year olds, 678 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 4: and was by far the most daunting part of earning 679 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 4: my Eagle Scout. Needless to say, nothing in my four 680 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 4: years of college came close to teaching me world, real 681 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 4: world experience and responsibilities than my Eagle project. 682 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. I went to my first Eagle ceremony 683 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: a while back. I talked about it after I was there, 684 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: saw this kid that's in my son's troop get his 685 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: Eagle Scout and the story of the project, and then 686 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 3: like teachers and coaches and everybody that were there when 687 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: he got his eagle. 688 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: It's really really cool. 689 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 4: And kids need not get to the Eagle Scout level, 690 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 4: certainly to benefit enormously from scouting, but we want to 691 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 4: make sure every kid who wants to can and money 692 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 4: doesn't hold it back. So this is all about scholarships. 693 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 4: Got Armstrong e getdy dot com. 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