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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where

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Speaker 1: your epic sunset is just our Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Here in the Chris Westling podcast studio. Beside just a

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Speaker 1: lot of men, there's a lot of beef here. We

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Speaker 1: have Steve Weisch, the legend been all around the country,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond, and to my right, Nick Shook in studio

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Speaker 1: for the first time all season.

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Speaker 3: For everybody who watches on YouTube, who's tired of my

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Speaker 3: face being too big proportion? Everybody in here. Now we're

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Speaker 3: all in the same area.

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Speaker 1: Now you can see Nick next to me, which is

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Speaker 1: also too big.

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Speaker 4: You know what's great though, You can tell who lives

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Speaker 4: in Ohio. Yeah, he got on like a T shirt.

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Speaker 4: Ye right, and we're all like, man, it's like fIF.

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Speaker 2: We're all sweater.

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Speaker 1: And I opened the show talking about the Rose Bowl

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Speaker 1: because I saw this headline this this morning and it says,

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Speaker 1: you know, college football fans obsessed with epic at Rose Boys,

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Speaker 1: and they should be. Everyone is always like, this is

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Speaker 1: the most beautiful sunset, This is the most they should

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Speaker 1: have the national championship. Every week we have Nick Shook

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Speaker 1: out here supporting his Ohio State Buckeyes, although I thought

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Speaker 1: he was a Kent State guy, but.

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Speaker 3: Can't stay grabbage grow Ohio.

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Speaker 1: So he comes out and he sees a great game,

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Speaker 1: and it is great watching that, and I'm watching Kirk

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Speaker 1: kirk Street and he's just he's enjoying that sunset more

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Speaker 1: than I believe he's enjoyed any NFL action that he's

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Speaker 1: called over the last couple of seasons.

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Speaker 5: And there's a Pavlovian effect for that, and it.

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Speaker 2: Is true, it is like amazing.

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Speaker 1: And yet I was thinking, like, well, that's just Wednesday

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Speaker 1: in Pasadena, right, That's literally every day. And it made

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Speaker 1: me appreciate just that we're lucky to just live out here,

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Speaker 1: that that's just like a beautiful that is just kind.

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Speaker 3: Of every day. You know.

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Speaker 4: My wife is Jamaican. She says the same thing about

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Speaker 4: all the tourists to come and visit Jim for a week.

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Speaker 3: It's a great place. New Year.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's his Tuesday for right exactly. And I've been

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Speaker 1: appreciating that they have kind of cranked up. I feel

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Speaker 1: like the sunsets over the last two weeks have been

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Speaker 1: a special.

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Speaker 3: Aren't you Roman Lovely?

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, the winter Solstice was on the twenty first,

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Speaker 6: so we're getting them earlier.

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Speaker 3: Every gouty in the science and we're.

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Speaker 5: All out and able to appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, like during this time last year, when you know,

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Speaker 6: none of us really knew what the future was, I

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Speaker 6: started to like drive around La like we take the

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Speaker 6: kids to the beach.

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Speaker 3: Wow, like this is great.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna appreciate this because I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 5: know how long it's gonna be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone

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Speaker 5: is everyone is a blessing.

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Speaker 1: My family has been gone, so I've had the time

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Speaker 1: to go running at the beach a little bit more

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Speaker 1: and appreciate it. And it's all like people from outside

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Speaker 1: the country that are visiting here, and so it does.

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Speaker 1: It does make you appreciate one thing they don't tell

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Speaker 1: you about, you know, your family leaving you for the holidays.

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Speaker 2: You know, everyone kind of feels bad for me. It

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Speaker 2: feels a little bit like a vacation.

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Speaker 3: Careful, I have to admit, careful, careful.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's also it's sad, but it's also a

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Speaker 1: little bit like a vacation. All Right, we are not

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Speaker 1: on vacation today. Now she knows that we talk about

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Speaker 1: it she's jealous. Our Week eighteen preview, it's a weird week, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to go through the games, and I

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Speaker 1: decided let's go through it in chronological order this week

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Speaker 1: because that's sort of how our week is going to

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Speaker 1: be framed. So, yes, the best game of the week

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Speaker 1: and is undoubtedly Vikings and Lions, but we're gonna save

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Speaker 1: that for last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: In a take note, if you're one of those horrible

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Speaker 6: billionaires that have decided that social media timeline should not

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Speaker 6: be in.

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Speaker 5: Chronological yes, they absolutely should be.

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Speaker 6: We're doing this show for all of you who are

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Speaker 6: scrolling trying to find relevant information. We start for the

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Speaker 6: division matchup in the AFC North, the Cleveland Browns at

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Speaker 6: the Baltimore Ravens. The line is eighteen points in favor

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Speaker 6: of Baltimore's Steve the over undred forty.

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Speaker 5: One and a half. It's an ESPN game.

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Speaker 6: Chris Fowler, Lewis Riddick, dan Orlowsky, and Laura Rutledge on

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Speaker 6: the call. Baltimore does need this win, yep, to keep

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Speaker 6: pace if the Steelers, who will have a chance to

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Speaker 4: No, no, well, yeah, I mean they'll be the fifth seed,

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Speaker 4: you know, if that's the case. But look, that number

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Speaker 4: is so significant. I mean, what a slap in the

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Speaker 1: And we don't know if there's gonna be the zapp

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Speaker 1: Daddy out there on Saturday. But Kevin Stefanski didn't rule

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Speaker 1: out that your Browns shook would play both guys?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why not? Seem like that? Why not?

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, because you have another quarterback that's better

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Speaker 3: Actively not trying to win football games.

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Speaker 2: This is true tanking. It really happens. But this is

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, we've already seen two games of Dorian

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Speaker 3: He scored three points in a game that was actually

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Speaker 3: pretty winnable against the Dolphins, ends up not being winnable.

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Speaker 1: Did they cover eighteen against the Dolphins? Claybn is a Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know, honk over here and no, it's just a

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Speaker 1: new usage of the word honk. It doesn't even make sense.

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Speaker 1: But you were saying, how eighteen points is too much,

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's the division game. You're you're worried about it,

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Speaker 1: and yet Tyler Huntley almost covered eighteen last week.

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Speaker 2: It was twenty to three when the Dolphins played them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the Browns turned the ball over in the

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Speaker 6: red zone. They had opportunities there. And that's Miami. It's

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Speaker 6: different in Baltimore's defense has been playing better, but it

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Speaker 6: just feels like a touchy game where you want to

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Speaker 3: In the last week of the season. The Ravens is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and look, I don't like this cover,

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Speaker 4: they love what's going on defensively, namely, and Dean was

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Speaker 4: the deep balls over the head. But Kyle Hamilton, they're

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Speaker 3: The first half.

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Speaker 4: I think the starters played the whole way. They put

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Speaker 1: I like seeing Marlon Humphrey make the Pro Bowl. He's

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Their secondary has been better since they have our Darius

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see them sit there.

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Speaker 1: Henry a little bit Like you mentioned, Justice Hill, though

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't think you even have to worry about

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Speaker 3: the buy the whole Deontay Johnson didn't want to play

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Speaker 3: you played the Giants, but you dominate thirty five points

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Speaker 3: perfect time, and the Browns are not going to stand

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Speaker 3: a chance in this game. It's going to be an

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Speaker 1: I know we want to go at a faster pace

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Speaker 1: today with some of these games, but actually there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of intersting things in this game. I do want

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Speaker 1: to just mention with the Browns what's been going on

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Speaker 1: with the Deshaun Watson contract that they signed. I don't

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Speaker 1: We hadn't mentioned that on the show. That that's a first,

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Speaker 1: and then I haven't. I literally haven't seen you. So

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Speaker 1: I just want to ask, like, how was the Beyonce

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Speaker 2: Were you watch? Or oh yeah, I was on the

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No, no, I was on the field because I

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Speaker 4: Harbar or Demico. Ryan's coming out, So I'm right there,

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Speaker 4: like I'm fifteen feet from post malone. First off, he's

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Speaker 4: a lot taller than I thought. He's about sex, sex

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Speaker 4: three low, post malone, post malone. But it was it

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Speaker 4: was unreal, like I couldn't tell you like a name

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Speaker 4: of a song on a new album. But man, that

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Speaker 4: performance was ridiculous, super Bowl level. It was probably better

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Speaker 4: Jess Collins Entertainment, but it was incredible.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Justice for Cowboy Carter. I love that album.

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Speaker 1: I knew other songs, our producer Jason's Let's Move Please.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll spend as much time on this as we form.

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Speaker 2: But no, that's it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so good that Laurna and I were convinced that

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Speaker 6: Dolly parton was gonna show up.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I want to do her part in the song.

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Speaker 6: Let's stay in that division in the AFC North, Greg,

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Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals with an opportunity to complete the improbable

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Speaker 6: comeback that you first told me about on our preview

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Speaker 6: show several weeks ago that they still had hope. They

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Speaker 6: are favored by two points at the Pittsburgh Steelers, who

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Speaker 6: may have no reason to try. Joe, Troy and Lisa

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Speaker 6: on the call coming up on Saturday, how do you

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Speaker 6: see this one going?

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers can and will win this game.

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Speaker 1: If I have to pick, it's a coin flip. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna play all out. According to Mike Tomlin, they don't

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Speaker 1: care about that the division could be clinched earlier in

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Speaker 1: the day. I believe them because they've just been losing.

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Speaker 1: They've been a bad team. I think they want to

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Speaker 6: With the potential for the Steelers to play, with the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, petity.

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Speaker 1: And the Bengals team, I do think there is like

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Speaker 3: And they they let, they let.

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Speaker 3: And let's not forget this too.

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Speaker 4: Russ who doesn't turn the ball over, turns over what

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Speaker 3: Still's time.

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Speaker 2: That was just rus I like it. Holding those feats

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Speaker 6: Leave the Steelers in their opportunity against the Cincinnai Bengals,

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Speaker 3: No, it's not going to happen. The way that the

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Speaker 2: But and it is a.

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Speaker 3: Divisional game, and Patrick, you spoke about that earlier with

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Speaker 3: I don't expect this to be much of a contest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, first out, shout out to everybody in the five

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Speaker 1: You know, they've won five out of six or whatever

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Speaker 1: it is since they'reby I'm afraid of this offense. It's

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Speaker 2: No offense to Baker. This has been almost a joke.

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Speaker 3: I should have brought the hat right though, if you're

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Speaker 1: Irvin, now I feel bad that he didn't make the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's a long road back to look at

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out some Pro Bowl news along the way,

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Speaker 1: should be ugly.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get back and finish out the NFC South

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Speaker 1: in those early ten am West Coast Best Coast.

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Speaker 2: Games week back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the headliners of the early games are

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Speaker 1: the NFC South games because the Bucks need to win

445
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Speaker 1: obviously to win the division, but it just would be

446
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Speaker 1: so shocking if they didn't win that it makes this

447
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Speaker 1: Falcons game feel a little less you know, poppy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and we could get an opportunity to get to

449
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Speaker 6: get the spoilers. Yeah, Bryce and Adam Thielen of the

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Speaker 6: Carolina Panthers to play spoilers in Atlanta, where the Falcons

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Speaker 6: Steve are favored by eight points with an over under

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Speaker 6: of CBS forty eight on CBS Iron Eagle Charles Davis

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Speaker 6: and Evan Washburn on the call.

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Speaker 5: Can the Panthers bashed the Hopes after the Hopes got

455
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Speaker 5: bashed in overtime for Falcons.

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Speaker 4: First off, one of the Falcon's been an eight point

457
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Speaker 4: favorite Watchingry Young and the Panthers. That's going on here? Well,

458
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Speaker 4: here's here's they are watching, and they are watching Jean Robinson,

459
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Speaker 4: you know, and you know we're talking about Pro Bowls

460
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Speaker 4: right here. I won't say he's a snub, but he's

461
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Speaker 4: got to be one of those guys next in line.

462
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Speaker 4: If it weren't such a great year for so many

463
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Speaker 4: running backs, he would be recognized because what he does

464
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Speaker 4: is amazing. I don't trust the Falcons to cover division game,

465
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Speaker 4: but they're they're all over the place. But you know,

466
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Speaker 4: another player again for the Falcons, again, not a snub,

467
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Speaker 4: but a friend, Kaden Ellis linebackers. I mean, how good

468
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Speaker 4: of a player of a value guys is He's apps amazing.

469
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Speaker 4: I do think their defense and Kaiden Ellis, you know,

470
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Speaker 4: slows down Bryce Young and these guys at defense is

471
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Speaker 4: actually playing a little bit better, not great, but a

472
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Speaker 4: little bit better, no better. You're right, So Atlanta covers,

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Speaker 4: I don't. I just don't think it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: I don't know. If they do cover, I should say,

475
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Speaker 4: but I don't think it's it's gonna be mean anything.

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Speaker 3: I think the Bucks end up getting that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a question to you guys. So,

478
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Speaker 1: since Bryce Young re entered the starting lineup, PFF has

479
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Speaker 1: a stat all the time throws number one in the NFL?

480
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Speaker 1: Since then, is Joe Burrow number two? Bryce Young?

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Speaker 3: How about that? That's that's that's great to hear.

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Speaker 1: And so my question for you is who, if you

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Speaker 1: had to start your team twenty twenty five, would you

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Speaker 1: take out of this these two quarterbacks Michael Pennix or

485
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young? And you have to just base the decision

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Speaker 1: on all the info that you have today. I think

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Speaker 1: I would take Bryce Young just because I've seen.

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Speaker 3: More I mean sample size alone. Yeah, he's got more

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Speaker 3: games played. Penx has had two starts Pennix probablys the highest,

490
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure you can you want to elaborate on that.

491
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Speaker 3: I'm been so surprised, shocked, impressed by what Bryce Young

492
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Speaker 3: from when he got bench to where he is now.

493
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Speaker 3: It like at one point I was like, did he

494
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Speaker 3: have a body double in there for the first you know,

495
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Speaker 3: season plus two games? Because this is a completely different player.

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Speaker 3: This is the guy that they thought they were drafting

497
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Speaker 3: in the first round out of Alabama. He creates with

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Speaker 3: his legs, He's comfortable, he makes throws under pressure, the

499
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Speaker 3: anticipatory throws. Got a lot of Drew Brees and him

500
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Speaker 3: in that regard, and all that has come together to

501
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Speaker 3: make basically turn around the Panthers outlook. They don't have

502
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Speaker 3: to worry about quarterback anymore. I'm completely convinced this is

503
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Speaker 3: their guy. Adam Dieland has upped a lot with that.

504
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Speaker 3: You know, he's had a really good year, really good

505
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Speaker 3: back half of the year. But I'm super excited about

506
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Speaker 3: the future for them. Sunday, however, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But Penne does he have?

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Speaker 1: Like why why is Pennix a higher upside? He's a

509
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Speaker 1: year older, So that's part of it for me too.

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Speaker 1: Is that Bryce Young is a year younger and I

511
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Speaker 1: just have more data of him playing at this level

512
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Speaker 1: where it's Penix.

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Speaker 2: These last two weeks, I've been impressed.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I don't know, you know, he's

515
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Speaker 1: been a little up and down too with his accuracy.

516
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Speaker 2: As a prospect. There was a lot of different opinion

517
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Speaker 2: on Penix.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think what we've what we've seen right, especially

519
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Speaker 6: accuracy wise, is he's making the right decision.

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Speaker 5: But but there's perhaps footwork issues.

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Speaker 6: I know I'm no throwing guru, right, but some sort

522
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Speaker 6: of issue that's causing and I think he gets those

523
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Speaker 6: balls down where it needs to be a lot of

524
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Speaker 6: them were sailing, yeah, And but the difference where they're

525
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Speaker 6: separated right now is the way Bryce Young is managing

526
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Speaker 6: the pocket. Where you know, Caroline has made those improvements,

527
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Speaker 6: especially in the interior. I think the offensive line has

528
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Speaker 6: played better down the stretch, but we still see Bryce

529
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Speaker 6: having to manage the pocket make those plays, especially in

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Speaker 6: the run game where Michael Pennix Junior just doesn't have

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Speaker 6: that in his game right now. It doesn't mean he's

532
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Speaker 6: not going to be able to develop it, but it

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Speaker 6: seems like the rush gets to him quicker, and probably

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Speaker 6: that's right handed bias.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'm looking at.

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Speaker 6: It, but it's just Bryce when pressure is coming with

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Speaker 6: guys in his face, I feel.

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Speaker 3: There's a difference in processing, and I think that just

539
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Speaker 3: comes from experience more than anything.

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Speaker 1: This is a sneaky test I think for Raheem Morris

541
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Speaker 1: in the in the Falcons just taking care of this game.

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Speaker 1: This is a big game. I think they're there. I

543
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Speaker 1: think it's a dangerous game because Caroline is a division game.

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Speaker 1: They're just good enough to win this game on offense

545
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Speaker 1: and Falcons offense. They should take care of business, put

546
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Speaker 1: up a lot of points. Bijon should have a big day,

547
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Speaker 1: and they should just go out and win. I just

548
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Speaker 1: feel like that the offseason is gonna feel different, and

549
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Speaker 1: this will show me something. If they win this game convincingly,

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Speaker 1: that'll show me something because it is a big game

551
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Speaker 1: for them. If they stub their toe and they lose

552
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Speaker 1: a couple straight here, disappointing to end the season.

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Speaker 2: They just have a different vibe.

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Speaker 3: That's all I want to say about the helmet. Greg.

555
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Speaker 4: You can't fly with a bird with a wing down.

556
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Speaker 4: You're gonna go no place. But circles are down. You

557
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Speaker 4: gotta have them both up like the Eagles. But no,

558
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Speaker 4: here's my thing for Pennix, and this is talking to defensive.

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Speaker 2: Course, my favorite life.

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Speaker 4: It's an all inside beat rder thing for the Falcons.

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Speaker 4: But with Brian Shauk and talking defensive coordinators. They love

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Speaker 4: his decision making, they love the actors, everything we talked about.

563
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Speaker 5: But they're like, there's nothing wrong with it.

564
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Speaker 4: You really have to have the perfect roster and you

565
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Speaker 4: have to design for nothing more than his height. Yeah,

566
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Speaker 4: you have to build it like how the Saints did.

567
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Speaker 4: Would you bring guard to guard great guards in a

568
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Speaker 4: great center?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: With Pennis, I think he opens up your offense a

571
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Speaker 4: little bit. You seem to already with the Falcons, right,

572
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Speaker 4: You've got someone who can bounce it a little bit

573
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Speaker 4: of can boot leg a little bit. That's it's opening

574
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Speaker 4: up a lot of stuff for Bijon. I just think

575
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Speaker 4: you can probably build a little bit more. There's nothing

576
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Speaker 4: wrong either way. I would just take Pennix for some

577
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Speaker 4: things you could do with your offense and his versatility

578
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Speaker 4: you got.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have the right system around him. It's like

580
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Speaker 1: it's like with me, you gotta have chairs that go

581
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Speaker 1: up and down for my co hosts, like, we got

582
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Speaker 1: a difference, you go down for it, We.

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Speaker 5: Pop down a little bit.

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Speaker 6: There's has been improvement for the Carolina Panthers in terms

585
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Speaker 6: of rush EPA. Their defense not the worst in the

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Speaker 6: next gen Stat's era. Nice this season. Uh that's the

587
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Speaker 6: tw twenty four Dallas Cowboys.

588
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Speaker 5: Wow.

589
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Speaker 6: Actually the worst in terms of rush EPA on defense.

590
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Speaker 6: In there are our next team playing host to the

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Speaker 6: Washington Commanders greg who were favored by four and a

592
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Speaker 6: half points after paunching their ticket for the postseason game

593
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Speaker 6: on Fox. Adamme, Mark Sanchez, and Christina Pink There, the

594
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Speaker 6: Cowboys won't have their chance to spoil their division rival.

595
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Speaker 5: Do you think the Cooper rush has one more in them?

596
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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: This one seems too low. These two games talking about

598
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Speaker 1: them back to back. The lines are where they are

599
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Speaker 1: because of motivational differences. The Falcons obviously have to win,

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Speaker 1: and I think Washington it's a little lower because maybe

601
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Speaker 1: they're looking at and yet I think they are playing

602
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Speaker 1: to win. Dan Quinn has said it. They want to

603
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Speaker 1: get that seed for whatever that's worth. And I think Dallas,

604
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Speaker 1: even though they put up a great fight, they beat

605
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys the first time around. If anything, that'll make

606
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Speaker 1: the Commanders more ready for this game more alert. You

607
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Speaker 1: mentioned the rushing yards. They actually put up over four

608
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Speaker 1: hundred yards on the Cowboys last name, So even though

609
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Speaker 1: they lost that game, it's not like they weren't moving

610
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Speaker 1: the ball. And I would be much more surprised if

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Speaker 1: this game was close at the end than that Falcons

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Speaker 1: Panthers game. I think Washington Dallas if we were back

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Speaker 1: doing the survivor, you know, like, I think they win

614
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Speaker 1: by a couple of touchdowns and it's not close.

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Speaker 3: I think that with Cooper Rush and with the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: it's largely been bad, but every once in a while

617
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Speaker 3: it's kind of good, like that Buccaneers game kind of good.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't the only one this year. So it's tough for

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Speaker 3: me to say unequivocally that he's going to be terrible

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Speaker 3: and that they're going to lose this game. But if you're

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Speaker 3: just looking at it on paper, no matter the motivation,

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Speaker 3: Washington is the better team. They have the better quarterback,

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Speaker 3: they have the more explosive offense, and what I saw

624
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Speaker 3: from the Cowboys against the Eagles recently really made me think, oh, boy,

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about tickets to Cabo, this is

626
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Speaker 3: a team that might be going to cabover.

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Speaker 4: There was not a whole lot a lot of let's

628
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Speaker 4: win this one for Mike McCarthy in that effort now,

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Speaker 4: and that's what I'm interested to see. This game's in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: How many Commanders fans are in the stands?

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Speaker 3: Right?

632
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Speaker 4: We've seen other opposing teams that not name the Packers

633
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Speaker 4: over takeover that stadium this year, So I'm wanting what

634
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Speaker 4: the environment is.

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Speaker 3: I do like Washington this game.

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Speaker 4: I think Dallas is gonna be a little bit tougher

637
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Speaker 4: initially out of the gate than what we're thinking against Washington.

638
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: But I'm with you dan Quinn, knowing him talking to

639
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: some folks, or they're just trying to tighten up a

640
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: couple of things now. They're trying to get a little

641
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 4: bit better go into the playoffs with a young team

642
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: on a roll. They like what they're doing some things defensively.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they play Marshall Lattimore here.

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Speaker 1: I think they could like rest people if they have

645
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Speaker 1: a big lead or something. The way he made it sounded,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're playing to win.

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Speaker 3: I think they're playing to win. I don't think they

648
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Speaker 3: want to rest people.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you still want to get Jay and Daniels reps, right,

650
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 4: Austin Eckler might be coming back, right, so you may

651
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: want to do some things with functionality of the offense

652
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: that way as well, and based on the way Dallas

653
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: is playing, can get a little practicing, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: So I like Washington in this game four and a

655
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Speaker 4: half seams about right. I don't think it's going to

656
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 4: be a wipeout. I think Dallas is going to compe

657
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: a little bit. They got a few proud guys on

658
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: that team.

659
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: No seelamb though he is for the season. No Ezekiel Elliott,

660
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: who was released to give him a chance to sign

661
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: on with the playoff team.

662
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: Which it's good to want things, Greg.

663
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if that's every Look, everybody wants

664
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: a pony on Christmas. They don't always get pony. There

665
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: is an opportunity.

666
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 6: Cliff Kingsbury was at the mic acknowledging his desire to

667
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: be a head coach. Again we mentioned this historically bad

668
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 6: Cowboys run defense. The Commanders had negative thirty two yards

669
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 6: over expected in Week twelve, running the ball with their

670
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 6: running backs against this Dallas Cowboys defense, there's an opportunity

671
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 6: for Cliff to have some improved We're gonna throw it

672
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: fifty times. Well, we'll see. Because the rich folks making

673
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 6: them decisions like points. So no matter how they do

674
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 6: it well, Washington would like to get those. Let's go

675
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 6: to another game for another fan base that would like

676
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: some points. Their quarterback needs six hundred and seven yards

677
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 6: to throw for four thousand yards in industry, that's Kayleb

678
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 6: Williams of the Chicago Bears at the Green Bay Packers,

679
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 6: who were favored by ten. Greg Kevin Coogler, Moose Johnson

680
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 6: and Laura Oakman on the call. The Packers only lose

681
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 6: to very good teams. How do you feel about their

682
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 6: matchup against the Bears.

683
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Speaker 1: They want to go into the offseason to the postseason

684
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: with a better taste in their mouth in terms of winning.

685
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: But the motivation for this game is a little odd,

686
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: like they're playing for that six seven seed, but the

687
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Commanders have the pole position for it. So is it

688
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: something they could be scoreboard watching or they have Jordan

689
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Love out there for a quarter and a half and

690
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: they feel good about it. I feel like that's in

691
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: the cards in this game, and yet I feel like

692
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: they're just better than the Bears enough that they could

693
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: play backups.

694
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: And win the game.

695
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: We've seen Malik Willis, We've seen Emmanuel Wilson, like, we've

696
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: seen a lot of their players who don't play a lot,

697
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: like maybe get Luke Musk Graves some extra snaps.

698
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: So this is a merciful end our.

699
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: Our producer hythem, you know, because the scheduling isn't back

700
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: there today, but I was gonna congratulate. I just wanted

701
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: to congratulate them that just like this is over. This

702
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: just feels like the No fan base I feel like,

703
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: is ready for the season to.

704
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: End more than the Bears. Exactly. No, it's been. If

705
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: this was at like week fourteen, I'd be like, oh, man,

706
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: Caleb is in for one because the Packers defense is

707
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: gonna get after him. But if they are resting guys,

708
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: they're still gonna get after him. Because of how bad

709
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: the Bears offense is, it takes a little bit of

710
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: the juice out of the game overall. But what I

711
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: would like to see from the Bears if the Packers

712
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: end up playing, you know, some backups and everything else,

713
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: a little bit of momentum, a little bit of rhythm,

714
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: a little bit more than you've shown in the last month,

715
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: because that offense has been really really hard to watch.

716
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: It's not been fun. The defense has been up and down.

717
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: It's been better at times, but this is this The

718
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: Bears as a team are a viewing experience, not very fun.

719
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: So kind of because the Packers, like you said, seating wise,

720
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: don't necessarily have everything to play for it, especially if

721
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: they're scoreboard watching, we might get kind of one of

722
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: those a little bit of a lull of a game,

723
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: but overall, yeah, it's still a Packers, you know win.

724
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna be scoreboard watching because you know, they

725
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 4: want that six seed to come to LA and not

726
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: have to go to Philly.

727
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: As the seventeen.

728
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that that's a real important distinction there.

729
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ten. The ten's gonna cover Green Bay.

730
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: The way they play, the physicality that they play with

731
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: I love. I mean, even though they haven't beaten the games,

732
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: I love the way they're playing football.

733
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: They're going to take care of the Bears. They've been

734
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: in Cabo unfortunately.

735
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: But I like how Nick you said they need to

736
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: take a page out of Matt Eve refluce his book

737
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 4: and finish strong with someone.

738
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: Well except mana's the clock better? Let's not.

739
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: Oh, I want Caleb to manage the clock in the pocket?

740
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sixty seven sacks this season. Fifty one of

741
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 6: those sacks have been on plays that were longer than

742
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 6: four seconds.

743
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the pocket to make a mistake. Who cares

744
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: get rid of the ball?

745
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, whether it's whether it's a bad check down, a

746
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: wrong shoulder throw, a pick like make plays man, trust,

747
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 5: don't be scared.

748
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just no trust.

749
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: So there is something confusing about, you know, the four

750
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: seed and the Rams and everything. The Rams are not

751
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: playing their starters. So the whole idea of we want

752
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: to be at the seven to avoid the Rams, no,

753
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: to avoid Philly, to avoid Philly. Right, that makes sense

754
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: because the Rams are probably going to fall from the

755
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: three to the.

756
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: Four, So it's can they fall off the clocked in

757
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 5: Bucks I.

758
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: Believe will pass them if the Bucks or I know

759
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: the Bucks passed them if the Bucks win and the

760
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: Rams lose, which you know is well favored to happen.

761
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that the Ram we'll get to the

762
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Rams and everything, but that they don't really seem to

763
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: care about who their opponent is, or maybe they do

764
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: and they.

765
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: Have some master plan. I don't really understand.

766
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: Shout out to Eddrian Cooper, by the way, it crossed

767
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: my mind, if he had been healthy all season, he

768
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: might have been defensive Rookie of the Year.

769
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: That's how good he's been playing.

770
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: Very good. Something something for us to note, as you

771
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: know the there was fan voting right for the Pro Bowl.

772
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 5: It's something for us to canologe thirty three percent of

773
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl was the fan vote. If you're bemoaning

774
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: a quote unquote popularity contest, literally, that's what happened. Is

775
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 5: we get to our next game.

776
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 6: It is the New York Giants at the Philadelphia Eagles.

777
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 6: The over under is thirty seven and a half on CBS,

778
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 6: Andrew Cattle on, Ticki Barber, Jason mccordy, and aj Ross

779
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 6: on the call. Nick, where we will not have Saquon

780
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 6: Barkley playing in this game. Nick Sirianni making what I

781
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 6: believe is a correct decision. Yep, Eagles favored by three.

782
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 6: It's the I know Drew had the game of his life,

783
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 6: but three points.

784
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: That's why that's right there, because well, we see we

785
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: saw one game in which Drew Locke just lit it

786
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: up against the Colts team that was actually fighting for

787
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: their lives at the time and couldn't hold up. And

788
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: we also know that Vehgles are not going to be

789
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: playing Saquon. We've seen what they've done with Candy Pickett

790
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: and Tanner McKee. They put up a lot of points,

791
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: but on face value alone, not the strongest, most lopsided

792
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: matchup in one direction or the other, even if you're

793
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: looking at these two teams. But yes, those four points.

794
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

795
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm taking the Giants.

796
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 3: Is anybody watched the Giants this year? Taking it?

797
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: This lock, this Locke revival lock to neighbors like Montana

798
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: to Rice.

799
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: Season Tyrone Tracy's Roger Krug.

800
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: It may have to do with the fact that I'm

801
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: trying to catch up with Cynthia and our other show,

802
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: But I actually do think the Giants have a good

803
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting thing to wonder, like, is

804
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: the NFL is there enough parody that most team starters

805
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: would beat the other team's backups because the Eagles are

806
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna be resting everyone that they can. Lane Johnson Saquon Barkley.

807
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: We'll see about Jalen Hurts. That one is a little

808
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: confusing whether they want to get him back into the mix.

809
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: Well, a little bit.

810
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: There's no reason he would risk us to get some reps.

811
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: And then Saquon did speak about it over during the week.

812
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: Let's listen to Saquon.

813
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 7: I mean, he asked me if I wanted to play,

814
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 7: if I want to go for it. I said on Sunday,

815
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 7: you know, I probably didn't care too much for it.

816
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 7: When I slept on it, it was like it was

817
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 7: an opportunity to imploint my you know, my name in

818
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: the football history. May never get another opportunity like that again.

819
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 7: So I'm down, but at the end of the day,

820
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 7: like I don't care for putting the team at risk.

821
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: And he went on there and said he was down.

822
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: I liked how honesty was that initially he didn't care,

823
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: then he slept on it. He really he wanted it,

824
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: and so he was a little down and some of

825
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: the offensive linemen were down. But he went on to

826
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: say how how he totally understood it as well, and

827
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: he'll be there to support his teammates and the right decision.

828
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 4: I think because he had tasted that playoff air very often. Yeah, right,

829
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: you know he wants to be ready. Look, this is

830
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: this is interesting because you know we also have the

831
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: big picture of play Brian Dayball. You talk to people

832
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: around the NFL like day Ball is a really good

833
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: head coach. But the way they finished, how are you

834
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: going to be able to sell to a frustrated fan

835
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: base who's tired of this stuff that he needs to

836
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: come back, him and Joe Shane coming back next year.

837
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 4: I could see Dayball, but Joe Shane coming back next year,

838
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: especially getting rid of Saquon, I don't see that happening.

839
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: But then you know it's usually a package deal.

840
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: Yep, there it is. So you know we've heard.

841
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: John Marra say, hey, he doesn't want to get rid

842
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 4: of me, he wants both of them back. That was

843
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: well before they started playing. They've been in Cabo too.

844
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: Those hotels in Cabo can be loaded with some NFL

845
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 4: rosters right there. So if they if they come out,

846
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: and they especially if they take a ba al to

847
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 4: Philadelphia their backups, I can't see how you can make

848
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 4: an argument to keep Brian table again. He's people will

849
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: tell you though, he is a very good coach. This

850
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

851
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: It has stupid because on the flip side, I can

852
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: totally see the scenario where Drew Locke has back to

853
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: back good games and they win too in a row,

854
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: and in John Marra's mind, for whatever reason though, that

855
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: just makes him want to keep keeping much more. And

856
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: I think I kind of think that is what I

857
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: think will happen, because ultimately I'll take one team starters

858
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: over the other team's backups if I have to chase

859
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: it's close.

860
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 3: Probably it's just the old Eric Mangini. Win the last

861
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: four games of the year to save your job for

862
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: no reason. The next year, my name's A two Sam,

863
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: which was the king of that. I'll never forget.

864
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 1: Doune Moron went one and one as the Jaguars interim,

865
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: but they were against good teams and the eight week

866
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: eighteen was a win and they kept him off of

867
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: that that it just was spicy.

868
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, if the roster size was ninety, I could see it.

869
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 6: We're we just get to fifty five the seventeen prior

870
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 6: squads if you include the international player pathway.

871
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: Uh, it's just it's true.

872
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 5: Still going to be very good Eagles playing in this game.

873
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: As they have to be, especially on defense.

874
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: They're there, they're backups, and you can only rest so

875
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: many guys. You're right that it could be tough, but uh,

876
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go Drew Lock, let's uh shock the world.

877
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, and we will be back.

878
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: We'll wrap up those early games, get to the late ones. Eventually,

879
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: we're going to get to that Sunday night football game.

880
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

881
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Should have mentioned Tanner McKee is the likely starter because

882
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is hurt for the Eagles, and that reminds

883
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: me of different quarterback situations, different injuries. By the way,

884
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the Browns have announced we already did this game by

885
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: one another, but as we're taping, the announced Denzel Ward,

886
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: David and Joku, Jordan Hicks, Pierre Strong, Jerome Ford all

887
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: out for Saturdays. Out the tank is on and it's

888
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: different in Buffalo. But we did get clarity during the

889
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: week about the quarterback situations here. Patrick Josh Allen is

890
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: going to start, but it's expected that he will just

891
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: kind of keep his streak going and sit pretty quickly.

892
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: Drake May will also start for the Patriots, and.

893
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 6: There was some consternation coming out of New England about

894
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 6: why why I haven't played Drake May in this game?

895
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: With the goal ultimately being what you can accomplish in

896
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 6: April is we get to the matchup between the Bills

897
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 6: and the Patriots, the Bills favored by just two, Mitchell

898
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 6: Trubisky potentially going the way after Josh Allen secures the streak,

899
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: Steve the over under thirty eight. Spirodidas at of Marshal

900
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 6: Letta and A. D. D. Kinkwala on the call. The

901
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 6: Patriots came close to shocking the Bills a couple of

902
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 6: weeks ago. What happens here, Well, they also got absolutely

903
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 6: mopped at the game. I was hap by the Chargers

904
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 6: the other day. I got a forty burder hung on him.

905
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: Look, the one thing I saw on the page is

906
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: Drake Mays is legit right, He is the real deal.

907
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: But some of these other guys, it was not a

908
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: lack of effort. They got their heads kicked in by

909
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: the Chargers. There's just no fuel left in the tank, yep.

910
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: And so again I think they're gonna come out and

911
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: give a valiant effort, but it's just they don't have

912
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 4: it to sustain for four quarters. So can they pull

913
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: the upset against the Bill's backups. Maybe I don't think so.

914
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: This two point seems fine to me. I like Buffalo

915
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: in this game, just because I just honestly being upfront

916
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: and center with the pages. They're just not there. They

917
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: are unleaded with less than a quarter take of fuel.

918
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and it's not even just fuel too, it's

919
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: just a lack of organization. Like the entire offensive operation

920
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: is not great. I know, you start Cole Strange's first

921
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: start at center last week, but everybody around him, they

922
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: can't even get the snap count down. I mean just

923
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: it was to the point where I sent Greg at

924
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: textan I was just like, their whole operation is a mess,

925
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 3: Like there's nothing good doing here. That's why I'm shocked

926
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 3: to just see the two points. But then again, Bill's

927
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: playing backups resting. Oh recently they took him to the brink.

928
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: That factors in there as well. But yeah, I mean

929
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: the Patriots, that's another team that's going to Cobo. And

930
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: that's another team that's going to Cobo and may not

931
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: even have the people in charge, the old chaperone in

932
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: charge to the drip.

933
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: I think they'll be Yeah, if I had to guess.

934
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: I think I think they'll be back as well. Maybe

935
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: they change the offensive coordinator. That's just a guess. I

936
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: think a win here would help, and I kind of

937
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: think it'll happen. They've been every other week. It's very consistent. Actually,

938
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: if you look at the last eight weeks of the Patriots,

939
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: they have one week where they get absolutely rolled, and

940
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: then they've always bounced back and responded. The next week

941
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: they almost beat the Rams, which I consider, you know,

942
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: almost beating a good team is a win for them.

943
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: They played well that week.

944
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: Same thing happened against the Colts, where they dominated that game,

945
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: found a way to lose, But that's a good game

946
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: for get rolled. The next week, come back competitively, play

947
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: against the Bills, and with the Bills, you know, being

948
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: out there that they're resting everyone, that's a pretty big advantage.

949
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: Gives girod Mayo a chance here. Shout out to Christian

950
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: Gonzales did not make the the Pro Bowl. I think

951
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be an All Pro though,

952
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: first or second team. I really value the opinions of

953
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: Johnny Ledyard, Ali Connelly, you do a right podcast. They

954
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: they thought he's right there with Certana's the top two

955
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the entire NFL right now and getting slept

956
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: on a little bit, and you.

957
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: Just ask, hi, you just look at physically.

958
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: To me, he's maybe the most physically impressive cornerback there

959
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: is out there, no Christian Just in terms of next

960
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: to just in terms of what you test on and athletically,

961
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm putting them right there.

962
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm putting them right there on the table.

963
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: Nope, we have Josh Allen's not going to get to

964
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: make a little final MVP case.

965
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: But that's fine, he doesn't need to.

966
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 5: Speaking of MVP cases, there's two quarterbacks in the NFL

967
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 5: who have a positive e p A on tight window throws.

968
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: One of them is Lamar Jackson. The other Drake may.

969
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: Wow, but I know we passed it. But I we'll

970
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: see what happens after Monday. But I actually think Lamar

971
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: Jackson is the favorite for the m v P.

972
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: Now.

973
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: I I think the way this this thing is gonna

974
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: finish that Lamar is going to have such an overwhelming

975
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: statistical case that he wins it even people.

976
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 4: Don't know voters, voters like he's got two fatigue.

977
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: We'll see.

978
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: It happened to Lebron for years vibes based award.

979
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: Let's get parameters so it all makes sense.

980
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 6: And I know Kate takes the quote unquote fun out

981
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 6: of the MVP discussion, but who's having fun? We have

982
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 6: to cut down very good football players to lift another

983
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 6: one up. I get tired of anyway, well said, Let's

984
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 6: go to our next game in the AFC South. It

985
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 6: is the Jacksonville Jaguars against the Indianapolis Colts, who are

986
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: favored by five.

987
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 5: The over under is forty four. Jason Benedti, Brady Quinn,

988
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 5: and Sarah Coustack on the call. Greg, we have seen

989
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 5: Mac Jones and Brian Thomas Junior surprise folks, especially down

990
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 5: the stretch. What are they doing against the Colts defense

991
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 5: that was powerless to stop Drew Locke with like the

992
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: gym of Siderak, with like the Infinity Gauntlet on his hand.

993
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: I hate picking this game. That this game counts equally

994
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: for our picks for the season.

995
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: Five points is too much.

996
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: I agree.

997
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: Could be the last game for Doug Peterson. He expected

998
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: that it will be doubt it would be the last

999
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: game for Shane Steichen, but crazier things have happened. Could

1000
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: be the last game for Chris Ballard as the GM.

1001
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: It's mac Jones's seventh start this season. By the way, Wow,

1002
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: been a lot of mac Jones. I don't have much

1003
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: more to say on this.

1004
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if you just talk about mac Jones specifically,

1005
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: he had some nice throws Park Washington with a great

1006
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: touchdown catch toe tap last week, and then there was

1007
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: a lot of misses. And that's basically the mac Jones

1008
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 3: experience right now. It's a gross game. It's two AFC

1009
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: South teams that are eliminated. This is what this division

1010
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: produces from time to time, especially in Week eighteen. So

1011
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: I feel the same way. This shouldn't count the same

1012
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: in picks, and yet it does. If I had to

1013
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 3: lean I lean Coltz because if the Jags are expected

1014
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: to fire their coach, what really are they playing for

1015
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: other than the fact that they have a budding star

1016
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: in Brian tom It could matter for Ballard.

1017
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: What do you think about Ballard? Do you think he's back?

1018
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 5: Steve?

1019
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: No, No, They've they've got to shake up something it's

1020
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: not And I'll get to it in the second first time.

1021
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: I like Jacksonville in this game to pull the upset.

1022
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: And here's why. There's like because the culture not paying attention,

1023
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: but there's just such murmuring chaos. Anthony Richardson came out

1024
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: this week and said like he couldn't play last week

1025
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: because he had to crawl, he had all these back issues,

1026
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: and then throws the sweetener on top of him, explaining

1027
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: that it may be chronic. Oh no, I've been dealing

1028
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: with this since eighth grade. Just mean, what, like, what

1029
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 4: in the combined medical evaluations are we missing?

1030
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: Right?

1031
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the case. Or is he saying like

1032
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: why is he saying this? So with everything he has

1033
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: done to be in and out of the like honest

1034
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: to a fun he's honest a fault and it's all true.

1035
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: But it's like, oh my gosh, we got this now

1036
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: to deal with. They can't get into Cabo. They're already

1037
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 4: an Acapolca, all right, they're they're there. I like Jacksonville

1038
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 4: to finish out with a dub, you know, send Doug

1039
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: out Trump Balki out.

1040
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: With a nice man.

1041
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: You're kind of convincing to me here.

1042
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: I was stunned.

1043
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: I read that was like flipm P, like why I

1044
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: also can kind of just see them like win one

1045
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: for Doug. It's almost the flip side of not having

1046
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: much to play for it. They've I've watched these Jaguars games.

1047
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think that I like that they kept dug

1048
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: this whole time. They've been good, They've been playing hard.

1049
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: It's not they're just not good.

1050
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, at Indy with the Colts being favored by five,

1051
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 6: after what we saw from this defense, I think we

1052
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 6: can ask questions about Ballard and Stich And this is

1053
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 6: the end of the road for Gus Bradley for sure. Yes,

1054
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 6: on that side of the ball. And it's kind of

1055
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 6: it's Schrodinger's Jags at this point. I don't really know

1056
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: what to expect, but going on the road feels different.

1057
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 6: To play in this last game in Duval, so I've

1058
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 6: got confidence. And whether it's whether it's Flacco or Anthony Richardson,

1059
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 6: just one one positive memory for this Colts team that

1060
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 6: did have a chance but kind of wilted at the end.

1061
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Flacko will throw for a good amount of yards.

1062
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: Hopefully he avoids turning the ball over. Yeah, hopefully he

1063
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: can move around more than he hasn't. He's showing his age. Yeah,

1064
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: like he just he doesn't navigate the pocket. Will a

1065
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: nim jumped on.

1066
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 6: Him an opportunity for one more one last job for

1067
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco coming up in twenty five h checks as

1068
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 6: we get to the Houston Texans at the Tennessee Titans.

1069
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 6: The Titans favored by one and a half in Nashville

1070
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 6: against the Houston Texans, who are going to the Wow.

1071
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 6: The over under is thirty seven. Tom McCarthy, Jay Feely,

1072
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 6: Ross Tucker and Amanda Ballyonis on the call. We've seen

1073
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: a whole lot from this Texans team, some good.

1074
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: Probably more of it bad, shook. Why are they not.

1075
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: Favored against the Tennessee Exactly? They're gonna play two quarterbacks here,

1076
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1077
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the problem. Like, there's a lot of

1078
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 3: teams that are like, oh, we're going to the playoffs,

1079
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: like we can rest our, guys. The Texans don't have

1080
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: the privilege, not because of seating, because of performance, correct.

1081
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean that game they played against the Ravens was

1082
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: absolutely embarrassing. That is a bottoming out of a team

1083
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: that's going to the playoffs. There's a lot of teams

1084
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: that we talk about going to the playffs that you

1085
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: don't want to face. Everybody wants to play in Houston, Texans,

1086
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 3: and they're saying it out loud. Yeah, they're not afraid

1087
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: of them. Their offensive line's been bad all year. They

1088
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: can't generate much the run game unless it's anccasional Joe

1089
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Mixon one hundred and twenty five yard game.

1090
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: C J.

1091
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: Stroud. The wear and tear mentally of not trusting your

1092
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: offensive line and losing two of your top receivers very visible,

1093
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: to the point that he's missing checkdowns. He's not even

1094
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: under pressure. Very concerned about this team. Probably one of

1095
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: the worst playoff teams in their current state going into

1096
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I can remember since the Steelers, God was

1097
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. And it's really a

1098
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: bummer because this defense has played so well, but they've

1099
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: also taken injuries on that side of the ball. As

1100
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: it pertains to this game, I could see why they're

1101
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 3: not favored. I'm really worried about what we're talking about

1102
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: next week. They're gonna smoke the Titans. Yeah, I think

1103
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna smash Well.

1104
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: No, they're not favored because Demiko Ryans has made it

1105
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: sound like he's gonna play his starters for a little

1106
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: bit and then take him out. No, that's why they're

1107
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: not favored. That's the extent.

1108
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: Well correct, He's gonna play him, Demiko is gonna play.

1109
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: Then maybe he pulls him after halftime. I don't think so.

1110
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: I think he understands exactly what you're talking about. They

1111
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: have not played good football.

1112
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: CJ.

1113
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 4: Shroud is like you nailed it. He is not trusting

1114
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: no anything with the operation of this offense. He has

1115
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 4: got to get it going. When the Ravens is started,

1116
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: it's a double team Nico Collins or jump in with

1117
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 4: you know, with leverage points he had no go to.

1118
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: He's got to trust his other guys right here, regardless

1119
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: of who they are. The fact that they've had an

1120
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: extended time for him to have some practice reps with

1121
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: these guys should help.

1122
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: I think they come out. I think they just put

1123
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 3: it on the.

1124
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 4: Titans because he's else Shier back on defense. He's gonna

1125
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 4: help in the with their run defense. I think they

1126
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: get back on track. What does it mean for the

1127
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 4: following week, I don't know, but they'll they'll start to

1128
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 4: look a little bit better than the good Titans seems

1129
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: we've seen.

1130
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm picking the Titans.

1131
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: I think if the Texans are playing all out to win,

1132
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: it's close to a coin flip. I just think that's

1133
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: the level the Texans are at now, and I don't

1134
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: think they'll they'll play to win. That's what that number

1135
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: on that. That's what the number is about. Is that

1136
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: when the coach says they all got to I told

1137
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: them all to be ready.

1138
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: They got to be ready. They're gonna go out there.

1139
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think he's gonna leave him out

1140
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: there because if they're playing all out to win, it's

1141
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: not They're just not capable of stomping on a team.

1142
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be close.

1143
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: And I just think then you insert Davis Mills into

1144
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: the mix and.

1145
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: That's gonna happen.

1146
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: So that's how they that's how they build those casinos,

1147
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: you know, getting everyone to bite on the Texans and

1148
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: you know they know they don't gave us.

1149
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: Funny and that Titans. Well, that's the thing. You have

1150
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: a lot of faith in Mason Rudolph here or we'll

1151
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 3: love us. We're gonna see both of are we what they.

1152
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 5: That's what I've seen out of Nashville this week.

1153
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 6: It's you know, it's the the will Levis evaluation has

1154
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 6: gone and then stopped, and then it's coming back.

1155
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 5: There was injuries and then they weren't.

1156
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: But the one reason I would go Texans on this

1157
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: is because the Titans really lean into this old Oilers

1158
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: uniform stuff where they always wear the home Oilers uniform

1159
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: and sends out the logo on social now whenever they

1160
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: play the Texans, and that's such bad juju.

1161
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: I just feel like they deserve to lose.

1162
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: They did lose this game last year in overtime when

1163
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: they did that when they wore the Oilers uniforms, and

1164
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: they're like like sending it out.

1165
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: They're like sticking in their face that they're cheapest.

1166
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: Owners have no idea who the Houston Oilers.

1167
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: Well, I know it doesn't affect the players, but it's

1168
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: just it's like it's like cosmically you're cheap. At the time,

1169
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: owner didn't want to pay for a great fan base

1170
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: in Houston and bolted, and now you're sticking it in

1171
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: their nose a little bit.

1172
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

1173
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: I don't like them.

1174
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know how strangsh that was the thing

1175
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 5: was lined up.

1176
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's time for the game of the week for

1177
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 4: some of my Draft Kings sportsbook.

1178
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 5: The most impactful game in the AFC this week it

1179
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 5: is the backups of the Kansas City Chiefs Steve playing

1180
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: against the Denver Broncos at home. Favored by ten and

1181
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 5: a half. They win, they are in the playoffs. Jim Nance,

1182
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: Tony Romo, and Tracy Wolfson on the call. Can the

1183
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs backups step in here and bounce the

1184
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 5: Broncos from the playoffs?

1185
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: Yes, this is an egregious point spread. Yes, I agree

1186
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: with that you guys are under selling Carson Wentz plus.

1187
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 4: But here but here's no here. But here's something. Here's

1188
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 4: something you have to say. What do we would talk

1189
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: about the Chiefs when they weren't playing well all long?

1190
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 4: Their offensive line?

1191
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Right?

1192
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who can they sit Tony?

1193
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 1: Supposedly they're going by the way, dude, he's a stun

1194
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: I think I think he's in battling a little bit

1195
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: of some nagging injuries.

1196
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 3: He said.

1197
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: Tony is among the guys. Chris Jones is one, but.

1198
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 4: I could see Tony. He's sitting and they put in

1199
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: the rookie from Brigham Young who started there. But they

1200
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: can't sit a ton of guys. They just don't have

1201
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 4: the depth. They've taken too many hits. But to me, though,

1202
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: this is more about Denver. Do they have the playoff medal?

1203
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 4: I have loved everything I've seen pretty much had a

1204
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 4: BONEX this year. I think he's got it. Does everybody

1205
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 4: else in a game like this? Can they stand up

1206
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: Chiefs backups or not? I I Am not going to

1207
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: be stunned if Kansas City number one seed in hand

1208
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 4: Beast Denver and Denver door remains open for the Cincinnati Bengals.

1209
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: It makes me more trying to get the Bengals into

1210
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 4: the playoffs, you know, emotionally, Yeah, but I just this

1211
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: seems like one where Denver, Denver, Denver, and then they

1212
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 4: just come out just do not play a great game.

1213
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I don't like to carry over

1214
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 3: one result to the next because I think that the

1215
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: Broncos suffered a heartbreaking loss that they probably could have

1216
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: just taken to a tie last week. I don't really

1217
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: think it matters that much. But matters more in this

1218
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: game is coaching. And it speaks to what you just

1219
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: said about the chiefs Andy Reid being the greatest currently

1220
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: active head coach in the NFL who has done a

1221
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: masterful job with the team that is weak in the

1222
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: offensive line, that missed their running back for a good

1223
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 3: portion of the season, that lost, you know, two receivers,

1224
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: and just got Hollywood Brown back recently, and now they're

1225
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: kind of ascending. Some of these guys might not play,

1226
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: but the guy who pushes all the buttons is still there.

1227
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 3: It's a lot of faith in Carson Wentz, though. And

1228
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: that's where I get a little worried, because the Broncos

1229
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: are playing for their lives. They've had this great season

1230
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: under Sean Payton. This is why we hired Sean Payton.

1231
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks, take all that hate that we got when

1232
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: we drafted in. We're gonna shove it right where you

1233
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: now because we are going to make the playoffs right now.

1234
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: We're going to make the playoffs by beating a team

1235
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: and adding some fuel to the fire of this rivalry.

1236
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: And boy would be really really embarrassing and disappointing if

1237
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 3: he lost.

1238
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: Boyd if you never saw what Andy Reid did with

1239
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: Doug Peterson back in the day in those final games

1240
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: of the season.

1241
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: They have rested guys in one games in the past,

1242
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: so it's not unprecedented. The Broncos overall, I don't think

1243
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: are playing their best football of the year. Nicks was

1244
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: up and down. He had some major ups last week,

1245
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: but I think he's been a little up and down

1246
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: as the season ends. This was a close game though

1247
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: that the Broncos probably deserved to win the first time around,

1248
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: And so that informs me that these two teams know

1249
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: each other well. And I know the Chiefs have owned

1250
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: this matchup, but the matchup this year was close. With

1251
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: the starters in and with so much to play for

1252
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: it it's hard for me to go against the Broncos here,

1253
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: Like defensively, you just feel that they would have a

1254
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: lot of answers. And when they say the players that

1255
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: are sitting for the Chiefs, you know it's only you're right.

1256
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: You can only sit so many.

1257
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: But then you see the names, and the names are

1258
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Trent McDuffie, Tony Patrick, freaking Mahomes, the running

1259
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: both running backs apparently are are gonna sit Trent.

1260
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: These are all their best players.

1261
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: So it does if you if you can't win Denver,

1262
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: you certainly don't deserve to be making the playoffs.

1263
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: It's some a JP Ryn in a revenge game well,

1264
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 6: there it is Harris the Broncos advance blitzing on thirty

1265
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 6: eight percent of dropbacks.

1266
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: It's one of it's the third highest rate.

1267
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: Probably would blit him at fifty percent on Sunday.

1268
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 5: Why not? What but an opportunity for Carson Wentz to

1269
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 5: go out there and perform revive. We've seen Baker and

1270
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 5: Sam have revivals revival a few years ago.

1271
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: No, okay, different, I can't wait. I can't wait to

1272
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 4: hear this Jimmy g argument later.

1273
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but to not do that, but it's not dead.

1274
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Let's put it in that uh little shout out to

1275
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: Quinn Minors. I don't think there's a ton of Pro

1276
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: Bowl snubs, but people that I trust, Brian Baldinger being

1277
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: high amongst them.

1278
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: But hease.

1279
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: Quinn Minors has an argument to be the best guard

1280
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: in football, full stop, like first team All Pro, Like

1281
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: he is the guy now and sometimes with offensive lines,

1282
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: it takes a year for the voters to catch up. Like,

1283
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: I think he has a decent chance to make All

1284
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Pro but not Pro Bowl, which happens to some guy sot.

1285
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, just shout out to Quinn Minors.

1286
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: Good shout out, all right.

1287
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Speaker 2: The crown is yours.

1292
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 6: Looking forward to that game, of course, because there's gonna

1293
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 6: be a few teams watching it paying attention, including the

1294
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 6: Miami Dolphins who would like a Chiefs win.

1295
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 5: They are favored by one point greg against Aaron Rodgers

1296
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 5: and the New York Jets with an over under of

1297
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Speaker 5: thirty nine. Joe Davis, g Rag and Pam Oliver on

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Speaker 5: the call. We saw Aaron Rodgers throwing bounce passes last week.

1299
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Speaker 5: How do you feel about the Finns by one.

1300
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: I just assumed I would come up with a way

1301
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: for this Jets team to lose this game, because they're

1302
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: the Jets, and that's just it's happening. And yet toront

1303
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: arm Armstead left last week, has not been seen at

1304
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: practice all week. They put Kendall Lamb on injured reserve,

1305
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: who actually had a great game a week ago, mostly

1306
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: blocking Miles Garrett. So you're down your two starting tackles

1307
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Speaker 1: if Armstead isn't playing and Tuas sounds like he's a

1308
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: long shot as.

1309
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Speaker 3: We hate this playing Okay, snoop, so that's.

1310
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Speaker 1: Tough, Like, yeah, you could beat you could beat the Jets,

1311
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be I'm not I'm not just

1312
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: chalking that up as a win one.

1313
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: You know, one point that feels.

1314
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: About right that this is a It's crazy how important

1315
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: this game is because the Dolphins could be playing on

1316
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: wild card weekend. Everyone is just mentally counted them out,

1317
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: and yet it's a realistic opportunity. They're they're more realistic

1318
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: to me than than the Bengals because they're ahead of

1319
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: them in line.

1320
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's yeah, what matters more than anything

1321
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 3: in that tie breaking scenario. But I am actually stunned

1322
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: that I even have to consider the fact that I

1323
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: that the Dolphins might not win. And I think a

1324
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: lot of it is because it's new Puntley and the

1325
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: way that he has gotten a couple months of time

1326
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: with this offense and has a much better understanding of it.

1327
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: He got the ball out incredibly quick last week against

1328
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Speaker 3: the Browns. He's fully capable of leading into victory. And

1329
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Speaker 3: I also have no faith in the Jets, like we're

1330
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: again another team going to Cabo or beyond who knows,

1331
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: because they're they're headed Towarden Office's and change. I've written

1332
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: the same story about Aaron Rodgers talking about if they

1333
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: want me back, I'll come back. But I don't know

1334
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: for the last month, like the vibes are bad, his

1335
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: body language is bad. I just cannot put any stock

1336
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: in this team. They all know that change is coming yea,

1337
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: and the Dolphins have everything to play for, so I

1338
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: don't care if it's Huntley or Tua. I just believe

1339
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 3: more in them and the way they've played recently.

1340
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Jets are going to Sarasota, oh,

1341
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 4: by the way, instead of Cabo. I think they're saying

1342
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 4: domestic a little bit older tirement communities Aaron Sarasota.

1343
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: I have no faith in the Jets none.

1344
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 4: I mean they just I mean the stuff bout Garrett

1345
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 4: Wilson Aaron Rodgers back. I may want out like what

1346
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: they they want out as badly as anybody.

1347
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they they broke some ground this week. They are

1348
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Speaker 1: the first NFL team to ever interview an NFL Daily guest.

1349
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Speaker 3: It is a studio guest.

1350
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera interviewing for the head coaching jobs. So we're

1351
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: trying to build our own coaching tree here at NFL Daily.

1352
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: It's a strong I was amazed that was that was cool.

1353
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan is apparently.

1354
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Speaker 3: Getting told GM and so you might not run it

1355
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Speaker 3: back that.

1356
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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's not mention that so we can build up

1357
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Speaker 6: coach rivera l Yeah, because I kind of this.

1358
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Speaker 3: Won't be Ron. I will say this. I will say this.

1359
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be Ron's last interview. It

1360
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: shouldn't be. No, I don't think it's I think it's

1361
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: gonna have several.

1362
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Speaker 6: The The problem for the Dolphins last week. The leading

1363
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 6: rusher was Tyler Huntley. Yes, he got in the end zone.

1364
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Speaker 6: He had fifty two yards on the ground. This is

1365
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 6: the number thirty two rushing of fish and see offense

1366
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 6: in the NFL, and coach Mike Mack has struggled to

1367
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 6: get his team to be able to run the ball.

1368
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 6: The Jets defense actually improving against the run in the

1369
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 6: past few weeks. The problem might be over on the

1370
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Speaker 6: offensive side of the football. Let's go to a team

1371
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 6: that isn't having problems on offense right now. All they

1372
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 6: needed was to get run up and done up by

1373
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 6: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1374
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Speaker 5: Since then, the Chargers on fire. They are favored by

1375
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 5: four and a half points against the Las Vegas Raiders

1376
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 5: and aoc at quarterback. It's on CBS Kevin Harlan, Trent Green,

1377
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 5: Mellon and Collins. The over under forty one and a half.

1378
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 5: The Bolts have been rolling, shook. Do they keep rolling

1379
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 5: against Las Vegas?

1380
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. And that's not even I'm not taking

1381
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: anything away from the way the Raids have played in

1382
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: the last couple week because I think they've played much

1383
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: better football. I would like to see it save Antonio

1384
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: Pierce's job, but probably not. I still just can't go

1385
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 3: against these Chargers, and I think I've been the guy

1386
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: who was throwing cold water on them when we recap

1387
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: their most recent games, because I was like, well, you're

1388
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: playing the Patriots. But what we saw from in their

1389
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 3: last few performances is finally giving Justin Herbert a little

1390
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: bit time to throw the football down the field. Now,

1391
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 3: granted he throws a lot of those the lad mccackey,

1392
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: but Stone Smart's starting to get involved a little bit more.

1393
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: His offense itself is just becoming more well rounded with

1394
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: the return of JK. Dobbins and against the Raiders. I

1395
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: don't know, it's just on paper strength versus weakness or

1396
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. I just I feel very comfortable

1397
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: with the Chargers in this game.

1398
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: Charge is gonna gonna. I wouldn't be surprised if Harwall

1399
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 4: plays these guys all the way through.

1400
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says he is.

1401
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 4: They want to get another team openly says we want

1402
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: to get that number five seed. Yeah, there's seating thing

1403
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 4: in play here and getting JK. Dobbins back. You saw

1404
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 4: some of the positivity again against the Patriots.

1405
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: They want to continue to get him going.

1406
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 4: They know how important he's going to be if they

1407
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: advance in the postseason. So I think this good offensive

1408
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 4: line is gonna keep working more.

1409
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: Ladred, I mean, love me and that let's practice on Wednesday.

1410
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: Do wonder if they'd ever consider being a little safer

1411
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: with him, who's had a lot of knack.

1412
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a game guy, and he gets tagged.

1413
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: And they play on Sunday afternoon, and they're watching that

1414
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: Saturday Bengals game with a lot of interest rooting for

1415
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals so that they could possibly move up and

1416
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: pass the Steelers. Now, if the Steelers win that, they'll

1417
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: know that. Does that affect their plan? Hard to say.

1418
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: Harbaugh says that they're playing all out and they're playing

1419
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: so well offensively that I tend to think they could

1420
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: do what the Texans would like to do.

1421
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: But I don't have faith in.

1422
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: Which is just play so well early that you can

1423
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: rest some guys, and I think they could absolutely do that.

1424
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 5: So big opportunity for the Chargers in Las Vegas, and

1425
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just glad that we get to see

1426
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 5: Aidan O'Connell, this new version of Aidan O'Connell, greg that

1427
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 5: likes to scramble, Yeah, get back there and make place.

1428
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, even he even broke double digits once.

1429
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: The subject of my least hot take ever, which is

1430
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: that Aidan O'Connell is a perfectly capable NFL backup and

1431
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: is going to have a solid, like nine to ten

1432
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: year career, which is a great result for a fourth

1433
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: round pick.

1434
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 2: So like, let's stop picking up old Adon O'Connell.

1435
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 5: Not his fault.

1436
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: He's on this team and has to play a lot.

1437
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: I do wonder if Antonio Pearce wins three straight games

1438
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: to end the season under the old regime, I would

1439
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: think that would keep him the job. Now that we

1440
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: think Tom braid out, Tom Brady is this shadow owner.

1441
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: That might not save him.

1442
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: It just it just depends on who they can get.

1443
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 4: You know, you hear a lot of conversation about Mike

1444
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 4: Rabel going there, and that's okay.

1445
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: That would that would make a lot of sense in

1446
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: terms of friendship and experience and all that. All right,

1447
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: let's take one final break. We're gonna go through a

1448
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: couple of NFC West games and then get to the best.

1449
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: Game of the weekend. Maybe if the entire regular season

1450
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 2: vikings lines.

1451
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: Back on NFL Daily.

1452
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Anthony Richardson crawling around on the ground, Yeah.

1453
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: Back injury.

1454
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: But he's not the only one trying to play hurt.

1455
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: You know, Nick's got a little sniffles.

1456
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: No, it's not sniffles. It's just legal. You a bigs.

1457
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: You see it from the Cyberg sent falls. You don't

1458
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: got a long runway the little Rose Bully cod I'll

1459
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 3: tell you what I earned.

1460
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I thought that was risky. It's fine.

1461
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: I know you love coming out to LA used to

1462
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: live out here. Yeah, I thought it was risky and

1463
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: then they put it on. They put it on them

1464
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: for you, I have to.

1465
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 3: I mean I made a promise. I saw them losing

1466
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: Columbus one time to Oregon and I was like, if

1467
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 3: they get back there to the Rose Bowl and play them,

1468
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm going no matter what, there it is.

1469
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 4: Oh, it's a commitment, Yes, loyalty. You know, Ryan Day's

1470
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 4: the best coach in the NCAA.

1471
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: Right now, there you go. That's coming here for Columbus Ohio,

1472
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: pending results in the next couple of weeks. Let's let's

1473
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 3: hold off on that.

1474
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 6: The Seattle Seahawks six and a half point favorites across

1475
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 6: the street at SOFI Stadium, Steve against the Rams the

1476
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 6: over under thirty eight and a half. Kenny Albert, Jonathan Bilba,

1477
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 6: Megan o'levy on the call, where we've seen the variants

1478
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 6: of outcomes for the Rams, the Seahawks would like to

1479
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 6: have been in a better position here.

1480
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 3: Can they just come out and finish the season? Show?

1481
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: Well, Patrick, I want toss this back to you since

1482
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 4: you were talking about backups. You' viving there career in

1483
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 4: Jimmy g Jimmy Garoppolo. It's going to be throwing to

1484
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: Xavier Smith. Guys like that for the Rams.

1485
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 3: Jordan Wittington.

1486
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Whittington shout out to Rams preseason game attending big

1487
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: early season.

1488
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, well it's it's the theme. Rest is the theme.

1489
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 6: Jimmy was dealing with a whole lot of stuff for

1490
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 6: the past few years, injury wise, coming in and out

1491
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 6: of games. We heard it from Saquan explaining his decision

1492
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 6: right where post playing.

1493
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 5: The game was like, no, I'm good. I just played

1494
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 5: a game at running right and then he went to sleep.

1495
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, maybe I could do it.

1496
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 6: He ultimately listens to postgame Saquon, I think rest, Jimmy

1497
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 6: G is a factor here and the Seahawks win this game.

1498
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 6: But six and a half feels feels a bit rich

1499
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 6: for me considering that we get arrested James Richard Garoppolo,

1500
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 6: who multiple times this season I forgot was on this team.

1501
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: Same when they showed he was suspended to start.

1502
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: When they showed the Kyra and Williams Man of the

1503
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: Your video, which was really cool, Stephen Jackson came in

1504
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: for and Jimmy G's at the front with like a

1505
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: cool new haircut. I was like, wait, what's he doing

1506
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: there is the best of my guy, right, Like, I

1507
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: like your theory, and I'm gonna take your theory and

1508
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna raise you one. I think it's a tough matchup,

1509
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: but I think there's a higher percentage chance that Jimmy

1510
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is starting games for this Rams team next year

1511
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: than then the public would.

1512
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 5: That's hotter than I thought you were gonna make that

1513
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 5: searing well.

1514
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 3: Just now higher. Now.

1515
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's likely. I'm just saying it's more likely.

1516
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: I think that people would think and that maybe he's

1517
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: part of their future as like a one B or

1518
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: whatever competition who knows if Stafford was.

1519
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: It gives them options and then contractually if they if Stafford,

1520
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: then one of the part ways there's a way to

1521
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: do it pretty think it out. Yeah, it's they're not

1522
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: strapped to him by any means because of money, So

1523
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 3: that makes sense. There's also the the idea we just

1524
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: saw it this past year. Sam Darnold played one game

1525
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: for the Niners last year, goes to the Vikings and

1526
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: now look at what he's done. If people like to copycat,

1527
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: then they would maybe do the same thing with Jimmy

1528
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 3: except he might not even have to change teams. So

1529
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: now I was not on board ninety seconds ago, and

1530
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm completely sold I could be bought.

1531
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: He is turning thirty four next season, so.

1532
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: He played too many full seasons either, like sand Now,

1533
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: so I, uh, well, we'll continue this conversation at a difference.

1534
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 5: In a one game scenario. Though, Jimmy g wrestler Gino,

1535
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 5: you know he got that, he got that special offseason workout,

1536
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 5: which is why he was not playing the first Patrick.

1537
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 3: We got to put this one on greg No here.

1538
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: Well, we get a lot of back Some things play

1539
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: their backups and there's not like a crazy drop up.

1540
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: I feel like the Rams are a very star heavy,

1541
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: top heavy team where they're if they're resting their best

1542
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: players on both sides of the ball, then the backups,

1543
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: it might not be pretty, and the Seahawks team.

1544
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 3: Is pretty good.

1545
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: I think I would have maybe taken the Seahawks to

1546
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: win this game if the Rams were playing. So yeah,

1547
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: they lose on the fifth tiebreaker, but I don't think

1548
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: a seven season in this game is some massive disaplain.

1549
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: If they win this game, they've got ten wins, and.

1550
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: Their defense they got there's some proof of concept to me.

1551
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: For Mike McDonald as a head coach, you want to

1552
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: show what do you bring to the table, because I

1553
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: don't think every head coach brings something to the table.

1554
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: And I think the way I've seen this defense come

1555
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: together and kind of turn into the defense that he

1556
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: wants it to be, I see the proof of concept.

1557
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: So he's shown me something, that's all.

1558
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 5: And with another offseason to get more of his guys in.

1559
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'll be the key in.

1560
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 6: The second year. I mean they were having to do

1561
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 6: it with the trade deadline. They go salvage Ernest Jones,

1562
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 6: who's been great, rescue him.

1563
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: Pay him.

1564
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to pay the man though, pay him.

1565
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 5: He's been great, a solid addition and will stay in

1566
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 5: that division. Because the San Francisco forty nine ers are

1567
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 5: at the Arizona Cardinals, who are favored before the over

1568
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 5: under forty two and a half Chris Myers, Mark Schlaier,

1569
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 5: Jen Hale, the Seahawks could have got some help from

1570
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 5: Trey mcbod's mc brad's face mask. A week ago, Greg

1571
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 5: now Kyler and company at home trying to finish the

1572
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 5: season strong against the forty nin ers team they would

1573
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 5: also like to finish the season strong, but they're both

1574
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 5: Sam Lucas bound.

1575
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a shame.

1576
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: It's a shame because that Rams game would have been

1577
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: a perfect Week eighteen game too. I feel like to

1578
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 1: figure out who's the thirteenth fourteen team instead, that's dead.

1579
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: This one's dead. Kyle's bad years. It's weird.

1580
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: He's made the conference title game four times in the

1581
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: other four seasons. The forty nine ers are twenty two

1582
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: and forty two, so when there they've gone bad, they

1583
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: haven't gone eight to nine or nine and eight. They

1584
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: haven't won more than six games. And I don't think

1585
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: they'll win this one because they think that, you know,

1586
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: you're probably playing Josh Dobbs here over brock Purdy and Kyler.

1587
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: I think they would love to finish out. I think

1588
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: an eighth win actually would mean something to them, and

1589
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: it should. They have improved since last time.

1590
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: I do like the Cardinals in this one for that

1591
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 3: reason as well, and it's also it would feel good

1592
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 3: for the Arizona Cardinals to go into the offseason with

1593
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 3: a solid performance against the Niners defense that's just not

1594
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 3: as good as it's been in past years. Now they

1595
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: got who fung it back relatively recently and he's been

1596
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: one handed one handed, yeah, and he's still made a difference.

1597
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: But like, the one thing I've wanted from the Cardinals

1598
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 3: is just consistency. I don't want you to be in

1599
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: third and long and you got to make Kyler go

1600
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 3: make a hero play, and they've struggled to find that

1601
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 3: in a lot of these games. They feel very much

1602
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: like their record, But it would feel a lot better

1603
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: going in the next season at eight to nine than

1604
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: seven and ten, even if it's only one game difference,

1605
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 3: because of the bright moments from the season and what

1606
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: you can build on after year two with Jonathan Gannon

1607
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: and plus the fan base.

1608
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 4: I think people who follow the Cardinals are you are

1609
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 4: tired of them tapering off on.

1610
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: The back half of the season.

1611
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 4: So if they were able to finish this game against

1612
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers team again, they're going to be game.

1613
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 4: They're just beat up, right, they just don't boast on

1614
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 4: these guys. I don't think they're playing, so you know,

1615
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 4: we'll see. But Kyler, he's I think I think, frankly,

1616
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 4: for Kyler's sake, he needs to have a good game.

1617
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 3: He has looked so upset in the last few games,

1618
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 3: like just not like just dejected, like.

1619
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: Just what he wants it and he can't quite figure

1620
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: out how to get it done. And he keeps saying

1621
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: to reporters and of the broadcast because next year, I'm

1622
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: gonna run more. Now I want to start running more.

1623
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: And it got me thinking, like what is the issue

1624
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: with Kyler? And I just don't think he has as

1625
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: good of a feel for what he should do to

1626
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: make himself the best. That's some of the great quarterbacks,

1627
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: like a game manager essentially. I thought I always believe

1628
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler could have had a great career. I think

1629
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: he was bad at this. I don't think he knew

1630
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: what he needed to do in certain situations to bring

1631
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: out the best in himself and his team. I think

1632
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: there might be like a little bit of Kyler with that,

1633
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: where he's always trying to self correct what mistake he

1634
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: made in the past. Like he's obviously a good player,

1635
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: but he's always like I'm pushing hard in that direction.

1636
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna try to do this. Now I'm gonna

1637
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: che that.

1638
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: And maybe he doesn't have like this natural feel that

1639
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: the great somehow have of like when to push. It's

1640
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: hard to put words to it. But does that make

1641
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: sense to you?

1642
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know what are we saying about

1643
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 3: Jad and Daniels.

1644
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 4: He's decisive, right, he knows when to run and we're

1645
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: we're especially seeing it down the stretch here, he's taking

1646
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 4: the ball and going with it.

1647
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: Jane's a great example of someone who I feel like

1648
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: has a great feel of what to do at different points.

1649
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 4: Well again, and he's not gonna wait for the free

1650
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 4: rusher and Cliff Kingsbury scheme to get to him, make

1651
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 4: that move before he gets there.

1652
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: Where's Kyler?

1653
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 4: I think he's like, Okay, I'm gonna show I'm a

1654
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 4: sure guy who can play from the pocket. Well that's

1655
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 4: not working, so let me run. He's been through a

1656
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 4: couple of different things. He's had such a mashup of

1657
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 4: a roster, Like they still have not had an offensive

1658
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 4: identity with him there and the first couple of years

1659
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: of Cliff I think they did, but they just don't.

1660
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 4: They still haven't had it yet. Is that on him?

1661
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 4: Is that on just you know, the roster around him?

1662
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: Is that on the coaching staff? I think that's something

1663
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: that kind of leads to him being into something I'm.

1664
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: Looking forward to him next year and another year in

1665
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: this offense.

1666
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of promise here.

1667
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, the consistent thing has been inconsistency, yes, throughout his

1668
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 5: tenure in Arizona, and so that that would be my

1669
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 5: hope would be to see like a cohesive unit coming back.

1670
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 5: We'll know more about the search bar on defensive side

1671
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 5: at the game, and they won't be the search bar anymore.

1672
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 5: We'll know these guys, some of them playing really good

1673
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 5: football in their first year in the NFL, and the

1674
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 5: offense gets another opportunity to add some talent and we

1675
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 5: can see and not be reaction and overcorrection to everything

1676
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 5: that goes wrong as a season.

1677
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that starts just at

1678
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: the ground level, taking what the defense gives you, and

1679
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: I think he tries to go too much in one

1680
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 3: direction to the other, and that could be the first

1681
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 3: step forward to fitting in within this scheme and how

1682
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 3: they accentuated strengths going forward the entire season.

1683
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 5: The entire Week eighteen NFL schedule leads to one thing.

1684
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 3: Let's get it.

1685
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 5: It is a game for the number one seed in

1686
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: the NFC between the Minnesota Vikings, and Sam Darnold and

1687
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 5: Jared Golf and the Detroit Lions were at home, favored

1688
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 5: by two and a half the Overarmers fifty six and

1689
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 5: a half. Since sight s Rico Chris collins Worth Melissa

1690
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 5: Stark on Sunday Night Football, this is this is this

1691
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 5: is why we do this, Shook.

1692
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: This is actually the first matchup in NFL history between

1693
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: team two teams with fourteen wins twenty eight combined wins,

1694
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 3: highest ever previous high twenty five. So you want to

1695
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: talk about importance, it's not for the division title or

1696
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,440
Speaker 3: the NFC's top seed. It's also arguably, at least statistically,

1697
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 3: the most important regular season game in NFL history.

1698
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, I love this is so tough

1699
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 4: to call, but I like Detroit because it's at home.

1700
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 4: I think the atmosphere is going to be insane because

1701
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 4: we know what thetoy has been through organizationally, but knowing

1702
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 4: that the playoffs could come through the Motor City I

1703
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 4: think means a lot. I like the way Dan Campbell

1704
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 4: went to that game again San Francisco, saying, understand what

1705
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 4: we're about now. You talk about the standard being the standard,

1706
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 4: this is the standard, yep. And you know, they had

1707
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 4: a tight game with the Vikings earlier in the season Minnesota.

1708
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 4: The way it's playing now is frightening, with Jordan natisony

1709
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 4: Mercy the way he is, Hockinson being a much much

1710
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 4: more integral part of the offense. The two and a

1711
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 4: half seems good because I think this is going to

1712
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 4: be a great game. And the way that the Vikings

1713
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 4: generate takeaways, we cannot underestimate that, whether it be the

1714
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 4: strip sack, fumbles, force off of the run pressures that

1715
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 4: they generate, and the interceptions. I think that's going to

1716
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 4: be the fact that if the Vikings generated takeaway or two,

1717
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 4: they win if the Lions are able to protect the ball,

1718
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 4: which they've done a good job of. By the way,

1719
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 4: can we talk about how amazing Jimir Gibbs looks now

1720
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 4: that he's the Belle Kyle Yeah, oh my god.

1721
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: Right.

1722
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 3: I got a little nervous in that game though. There

1723
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 3: was one run to the side of the where I

1724
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: was like, oh, go down, healthy please.

1725
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: I think I think he's huge for them in this game.

1726
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: That I do think there is a way that they're

1727
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,879
Speaker 1: great players just have to be greater than the Vikings

1728
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: great players like they need Gibbs to be special in

1729
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: a way that Aaron Jones is great but is not

1730
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: as special as Jamir gets. And they need their offense

1731
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: who is averaging I just did some scratch math here

1732
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half points per game the last month.

1733
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: So I was like, how do you get an over

1734
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: under a fifty six? We have one team that's averaging

1735
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: thirty eight points a game, So as their defense has collapsed,

1736
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: they've needed to keep scoring, and they've done it against

1737
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: decent defenses like the Packers and the Bills and the

1738
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, Bears like those are. It's not like

1739
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: they're sieves and they just need that greatness to be better.

1740
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm almost surprised their favorite because to me, they feel

1741
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: like the underdogs now feel I guess so they feel

1742
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: like the underdogs, like the Vikings have clearly been better,

1743
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: I think late in the season than the Lions, and

1744
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: yet there is something intangible here that I just believe

1745
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: in with the Lions that's like more than football. It's

1746
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,520
Speaker 1: this journey that they've been on and it's them overcoming

1747
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 1: a lot in different scenarios and it's just like I

1748
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: feel like I'm on Dan Campbell's team and I have

1749
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: to believe in them because of that, although the Vikings

1750
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: have all of that too, except maybe better players.

1751
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 3: Overall, it's crazy.

1752
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 5: In terms of watching what the issue has been. And

1753
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 5: I know Sam Donald has come through.

1754
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 6: That's why I picked them last week to beat the

1755
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 6: Green Bay Packers, but they were still late in the

1756
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 6: game watching Sam Donald sail some throws through the interception

1757
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 6: that ultimately led to the Packers having a chance. That

1758
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 6: was their first time down in the game. Where the

1759
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 6: problem for Jared Golf has really been the defense that's

1760
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 6: been it. Golf has been so lights out that despite

1761
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 6: how good Sam Darnold is playing, he's not playing Jared Golf.

1762
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 5: No football is anybody though, and that's Joey Burrow.

1763
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: Joey Burrows, Joe Burrow, Lamar Alan, Yes, but that's the

1764
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 1: that's the company he's keeping. When people have been saying

1765
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: Donald should get MVP votes, I'm like, no, it should

1766
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: be Jared Golf.

1767
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 3: He's been in the top five of my QB Index

1768
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: all year.

1769
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 6: And so like you, you're missing high against the Green

1770
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 6: Bay Packers. And I know Xavier McKinney has been solid

1771
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 6: and we will talk about you know the Pro Bowl

1772
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 6: and the snubs, Kirby.

1773
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 5: Joseph's leading the NFL and intercept.

1774
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 3: Right now, crazy, it got to so good.

1775
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 6: And I know Dan Campbell's like, we're gonna try, we're

1776
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 6: gonna play, We're playing all our starters. When Kirby Joseph

1777
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 6: ha got that pick and he's running it back, I'm

1778
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 6: like slide. Like of all the issues that they've had

1779
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 6: injury wise, on defense, he and Brian Branch have been special.

1780
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 6: And I don't think Donald can afford to make just

1781
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 6: one mistake here because all they need is one stop.

1782
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 3: And here's the inside story.

1783
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 4: When I was at Lion's training camp this year, they're

1784
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 4: talking about man Jamison Williams is really matured. You're going

1785
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 4: to see this guy over the course of the season

1786
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 4: blossom who has really blown up Jamison Williams. The reason

1787
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 4: why they say he's matured was Teddy Bridgewater's presence on

1788
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 4: their roster last year. Well, guess who's back on their

1789
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 4: roster now the past few weeks. Is going to be

1790
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 4: there for as long as the're posting And.

1791
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: Who just had his best game of the season, Williams.

1792
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm telling you, they say something about the

1793
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 4: way that Teddy can connect to the young man who's

1794
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 4: gone through an awful lot in the early parts of

1795
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 4: his career. That's something to keep an eye on. Really

1796
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 4: starting to feel a little bit better. So there's a

1797
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 4: little inside intel.

1798
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: I like that, And you know what, I think it

1799
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: just bolsters their strength already in this game specifically, and

1800
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: I think we saw a little bit when they played

1801
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 3: at San Francisco last week. They got the turnovers they needed,

1802
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 3: which you just talked about. But what if they don't.

1803
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 3: What if they don't. If they don't, we're looking at

1804
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: a shootout because they have to put up these points

1805
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: just to win these games. Because they know they can't

1806
01:17:59,080 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 3: lean on that defense.

1807
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: They just stick with that scheme, like you don't know

1808
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: what Brian Flores is going to do in this game,

1809
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: and that's a big time advantage. In the first matchup,

1810
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: Jonathan Garnard got after Taylor's that got after he actually

1811
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 1: dominated that matchup. Van Ginkel and Gernard both made the

1812
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl team, which is pretty cool.

1813
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 2: Great great job by quesci this often.

1814
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: How about that.

1815
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:20,759
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1816
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: They could have Alex Azeloni back on Detroit's side. Adam

1817
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: Schefter reported it was a realistic chance that he will

1818
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: be back. I think that's really important because I think

1819
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: for all the problems they've had, you know, on the

1820
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: defensive line, they've got a lot of those guys back

1821
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: where teams like the forty nine ers are picking on them.

1822
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: It's the middle of the field. Donald's great there. The

1823
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: Vikings have so much talent there. They actually were very

1824
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: good the first matchup there. So Angeloni would give them

1825
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: a big upgrade from the types of guys that they've

1826
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: had out there.

1827
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: And the communication, because the line's because of all their

1828
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 4: energies played just a ton of own. Oh yeah, it's

1829
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 4: a ton of own. I mean, so teams just pick

1830
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 4: them apart. The communication Angeloni could give them would be huge.

1831
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,839
Speaker 1: You really just gonna keep blitzing them like crazy. Donald's

1832
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Donald's so good at holding the

1833
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: ball forever. There was a stat from next Gen that

1834
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: him and Herbert hold the ball the longest for guys

1835
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 1: that don't scramble like they don't. They hold the ball

1836
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: and they throw it and they're extremely efficient, which is

1837
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: a tough way to live. It means you're inviting getting

1838
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: hit a lot. And those two guys have been hit

1839
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: quite a bit.

1840
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: To his credit though, when he's under pressure, when rush great,

1841
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: it's been great, very sharp.

1842
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 6: And he's allowing those very very good receivers gense right

1843
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 6: be covered for longer.

1844
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: Wait, so we're all leaning Lions. This doesn't feel haven't

1845
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: we learned anything?

1846
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm kind of leaning vik Okay, I'm notat

1847
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 4: Lions because of the home I think I love that

1848
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: huge here.

1849
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 3: I think I think that the emotional part that you

1850
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 3: described was last year's Lions, and I think it's more

1851
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 3: about we got to get home field advantage to ensure

1852
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 3: that we don't find ourselves in the situation we were

1853
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 3: in Santa Clair a lot.

1854
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: But they're undefeated on the road. That's the one thing

1855
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 4: I love about the Lions. If they have to go

1856
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 4: to Philly, they can play outdoors and back.

1857
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I ash If whoever loses this game, this story,

1858
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 1: I can easily imagine Gin in three weeks time before

1859
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship, the narratives going into that game like

1860
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: they lost that Week eighteen game, but they knew what

1861
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: their season wasn't over and they went on the road

1862
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: and won two games. And credit to both these teams.

1863
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: You can imagine either one of them doing it and

1864
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: getting back to either a rematch or the NFC Championship.

1865
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 5: Very very within the realm of possibilities for teams cra historic.

1866
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 3: That is uh, that's it, guys. We did it for

1867
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 3: Across Dick in the House T shirt was great. Well done.

1868
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 5: Shout out to Ryan Day for making this possible.

1869
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 3: You know, thank you.

1870
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy that you were able to spend the

1871
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: holidays with your large family, yes, a lot of siblings,

1872
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: and that you were able to go back to Cleveland.

1873
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 3: But we do miss you here.

1874
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, I remember when you were when

1875
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: you were in the newsroom with us every day.

1876
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 3: It was fun. Yeah, but you know, we moved here

1877
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 3: right when I moved to Cleveland. I don't even get

1878
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 3: to hang out in these nice digs, but it's always

1879
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: great to walk in and see familiar phases, just like

1880
01:20:58,920 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 3: you guys.

1881
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: Well, I'll I'll see you soon on your little box.

1882
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: Yep, I'll be back in the box. Everybody my oversized head,

1883
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 3: let's get out of here.

1884
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys. We will be back on Friday.

1885
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: Cynthia and I making our weekly picks we'll keep that

1886
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: going through the regular season. And then, yes, we got

1887
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: QB Island returning, we got the the recap.

1888
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, when can't wait to see what you have in

1889
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 3: store for us?

1890
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: When we got

1891
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: Sixteen regular season games left, you know football is finally

1892
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: back