1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day. If Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: dot Com, the radio plus mobile last and on your radio, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash and I'm Karen Moscow. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Futures this morning moving higher along with nine x scrude oil. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: Let's go to the first Word breaking news desk for 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: today's morning call. Here's Bill Maloney. Good morning Bill, Good 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: morning Karen. Futures are maintaining their games since the last 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: time we spoke without Futures currently hired by seventy points, 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: SYSS gain eight and a half and as the futures 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: rise by twenty two the U S ten Uel at 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: one point eight seven per cent. Many europ markets are 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: also climbing, led by gains in Spain and Germany. On 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: the economic Frontay nine forty five market, U S Services, 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: p m I at ten o'clock, Bank of Canada rate 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: decision at ten thirty, Energy Inventories and FED speak at 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: nine o'clock eleven forty and two pm after the bellis night. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Computer Scientists to merge with its services unit of HP 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Enterprize Computer Sciences is up twenty nine percent pre market. 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Also last night, into It raised your jes EPs and 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: revenue views and Nimble Storage keeps your REVENUEE also topped 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: estimates regarding earnings. 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James live from 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: the first Break your News desk on Bill Maloney. Karen 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: thanks Bill to hear live breaking news over your Bloomberg 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: type squawk and go on your terminal. That's s Q 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: you a w k go, that's a Bloomberg business flash. 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike, Karen thanks so much, greatly, appreciate that. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Good morning everyone. Bloomberg Surveillance brought you by Investco to 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the a's headlines. Have you searching for more investment views? 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Investco's experts can help find the latest thought leadership at 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: the Investco block. Visit investco dot com slash us to subscribe. 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: Investco dot com slash us to subscribe. All stocks are 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: the same, All bank stocks are the same over the 42 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: last ten years. Do you want to these are all 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: rounded numbers? Do you want to make a negative ten 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: percent per year over the last ten years in Bank 45 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: of America? Or do you want to make a positive 46 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: seven percent per year? And Wells Fargo now joining us 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Michael may Mayo c s l A through Strill Davon, 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Mike Great, great to speak to you. I'm as guilty, Mike, 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: of anyone in New York City. I'm not talking enough 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: about Fortress, Stump explained to Mere Mortals. Why is Wells 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Fargo different from the other too big to fail banks? Well, 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm fresh off a red eye well far Ago had 53 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: there once every two year Investor Day yesterday in San Francisco. 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you Wellth Fargo. The depth of the 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: management is incredible. They've had a consistent strategy for the 56 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: last two decades. And over the last decade, Wells Fargo 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: has shown better revenues, better returns and better risk. And 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: now you let off contracting that to Bank America and Thomas. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: You know, I went to the annual meeting for Bank 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: America just a few weeks ago, and I said to 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: the CEO, what are your financial targets? What time frame 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: do you have to your financial targets? And they would 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: not disclose those yesterday. In contrast, the strong outperforming bank 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: well Fargo gave a multitude of financial targets with frame 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: um and said they hold them solved, accountable, and they 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: achieved those goals. The key idea here, and folks, I 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: want to look forward. I don't. I don't want to 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: do a history lesson with Mike Mayo's too valuable. The 69 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: look forward is there's all these problems, all these distractions 70 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: in the clouds part and the sun shines down in 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen or eighteen, and these machines start returning 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: cash to shareholders. Is Wells Fargo Mike Mayo's single best buy. 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Well you know, we look at short term, medium term, 74 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: and long term and long term, Wells Fargo is the 75 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: bank to own. You know, they just still miss Wells Fargo. 76 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Why are they successful? Because they are independent thinkers? So 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: miss number one branches bank branches are dead. Well, guess what. 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo made it very clear that's not the case. 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Millennials use bank branches. Two out of three millennials used 80 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: bank branches still and they use them quite frequently. Miss 81 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: number two. Banks can't innovate. You know, financial technology is 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: going to eat thanks much wrong for the innovation Wells 83 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: Fargo showed yesterday was quite amazing. They'll be able to 84 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: tell who you are, Tom by not only your thumb 85 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: print and voice recognition, but also recognizing your eye will 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: be all authentication. It's really incredible. I had a preview 87 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: of that. And you stare into your your phone with 88 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: certain software, it recognizes who you are in less than 89 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: a minute and it never forgets who you are. Did 90 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: you have a drink? Did you have a drink in 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: your John Tucker and I want to know do they 92 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: have bowtie recognition software recognize your eyeball when you're hungover? McKey, 93 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: Michael McKee jump in here with the the I recognition 94 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: of Michael Mayo off the red Eye exactly. I thought 95 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: you touched on one of the key UH questions about 96 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo very early on in the conversation here when 97 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned risk. What is their attitude towards risk and 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: how does it differ from the other banks, because they 99 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: don't seem to take as much of as many risks 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: in trying to raise their earnings. And that's part of 101 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: Well Fargo's DNA. Everybody is to degree a risk manager. 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: They are independent thinkers. They don't follow the crowd. And 103 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: before the financial crisis they gave up, you know, a 104 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: lot of revenues when everybody was making their subprime loans. 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: They said, we're not going to do that. So they 106 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: truly do look longer term. Uh. And they're willing to 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: say no to deals and loans uh. And this is 108 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: just part of a culture. And you know, you can't 109 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: write a memo and tell another thank how to do this. 110 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: This is you know, many steps over a number of years. 111 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: What's uh, Are they going to be able to keep 112 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: it up um? Or does it even get better for 113 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: them under a new FED regime or are they going 114 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: to be forced at some point into a different business model. 115 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: There is zero chance in my mind that they're changing 116 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: their business model. In fact, if you look at the 117 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: annual report from two decades ago, from twenty years ago, 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the strategy of Well Fargo today is very similar to 119 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: the strategy back then, the idea of going great customer 120 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: service cross Now, it's not all roses here for Wells Fargo. 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: There's additional regulatory burdens. Roll Fargo has five hundred billion 122 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: dollars of cash or near cash on its balance sheet. 123 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: That that's money that's not in loans. It's fine. What 124 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: are they gonna do with half a trillion dollars? I 125 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: want my fair share? Well, part of this is the 126 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: regulators regulars are saying we want you to be and 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: that drags down returns and they had guided Okaya home run. 128 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for reporting to us and giving 129 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: your your perspective off the red eye from that important 130 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: annual meeting. Michael Mayo was c L s A. 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