WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Jermaine Dupri Talks 'Freaknik,' Usher; Superbowl Performance, Magic City, Mase + More

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<v Speaker 1>Wake that ass up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 1>Morning everybody. It's the j n V.

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<v Speaker 3>Jess hilarious Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a special guest in the building, legendary Jermaine Duprit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, going on, where you want to start?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to start the number one congratulations on money Long.

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<v Speaker 3>We can start with the number one, all right, number

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<v Speaker 3>one records, money Long, number one record this week produced

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<v Speaker 3>by j D.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's nothing to you, no more, there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm saying no, no, I'm saying I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to start with that. I came to talk about Freaknick. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a static about it. Yeah, you know it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk about Freakney. This Freaknick documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when making a documentary, you had tons of ladies

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<v Speaker 3>and men scared that they were going to see their pictures,

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<v Speaker 3>their asses on the screen. But it was it was

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<v Speaker 3>well done. It wasn't done in a disrespectful way. It

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<v Speaker 3>was it was so explain to it, this documentary, how

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<v Speaker 3>it came.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, how it came up. Yeah, I mean it came about.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Luke was trying.

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<v Speaker 4>To do this initially, and then they started having conversations

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<v Speaker 4>about it, and Luke said, you know, he can't do

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<v Speaker 4>it if I wasn't involved. And then when they came

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to me about it, I said the same

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<v Speaker 4>thing to them. I'm like, well, I wouldn't do this

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<v Speaker 4>if Luke wasn't involved, and they like, well, we got Luke,

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<v Speaker 4>so we got you, and I'm like yeah. So it

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<v Speaker 4>went from there, and then it just kind of just

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<v Speaker 4>started moving pretty fast. And then I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure that the story was told from all perspectives

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<v Speaker 4>because the people that was concerned about the ass is

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<v Speaker 4>showing and all of that, they don't understand how young

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<v Speaker 4>I was when Freaknick was actually popping. So my perspective

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<v Speaker 4>of freak Nick wasn't that perspective. I ain't see all

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<v Speaker 4>that because I wasn't able to get into the clubs

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<v Speaker 4>and all of this type of stuff. So my perspective

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<v Speaker 4>was I was part of the street traffic. I was

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<v Speaker 4>out in the streets, I was dancing outside the cars,

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<v Speaker 4>I was on p Street. I was that was a

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<v Speaker 4>part of freak Nick, and I saw other people saw

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<v Speaker 4>Luke got a different story than other people. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>just really important for me to see make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>we made you see everybody's different perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>How much did y'all have to water to duck down

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<v Speaker 5>because of this lame mass cancel culture.

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<v Speaker 6>Era that week?

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<v Speaker 1>None?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I mean you, I feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>ultimately what people don't understand is this is black culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you embarrassed by a culture? Like? Are you embarrassed

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<v Speaker 1>that you went to an HBCU And this is how

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<v Speaker 1>y'all act?

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<v Speaker 4>If that, If that's how you feel, then you should

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<v Speaker 4>just change your color of your skin, because this is

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<v Speaker 4>that's life in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>We got four you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Where everywhere else got one, y'all got Hampton and one.

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<v Speaker 1>We have four of them.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you put all of that energy in one place,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just what black culture is.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, how did how did twenty one Savage get

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<v Speaker 4>to be a part of it?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that this was y'all era, you and Uncle Luke,

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<v Speaker 2>but how did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well twenty one?

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<v Speaker 4>He been doing his birthday party and the theme with

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<v Speaker 4>his birthday party is freak nick for the past couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years.

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<v Speaker 1>So at first I was like no, But then you

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<v Speaker 1>know he liveing in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>He from well, I mean, you know he's not from Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 4>but he from basically from Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're from Atlanta, you've.

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<v Speaker 4>Been you felt the repercussions of something from Freaknick at

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<v Speaker 4>some point.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's crazy because you know, going to Hampton.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, Freaknik created so many different uh gathereries right Philly,

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<v Speaker 3>greg Fourth to July and Virginia Jones Beach, New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>It all started for Freaknick. But I just thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was a party that a party that was created just

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<v Speaker 3>for people a while out. That's what I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was when when you were in college, that's what you

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<v Speaker 3>think it was. But the fact that it was created

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<v Speaker 3>for students that didn't have any money was something. You

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<v Speaker 3>want to break that down because I thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>created for a whole different reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean that's what I'm saying a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't go to college, so I can't you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean, I didn't know that either. So the

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<v Speaker 4>the person that's watching this, that's probably me that didn't

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<v Speaker 4>go to college. Uh, that don't know nothing about that lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you don't understand that these kids that come

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<v Speaker 4>from DC or New York or.

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<v Speaker 1>Wherever they come, Nick all the way to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>You think that they got money to just fly back

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<v Speaker 4>home on spring break.

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<v Speaker 1>And just back then, we didn't fly.

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<v Speaker 2>We would drive exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like even that's another thing that that.

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<v Speaker 4>This documentary shows of how unmanual we are as people. Unmanual, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>unmanual because we are as people because you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to drive. Now when you think you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna see four girls from New York getting a car

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<v Speaker 4>and drive to Atlanta just to have fun, no way,

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<v Speaker 4>never their lies.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So it just shows you

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<v Speaker 1>that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And then like you know, so so you should see

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<v Speaker 4>that freak Nick is like, oh, these were some kids

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<v Speaker 4>that couldn't go home.

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<v Speaker 1>They they didn't know what their spring break was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 4>Like they watching all these white kids go to go

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<v Speaker 4>to they on the beach and all this, and they

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<v Speaker 4>got money. But these kids are stuck in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 4>ain't got no money. So they threw a picnic that

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<v Speaker 4>turned into Freaknick. That's a that's an American black history story.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, people weren't afraid to be broke back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you have no true, no trust to

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid.

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<v Speaker 5>But no, nowadays people confront right, so everybody can pretend

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<v Speaker 5>to something that you can pretend to.

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<v Speaker 6>Have more than you got.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody wants to mean they just you know they I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>well you yeah, you know, I'll be seeing these girls

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<v Speaker 5>go to tuloom and I'm sure they sharing rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, matter like that didn't you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't matter Like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Would go to you know, Philly Greek or Fourth of

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<v Speaker 3>July and Virginia and it'd be seven of us in

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<v Speaker 3>the room and nobody thought about anything. It wasn't we

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<v Speaker 3>broke and be like, oh you got the floor, you

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<v Speaker 3>got the eye, you take your quick shout. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it was. It was all hanging out his brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I thought it was for me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why as we got into it, that's why I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, this has to come out because people, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't we don't see this in black culture. We

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<v Speaker 4>just keep trying to make it seem like everybody got

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<v Speaker 4>money and everybody do this and nothing. No, it was

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<v Speaker 4>a time when none of that mattered, right, And after

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<v Speaker 4>I liked when Jalen Rose was somebo how he got

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<v Speaker 4>to freak Nick. He he took his cousin car or something,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was just like, you know, as long as

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<v Speaker 4>I get a car, I'm out, we get into freaking it.

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<v Speaker 4>And that was the same thing with me when I

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<v Speaker 4>was seventeen or well six, chem I had just got

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<v Speaker 4>my first car. My first car was a Valari, a

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<v Speaker 4>two door Valori basically probably listening don't even know what

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<v Speaker 4>that is. But it was an ugly ass car that

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<v Speaker 4>looked like a Pacer mixed with something else, right, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't care what the car looked like.

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<v Speaker 4>I just was able to drive around Atlanta while this

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<v Speaker 4>was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all.

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<v Speaker 4>That's ultimately what your the goal was. Can you get

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<v Speaker 4>into the Freakingnick? Can you get into traffic? If you're

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<v Speaker 4>sitting at home and you can't get it, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>when you're mad. But if you have a car, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what all. That's all it was about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy how.

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<v Speaker 3>They easily cancel black events. Right while you look at

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<v Speaker 3>Daytuna Beach, you look at Miami spring Break, you look

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<v Speaker 3>at where the white kids go for their spring break

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<v Speaker 3>and they wild out, they get drunk, they fight, and

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<v Speaker 3>all types of stuff, but those events never get canceled.

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<v Speaker 3>It seemed like they tried to tame it, but they

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<v Speaker 3>just totally canceled freaking it, which is which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they had to because it was it was bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it got to a point now and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not talking about the misconduct with the guys and the girls.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about just the traffic and how the city

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<v Speaker 4>was dealing with it, because ultimately, these guys that was

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<v Speaker 4>at their school they started something. They never talked to

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<v Speaker 4>the people in the city, so the city had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea what was actually happening. When it got out of control,

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<v Speaker 4>they just start trying to control it the best way

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<v Speaker 4>they could. But they weren't even talking to the DC

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<v Speaker 4>Metro Club, right, So it's like at that point, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like it's like, uh, Frankenstein, You've gone created a monster

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<v Speaker 4>and y'all can't control this. You got the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>you can do is shut it down at least for

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<v Speaker 4>a second and try to see if y'all can figure

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<v Speaker 4>out how to make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it ever come back? No, And we tried a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago. Now I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think it could come back if you

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<v Speaker 4>off people really really sit down and figure out how

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<v Speaker 4>to make it into essence Fest, because that's basically what

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<v Speaker 4>it should have become. It should have become the essence

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<v Speaker 4>Fest of Atlanta, right. But the traffic part of it

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<v Speaker 4>was that was the.

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<v Speaker 5>Ship more than people who go to others now probably

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<v Speaker 5>used to go to Freaking.

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<v Speaker 1>All the black people was at Freaking.

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<v Speaker 3>You just got to define the name because when people

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<v Speaker 3>hear the name Freaknick, they think it's gonna be a yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying we can get past that. We got

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<v Speaker 1>Slutty Vegan now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it's too much cameras now, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's That's the other thing. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I would say.

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<v Speaker 4>If you go to Freaknick, now, you gotta put your

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<v Speaker 4>phone away because you have missed the girls dancing on

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<v Speaker 4>the cars, like the fact that you was driving down

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<v Speaker 4>the street and you were looking for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how you saw freaking it.

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<v Speaker 4>If somebody down there doing this, you're gonna miss everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's another thing you gotta you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, And maybe the hype of it and people saying

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<v Speaker 4>it might make people want to see it. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just think people are so like attached to their phones

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<v Speaker 4>and they think everything is more important than their phone,

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<v Speaker 4>as opposed and seeing what's happening outside.

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<v Speaker 5>And how come nobody ever focuses on some of the

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<v Speaker 5>women that went down there because they wanted to have

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<v Speaker 5>a good time, Like they wanted to go out there

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<v Speaker 5>and be loose and wild and liberated.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we talked about that, Okay, we let the girls

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<v Speaker 4>talk about that the show that they was grabbing the dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you think Uncle.

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<v Speaker 6>Luke's music helped hurt Freaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I helped? You said, did it help?

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<v Speaker 4>It helped between Uncle Luke and Social Based All Stars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the soundtrack of Freaknick, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, I also think now with Miami shutting down,

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<v Speaker 4>spring Break and all that, it's the music because the

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<v Speaker 4>people don't You don't have nothing's making you dance, right,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing making you jump on top of the cars. You

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<v Speaker 4>see people doing it, but they doing it to music

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<v Speaker 4>that don't really have that vibration. Right at Freakingnick, the

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<v Speaker 4>girls was dancing so hard and the guys was dancing

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<v Speaker 4>so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't had time to be worrying about nobody beside like.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a the energy level was just too high, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think the loop music, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>the social debased Allso the music was making you dance

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<v Speaker 4>in a different space and it made you think about

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<v Speaker 4>like you was like this and it wasn't You don't

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<v Speaker 4>have time to be like hey niggas, No, no, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. We ain't come down here for that.

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<v Speaker 4>We came down here to see these girls. Let's go

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<v Speaker 4>see these girls.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the mentality of.

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<v Speaker 4>A man when you go to the strip club. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>I go to strip club every week. You go to

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<v Speaker 4>the strip club. Guys don't come in the strip club

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<v Speaker 4>looking for niggas, right, They come in the strip club

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<v Speaker 4>to see the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the mentality a freak Knick, And for some reason,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's kind of lost in the space that we

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<v Speaker 4>live in now.

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<v Speaker 1>Niggas want to go see what other nigga's wearing.

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<v Speaker 5>Speaking of that, speaking of that, if Freak Nick did

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<v Speaker 5>come back to day, would you wear the boss Baby outfit?

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<v Speaker 1>You wore the super Bowl boss Baby outfit?

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<v Speaker 6>What was it? What was what was the What was

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<v Speaker 6>the inspiration behind that outfit? Gee?

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, I had on a tuck seed though

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<v Speaker 4>with shorts very similar to what.

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<v Speaker 1>I have on to day.

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<v Speaker 4>I have on a tie, a regular suit shirt and

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<v Speaker 4>I got on shorts.

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<v Speaker 6>It's very boised men.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's Vegas, right, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's a super Bowl. It's the biggest event in

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<v Speaker 4>the world. I could have went up there with the

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<v Speaker 4>started jacking and started hat how regular nigga is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm just saying, I think sometimes people don't realize,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm in an entertainment business and I'm getting ready

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<v Speaker 4>to do the biggest show of Usher's life, not in

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<v Speaker 4>my life. I guess you want to say, We're going

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<v Speaker 4>on the biggest stage in the world and I should

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<v Speaker 4>be wearing a baseball cap and looking like a regular

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<v Speaker 4>ass nigga in the streets. Nah, Nah, I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's that was the thought behind it, right. So it

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<v Speaker 4>was more or less like you know, a while ago,

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<v Speaker 4>like enviewer Man, we started this thing called the Ocean seven, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was me Usher, John ta becox All. We

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<v Speaker 4>used to go to Vegas and we got dressed and

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<v Speaker 4>we'd be dressed up. So I wanted to actually have

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<v Speaker 4>a piece of that in what we was doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we in Vegas. Like, you don't go to

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<v Speaker 4>Usher show. I've seen you at us show. You was

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<v Speaker 4>dressed you you know what I mean. Niggas go to

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<v Speaker 4>his show dressed up. You don't go to Vegas with

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<v Speaker 4>your football on.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you didn't get people talking. Basically, no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>do it to get people talking. I didn't even think

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<v Speaker 4>nobody was gonna pay no attention to it. I had

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<v Speaker 4>on a tux seed.

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<v Speaker 1>Though with a tip and a regular shirt. The socks

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<v Speaker 1>strew people off.

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<v Speaker 3>They were talking about they't they didn't care about the tuck.

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<v Speaker 3>They were talk about the socks.

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<v Speaker 4>They were talking about the socks, right, and the socks

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<v Speaker 4>once again, the socks. I understand why if I keep

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<v Speaker 4>saying something about the socks, because they do look like

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<v Speaker 4>I guess what they say the Bobby socks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they not. They don't have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with that. They don't look nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Once you get up on the socks and they also

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like I said, it's just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's my man's line right.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, that's another thing for else.

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<v Speaker 4>My man ain't doubt niggas man, right, I don't notice nigga.

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<v Speaker 4>So in support of my homeboy line, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't even thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it just happened.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean, shit, listen, I put my first group

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<v Speaker 4>out of nineteen ninety two. I'm trending in twenty twenty four. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>y'all can say whatever you want to say.

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<v Speaker 6>They'll got number one records.

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<v Speaker 5>What did User's Super Bowl halftime performance mean to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Everything?

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<v Speaker 6>As the architect, really, if we're being honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everything. It means everything because when we made My.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, the discussion, the discussion that he and I had

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<v Speaker 4>making that record was that he.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to get to that space.

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<v Speaker 4>He wanted to and when he once he got to

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<v Speaker 4>that space, he wanted people to realize he did it

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<v Speaker 4>his way. That's how that whole album came about. So

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<v Speaker 4>for me to be in that seat and watch it

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<v Speaker 4>go from My Way to this, I probably was the

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<v Speaker 4>most proud. And then at the same time, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he did six of my songs on Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know, it's not a bunch of bugs

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<v Speaker 4>that could say crazy. They had six of these songs

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<v Speaker 4>performed on Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>I argue with somebody up here the other day when

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<v Speaker 3>when they heard Confessions, right, younger person and they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he wrote Confession. I was like, you know, Confessions was

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<v Speaker 3>about Jaine Dupre that Jamine Dupre wrote that that's factual.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so yeah, So I mean I wrote you

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<v Speaker 2>Make Me.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to, I wrote my Way, I wrote Nice and Slow.

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote Confessions. I wrote you Got It Bad, I

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<v Speaker 4>wrote my Boo. I wrote all these songs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people be like breaking it down when they

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<v Speaker 4>talk about it, and they say Confessions, but nice and Slow,

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<v Speaker 4>all these songs I wrote, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's just the story of Confessions. I think took

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<v Speaker 4>over and it was like I was that guy. I

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<v Speaker 4>was the person that was in that position.

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<v Speaker 3>But it happened right when he broke up with Chili.

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<v Speaker 3>So people were just assumed that he was writing it

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<v Speaker 3>about Chili.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that was your story, yeah for something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I mean even when writing there, I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>think about I wouldn't even think about that. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you just go to the studio, you write songs, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not even about I mean, sometimes you have a motive

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<v Speaker 4>behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we was trying to just follow up. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was trying to follow up. You got

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<v Speaker 1>it back.

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<v Speaker 4>It just came off eighty seven to one, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was a big album, So it was like, what y'all

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<v Speaker 4>gonna do this time?

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<v Speaker 6>Is usually the biggest jewel in your crown? The biggest

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<v Speaker 6>what the biggest jewel in your crown?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean Mariah Carey song Song of

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<v Speaker 1>the Decade.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that Pasion was a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. There's a couple in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's definitely. Well, let me say this.

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<v Speaker 4>Rolling Stone said that Russia's is the I mean Confessions

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<v Speaker 4>is the R and B the number one R and

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<v Speaker 4>B record of this twenty first century, right or twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is, twenty first century. So I mean, if

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<v Speaker 4>that's the if that's a true statement, then I guess so.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's a big record. That's a big statement.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think Atlanta as a whole is getting documented properly?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>That's why another reason why I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that this documentary gets the stage that is on shout

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<v Speaker 4>out to Hulu Disney mass Appeal for actually allowing us

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<v Speaker 4>to finally tell our story on this stage, because just

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<v Speaker 4>the first story from the South that's ever been told.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I say that, I said that south by

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<v Speaker 4>Southwestern people was like what And I'm like, what's the

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<v Speaker 4>what's in Atlanta story that you know?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the Southern story that you know? You from the South?

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<v Speaker 4>What what stories do we have that people know about

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<v Speaker 4>the South? Besides at l is not a story of

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<v Speaker 4>of the South, of the South riseing the culture hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the first time that we get a story

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<v Speaker 4>about our culture and how outcast popped?

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<v Speaker 1>How why you know, social death? Oh damn? Why Luke

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<v Speaker 1>said bank head and scarred? What was the reason for that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you ain't never wondered?

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<v Speaker 4>Like he from Miami he talking about bank head bounce,

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<v Speaker 4>Like why he was saying that Freaknick, Freaknick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the first time that, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>the South gets set that look, I mean we was

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<v Speaker 4>never we was. I think Hollywood never felt like our

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<v Speaker 4>stories was important.

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<v Speaker 3>If Freaknick never happened, woul Atlanta music blow up as

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<v Speaker 3>fast as it did.

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<v Speaker 4>No, because what's that little thing with the you know

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<v Speaker 4>when when when you put the little roach trap down

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<v Speaker 4>and the roaches get in there and they go back

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<v Speaker 4>to the they yeah, ray, but it's a little trap

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<v Speaker 4>and they take the food back to that. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>Freaknick was for the South. People from Virginia, people from

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<v Speaker 4>New York, people from Baltimore, people from DC, people from

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<v Speaker 4>everywhere came to Atlanta. The DJs in Atlanta was playing

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<v Speaker 4>bass music, so so that based all stars Luke Skywalker,

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah blah. Kids went back to their hoods saying, Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>we was in Atlanta. This is the new shit they

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<v Speaker 4>playing Atlanta. Well, this is the shit that was we

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<v Speaker 4>was doing in Freaknik. Or they somebody saw the video

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why the music spread that way, right, That's

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<v Speaker 4>why it spread it in so many places, because these

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<v Speaker 4>people took it back home as if they had discovered

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<v Speaker 4>some new thing that wasn't happening in the house in

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<v Speaker 4>their neighborhoods. And at that point, if you take it

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, if five hundred people go back to

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia with the same mentality and it spread, then Virginia

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<v Speaker 4>starts sounding like Atlanta, right or whatever. That's you know, so, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't. I think Freaknick was definitely our mixtape, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Freaknick was our mixtape that made

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<v Speaker 4>people say, oh, there's some shit going on down there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's some you know what I mean. So that's definitely it.

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<v Speaker 4>We I don't know what would have happened if we,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it would have been a slower pace.

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<v Speaker 3>How bad was it when the labels it seemed like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, watching the doc I seen Craig Mac performing,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen Biggie performing. How bad was it when the

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<v Speaker 3>label started touching Freak nigg it commercialize it to make

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<v Speaker 3>it worse?

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all, No, it was all good.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was in People Park, So you know

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<v Speaker 4>that scene when I'm showing you when I'm talking, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>standing in the parking.

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<v Speaker 5>That was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the park stuff, and that was the concerts.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually was helping because all these black people in the

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<v Speaker 4>park smoking weed, drinking, doing whatever they want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Because if nobody was governing this right, it was just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, y'all niggas want to go do.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead. That's how the city was open to it.

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<v Speaker 4>So they was just out there, and we never was

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<v Speaker 4>nobody was scared about violence. Wasn't nobody thinking about somebody

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<v Speaker 4>pulling out a gun or anything, but that could have happened.

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<v Speaker 4>So to give music and put music out there, and

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<v Speaker 4>then put artists on the shows that just from the

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<v Speaker 4>South definitely helped because then people from the North or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever west coast they came and they was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, snoop, here this person, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So you start feeling even more comfortable amongst all of

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<v Speaker 4>these people.

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<v Speaker 5>And now you're about to turn around and do the

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<v Speaker 5>Magic City document series, right, Yeah, Magic City in American fantasy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know what it's about.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's also the same thing as a story about

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Magic City. That that that I don't think people know, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>the story of Magic City is so much more deeper

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<v Speaker 4>than just a strip club, right, and how Magic figured

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<v Speaker 4>out a way to make this one club.

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<v Speaker 1>A worldwide situation, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And then people always keep saying they like, why is

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<v Speaker 4>Drake and Bob Because Drake it's from a different country

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<v Speaker 4>and he wants to come to.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bitty strip club in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy, right that that I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to think about that because I'm not from

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<v Speaker 4>a different country. But I'm saying that being a different country.

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<v Speaker 4>We in the United States, I don't want to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard nothing about nothing in Canada that make me

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<v Speaker 4>want to fly there on a Monday and be a

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<v Speaker 4>part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right this place?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that crazy that it's made people in Toronto want

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<v Speaker 4>to come to.

0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta on Monday. I think you have to hear about this.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just like I said, it's just highlighting things

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 4>that happened in the South that we haven't we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>had an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 5>So what helped elevate the Atlanta music scene more freaknik

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<v Speaker 5>in Magic City?

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<v Speaker 1>Freaknik?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, because you always hear about records breaking in Magic City?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, well, I think and that was after

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that by the way, that's me saying that.

0:21:42.400 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 4>That was that was something that I talked about. And

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<v Speaker 4>once again, like I said, you got to remember, I

0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:52.160
<v Speaker 4>wasn't in the clubs in eighty eighty two, eighty three,

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four. I couldn't get in no clubs. So I

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 4>wasn't even making music in eighty four. But so even

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.919
<v Speaker 4>in ninety two when Chris came out. I still I

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<v Speaker 4>was only nineteen. I still couldn't even get into Magic City.

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<v Speaker 4>So that that period where I felt like the strip

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<v Speaker 4>club became the mixtape was a later nineties activity. Before that,

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<v Speaker 4>Freak Nick was running the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Damn, I saw you. I think it was with Gail

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:19.959
<v Speaker 6>King and Carrie Champion and all them.

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<v Speaker 5>You were talking about how if you if a woman

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't understand you being in the script club, she wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>the woman for you. Yeah, so that was a deal

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<v Speaker 5>break off the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I'm saying, like, I'm gonna use you just

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<v Speaker 4>as an example. If me and Jess was talking and

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<v Speaker 4>she came to Atlanta and I said we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>Magic City tonight, and she was like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really fuck with no strip clubs. At that point,

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<v Speaker 4>you you have broke our synergy. You flew to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>to stay at my house while I go party with

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<v Speaker 4>my homeboys. Now when you went, But I'm saying, but

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<v Speaker 4>when I go to the strip club as a woman,

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<v Speaker 4>her mind's gonna start doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked you to come with me so that your

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 4>mind wouldn't do that. But you want to stay at

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<v Speaker 4>home and wait till I get back, and then come back,

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<v Speaker 4>possibly smelling like a strip club.

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<v Speaker 6>The questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Then were gonna have a beef? You fucked it up

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<v Speaker 1>from the jump? Oh, I fuck it up by allowing

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.439
<v Speaker 1>you to just stay at home. I should have just

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<v Speaker 1>made you come.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just saying, ultimately, if this is part of

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<v Speaker 4>your life, this is part of my life. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna fuck with me, you gotta know that that's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>That's gonna happen, right. It's interesting. When I was dating Janet,

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:46.959
<v Speaker 4>I try to not take her. I was, but I

0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 4>fought it for the longest. I wasn't in the space

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<v Speaker 4>mindset that I'm in right now. Because I didn't. I

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 4>wasn't paying attention to it. Like the way I'm telling you.

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 4>I was thinking like, oh, if I take her in,

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<v Speaker 4>and when of them girls gonna tap me on my

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<v Speaker 4>shoulder that I haven't been with and she gonna know,

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<v Speaker 4>And then I was thinking about all the bullshit. Yeah, nah,

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<v Speaker 4>if this is what you do, what you did in

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<v Speaker 4>your past is your past. I'm with you now. Let

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<v Speaker 4>me see what's happening. Why you want to go there

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<v Speaker 4>every Monday. That's what her question was, Fuck it, let's go.

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<v Speaker 6>Did she understand after she went why you wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>be there every Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when does JD get to tell his story?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's so many, so many, I would say, people

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 3>in the industry that are successful from the JD tree, Right,

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 3>we can go back from of course Little John and

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 3>school to Braun and we can go to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>across Usher and the stuff you did with Mariah. You

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<v Speaker 3>can go to myself and Neil who manages Rice and Tyler.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people don't know that story. So when

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<v Speaker 3>does JD create that story and goes through it so

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<v Speaker 3>people can understand what you've did, what you produced, the

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<v Speaker 3>artists you've broken, the executives and talent that you created.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think the freak nick Dot helps that

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<v Speaker 4>get helps me get into that space because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for the longest, the South has been ignored. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>what it is, and I'm part of I'm part of

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 4>that cloth that's been ignored. You gotta think at nineteen

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 4>I put out my first group that everybody knows, and

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote and produced every line in every beat in

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 4>the music. At nineteen, if a person and they first

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<v Speaker 4>single was a number one, top one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Single, right, Kris Krust.

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<v Speaker 4>If that was sports like football and basketball, they'd call

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<v Speaker 4>me a freaking nature right. But the fact that it

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 4>was the South, they treated us like we weren't even

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<v Speaker 4>hip hop, like, oh, that's.

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Some gimmick shit, like that ain't real hip hop.

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<v Speaker 4>So then it made people ignore the fact that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>the person who ushered in young people rapping. If it

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.719
<v Speaker 4>wasn't for them, you, as a young person, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even know that it was possible that you could have

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<v Speaker 4>a record.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 4>Who else has come out out since Bow Wow that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, bow was the only other person that did it,

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 4>and I put him out. So I'm just saying it's

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 4>the stories have been ignored, so somebody, you know, at

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<v Speaker 4>least we get one story, and we got two stories

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 4>hopefully that you know from that, it'll it'll it'll get

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 4>into that space so you can actually see it and

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<v Speaker 4>then people won't have this misconception about what they have

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<v Speaker 4>about me.

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<v Speaker 5>Michael michael By said, you got the whole backwards thing

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 5>from from him, the whole backwards clothes actually he said,

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<v Speaker 5>he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it from him.

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<v Speaker 4>But BBD was in a space where they was doing

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<v Speaker 4>things right, and they were they I think they had

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<v Speaker 4>their pants inside out. That's what because I say that

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 4>in the song because inside out ABC was wearing they

0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 4>clothes inside out. So the day that I told Chris

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 4>to put his jump on backwards, that's what I was

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 4>thinking about. I'm like, they got they clothes on inside out.

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you should turn yours around. I never saw BBD

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<v Speaker 4>do it, and I and I and I spoke to

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 4>Mike because he got on his cover of his I think,

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<v Speaker 4>do me baby, he got a dB a bb D

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<v Speaker 4>jacket on that I thought was a leather pullover and

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 4>he's like, nah, I have my jacket on back. So

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<v Speaker 4>we had a conversation about it. But I didn't I

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 4>didn't actually know. We never had.

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I never knew that that's what was happening.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, when people talk about you too, JD,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 5>they got to talk about the fact that Mace thanks

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 5>you for being the first person to pay him is worth.

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<v Speaker 5>You introduced Biggie, you know, to a land in a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of ways, and so who so who knows how

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 5>that inspired him and j Z with with money anything

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<v Speaker 5>was it was an introduction to the South in a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 6>So you got to get credit for that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. It's like,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 4>like I said, it's been ignored. I mean, that's all.

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 4>That's all you could do. Like I said, if you was,

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 4>if if I was in New York, I'd be the king.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 4>It's no, it's no way. I mean, even like today,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 4>you don't know a person y'all. Don't have a person

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 4>that can come up here this year that had his

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 4>first number one record in nineteen ninety two and got

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 4>a record that's number one today. You'll never you won't

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 4>see nobody else come up here to this station this year.

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's actually true.

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>You won't know, not this year.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't even probably wan't to have next

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.679
<v Speaker 4>year either. But I'm saying no, my first number one

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 4>record was in nineteen ninety two. I have the number

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 4>one R and B record in the country today.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think it's the media, because even when you

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 5>look at it, you were born in Atlanta's run has

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 5>been longer than everybody too.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 4>My run has been longer than everybody. That's that's what

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying. That's I think that's another thing, like when

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 4>people say Atlanta's run, Yeah, Atlanta's run, but my run

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't, and I don't. I'm not.

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm a cocky person, but I don't be

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 4>one to just like, hey, you know what I mean.

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 4>I represent the city, so I let the whole city

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 4>get the splash for it.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>But my run has been longer than anybody.

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<v Speaker 6>If you don't tell your story, JD, nobody else is.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>No. I'm gonna tell it. You believe me.

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 4>That's why it's important that you watch Freak Nick on Thursday.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Y'all run them streams up at Hulu, so that Hulu

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 4>calls me and says, hey, we need your story.

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Social Deft too write how you relaunch your social death.

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as label for artists you have or you're

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 3>looking for artists, I know you got to go, but

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 3>are you looking for artists?

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And are you putting the sign back up in Atlanta?

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And that says, oh, yeah, I'm putting a sign back up.

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm going if I'm supposed to say this, but anyway

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 4>I can say, I'm gonna say it anyway. You know,

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 4>BMF comes to Atlanta or they're in Atlanta right now.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 4>And you'll see in the BMF series that the sign

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 4>goes back up. And at that point when that happened,

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Okay, you know, as many niggas watch this,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm gonna have to put this sign back up

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 4>because you know what I mean. So now we're gonna

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 4>put it back up on an artist tip. I'm looking

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 4>for new artists. It's just my you know's, That's what

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 4>I wanted. I wanted a space for me to continue

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 4>to keep putting out new artists. I love putting out

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 4>new artists. I'm not scared to put out new artists,

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think nobody else could do it better

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 4>than me.

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<v Speaker 6>When you paid Mace what he was worth, did you

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 6>do that just the upstated.

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>He No, I don't you know. When I pay people,

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that I'm paying them more than you know.

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know that that's you know. I

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 4>don't have that conversation. I I just go after what

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I want, like if you so, if I wanted, you know,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 4>when I signed, Harlem wore I wanted to make the

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 4>deal because Mace kept telling everybody in every interview that

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 4>he did that he came to Atlanta to meet with me, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So I actually felt like I fucked up, Right, So

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like, damn, I fucked up and I missed

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<v Speaker 4>this nigga Mason. He out here killing it. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, let's make this deal. And he told

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<v Speaker 4>me what he wanted to do, and I didn't think

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<v Speaker 4>about it twice. I just was like, let's do the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't know I was giving him more money than

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<v Speaker 4>he was. You know, I never knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>They have it. Ladies and gentlemen, you main't freak Nick

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<v Speaker 2>this Thursday and appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Brough Congratulations money Long.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me say this, she might be watching Congratulations Money Long.

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<v Speaker 4>Number one record. It's an R and B song, no rap,

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<v Speaker 4>number one urban record in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Jumaine dupre Yeah, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 2>Wake that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.