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Speaker 1: This is the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your home of the black and gold steelers, nation radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back down that way. Drive on steeling nation radio

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Speaker 1: and Matt, since we just a quick turnaround for us

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Speaker 1: as well, here we get a game to talk about Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go over that game. The browns played against

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Speaker 1: the jets a little bit here and talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about this. So the BROWNS had thirty seven carries

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Speaker 1: for a hundred eighty four yards. They had average five

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Speaker 1: yards per carry. Jacoby Brissette was twenty two of twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: nine yards, was only sacked once. He had a touchdown pass,

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Speaker 1: had a pass a rating of nine point nine. He

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Speaker 1: did throw an interception. He wasn't but they lost the game.

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Speaker 1: Their defense was a used to be. What what they

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Speaker 1: hung their hat on? There was there was that Brown's

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Speaker 1: defense is Great. Um, they didn't. Uh. Joe FLACCO was

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Speaker 1: twenty forty four for three seven yards, four touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: just taking what the browns we're giving him. Michael Carter

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Speaker 1: five catches for seven yards. When I turned on. Like

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Speaker 1: their their final drive, dump offs to the backs. The

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Speaker 1: browns are playing. You know the backs a lot and

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Speaker 1: they're both good receivers. They're both good receivers. Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 1: had eight for one, O two in that game, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Conklin. They're tight end uh six for forty on

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Speaker 1: nine targets. Um. They spread. That's the one thing when

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Speaker 1: I look at what Mitch Drobiski didn't do yesterday, I

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Speaker 1: think you can learn from Joe a little bit, a

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Speaker 1: little bit Um. I looked at one point before the

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Speaker 1: steelers final possession of the first half and they finally

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Speaker 1: threw a ball to George pickens the twenty, three yards

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Speaker 1: down the sidelines. All the steelers targets in the first

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Speaker 1: half were did Deonte Johnson, chase claypool and Pat Farnmouth.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else had even gotten a target yet and I

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Speaker 1: don't know the percentage off top of my head, but

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Speaker 1: in week one it was friarmouth and deonte getting a

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Speaker 1: very high out of the of the Pie, which is

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. They're both really

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Speaker 1: good and they're getting better. But but then you become

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Speaker 1: a little easy to defend too, you know, like like

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Speaker 1: the spread of the around a little bit more and

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Speaker 1: when they finally did start using the backside of the

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Speaker 1: backfield and in the third quarter that's when they get

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Speaker 1: they went on their long drive. It's funny because I

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Speaker 1: did a quick podcast and, you know, just kind of

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Speaker 1: as soon as the game is over, recapping it, and

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Speaker 1: I did some thumbs up guys and thumbs down guys,

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Speaker 1: and I put Nausey as a thumbs up guy and

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Speaker 1: I said I couldn't be more reluctant to put him

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Speaker 1: as a thumbs up guy because I didn't like the

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Speaker 1: way he played. However, the steelers best drive of the day,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Tomlin got on the headset with the

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Speaker 1: offensive staff and that's one's going through. No, and that

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Speaker 1: was clearly their best drive, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's a coincidence. You know what I mean? They were

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Speaker 1: getting the ball in his hands in a variety of

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Speaker 1: ways and everything looks smoother. It was the one drive

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Speaker 1: that I didn't think was clunky. Yeah, I just look

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Speaker 1: at that. That that Brown's defense, which is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the strength of that team, um give up over

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Speaker 1: four yards yesterday. Yeah, yeah, and I think people need

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Speaker 1: to be aware that the jets might be better than

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Speaker 1: people think. FLACCO is still an NFL quarterback like the

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Speaker 1: steel I mean I didn't think I draw jets steelers comparisons,

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Speaker 1: but when you started talking about it, if Mitch can

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Speaker 1: play like Joe, that's what you expectant. Yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: you have that. I don't think Mitch to play like

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Speaker 1: my homes. That's you know, that's asking too much. But

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Speaker 1: if you can play like Joe has for the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks for the jets, they both have really good weapons.

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Speaker 1: I mean Elijah Moore and Wilson, I mean in Claypool

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Speaker 1: and pickens and all these young talented ball carry years

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Speaker 1: and receivers, you can do damage. The browns had twenty

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Speaker 1: nine first downs in that game. Yeah, that's they were

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Speaker 1: eight of twelve on third downs. They had four five yards.

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Speaker 1: They average six point two yards per play. They also,

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Speaker 1: unlike the Patriots, don't know how to close teams out

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Speaker 1: and don't know how to win in this league. Because

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Speaker 1: that last minute and a half or under two minutes,

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Speaker 1: trubb could have, and this is hard, but if he

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Speaker 1: Games over. You know, there's, like I mentioned the Sando

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Speaker 1: article in the athletic, because he made a pretty funny

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Speaker 1: that's situational football football. He's like he made the parallel that,

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Speaker 1: I guess it takes eight people to fail at their

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Speaker 1: them is jets getting on side kick. You know, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's like a series of events. It's just remarks.

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Speaker 1: Even getting the on side kick. It's they still had

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of that game. The browns held the

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Speaker 1: and they blew a coverage Corey Davis as an a

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Speaker 1: d ardor or something to like. It's just it's remarkable

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Speaker 1: that they lost this game. When you look at it,

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Speaker 1: it's historic, it really is, and hard to do again.

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Speaker 1: You could have kneeled out the game and punted and

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Speaker 1: you've had a better you would have won the game. Problem.

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Speaker 1: Myles Garrett had one tackle in the game. Yes, two

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Speaker 1: sacks or once have one sack. He's at three for

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Speaker 1: the year. Yeah, he's not like there's already people I

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Speaker 1: will win the NFL defensive player of the year. Word

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Speaker 1: now that T J watch out. You can't have a

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Speaker 1: if they've got five guys blocking you. You gotta get

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Speaker 1: there against an immobile quarterback. Who you who's WHO's a

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get that kind of attention when you're that

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Speaker 1: should be used to it. As Adj absolutely I don't

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Speaker 1: for loss. That's great, but then it's their two safeties,

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Speaker 1: you know that those those linebacker where their linebackers at

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Speaker 1: other than Wilson, core Moa Walker had hit four tackles,

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Speaker 1: how you draw it up. But he's played better, people think. Yeah, no.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what to think of this browns team.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're on the run game. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: Superstar and and hunts very good as well. In their

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Speaker 1: know they're they're starting Hudson, the rookie, James Hudson, at

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Speaker 1: the steelers, you're going to attack that. Yeah, and you'll

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Speaker 1: probably be in your three, four more. I mean it

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Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna you're not gonna see a

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Speaker 1: Did you see what's going on with Perry and Winfrey?

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Speaker 1: For Them? No, he apparently did something Friday and that

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Speaker 1: Winfrey was what their fourth round draftick. They were counting

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Speaker 1: They sent him home on Friday for violating team rules

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Speaker 1: it was totally justified. We can't have that kind of

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Speaker 1: whatever he's doing. Yeah, I can't do those things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: was good at the senior bowl exactly, and that stands

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Speaker 1: stupid things, you know whatever. But yeah, he's a ball

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Speaker 1: little person. So I mean it's it's it's Jayron Elliott,

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Speaker 1: a Elliott for them to tackle, and Tavin Bryant, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's just two journeymen. Yeah, and and now you

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Speaker 1: don't have clowney for this game. You don't clown for

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Speaker 1: this game and you don't have a lot of depth

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Speaker 1: and Garrett's gonna get doubled every way as usual. Tom

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Speaker 1: Lennon a funny line about that today. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: offensive line, the Arrow is pointing up there, playing better. Uh,

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