1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, 5 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm bridgerd Wineker. What's 7 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: going on? There's almost nothing going on? I well, we're 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: here together, we're building our life together. Unless you're new 9 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: to the podcast, in which case I've got my eye 10 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: on you. But otherwise, I hope you're feeling okay. Let's 11 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: get into the podcast. I want to talk to our guests, 12 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: who I find extremely funny. Everyone loves her. It's Margaret 13 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: Joe Margaret. Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 14 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: Thank you? Hi. Hi, how are you? I'm doing great? 15 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: How are you? 16 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. I've got I've had a weird start 17 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: to the year where it felt like this office that 18 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm currently in flooded at which the listener's probably so 19 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: tired of hearing about at this point. But now kind 20 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: of nothing is going on, so I feel like I 21 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: need an in between of things happening in my. 22 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: Life right, Well, it already started off very difficult this year, 23 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: and then it's just very strange. But I think we'll 24 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: get through it. I mean, we'll be okay. 25 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: I think we'll be okay. How was your twenty twenty one? 26 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: My twenty twenty one was? It was interesting because I 27 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: spent some of it actually on the road I did 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: a lot of movies and shooting out on location, from 29 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: Fire Island to Recovec to Syracuse and all over the place. 30 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: And then I was actually able to go out and 31 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: do stand up comedy, which is great. But then now 32 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: everything is kind of shut down again. And I was 33 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: supposed to go on tour in January, but now that's 34 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: moved to hopefully February, so we'll see. I would love 35 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: to keep going out again because I had a bit 36 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: of a taste of normalcy, but then it was dashed. 37 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: I feel like mid February should be okay. 38 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: I guess so. I mean, I think I've also just 39 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: gotten so paranoid about everything too, because I was able 40 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: to avoid COVID I think the whole time, and then 41 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: still avoided it and now everybody around me has had it. 42 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: But you know, I just still like still haven't gotten it. 43 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: I really don't want to get it. We'll see. 44 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: So what is your day to day like now? 45 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: Well, I still do work, Like this week, I spent 46 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: working on the Orville Pek video Fantastic. He's fantastic early 47 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: adopter with the masks. He's been wearing a mask since 48 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 3: before everything, so that's great. And I worked on the 49 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: Talk That TV show right, and so it's been a 50 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: kind of a busy week. I also changed my cast 51 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: litter box outside to a it looks like a gulf stream. 52 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: It's so adorable. So it looks like they're in the 53 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: music video for Time after Time with Cyndy lapp Or. 54 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: It's so cute because I really wanted to get them 55 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: a nice outdoor little boxes. They have a really fabulous 56 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: cadio and they're litter box. When it rains, it gets 57 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: full of water and so it's quite frustrating. So I thought, 58 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: I've got to get some kind of thing that's like 59 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: a litter box that doesn't get water at it, and 60 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: so I found one that's like a gulf street. 61 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: So it's like, how big is this litter box? 62 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: It's about maybe twenty by thirty inches, but it's all 63 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: it's all contained. It's in like a little trailer. So 64 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: they go in, I'll be in my trailer. You know, 65 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: there's show biz, there's so show bus. My cats. They're like, 66 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: I'll be in my trailer and they'll go in the 67 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: little like port window and then do their business and 68 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: come back out. So then and then there's a door 69 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 3: and that I can clean it. So I'm really excited 70 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: about it. 71 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: That's a huge development for you. 72 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, any kind of cat development has been really major. 73 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: So this is like a very They're they're actually like 74 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: boycotting three of the litter boxes because I had the 75 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: audacity to put pine litter instead of clay litter and 76 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: they don't like the feeling of it under their little 77 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: delicate pause. 78 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: So your are your cats indoor outdoor cats? 79 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Well, they're indoor, but they have a mid century outdoor 80 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: cadeo that has a wooden tunnel. That's I mean, it's 81 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: so beautiful. It really looks like this was designed by 82 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: Frank Lloyd Wright. Like it's so beautiful the cadeo. It's 83 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: actually been on like television shows and stuff what because 84 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: it's such a nice cateo that nobody has a caddo 85 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: like this. Because it's got. It's got like that they have. 86 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: They have a cat casino. So all their dry food, 87 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: which they can only have out of the casino, is 88 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 3: all these like cat food toy puzzles. That's they're all 89 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: like rigged up, and so they can only get dry 90 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: food if they play the casino games. And then there's 91 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: their cat wheel, which is like a hamster wheel, but 92 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: it's a giant one for cats, right, and so they 93 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: can run on that on the side. And then they 94 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: have their little elliptical climbing machine next to it. So 95 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: they have a gym the casino, and then their cadio. 96 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: But then when it's a little bit colder out because 97 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: they're hairless, they don't go out as much, except maybe 98 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: they'll go out to use the Gulf stream bathroom. 99 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: Okay, And so back to this cat casino or is 100 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: it like are they playing the slots or is it 101 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: little it's. 102 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: Like slots, it's like roulette, I guess it's like food 103 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: on the dry food gets in wheels, and if they 104 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: spin the wheel, then a dry food will come into 105 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: the slot. So they have to really paw it and 106 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: spin it to get the dry food out. And so 107 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: they you know, because I don't like them to free feed, 108 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: but I do like to have food out for them. 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: So the compromise I made was, I'm going to give 110 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: them impetus exercise some motivation so they can play the 111 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: dry food game, and then they get their wet food 112 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: twice a day with special catered meals that I do 113 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: for them. 114 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: So you've just you've transformed them into compulsive gamblers. 115 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: They're gamblers. They're outdoor CaTiO enthusiasts. They also have a 116 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: little Japanese zekayah like a saki bar, and it's kind 117 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: of small, so they can only there can only be 118 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: one of them in there, but sometimes two of them 119 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: fitted and then there's a bar fight. 120 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: And did you get them at the same time? Are 121 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: they like actual siblings or twur siblings? 122 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: One of them, the one of them is deaf, and 123 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: she has a lot of balance issues, and she broke 124 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: her leg and she's had some problems. So she has 125 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: her litter mate, her sister, who basically is her ears 126 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: for her and her kind of like, you know, just 127 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: her helper, and so they're they're absolutely inseparable. And then 128 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: I have a boy. He is a lie choi, so 129 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: he's shedding his fur right now. So he's about half bird, 130 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: and he's not from the same letter. He's a little 131 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: bit younger than they are. 132 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't think I've ever heard of this 133 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: sort of cat before. They have hair part of the 134 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: year and then shed it. 135 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: Yes, so he looks like a long cheney werewolf. Like 136 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 3: he's like a nineteen sixties hammer horror werewolf. He's only 137 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: got like hair around the sides of his face. He's 138 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: like very he's kind of like he could have been 139 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: a character on the Old like Adam west Batman. 140 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: Oh right, right, that sort. 141 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: Of like Technicolor World of Characters. He's very that and 142 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: he's a really he's a very interesting boy. They call 143 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: them wear wolf cats. It's a very strange, rare breed. 144 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: They're very interesting. 145 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's fascinating. Yes, okay, So besides just creating this 146 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: whole world for your cats, what else are you doing 147 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: to entertain yourself? 148 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: I have been eating a lot of bread. I bake 149 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: a loaf of bread every single day and eat the 150 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: whole thing, and then I make croutons and breadcrumbs out 151 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: of the rest. But I think sometimes I do get 152 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: in over my head with the bread and then I 153 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: go for walks with my Choua, which. 154 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: She's right here, say see if you'll say hi. 155 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: She's a really sweet girl. She's tired because we went 156 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: out today. We definitely have a good time to sluchi. 157 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: Ita it God bless sweet little person. 158 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: She's a really sweet girl. She's like the best. And 159 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: then so we go out do some voiceover things and 160 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: podcasting things. The first of my years started up very 161 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: strangely because I did the first thing I did was 162 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: Bob Saget's. 163 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: Podcas Yes, oh wow. 164 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: So that was last Monday, Oh my god. And so 165 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: him passing away on Sunday was really a shock. 166 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: Of course, you. 167 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: Know, I've known him for thirty something years, so it 168 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: was really a horrible way to kind of start the 169 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: year off is losing him. Well Betty White as well, right, 170 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: but she was also really amazing to have known her 171 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: for a long time. But Bob was great, and he 172 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: was so happy and so excited to go back out 173 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: on the road and do comedy. And it's really it's really. 174 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: Tragic, it really is. And I you know, everybody like 175 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: from every corner of comedy seems to have loved him. 176 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: He seems to have just been a very kind person. 177 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: So it's devastating to hear those. 178 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: So beloved, so warm, and just somebody that loved comedy. 179 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: So that was what was so great about him, is 180 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: that he was a big fan of comedy. Because you 181 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: know how comics are, like they just like hate comedy. 182 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Of course, Yes, I'm very familiar, personally familiar, you know 183 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: what I mean. 184 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: Like they're like, oh, you know, they just are so 185 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: against comedians and they hate comedy or they hate like 186 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: comedy as an art for you know, And I can 187 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 3: understand that point of view, like if you've been around comedy, 188 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: I know the feeling of like hating other comics. But 189 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: Bob was really he loved the art form of it, 190 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: and he loved other comics, and he loved all forms 191 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: of comedy, and he really was just such a great guy. 192 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: And so everybody's really feeling the loss, I think, very 193 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: very poignantly, right, Yeah, yeah, such. 194 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: A devastating loss. 195 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 196 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: Well, I am interested in hearing a little more about 197 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: your bread baking. Your baking is this a pandemic thing 198 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: or have you been making bread? 199 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: Yes, all of my cooking is pandemic based. But I 200 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: realized that it's a true art form that I really 201 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: got into, Like I just love it so much. I 202 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: have a special bread kloch, a terra cotta bread kloch. 203 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: I had my own starter, but my starter kind of 204 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: got away for me. I started the I had like 205 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 3: a regular starter that I did with like ryeflower, and 206 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: then I had a superstarter that was the Nancy Silverton 207 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: starter that I did with grapes, and I bult blended 208 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: them together after a while and I made this franken 209 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: starter that made the bread so sour and rose so fast, 210 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: like it was just so vigorous the yeast that I 211 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: just was like, I didn't want to use it, and 212 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: then I put it away and then it would just 213 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: kind of like row and ferment inside of the jar, 214 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: and it just got to the point where it was 215 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: just so vigorous. I didn't trust it right, and I 216 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: was like, this is like bigger than me. This has 217 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: become something that I have to release control, relinquished control. 218 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 3: I can't harness this east. It became a threat to me. 219 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: And then I was like should I dehydrate the east? 220 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: And then I was like, you know what, I'm not 221 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: gonna I'm not going to do that so I fostered 222 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: the East for like two years, and I realized I 223 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: had to just let it go because it was just 224 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 3: beyond my uh understanding of bread baking. And so now 225 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: I just use commercial yeast, which is great. I mean, 226 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: I know what I'm getting every time. But the wildiest, 227 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: you know, being the sobergy started that it does in 228 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 3: part of better flavor. But I think it's just so 229 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: you have to stay consistent with it. I just I 230 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: couldn't be bothered, but I do love baking. 231 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: When you say let it go, does that mean just 232 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: dump it in the trash. 233 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: I dumped it in the trash. I put it in 234 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: the It was in the garbage disposal. It was actually 235 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 3: kind of an awful and because I really had I 236 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: named it. I put them together and named it. It 237 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: was like a superstarter, and I really used it very 238 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: well for a while, but then, you know, I just 239 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: and then some people keep their starters for like hundreds 240 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: of years, right of course, you know, but I just 241 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: I didn't have I didn't have the capacity to do it, 242 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: so I might, you know, did beat dad of the start. 243 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: I m like, I didn't pay Yeast support. I didn't 244 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: want to, you know, keep on. I didn't. I didn't, 245 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, and they say, well, you should do something 246 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: with the discard, and that, you know, we should make 247 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: pancakes with the discard, make scallion pancakes with make discard cookies, 248 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: and I just didn't want to. I really refuse. And 249 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: then I felt like I was wasting a lot of 250 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: flour every day because you have to feed it to. 251 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Make all that up, those discard baking products that you're 252 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: essentially launching a business. At that point, yeah, I just was. 253 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: Like I don't want to. You know, I'm not going 254 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: to do it. And you know, I don't care how 255 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: convincing you are about the recipes that you can make 256 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: with the discard. To me, it's like it's just like 257 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: a waste. So I realized that somebody else is going 258 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: to have to do the star to starting, not not 259 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: I not I. 260 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: I would have preferred to hear that you had released 261 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: it into the woods or something. But what are you 262 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: going to do? 263 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: I was thinking about using it like on my plants, 264 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: but then I, you know, I'm like, so I don't 265 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: think that. I don't think my plants like it. 266 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: I mean plans, what does that? 267 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: Well, if you like put the discard in water and 268 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: then you pour that onto your plants. That's like a 269 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: good thing to do. 270 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I had no idea. 271 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just wouldn't. 272 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: It just seems like at some point you've got to 273 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: create some boundaries for yourself. 274 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: I really had to create some yeast boundaries and just 275 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: start using commercial yeast, which is fine. 276 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's no shame in that. 277 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: It's delicious and so and it still makes a tasty 278 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: bread and I don't have it doesn't have to be 279 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: very sour, and it's totally fine. So I'm very I'm 280 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: very happy. 281 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: And are you making sandwiches with the bread or are 282 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: you just eating the bread as sliced both? 283 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: I would what I was doing was just breaking open 284 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: the loaf like a wild animal and then eating it 285 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 3: with just like nothing. And then I had like butter 286 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: on it. And then I was doing butter and vegamite, 287 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: which I actually really find delicious sometimes marmite. And then 288 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: I started doing this thing where I would do sandwiches 289 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: with bree and like a apricot or raspberry jam and 290 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: then a balsamic reduction. 291 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds lovely. 292 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: So it was very sour but sweet but unctuous. So 293 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: that's kind of the vein I'm going in. I might 294 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: go in a ham direction at some point with that, 295 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: but I basically can find a sandwich and stick with 296 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: it for several months. 297 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very good at just eating the same thing 298 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: until it begins to make me feel sick when I'm 299 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: eating it, just to the point of nausea. It's like, yes, 300 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: flavor no longer works for me. 301 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: Yes, but I like to do like I like to 302 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: eat the same thing over and over. And I think 303 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: that would always bother people that I used to live with. 304 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: But now that I live alone with these cats and 305 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: this dog, they're not going to get any bread or 306 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: discard anything. They get their food. And I wish I 307 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: had a food that just had my picture on it, 308 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 3: you know that I could. 309 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: Grab a giant bag with your face. 310 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Like a Royal canaan Margaret know, adult dog, like adult 311 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 3: comedian bagged food, die cut food. I would be so 312 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: better off if I could just carry my food in 313 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 3: like a dry like a driversion or something that I 314 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: could reconstitute with water. I would be so happy. 315 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: It would cut down on having to make any decisions. 316 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: You just buy several bags or cans of it and 317 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: then you just pour it into your bowl and eat 318 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: it off the floor in the morning, right. 319 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: And I think it's just it's just it just cuts 320 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 3: down on the clutter of my life. If I just 321 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: have something like I don't have to make a decision. 322 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: My food is always going to be the same, so 323 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about anything else sort of 324 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: cluttering that sustenance. Right, you can just have the food 325 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: in that bag. So that's why the baking the bread. 326 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 3: It's kind of a ritualized thing where I can just 327 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: have the bread and then you know, I don't need 328 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: anything else. 329 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I allow one day to be one that requires 330 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: a decision. Dinner is the one meal where I get 331 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: to decide on it. The rest of breakfast and lunch 332 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: are basically the same thing every single day. 333 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: What do you have for breakfast in lunch? 334 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: For breakfast, I'll have a protein bar. For lunch a 335 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: protein shake, which has recently I think I've crossed the 336 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: threshold into like I'm gagging. I'm like this no longer 337 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: tastes even remotely pleasant to me anymore. This is disgusting. 338 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: Do you make it? 339 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Which I make it? 340 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: Do you look a smoothie. 341 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm putting like the powder. I put in a banana, 342 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: some cinnamon, some cocoa powder. Yeah, ice, I think that's 343 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: about it. I've started putting in blueberries, but I think 344 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: maybe it's because it's cold. Outside the idea of drinking 345 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: a cold shake where the flavor is not that pleasant. 346 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: It's just an awful experience. 347 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: But I love that. It's like the sustenance that you 348 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 3: know what it is, you know what it's going to be, 349 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: you know what's in it. 350 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: You can count on it. 351 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: You can count on it, and then then you're good 352 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: for like however long. So I love a shake too. 353 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: I have a juicer, so I'll do that with juice, 354 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 3: and that's like but that you have to be careful 355 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: because I'll do weird juice. Sometimes it's too green, like 356 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: I'll do tuma. I'll think I want all green juices, 357 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: and then it's just awful. 358 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: I get tempted when I'm putting in spinach or kale 359 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: into things. I think this so I can go a 360 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: little bit further. This time the flavor will be disguised, 361 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: and then I ruined the entire meal. 362 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: Then it's just so it's so green and granular, and 363 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: it's just, you know, I feel so like I can't 364 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: choke it down, and it's just awful. 365 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: Now it's citrus season, isn't it. 366 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: It is citrus season. 367 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: Are you enjoying any citruses? I had a nice orange 368 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: today and it was lovely. 369 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 3: I love a raspberry orange. Have you had those? It's 370 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: like a blood orange. 371 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: This is brand new to me, and I'm my heart 372 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: is pounding. 373 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: It's very sour. They're easy to peel. And although I 374 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: do get very squeamish when I have an orange and 375 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: I have to peel up, I will wear a glove. 376 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: Why because I don't want to get pith under my nails. 377 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 3: It's very upsetting. 378 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: I was going to say the smell is wonderful, But 379 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: the smell. 380 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 3: Is wonderful, but then I get sort of the pith 381 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: and zest under my nail nails, in my cuticles, and 382 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 3: then I can't do anything. 383 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Shut down for a week. 384 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: It's so unbearable. So I have actually, but I don't 385 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: want to waste gloves because I think they're kind of 386 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: like not. I don't want to, you know, have a 387 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: bunch of plastic in the garbage. So I have one orange. 388 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Glove, just like a reusable rubber glove. 389 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: My orange glove that I have in my orange bowl 390 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: that only has oranges because I don't refrigerate them either. 391 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, I like a nice room temperature orange. 392 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and it's like one of those things where 393 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: you can actually leave it out like most citrus, you 394 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: can actually just leave it out as long as you 395 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: use it, like within a reasonable time. 396 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: Right. 397 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: So, but yeah, I definitely have to recommend the raspberry along. 398 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: You glad you're bringing it back because I thought we 399 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: were just going to speed past it. What is the 400 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: difference between that and a blood orange? 401 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: It's pretty much a lighter It's not as dark red, right, 402 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: It's got a little bit of a sweeter, a little 403 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 3: lighter quality. They are. I think it's like, I don't know, 404 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: it's one of those modern kinds of weird hybrids, like 405 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: a cotton candy grape. It's like a strange like hybrid 406 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: fruit that is kind of a newish varietal, but really 407 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: quite popular and really delicious and very in season right now. 408 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: So they're on sale everywhere. 409 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got to track those down. Are you one 410 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: of these people that knows every type of apple variety? 411 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: Well, not every type, but I do have my favorites. 412 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 3: I do like a honey crisp apple. I think there's 413 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: nothing better because the cell walls are made to hold 414 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: more water. Oh that's why they're so juicy when you 415 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: bite into them. And there's something about the cell walls 416 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: that are bred in that. The way that they do it. 417 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: I'm not sure how they splice these jeans, these apple 418 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: jeans together, but they they did it. So it's just 419 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: the cell says. You know what the worst is Biting 420 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: into a mealy apple? 421 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: Awful, a gas station apple. 422 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 3: A gas station red delicious. 423 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: Just pure hell. 424 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 3: It's the worst. It's like why, But honey crisp it 425 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: stays pretty pristine for quite a long time too. So 426 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: you have a good apple, a good eating apple, for 427 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 3: quite you know, for your money. It's a bang for you. 428 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: Bup. I don't know that I've ever had a honey crisp, 429 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: and people rave and rave and rave, but I think 430 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: it's because I like a green apple, so I've never 431 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: I love. 432 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: A green apple. I love a Granny Smith as Granny Smith, 433 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 3: you know, like a apple you would want to bake 434 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: into a pie. That's a wonderful apple. 435 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: A delicious apple gives you the feeling of walking through 436 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: an orchard and you know, finding your delicious apple. 437 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: And the Grannysmith apple. It's very seventies. 438 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: Oh completely, It's got a real classic vibe. 439 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: It's very classics for seventies. It's like, you know, you 440 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: want to eat that with like a big piece of 441 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: white cheddar cheese. 442 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: Oh ah, that sounds phenomenal. 443 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: Walking in mirror woods with an older gentleman that you 444 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: have a little bit of a questionable relationship with, you know, 445 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: it's a kind of like like, you know, it's a 446 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: little bit inappropriate seventies moment. You're all wearing a denim 447 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 3: shirt but not jeans, like like either leather pants, not 448 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: in like a Jim Morrison or like a gothway, but 449 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: like a leather like a brown leather. 450 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: Right, kind of a person of the woods. 451 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, man of the woods, like a Walden pond. 452 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: Do you know what now that we're talking about this 453 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: one apple I never want to see again is a 454 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: golden apple? 455 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's not good. 456 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: No that I don't know that anyone enjoys that apple. 457 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: It's just it's the melely version of a green out. 458 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 3: It's like a yellow like it's not good. 459 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: It's just not a good school lunch or something. 460 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 3: It's a horrible school lunch apple. It's a horrible government 461 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: issue apple. But nobody wants no. I just think those 462 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 3: apples are are fine for baking like pie. They're good 463 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: for juicing. Oh, sure, those apples are good for apples us, 464 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, or for Halloween, you know. Hiding a razor blade. 465 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: For endangering the neighborhood children, I. 466 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: Always like was questioning, like what that actually did that 467 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: actually happen and somebody actually put razor blades in apples? 468 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: I mean you could see them. 469 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: I recently learned that was a myth, or at least 470 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: like maybe it happened once and it got blown up 471 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: into this thing that was like everything has a razor 472 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: blade in it. 473 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: Yes, or drugs, Like they're not going to put drugs 474 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: in they candy. 475 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: They want they're valuable, drugs valuable? 476 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: Why would you give them to children? No way? 477 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: Take one? Please? No? I think. I mean the thing 478 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: I appreciated about the razor blade myth is, at least 479 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: as a kid, it provided this extra sense of fear 480 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: and danger, like a little excitement when you were trick 481 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: or treating. There's always the danger that you was going 482 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: to kill you. 483 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: Frison, Yes, frizzon. I was listening to Andre Leon Talley's 484 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: book and he says frizzle and I'm like, oh, yes, 485 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: that's it, that's the word that is it is Frison 486 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: for Halloween? Is that a little bit of danger that 487 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: you need to make it so exciting? 488 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: Exactly? Now, I could go on and on about apples, 489 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: as I've demonstrated in various fruits. We don't have time 490 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: for that. I need to get into something with you. Now. 491 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: You agreed to be on this podcast in the last 492 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: month or so. It's impossible to say at this point 493 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 2: when anything has happened. But I was really excited. I thought, 494 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Margaret is outstanding, She's so funny. We're going to have 495 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: a great time. Everything will be pleasant, no feelings will 496 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: be hurt, and we'll move on with our lives. And uh, 497 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: today I was, you know, tooling around the house. I 498 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: was finishing up some work and I got an email 499 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: for my producer On Aalise. The podcast is called I 500 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: said no gifts, and so I was a little surprised 501 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: when and bless On Aalise, they really do try to 502 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: protect my feelings. But in this situation, I get this 503 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: email that says do not open until recording. Margaret chose 504 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: gifts yes, and so I, you know, I kind of 505 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: just collapsed on the floor and just laid there for 506 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: a while and tried to gather my energy back and 507 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: just straightened myself out emotionally and said, you know, I'm 508 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: just gonna get on the podcast. I'm gonna confront Margaret. Margaret, 509 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: I don't even have to ask. You've obviously sent me 510 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: a gift. Do you want me to open it here 511 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: on the podcast? Is there some little what is this 512 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: an attention grab? I don't know what I'm we're doing. 513 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: Well, I've sent you an NFT. 514 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding, and it's. 515 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: It's actually not really an NFT. It is, but it's 516 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: my version of an NFT and that non vungeable token. 517 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: People are buying them from millions of dollars. Basically, what 518 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: it is is that you can't really send them because 519 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 3: you can't really you know, the whole idea that the 520 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: Internet is public space, and an NFT is really saying no, 521 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: it's actually not. You can't actually own part of the Internet. 522 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: So I was trying to make you an NFT for 523 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: real through these like blockchain sites. And then I just 524 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: got really confused, and I thought, well, if I just 525 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 3: make an NFT and draw it and then send it, 526 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: then there's still some copying, so it's still it's not 527 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: exactly a traditional art. But if you promise not to 528 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: send it to anybody, and I don't send it to anybody, 529 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: then we're the only ones that have it. So we've 530 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: made a little with slight, slightly fungible token. 531 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: Well, I want to open it up and see what 532 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: this NFT looks like. You can go, We're down. Oh, 533 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: I love this. 534 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: It's of a it's of my alter ego, Lotti, and 535 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: I drew it. It's a it's a bit of a painting, 536 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: but I painted it with old makeup that is expired 537 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: and I'm using as paint in tribute to Jerome Kaja, 538 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: who is a very talented makeup artist who was round 539 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 3: in the eighties and San Francisco, and he did a 540 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: lot of great work with expired nail polish and expired makeup. 541 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: So it's my alter ego that I'm Lottie, who is 542 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: a witch. She is a crafty witch and like in 543 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: the craft. I think that there should be the craft 544 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: and then the craft is basically they get their power 545 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 3: mostly because they're teen witches, sort of like when you 546 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: have puberty, you're in a lot of like power, like 547 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: you know how they say that there's like people who 548 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: are in puberty cause poultergeists, Oh is that true? It's 549 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: a very pig thing. So I think that if you're 550 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: in puberty and you cause pultry gris, you must be 551 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: in really good, spiritual, crazy shape if you're in menopause. 552 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: So Lotti's in menopause. So she's that kind of a witch. 553 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: And so that's a portrait of her with my expired makeup. 554 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the listener, it's essentially a woman in a 555 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: kind of what color would you say, a pinky yeah, 556 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: pink is it's. 557 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 3: Like an expired lipstick. It's like a house dress. Yeah, 558 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 3: kind of a frizzy crazy hair. 559 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: And a nice red lip. 560 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: Yes, which is probably nail polish or something. 561 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 2: And then some stockings and then it says Lotti at 562 00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: the bottom. 563 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's lotty. 564 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: So this is now I mean, as far as you 565 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: or I are concerned, this is an NFT. 566 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if we just agree to make this an NFT, 567 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: that it's an FT. I mean, of course I could 568 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: do it with the blockchain, but it's just it's easier 569 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: to do it this way, so we just do it 570 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: this way. 571 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: Tell me about the process you tried to go through 572 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: to because I don't know anything about any of this, 573 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: and it's so baffling. 574 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: It's so baffling. So and you couldn't even buy it, 575 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: like if I made it, you could make it for free, 576 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: but then somebody has to buy it. And then you 577 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: can't even buy it with money. You have to buy 578 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: it with bitcoin, which is like so confusing to me. 579 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: I don't understand cryptocurrency. I don't understand any of this stuff. 580 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 3: It's so confusing. So I just thought, why don't I 581 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: just simplify it and just say what it is? Like 582 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: who cares? It's great? But I think this is like 583 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: I think it's supposed to be. Like the idea that 584 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: the Internet doesn't have to be an open area it 585 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: can actually be closed off is sort of an interesting idea, 586 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: and I like that idea. 587 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 2: Right, And so I mean it all is kind of imaginary. 588 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you're kind of just value as being placed 589 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: on things. Randomly, and I feel like I'm I mean, 590 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: just to get ahead of this, I'm going to say 591 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: that this piece is worth about fourteen million dollars. That's right, 592 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: And now it is, this NFT is a fourteen million 593 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: dollar piece. I feel like I'm setting my email up 594 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: to for some sort of heist situation, some sort of 595 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: electronic hest where the NFT is stolen, right, right, But 596 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's the that's the danger of 597 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: owning art. 598 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: Well, it is a danger, I mean. And also it's 599 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: like the odd thing about art is like, why is 600 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: art valuable? I guess we put value on things because 601 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: the art is just famous, or because it's it's got 602 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 3: sentimental value to us or something. But you know, NFT, 603 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: I guess, I guess you can just put value on 604 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: it because we say that there's value. But I still 605 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 3: don't understand. That's why. I just some things are hard 606 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 3: for me to get, like that, the idea of things 607 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: having value just because it's a societal agreement that it has. 608 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: Value, right, I mean, even to the point of money. 609 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's all just kind of imaginary, right. But 610 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 2: NFTs is just such a clear new thing that somebody 611 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: just decided this is going to be a thing that's 612 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: valuable despite not really providing any sort of service or anything, 613 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 2: and also being easily copied. 614 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: Right, But that's why they have blockchain technology, so you 615 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 3: can't copy it. 616 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: But what does that mean? 617 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. You can only pay for it through cryptocurrency, 618 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: which is I don't even know what that means. I'm like, what, 619 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: it's all these imaginary things to create imaginary things, and 620 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 3: I don't understand. But it's going to take a long 621 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 3: time to upload, that's all I knows. 622 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: What I'm questioning is is I'm going to want to 623 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: show this picture to viewers on Instagram, but I don't 624 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 2: want it. I don't want the NFT to lose the 625 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: fourteen million dollar valuation. 626 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: But I think you can do it because like, do 627 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: you remember there was that artist who was doing photos 628 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: on Instagram and then putting them in a gallery. No, 629 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: and there are photos that he didn't take, but he 630 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: had posted them to his Instagram, which made them his property. 631 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: So when you post things that are copyrighted to somebody 632 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: else and then you post them through your social media, 633 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 3: then it becomes your intellectual property or something like that. 634 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: Like he won some crazy lawsuit to allow him to 635 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: use images that he did not actually photograph in an 636 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 3: art exhibit because it was like once art once removed, 637 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: so it was like the viewer once removed. So it 638 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 3: was this whole thing. Like it's like Jeff Coons, you know, 639 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 3: the guy that had like all of the sort of 640 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 3: his big claim to fame with all of these crazy 641 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: like ceramic sculptures of Michael Jackson. 642 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: And were like the balloon dogs or well. 643 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: The balloon dogs there were giant balloon animals. And he 644 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 3: didn't create any of the work. He actually had it 645 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: made for him. But yeah, they're just people like a 646 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: factory somewhere that made all of that. He wasn't the 647 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 3: actual sculptor or taking all of that bone china and 648 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: putting it together, none of that. He's not a seramesist. 649 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: He's not handy in that way. But he just laid 650 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 3: claim to the work saying that it was his. So 651 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 3: you know, it's like Damien Hurst, who created I guess 652 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: probably his most famous work is the kind of emoji 653 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: art album cover for Drake with all like emoji women. 654 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: Is that you know that that's like to me, well, 655 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: you're basically taking uh, sort of the style and reworking it. 656 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: But it's not a style that originated from him. 657 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: Right, it's kind of just a repurposed. 658 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 3: It's a repurposed idea. I mean, I actually do think 659 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 3: Damien Hurst is an interesting artist. Like he would do 660 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: like big, very controversial shows where he would show like 661 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 3: a cow sow it in half, oh and like basketball 662 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: saw it in half, and like a shark saw it 663 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: in half, and then like sitting in formaldehyde, and that 664 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 3: would be the show. And to me that it's an 665 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 3: affront to my senses. Also, you didn't create that shark. 666 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: You didn't create that cow sawing. I don't think so. 667 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: I think this is all sort of like outsourced somewhere else. 668 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: He founded someone to saw them for it. 669 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 3: But the idea is his, so I guess that's his art. 670 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I have a picture. I have a 671 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 3: Damien Hurst. Actually that's actually a photograph of him with 672 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 3: decapitated head from some kind of an accident, some sort 673 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 3: of I know, there's an auto accident and it's really 674 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 3: gory and really crazy and it's like a very I 675 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: don't know why I have this. It's a very strange. 676 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 677 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 2: Why do you have it hanging in your house? 678 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 3: Yes, it's hanging, well, it's it's on a picture rail. 679 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: It's not really hanging, but it's there. And I'm like, 680 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: why do I have this? But it has value and 681 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: I have it, and you know, I don't really know. 682 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 3: So there's like certain artists that you're like, I guess 683 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: there's an emotional charge attached to it and a monetary 684 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 3: value to the name, right, So those are what gives 685 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: value to it. And I guess any sort of art 686 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 3: that is arrest to the spirit, I guess is worthwhile. 687 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 2: It's valuable in that way. That's where it creates its value. Yes, 688 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: Now do you feel like you're going to get sucked 689 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: into buying an NFT at some point or are you 690 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 2: swearing it off? 691 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: Well, I just don't know how to figure out cryptocurrency either, 692 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 3: like that. Somebody actually tried to pay me for a 693 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: show in like bitcoin, and I should have taken it 694 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: because I probably would be worth more now, but I 695 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: just didn't understand it, and so I couldn't get my 696 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: mind around any of this sort of like, well, how 697 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 3: do I take it? So, yes, I'll take it, and 698 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 3: then where do I put it? 699 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: You know, you can't you lose it in your inbox. 700 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in there somewhere. But it's like, how do 701 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: you know how how you would store something like that? 702 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: I don't know how you would pay for things with it. 703 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 704 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 2: So the producer of a comedy show was trying to 705 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: pay a bitcoin or was it like a yes, wow? 706 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 3: It was a tech company show, of course, so they 707 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 3: were like offering bitcoin for it, and so I just 708 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 3: I didn't understand the process, so I didn't go for it. 709 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 2: I think that that's completely fair. Yeah, it seems that 710 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 2: the value of that seems to be all over the place. 711 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: Well, I have a problem with like decluttering, which is 712 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 3: I declutter the wrong things, and so maybe it would 713 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: be good to give me something that I can't really 714 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 3: throw away, like bitcoin. I guess because I threw away 715 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: boxed mac Apple items from nineteen ninety three that I 716 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: had been given in lieu of payment. I did a 717 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: commercial from Apple when they didn't have any money. 718 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: These tech companies are paying you in the strangest ways. 719 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: So they gave me boxes of special cameras and laptops 720 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: that they had never actually produced, and I had them 721 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: in their boxes stacked up and I just threw them out, oh, 722 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 3: because I didn't think that they would be of any mail. 723 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: You when did you throw them away? 724 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 3: I think I threw them away in like two thousand 725 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 3: and two. Oh, and you know, people are like what 726 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 3: and I didn't even know what they were, but they 727 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 3: were just things in their boxes that Apple had produced 728 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 3: that never actually went anywhere, so, you know, just weird 729 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: like CD ROM kind of thing, like weird, like old tech. 730 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 3: I also threw away a bunch of Beetles sheets that 731 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: had like the names of the Beatles and then the 732 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: hotel they stayed in, and like little pieces of their sheets. 733 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 3: I got those back after I. 734 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: Threw them all. 735 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 3: I don't know how I got them back, but they're 736 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 3: in my bathroom now. Those are really nice. 737 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 2: You need just an assistant to value your things before 738 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: you throw them away. This is the theme of this 739 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: entire episode. As you're throwing away things. 740 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 3: I threw away things. It's all throwing away. Well, it's 741 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 3: like I also had a big thing of throwing away 742 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 3: a lot of my clothes, not throwing the way I 743 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: gave them away. I was decluttering all of my closets, 744 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 3: and I gave everything to the thrift store. But I 745 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 3: realized that I had put in a box of sex toys, 746 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 3: like a bunch of vibrators with no charger, like sad 747 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 3: sex toys that never will be used. And I just 748 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 3: put them in the box and I put them all 749 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 3: and they all went to the thrift store. And then 750 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 3: I was so in a pickle, like should I go back? No? 751 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: No, oh, certainly not. 752 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 3: You know, I apologize. I didn't mean to give them 753 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 3: all of these. I guess they're used to it. I 754 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: don't know. 755 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: I thought that happens pretty frequently, right. 756 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, people put sort of things, you know, to declutter, 757 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 3: and they. 758 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 2: Right accidentally send a drawer of dildos. 759 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 3: Or whatever something. 760 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, but good for you for decluttering. I'm having 761 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 2: a very difficult time doing that. I have a really 762 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 2: hard time time doing that with clothing, with shoes. I mean, 763 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: some of my shoes barely qualify even as sandals at 764 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 2: this point, but I'm holding onto them. It's a hard 765 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 2: thing to do to get rid of things. 766 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah it is. It's hard, but I also have so 767 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: many things that I need to stop. And this is 768 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 3: what I hate gifts too, because I have I have 769 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 3: like a feeling like I have to keep them, of course, 770 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: because people gave them to me, and if I care 771 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 3: and like the person, which I always do, then I 772 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 3: want to keep them. And then I'm stacked full of 773 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 3: stuff that I don't want around here. 774 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: Yes, a thing in the last couple of years that 775 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: I've a skill, I've developed it at the very least 776 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: is throwing away like birthday cards and this kind of thing. 777 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: If unless they have like a long message in them, 778 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: it's going directly into the garbage. You're not going to 779 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 2: fill up a box in my closet with birthday cards 780 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 2: or whatever. 781 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, it's it's very It's it's hard though, 782 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: Like some things like I have that are kind of 783 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 3: gross that I should get rid of, but I don't 784 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 3: want to. Like I have a box of candies from 785 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,479 Speaker 3: Anna Nicole Smith, oh my God, that I got from 786 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 3: doing her television show I remember the Anal. 787 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: Show, of course, the reality show. 788 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 3: The reality show, and I have them stacked up. There's 789 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 3: actually three boxes of candies and the candy still in there. 790 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 2: You should open a museum. 791 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 3: I should. I should just get rid of the candy, 792 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: but I can't even bear to even open it. Like 793 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 3: it's just too. It's so uh, it is very sentimental, 794 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 3: especially when the people die, You're like, oh god, I 795 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 3: should right. 796 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 2: What kind of candies are they? 797 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 3: I think they're like Jordan aumand those are rock hard 798 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 3: at this point, I mean that you break teeth if 799 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 3: you even try. I don't even think anybody should try 800 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 3: to eat them, or maybe they'll stay forever. Who knows. 801 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 2: What were you doing on her show? 802 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't know that that show was interesting because it 803 00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: was her and China the wrestler right died, also died 804 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: my friend Kathy Griffin right, and also Bruce Daniels, my 805 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 3: other friend, And it was Anna and her I think 806 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 3: her cousin and her chihuahua Sweetie Chihuahua. I think her 807 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 3: chihaha sweety Pie, something like that. 808 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 2: Okay. The only memory I have of her reality show 809 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: is that she went somewhere in the valley and had 810 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: a pasta eating contest, and so it was just like 811 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: a full episode of her and a couple other people 812 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 2: just eat eating as much pasta as they No, that's nice, Yeah, 813 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 2: just a little weird reality TV moment. Okay, I think 814 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 2: we should play a game. Okay, We're going to play 815 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 2: a game called gift or a curse. I'll tell you 816 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 2: how we play in a moment, but I need a 817 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 2: number between one and ten from you. 818 00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 3: Seven. 819 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do. I have to find our 820 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: game pieces and do some calculating with your number. So 821 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 2: right now, you can promote something, you can recommend something, 822 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: you have the mic. I'll be right back. 823 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 3: Okay. You can watch my movie which is appearing right 824 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 3: now on Hulu called Sex Appeal with another I said 825 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 3: no gifts, guest Fortune, Femster and Paris Jackson and it's 826 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 3: a great comedy Sex Appeal. So that's on Hulu now 827 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: or starting January fourteenth. 828 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: Perfect. Yes, Oh, I'm excited to watch that movie. 829 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 3: It's very good. 830 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: Okay, this is this is how gift or a curse works. 831 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to name three things. Okay, you're going to 832 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 2: tell me if there are a gift or a curse 833 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 2: and why and there are I have to be extremely clear, 834 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 2: there are correct answers. So you can lose this game 835 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 2: and it's embarrassing. 836 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 3: All right, so just be careful, thank you. 837 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 2: Okay, these and these are all listeners suggestions today, which 838 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: is very exciting. Okay. Number one, Gift or a Curse 839 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: and this is from a listener named Bridget. Interestingly, enough, 840 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: nuts in brownies. 841 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: I think it's a gift. 842 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: And why. 843 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 3: I think it's just it adds a kind of crunch. 844 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 3: I love a nut in a brownie. I think it's 845 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 3: really good. I like nuts and chocolate. As a rule, 846 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 3: I don't like nuts in bread, but I do love 847 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: a nut in a brownie. 848 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 2: Margaret, you got it right, okay, of course, I mean, look, 849 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: they're a gift. Of course, they're a gift. I don't 850 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 2: understand there are people who don't like nuts, and I 851 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 2: just I can't even. It's one of the few things 852 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: that I can't feel any level of empathy towards because 853 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 2: nuts are such a mild flavor. They're nothing a crush, 854 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 2: and they're. 855 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 3: A good fat source. I blend nuts into salad dressing. 856 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 3: I did that today. It was very good, So you know, 857 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 3: they add a little bit of oof right to your 858 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 3: salad dressing. Very good. 859 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 2: I love a nutt in just about anything, and people 860 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 2: who don't like them are so vocal about it. There's 861 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: so much whining about not wanting the nut in the 862 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: brown I mean, of course, if you have an allergy 863 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: or something that's a different case. 864 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 3: It's different, but that's you know, but I think it's 865 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 3: really I think they're very good. 866 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely on board with you on this one. You 867 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: got it right. Congratulations. Okay, this one is from a 868 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 2: listener named Ivan. Gift your a curse brushing your teeth 869 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 2: in the shower curse and why. 870 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: Because you know I have an electric toothbrush. I don't 871 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 3: think that's right. I mean, I don't think it's dangerous 872 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 3: necessarily because they're all the toothbrush itself. It's kind of 873 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 3: like it's meant to get wet, so it's actually okay. 874 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: But I don't know. I think anybody who brushes their 875 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 3: teeth in the showers, I don't. I think it's wrong. 876 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 3: It's to me that's quite military, like it means like 877 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 3: you were probably in the armed forces. It seems kind 878 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 3: of like a it's like a wartime journalist activity, you know, 879 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 3: like if you are maybe working for some kind of 880 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe National Geographic or something like that, 881 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 3: or you're working for CNN something like that, maybe then 882 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 3: it's okay. But or in a field hospital possibly, I 883 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,359 Speaker 3: think it's cursed. Though. I don't think brushing your teeth 884 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 3: in the shower is good. No, no, you got it, Okay, great. 885 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 2: The shower should be a place where you essentially are relaxing. 886 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 2: I don't need the work. I don't need the work 887 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 2: of brushing my teeth. I save that for the sink. Also, 888 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 2: the shower, I feel like that's a bacteria nightmare. Right. 889 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to be cleaning my mouth in the 890 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 3: share like you want to. I just think it's weird. 891 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that if you're cleaning your mouth, 892 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 3: you should be focused on cleaning your mouth. Also, my 893 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 3: toothbrush makes sounds corresponding to where in your mouth you 894 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,479 Speaker 3: should be at that time. Oh wow, So it has 895 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 3: like a kind of like. It also has kind of emojis. 896 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 3: So if I didn't brush long enough, it'll give me 897 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 3: like a frowny fae like. It's a very like judgmental tooths. 898 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 2: A toothbrush for an eleven year old. 899 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a like. It tells me how I'm 900 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: supposed to brush my I'm grateful for it, but it's 901 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 3: a very you know, it's a it's a hard talking toothbrush. 902 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: I would love to have a toothbrush tell me what 903 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 2: to do. 904 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 3: It's very good. 905 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like brushing your teeth in the shower 906 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 2: unless you're a detective or something like on the case. 907 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 2: You don't have time. You just ate a steak and 908 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 2: a coffee and now you got to brush your teeth 909 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 2: in the shower. 910 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. It's like kind of like using bar 911 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 3: soap for shipoo. 912 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that to me is you've hit rock Bobby. 913 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 3: That's awful. 914 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 2: And oh I can't imagine. I yes, there are people 915 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 2: out there that they just use one soap for the 916 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 2: entire shower experience and it makes no sense to me. 917 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 3: I mean unless it's from Lush and you have like 918 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 3: a special like canster for it, right, you know that, 919 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 3: maybe then it's okay. I don't know. Maybe if it's 920 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 3: I think also, that's also very field hospital, foreign correspondent, 921 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 3: war time photographer kind of behavior. 922 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the sort of thing that you just 923 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 2: have no choice. But when you're in the comfort of 924 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: your home, you don't want you're not washing your hair 925 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 2: with a bar of ices spread no, good grief, it's so. 926 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 3: It's not good. No, no, no, no. 927 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 2: Okay, well you've got two out of two so far. 928 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 2: This is very exciting. So yeah, just be an extra 929 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 2: careful on this last one. A listener named Katie has 930 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 2: suggested gift or a curse, preparing the coffee pot the 931 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 2: night before, so you just have to press the button 932 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 2: in the morning. 933 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a gift. I think that's great. That's a 934 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 3: kin to laying out your clothes before the day before. 935 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,479 Speaker 3: I think that if you wake up in the morning, 936 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 3: your coffee is like ready to go in. All if 937 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 3: you do is to push that button, because it reminds 938 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 3: what I will do. Also is I will start my 939 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 3: rice the day before. I'll rinse it out and soak it. 940 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 3: Oh if I'm making like sticky. 941 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 2: Rice, and what difference does that make? 942 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 3: Well, it just ticky rice needs to be soaked anyway 943 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 3: in order to have that sort of sticky, kiable quality. Yeah, 944 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 3: so to stick together that kind of thing. So to 945 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 3: prepare it correctly, you should have at least four hours 946 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 3: of soaking time. But I also just like to really 947 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 3: have the right cooker ready with my even when I'm 948 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 3: not making a sticky rice, when we're just making regular 949 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 3: white race, I like to clean it and get it 950 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 3: ready for the next day. But coffee, I think is 951 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 3: a great idea. So I would say, that's a gift, Margaret. 952 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 2: You were doing so well and now you've gotten it wrong. 953 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, it's a curse. I don't look, I have 954 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: to do it at some point anyway. It's either going 955 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 2: to happen at night or in the morning. The night thing, 956 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to forget about it, and then it's something 957 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 2: that I wake up disappointed about. It's just another horrible 958 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 2: way to start the day. I why not just you know, 959 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 2: I can't count on myself at night. I'm getting sleepy, 960 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 2: I am forgetting things. I've got other things going on. 961 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to have another a final chore at 962 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 2: the end of the day that easily be forgotten and 963 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 2: then ruin my I mean, it creates a cycle that 964 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 2: will probably be inescapable. I'm not into it. 965 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: Curse. 966 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 3: It's a curse, but I'm. 967 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,399 Speaker 2: Going to see it my way I. 968 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 3: Do with you. It's a curse. But I also think 969 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 3: it's a gift because I mean, it's really like, do 970 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 3: you ever lay your clothes out the day before? 971 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 2: I've never really done that, Because I feel like emotionally 972 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: at night, I'm in a different place. I don't know 973 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 2: how I'm going to feel how about how I'm gonna 974 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 2: dress the next day, you know. I want in the morning, 975 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 2: I want to think about how I'm feeling, what the 976 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 2: weather looks like the night before, anything would change. But 977 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 2: you lay your clothes out. 978 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, sometimes I'll put put together a jaunty outfit 979 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 3: and then I'll be really rare and to go. Can't 980 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 3: wait to wear that. It's like schooled new, like a 981 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 3: new student at a new school, kind of feelings that 982 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 3: I have, like a new day. Like it's kind of 983 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, even if it's just me to go 984 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 3: outside to check out my Gulf Stream litter box that 985 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 3: I made for my cats, I just you know, I 986 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 3: want to have that, you know, and my cats, you know, 987 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 3: so they can sit all on my body so they 988 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 3: have a nice like different texture to put their butt on. 989 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 3: I like to have like a different pant. So it's nice. 990 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 2: It's good to think about your cats. But the night before, yeah, 991 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: I think that that's very sweet. Well you got two 992 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: out of three, right, you know, you didn't win, but 993 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 2: you did fine. 994 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 3: It was fair. I did fair. 995 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 2: You did fair. It did absolutely fair. This is the 996 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 2: final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No Emails. 997 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 2: People are writing into I said no gifts at gmail 998 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 2: dot com. Every one of them has some issue in 999 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 2: their life that they need sorting out. They turn to 1000 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 2: somebody that they trust, me my guests, who they may 1001 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: or may not trust. But that's, you know, the thrill 1002 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 2: of a podcast. Will you answer a question with me? 1003 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 3: I would love that. 1004 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 2: All right, this says Bridger. I need your help. I'm 1005 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 2: usually really good at giving thoughtful and meaningful gifts. Valentine's 1006 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 2: Day is coming up, that's true, and I want to 1007 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 2: help my daughter pick out something for her dad. Some facts. 1008 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 2: Number one her father and I. Okay, her father and 1009 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 2: I are recently divorced. Number Two, she and I spent 1010 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 2: hours on a fill in the Answers book about quote 1011 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 2: why my dad is so amazing unquote as a Christmas 1012 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 2: gift for him. Number Three, he spent hours cheating on me. Okay, okay, 1013 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 2: So this is this person's telling a story they're really 1014 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: letting just laying it out. I want to continue helping 1015 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 2: her and my one year old daughter produce thoughtful gifts 1016 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 2: for their father, but I'm just not sure what to 1017 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 2: do in this situation. Please help. Thanks. And that's from Christine. 1018 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 2: So Christine has you know, there's a real turn here 1019 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 2: that Christine threw in wants a gift for the father 1020 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: from the daughter for Valentine's Day. The father has apparently 1021 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 2: just very recently cheated, right, and apparently the divorce was 1022 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: a snap. We're here recording in January. I mean, I 1023 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 2: don't know what the timeline is, and I'm not going 1024 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,479 Speaker 2: to pretend that I do. All we know, the only 1025 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,720 Speaker 2: real facts we have are there, there's a family. 1026 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 3: In crisis, and they need a gift, and. 1027 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 2: They need a gift and it needs to be thoughtful. 1028 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 2: But the feeling I'm getting from Christina is that she 1029 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 2: also wants some level of spite. 1030 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yeah, Like how about some Circus peanuts I 1031 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 3: really hate that, you know, like a candy, but a 1032 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 3: terrible candy like Circus peanuts I think are just awful 1033 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: or French peanuts. Have you ever had those peanuts French? 1034 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're like anything from the Bronx 1035 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 3: line of like butterscotch kind of. I do like a Bronx, 1036 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 3: like like a cinnamon bear, like the Big Cinema. 1037 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 2: I love those, And they made some like weird licorice 1038 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: at some point that I remember liking. 1039 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then they have like the butterscotch, which is 1040 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 3: just awful, and so I would do like that, or 1041 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 3: like maybe a circus candy corn. 1042 00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 2: It can sell corn. What do you think of a 1043 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: cherry cordial? 1044 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 3: I actually do like a cherry. 1045 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. 1046 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 3: They're so gross, but I do like it. 1047 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 2: I think of them as kind of the Christmas Holidays 1048 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: version of the Circus peanut, kind of like this candy 1049 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: that's like, why do we still give. 1050 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 3: This horrible, horrible candy? Also the violet gum. Oh, that's 1051 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 3: a really awful flavored. Yeah, anything like that is like 1052 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 3: a terrible or I would say something if you could 1053 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 3: find some kind of awful candy flavor. 1054 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 2: Do they sell Neco wafers in bulk? 1055 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 3: Those are just awful? 1056 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 2: Those are It's the taste of Mother's purse. It's the 1057 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 2: worst candy in the world. 1058 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 3: Is it antacid? Is it chalk? 1059 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 2: It's absolutely chalk. Just have a thumbs it's I. 1060 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 3: Mean, I do like a sweet tart. Do you remember those? 1061 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: Oh? I love a sweet tart, but I like a 1062 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 2: sour thing. I do like sour and they're not too chalky. 1063 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 2: They have like a smoothness. 1064 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like a necho wafer is just a 1065 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 3: you know what's awful, a chocolate necho. 1066 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh, because you're hoping this will at least have something 1067 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 2: that I can respond to out of this horrible package, 1068 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 2: and it's somehow worse than the other flavors. 1069 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 3: It's like a I don't know, it's like a you who, 1070 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 3: but in tablet form, yes, but you it's a kind 1071 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 3: of good actually, but I don't. 1072 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 2: Mind you who. I like a malted chocolate. 1073 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the neck of chocolate waf is just I 1074 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 3: would s yeah, I would sort of go for that 1075 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 3: kind of vein of candy where it's just or if 1076 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 3: they have like a bugs in candy, you know how 1077 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 3: they have like a scorpion in a lollipop. 1078 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: Or right, or like ants in a I don't know, 1079 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 2: other hard candy. 1080 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, although ants have I have Sometimes they have a 1081 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 3: multi multic acid flavor, so they'll have almost like a 1082 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 3: sour patch kids flavor. 1083 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. That sounds lovely. 1084 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 3: So ants their internal organs often have like a mouth 1085 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 3: watering lemonhead kind of a flavor. 1086 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds fantastic. I need to get into this. 1087 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 3: They're kind of good. 1088 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think what we're talking about. Conversation 1089 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: hearts are awful. 1090 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are awful. 1091 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 2: They are kind of like a necho. 1092 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 3: They are sort of necho like ends because you know, 1093 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 3: after they've punched out the neck away first, I bet 1094 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 3: they have a lot of ends that they make into 1095 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 3: this conversation. Why are those conversations are somehow the symbol 1096 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 3: of Valentine's? 1097 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 2: They know, they're the absolute worst candy you could possibly imagine. 1098 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 3: So those are the ones that you should get. Get 1099 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 3: him like a pound. 1100 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 2: There's thirty pounds of conversation hearts that you have to 1101 01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 2: do away with. 1102 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,160 Speaker 3: It's a horrible, horrible thing. 1103 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's perfect. Valentine's really does open itself 1104 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 2: up to giving away candy, and the expectation is hopefully 1105 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 2: to get a nice box of chocolates or whatever, and 1106 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 2: suddenly you just have all of these little you know, 1107 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: the necho gruel as you've basically described. 1108 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 3: So disgusting. So that's a gift. 1109 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's perfect. Just dump a bag of that on 1110 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 2: his porch and take off. Perfect And he can't complain 1111 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: it's coming from his daughter. Yeah, and then he's got 1112 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 2: something to share with his mistress or whatever you're doing here. Christine, 1113 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 2: You've got your answer and just I mean just in time. 1114 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 2: I hope you're grateful. I hope your ex husband gets 1115 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 2: what he gets. You know, there's only so much any 1116 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 2: of us can do at this point. That's right, Margaret. 1117 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 2: We did a perfect job with that. 1118 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: So good. 1119 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 2: You did a decent job with the game, and you're 1120 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 2: with the gift. I mean, this is what an experience 1121 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 2: this has been. It's my I mean, it's my first NFT. 1122 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 2: It's I'm so glad to increase my portfolio by fourteen 1123 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 2: million dollars. Incredible, And I've just had a lovely time 1124 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:14,720 Speaker 2: with you. 1125 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 3: I had such a great time with you. 1126 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, listener. It's time for the podcast to end. 1127 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 2: I know that you've been dreading this moment since you 1128 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 2: began playing it. You're sweating, it's increasing, you're panicking. You 1129 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 2: don't know what to do with the rest of your day. Ah, 1130 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 2: I go, but that is not my responsibility. It's yours. 1131 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 2: You have to take some responsibility for your own life, 1132 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 2: and I hope that you're doing a good job with that. 1133 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 2: Go on, take care of yourself. Goodbye. I said, no 1134 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 2: gifts is an exactly right production. 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