00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Wineker. What's going on? There's almost nothing going on? I well, we're here together, we're building our life together. Unless you're new to the podcast, in which case I've got my eye on you. But otherwise, I hope you're feeling okay. Let's get into the podcast. I want to talk to our guests, who I find extremely funny. Everyone loves her. It's Margaret Joe Margaret. Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:18 Speaker 3: Thank you? Hi. Hi, how are you? I'm doing great? How are you? 00:01:25 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. I've got I've had a weird start to the year where it felt like this office that I'm currently in flooded at which the listener's probably so tired of hearing about at this point. But now kind of nothing is going on, so I feel like I need an in between of things happening in my. 00:01:42 Speaker 3: Life right, Well, it already started off very difficult this year, and then it's just very strange. But I think we'll get through it. I mean, we'll be okay. 00:01:54 Speaker 2: I think we'll be okay. How was your twenty twenty one? 00:01:57 Speaker 3: My twenty twenty one was? It was interesting because I spent some of it actually on the road I did a lot of movies and shooting out on location, from Fire Island to Recovec to Syracuse and all over the place. And then I was actually able to go out and do stand up comedy, which is great. But then now everything is kind of shut down again. And I was supposed to go on tour in January, but now that's moved to hopefully February, so we'll see. I would love to keep going out again because I had a bit of a taste of normalcy, but then it was dashed. 00:02:45 Speaker 2: I feel like mid February should be okay. 00:02:51 Speaker 3: I guess so. I mean, I think I've also just gotten so paranoid about everything too, because I was able to avoid COVID I think the whole time, and then still avoided it and now everybody around me has had it. But you know, I just still like still haven't gotten it. I really don't want to get it. We'll see. 00:03:17 Speaker 2: So what is your day to day like now? 00:03:20 Speaker 3: Well, I still do work, Like this week, I spent working on the Orville Pek video Fantastic. He's fantastic early adopter with the masks. He's been wearing a mask since before everything, so that's great. And I worked on the Talk That TV show right, and so it's been a kind of a busy week. I also changed my cast litter box outside to a it looks like a gulf stream. It's so adorable. So it looks like they're in the music video for Time after Time with Cyndy lapp Or. It's so cute because I really wanted to get them a nice outdoor little boxes. They have a really fabulous cadio and they're litter box. When it rains, it gets full of water and so it's quite frustrating. So I thought, I've got to get some kind of thing that's like a litter box that doesn't get water at it, and so I found one that's like a gulf street. 00:04:24 Speaker 2: So it's like, how big is this litter box? 00:04:27 Speaker 3: It's about maybe twenty by thirty inches, but it's all it's all contained. It's in like a little trailer. So they go in, I'll be in my trailer. You know, there's show biz, there's so show bus. My cats. They're like, I'll be in my trailer and they'll go in the little like port window and then do their business and come back out. So then and then there's a door and that I can clean it. So I'm really excited about it. 00:04:54 Speaker 2: That's a huge development for you. 00:04:56 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, any kind of cat development has been really major. So this is like a very They're they're actually like boycotting three of the litter boxes because I had the audacity to put pine litter instead of clay litter and they don't like the feeling of it under their little delicate pause. 00:05:16 Speaker 2: So your are your cats indoor outdoor cats? 00:05:19 Speaker 3: Well, they're indoor, but they have a mid century outdoor cadeo that has a wooden tunnel. That's I mean, it's so beautiful. It really looks like this was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright. Like it's so beautiful the cadeo. It's actually been on like television shows and stuff what because it's such a nice cateo that nobody has a caddo like this. Because it's got. It's got like that they have. They have a cat casino. So all their dry food, which they can only have out of the casino, is all these like cat food toy puzzles. That's they're all like rigged up, and so they can only get dry food if they play the casino games. And then there's their cat wheel, which is like a hamster wheel, but it's a giant one for cats, right, and so they can run on that on the side. And then they have their little elliptical climbing machine next to it. So they have a gym the casino, and then their cadio. But then when it's a little bit colder out because they're hairless, they don't go out as much, except maybe they'll go out to use the Gulf stream bathroom. 00:06:28 Speaker 2: Okay, And so back to this cat casino or is it like are they playing the slots or is it little it's. 00:06:35 Speaker 3: Like slots, it's like roulette, I guess it's like food on the dry food gets in wheels, and if they spin the wheel, then a dry food will come into the slot. So they have to really paw it and spin it to get the dry food out. And so they you know, because I don't like them to free feed, but I do like to have food out for them. So the compromise I made was, I'm going to give them impetus exercise some motivation so they can play the dry food game, and then they get their wet food twice a day with special catered meals that I do for them. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: So you've just you've transformed them into compulsive gamblers. 00:07:20 Speaker 3: They're gamblers. They're outdoor CaTiO enthusiasts. They also have a little Japanese zekayah like a saki bar, and it's kind of small, so they can only there can only be one of them in there, but sometimes two of them fitted and then there's a bar fight. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: And did you get them at the same time? Are they like actual siblings or twur siblings? 00:07:45 Speaker 3: One of them, the one of them is deaf, and she has a lot of balance issues, and she broke her leg and she's had some problems. So she has her litter mate, her sister, who basically is her ears for her and her kind of like, you know, just her helper, and so they're they're absolutely inseparable. And then I have a boy. He is a lie choi, so he's shedding his fur right now. So he's about half bird, and he's not from the same letter. He's a little bit younger than they are. 00:08:18 Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't think I've ever heard of this sort of cat before. They have hair part of the year and then shed it. 00:08:24 Speaker 3: Yes, so he looks like a long cheney werewolf. Like he's like a nineteen sixties hammer horror werewolf. He's only got like hair around the sides of his face. He's like very he's kind of like he could have been a character on the Old like Adam west Batman. 00:08:44 Speaker 2: Oh right, right, that sort. 00:08:45 Speaker 3: Of like Technicolor World of Characters. He's very that and he's a really he's a very interesting boy. They call them wear wolf cats. It's a very strange, rare breed. They're very interesting. 00:08:58 Speaker 2: Oh that's fascinating. Yes, okay, So besides just creating this whole world for your cats, what else are you doing to entertain yourself? 00:09:08 Speaker 3: I have been eating a lot of bread. I bake a loaf of bread every single day and eat the whole thing, and then I make croutons and breadcrumbs out of the rest. But I think sometimes I do get in over my head with the bread and then I go for walks with my Choua, which. 00:09:26 Speaker 2: She's right here, say see if you'll say hi. 00:09:29 Speaker 3: She's a really sweet girl. She's tired because we went out today. We definitely have a good time to sluchi. 00:09:35 Speaker 2: Ita it God bless sweet little person. 00:09:41 Speaker 3: She's a really sweet girl. She's like the best. And then so we go out do some voiceover things and podcasting things. The first of my years started up very strangely because I did the first thing I did was Bob Saget's. 00:09:59 Speaker 2: Podcas Yes, oh wow. 00:10:01 Speaker 3: So that was last Monday, Oh my god. And so him passing away on Sunday was really a shock. 00:10:08 Speaker 2: Of course, you. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: Know, I've known him for thirty something years, so it was really a horrible way to kind of start the year off is losing him. Well Betty White as well, right, but she was also really amazing to have known her for a long time. But Bob was great, and he was so happy and so excited to go back out on the road and do comedy. And it's really it's really. 00:10:38 Speaker 2: Tragic, it really is. And I you know, everybody like from every corner of comedy seems to have loved him. He seems to have just been a very kind person. So it's devastating to hear those. 00:10:53 Speaker 3: So beloved, so warm, and just somebody that loved comedy. So that was what was so great about him, is that he was a big fan of comedy. Because you know how comics are, like they just like hate comedy. 00:11:10 Speaker 2: Of course, Yes, I'm very familiar, personally familiar, you know what I mean. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: Like they're like, oh, you know, they just are so against comedians and they hate comedy or they hate like comedy as an art for you know, And I can understand that point of view, like if you've been around comedy, I know the feeling of like hating other comics. But Bob was really he loved the art form of it, and he loved other comics, and he loved all forms of comedy, and he really was just such a great guy. And so everybody's really feeling the loss, I think, very very poignantly, right, Yeah, yeah, such. 00:11:56 Speaker 2: A devastating loss. 00:11:57 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: Well, I am interested in hearing a little more about your bread baking. Your baking is this a pandemic thing or have you been making bread? 00:12:07 Speaker 3: Yes, all of my cooking is pandemic based. But I realized that it's a true art form that I really got into, Like I just love it so much. I have a special bread kloch, a terra cotta bread kloch. I had my own starter, but my starter kind of got away for me. I started the I had like a regular starter that I did with like ryeflower, and then I had a superstarter that was the Nancy Silverton starter that I did with grapes, and I bult blended them together after a while and I made this franken starter that made the bread so sour and rose so fast, like it was just so vigorous the yeast that I just was like, I didn't want to use it, and then I put it away and then it would just kind of like row and ferment inside of the jar, and it just got to the point where it was just so vigorous. I didn't trust it right, and I was like, this is like bigger than me. This has become something that I have to release control, relinquished control. I can't harness this east. It became a threat to me. And then I was like should I dehydrate the east? And then I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not going to do that so I fostered the East for like two years, and I realized I had to just let it go because it was just beyond my uh understanding of bread baking. And so now I just use commercial yeast, which is great. I mean, I know what I'm getting every time. But the wildiest, you know, being the sobergy started that it does in part of better flavor. But I think it's just so you have to stay consistent with it. I just I couldn't be bothered, but I do love baking. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: When you say let it go, does that mean just dump it in the trash. 00:14:04 Speaker 3: I dumped it in the trash. I put it in the It was in the garbage disposal. It was actually kind of an awful and because I really had I named it. I put them together and named it. It was like a superstarter, and I really used it very well for a while, but then, you know, I just and then some people keep their starters for like hundreds of years, right of course, you know, but I just I didn't have I didn't have the capacity to do it, so I might, you know, did beat dad of the start. I m like, I didn't pay Yeast support. I didn't want to, you know, keep on. I didn't. I didn't, you know, and they say, well, you should do something with the discard, and that, you know, we should make pancakes with the discard, make scallion pancakes with make discard cookies, and I just didn't want to. I really refuse. And then I felt like I was wasting a lot of flour every day because you have to feed it to. 00:15:01 Speaker 2: Make all that up, those discard baking products that you're essentially launching a business. At that point, yeah, I just was. 00:15:08 Speaker 3: Like I don't want to. You know, I'm not going to do it. And you know, I don't care how convincing you are about the recipes that you can make with the discard. To me, it's like it's just like a waste. So I realized that somebody else is going to have to do the star to starting, not not I not I. 00:15:28 Speaker 2: I would have preferred to hear that you had released it into the woods or something. But what are you going to do? 00:15:35 Speaker 3: I was thinking about using it like on my plants, but then I, you know, I'm like, so I don't think that. I don't think my plants like it. 00:15:43 Speaker 2: I mean plans, what does that? 00:15:45 Speaker 3: Well, if you like put the discard in water and then you pour that onto your plants. That's like a good thing to do. 00:15:53 Speaker 2: Oh, I had no idea. 00:15:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just wouldn't. 00:15:56 Speaker 2: It just seems like at some point you've got to create some boundaries for yourself. 00:16:02 Speaker 3: I really had to create some yeast boundaries and just start using commercial yeast, which is fine. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's no shame in that. 00:16:11 Speaker 3: It's delicious and so and it still makes a tasty bread and I don't have it doesn't have to be very sour, and it's totally fine. So I'm very I'm very happy. 00:16:20 Speaker 2: And are you making sandwiches with the bread or are you just eating the bread as sliced both? 00:16:25 Speaker 3: I would what I was doing was just breaking open the loaf like a wild animal and then eating it with just like nothing. And then I had like butter on it. And then I was doing butter and vegamite, which I actually really find delicious sometimes marmite. And then I started doing this thing where I would do sandwiches with bree and like a apricot or raspberry jam and then a balsamic reduction. 00:17:02 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: So it was very sour but sweet but unctuous. So that's kind of the vein I'm going in. I might go in a ham direction at some point with that, but I basically can find a sandwich and stick with it for several months. 00:17:18 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very good at just eating the same thing until it begins to make me feel sick when I'm eating it, just to the point of nausea. It's like, yes, flavor no longer works for me. 00:17:29 Speaker 3: Yes, but I like to do like I like to eat the same thing over and over. And I think that would always bother people that I used to live with. But now that I live alone with these cats and this dog, they're not going to get any bread or discard anything. They get their food. And I wish I had a food that just had my picture on it, you know that I could. 00:17:54 Speaker 2: Grab a giant bag with your face. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: Like a Royal canaan Margaret know, adult dog, like adult comedian bagged food, die cut food. I would be so better off if I could just carry my food in like a dry like a driversion or something that I could reconstitute with water. I would be so happy. 00:18:17 Speaker 2: It would cut down on having to make any decisions. You just buy several bags or cans of it and then you just pour it into your bowl and eat it off the floor in the morning, right. 00:18:29 Speaker 3: And I think it's just it's just it just cuts down on the clutter of my life. If I just have something like I don't have to make a decision. My food is always going to be the same, so I don't have to worry about anything else sort of cluttering that sustenance. Right, you can just have the food in that bag. So that's why the baking the bread. It's kind of a ritualized thing where I can just have the bread and then you know, I don't need anything else. 00:18:58 Speaker 2: Yeah, I allow one day to be one that requires a decision. Dinner is the one meal where I get to decide on it. The rest of breakfast and lunch are basically the same thing every single day. 00:19:09 Speaker 3: What do you have for breakfast in lunch? 00:19:11 Speaker 2: For breakfast, I'll have a protein bar. For lunch a protein shake, which has recently I think I've crossed the threshold into like I'm gagging. I'm like this no longer tastes even remotely pleasant to me anymore. This is disgusting. 00:19:26 Speaker 3: Do you make it? 00:19:27 Speaker 2: Which I make it? 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Do you look a smoothie. 00:19:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm putting like the powder. I put in a banana, some cinnamon, some cocoa powder. Yeah, ice, I think that's about it. I've started putting in blueberries, but I think maybe it's because it's cold. Outside the idea of drinking a cold shake where the flavor is not that pleasant. It's just an awful experience. 00:19:51 Speaker 3: But I love that. It's like the sustenance that you know what it is, you know what it's going to be, you know what's in it. 00:19:57 Speaker 2: You can count on it. 00:19:58 Speaker 3: You can count on it, and then then you're good for like however long. So I love a shake too. I have a juicer, so I'll do that with juice, and that's like but that you have to be careful because I'll do weird juice. Sometimes it's too green, like I'll do tuma. I'll think I want all green juices, and then it's just awful. 00:20:22 Speaker 2: I get tempted when I'm putting in spinach or kale into things. I think this so I can go a little bit further. This time the flavor will be disguised, and then I ruined the entire meal. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: Then it's just so it's so green and granular, and it's just, you know, I feel so like I can't choke it down, and it's just awful. 00:20:44 Speaker 2: Now it's citrus season, isn't it. 00:20:47 Speaker 3: It is citrus season. 00:20:48 Speaker 2: Are you enjoying any citruses? I had a nice orange today and it was lovely. 00:20:52 Speaker 3: I love a raspberry orange. Have you had those? It's like a blood orange. 00:20:58 Speaker 2: This is brand new to me, and I'm my heart is pounding. 00:21:01 Speaker 3: It's very sour. They're easy to peel. And although I do get very squeamish when I have an orange and I have to peel up, I will wear a glove. Why because I don't want to get pith under my nails. It's very upsetting. 00:21:18 Speaker 2: I was going to say the smell is wonderful, But the smell. 00:21:21 Speaker 3: Is wonderful, but then I get sort of the pith and zest under my nail nails, in my cuticles, and then I can't do anything. 00:21:30 Speaker 2: Shut down for a week. 00:21:33 Speaker 3: It's so unbearable. So I have actually, but I don't want to waste gloves because I think they're kind of like not. I don't want to, you know, have a bunch of plastic in the garbage. So I have one orange. 00:21:47 Speaker 2: Glove, just like a reusable rubber glove. 00:21:52 Speaker 3: My orange glove that I have in my orange bowl that only has oranges because I don't refrigerate them either. 00:21:59 Speaker 2: Oh no, I like a nice room temperature orange. 00:22:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and it's like one of those things where you can actually leave it out like most citrus, you can actually just leave it out as long as you use it, like within a reasonable time. 00:22:12 Speaker 1: Right. 00:22:13 Speaker 3: So, but yeah, I definitely have to recommend the raspberry along. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: You glad you're bringing it back because I thought we were just going to speed past it. What is the difference between that and a blood orange? 00:22:24 Speaker 3: It's pretty much a lighter It's not as dark red, right, It's got a little bit of a sweeter, a little lighter quality. They are. I think it's like, I don't know, it's one of those modern kinds of weird hybrids, like a cotton candy grape. It's like a strange like hybrid fruit that is kind of a newish varietal, but really quite popular and really delicious and very in season right now. So they're on sale everywhere. 00:23:00 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got to track those down. Are you one of these people that knows every type of apple variety? 00:23:06 Speaker 3: Well, not every type, but I do have my favorites. I do like a honey crisp apple. I think there's nothing better because the cell walls are made to hold more water. Oh that's why they're so juicy when you bite into them. And there's something about the cell walls that are bred in that. The way that they do it. I'm not sure how they splice these jeans, these apple jeans together, but they they did it. So it's just the cell says. You know what the worst is Biting into a mealy apple? 00:23:39 Speaker 2: Awful, a gas station apple. 00:23:41 Speaker 3: A gas station red delicious. 00:23:43 Speaker 2: Just pure hell. 00:23:43 Speaker 3: It's the worst. It's like why, But honey crisp it stays pretty pristine for quite a long time too. So you have a good apple, a good eating apple, for quite you know, for your money. It's a bang for you. 00:24:01 Speaker 2: Bup. I don't know that I've ever had a honey crisp, and people rave and rave and rave, but I think it's because I like a green apple, so I've never I love. 00:24:09 Speaker 3: A green apple. I love a Granny Smith as Granny Smith, you know, like a apple you would want to bake into a pie. That's a wonderful apple. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: A delicious apple gives you the feeling of walking through an orchard and you know, finding your delicious apple. 00:24:24 Speaker 3: And the Grannysmith apple. It's very seventies. 00:24:27 Speaker 2: Oh completely, It's got a real classic vibe. 00:24:31 Speaker 3: It's very classics for seventies. It's like, you know, you want to eat that with like a big piece of white cheddar cheese. 00:24:38 Speaker 2: Oh ah, that sounds phenomenal. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: Walking in mirror woods with an older gentleman that you have a little bit of a questionable relationship with, you know, it's a kind of like like, you know, it's a little bit inappropriate seventies moment. You're all wearing a denim shirt but not jeans, like like either leather pants, not in like a Jim Morrison or like a gothway, but like a leather like a brown leather. 00:25:09 Speaker 2: Right, kind of a person of the woods. 00:25:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, man of the woods, like a Walden pond. 00:25:21 Speaker 2: Do you know what now that we're talking about this one apple I never want to see again is a golden apple? 00:25:27 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's not good. 00:25:28 Speaker 2: No that I don't know that anyone enjoys that apple. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: It's just it's the melely version of a green out. It's like a yellow like it's not good. 00:25:40 Speaker 2: It's just not a good school lunch or something. 00:25:42 Speaker 3: It's a horrible school lunch apple. It's a horrible government issue apple. But nobody wants no. I just think those apples are are fine for baking like pie. They're good for juicing. Oh, sure, those apples are good for apples us, you know, or for Halloween, you know. Hiding a razor blade. 00:26:10 Speaker 2: For endangering the neighborhood children, I. 00:26:12 Speaker 3: Always like was questioning, like what that actually did that actually happen and somebody actually put razor blades in apples? I mean you could see them. 00:26:21 Speaker 2: I recently learned that was a myth, or at least like maybe it happened once and it got blown up into this thing that was like everything has a razor blade in it. 00:26:32 Speaker 3: Yes, or drugs, Like they're not going to put drugs in they candy. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: They want they're valuable, drugs valuable? 00:26:41 Speaker 3: Why would you give them to children? No way? 00:26:45 Speaker 2: Take one? Please? No? I think. I mean the thing I appreciated about the razor blade myth is, at least as a kid, it provided this extra sense of fear and danger, like a little excitement when you were trick or treating. There's always the danger that you was going to kill you. 00:27:01 Speaker 3: Frison, Yes, frizzon. I was listening to Andre Leon Talley's book and he says frizzle and I'm like, oh, yes, that's it, that's the word that is it is Frison for Halloween? Is that a little bit of danger that you need to make it so exciting? 00:27:21 Speaker 2: Exactly? Now, I could go on and on about apples, as I've demonstrated in various fruits. We don't have time for that. I need to get into something with you. Now. You agreed to be on this podcast in the last month or so. It's impossible to say at this point when anything has happened. But I was really excited. I thought, Margaret is outstanding, She's so funny. We're going to have a great time. Everything will be pleasant, no feelings will be hurt, and we'll move on with our lives. And uh, today I was, you know, tooling around the house. I was finishing up some work and I got an email for my producer On Aalise. The podcast is called I said no gifts, and so I was a little surprised when and bless On Aalise, they really do try to protect my feelings. But in this situation, I get this email that says do not open until recording. Margaret chose gifts yes, and so I, you know, I kind of just collapsed on the floor and just laid there for a while and tried to gather my energy back and just straightened myself out emotionally and said, you know, I'm just gonna get on the podcast. I'm gonna confront Margaret. Margaret, I don't even have to ask. You've obviously sent me a gift. Do you want me to open it here on the podcast? Is there some little what is this an attention grab? I don't know what I'm we're doing. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: Well, I've sent you an NFT. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding, and it's. 00:29:06 Speaker 3: It's actually not really an NFT. It is, but it's my version of an NFT and that non vungeable token. People are buying them from millions of dollars. Basically, what it is is that you can't really send them because you can't really you know, the whole idea that the Internet is public space, and an NFT is really saying no, it's actually not. You can't actually own part of the Internet. So I was trying to make you an NFT for real through these like blockchain sites. And then I just got really confused, and I thought, well, if I just make an NFT and draw it and then send it, then there's still some copying, so it's still it's not exactly a traditional art. But if you promise not to send it to anybody, and I don't send it to anybody, then we're the only ones that have it. So we've made a little with slight, slightly fungible token. 00:30:00 Speaker 2: Well, I want to open it up and see what this NFT looks like. You can go, We're down. Oh, I love this. 00:30:11 Speaker 3: It's of a it's of my alter ego, Lotti, and I drew it. It's a it's a bit of a painting, but I painted it with old makeup that is expired and I'm using as paint in tribute to Jerome Kaja, who is a very talented makeup artist who was round in the eighties and San Francisco, and he did a lot of great work with expired nail polish and expired makeup. So it's my alter ego that I'm Lottie, who is a witch. She is a crafty witch and like in the craft. I think that there should be the craft and then the craft is basically they get their power mostly because they're teen witches, sort of like when you have puberty, you're in a lot of like power, like you know how they say that there's like people who are in puberty cause poultergeists, Oh is that true? It's a very pig thing. So I think that if you're in puberty and you cause pultry gris, you must be in really good, spiritual, crazy shape if you're in menopause. So Lotti's in menopause. So she's that kind of a witch. And so that's a portrait of her with my expired makeup. 00:31:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the listener, it's essentially a woman in a kind of what color would you say, a pinky yeah, pink is it's. 00:31:42 Speaker 3: Like an expired lipstick. It's like a house dress. Yeah, kind of a frizzy crazy hair. 00:31:49 Speaker 2: And a nice red lip. 00:31:51 Speaker 3: Yes, which is probably nail polish or something. 00:31:54 Speaker 2: And then some stockings and then it says Lotti at the bottom. 00:32:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lotty. 00:32:01 Speaker 2: So this is now I mean, as far as you or I are concerned, this is an NFT. 00:32:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if we just agree to make this an NFT, that it's an FT. I mean, of course I could do it with the blockchain, but it's just it's easier to do it this way, so we just do it this way. 00:32:17 Speaker 2: Tell me about the process you tried to go through to because I don't know anything about any of this, and it's so baffling. 00:32:25 Speaker 3: It's so baffling. So and you couldn't even buy it, like if I made it, you could make it for free, but then somebody has to buy it. And then you can't even buy it with money. You have to buy it with bitcoin, which is like so confusing to me. I don't understand cryptocurrency. I don't understand any of this stuff. It's so confusing. So I just thought, why don't I just simplify it and just say what it is? Like who cares? It's great? But I think this is like I think it's supposed to be. Like the idea that the Internet doesn't have to be an open area it can actually be closed off is sort of an interesting idea, and I like that idea. 00:33:05 Speaker 2: Right, And so I mean it all is kind of imaginary. I mean, you're kind of just value as being placed on things. Randomly, and I feel like I'm I mean, just to get ahead of this, I'm going to say that this piece is worth about fourteen million dollars. That's right, And now it is, this NFT is a fourteen million dollar piece. I feel like I'm setting my email up to for some sort of heist situation, some sort of electronic hest where the NFT is stolen, right, right, But I mean, I guess that's the that's the danger of owning art. 00:33:43 Speaker 3: Well, it is a danger, I mean. And also it's like the odd thing about art is like, why is art valuable? I guess we put value on things because the art is just famous, or because it's it's got sentimental value to us or something. But you know, NFT, I guess, I guess you can just put value on it because we say that there's value. But I still don't understand. That's why. I just some things are hard for me to get, like that, the idea of things having value just because it's a societal agreement that it has. 00:34:21 Speaker 2: Value, right, I mean, even to the point of money. I mean, it's all just kind of imaginary, right. But NFTs is just such a clear new thing that somebody just decided this is going to be a thing that's valuable despite not really providing any sort of service or anything, and also being easily copied. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Right, But that's why they have blockchain technology, so you can't copy it. 00:34:47 Speaker 2: But what does that mean? 00:34:49 Speaker 3: I don't know. You can only pay for it through cryptocurrency, which is I don't even know what that means. I'm like, what, it's all these imaginary things to create imaginary things, and I don't understand. But it's going to take a long time to upload, that's all I knows. 00:35:08 Speaker 2: What I'm questioning is is I'm going to want to show this picture to viewers on Instagram, but I don't want it. I don't want the NFT to lose the fourteen million dollar valuation. 00:35:19 Speaker 3: But I think you can do it because like, do you remember there was that artist who was doing photos on Instagram and then putting them in a gallery. No, and there are photos that he didn't take, but he had posted them to his Instagram, which made them his property. So when you post things that are copyrighted to somebody else and then you post them through your social media, then it becomes your intellectual property or something like that. Like he won some crazy lawsuit to allow him to use images that he did not actually photograph in an art exhibit because it was like once art once removed, so it was like the viewer once removed. So it was this whole thing. Like it's like Jeff Coons, you know, the guy that had like all of the sort of his big claim to fame with all of these crazy like ceramic sculptures of Michael Jackson. 00:36:19 Speaker 2: And were like the balloon dogs or well. 00:36:21 Speaker 3: The balloon dogs there were giant balloon animals. And he didn't create any of the work. He actually had it made for him. But yeah, they're just people like a factory somewhere that made all of that. He wasn't the actual sculptor or taking all of that bone china and putting it together, none of that. He's not a seramesist. He's not handy in that way. But he just laid claim to the work saying that it was his. So you know, it's like Damien Hurst, who created I guess probably his most famous work is the kind of emoji art album cover for Drake with all like emoji women. Is that you know that that's like to me, well, you're basically taking uh, sort of the style and reworking it. But it's not a style that originated from him. 00:37:19 Speaker 2: Right, it's kind of just a repurposed. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: It's a repurposed idea. I mean, I actually do think Damien Hurst is an interesting artist. Like he would do like big, very controversial shows where he would show like a cow sow it in half, oh and like basketball saw it in half, and like a shark saw it in half, and then like sitting in formaldehyde, and that would be the show. And to me that it's an affront to my senses. Also, you didn't create that shark. You didn't create that cow sawing. I don't think so. I think this is all sort of like outsourced somewhere else. 00:37:57 Speaker 2: He founded someone to saw them for it. 00:37:59 Speaker 3: But the idea is his, so I guess that's his art. I don't know. I have a picture. I have a Damien Hurst. Actually that's actually a photograph of him with decapitated head from some kind of an accident, some sort of I know, there's an auto accident and it's really gory and really crazy and it's like a very I don't know why I have this. It's a very strange. I'm not sure. 00:38:25 Speaker 2: Why do you have it hanging in your house? 00:38:29 Speaker 3: Yes, it's hanging, well, it's it's on a picture rail. It's not really hanging, but it's there. And I'm like, why do I have this? But it has value and I have it, and you know, I don't really know. So there's like certain artists that you're like, I guess there's an emotional charge attached to it and a monetary value to the name, right, So those are what gives value to it. And I guess any sort of art that is arrest to the spirit, I guess is worthwhile. 00:39:04 Speaker 2: It's valuable in that way. That's where it creates its value. Yes, Now do you feel like you're going to get sucked into buying an NFT at some point or are you swearing it off? 00:39:14 Speaker 3: Well, I just don't know how to figure out cryptocurrency either, like that. Somebody actually tried to pay me for a show in like bitcoin, and I should have taken it because I probably would be worth more now, but I just didn't understand it, and so I couldn't get my mind around any of this sort of like, well, how do I take it? So, yes, I'll take it, and then where do I put it? 00:39:39 Speaker 2: You know, you can't you lose it in your inbox. 00:39:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in there somewhere. But it's like, how do you know how how you would store something like that? I don't know how you would pay for things with it. I don't know. 00:39:50 Speaker 2: So the producer of a comedy show was trying to pay a bitcoin or was it like a yes, wow? 00:39:55 Speaker 3: It was a tech company show, of course, so they were like offering bitcoin for it, and so I just I didn't understand the process, so I didn't go for it. 00:40:06 Speaker 2: I think that that's completely fair. Yeah, it seems that the value of that seems to be all over the place. 00:40:13 Speaker 3: Well, I have a problem with like decluttering, which is I declutter the wrong things, and so maybe it would be good to give me something that I can't really throw away, like bitcoin. I guess because I threw away boxed mac Apple items from nineteen ninety three that I had been given in lieu of payment. I did a commercial from Apple when they didn't have any money. 00:40:43 Speaker 2: These tech companies are paying you in the strangest ways. 00:40:46 Speaker 3: So they gave me boxes of special cameras and laptops that they had never actually produced, and I had them in their boxes stacked up and I just threw them out, oh, because I didn't think that they would be of any mail. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: You when did you throw them away? 00:41:02 Speaker 3: I think I threw them away in like two thousand and two. Oh, and you know, people are like what and I didn't even know what they were, but they were just things in their boxes that Apple had produced that never actually went anywhere, so, you know, just weird like CD ROM kind of thing, like weird, like old tech. I also threw away a bunch of Beetles sheets that had like the names of the Beatles and then the hotel they stayed in, and like little pieces of their sheets. I got those back after I. 00:41:35 Speaker 2: Threw them all. 00:41:37 Speaker 3: I don't know how I got them back, but they're in my bathroom now. Those are really nice. 00:41:44 Speaker 2: You need just an assistant to value your things before you throw them away. This is the theme of this entire episode. As you're throwing away things. 00:41:51 Speaker 3: I threw away things. It's all throwing away. Well, it's like I also had a big thing of throwing away a lot of my clothes, not throwing the way I gave them away. I was decluttering all of my closets, and I gave everything to the thrift store. But I realized that I had put in a box of sex toys, like a bunch of vibrators with no charger, like sad sex toys that never will be used. And I just put them in the box and I put them all and they all went to the thrift store. And then I was so in a pickle, like should I go back? No? 00:42:26 Speaker 2: No, oh, certainly not. 00:42:28 Speaker 3: You know, I apologize. I didn't mean to give them all of these. I guess they're used to it. I don't know. 00:42:34 Speaker 2: I thought that happens pretty frequently, right. 00:42:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, people put sort of things, you know, to declutter, and they. 00:42:41 Speaker 2: Right accidentally send a drawer of dildos. 00:42:44 Speaker 3: Or whatever something. 00:42:46 Speaker 2: Oh wow, but good for you for decluttering. I'm having a very difficult time doing that. I have a really hard time time doing that with clothing, with shoes. I mean, some of my shoes barely qualify even as sandals at this point, but I'm holding onto them. It's a hard thing to do to get rid of things. 00:43:05 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It's hard, but I also have so many things that I need to stop. And this is what I hate gifts too, because I have I have like a feeling like I have to keep them, of course, because people gave them to me, and if I care and like the person, which I always do, then I want to keep them. And then I'm stacked full of stuff that I don't want around here. 00:43:31 Speaker 2: Yes, a thing in the last couple of years that I've a skill, I've developed it at the very least is throwing away like birthday cards and this kind of thing. If unless they have like a long message in them, it's going directly into the garbage. You're not going to fill up a box in my closet with birthday cards or whatever. 00:43:50 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, it's it's very It's it's hard though, Like some things like I have that are kind of gross that I should get rid of, but I don't want to. Like I have a box of candies from Anna Nicole Smith, oh my God, that I got from doing her television show I remember the Anal. 00:44:09 Speaker 2: Show, of course, the reality show. 00:44:11 Speaker 3: The reality show, and I have them stacked up. There's actually three boxes of candies and the candy still in there. 00:44:17 Speaker 2: You should open a museum. 00:44:19 Speaker 3: I should. I should just get rid of the candy, but I can't even bear to even open it. Like it's just too. It's so uh, it is very sentimental, especially when the people die, You're like, oh god, I should right. 00:44:34 Speaker 2: What kind of candies are they? 00:44:36 Speaker 3: I think they're like Jordan aumand those are rock hard at this point, I mean that you break teeth if you even try. I don't even think anybody should try to eat them, or maybe they'll stay forever. Who knows. 00:44:50 Speaker 2: What were you doing on her show? 00:44:52 Speaker 3: I don't know that that show was interesting because it was her and China the wrestler right died, also died my friend Kathy Griffin right, and also Bruce Daniels, my other friend, And it was Anna and her I think her cousin and her chihuahua Sweetie Chihuahua. I think her chihaha sweety Pie, something like that. 00:45:23 Speaker 2: Okay. The only memory I have of her reality show is that she went somewhere in the valley and had a pasta eating contest, and so it was just like a full episode of her and a couple other people just eat eating as much pasta as they No, that's nice, Yeah, just a little weird reality TV moment. Okay, I think we should play a game. Okay, We're going to play a game called gift or a curse. I'll tell you how we play in a moment, but I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:45:59 Speaker 3: Seven. 00:46:00 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do. I have to find our game pieces and do some calculating with your number. So right now, you can promote something, you can recommend something, you have the mic. I'll be right back. 00:46:09 Speaker 3: Okay. You can watch my movie which is appearing right now on Hulu called Sex Appeal with another I said no gifts, guest Fortune, Femster and Paris Jackson and it's a great comedy Sex Appeal. So that's on Hulu now or starting January fourteenth. 00:46:39 Speaker 2: Perfect. Yes, Oh, I'm excited to watch that movie. 00:46:42 Speaker 3: It's very good. 00:46:43 Speaker 2: Okay, this is this is how gift or a curse works. I'm going to name three things. Okay, you're going to tell me if there are a gift or a curse and why and there are I have to be extremely clear, there are correct answers. So you can lose this game and it's embarrassing. 00:47:00 Speaker 3: All right, so just be careful, thank you. 00:47:03 Speaker 2: Okay, these and these are all listeners suggestions today, which is very exciting. Okay. Number one, Gift or a Curse and this is from a listener named Bridget. Interestingly, enough, nuts in brownies. 00:47:18 Speaker 3: I think it's a gift. 00:47:20 Speaker 2: And why. 00:47:21 Speaker 3: I think it's just it adds a kind of crunch. I love a nut in a brownie. I think it's really good. I like nuts and chocolate. As a rule, I don't like nuts in bread, but I do love a nut in a brownie. 00:47:40 Speaker 2: Margaret, you got it right, okay, of course, I mean, look, they're a gift. Of course, they're a gift. I don't understand there are people who don't like nuts, and I just I can't even. It's one of the few things that I can't feel any level of empathy towards because nuts are such a mild flavor. They're nothing a crush, and they're. 00:48:01 Speaker 3: A good fat source. I blend nuts into salad dressing. I did that today. It was very good, So you know, they add a little bit of oof right to your salad dressing. Very good. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: I love a nutt in just about anything, and people who don't like them are so vocal about it. There's so much whining about not wanting the nut in the brown I mean, of course, if you have an allergy or something that's a different case. 00:48:29 Speaker 3: It's different, but that's you know, but I think it's really I think they're very good. 00:48:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely on board with you on this one. You got it right. Congratulations. Okay, this one is from a listener named Ivan. Gift your a curse brushing your teeth in the shower curse and why. 00:48:50 Speaker 3: Because you know I have an electric toothbrush. I don't think that's right. I mean, I don't think it's dangerous necessarily because they're all the toothbrush itself. It's kind of like it's meant to get wet, so it's actually okay. But I don't know. I think anybody who brushes their teeth in the showers, I don't. I think it's wrong. It's to me that's quite military, like it means like you were probably in the armed forces. It seems kind of like a it's like a wartime journalist activity, you know, like if you are maybe working for some kind of I don't know, maybe National Geographic or something like that, or you're working for CNN something like that, maybe then it's okay. But or in a field hospital possibly, I think it's cursed. Though. I don't think brushing your teeth in the shower is good. No, no, you got it, Okay, great. 00:49:56 Speaker 2: The shower should be a place where you essentially are relaxing. I don't need the work. I don't need the work of brushing my teeth. I save that for the sink. Also, the shower, I feel like that's a bacteria nightmare. Right. 00:50:08 Speaker 3: I don't want to be cleaning my mouth in the share like you want to. I just think it's weird. I mean, I think that if you're cleaning your mouth, you should be focused on cleaning your mouth. Also, my toothbrush makes sounds corresponding to where in your mouth you should be at that time. Oh wow, So it has like a kind of like. It also has kind of emojis. So if I didn't brush long enough, it'll give me like a frowny fae like. It's a very like judgmental tooths. 00:50:37 Speaker 2: A toothbrush for an eleven year old. 00:50:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a like. It tells me how I'm supposed to brush my I'm grateful for it, but it's a very you know, it's a it's a hard talking toothbrush. 00:50:48 Speaker 2: I would love to have a toothbrush tell me what to do. 00:50:50 Speaker 3: It's very good. 00:50:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like brushing your teeth in the shower unless you're a detective or something like on the case. You don't have time. You just ate a steak and a coffee and now you got to brush your teeth in the shower. 00:51:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. It's like kind of like using bar soap for shipoo. 00:51:08 Speaker 2: Oh, that to me is you've hit rock Bobby. 00:51:11 Speaker 3: That's awful. 00:51:12 Speaker 2: And oh I can't imagine. I yes, there are people out there that they just use one soap for the entire shower experience and it makes no sense to me. 00:51:22 Speaker 3: I mean unless it's from Lush and you have like a special like canster for it, right, you know that, maybe then it's okay. I don't know. Maybe if it's I think also, that's also very field hospital, foreign correspondent, war time photographer kind of behavior. 00:51:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the sort of thing that you just have no choice. But when you're in the comfort of your home, you don't want you're not washing your hair with a bar of ices spread no, good grief, it's so. 00:51:53 Speaker 3: It's not good. No, no, no, no. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: Okay, well you've got two out of two so far. This is very exciting. So yeah, just be an extra careful on this last one. A listener named Katie has suggested gift or a curse, preparing the coffee pot the night before, so you just have to press the button in the morning. 00:52:13 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a gift. I think that's great. That's a kin to laying out your clothes before the day before. I think that if you wake up in the morning, your coffee is like ready to go in. All if you do is to push that button, because it reminds what I will do. Also is I will start my rice the day before. I'll rinse it out and soak it. Oh if I'm making like sticky. 00:52:37 Speaker 2: Rice, and what difference does that make? 00:52:41 Speaker 3: Well, it just ticky rice needs to be soaked anyway in order to have that sort of sticky, kiable quality. Yeah, so to stick together that kind of thing. So to prepare it correctly, you should have at least four hours of soaking time. But I also just like to really have the right cooker ready with my even when I'm not making a sticky rice, when we're just making regular white race, I like to clean it and get it ready for the next day. But coffee, I think is a great idea. So I would say, that's a gift, Margaret. 00:53:15 Speaker 2: You were doing so well and now you've gotten it wrong. Oh no, it's a curse. I don't look, I have to do it at some point anyway. It's either going to happen at night or in the morning. The night thing, I'm going to forget about it, and then it's something that I wake up disappointed about. It's just another horrible way to start the day. I why not just you know, I can't count on myself at night. I'm getting sleepy, I am forgetting things. I've got other things going on. I don't want to have another a final chore at the end of the day that easily be forgotten and then ruin my I mean, it creates a cycle that will probably be inescapable. I'm not into it. 00:53:52 Speaker 1: Curse. 00:53:53 Speaker 3: It's a curse, but I'm. 00:53:57 Speaker 2: Going to see it my way I. 00:53:59 Speaker 3: Do with you. It's a curse. But I also think it's a gift because I mean, it's really like, do you ever lay your clothes out the day before? 00:54:06 Speaker 2: I've never really done that, Because I feel like emotionally at night, I'm in a different place. I don't know how I'm going to feel how about how I'm gonna dress the next day, you know. I want in the morning, I want to think about how I'm feeling, what the weather looks like the night before, anything would change. But you lay your clothes out. 00:54:27 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, sometimes I'll put put together a jaunty outfit and then I'll be really rare and to go. Can't wait to wear that. It's like schooled new, like a new student at a new school, kind of feelings that I have, like a new day. Like it's kind of I don't know, even if it's just me to go outside to check out my Gulf Stream litter box that I made for my cats, I just you know, I want to have that, you know, and my cats, you know, so they can sit all on my body so they have a nice like different texture to put their butt on. I like to have like a different pant. So it's nice. 00:55:01 Speaker 2: It's good to think about your cats. But the night before, yeah, I think that that's very sweet. Well you got two out of three, right, you know, you didn't win, but you did fine. 00:55:12 Speaker 3: It was fair. I did fair. 00:55:14 Speaker 2: You did fair. It did absolutely fair. This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No Emails. People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. Every one of them has some issue in their life that they need sorting out. They turn to somebody that they trust, me my guests, who they may or may not trust. But that's, you know, the thrill of a podcast. Will you answer a question with me? 00:55:38 Speaker 3: I would love that. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: All right, this says Bridger. I need your help. I'm usually really good at giving thoughtful and meaningful gifts. Valentine's Day is coming up, that's true, and I want to help my daughter pick out something for her dad. Some facts. Number one her father and I. Okay, her father and I are recently divorced. Number Two, she and I spent hours on a fill in the Answers book about quote why my dad is so amazing unquote as a Christmas gift for him. Number Three, he spent hours cheating on me. Okay, okay, So this is this person's telling a story they're really letting just laying it out. I want to continue helping her and my one year old daughter produce thoughtful gifts for their father, but I'm just not sure what to do in this situation. Please help. Thanks. And that's from Christine. So Christine has you know, there's a real turn here that Christine threw in wants a gift for the father from the daughter for Valentine's Day. The father has apparently just very recently cheated, right, and apparently the divorce was a snap. We're here recording in January. I mean, I don't know what the timeline is, and I'm not going to pretend that I do. All we know, the only real facts we have are there, there's a family. 00:57:05 Speaker 3: In crisis, and they need a gift, and. 00:57:08 Speaker 2: They need a gift and it needs to be thoughtful. But the feeling I'm getting from Christina is that she also wants some level of spite. 00:57:16 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yeah, Like how about some Circus peanuts I really hate that, you know, like a candy, but a terrible candy like Circus peanuts I think are just awful or French peanuts. Have you ever had those peanuts French? I don't know if they're like anything from the Bronx line of like butterscotch kind of. I do like a Bronx, like like a cinnamon bear, like the Big Cinema. 00:57:46 Speaker 2: I love those, And they made some like weird licorice at some point that I remember liking. 00:57:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they have like the butterscotch, which is just awful, and so I would do like that, or like maybe a circus candy corn. 00:58:05 Speaker 2: It can sell corn. What do you think of a cherry cordial? 00:58:09 Speaker 3: I actually do like a cherry. 00:58:10 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. 00:58:12 Speaker 3: They're so gross, but I do like it. 00:58:14 Speaker 2: I think of them as kind of the Christmas Holidays version of the Circus peanut, kind of like this candy that's like, why do we still give. 00:58:21 Speaker 3: This horrible, horrible candy? Also the violet gum. Oh, that's a really awful flavored. Yeah, anything like that is like a terrible or I would say something if you could find some kind of awful candy flavor. 00:58:40 Speaker 2: Do they sell Neco wafers in bulk? 00:58:45 Speaker 3: Those are just awful? 00:58:46 Speaker 2: Those are It's the taste of Mother's purse. It's the worst candy in the world. 00:58:52 Speaker 3: Is it antacid? Is it chalk? 00:58:55 Speaker 2: It's absolutely chalk. Just have a thumbs it's I. 00:58:58 Speaker 3: Mean, I do like a sweet tart. Do you remember those? 00:59:01 Speaker 2: Oh? I love a sweet tart, but I like a sour thing. I do like sour and they're not too chalky. They have like a smoothness. 00:59:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like a necho wafer is just a you know what's awful, a chocolate necho. 00:59:15 Speaker 2: Oh, because you're hoping this will at least have something that I can respond to out of this horrible package, and it's somehow worse than the other flavors. 00:59:25 Speaker 3: It's like a I don't know, it's like a you who, but in tablet form, yes, but you it's a kind of good actually, but I don't. 00:59:34 Speaker 2: Mind you who. I like a malted chocolate. 00:59:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the neck of chocolate waf is just I would s yeah, I would sort of go for that kind of vein of candy where it's just or if they have like a bugs in candy, you know how they have like a scorpion in a lollipop. 00:59:53 Speaker 2: Or right, or like ants in a I don't know, other hard candy. 00:59:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, although ants have I have Sometimes they have a multi multic acid flavor, so they'll have almost like a sour patch kids flavor. 01:00:08 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. That sounds lovely. 01:00:10 Speaker 3: So ants their internal organs often have like a mouth watering lemonhead kind of a flavor. 01:00:20 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds fantastic. I need to get into this. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: They're kind of good. 01:00:23 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think what we're talking about. Conversation hearts are awful. 01:00:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are awful. 01:00:30 Speaker 2: They are kind of like a necho. 01:00:32 Speaker 3: They are sort of necho like ends because you know, after they've punched out the neck away first, I bet they have a lot of ends that they make into this conversation. Why are those conversations are somehow the symbol of Valentine's? 01:00:46 Speaker 2: They know, they're the absolute worst candy you could possibly imagine. 01:00:50 Speaker 3: So those are the ones that you should get. Get him like a pound. 01:00:55 Speaker 2: There's thirty pounds of conversation hearts that you have to do away with. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: It's a horrible, horrible thing. 01:01:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's perfect. Valentine's really does open itself up to giving away candy, and the expectation is hopefully to get a nice box of chocolates or whatever, and suddenly you just have all of these little you know, the necho gruel as you've basically described. 01:01:19 Speaker 3: So disgusting. So that's a gift. 01:01:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's perfect. Just dump a bag of that on his porch and take off. Perfect And he can't complain it's coming from his daughter. Yeah, and then he's got something to share with his mistress or whatever you're doing here. Christine, You've got your answer and just I mean just in time. I hope you're grateful. I hope your ex husband gets what he gets. You know, there's only so much any of us can do at this point. That's right, Margaret. We did a perfect job with that. 01:01:55 Speaker 3: So good. 01:01:55 Speaker 2: You did a decent job with the game, and you're with the gift. I mean, this is what an experience this has been. It's my I mean, it's my first NFT. It's I'm so glad to increase my portfolio by fourteen million dollars. Incredible, And I've just had a lovely time with you. 01:02:15 Speaker 3: I had such a great time with you. 01:02:16 Speaker 2: Thank you, listener. It's time for the podcast to end. I know that you've been dreading this moment since you began playing it. You're sweating, it's increasing, you're panicking. You don't know what to do with the rest of your day. Ah, I go, but that is not my responsibility. It's yours. You have to take some responsibility for your own life, and I hope that you're doing a good job with that. Go on, take care of yourself. Goodbye. I said, no gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced and engineered by our dear friend Anna Lisa Nelson, and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts, that's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. You have to see the gifts. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do, considering everything I do for you. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midrol dot com slash ads. 01:03:33 Speaker 1: I invit, did you hear? Fund a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests. Your presences presents enough and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dare disobey me