1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: A special final Friday home edition of Cardinal Territory. Katie Woo, 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Bertie got back with you for the last home series 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty five regular season. 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Bertie, can you believe we're here? 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: You know, I've been fortunate, Katie, because seriously, I know 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: the last three years have been rough for the Cardinals, 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: but you know, I've had the best seat in the 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: house for you know, this is incredible and incredible air 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: of Cardinals baseball, and you know this will be I 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: think the only the second losing season since Mozilla. 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: Took over as the head of baseball operations. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: But I don't know what it's like for all these cities, 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: you know, and they're fans and even media that you know, 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: just have to deal with like losing teams all the time. 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 4: And my point of saying. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 3: That is that, yeah, there was sometimes this season you're 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: like kind of like Peu, but it actually the season 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: actually went by really fast, and I think that a 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: lot of it had to do with there was a 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: lot the first couple of months, but I thought it 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: was a very interesting team, not so much with performance 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: but with all the stuff scorreling. 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: But by fast, I agree. 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: I think that's the best wing to sum it up. 25 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Having up on the athletic today about kind of the 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: transition season, whether or not it was a success or not, 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and I think it was a success in terms of 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: they did have questions answered. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: They wanted to know if this core is. 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: Currently constructed, was good enough to expedite a rebuild, and. 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I found out that it's not, so we're going to 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: embrace the. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: True rebuild in Saint Louis, And that to me makes 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: this series a little sentimental because I remember in twenty 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: twenty two, I've covered three, just three postseason games in 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: my five year tenure in Saint Louis, zero wins, so 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: great track record for me, but I remember my. 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: First home playoff win in twenty twenty two. 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: Albert's back, Yattie's last year. You've got MVP, Gould. 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Schmith, potential MVP R and auto Ben Frederickson formally of 41 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: the same post as Patch, you and I both know 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: came up before the game. 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: Hey take it in because so. 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Many writers and reporters do not get to experience something 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: like this, and he was referring to the energy from 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: the crowd, the excitement of a legitimate postseason team so 47 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: we thought, uh beat at. 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: Their home crowd in Saint Louis, and. 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, October baseball for freaking Rocks. I 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: can't wait to experience this over and over again. Turns 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: out Benfred very wise exactly he was talking about, because 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: I get to experience that since that conversation. And that's 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: what makes September baseball a little sentimental to me, because 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: are thankful to have this job, and there are different 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: perks and different benefits to take away from covering an 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: organization in a down spiral such as Saint Louis right now. 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: But I have thought that September baseball would. 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: Mean gearing up for a postseason run. 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: And you're gearing up for October and we're all in 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: it together, and there's nothing like the postseason and covering 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: that and being meant an early exit from contention. It's 62 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: meant elimination, It's meant a lot of questions about the future. 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: It's meant people losing their jobs, players losing places on 64 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: the roster. And that makes me sentimental because I go 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: when I look at all my fantastic colleagues work at 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: the athletic and. 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: Across the board, I'm checked in. 68 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: On the Astros and the Matners, and I'm checking in 69 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: on what the Blue Jays are doing. All of a sudden, 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: the Guardians are relevant again. What the heck is going 71 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: on in the NL West with the Dodgers and the 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Padres and the Giants are flaming out? But at least 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: September was was fun right right, And that's what makes 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: this sentimental for me, because it's the end of another 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: season eighty one game that's seen some of my favorite 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: people at the ball park every day. 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: I will get soft on you guys. It's not why 78 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: we're here, but I. 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Do feel some sort of emotions because September baseball was 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: never supposed. 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 4: To be like well night, and I helped R. Kummel up. 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: I was a football NFL writer, but that's where I 83 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: was hired. But I before football, the football cycles start, 84 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: and so I came in a great time because I 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: got to see that, you know, the eighty five team, 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: the eighty seven team, write some stuff about them so exciting. 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: You know, that Bush State and the old Bush State 88 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: name was unbelievable. And I wasn't even here for the 89 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: eighty two World Series yet, but you know, and then 90 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: there was this law, the long slog. You know, from 91 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: eighty eighty eight through ninety five they didn't make the 92 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: playoffs and it was awful. 93 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: And then when built the Wood bought the team. 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: And then you know, also Jack Getty and Russa and 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: Moe came Mo joined the Cardinals in nineteen ninety five. 96 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: I tell you what that when the. 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: Cardinals made total Lruss's first made the first team sorry 98 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: and Saint Louis nineteen ninety six, got all the way 99 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: into Game seven of the NLCS. 100 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: It was just such a ride. It was so much fun, 101 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: so much from. 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: Two thousand through twenty fifteen, just like postseason, postseason, postseason, postseason. 103 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they were the best team in baseball basically 104 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 3: for sixteen years, which doesn't mean they won the most 105 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: World Series, but I'm just saying year in, year out, 106 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: and i mean, oh my gosh, I just see when 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: you were talking about just getting that feeling just for 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: that one time in twenty point two at home. You know, 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: I just like I was thinking, yeah, man, I was 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: blessed because I love baseball, and I just was, you know, 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: covering all those games for like sixteen consecutive years plus 112 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: ninety six, you know, all of those postseason games. And 113 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: I was writing something today and it brought me back 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: to memories of that Game six of the World Series 115 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: in twenty eleven. And I've been very fortunate to have 116 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: seen some extraordinary things just locally. I mean, the nineteen 117 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: ninety nine Rams, things like that, the Blues winning the 118 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: Stanley Cup. I'd have to say, if someone asked me, 119 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: Game six of that World Series was the greatest sporting 120 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: event that I've watched, and certainly the greatest baseball game 121 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: I've ever watched in terms of being there, you know. 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: And so sometimes I squawk, like everybody squawks. Writers squawk, 123 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: that's what we do. But man, what a treasure trove, 124 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: I mean, a huge treasure of all these great memories. 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: So I feel you what you were saying. 126 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: And that's why when they come out of this rebuild, 127 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: I am very confident they're going to be in a 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: really good place. 129 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: And you know, so I hope you stay long enough. 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: Is your a star? 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: No? In my own mind, maybe, so yeah. 132 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: You better stay because you know, you deserve to. You 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: deserve to go through that stuff because it's fun. It's work, 134 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: but it's fun, it's exhilarating. See people think we don't 135 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: care about that stuff. 136 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: No, gosh, it's a thrill. 137 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: It's like I got into this whole mess, this racket 138 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: for big event. I wanted to see greatness. I wanted 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: to write about greatness. I wanted a big big events, 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: big players, big stars, big moments. So that that's one 141 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: of the things that just keeps me going. I don't 142 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: mean it going so long. I'll be brief after this, 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: but see, you got me started on this. 144 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: I said we were going to be sentimental, and now 145 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: here we are so emotional. 146 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 4: No, it's there's nothing like it, you know. 147 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: And we had just this ridiculously prosperous era of baseball 148 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: in Saint Louis, which is one of the reasons why 149 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: and people get mad at me, and I'm not I'm 150 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: not belittling anyone, but it's kind of like, you know, 151 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: when I say we, I'm talking about the media me, 152 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: we're talking about the fans too. We have had just 153 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: this extraordinary period of winning baseball and the last three years, yeah, 154 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 3: last three years, and okay, is it hell on Earth? No, 155 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: not even close, because the predominant part of the time 156 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: the Cardinals were excellent, and okay, they've been a conquer 157 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: for three straight years. I've seen worse things in sports, 158 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: and I'm speaking from my own perspective. 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: It's not that bad. I understand frustration, but it ain't 160 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: that bad. 161 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: It's not it. 162 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: At least we know going forward, and we'll have a 163 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: lot more clarity about this at the end of the 164 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: regular season what the plan will be. 165 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 5: And I think that's just what the fan base needs 166 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: to hear. 167 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: People in Saint Louis. 168 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals fans have such a strong knowledge and 169 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: passion for baseball and they're so smart. 170 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: So as long as. 171 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: They have an idea of what to expect and they 172 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: feel like that's being communicated to them clearly and without 173 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: the BS, I think the city will rally around it. 174 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Do I think they're going to sell out with stadium 175 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: every day in twenty twenty six, No, I do not 176 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: think that are is This organization is going to have 177 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: to earn some trust back. Yes, But as this twenty 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: twenty five season comes to a close, I'm a little 179 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: excited for rebuild because a new era of Cardinals baseball 180 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: is about to begin and that is really exciting. 181 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I agree with you with him Bloom 182 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: And someone asked me. Someone from the Cardinals asked me. 183 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: He said, like, if you could tell heim Blum anything, 184 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: what would you tell him as far as like introducing himself? 185 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: And I said, look, you know he won't want to 186 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: take shots at MO, but the way, the one thing 187 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: I would tell him. 188 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: Is this, this is our plan. 189 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: It may be a lot different than what we're all 190 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: used to with the Saint Louis Cardinals, but it's something 191 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: we really really feel we have to do. Then putting 192 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: it off, but it's time, and I promise you that 193 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 3: we will be better when we get through it. We 194 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: will be really good and really exciting and ready to 195 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: win again. But the one thing I won't do is 196 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: try to mislead you. I will always tell you the 197 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: truth and it will be transparent. And the person said, okay, 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 3: why do you think that that would be good? So 199 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: because and the person didn't disagree with me, but he said, 200 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: why do you think that would be good? I said, 201 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: because these people are just so tired of me and 202 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: basically lied to or misled or hustled or you know, 203 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: trying to do well well there, Well, we're no, we 204 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: think we can contend. 205 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 4: Oh, we think we can get, you know, and well, 206 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 4: we're not. We're not rebuilding. We'll never rebuild all this stuff. 207 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: And I was telling them, telling this person, I said, listen, 208 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: they the Cardinals fans who are great. 209 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: They may not like what they hear from heim Bloomer initially. 210 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: They may not like it. They may not have a 211 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: party who wants to hear rebuild. 212 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: Right. 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: But I can picture my mind some old guy like me, 214 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: maybe you know, saying like, well, I don't like this plan, 215 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: but I tell you what, I get this guy credit 216 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: for telling me the truth about it. At least I 217 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: can trust him. He's not trying, he's not you're not 218 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: trying to hustle me. At least this guy tells the truth. 219 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: So and I think that that alone will be a 220 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 3: huge thing forward for the Cardinals because the messaging will 221 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: change dramatically and the transparency will really improve. 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: Anyway, agreed, And here, let's let's go right into our 223 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: DraftKings player to watch segment, because this is onevolved two players, 224 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: one that we can't watch anymore because it's the injured list. 225 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: But this will require us being transparent about the future 226 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: careers of both of these players. So let's get right 227 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: into it, all right, our draft Kings players spotlight In 228 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: case you missed, it's not really news anymore, but we'll 229 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: reference it anyway. Wilson Contreras has a season any biceps 230 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: strain who was placed on the interur list on Wednesday, 231 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: effectively ending his season. When you're looking at what Wilson 232 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: Contreras did this season first year as a full time 233 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: first baseman, he hit twenty homer's career high ADRBI and 234 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: played a very serviceable first base, you look across the 235 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: diamond to his cornerstone counterpart, Nolan Ronado continues to play. 236 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: I mean, how refreshing is it to see Nolan. 237 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: Arronado as third base again? That defense? 238 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: It's after watching it for five years. Nolan and I 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: got here in the same season in twenty twenty one. 240 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: I just got so spoiled as to the most difficult 241 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: plays looking routine and unfairly. When I was watching Nolan, 242 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Gorman was like, those plays need to be made, Okay, 243 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: no they Nolan Arnatto makes every impossible play look easy. 244 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: So I've enjoyed watching him return. 245 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: I know it's been in a season he wanted. 246 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five from a performance standpoint, especially offensively. 247 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: But when you look at those two players and where 248 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: they are at and their careers, two very distinguished veterans, 249 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: both under contract for two more years, both with full 250 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: no trade causes, the Cardinals are gonna have to have 251 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: very honest conversations. And I'm only talking a little bit 252 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: about the front office. I'm also talking to ownership here 253 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: about the careers of Contreras and Arnado, and if that, 254 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to go to a rebuild 255 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: and focus on the youth, do either of them have 256 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: a place in the organization. 257 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: We know are for Ronado. I mean, they've been trying 258 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: to move him for a year. 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to try a lot harder to move 260 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: him after his performance this year. Wilson Contreras has been 261 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: very adamant that he does not want to waive his 262 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: no trade cause. But with the Cardinals expected to announce 263 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: an official rebuild very soon, does that change Contra's timeline. 264 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure he wants to win again, That's why he 265 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: signed to come here. 266 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: In Saint Louis. 267 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: So my question for you, Bernie, for our Draft Kings 268 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: player spotlight is and we'll throw Sunny Gray in there too. 269 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: Why not between Wilson, Conturists, Sunny, Gray, Nolan Arnado, who's 270 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: most likely to get traded? And do you think that 271 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: there is a chance for all three don't return to 272 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Saint Louis next year? 273 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 4: That's interesting. I never thought about that. I guess it's possible. 274 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 4: I still think that. 275 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, there's there's obstacles. You know, will 276 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: Gray be willing to waive his no trade? Maybe maybe selectively? 277 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: So it's got to be a place he really wants 278 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: to be, So that's number one. Contreras. I think he's 279 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: very happy to be with the Cardinals. I think he's 280 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: proud to be with the Cardinals. I think he he 281 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: wants to be a guy that's known is that. 282 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't want to cut and run 283 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: when things get bad. I'm here. I want to help 284 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 4: the Cardinals turn this around. I think he's very genuine. 285 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: Arnattos is a matter of, frankly, whether a whether there's 286 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: going to be enough interest in him that would lead 287 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: to a trade and be whether he would approve and 288 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: see what the cardinal how much are they willing to 289 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: chip in to make the trade happen Financially so I 290 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: don't know. 291 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a tough question. I think Grace still 292 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: probably would have the most value. 293 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: Even though he's he's really been up and down, very 294 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: inconsistent this year. He's still got good stuff and teams 295 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: need starting pitching right, so I would I would say 296 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: he'd be the most likely to go, but he still 297 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: has the final word on it. That's what's you know, 298 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: It's never we talked about this last week. It's always 299 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: complicated with the Cardinals, you know. The one thing about 300 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: and Iron out of We've been through that many many times. 301 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: So one thing I'll say about, you know, Conterrero's he's 302 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: still a really good player. You know, the Cardinals improved 303 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: both offensively and defensively at first base this season. I 304 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: mean his like his defensive metrics are better than Paul Goldschmidt. 305 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: Schmid's were last year. And Contrera's offense. 306 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: I looked this up yesterday, like if he used way 307 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: to Runs creative plus fancy pants stat it's same as 308 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: ops plus. 309 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: I think it's a little better. Contrasts is tied with 310 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: Bryce Harper in terms of you know, way to runs 311 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: creative plus this year among first basemen. I mean Wilson. 312 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: Con Terras's is like a top eight first basement in 313 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: the majors offensively, and he's a plus defender. I think 314 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: he was tied for fourth and outs above average, so 315 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: they so he is still like really really good and 316 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: really for what they're paying him, he's on the pace 317 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: at the end of this contract, he's on pace. If 318 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: you look at the Fangrass value, he's on pace to 319 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: be the five year deal will have been worth you know, 320 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: about one hundred and ten hundred and twelve hundred and 321 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars and that's like an eighty seven point 322 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: five million dollar investment. 323 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 4: So the question is, I mean I see, in fact 324 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: I see it. 325 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: When you ever write about Conterra's I always go for 326 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: the fun because there's so many people in a comment 327 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: section just oh. 328 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: They got to get rid of him, they got to 329 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: get Why would they have to get rid of him? 330 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't understand, and you know, and and I answered 331 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: some emails at Stlcentral dot com about this, and I 332 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: just say, you know, there's so many false premise criticisms 333 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: of him, and it bugs me because if you're going 334 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: to say they got to get him out of here, 335 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: you got to know your facts, right. One of the 336 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: things I heard is like, well, he's not in the 337 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: middle of the lineup hitter. Well, first of all, even 338 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: if that was true, it's not his fault. That's more 339 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: of a reflection on the team that they built. But 340 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: the other thing, his numbers batting three, four and five 341 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: or five as a cardinal three four five. 342 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: Really really, really, really good. 343 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: And the other thing is that I hear, well, you know, 344 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: he gets hurt a lot, and look, he's banged up 345 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: against this year, played his most have played appearances in 346 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: this season since his like age twenty sixth season. He 347 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: played more this year and he has a long time. 348 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: So that's a false premise. That was one of the 349 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: reasons to move them to first base. The other thing 350 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: is all he doesn't hit in the clutch, false premise. 351 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: His numbers and his numbers in highlight average, his numbers 352 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: and runners score is very very good. 353 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm really. 354 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: I am going to loss to explain like how some 355 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: people think he is a problem and he's got They 356 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 3: got to go, well, he's hot headed. 357 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 4: Well, I've been in Saint. 358 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: Louis since nineteen eighty five covering baseball and I seem 359 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 3: to remember conclusively Saint Louis loves hard those players who 360 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: were scrappy and intense, and they're not you know, they'll 361 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: they'll they'll stir it up. 362 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 4: On the field. So why is that now? Oh we 363 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 4: can't have this now? Like why I'm confused? 364 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: Saint Louis is known for loving those kind of players. 365 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: Did I think you're You're exactly right. 366 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: So I don't get it. 367 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: I don't get this anti controllerst currency out there. And 368 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm not saying all Cardinals fans, I do not get it. 369 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 3: And if you're going to say trade him, because give 370 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: me reasons that are legitimate reasons, not because you don't 371 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: like him personally. 372 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: Right, that's right. 373 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: I think if the organization I'm going to trade or 374 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: at least look, that's something he even wants. It's too 375 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: clear a space because they have so many first base 376 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: DH guys, which again is not a reflection of Conterrass, 377 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: it's a reflection of the roster. 378 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: We know this, we talk about it all the time. 379 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: But that would create space for Burls in full time 380 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: at first base, which would create more space than the 381 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: outfield for somebody else, Etta, et cetera. And for that reason, 382 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: like we we know that are not a discourse. We've 383 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: talked about it for like twelve straight months. Unless oship 384 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: is willing to pay more money, they're not going to 385 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: be able to trade him. That being said, ownership should 386 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: pay more money. It's whats best for the organization and 387 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: the player to move on from. 388 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: And they're still going to save money and they're still 389 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: going to save money. 390 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: But for Contreras, I think somebody great, it's a little 391 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: more interesting because I think he does. You're right, he 392 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: does have more value. Starting pitching is always the high cost. 393 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: He's not going to go just to go. It's going 394 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: to have to be a contender. It's going to be 395 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: somewhere close to Nashville. He's very particular, as we know, 396 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: and he's earned the right to be. For Contreras, if 397 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: he does decide to look at his options, there there 398 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: will be something out there for There will be a 399 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: market for conturers. Based on the bat alone. 400 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 5: I would be very surprised come twenty twenty six if 401 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 5: I would be shocked come twenty twenty six if all 402 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: three players are with the Cardinals. But I would be 403 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: a little surprised if all three or not. I would 404 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 5: say two go, and the two that I think go 405 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: are Aron. 406 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: Auto and Sunny and Gray. So book mark this, come 407 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: back to February and tell. 408 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: Me i'd co sign on that. Because I never answered 409 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: the question, not that I'm talking. I was just talking 410 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: because it's very because, very difficult, uh proposition. 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No, right there you go. 440 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: Actually it's pretty good. 441 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: That's what you got, Bobby. 442 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: That that's like, you know, oh, okay, a good pumpkin 443 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: spice a lot take costs more than five bucks, right yeah, 444 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, so yeah, I mean that's a that's a 445 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: great h that's a great buy. 446 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: Don't forgetet it. 447 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: We have one more sponsorship and then Berniona are going 448 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: to do uh to John if you will. As he 449 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: enters the final three games at his long decorated Cardinals career, 450 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: he will be with the team before the end of 451 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: the season. I believe he has plans to be in 452 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: Chicago for the final series of the season, but I'd 453 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: be interested to see how Bush Stadium. I don't know 454 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: if I can around based on current trends. Recognize this 455 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: and remembers him. First, I'll look for here from Arena Club. 456 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 4: We will be hey. 457 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: If you're a card collector or you're looking to collect, 458 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 7: I sell trade Arena Club to the spot. I'm going 459 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 7: to tell you why because the old process a j 460 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 7: was very packed, tons of comments, send it in for grading, 461 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 7: and then finally you get everything back. This is weeks 462 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 7: and weeks and you can start to try and sell 463 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 7: the car. We have eliminated that with Arena Club, or 464 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 7: they have. I act like I'm part of it, but 465 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 7: in really one step. 466 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 8: Arena's your one stuff shop for everything get is there. 467 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 8: It's grated, It spins around coolly shows you three D 468 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 8: the front, the back, You can look at the corners, 469 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 8: you can look at everything, and then you get a decision. 470 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 8: Do I want to keep it? Do I want to 471 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 8: sell it? Do I want to trade? 472 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: It? 473 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 8: Gives you an instant offer. You can buy it back 474 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 8: and re rip another slap pack and try for someone else, 475 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 8: or you can keep it and hope the value goes 476 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 8: up and sell it a later date. It is truly 477 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 8: the best spot to get. 478 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 7: Carved twenty percent off your first can be had right 479 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 7: now at Arena club dot com. Slash fr u L 480 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 7: and use code foul. 481 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 5: All right, Bernie, the John Mosalla Eira is coming. 482 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: To an end. 483 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: He will be in attendance for the final three games 484 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: is obviously at BAD. I know that you have a 485 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: video that I would highly recommend people checking out, dedicated 486 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: towards Mo and his career. There's no way we'll be 487 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: able to fit in his entire career when he's accomplished 488 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: for this organization and Major League Baseball in this short segment, 489 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: but what would you like to see or how would 490 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: you like to see Moby remembered this in his final 491 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: health series. 492 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 3: As you know, I've been a really tough critic of 493 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: Mode the last couple of three years. Okay, and so 494 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: uh when I when I said about to do this video, 495 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: which isn't up yet but it will be, and it's long, 496 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: but you can watch it in sections like you would 497 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 3: listen to a radio talk show, in sections. You know, 498 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, people are going to say, well, 499 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: you're a hypocrite because you've been pound on it, Because 500 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: my my, it's not only my wish. But it's also 501 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: my belief that Cardinals fans on Sunday, because I do 502 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: believe John was like, I'll be thrown out of some 503 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: ceremonial first pitch, should treat him with kindness, and they 504 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 3: should be polite, and they should be civil. 505 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: And they should appreciate. 506 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: As frustrating as the recent seasons have been, they really should, 507 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: they really should take time, deep breath and remember all 508 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: the great baseball that John mose Like played a huge 509 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: role in providing for. 510 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: This fan base. 511 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: You know, when you have when you have year after 512 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: year after year after year after year after year of success, 513 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: high end success, that's not that all that doesn't get 514 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: wiped away in a race because you've had three disappointing seasons. 515 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: It doesn't work that way. 516 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 3: And I also think, and this will be my last 517 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: point on this, I also think Saint Louis sins I 518 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: moved here and I consider myself a Saint Louis and 519 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: Saint Louis baseball fans have had an impeccable reputation with 520 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 3: in not just baseball but all sports, of being classy, 521 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: the type of fans that will applaud visiting players when 522 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: they make a great play or they do something special, 523 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: Cardinals fans will give them an ovation. And it's like 524 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: through the years, Katie, I can't tell you how many 525 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: baseball people from other teams, players, managers, etc. 526 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: Instead of like got these fans are incredible. I mean 527 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: they're just incredible. They're so they love. 528 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: Baseball so much they appreciate even when the visiting team 529 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: does something. So my take on this is people around 530 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: the country, you know, they noticed all the empty seats. 531 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 3: They notice like the fans stayed away, and it's kind 532 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: of like, oh, you know, best fans of baseball type stuff, right, sarcasm. 533 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 4: If Cardinals fans after this incredible. 534 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 3: Run that John as they like said, if there is 535 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: noticeable booing or just unpleasantness. 536 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: And they can't they can't see it. 537 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 3: To basically take what three minutes four minutes to show 538 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 3: appreciation for all the great years, that's kind of sad 539 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: and I'd hate to see. I want Saint Louis baseball 540 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: fans to just maintain that great reputation they have. Right, 541 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: you can be upset with the way things have gone on, 542 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: of course, but you should have the class to appreciate 543 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: all the great stuff that happened with him being Walt 544 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: Jackeyese top assistant, the guy who was in charge of 545 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: the draft when they drafted Poolholes and Molina, and then 546 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: their record even with the last three years baked in, 547 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: their record since he became the head of the baseball 548 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: operations in two thousand and eight, I mean, it's really 549 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 3: really good, even with the bad stuff baked in. 550 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 4: So show some class. Please be vi. 551 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: Fully upset over the state of the franchise right now. 552 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't blame you, I get it. We just talked 553 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: about how disappointed I was to have you know, thy 554 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: straight seasons about the October. You can also take a 555 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: look at what Saint Louis Cardinals have accomplished over the 556 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: last two decades. I mean I laughed about this with 557 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: last month. He's been with the Cardinals longer than I've 558 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: been alive. That is impressive to and uh, I think 559 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: that took both of us by surprising when we figured 560 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: that about. That's impressive to do in any franchise with 561 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: any sport base on in particular when when change and 562 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: turnover is very, very high, and the Saint Louis Cardinals 563 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: are one of the most prestigious historic franchises in professional 564 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: sports for a reason. Yes, the state of the franchise 565 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: right now is not great, but Mo has done in 566 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: his entire career. It's a testament hard work, perseverance. I 567 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: mean hack He started as the beating practice because he 568 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: was left handed for the Colorado Rockies, and then he 569 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: went I don't know if you guys have ever talked 570 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: to a professional sports. 571 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: Clubhouse attendant before. If there's one job that's less glamorous. 572 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: Than writer, it would be that and worked his way 573 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: up to be one of the most highest ranking officials 574 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: and one of the best sports to work in. 575 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: Have your grids him. 576 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: No one's claiming he's perfect. 577 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: We certainly have not been best friends for many times 578 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: over the last five years, but there's a lot to 579 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: be expected and appreciated about what he's done in his career. 580 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: And if you don't feel the same way, that's totally okay, 581 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: that's totally right, No reason to boo. He's eving anyway. 582 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: You should be cheering and that's how you feel. So 583 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: I think that that we'll hear from a one more time. 584 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: He'll do an end of seasons conference, and then guess 585 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: what if you don't want to hear from ever. 586 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: Again, you don't have to. I hope remembers. I hope remember. 587 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 3: You know, look, and you know the two thousand level 588 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: World Series. The work he did putting that team together 589 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 3: and then filling in holes during the season was phenomenal. 590 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: And yet I've had people tell me, well, he doesn't 591 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 3: deserve any credit for that. 592 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 4: Oh he doesn't. I don't know. I thought David Freese was. 593 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: It was the scouting director for Albert Poole's. 594 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 4: Or yeah, right, and you out of your Millana. And 595 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: you know, also, you didn't like the Lence Berkman trade. 596 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 4: How that worked? 597 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 3: The guy that saved the season in Game six, two strikes, 598 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 3: two outs, cars are behind, bottom of the tenth, Berkman 599 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: beautiful stroke opposite field, game tied, Freeze wins it. 600 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: So you didn't like that. 601 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he saved the season with those flipped and 602 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: Kobe Rasmus, whoever, nobody could, nobody liked he could play, 603 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: but he didn't get even try to get the. 604 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 4: Most of his ability. 605 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: He flipped him a three way where he got a 606 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: starting pitcher he needed and two relievers that he needed, 607 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: and they don't win the World Series. And that twenty eleven, 608 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Matt ho Holiday for nothing in two thousand 609 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: and nine, they win the division after they get in. 610 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: I mean, these are just some of the things. I 611 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: could go on and on and on. 612 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: But since he became the head of Baseball operations in 613 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, the only two teams that have 614 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: played in more postseasons. 615 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: Are the Dodgers and the Yankees. And I would say 616 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: they have like a little bit of a financial. 617 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: A little player market. 618 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: Three, right, you know one other thing. 619 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: I love this one, you know, so they'll have I 620 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: assume they're going to have a losing season this year, 621 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: So that'd be two losing seasons in eighteen years. And 622 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's great. You never want to see 623 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: a losing season. The other teams in the l Central combined. 624 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: When the Cardinals have had two losing seasons as of 625 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: right now, this doesn't count. You know, maybe Cincinnati losing season. 626 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh will have a LOSA. 627 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 4: Let me just shut up. Two losing seasons. 628 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: The rest of the teams in the Vision combined, and 629 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: this includes when Houston was still here, have combined for 630 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 3: forty one losing seasons. 631 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: Cardinals event too. 632 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not that's not too shabby. 633 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 4: I don't think, oh no, we haven't bad. It's hell 634 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: on earth. 635 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: So anyway, well, I mean it's a great record. I 636 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: understand the disappointment, but it's like, don't let that block 637 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: out all of the great. 638 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Been likely Cardinals Hall of Famer and his significance with 639 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: major League Baseball. It's something that is going to be 640 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: talked about and remembered for a very long time. 641 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: So with that, I got. 642 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: To go to the ballpark for our last three years, 643 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: and baseball happened. Bernie and I will be back and 644 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: talk to you next week for the last week of 645 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: the season, but we'll save all those goodbyes for later. 646 00:30:45,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: For Bernie, I'm Katie. This is criminal territory.