WEBVTT - The Draft Show: Day 1 is Here! 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:22.280 M Dallas Cowboys Radio Network is do the Air, Cowboy. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:27.400 This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft with Sean Shariffe, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:04:01.040 Brian Bronnus, Bobby Belt, Dave Helmut, and Kyle Yeoman's night 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.000 where I talked to my final guy last night and 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.360 I said, enough, I'm done. I can't do this anymore. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.280 I mean what happens is, though you're trying to, you know, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.160 everybody's got and that's the beauty of what's we're about 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.240 to see these next three days and especially today in 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.920 the first night. Yeah, with really and we use the 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.679 word chaos, but that's that's kind of where we're living 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.080 right now. We're living in that where with these teams 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.960 with multiple picks and there should we back up? Should 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:33.479 we make the picks? You know? And I think that's where, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.479 like I said, last night, very very late, I said, 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.680 I gotta hang up. I'm hey, good luck tomorrow. Hope 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.040 all the tags glow for you, Hope you find your 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.360 Pro Bowl guys. But that's kind of where we are 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.400 right now. Being a radio guy, always root for chaos, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.599 you know, storylines a mess, and it feels like this 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.360 draft has like lack like your big sexy names in 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.720 terms of the studs, but that's created a lot more uncertainty. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.120 Uh and and I feel like, if you're a team, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.520 where's the s we eat spot in this thing? A 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.360 lot of people are talking about mid rounds. This morning, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.880 I said, are you a little disappointed if you're Jacksonville 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.799 or you're Detroit and you don't have your Trevor Lawrence 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.440 or you're Andrew Luck if you're the Where the Cowboys 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.080 sit in relation to the sweet spot in this draft? 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:18.280 Bobby with supposedly fourteen or fifteen guys as first round grades. Yeah, 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.520 I think they're in a bit of a tough spot 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.520 in the first round. Like, I don't know that the 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.520 values necessarily going to be there. I think that's why 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.680 you've started to hear chatter about do they want to 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.120 look to go up? Do they want to try and 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.680 trade up. That's why Jerry is very publicly talked about like, yeah, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.680 i'd be interesting going up because we're so far back. 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.159 But you know, Steven said it the other day, third 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.760 through fifth round that's gonna be, you know, kind of 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.440 a real deep I think they're gonna find a lot 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.599 of value there, and so they're fortunate to have what 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.320 four fifth round picks, and so they've got all those 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.440 fifth round picks, they're in a good spot in the 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.599 third and fourth round. I just I'll be interested to see. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.560 The thing I keep wondering about about trading up is 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.200 do they look at this as it's so deep in 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.600 the middle, and like Stephen had talked about thin at 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.760 the top and the first thin in the second, do 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.039 they view that second round pick as just we can 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.080 stand to sacrifice that to get the value right in 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.760 the first and then we'll coast and third, fourth, fifth, Yeah, 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.440 I kind of feel like that's why you've heard the 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.880 rumors about a Tyler Smith from Tulsa as being a 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.280 possibility at twenty four, because all of a sudden, it's 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.400 like you're thinking, when you're picking at the bottom of 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.600 the board, you're like, we're not going to get this 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.600 guy when we come back to fifty six. So sometimes 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.640 you have to think of a little bit more of 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.800 a way of like, maybe we've got to grab this 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:29.800 guy now because if we don't, we're just not going 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.080 to get him. And I get having that mindset in 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.120 the later days of a draft, but is it too 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.400 early to do that at twenty four, because I feel 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:38.960 like that's where a lot of the nervous energy around 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.039 the Star lies right now, is with the prospect that 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.919 you feel like you're reaching on but it's still a 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.760 first round pick. Yeah, that's the thing where you you worry. 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.200 But we call it reaching to those guys and gals 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.560 in those rooms, that's their guy, you know, that's where 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.760 you know, and we'll talk about it and we'll be 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.040 happy or we'll be disappointed, or we'll be whatever. You know, 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.120 and then and then you know. But I think that 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.039 our listening audience too, when we started talking about the 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:05.640 name of a guy like a Tyler Smith that they 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.080 where everybody was like, no, no, we're not you know, 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.720 let's do something else. But to them, they see a big, 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:14.120 athletic guy that's got a lot of traits. But it 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.520 might be like Bobby's talked about really on one oh 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.040 five three has been Hey, no, this is a guy 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.960 that's a second round guy. Let's be honest. They're going 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.480 to take a second round guy to nine on their board. Yeah, 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.160 but they took but but then, but then think about 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.280 think about the draft with Travis Frederick when we were 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:30.680 all sitting in here and going, man, that was a 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.640 third round grade. Yeah, that was a third round grade 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.880 on our board. But now then he turns into like 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.360 an all pro player. The funny thing too, is, and 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.040 I fall victim to this every year, is like the 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.680 snowball kind of starts and it turns into an avalanche 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.960 of just everybody thinking the same because that's what happens, 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.680 and there's so much information. We don't have that with 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.440 Zach Rivy too. But Brian, it's it's a great example. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.600 If I'm if I'm not mistaken, you have a second 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.640 round grade on Zion Johnson, don't you. Yeah, I do, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.680 actually him and Green both, and I've got a Green 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.880 above Johnson. So it's funny to me, and we led 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.840 the show with this, is like there's maybe a dozen 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.640 guys that you feel rock solid about and then the 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.280 rest it's just beauties in the eye of the beholder. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.760 And so that could be Tyler Smith, that could be 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.440 Zion Johnson, that could be you know, I think most 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.160 teams probably have a second round grade on a guy 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.960 like Trail and Burke's who's widely seen as like that 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.040 would be a good pick. But I just it feels 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.640 like there's like fifty names that sort of makes sense 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.800 in that range that we're talking about. I mean, I think, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.360 you know, we've talked in the past about you guys 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.640 narrowed it down really effectively. Layton vander Ess was going 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.960 to be the pick. Narrowed it down really effectively. Tristan 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.000 Hill was going to be the pick. I legitimately, I 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.600 was sitting here earlier this afternoon. Star Yeah, yeah, An, 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.480 I need a pushy coach to come in here today 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.440 to narrow this down for us. But I was looking 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:46.480 at it, and I think I legitimately could say there's 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.920 seven names I feel like could be the first round pick, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.719 maybe more. But like like that's the kind of the 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.800 spot here because it's like do they go up, do 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.679 they go back? Do they stampat? We don't know what 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.280 happens ahead of them. I think that's part of the 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.960 reason for a lot of the the you know, uncertain 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:01.839 and see about what goes on ahead of them is 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.719 because I think the cowboys are looking at this is 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.840 like this is the wild West in front of us too, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.199 Like we don't totally know what's gonna happen here. Guy. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.360 That goes back to what Sean was talking about earlier. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.599 There's not those big names in this draft, and the 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.720 names ten through sixty or so interchangeable that the teams 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.000 from eleven on down to the Cowboys at twenty four 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.520 are gonna shape the way the Cowboys look at their 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.720 board whenever it comes up. It's one of those trust 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.640 the tape, trust your board. Right now, we're hearing those names, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.040 the Zion Johnson's, the Kenyon Greens, the Tyler Smiths as 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.439 the names they like on that board. But whether or 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.920 not they're even there is going to be the biggest 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.080 question because there is so much chaos that's gonna happen. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.400 And if you're rooting for chaos, Sean, which you said 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.199 you were, Yes, I think you're in for a lot 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.080 of at night tonight, Kyle Yeoman's David Helman, Brian brought us, 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.560 Bobby Thought. I'm Sean Shreef here opening up our twenty 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.000 twenty two NFL Draft coverage on one oh five through 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.400 the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Let's go around 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.720 the room with your own personal wish list. Well, you 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.720 want to do wish list or position and need which 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.360 one you want to start off with? Yeah? I think 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.199 that I think that if you if you ask me, 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.800 I'll go with the player you know, and I have 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.360 Green above Johnson. But you know, we'll see I believe 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.440 in those tags are touching there. They could flip this 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.720 saying I think the guy that will most likely be 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.720 there will be Green because I think of some of 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.320 the medical concerns. You know, people will talk about the knee. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.520 It's nothing like you know that's going to should keep 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.960 him from getting drafted, but you know there's something there 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.120 with the meniscus that they're going to have to continue 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.520 to monitor. So but to me, I'd like to see 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.920 them fix this offensive line, and I think adding either 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.120 Green or Zion Johnson. I would really love them to 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:39.120 draft Tyler Lindebom, the center from Iowa. But the fact 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.400 that Bobby Belt has been kind of reporting that maybe 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.040 that Zion Johnson's going to be the center or could 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.520 be a projected center. Yeah, So then to me, taking 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.440 one of those offensive linemen I think is the right 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.200 thing to do. I mean there's two sides. There's like 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.360 there's reckless me and then there's pragmatically, like if both 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.400 your reckless wide receiver, if you're asking for my wish list, 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.760 I just think the positions that I've other than like 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.120 the really beastly guys that the Cowboys have no shot 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.240 at your sauce gardener, your your Cavon Thibadeau. I think 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.240 the value in the first round is at receiver. Like 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.280 I can talk myself in any of those guys that 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.120 if I could draw, just wave a magic wand. I 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.520 think I've said this on the Draft Show. If I 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.400 could wave a magic wand and have a guy on 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.079 this team, it would be Jamison Williams. Now if I 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.440 could just happened that number one wide receiver, so if 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.439 I'd appreciate that, I think he's tire you kill all 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.280 over again? Wow? Yeah, No, I mean I do that. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.640 That speed is rare even among NFL receivers um and 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.280 I think he'll be ready for training camp. So do 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.160 I think that'll happen? No, Unfortunately, do we worry a 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.160 little bit about this team even with they had the 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.600 three wide receivers they had last year and they didn't 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.840 have it halfway through the season. They had the production, 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.400 But do you worry about adding another wide receiver and 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.040 not being able to run the ball or block effectively 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.480 as you needed to? And that's where the press. The 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.880 ragmatic Dave comes in and he's like, well, Kenyan Green 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.680 played every position on the O line in the SEC 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.160 and maybe you just fix that and doesn't matter how 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.120 fast Jamison Williams is that if Dak Prescott's getting sacked 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.600 five times. So I'm totally on board with that line 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.080 of thinking. And I'm going to go all the way 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.080 back to one of the first draft shows that we 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.800 had throughout this offseason, and Brian brought up the point 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.360 that if you're not doing something to help your quarterback 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.400 be successful, then I don't want to even talk about it. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.400 And sure, having Jamison Wilson or Williams, excuse me, we'll 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.560 have a certain impact on Dak Prescott. But I don't 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.520 know if you're fixing the offensive line could necessarily say 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:39.080 that that that's lesser than Jamison Williams are hating having 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.520 another wide receiver. You've got a block, you've got to 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.000 establish a run game, because if you don't, I think 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:45.640 Dak Prescott's in the same boat that he was in 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.880 twenty twenty. I totally get it. It's just not fun. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.280 That's not fun. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. I 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.000 was gonna say it'll be fun when they're rushing for 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.160 one hundred and eighty yards. Again, the depth is a 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.320 receiver and ed. So to me go sacrifice that second 0:12:58.360 --> 0:12:59.840 round pick, go up and get one of the linemen. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.839 Get a lineman who's worth the first round pick, make 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.240 it Penning Cross whoever. I don't care whichever one slides 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.440 into territory. That you can use that second to go up. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.600 Do it. Then use the third and fourth on the 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.040 receivers and the ad dressers. The point you made about 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.520 ten minutes ago, I hadn't considered, and I kind of 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.720 love it because I'm Brian you we've done this however 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.960 many years together. I'm I want my picks, I want 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.360 my throws at the dartboard. But I don't want me 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.360 to call you a coward. But but if you don't 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.800 feel good about the depth in the second round, and 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.320 I've run so many mocks this spring where you get 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.400 your receiver in the first and then you're like, oh, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.400 I don't love any of these guards in the second, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.680 or you get your guard in the first and you're like, oh, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.679 it's it's between an FCS guy and a five eight 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.680 guy at fifty six. Like what am I supposed to 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.960 do here. Yeah, maybe you do just get rid of 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.760 that pick and go get a badass, because there will 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.160 still be depth in the round three, four, and you 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.200 got plenty of picks in round five. Maybe that is 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.640 a conceivable. I think Bobby might be hearing the same 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.360 thing I am that if you're trying to get into 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.560 the say that spot, Bobby ten eleven twelve, Yeah, it's 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.120 gonna cost you fifty six, ye, but anything behind that 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.559 might cost you the third and something else if you 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.600 want to go up more seventeen twenty. Look at look 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.959 at Chargers. There the second picks for the Saints and 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.400 the Eagles, and then you've got the Steelers. Then you know, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.600 I think you could potentially get up in that territory 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.160 for the third. And they they've practiced that, they've gone 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.160 through these mocks, they've done every scenario they could potentially 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.240 think of in that war room, and a couple of 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.720 times at least through things that we've heard is that 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.800 they've gone up and they feel like they've been wiped 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.840 out at the same time. So that's a thing that 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:35.800 I think you need to keep an eye on. It's 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.080 got to be the right player. Bobby's mentioned a couple 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.240 of the names, Trevor Pinning out of northern Iowa, Charles 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.760 Cross out of Mississippi State, and I think even a 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.280 Cavon Thibadeau. I don't think that's as likely as the 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.360 other two. But if he were to somehow slip and 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.560 get outside that top ten, that's when I think the 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.160 Cowboys would get on the phone. It wouldn't necessarily be 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.320 just for anybody. It would have to be one of 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.520 those specific guys. And of course there's a lot of 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.680 uncertainty up tops. So let's go around the best of 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.280 the league. What's going to happen at one? We got 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.280 the a lot of NFC East activity above us as well. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.480 We are just getting started. Thank you for joining us. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.200 It's the twenty twenty two NFL Draft from Ford Center 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.000 at the Star on one oh five, through the Fan 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:25.520 and Dallas Cowboys dot com. And if you're still with us, yeah, 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.640 we are back on this tradition. And I mean, if 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.440 you listen to it before, you're familiar with it. Now 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.360 that you're a you're our private friends here yet dot 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.800 com you guys get like an ivy rolled in here, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.720 like no commercial breaks like this is going We're talking 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:40.960 you're talking to folks of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Right, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.480 I have fomo. I always have fomo on day two 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.120 in day three because I sit at home and I 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.960 put on the computer to this, I feel like I'm 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.600 in the big fancy room right now and uh me 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.040 and Bobby are getting initiated. So the pomo has gone 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.360 now for day one. Happy to have you, man. That's 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.320 the thing about it, too, is is you guys have 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.320 been around, even on the airwaves, longer than I have 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.640 at the same time, so like getting to actually work 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.040 with you guys is good. It's fun for me. I 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:09.600 feel the same way getting to work with you guys 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.240 for the first time as I did when I first 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.680 worked with brought uson helmet. Wait and see how it goes. Yeah, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.280 starts yelling at you about stuff like we're got to 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.320 start getting a little moody. See how Sean's gonna look 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.360 over at me and be like, we gotta go to break. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.520 I'm I'm gonna be hungry, Sean's gonna be off schedule, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.280 and Brian's gonna be mad about some pick like Brian's 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:33.440 stewing that n I've got two pins to throw now. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.640 I think you might need more. No, but guy that 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.840 Brian loves is gonna slip, and Brian's just gonna be like, 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.120 am I an idiot? Like like why do I even 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.360 do this? As soon as we came back from the 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.720 stream the the it dawned on me I should have 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.280 chugged that energy drink at about five fifty eight. Yeah, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.720 I'm gonna be real honest. I almost had a coughing 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.600 fit when we went right on the air. I looked 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.080 at Dave like, I'm gonna stake Dave's bottle and go over. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:56.880 That's what I thought you were telling me. Is there 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.200 another bottle of water right down there? Body channel? We 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.800 can stuck out one. Yeah, we can ask somebody please 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.720 get service. Sean Sean again pulling back the curtain. Here 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.600 are you folks that are listening? Uh? Literally, Sean was 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.520 going on air and all of a sudden I had 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.080 a choking fit here. So, yes, thank you very much. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:14.560 I thought you were telling me that this was like 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.600 not sponsor approved, That's what I've always happening. I was like, 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.199 oh God, but no. But but like you said, we 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.760 were thinking cash, right, Is everybody thinking cash in this 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.960 room a little bit? Or are we just are we overselling? 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.200 Like the greatest example of chaos to me, like we 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.359 we all have you know, been friendly with Dane Brugler 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:34.359 for a number of years and know how plugged in 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.720 he is seeing Dane and his his mock talk about 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.280 that he's heard that like some chatter that the Texans 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:46.320 could go Garrett Wilson as high as three. Yeah, Like, wow, Lee, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.000 if if they did that, if they wanted to throw 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.919 the seas, I feel like that's gonna be stingy at 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.920 the seed that. Yeah, me too, feel like we're settling 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.639 into the top three four about now. That's that's the 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.960 problem that I had last night when I got when 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.679 I was talking to Houston and Jets and Giants and 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.560 Pep and all those pics are right there with each 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.160 other and they're trying to figure out what each other's 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:09.320 gonna do. And it's it's fascinating to listen to them. 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.840 Because the Texans, I think, if you're gonna try and 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.639 go get a wide receiver, you know, maybe you go 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.280 up to the Texans. They're hunting a wide receiver too. Yep, 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.640 they might not let you in. You know, Texans need everything. 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.480 The Texans are bad football team. Yeah, does this draft 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:29.120 flack studs? Yes, the funny I mean the answer is yes. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.400 But also guys are gonna make the Pro Bowl out 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.560 of this draft and all the fames. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:36.560 I mean, I mean when you look at it now 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:38.960 as the evaluation now, but I mean you could have 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.840 said some people would have argued last year Micah Parsons 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.160 wasn't a stud like there would have been people last 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:45.359 or to try to claim that, and then he went 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.600 out there and he was, you know, arguably a top 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.920 three defensive player in the NFL last year. But when 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.520 we're talking all these offensive linemen and receivers and I 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.080 want to get this from you guys later. Are you 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.199 giving me a Justin Jefferson in this class. Are you 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.800 giving me a Tyrant Smith? Are you giving me Zach Martin? 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.120 Or what are we talking about in terms of ceiling 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.520 for some of these positions that are really really deep 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.560 that the Cowboys maybe taking advantage of. So we'll get 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.040 into all of that. Thank you for the Dallas Cowboys 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.520 dot Com crew. That was our first segment and we're 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:26.560 about to have this for the next five hours. Yes, 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.280 it does, announcer man Sean Sharife Cowboys insider Bobby belt 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.760 our lead Scott Brian brought us David Hellman and Kyle 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.280 Yeoman's from Dallas Cowboys dot Com from Forward Center at 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.400 the Star. Let's go around the rest of the NFL 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.280 and let's let's just go to the very top on 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.200 what's being said, because all of a sudden, Aidan Hutchinson 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.240 has been taken out of the number one spot by 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.200 all the casinos. Who a lot of times they really 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.960 know what Nobody appreciates gambling odds more than you. Well, 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.000 my co host, I want to find you listen that 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:02.800 every morning. But you know, a lot of times they 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.880 tell us the truth on what's happening. Yeah, more often 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.760 than not. I would say, like I've followed Vegas on 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.560 everything in my opinion, like, yeah, I think that. To me, 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.280 this is what trimp Balky, the general manager with Jacksonville, 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.399 has really got one foot in the parking lot. And 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.800 I'm saying that in a way of you know, the 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:24.200 the rise of Walker defensive end from Georgia has been 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.280 amazing to me and me he was in the second 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.560 round in December on a lot of models, and that's 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.359 what I'm saying it. With Dallas at twenty four. The 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.080 next now he's at the middle of the board and 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.960 now he's one of the top two players. And you 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:36.800 but you talk to people and it's like, no, no, 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.679 no Ah, along we had this guy. You you media 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.679 scouts were laid on this one, and I'm like, oh, okay, 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.600 you know. And that's the thing I think that when 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.120 you talk about, like I say, a trip Balky in Jacksonville, 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.439 and if you know you're gonna get fired, take the 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.280 guy you want to take. You know, convince everybody that 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.280 you're right, because if you're wrong, if he turns out 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.199 to be a bust or he turns out to be 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.879 just an okay player, then you're gonna be in a 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.360 situation where they're gonna let you go and it's gonna 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.800 be somebody else's problem. Who is the best player on 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.000 everybody's board, Kyle, who's your best player in this whole thing? 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.800 I've got kvon Thibadeau as still number one. I didn't 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.719 necessarily give in to the off the field, the ego, 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.679 that kind of thing. I think when I look at 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.440 the tape and I see and it kind of goes 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:21.560 back to learning from Brian brought us across the table 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.680 from me, I see a star at the NFL level, 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.640 and I say the same thing with Aidan Hutchinson. He's 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.040 closely in that second spot. And then I've got Treyvon 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.040 Walker right there as well as three of the top 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.400 five players on my board are go to edge rushers 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.400 at the top. And with a premium position like that, 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.639 I don't think you could necessarily pass up on it. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.280 But Brian brings up a great point. You don't want 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:48.480 to rely on other people's opinions to value or two. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.960 I would rather be runs your decision in your future. Yeah, 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.200 go get your guy. If their guy is Treyvon Walker 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:56.800 as the Jacksonville Jaguars, then make the pick. Go go 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.280 get it done. It's just it provides a little bit 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:00.920 more of that chaos we've been talking. Yeah, you do 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.200 you Doug Peterson clearly. I mean Doug wants the offensive 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.480 tackle we Kuangwu. I mean that's what he wants. He's 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.080 got a quarterback he's got to try and protect, you know, 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.480 his job depending on how that kid plays. Yeah, so 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.200 you know he's thinking about, well, I need I need 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.800 blockers here, you know, And the scouts are like scouts 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:21.600 will always side on Safe. It happened here in Dallas. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.320 You know if you look at it the corners last year, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.960 you know, with Sir Tan and you talked to the 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:31.040 scout and they'll say, answer, Tan, Steady Safe played a 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.560 lot of game coaches, give me horn, give me, give 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.480 me the guy who's over, give me the guy who 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.120 plays like his hairs on fire, turnovers, you know all 0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:41.399 that stuff. So yeah, I mean you could see in 0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:44.919 Jacksonville with the scouts are talking about Hudgets Hutchison, and 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.080 then everybody else is talking about somebody else. Who's the 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.760 best player, Dane. Oh sorry, Dave. I wish I was. 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:55.159 I wish I had that many scouting reports. It's I 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.120 thought I was about to sound super smart, but Kyle 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.960 took it right out of my mouth. Honestly, if I, well, okay, 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.480 if if I in a vacuum had the number one pick, 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.000 I would take Thibodeau. I think people are overthinking this thing. 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:07.960 I think he's a freak. I have not heard all 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.439 this stupid whispering about this dude's personality or whatever his 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.280 issue is. I have not heard anything convincing as to 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:17.280 why he should fall further than certainly the top three. 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.880 What are the knocks that literally, like basically people are 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.240 just vaguely like, oh, he's sort of a jerk, like 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:24.160 he's kind of a diva. I'm like, so what, he's 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.440 a pro football player when we see as an ego. 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:29.080 When we were at the combine, Dane put it beautifully. 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.120 He said, whenever you get Dave interviews, Dane, it was 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.440 this time. Dane put it as when you have these 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.719 interviews with with Cabon Thibodeau, you have to pull up 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.679 one seat for Tibadeau, then you got to pull up 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.040 another one for his ego. That That was the way 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.520 he put it blatantly. Isn't that what you want from 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.560 a franchise changing grade? See, that's the thing you people. 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:49.240 I mean, I think a lot of people feel like 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:51.600 Sauce is the same energy. So you see what he 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.280 rolled up to the draft. It's not just it's not no, 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.560 I didn't he called himself to chosen one today. It's 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.520 it's it's not just the ego. I don't think I 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:01.560 think that will of view him as he's a little 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:06.360 bit emotionally explosive, then that he's a culture question there 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.959 on that front, and then I don't want to get 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.720 too deep into what it. But I mean there's always 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.119 there's been chattered about some of his circle, which and 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.080 some of the people he keeps around. And I'm not 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.040 taking a shot at you, but that's my point is 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.119 like all all you can really get with this guy's 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.040 like vague platitudes of why oh well, there are some 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:24.720 kind of like tell me something, I'll text you it. 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.480 I don't say it to no microphone, but I'll text you. 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.160 I'll say this though, there might be if you can 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.000 give me something that's legitimately concerning, I'm listening. But otherwise 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.560 he's a stud. I agree on the Thibodeau part of it, though, 0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.560 but I will say three of you have Tibodeau, yes, 0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.000 but I have Gardeners my number two. If you just 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:44.320 if you wanted my top five, I said, Thibadeau, Gardner, Cross, Hutchinson, 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:46.800 those are my top five. I will say this if 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.120 I if I was in Jacksonville right now, if I 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:50.920 if I was making the call for them, I would 0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.320 draft whichever tackle you like that. I don't care, but 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:58.160 euan Neil, I would draft them because they just signed 0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:00.200 Cam Robinson. I don't care if they got Brandon Sure 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.520 if too. Give Trevor Lawrence the best offensive line in 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:04.159 football and see what he can do. That's what I 0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.520 would do. John Ogden played guard before he played tackle. 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.240 And you know that, John, because you lived in that 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.680 part of the world. Yeah, you know. So don't tell 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.960 me these guys can't. You can't go get the best 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.919 guy and play him somewhere else and then move him 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.960 to where you have to move him. But I think 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.240 the thing with Thibodeau, and this is what's going to happen, 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.680 because next year, when we're doing this all together, it's 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.840 going to be like we're gonna be talking about a 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.679 bunch of Thibodeaus. They care about their ego and they 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.080 care about their These players are going to start getting 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.800 paid or to play football in college. Yeah, it's going 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.560 to be about brands. It's going to be about flash, 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.240 it's going to be about product placement and all that stuff. 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:43.560 Are we going to say, oh, well this guy next year, 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.520 Oh he really doesn't like football. No, we're saying that 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.080 because maybe this guy might be a little bit of 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.520 a jerk. And yeah, you're right, Bobby. Maybe there's people 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.880 that you know at Oregon will tell you though, well, 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.320 hey man, this guy is kind of like he doesn't 0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.159 want to play all the time. He doesn't want to 0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:00.800 He's a little bit like, hey, i'd shut it down 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.680 or something like that. I guarantee you're about to say 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:05.639 something like that. Yeah, I mean that was one of 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.000 the things you're about. Two three times this year had 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:10.439 told people at Oregon, I'm opting out after something had 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.240 gone wrong. Yeah, he got hurt. He told them he 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.320 was opting out. They lost to Stanford. He told him 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.000 he was opting out. Like there's a little bit of 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.080 a emotional volatiler stations about our guy Derek Stingley, just 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.399 for whatever that's worth. Yeah, there were some of that 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.880 with Mica too, not to that severity, but that when 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.040 we see guys go up and mosey up to the 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.560 podium in mink coats or cut off shirts or they're 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.880 bedazzled or whatever. The kids are saying. Yeah, I could 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.399 say that that's ego. I could say that that's why 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.640 it's got to run deeper. Yeah, it's got to run. 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:44.320 Do you think do you think it's legit concerns on Tipodeaux. 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.080 I think there's some things around him. Like I said, 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.280 I don't know so much that there are things about him, 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.040 his ego, everything else like that. Again, the emotional volatility, 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.280 wondering how does that fit into a locker room? How 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.359 coachable is he? That's another thing about the ego there 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.399 is that it's not just an ego like outside, but 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.080 it's also an go in terms of are you gonna 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:02.600 be able to be coached? Are we gonna be able 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:04.040 to like work on some of these things with you? 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.320 Because I know that the general consensus from people I 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.119 talked around the NFL is that Thibodeau is not a 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.639 finished product, that there's still a lot raw about him 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.520 that they that will need to be coached out of him. 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.760 And so if that's difficult, it's gonna be tough. All right, 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.439 Let's move off of him and go to some of 0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.280 the other guys that you absolutely love. Kyle, who are 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.240 you in love with? At the top of this board, 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.919 I mean Ikey Aquanu, NC State offensive tackle. He's my 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:31.719 top offensive tackle. I mean, he's just a mean streak. 0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.639 He was the biggest bully in college football. Is one 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.840 of the things that I put on my notes about him. 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.000 I think he's a plugin play instant decade of success 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.440 at the tackle spot. Other guys. We mentioned Sauce Garden 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.040 around at Cincinnati cornerback. I know for a fact that 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.960 he is the cowboys top corner now, not very much 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.719 so in their realm, and nor will he fall, at 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.200 least not anticipated to fall past that five six seven 0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:57.879 spot to where they would even have a chance to 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.480 go up and get him. Other names up there, Kyle 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.639 Hamilton's safety out of Notre Dame flies around the field 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.520 sideline to sideline sort of guy. And then Derek Stingley 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.200 Junior from LSU, along with the edge rushers that I 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.240 mentioned earlier. That's almost my entire top five or top ten. 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.320 Who do you love, Dave? I think, well, I think 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.600 that's going back to what we were talking about the beginning. 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.359 It feels like there's like eight to ten names that 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.400 everybody agrees are kind of a cut above the rest, right, 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:27.480 and then like once you get past, I'll just throw 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.480 Drake London out there as like the tenth or eleventh guy. 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.600 That's when all hell breaks loose. So like I think 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.199 Kyle set it up perfectly. I already said it, so 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.480 I'll be brief, but like I freaking love Jamison Williams. 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.400 I love the guy. I mean, and he's not just fast, 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.680 Like we're not talking about who was the kid that 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.880 Oakland drafted Darius Heyward Bay, We're ain't talking about that. 0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.000 Like he can run routes, he can go inside outside, 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.880 like he can be physical. He's not like the biggest 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.560 receiver in the world, but he can do whatever you 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.880 need him to on top of being fast as hell. 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:02.360 Does the injury worre you know, an Acs' twenty two 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.840 to throw it out there as the same thing. We're 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.880 living in a world where Cam Akers can tear his 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.840 achilles at minicamp and be ready for the playoffs, Like, 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.400 absolutely not. I'm not worried about it brought us. Who 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.240 else is on the top of your board Devin Lloyd, 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.480 linebacker from Utah. And I'm thinking about this as a 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:19.840 sixty three, two hundred and thirty seven pounds And you 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:23.000 talk to scouts, Skis and Gallis around the league, They'll 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:24.920 tell you this might be the closest thing to Michael 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.400 Parsons in this draft because you talk about a guy 0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:29.120 that can finish, you talk about a guy and he 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.840 might play past defense better than Michael Parsons did. So 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.520 I kind of feel like, though that whoever drafts Devin 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.720 Lloyd keep an eye on New England at twenty one. 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:40.840 That would be one of those ones where I would go, 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.680 they understand the player, so I and I mean Kyle's 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.360 reference from there. But I think there's just been a 0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.000 stunning lack of discussion in the last couple of months 0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:51.760 about Kyle Hamilton. Yep, Kyle Hamilton to be it. And 0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:53.560 I know people didn't like, Oh, he ran a four 0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.320 seven at Pro Day, and well, I think that's your 0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.080 aunts and there were some bad hap Well he ran 0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:58.719 a four or five nine, and the reason he ran 0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:00.960 a four seven was bad habits. He went home, apparently 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.640 and just diddled too much fun in Atlanta. I don't 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.360 even know this funny just didn't work. He didn't he 0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.959 didn't go to work. And so that's that's a concerning thing. 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.880 You don't love hear him. But to me, I think 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.720 just when I watched his tape, you watch him against 0:30:11.720 --> 0:30:13.480 Florida State, you watch some of the stuff he does, 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.880 it's he's so instinctual. I think against the run, I 0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.560 think that even though there are questions about the way 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.600 he can cover, I think that he's he's really good 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.120 at seeing things a step ahead of everybody else, even 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.880 in coverage at times. And so I love Kyle Hamilton. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.040 That's a guy that I would absolutely feel fine if 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.520 I was the Cowboys, if they were up there picking 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.480 him the top five, That's who I'd want would be 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:36.160 Kyle Hamilton. How much has positional value impacted y'all's view 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.240 and scouting on all of this? We just talked about 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.320 a linebacker, which there was a lot of angry people 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.080 last year over Michael Parsons the Cowboys. I don't even 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.880 think knew he could rush the pastor like that dan Quinn. 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.640 Dan Quinn got that out of him, for sure. Yeah, 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.520 but the people there's people in the organization and a 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.400 George Edwards, the linebackers coach, I asked him that question. 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:57.680 He's like, he goes, no, we knew this guy had 0:30:57.720 --> 0:30:59.960 that ability. Yeah, And I'm like, man, he didn't even 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.520 play last year, right, how did you know that? But 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.080 you're talking about linebacker? Bobby said, he's stunned at the 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.760 you know, the lack of talk about Hamilton. He's a safety, 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.120 right see all the and I think Hamilton's a great 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.880 example though, And you're you're absolutely right, and that was 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.920 not to like, like, my first immediate question is can 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.600 Hamiltons cover? Yeah, I think he can. I think you 0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.960 can't see I think I think because if there's a question, 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.560 then you know, I think Dax's Hill, the Michigan safety, 0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.280 can cover better. How about that? Because then if he can't, 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.040 if that, if he's not a plus there, then you know, 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.520 I think Jamal Adams and let's let's move along. See. 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.200 I think j Hamilton is a great example. I think 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:39.320 Hamilton is like where football is going because, like I 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.640 just I kind of feel like that Hamilton was when 0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.360 I was starting to draft in the early nineties, that 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:48.280 big bang yeah, like the side look at all the 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.480 stuf Taylor maze usc way back in the day. I mean, 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.720 we're not We're not talking about a guy and I 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.479 think he can do some of this, But we're not 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.880 talking about Ed Reid, who's gonna be like off the 0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:00.880 screen on tape. You remember playing listen to me, you 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:07.720 repeat your stories a lot. We're not talking about while 0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.480 we're talking. We're talking and this is gonna sound silly 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.080 because he was a seventh round pick, but we're talking 0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.200 about jay Ron Curse. Like we're talking about a guy 0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.640 who can do some cover. He can play in the slot. 0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.400 These tight ends are getting bigger and more athletic and 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:20.880 getting more of a part of the passing game. You 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.800 can go down in the box and take that guy away, 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:24.880 like that's what you use a Kyle ham Don't you 0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.280 look at don't you look like? We will told the 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.440 story with you guys after they picked Tony Pollard that 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:31.360 there was a specific run in the Senior Bowl where 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.400 they saw it, and they go like there is, yeah, 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.040 and like they can see some of those things and 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:36.720 there are moments where you see it. To me, it's 0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:38.560 like when you talk about Hamilton's like, yeah, is it 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.320 always consistent coverage? No? You know, can he play center 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.560 field like Ed Reid? No? But the play I go 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.360 back to is he's on the opposite hash against Florida State. 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.520 They're rolling out and he just comes out of nowhere 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.320 to the opposite sideline and just jumps in front of 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.480 the receiver. That was. That's as good as any free safety. 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.719 You see him play a lot of slot. You do 0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.240 see him play a lot of the spot, But I 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:00.880 don't know if you want to put him in the 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.680 slot against NFL guys, put him in the slot against 0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.480 who though, like put him in the slot against the 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.360 tiny little slot. That's what I'm saying again, Okay, Kelsey, 0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:13.040 but we say what we've seen with these slot players 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.760 over the you know, over the years now here, I mean, 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.280 how effective the slot players. I'm not trying to kill 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.000 the kid. I'm just saying, though, there's things you see 0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:23.920 him do at Notre Dame when he's playing Virginia in 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.840 Virginia Tech and people like that. You're like, oh, that's 0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.920 pretty damn impressive. You know, he moves well for a 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.600 six four guy. He really really, really really does. He's 0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.880 a physical player. He's a great tackler, I think. But 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.080 you know, it's funny you say that about Curse. We 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.960 were all like, oh, here's another one of those cowboys signings. 0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.280 You know, it's a safety Clinton Dicks, Oh you know, 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.880 all that stuff like that. You know, That's what I'm saying. 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.000 I mean, we were we weren't given curse. Dan Quinn. 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.760 If you tell me you're gonna take if you're gonna 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.400 take this Notre Dame safety and you're gonna and you're 0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.080 gonna play them, I'm saying, yaya. Because of dan Quinn, 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.600 anybody else might Nolan, I might be going, WHOA would 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.320 you just do? But there are Covin after Kelvin, Joseph 0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.919 and Nasham, right, I think you know what? I think 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.920 they knew about the plan. No, no, no, I no, no, 0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:16.600 I'm joking half what I'm saying though, as far as 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.160 how about this they were thinking about at this time 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.360 last year, drafted a cornerback? I mentioned sir Tann and 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.000 Horn even though they had all three of these starters. 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.080 And now we're not really talking about drafting a corner here, 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.359 are we, because everybody's like, whoa. Dan Quinn made these 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.799 guys play a lot better than they are. Tray Bon 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.719 Digg's taking a step and having eleven interception certainly helped 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.319 that conversation. Yeah, dan Quinn and those guys putting them 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.400 in position to make plays. I just think to go 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.920 back to the original question, what scares me about Burks? 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.120 They are like the money. I love Burks more than 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.080 anybody else does, too, Yeah, because I got to make 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.200 him do what you need to do. They are like 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.239 these positions where you only need to be good at 0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:57.360 one thing to be good like edge rusher, quarterback obviously cornerback. 0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.480 You're like go out to the boundary and just take 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.640 care of that guy. If you're not one of those 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.279 safety linebacker, you got to be able to do a 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.640 bunch of stuff. And that's what scared us about Mica 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:10.400 is like, is he just gonna tackle people that's not valuable? 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.160 But that's not all he does, and I feel the 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.200 same way about him. I'm not sure if everyone's aware, 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.879 but a lot of Cowboy fans are a little bit 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.839 irritated over this offseason and people think Stephen Jones has 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.360 turned into the number one sports villain in town. And 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:28.759 the question has become have they put too much pressure 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.600 on the guy running this show that starts tonight? We'll 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:35.080 answer that question next. Is there too much pressure on 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.960 Will McClay. This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft 0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:41.000 on one O five Through the Fan and Dallas Cowboys 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:49.719 dot Com. What up, Dallas Cowboys dot Com crew, we 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.799 are still here. Sean Shariffe, Kyle Yeoman's, Dave helm and 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.840 Brian brought us some Bobby Belt. I want to ask 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:59.680 you guys about opinions changing. Yeah, should they change? When 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.000 do they change? Because we're talking about Thibadeau. He was 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.160 the number one pick and now he's twelve. We're talking 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.480 about Walker. He was in the second round and now 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.759 he's the number one pick. So, Brian, you've lived this, Yeah, 0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.960 when does it change? What changes and influences you in 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.040 terms of and then you say I should have just 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.160 stuck with that original fie. No, No, this is where 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.680 And I appreciate Kyle bringing this up though, because I 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.800 think that if you you know, tonight, people were asking 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.840 me because I had I post my board and I 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.719 don't know how to do the Google thing all that 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.120 you can go on my Twitter and you know, I 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.120 don't know how to do all that crap you can 0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.399 ask us. But but well I'll help, You'll just sound 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.680 to do it. But but but see he's pitching baseball 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.319 right now in Houston talking. But see that That's where 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.040 I'm at right now, because people are like, well, you 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.520 didn't have didn't have Johnson here, you didn't have this guy. 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.240 You didn't have this guy. And I said, that's my board. 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.640 I'm proud of my work, you know. I mean, I 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.920 think that's where you have to be right now. Now. 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:56.799 See we're doing it as individuals them. There's a lot 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.920 of things, you know, there's a lot of that what 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.560 we think that group group think, and that's what you 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.720 get a team like the Rams. The Rams aren't interested 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.439 in group think anymore. When I was a scout back 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.759 in the day, we were interested in group think. Oh, 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.279 let's all get together and put our name on this 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.839 and put them up on the board. You know. That's 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.200 that's what we're That's what we did in the nineties, 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.600 you know, And I think today we're kind of been 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.080 a little bit more. But there's teams like say, Will McClay. 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.360 He's got a tough job where he's got to manage 0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.520 the coaches, the scouts, and the Joneses. There's nobody else 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.160 in the league that has to do what he does. 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.000 And I know we're going to talk about that in 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.520 the next segment, but I think that I think if 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.080 you're gonna do this, you know, and you don't have 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.839 to like just follow along the group. Yeah, if you've 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.359 got four or five, six, eight nine guys, people will 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.279 remind you if you suck at this, you do it 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.680 long enough, they'll remind you of all your busts a lot. 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.799 Your owner will say it in a press conference prior 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.359 to the draft. Sure, Dave, what changes for you having 0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.080 done this for a number of years now, and at 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.040 what time when you're like, this should be the cutoff point. 0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.919 I'm sticking with. I'm sticking with what I what I saw, 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.560 Oh I heard, well, so see that this is the 0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.000 this is they're tweeting about this, that the late influence 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.040 is getting in your head. This is the debate that 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.800 I have all the time with guys like Brian and 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.120 and other people that do this. Is like, I try 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.000 to remove my own opinion from it because, like you know, 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.080 Brian's Brian stakes his reputation on this, where he's like, 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.640 this is what I think, whereas I'm more along, I'm 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.440 more of the opinion of like what I think does 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.919 not matter. It doesn't. I don't care it does matter. 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.120 It does. It doesn't though, because they're gonna sit up 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.799 there and make their pick, and they've never once in 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.600 a decade asked me what I thought. I'm waiting. I'm 0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.640 waiting for that day. But it allows us to judge 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.160 you not fine. I know they may have been twenty twenty. 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.400 You wanted Ceedee Lamb as much as anybody I think 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.480 everyone in the world wanted. They may have asked you 0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.400 that yet, but she didn't get a chance to you 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:52.000 know what I'm talking about it a story here or 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.520 a leaked rumor there. What's so, it's funny the way 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.760 the ebbs and flows of this thing work, man, Because 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.359 I did say that, like late influence can can be 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.000 a bummer sometimes. But also these last three days before 0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.439 the draft, that's when people start saying the juicy stuff too. 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.719 Like again, I mean, yeah, Tyler Smith is not um 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.640 that ain't bs like that is something that's a name too, 0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:18.000 at least no, a possible cowboy, yes, And nobody was 0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.560 on that until earlier this week, or at least not 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.280 I've seen his name actually on Twitter. People were asking 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.960 me because people were mocking that, you know, and like 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.440 mel Kiper and those guys mocking that the mel Kipers 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.480 of the world don't do stuff on a whim. Not 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.160 a week before in the draft, no, not in a word, 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.000 Who was it? Josh Norris shout out he got seventeen 0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.799 picks right last year. You think that's blind luck or 0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.040 do you think it's having a good network of contact. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.399 I will say I brought up Tyler Smith based off 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.360 of stuff that I was hearing in Indie because I 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.120 did hear something in Indie and you can go back 0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:51.719 and listen to it on the on the Draft show. 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.719 We're sitting there in the radio row and there was 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.960 a moment when I brought up Tyler Smith the Dane, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.239 and that's when Dane initially was like, man, I just 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:00.200 don't I don't know, like and that's where we kind 0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.640 of had our conversation, talked about him as a second 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.440 round prospect, but at twenty four, at that point we 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.840 felt like it was too rich. I still feel that 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.960 way to a certain extent for me, But it goes 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.120 back to what Brian was saying in our opening segment. 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.400 Just because you have him as a second round grade 0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:18.520 at thirty thirty five, whatever, doesn't mean you can't take 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.640 him at twenty four. Because if you can't, if you 0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:22.799 don't take him at twenty four, you're not gonna see 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.920 him last until fifty six. And also, to the point 0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.879 we made earlier, Brian's forty five could be there twenty two, 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.719 you know, I mean, there's no way to know. All right, 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.640 Thank you to Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 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Let's go gamble, and we 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.080 know that Steven maybe a little bit more in control, 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:29.239 but compensation from Maury Cooper, Leo Collins rolling out the door, 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.719 bringing in some no names, the Randy Gregory debacle, the 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.120 two for ones that are supposed to be better than Randy. 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:40.640 According to Jerry the other day, Bobby Belt, where are we? 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:46.960 Where are we, mister Cowboys insider with this Cowboys offseason? 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.880 And is the question fair that this team is putting 0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.160 way too much pressure on Will McClay to continue to 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.719 hit home run draft picks I mean, does will feel 0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:59.440 that way. I don't know. Do they feel that way? 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.320 I don't know, But just from my perspective when I 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:02.719 look at it's like, that's a lot you're putting on 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.000 them consistently every year of like we'll go bargain bin 0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.600 shop and maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't, but 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:09.440 you know that we can trust that our scout and 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.040 stuff do that. It's a it's a great compliment to them, 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:13.960 and it's it's a vote of confidence in them. And 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:15.600 I'm sure that's great, but it is a lot of 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.040 pressure to go, man, especially in a draft like this 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:19.360 where you don't feel like there's going to be a 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.680 first round necessarily right where you're picking, and then you 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:22.960 have to weigh like, well, how much do you want 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.759 to sacrifice? Some want to give up? When I when 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.520 I've been talking about some of these calls about do 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.040 they give up a second? Do they give up a third? 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:30.640 You know, I've heard chatter about that that they could 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.359 go up. Somebody around the league who's very connected had 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.239 reached out to me today it was like, I don't 0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.400 see really anybody giving up a second or a third 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.520 unless they are going up for elite because in this 0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.759 draft like, that's where everybody wants their picks right now, second, third, fourth, fifth. 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.359 They don't want to they don't want to move around 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.399 the first. That's why nobody's trying to go up right now. 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.320 And so I think it's gonna be really tough for 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.560 the fan base to, you know, feel great about where 0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:55.200 things are after this weekend, just because there's no studs 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.520 at the top. No matter what they do, there's going 0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:58.960 to be a section of the fan base that's going 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.080 to be upset with it, and it's gonna complain about 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:02.879 it because well, you didn't get a lineman or oh 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:04.560 you you trade it up to get this, and you 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.719 sacrifice this and we have too many holes. People are 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.400 going to be upset regardless. But yeah, there they're in 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.680 a very frustrated state, the most fresh night I can 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.600 recall them being in several years. The fan base, you 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.600 guys live in this building. Do you think that Will 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.960 McClay can keep going in for raises every off season 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.799 based upon this formula? I mean, since twenty ten, no 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:27.880 team in the NFL has had more all Pro draft 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.560 picks in the entire league than the Dallas Cowboys. The 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.560 scary part about that is that since twenty ten, no 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.160 team in the NFL has had more all pro draft picks, 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.319 because at some point your luck runs out, right. I 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:42.600 mean a lot of this is, yes, it's preparation, it's homework, 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.640 it's being in the right spot at the right time 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.440 in terms of a draft pick, but a lot of 0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:48.960 it is the players working out to your favor as well. 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.239 And last year you felt like Micah Parsons fell in 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.719 your lap. That wasn't necessarily Hey, we're going into this 0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:58.399 drafting Micah Parsons. They made the adjustment, they made the pick, 0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.840 and ultimately he ends up being the defensive rookie of 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.799 the year. That's not always going to happen. So, going 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.120 back to what Bobby was saying a moment ago, if 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.200 you're not adding that talent, you're not adding that supplemental 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:12.640 free agency help. At some point along the way, that 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.879 pressure ultimately is going to force a crack. I don't 0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.280 want it to happen, of course, being in this building 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.759 and working with the fantastic crew across the way, and 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.000 they do a great job of drafting, don't get me wrong, 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.279 But it's just the law of averages. At some point 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.200 it will even out. You just don't want it to 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.000 be sooner rather than later. That's that last part. Just 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.240 cut that out and play it again, because that's Will. 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.200 I think the world of Will's I say it every 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.319 every year. I beat it into the ground. He's one 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.439 of my favorite people in this organization. As a guy, 0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:44.000 I think he's awesome at his job. The track record 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.280 speaks for itself. He's been running the draft since fourteen. 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.520 I mean put it up against anybody in the league. 0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.279 Firmly believe that he's had some stinkers too. He's got 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:56.760 to wear taco He does he? Stephen did? He? Depends 0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.440 on who you asked earlier in the week. Hey, they 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.480 all have a hand in it. And so if even 0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.200 somebody with Will mcclay's track record can have that on 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.759 his resume. Twenty nineteen class, I know they didn't have 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.080 a first round pick, but other than Tony Pollard doesn't 0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.960 look wonderful. So it is possible for even somebody as 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.680 great as they are at this to screw this up. 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.719 And when you're not bringing talent into your roster any 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:23.040 other way, short answer, Sean, Yes, they are putting way 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.360 too much pressure on their scouting. Most Pro Bowl players 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:30.480 who said, since two thy since twenty ten coaching coaching. 0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.240 Think about that, Yeah, bringing in guys, bringing in talent. 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.920 Ten years of Jason Garrett, ten years of trying to 0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.759 figure out Scott Lenahan and whoever else. You know, Give 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.280 me ten years of Dan Quinn using these players, you know, gimme, 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.480 gimme guys that, like I say, we learned a lot 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.120 about this. We were begging for this defense to be 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:56.080 middle of the road. Yeah, top five scoring defense and 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:59.160 all that stuff. They didn't. I mean, they added guys, 0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:01.800 they added they but they added you know, they added 0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.680 the defensive but basically the defensive player of the year. 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.960 But think about that, Think about all those picks and 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:11.960 how frustrated you might be if you're if you're a 0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.360 player personnel guy, and you're like, damn, I'm giving them players. 0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.040 Why are we not having success? Yeah? You know, and 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:20.799 it's you know, and I'm and will and him not 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:23.000 going to point the finger at the coaches, but I will, 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.880 I'll point the finger at those guys and say, listen, 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.439 you wasted a lot of guys here. Garrett's on Twitter, 0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.719 and I'll be careful, I don't care, you know, but 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:33.759 you know he has to look at that he got 0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:36.399 let go. You know, they gave him ten years here 0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.320 with a damn good roster, you know, and that you 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.760 got to look at that, and we loved dan Quinn. 0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:45.160 Now right, he loved dan Quinn because he's taken players 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.080 and putting them in positions to make plays. I'll tell 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:52.279 you another thing about this, Oh boy, I love it 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.640 when he get nervous. No, what are you nervous about 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:58.759 when you have job security? Yeah, we've talked about this 0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:00.880 on the Draft show. You're not going inhere. None of 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.279 these guys are going anywhere. Will McClay is very happy 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.280 about being here. They're comfortable with Will McClay. Will mcclay's 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.480 figured out how to marry the coaches with the Joneses 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.680 with the scouts. Hard thing to do. They're he's not 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.960 Will's not going. He's had opportunities, but you know, he's 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.520 got family. But really, if you know, Jason Light at 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.640 Tampa several years ago, but three years ago, two years ago, 0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:23.720 his butt was on the line. He gets Tom Brady 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.640 in his lap, he's gonna get fired. My man, let's 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.920 snead out there f them picks. He's talking to me 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.879 like Cruden's gonna come here and blow me out. Bro. 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.360 You got you know, you got the wonder boy coach 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.040 you know who doesn't really care about the draft. That's 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:43.399 what I'm saying. Sometimes it's about those coaches. Sometimes it's 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.239 about the people you bring in. You know, when you 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:49.520 don't have security, you will do whatever you have to 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.440 do to build your roster. That's somebody else's problem, Bro, 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:55.360 I traded away all the first round picks for the 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.480 next two years. Yeah, that's somebody else's deal. It doesn't 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:00.759 happen here. A lot of security here. I've said that 0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.560 a few times this year is and like that. They 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:06.239 will never they would never admit this publicly. But I 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.600 just wonder, are we allowed to talk like this in 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.879 this building. I haven't done this before. Oh no, they're 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.400 not afraid. We're not. They're not afraid. They'll let you 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.680 go as you're fair. We might be, we might be 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.360 team employees, but hey, they let us say it and be. 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.080 Maybe we're not everybody's favorite employee because of it, but 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.759 that's okay. I got rid of me. Um No, I 0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.600 just behind closed doors. Like you hear it from the 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.160 fan base all the time. They're not better on paper 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.840 than they were last year, they are not. Dalton Schultz 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.520 said that, yeah, there we go exactly, and one of 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.520 the guys they brought back. I just wonder if behind 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.480 closed doors they're like, that's okay. This like like we're 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.640 good enough to win the East. We might not be 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:43.799 a contender, but that's okay. We'll be in better cap 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:47.279 shape next year. We'll have more money. And again this 0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:50.280 is in their meetings, they're saying, we're gonna kill this draft. 0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:53.440 We're just we're gonna add three badasses. We'll win the East. 0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.440 Maybe we you know, we we we're not gonna take 0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.440 another step this year, but we can take steps in 0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.920 twenty three and twenty four. And they can't say that 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.560 out loud because it would piss off their fans. But 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.600 it's a very plausible idea to me that they feel 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.279 that way well. And McCarthy even said it to lead 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:09.919 off the press conference the other day where he said, 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.560 I think what you guys perceive our needs are and 0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:14.920 what we think our needs are is going to be different. 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.440 And I think that when you look at I think 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.440 they think they're I think no, I think they have 0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.799 I think they believe they've got a lot of the 0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:24.200 talent in place that they need. Yes, they need a 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:27.040 starting an offensive linemen right now. They've talked very openly 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.840 about that. They probably need another receiver, they need some 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.680 of these things. I think what they feel like, and 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.840 part of this process has been about I think I 0:49:33.840 --> 0:49:35.920 think what they feel like they're missing in a lot 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.160 of ways isn't always the talent. I think they're worried 0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.640 about the intangibles and the toughness and the leadership trade 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:43.720 and I think they that's been part of this process. 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.279 I think for them. I think that's why you've heard 0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.120 some of the ties that they love how tough Trerever 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:50.120 Penning is. They love the chip on his shoulder. I 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:52.520 think I think that's part of this evaluation more so 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.000 than maybe in years past. They're looking for toughness, they're 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.879 looking for guys who have the intangibles, and they're also 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.160 looking down the road as well, because you and Pinning 0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:04.799 being an example, Tyler Smith offensive tackle from Tulsa being 0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.799 an example. Right now this day and age, at this 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:10.680 point in the time, offensive tackle isn't the number one 0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.600 need for the Cowboys, But in two years it might be. 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.000 Because in three years it might be, they might be 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:19.320 in eight games, and you're exactly right. The tyrant Smith 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.600 thing continues to hover over every season, and I think 0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.120 they're tired of that to a certain extent. So if 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:27.560 even if they do take a tackle this year, which 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.200 I think Bobby's spot on with Pinning, and then of 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:32.640 course you've heard the rumors with Smith, if they take 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:36.000 a tackle, that's looking at maybe an interior fixed short term, 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.520 and then you look long term into it being a 0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.400 potential tackle replacement moving into the future. They're trying to 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.080 think about it that way. I'm not saying it's the 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:46.439 right pick, or at least I'm not saying I would 0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:49.359 make that pick, but they've got different thought processes going 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.399 on across the building than we even do in this room. 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.120 We're just not used to as a fan base a 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:59.239 step backwards off season. It's always it's always usually treading water. 0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.239 If we're being on Yeah, well maybe Jerry sells it 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:04.440 a little bit more than that, but this feels like 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:08.080 a legitimate step back off season. And I think, you know, 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.680 people are angry that we're in the NFC East, whereas 0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.520 usually it's celebrated because it's like, oh, that allows them 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:16.719 to get away with eleven and six, even though it 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.040 could be a first round exit. That's what I'm saying is, 0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:21.879 you know, just looking at it, it's like, we can 0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.400 win the East with this roster. Yeah, absolutely they can 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.439 because these sucks. They felt like they were close last 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.600 year too, which is adding to the frustration of the 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.880 step back this year too, because you felt like you 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.359 were there, you were on the doorstep. Now, of course 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:37.440 the way that it ended doesn't necessarily look like that 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.360 you had a long way to go, but from a 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:42.040 roster on paper standpoint, you felt like you had what 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:43.799 it took to take a sea I can out run. 0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.279 I think they felt like that way for a lot 0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.560 of the season. I think by the end of the season, 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.000 I think they felt like they had kind of gotten 0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:50.560 slapped in the face a little bit and like, oh, 0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.520 we're not quite where we thought we were. And I 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:54.960 think that's why they weren't wanted to do a full rebuild. 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:57.279 But I think they wanted to renovate. It's like fix 0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.360 up right parts of this That's a wonderful analogy. They're like, 0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:02.400 they're trying to renovate it on the fly. They're like, 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.120 let's shed some of these bad contracts, I mean, if 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:09.120 you take it back to Jalen that they got rid of, 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.600 like what three hefty contracts that they didn't want to 0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:14.279 have to deal with. Now, I don't think all of 0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:18.120 those decisions were I don't get why Lyle Collins doesn't 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:19.799 need to be on this team right now, Like that's 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.040 weird to me. And I go back to what Bobby was. 0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:24.839 I don't want I don't get Amari Cooper either, but 0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.239 that's beside the point they shed the salary. Maybe those 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:29.520 two things you're talking about though, when you're saying the 0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:33.839 front office just not happy with either guy, Yeah, we're 0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:37.120 a little bit hypocritical. Yeah, you know, we forget so 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.640 when the playoffs start, well, not when the playoffs start. 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.640 When the playoffs continue, we're all tweeting the same thing. 0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:47.560 Cowboys don't belong on the field with these guys. Cowboys 0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.680 will get smoked by Buffalo, Cowboys will get destroyed by 0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:53.720 this team or that team. And then when they show 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:57.000 us maybe in the off season, hey we aren't what 0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.239 we thought we were. Let's get rid of these guys. 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.799 These aren't twenty million dollar players. Then we get mad 0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:06.080 about it. So I'm a hypocrite with it. But we 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.800 didn't think that we were on that championship level in 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:12.360 the playoffs. We're going on and maybe Jerry and Stephen 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:14.680 were like, let's be really, maybe mid season you were. 0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:19.120 That's oh, I was mid season. The team we watched 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:22.160 in December and January just wasn't the one that I 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:25.399 thought it was. And that's that's Zeke getting injured. That's 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:29.439 the offensive line falling apart. That's Dak refuses to blame 0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.120 the calf injury, but something happened to him. He was 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.799 not the same. Yeah, people look at me sideways when 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.000 I say this, Like he was in the thick of 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:39.680 the MVP race. Was he was in October Kyler Murray 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.200 and him. He was in the thick of There was 0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.839 an entire podcast on the Athletic after the Falcons game 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.120 where it's like Dak Prescott is the MVP of the NFL. 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.760 Robert May's and Nate Tice were like, are we crazy 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.279 if we think Dak's the MVP? And that was a 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:55.279 national conversation, and he wasn't that guy the second half 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:56.920 of the season. Like I said, for whatever reason, I 0:53:56.920 --> 0:54:00.520 love the toughness point though from from Bobby because when 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.880 San Francisco walked down. Kyle Shannon was like talking smack 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:07.120 before the playoff game, saying, we know that they don't 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.120 want to handle our run game. And I was like, WHOA, 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.560 You're not supposed to be saying that, like making headlines. 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:16.439 And when Deebo Samuel and Trent Williams were walking down 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:21.759 that tunnel groundling Kodak black just blaring on it, I 0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:24.600 was like, ohh And then on that first drive we 0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:27.239 all said oh oh, and they got smacked in the 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.480 mouth in their own stadium. Yeah to I mean, to 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:33.120 a certain extent, that's what happened, and it happened. It 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:35.040 wasn't just San Francisco that was the culmination. But you 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:36.960 looked at throughout the year, Denver did it to him, 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.000 Kansas City did it to him. They consistently we're getting 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:40.960 out physical, and I think that's part of what they're 0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.239 trying to change. I do, I just I can't. I 0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:46.920 can't let go of the notion like on paper, No, 0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:48.160 like I do, I think they are as good as 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.040 Buffalo or Kansas City, of course not, but like Cincinnati, 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:53.880 that Tampa team that ranged up by the end of 0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:55.799 the year, the ram the one had us even with 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:57.840 the Rams throughout the year. It's like a fifty fifty 0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:00.000 coin flip. They had an all star roster too, though 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:01.719 they were I mean, they were exceptionally good and they 0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:04.919 played the best. I think the Cowboys roster was good enough. 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.560 They just didn't play well enough for a variety of reason. 0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.680 All right, let's get this thing going. That was a 0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:13.080 good first hour. Yeah, can can we maintain? Can we increase? 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.640 All right, let's do it. There we go one two, 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:18.320 three team. Uh, let's get this thing going. With Roger 0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:22.000 Goodell getting booed at the podium, it's the twenty twenty 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.640 two NFL Draft getting ready to get officially started on 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:33.120 one oh five through the fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:37.080 I gotta take this call real quick. Boys. All right, guys, 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:42.600 we continue on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Probably the longest 0:55:42.640 --> 0:55:44.839 that I've ever gone in a one hour draft built 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.319 up without bringing up the most important position in all 0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.759 of sports. That would be the quarterbacks. Oh, you're not 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.640 talking running back. I'm not talking running back. Kyle Kyle 0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:58.040 Gellman's Bobby Belt and Dave Hellman. How bad is this 0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:04.319 quarterback class? That's hard. We just laid out on that 0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.839 right there. I have a personal interest in this. For 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:10.640 those that don't know, I host a morning show on 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:14.239 the Cowboys flagship, and my co host and my producer, Troy, 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.239 who's is running our broadcast tie on the radio side. Uh, 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:21.319 they have a humongous bet involving a shock caller that 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:25.720 if no, if no quarterback goes in the top ten, 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.600 one will get shocked. If one does go in the 0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.520 top ten, the other will get lit up. On our 0:56:30.560 --> 0:56:34.440 morning shows. Who's who's on side? R J says, Shoppy's 0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:38.399 getting shock. A quarterback has to and will go top ten. 0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.680 I think Choppy's getting you do so Caroline at six? 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:43.799 Will that determine it? We got a lot of we 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.319 got a lot of teams in the top ten with 0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:48.520 quarterback needs. I think the Seattle technically could go there, 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:51.080 but I don't think they will. They could, but yeah, 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.399 I think the Panthers at six is probably the number 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.520 one there. Giants just declined an option, but I don't 0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:59.920 know if they'll necessarily pull that trigger. You hearing anything 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.880 Bobby from around now? And I'm these quarterbacks when we 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:06.000 talk about the quarterback class, I'm gonna be so I'm 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:07.840 so different than everybody else just after watching him, like 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.680 everybody loves Willis, and like I think everybody feels like 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:13.279 best about Willis's upside, sure, and I think everybody else 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:16.160 feels like, oh, you know, Kenny Pickett's about the safest 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:17.840 of them all, like like you can get him in 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.000 and he'll plug in and he'll be a decent starter 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.000 right away. To me, the two quarterbacks I like the 0:57:22.000 --> 0:57:24.320 most are Matt Carral from Old Miss, and I like 0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:26.560 way more than anybody else does. Apparently. I like Carson 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:30.840 Strong at Nevada. I would I would like, I mean, 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:32.600 if I was a team that needed a quarterback, I'd 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.600 feel okay taking Strong in the top fifty. I think 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:38.200 if Strong didn't have basically a reconstructed knee, he would 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:40.360 be in this first round conversation. I'm right there with you. 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:42.560 I think he is a great quarterback in black form, 0:57:43.120 --> 0:57:45.360 gig and stand. Yeah, just get him a good offensive line. 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.120 I think I might take Howell if I like had 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.200 to bet on one of these guys beings like him. 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.760 I think I like his athleticism, I like his toughness, 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.400 and I just can't help but think about the fact 0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.720 that all of the talent on his team left a 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.160 year before he did. Like, he had two running backs 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.840 get drafted. He had some good receivers on that twenty 0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:06.640 twenty Carolina team. I just wonder if he just didn't 0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:08.360 have any help last year. I'm gonna chug my energy 0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:10.560 drink now, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, we're on. We're 0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.560 on dot com. Nobody cares. Are we talking about quarterboard back? 0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.320 We are your specialty. Yeah, I'm so good at this. 0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.600 I actually have gotten better. I have gotten better. Loved 0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.840 Mames and Alan. I didn't, and I took a lot 0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:26.280 of grief. I got Picket and then I got Willis 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.040 Corral and how But I got Willis Corral and how 0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:32.280 All in the second round. So you flipped on Corral. 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.400 I thought he was your top. Yeah, I started to 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.320 kind of. I went back and I got some more tape. Yeah, 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:40.680 And I really do love his toughness. I think there's 0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:45.080 there's something about his leadership is really really good. And 0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:48.320 I think guys gravitate towards him. I'll tell you what, 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.800 I'm gutless because I should have put Willis ahead of 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.680 Picket is what I should haven't either, though. Yeah, I 0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.280 think that I think that Willis is really, really, really good. 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.920 I'll tell you what. The guy that everybody's liking is 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:02.640 our guy at Cincinna, Addie Ritter. I think everybody is 0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.880 starting to like, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:06.720 he went in the bottom of the first round. I 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:10.840 could see Ritter in like the twenty five to thirty six. 0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:14.840 Let's make it happen. Willis is easily easily the most 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.880 intriguing from a talent. He is electric. But the thing is, 0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:21.000 and I've like, I've heard this from people. I'm not 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:24.320 I'm not guessing, like I just how quickly can he 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.800 be ready to play NFL football? Do we not care? 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.280 Do we not care as much about who you face 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:33.880 in college anymore? I mean, you know what, but heat 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.720 his game against Old Miss if you want to watch 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:41.880 Old Miss? And how because Liberty took some people to 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.360 the matt did they? Virginia Tech was another one. I 0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:46.360 think that they were in a game like it was 0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:49.520 in Blacksburg that where they were just tote toe. This 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:52.480 kid was a transfer from Auburn, so you knew that 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.400 he had that that kind of that pedigree, you know, 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:57.520 but they ran him off. But man, this guy was 0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.400 one of the most exciting players I scouted a year. 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.240 When you're talking about all the things that he could do, 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.280 and he took a beating in that Old Miss game. 1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:07.040 What do you think gave him a chance to win? 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:09.120 What do you think about what they ask him to do? Though? 1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:11.600 Like is he ready to like drop? Can he like 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:15.160 turn his back to the defense. He never got to 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.680 do that though I was. I called the Liberty North 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.320 Texas game, and I talked to Hugh frees going into that. 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:22.600 The guy just raved about him. And Hugh Freeze has 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.240 seen quarterbacks along the way that have been fantastic. He says, 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:26.919 this guy's up there with any of the other ones 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:29.200 that I've faced that I've coached in terms of off 1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:32.880 the field on the field. And he had zero offensive line. 1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.600 Let me let me reiterate that he had no offensive 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:37.800 line to work with. All Right, we're getting ready to 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:39.960 get this thing going from Vegas. Oh, they got the 1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:43.840 fountain going out there. Let's see what else they do 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:53.280 as we get ready to rejoin the fan. Good evening, y'all. 1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:56.080 Ford Center at the Star is the site of our 1:00:56.160 --> 1:01:00.440 twenty twenty two NFL Draft coverage with Sean Sharif Cowboys 1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:02.880 inside our Bobby Belt. Our lead Scalt Brian brought us 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:06.280 in from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, David Hellman and Kyle 1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:09.880 Yeoman's the scene is set. They are packed deep in 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.440 Las Vegas. A lot of people I would say the 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:17.000 pandemic is over. I would say that that it is over, 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:19.760 so a lot of intrigue. We still don't know what's 1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:23.360 happening at number one. With Jacksonville on the clock, then 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:27.040 it will be the Detroit Lions, the Houston Texans, the 1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:30.440 New York Jets, and then the New York Giants will 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.520 start to get things going. With the NFC East selections. 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:37.560 They're gonna pick at five and seven, with Carolina sandwiched 1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:41.680 in between. Give our listening audience a little little preview 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:45.000 of what you guys are getting from this draft class. 1:01:45.080 --> 1:01:48.160 How how is this draft class defined in terms of 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:51.600 the talent Bobby Belt. It's very very deep and at 1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:53.920 the top. You it's not your you necessarily want to 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:55.680 be picking at the top. I don't think in terms 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:57.640 of there's not the stud that you'd expect to get 1:01:57.640 --> 1:01:59.280 if you're picking on the top ten. I don't want 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:01.560 to be picking one, but I would feel fine picking 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:03.160 ten in the top ten. Like, if you told me 1:02:03.200 --> 1:02:06.800 I had a shot at SaaS Gardner, I'd be very happy. Well, 1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:08.800 it just just depends on what you need then. But 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:10.520 but in terms of like I mean, you just hear 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:12.480 some of these people they talk about consistently, like some 1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:13.960 of these teams, you hear them in the interviews talking 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:17.160 about fourteen first round grades, fifteen first round grades and 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:21.240 some of the stuff that's going around they I mean, 1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:23.240 I think I think they're just preparing you to say, like, 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:25.240 all right, we're gonna take somebody that you know, probably 1:02:25.240 --> 1:02:26.760 in the twenties that you're gonna be like, who did 1:02:26.800 --> 1:02:29.200 you just take? And so that's I think there's a 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.960 lot of uncertainty here. This is This is a a 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:35.120 very fluid I think draft for everybody. It's not one 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:36.720 of these things where well, the NFL has got to 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:38.360 beat on all this, they know where this is going. 1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:40.520 I think they're just as confused as we are heading 1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:43.400 into this thing. I love that. I hope you're right. 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:46.479 I love that so much. That could happen. Yeah, Sean 1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:48.280 said it at the top of the show. Chaos. I 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:51.720 want chaos. Absolutely, You're an agent of chaos. Yeah, man, 1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:53.960 I tell you what, all the years of doing this though, 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:56.600 I don't have a great handle on this one. I 1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:59.600 really don't. Because again last night, the more I talk 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.080 to people, and these are guys and gals in the league, 1:03:02.600 --> 1:03:06.320 you know, and they're and they're talking about things, I'm going, okay, stop, 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:09.000 you know, I mean, and they're trying to create you know, 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:11.560 what if this happens, Well what if you know? And 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:13.440 I'm like, well, why don't you just how do you 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:15.680 have your board? You know, how do you have your guys? 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:17.720 And like, well, we have it, you know, And but 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:20.440 it just seems like that they maybe Dave was talking 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:22.760 about it, you're thinking about it too much, you know, 1:03:22.760 --> 1:03:25.600 you're thinking about it just you know, the teams, I 1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:28.800 think the teams that have the continuity to their drafting department, 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:30.680 maybe this is an opportunity for a team like the 1:03:30.720 --> 1:03:35.160 Cowboys that does have consistency the way they draft that 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:37.480 maybe they won't be all over the place, maybe their 1:03:37.480 --> 1:03:40.280 board won't be like just totally out of whack like 1:03:40.400 --> 1:03:44.040 everybody else's. Keep hearing this story about how Shad Con, 1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:46.120 the owner of the Jags, is like having all these 1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:49.680 meetings with Doug Peterson and Trent Bulk and uh, just 1:03:49.720 --> 1:03:51.480 trying to get on the same page. I'm like that 1:03:51.520 --> 1:03:55.120 sounds exhausting. They all don't agree on Tuesday of draft week, Like, well, see, 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:56.920 that's the problem. You gotta get to a like I 1:03:57.040 --> 1:03:58.520 used to get to a point when I would study 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:01.920 for tests, where like it didn't matter if I'm just 1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:03.960 like I know it as well as I'm gonna know it, 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:05.920 I'm shutting the damn book. Well, that's the problem. And 1:04:06.120 --> 1:04:09.240 again you talk about urban Meyer being the coach. There 1:04:09.240 --> 1:04:12.800 he leaves. You know, week thirteen, No, trimp, Balky was 1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:15.439 really not a general manager. Urban Meyer was the guy 1:04:15.480 --> 1:04:17.840 that was kind of running the personnel department and stuff 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:20.160 like that. All of a sudden, Trent Balky comes back in. 1:04:20.600 --> 1:04:23.240 Everybody's going, well, Trent got you know, he was not 1:04:23.400 --> 1:04:25.320 really part of it. Now he's running it again. The 1:04:25.440 --> 1:04:28.480 jagstand base had like an active campaign to keep it 1:04:28.520 --> 1:04:31.600 from happening. Yeah, Kyle set us up position wise for 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:35.880 strengths and weaknesses of this class. Yeah, I think edge 1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:38.360 rushers where it gets deep. You could say the same 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:41.720 thing about wide receiver. Both of those positions. Edge is 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:45.400 probably the most complete position group in the entire class, 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:47.120 because you do have those top names. You have the 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:50.360 Aidan Hutchinson's, you have the Cabon Thibodeaus, the Treyvon Walkers 1:04:50.440 --> 1:04:52.440 up at the top of the list. Then you've got 1:04:52.480 --> 1:04:54.840 those middle guys that you really feel comfortable about, what 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:58.000 the George karlop this, the David Ojabos even with his 1:04:58.040 --> 1:05:01.240 achilles injury that he suffered on prote Then you've got 1:05:01.240 --> 1:05:03.560 the back end guys like a Sam Williams and Cameron 1:05:03.600 --> 1:05:06.520 Thomas and Arnold Avicatie that will go in day late, 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:09.040 day two into day three that you feel like him 1:05:09.120 --> 1:05:12.480 be either developmental guys or impact guys early on. So 1:05:12.520 --> 1:05:17.040 I would say most complete class edge rusher, wide, receivers, deep. 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:20.920 I would say offensive line not necessarily very deep, and 1:05:20.960 --> 1:05:23.600 then quarterback is not very top tight end. So tight 1:05:23.680 --> 1:05:25.480 end in there for me. Man, Oh yeah, no, I agree, 1:05:25.520 --> 1:05:27.320 because I'm sitting there. You know, there might not be 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:29.680 a first round tight end. But we've talked about McBride 1:05:29.680 --> 1:05:33.600 from Colorado State, and then you know with Otton Woods, 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:36.200 Rucker Cole, I mean, they've got some guys that can 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:39.360 play once McBride goes. Yeah, they're all gonna go. I 1:05:39.360 --> 1:05:41.640 think it's going to be a run and it's not. Again, 1:05:41.680 --> 1:05:43.600 it might not be in the second round, but there's 1:05:43.640 --> 1:05:45.720 going to be a run on these tight ends. Say 1:05:45.760 --> 1:05:48.040 we're talking, we're talking day two stuff here at the 1:05:48.040 --> 1:05:50.760 top of the first But but but what I'm fine, okay, 1:05:50.760 --> 1:05:55.040 but but okay, you mentioned the defensive ends, the wide receivers, 1:05:54.720 --> 1:05:57.640 the corners. I'll tell you this is a good safety 1:05:57.640 --> 1:05:59.720 group too. It is if you need to say, it's 1:05:59.800 --> 1:06:02.120 used only if you like, oh, we can't find a safety. 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:03.880 And if you can't find a safety out of this 1:06:04.000 --> 1:06:06.920 draft at free or strong, then you don't need to 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:09.720 be drafted. You'd be doing radio with me, you know 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:12.720 that kind of stuff because I feel like though that 1:06:12.920 --> 1:06:16.160 to me that that group's pretty deep. The corner is group. 1:06:16.360 --> 1:06:18.920 And I'll tell you what, these linebackers, it's not a 1:06:18.960 --> 1:06:21.080 bad group. When you start to talk about the walkers 1:06:21.120 --> 1:06:25.320 to Christian Harris's Tyndale from Georgia, those types of guys. 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:29.480 It's a very versatile linebacker class. That's very interesting. You 1:06:29.520 --> 1:06:31.560 have the guys that you look at as a potential 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:33.600 Micah Parsons, where they can rush the past or they 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:36.240 can come off the edge. They're almost a glorified stand 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:38.720 up edge stuff like that. But then you've also got 1:06:38.760 --> 1:06:41.600 these small compact linebackers that are going to fly sideline 1:06:41.600 --> 1:06:44.680 the sideline. There's kind of a there's something for everybody 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:47.280 from a linebacker standpoint, which bodes well for the Cowboys. 1:06:47.320 --> 1:06:49.720 How about these defensive tackles, how about at the one 1:06:49.760 --> 1:06:53.640 technique the big daddies with like Davis and Jones from 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:57.680 a Yukon, matth Is from Alabama, Ridgeway Arc and so, 1:06:57.800 --> 1:07:01.080 I mean those are big bodied one technique guys that 1:07:01.520 --> 1:07:03.600 I kind of have. All those three guys, Davis, Jones, 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:06.720 math is around. Let me just get my satisfaction of 1:07:06.840 --> 1:07:15.080 hearing Roger Bood at the podium to open up this thing. Yes, 1:07:15.200 --> 1:07:24.360 here we go, let's go. Let's right, I guess, come on, 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:28.640 ns Vegas, let's go. He's like, bring it harder. I'm 1:07:28.680 --> 1:07:37.480 used to worse. Okay, all right, that's enough. I just 1:07:37.520 --> 1:07:40.720 wanted to do it I was hoping for. Wasn't that 1:07:40.760 --> 1:07:43.120 weaker than years past? Guys. I'll tell you what I'm 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:47.040 really he's with. I'm trying to figure out who the 1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:52.120 guys on the podium Waller and Um the other one 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:55.600 was definitely Waller. I think future Green Bay Packer. Who 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:58.760 is that On the end, Bobby Marcus Allen. Marcus Allen 1:07:58.800 --> 1:08:01.760 set us up for the Cowboys and some of the 1:08:01.840 --> 1:08:04.680 names they be they may be looking at tonight at 1:08:04.720 --> 1:08:08.040 twenty four. I think, if you're well, we'll have to 1:08:08.080 --> 1:08:09.600 see how the board plays out before we even start 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:12.800 talking about trading up. I think we start talking about 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:14.880 trading uplins we see we get towards like picks ten 1:08:14.880 --> 1:08:16.439 to eleven. Then we start seeing where the board is 1:08:16.520 --> 1:08:18.600 and we can figure out if we think it's something reasonable. 1:08:18.840 --> 1:08:20.519 I think if we're just talking about them, staying back 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:24.120 at twenty four names, we need to know. You got 1:08:24.280 --> 1:08:28.280 Kenyan Green, the guard from Texas A and m Zion Johnson, 1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:32.080 the do it all lineman from Boston College. I think 1:08:32.080 --> 1:08:35.160 they think of his spot best might be at center. 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:37.200 Doesn't mean he wouldn't necessarily play guard right out of 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:40.200 the jump here, But um, I think you've got Treylan Burkes, 1:08:40.200 --> 1:08:42.400 they're super from Arkansas. He would be in contention there. 1:08:42.680 --> 1:08:44.639 And then when we've talked about some of these wipeout snares, 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:48.080 we've heard the chatter about Tyler Smith at Tulsa the tackle. 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:53.400 How about maybe as a trade back. I don't know 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:56.720 about wipe out at twenty four potentially um or you know, 1:08:56.720 --> 1:08:58.840 we we've heard a little bit of chatter in recent 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:02.360 days that you know, maybe Nakobe Dean would be a 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:05.920 whiteout guy for them. Yea, which would blow my mind. 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:07.640 Which would I think we encounter to a lot of 1:09:07.640 --> 1:09:10.240 their stuff. You gotta add Devin Lloyd to just again. 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:11.840 I mean, I just don't expect Lloyd to be there 1:09:11.920 --> 1:09:15.200 is why fair, totally fair. But if if he's around 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:18.120 in that range, sure he'd be in the conversation trying 1:09:18.120 --> 1:09:20.400 to read t leaves, knowing that he was a thirty visitor. 1:09:20.479 --> 1:09:23.920 I think it's worth mentioning more likely if there's one 1:09:23.960 --> 1:09:28.120 to move back or move up. Bobby, what you say 1:09:28.120 --> 1:09:29.479 the Cowboys were likely to do up or down? I 1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:33.280 think they're more likely to go up. Why because that's 1:09:33.320 --> 1:09:35.760 where we've talked about it. That's where the value is 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:37.360 going to be if you want to match the value 1:09:37.360 --> 1:09:39.960 in the first round. Stephen talks about third, fourth, fifth round. 1:09:40.000 --> 1:09:41.400 That's where it's deep. So I think they feel like 1:09:41.400 --> 1:09:42.960 we can get a third round graded player in the third. 1:09:42.960 --> 1:09:44.559 We can get a fourth round in the fourth I 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:45.880 don't think they feel like they can get a first 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:48.720 in a second round graded player in those rounds if 1:09:48.760 --> 1:09:50.600 they just stay put. So if you want to go 1:09:50.680 --> 1:09:52.719 up and sure you get a first round graded player, 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:54.760 go make the deal, get rid of your second and 1:09:54.800 --> 1:09:57.840 then start picking actual value starting in the third round. 1:09:57.840 --> 1:09:59.559 Can you think to trade up for teams in the 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:01.880 back of the the draft of the wide receivers that 1:10:02.000 --> 1:10:04.200 if one of those wide receivers are on the board, 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:07.360 because yeah, because I'm kind of feeling like though that 1:10:07.360 --> 1:10:09.799 we're gonna lose a lot of these wide receivers. Yes, 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:12.000 but if one of them comes sliding down and maybe 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:14.320 you're not going to pick them, maybe the Cowboys are 1:10:14.320 --> 1:10:16.400 not going to take uh you know, I don't think 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:18.320 a lobby gets to you or anything like that. But 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:21.240 maybe there's somebody that that pickings or somebody like that, 1:10:21.360 --> 1:10:24.200 or did they just sit and and I'm not again 1:10:24.240 --> 1:10:27.679 the Cowboys I'm talking about for trade backs, it's more 1:10:27.720 --> 1:10:31.160 likely for somebody to come up. Right. Abel draft is 1:10:31.200 --> 1:10:41.200 now officially open. The Jacksonville Jaguars are now on the clock. 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:45.880 All right, all right, here we go. I've never noticed 1:10:45.920 --> 1:10:49.800 that Goodell says jaguires. Yeah, Jack, I am a I 1:10:49.800 --> 1:10:54.000 am nothing if not a snotty, pretentious writer. I hate 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:57.040 when people say jaguiar. You know, you know, you know 1:10:57.040 --> 1:11:00.000 who hates that the most is our old buddy from England, 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.479 Dan Turner, because he worked for the company Jaguar, so 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:05.160 he hates hearing us say the word jag You are 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:09.040 is wrong too, yes, but yes, yeah, yeah, of course no. 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:12.000 I think that when you to me, if they're gonna 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:13.720 go up, that's the where you get the value. You 1:11:13.720 --> 1:11:15.000 gotta go up. You're gonna have to go up to 1:11:15.000 --> 1:11:18.000 probably twelve to fourteen to actually get the correct value. Now, 1:11:18.000 --> 1:11:19.880 if you want to go up a little bit to 1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:22.080 seventeen to twenty to ensure you get your guy, you 1:11:22.120 --> 1:11:23.760 may be trading up. Honestly, if you go up to 1:11:23.760 --> 1:11:26.200 seventeen to twenty, if you make a little jump like that, 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:28.519 you may be trading up to get a second round 1:11:28.560 --> 1:11:31.200 graded player. Yeah, that's just the way the board may 1:11:31.240 --> 1:11:33.920 shake out. I agree with that. Again, the teams that 1:11:34.080 --> 1:11:36.439 might come from the back, keep an eye on Kansas City. 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:39.400 They're really aggressive. You know, maybe that Tennessee might come. 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:41.840 Tennessee is another team that Bobby was talking about it, 1:11:41.920 --> 1:11:44.360 you know earlier today that was looking to make a jump. 1:11:44.760 --> 1:11:47.599 If in fact that that say Burke's from Arkansas? Is there? 1:11:47.720 --> 1:11:51.559 Tell us who you guys know the Cowboys love. I 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:54.000 don't care whether it's a twenty four, who's top on 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:56.800 their board. Whatever, you can tell us and reveal about 1:11:56.800 --> 1:11:58.960 who they love in this draft, Dave, when we have 1:11:59.120 --> 1:12:02.200 the conversation about them trading up, like, oh, a guy 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:06.439 slides into a realistic range and maybe you consider it. 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:09.200 The name that is in my brain is Drake London. Yeah, 1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:12.840 every single time they adore him. If you're not, if 1:12:12.840 --> 1:12:17.679 you're not a draft nick, it's the tall usc wide receiver, big, big, 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:20.080 contested catch guy, big go up and get it guy. 1:12:20.200 --> 1:12:22.719 I think the type of receiver that gets fans excited. 1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:26.800 He just you know, I hate compared plays where here 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:30.840 on the outside outside and Michael Gallup and Ceedee Lamb 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:33.639 can both go inside and out. So he's he becomes 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:36.560 your X in my opinion. Um yeah, he's a prototype. 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:39.680 Um no, I was gonna. I was laughing because I 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:43.400 hate comparing draft prospects to all pros and on he's 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:45.280 not as good as Mike Evans. But he's that type 1:12:45.280 --> 1:12:48.760 of receiver, that that type. I'm not saying he's Mike Evans. 1:12:48.760 --> 1:12:50.040 I'm gonna be asking you ask for a lot of 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:53.280 comps to Yeah, that's fine. Um, I will say that's 1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:55.680 that is the number one name that like, let's you know, 1:12:56.040 --> 1:12:58.400 he's supposed to be gone by pick twelve or so 1:12:58.560 --> 1:13:01.880 if he's hanging around it like fifteen sixteen for some reason, 1:13:02.120 --> 1:13:03.880 that's what I got my you know what you talk 1:13:03.920 --> 1:13:07.000 about comps and my guys here in the Draft show 1:13:07.080 --> 1:13:09.320 probably heard me say this. When I was watching Drake 1:13:09.400 --> 1:13:11.640 London in those games at USC, I thought I was 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:15.280 watching a bigger version of Adam Feeland and Adam Fealand 1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:18.839 six two two one Drake Lynd six four two nineteen. 1:13:19.280 --> 1:13:22.000 But when you start to talk about catch radius over 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:24.679 the middle, doesn't matter where you are on the field, 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:26.920 he's gonna catch the ball, break a tack will get 1:13:27.000 --> 1:13:29.360 up the field that you know, Adam Feeland to meet 1:13:29.439 --> 1:13:32.080 catches every single ball they throw in his directions. And 1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:35.840 Drake London, to me, was that kind of guy. It 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:38.760 doesn't matter where it's thrown, he's gonna come down with 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:40.479 And I kind of think the same thing with Adam 1:13:40.479 --> 1:13:42.640 Feeland when I watched him play for the Vikings. You know, 1:13:43.200 --> 1:13:45.439 go ahead. I was just gonna say, you're saying Adam Feeland, 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:47.679 You're saying Mike Evans, how don't you love how that happens? 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:50.320 Him across the hall are saying Jordy Nelson. They think 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:52.680 he's Jordy Nelson two point zero, and I mean the 1:13:52.720 --> 1:13:55.080 coach across the hall now coach Jordy Nelson to what 1:13:55.120 --> 1:13:58.240 he ended up becoming. They think Drake London's that guy. 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:01.280 I think Burkes is more of Mike Evans to me. 1:14:01.439 --> 1:14:04.640 When you watch the vertical player, when you have enough separation, 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:07.040 like it's it's not one of those things, you're like, 1:14:07.040 --> 1:14:09.760 the guy's running away, but then when you watch the tape, 1:14:09.840 --> 1:14:12.519 he never gets he never gets tackled. You know, he's 1:14:12.720 --> 1:14:14.920 he runs four or five, five or whatever, but then 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:17.760 he's running into the end zone not getting tackled. I 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:20.360 kind of see the same thing with Mike Evans. Vertical player, 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:24.120 down the field, catch the football and then finish. Let's 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:26.800 talk about what's happening right now. There's six minutes left 1:14:26.800 --> 1:14:29.040 on the clock as Jackson mill is gonna get all 1:14:29.080 --> 1:14:31.920 their shine. Of course, the Jaguars, they're still figuring out 1:14:31.920 --> 1:14:34.360 who they're gonna pick. Okay, I hope to hell not 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:38.639 for their sake. So who will it be? Who should 1:14:38.640 --> 1:14:41.600 it be? Bobby? It'll be Trayvon Walker, I think, and 1:14:41.920 --> 1:14:45.360 I mean I at this stage, it's kind of you know, 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:47.120 just with this draft class being what it is, I 1:14:47.160 --> 1:14:48.400 feel like, just roll the dice and if you want 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:50.479 somebod who's solid, it should be Aiden Hutchinson. I think 1:14:50.520 --> 1:14:53.080 that's the safest guy to me. But are you guys 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:56.639 willing to take seventy cents sixty cents on the dollar 1:14:56.720 --> 1:14:59.720 to move out of this I don't think that. I 1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:01.800 don't think that that that that general man, I don't 1:15:01.800 --> 1:15:04.320 think that that team wants they're bad. You're picking one 1:15:04.360 --> 1:15:06.439 back back. You need to get better. There's there's too 1:15:06.479 --> 1:15:08.720 many guys in that room that like Walker. You know, 1:15:08.880 --> 1:15:11.880 Brinson Buckner's the defensive line coach. I'm hearing he really 1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:14.920 loves Walker and all that. Me personally, I think Doug 1:15:14.920 --> 1:15:17.639 Peterson's right. If you take a Quan move the tackle 1:15:17.840 --> 1:15:21.559 at a North Carolina State, you're helping your quarterback. That's 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:25.200 that's your future. That you do not want your quarterback 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:28.200 to struggle like he did last year. If everybody there's 1:15:28.240 --> 1:15:30.840 going to keep their job, they want want to figure 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:33.360 out ways to help him along. I would do that. 1:15:33.760 --> 1:15:36.439 Sean asked the question, who should it be? It should 1:15:36.479 --> 1:15:39.760 be Ikey Aquanu out of NCY State. That's who I 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:42.720 would do it. That's protect Trevor Lawrence. Find a way 1:15:42.760 --> 1:15:45.080 to move him into his next step, because that's how 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:47.439 you get better as a franchise, is him taking the 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:52.759 step to be an NFL caliber or an exponential caliber quarterback. However, 1:15:52.760 --> 1:15:55.120 who it will be, It's gonna be one of these addreshers. 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:58.519 It's gonna be Aidan Hutchetson, Cabin Thibodeau, Trayvon Walker, Bob 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:01.519 sat Walker makes sense. Let me ask you this scout, guys, 1:16:01.560 --> 1:16:04.639 pick is in not announced yet, Pick is in. I'm 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:08.160 so The debate for months now is like Hutchinson is solid, 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:11.960 high floor, low ceiling. Walker has this crazy high upside, 1:16:11.960 --> 1:16:14.559 but maybe he'll never meet it. But everything I know 1:16:14.600 --> 1:16:19.840 about Walkers that he's also this tenacious run defender. Doesn't 1:16:19.880 --> 1:16:22.960 that give him a high floor as well? Like not 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:25.880 saying that this is what you want, but if if 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:30.920 Walker is a four to six sacks, but does all 1:16:31.080 --> 1:16:33.519 the dirty work really well? Like? Is that? I mean 1:16:33.680 --> 1:16:35.760 it would be disappointing, but also not the end of 1:16:35.760 --> 1:16:38.960 the war world? Right, No? That is that sexy enough 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:42.400 for number one? But that's this isn't where picking number 1:16:42.400 --> 1:16:46.160 one is sexy. Yeah, it just isn't. And so I 1:16:46.160 --> 1:16:48.400 I think if I was picking between those two edges, 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:52.160 I'm gambling on the upside of Walker knowing that he 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:53.960 can do other stuff for me. All right, So you 1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:56.519 guys think it's gonna be Walker? Yeah, Yeah, that's who 1:16:56.560 --> 1:16:58.439 I think. Or are you gonna say Bobby No, I 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:02.680 was just gonna call Dave, Dave Balky stop all right, 1:17:02.800 --> 1:17:05.639 let's see what happens. So, just so you know, the 1:17:05.760 --> 1:17:09.160 draft order is going to go with Jacksonville number one, 1:17:09.360 --> 1:17:12.640 then the Lions at two, the Texans at three, the 1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:15.639 Jets at four, and the New York Football Giants will 1:17:15.680 --> 1:17:19.760 pick at five and seven, with Carolina Sandwich right in 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:24.240 between at number six. Are we expecting a ton of trades? 1:17:24.880 --> 1:17:27.920 On average? It's about six trades per year in the 1:17:28.000 --> 1:17:31.599 first round. That's the average. I thought that was high. 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:33.840 I thought it was high. The really high. The overunder 1:17:33.920 --> 1:17:36.360 was set in Vegas at three and a half tonight 1:17:36.600 --> 1:17:39.080 for Round one. Everybody wants out. Nobody wants to go 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:41.160 up as the problem or not enough guys want to 1:17:41.160 --> 1:17:44.320 go up. There's there's a whole lot worth going up for. 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:46.639 And if it is it's taken in the top ten, 1:17:46.840 --> 1:17:48.639 you don't really know how it's going to shape out. 1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:51.000 There's so much uncertainty. If you're gonna go up. It 1:17:51.040 --> 1:17:53.280 goes back to what we were talking about earlier. You 1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:56.400 have a player in mind. This is a buyer's market. Yeah, 1:17:56.439 --> 1:18:00.960 the draft normally you can you know, average deals elsewhere 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:02.200 to get out and like, well they're giving us this, 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:04.439 They're going us this. Here we go. Let's go to 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:06.840 the podium with Roger Goodell and the number one pick 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:13.400 with the draft going down. With the first pick in 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:18.120 the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select 1:18:19.360 --> 1:18:26.320 Trayvon Walker, Georgia. What a rise linebacker? Huh Yeah, that's interesting. 1:18:26.400 --> 1:18:29.240 What a rise when you look at the different mock drafts. 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:32.200 We'll come back and analyze it. We'll put the Lions 1:18:32.280 --> 1:18:34.640 on the clock. We are just getting started. Thrilled that 1:18:34.640 --> 1:18:37.080 you're joining us. We're here all night long on one 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:40.360 oh five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. 1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:50.280 All right, we are here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Brian, 1:18:50.640 --> 1:18:53.439 was this a was this a surprising late rise for 1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:57.360 this guy based upon Hutchinson and Hutchinson was the locked 1:18:57.360 --> 1:19:01.400 in favor for the last three months funny years almost. Yeah. 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:04.600 When we started this process in January, Thibodeau was like 1:19:04.640 --> 1:19:08.640 the first overall player. Hutchinson was getting some love. I 1:19:08.680 --> 1:19:11.719 think if you watch some of the late tape, especially 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:14.599 the playoff game, you know against Georgia and stuff, there 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:17.639 was you know, it was kind of evident that maybe 1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:20.639 this guy is kind of who he is ability wise. 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:24.280 I think with Walker it was a you know, everybody 1:19:24.320 --> 1:19:26.920 will say, oh well, the scouts were the scouts were 1:19:27.360 --> 1:19:30.080 are on him the whole time. The media scouts were late, 1:19:30.680 --> 1:19:33.439 but yeah, there was I mean, there is a he 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:35.680 is a very good football player at six five at 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.040 two hundred and seventy two pounds. I think you know, 1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:40.479 we had with talking with Dane Burglar a lot. Dane 1:19:40.520 --> 1:19:42.080 was on him very very early, and I bet you 1:19:42.160 --> 1:19:44.120 Dane had talked to some of those scouts about him. 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:47.320 But you can gonna watch him play edge and you 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:50.360 can watch him play some defensive tackle and I think 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:52.639 there's some you know, I think there's something about him though, 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:54.719 the bend and things like that that he's probably gonna 1:19:54.720 --> 1:19:56.800 have to work on a little bit. But this is 1:19:56.840 --> 1:19:58.760 a guy that kind of Dave was talking about, play 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:01.000 the run, play the past per Well, yeah, he can 1:20:01.080 --> 1:20:03.439 do a lot of stuff for you besides get after 1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:05.640 the quarterback. But that's that's the thing is you take 1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:08.280 him number one because so he can do that. So 1:20:08.760 --> 1:20:10.360 that's what we're gonna have to watch just to see 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:12.760 how well he develops that for my month, Like, with 1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:16.080 all due respect to him, this makes me super interested 1:20:16.240 --> 1:20:19.799 in what's about to happen in Detroit because just listening 1:20:19.840 --> 1:20:23.000 to just trying to pay attention to the entire league, 1:20:23.040 --> 1:20:24.639 you know, you keep an eye on all these teams, 1:20:24.640 --> 1:20:26.800 and the word coming out of Detroit is that their 1:20:26.880 --> 1:20:30.760 GM loves cave On Thibadeau. But Aidan Hutchinson is a 1:20:30.800 --> 1:20:34.839 Michigan guy. From Campbell guy. He's from Detroit. He eats glass. 1:20:34.880 --> 1:20:37.759 He's very Dan Campbell type of player. Like I wonder 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:40.200 they might just be having a wrestling match in their 1:20:40.200 --> 1:20:42.600 war room right now to see who he's got, and 1:20:42.640 --> 1:20:44.920 you've got a couple of those old school type of 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:48.400 guys Dan Campbell, then you know Spielman there as well. 1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:50.720 I mean, kind of a couple beat a couple of 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:52.880 meat heads if you really want to be honest about it, 1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:54.880 you know, and they're and they're gonna want a guy 1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.800 that is you know, when you talk about Timbo and 1:20:57.800 --> 1:20:59.800 Bobby brought up some points. You know, if all of 1:20:59.800 --> 1:21:01.600 this so, if Tibodeau was one of these guys that 1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:03.840 you find out he was trying to beg out of 1:21:03.880 --> 1:21:05.559 some stuff, didn't want to be a part. How much 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:08.320 this guy really loved football, you think Dan Campbell and 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:11.880 Spielman are going to be on board with that guy 1:21:11.600 --> 1:21:14.320 that this this Dave's right, this is a very very 1:21:14.400 --> 1:21:17.360 interesting pick for the Lions going forward. Well, when you 1:21:17.439 --> 1:21:20.960 have Treyvon Walker, he now joins Trevor Lawrence. These have 1:21:21.000 --> 1:21:23.040 been the last number one picks. Just think of like 1:21:23.120 --> 1:21:25.720 the hype factor and again hype a lot of times 1:21:25.720 --> 1:21:30.320 it's overrated. But Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler, Murray Baker, 1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:37.840 Miles Garrett, Jared Goff, Jamis Clowney, Eric Fisher, and uh 1:21:38.439 --> 1:21:44.000 did I say Clowney, Hu Miles, Garrett, Jamis Clowney, Andrew Luck, 1:21:44.080 --> 1:21:46.920 Cam Newton. He now joins those names which you go 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:50.240 read that list, Eric Fisher, the tackle that wound up 1:21:50.280 --> 1:21:52.759 in Kansas City, Like this is the least sexy draft 1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:57.519 in terms of star power since twenty thirs absolutely. With 1:21:57.720 --> 1:22:02.400 the second pick in the twenty two NFL Draft, the 1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:08.000 Detroit Lions select Aiden Hutchinson. Here we go Desvan Michigan. 1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:14.320 The Beadheads won, Dant meadeads on the mead Heads one. 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:17.040 Who does this guy remind you of? The war is 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:22.120 over Lebowski? Who is the comparisons? I mean, you could 1:22:22.120 --> 1:22:24.320 start to talk about the guys, I think the boss 1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:28.400 had better bend. I think the bosses were quicker. When 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:30.800 you start to talk about the Watts, I think they're 1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:34.240 more explosive. So I cannot think that he's below that 1:22:34.400 --> 1:22:36.439 group of guys. All Right, we're getting ready to come 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:38.639 back with one oh five three of the fan will 1:22:38.680 --> 1:22:51.599 reset the first two picks of the draft. The Detroit 1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:55.639 Lions just selected Aiden Hutchinson, who had been locked in 1:22:56.040 --> 1:22:59.240 as the number one pick for the past few months 1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:03.519 until Trayvon Walker took over that spot. He is selected 1:23:03.560 --> 1:23:07.879 by Jacksonville at one, Aidan Hutchinson at two, Sean Shreife, 1:23:08.160 --> 1:23:11.040 Bobby Bell. Our Cowboys insider Brian brought us David Helmont 1:23:11.040 --> 1:23:14.280 and Kyle Yelman's from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Could the 1:23:14.320 --> 1:23:17.160 Lions be celebrating like they got gifted the best player 1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:20.639 in the draft. Could they be feeling that way, Dave Hellman? 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:23.280 And who does this guy remind you of? I mean, yeah, 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:25.400 they have to be celebrated, because again, were we talked 1:23:25.439 --> 1:23:28.320 about it, like this is a Dan Campbell guy, like 1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:31.559 this fits the ethos of what he's trying to build. 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:33.639 And on top of that, and I mean it doesn't 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:35.320 matter in terms of building a football team, but from 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:38.719 a narrative perspective, you think a guy from Michigan's national 1:23:38.720 --> 1:23:41.840 title team that are national playoff team, you know what 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:45.080 I mean, who grew up in Detroit, Like you think 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:47.000 that's gonna help him sell jerseys and tickets. I have 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:49.680 a feeling at Will. So yeah, I'm sure they are pumped. Now. 1:23:49.720 --> 1:23:51.880 When we were on the internet side of things, Brian 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:55.519 kind of outlined who he reminded or who he was 1:23:55.560 --> 1:23:58.280 reminded of when watching Aidan Hutchinson could you go through 1:23:58.280 --> 1:23:59.720 that because I had to follow up to what you 1:23:59.760 --> 1:24:01.680 said earlier. I want to well, I was trying to 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:03.519 compare it. When you look at the brothers like the 1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:06.679 Bosa brothers, I thought there was more explosiveness, more quickness. 1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:08.439 You look at the Watt brothers, I thought there was 1:24:08.760 --> 1:24:11.360 that quick first step and all that. I think this 1:24:11.400 --> 1:24:14.800 guy is in that category. But below those guys, I 1:24:14.800 --> 1:24:17.559 don't know if this guy has that first step. But 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:20.240 what he has is those guys, is how relentless that 1:24:20.320 --> 1:24:22.920 he's able to play. You know, those are the kind 1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:25.519 you know we always about guys like the and I 1:24:25.520 --> 1:24:28.000 hate when you say, oh, well it's Ryan Carrigan or 1:24:28.040 --> 1:24:31.439 someone try, how hard guys stuff like that. But this guy, though, 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:34.360 he doesn't stop. And they always say this guy the motor, 1:24:34.400 --> 1:24:37.000 the motor, the motor. This guy doesn't. But there's games 1:24:37.000 --> 1:24:39.320 so you can watch him play where guys blocked him. 1:24:39.560 --> 1:24:41.880 I mean you you can watch Ohio State, you can 1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:44.880 watch Georgia where these guys kind of blocked this guy 1:24:44.920 --> 1:24:47.599 a little bit. I just want to I go out 1:24:47.640 --> 1:24:49.960 of Jobo might have been the better rusher at times 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.920 a little bit at Michigan. If you be honest with him. 1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:54.879 I go out of my way to defend Ryan Carrigan 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:57.000 whenever I can, because, yeah, he's no, he's a hell 1:24:57.040 --> 1:24:58.720 of a plan. I think he gets credit for how 1:24:59.200 --> 1:25:03.759 career he had hundred career sex. Yeah, and I compared 1:25:03.840 --> 1:25:05.559 him to Joey Bosa just because of the way that 1:25:05.600 --> 1:25:08.400 he plays. They have a very similar stylistic approach in 1:25:08.520 --> 1:25:10.519 terms of rushing the passer and getting off the edge, 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:13.240 and they they have some of the same tools. But 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:16.040 I agree with you, it's a poor man's Joey Bosa 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:17.840 kind of a step down. Still going to be an 1:25:17.840 --> 1:25:20.000 impact guy, don't get me wrong, and he has a 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:22.240 ceiling as high as anybody in the draft class. But 1:25:22.280 --> 1:25:25.559 I think Aidan Hutchinson and a microcosm is just as 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:29.120 representative of this entire draft class as anybody else is 1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:31.360 going to be picked tonight because he's a good player. 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:34.360 He has solid upside, but in terms of the players 1:25:34.360 --> 1:25:36.160 that have been taken in the last couple of drafts, 1:25:36.160 --> 1:25:38.639 he's just not to that point, not to that level. 1:25:38.880 --> 1:25:41.160 At the moment when he's picked into the NFL, what 1:25:41.200 --> 1:25:43.920 are we looking at with the Houston Texans on the clock. 1:25:44.120 --> 1:25:45.720 This could be a. This could be a corner, don't 1:25:45.760 --> 1:25:50.320 you think, Bombay. There's so much buzz around Stingley. Yeah, 1:25:50.760 --> 1:25:52.880 this is going to be yeah. Yeah. You go back 1:25:52.880 --> 1:25:54.920 to what we said at the top of the show 1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:58.559 about like diya overthink it. If they draft Derek Stingley, 1:25:58.680 --> 1:26:01.880 it would be such poetic justice because for the overthinkers 1:26:02.040 --> 1:26:04.439 we were, we were penciling this guy into the top 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:07.599 five two years ago and then came up with two 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:10.040 dozen reasons why that didn't make sense. And so if 1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:15.400 if injury history for Stingleys injuries like football, questions about buying, 1:26:15.640 --> 1:26:18.439 questions like is he like the dog Alpha that's going 1:26:18.520 --> 1:26:22.640 to lead your tape island? Is his film better than 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:25.320 Sauce Gardner? I put his twenty nineteen film up against 1:26:25.400 --> 1:26:28.759 anything you throw out there. Honestly, Um, not the last 1:26:28.800 --> 1:26:32.240 the last two seasons, no, no, but there's there is 1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:35.000 good tape even you got you y'all pointed that out 1:26:35.000 --> 1:26:36.920 to me, Like I was down on Stingley because I'm 1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:39.639 a jaded LSU fan who had to watch him struggle 1:26:39.680 --> 1:26:42.439 for two years. But he played well before he got hurt, 1:26:42.439 --> 1:26:44.640 and he did anyone he did, he absolutely did, And 1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.479 I think, to me, that the more you really dug 1:26:47.479 --> 1:26:49.439 in and and and Bobby, wasn't you that I was 1:26:49.479 --> 1:26:53.479 talking to about Houston about someone was telling me about 1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:56.360 their their pro their pro personnel director or their assistant 1:26:56.360 --> 1:26:59.479 pro personnel director lives in Louisiana. Was not me? Okay, 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:01.400 I taught this is what this is what happens in 1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:05.559 my life. Start blending phone calls exactly. Okay, Houston, Houston 1:27:05.680 --> 1:27:09.200 has Houston has their pro their assistant pro personal director 1:27:09.240 --> 1:27:13.320 lives in Louisiana. So he knows really what's going on. Now. 1:27:13.360 --> 1:27:16.360 All you have to do is talk to the previous staff. 1:27:16.400 --> 1:27:18.759 You talk to football operations. You talk to these people. 1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:22.040 They will tell you about this guy. They will tell 1:27:22.080 --> 1:27:24.840 you about what he needs. They will tell you he's 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:26.840 not a bad kid. They will tell you that he 1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:30.280 loves football. He's had some he's had injuries. Here we 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:33.000 go with Roger Goodell. We're kind of moving along nice 1:27:33.040 --> 1:27:35.280 and brisk here. Good for them, they're not overthinking in 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:39.439 these conversation. Texans on the clock. With the third pick 1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:44.320 in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Houston Texans 1:27:44.400 --> 1:27:53.080 like Derek Stingley, junior defensive back Lsu Okay, guys three 1:27:53.160 --> 1:27:55.840 for three. Wow, Yeah, I'm doing really good right now. 1:27:56.640 --> 1:27:58.920 Don't smirk at me, David. It's not like you have 1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:01.439 Twitter opener or anything. I didn't see it until I 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:03.760 say I didn't see it. I had fail here has 1:28:03.800 --> 1:28:06.280 done a much better job, right. I can't remember who 1:28:06.360 --> 1:28:08.280 leaks the picks, but I blocked that person a long 1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:11.639 time ago. I hated that individual, but I hate when 1:28:11.640 --> 1:28:14.960 they ruined the drama. And I got a message here 1:28:15.000 --> 1:28:17.640 that they told Jacksonville be close to the vest and 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:20.160 try to go ahead and take up your time. So 1:28:20.400 --> 1:28:22.639 we want the intrigue. That's what we like, all right, Bobby, 1:28:22.680 --> 1:28:26.400 who goes four or five? Six? Do I need to 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:31.080 do this? Yeah? Yes, yes, Sauce Sauce. Sauce's next. I'll say, 1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:34.040 Sauce Gardner here four to the Jets, good pick, and 1:28:34.080 --> 1:28:38.080 then I'll say five is gonna be ikey okay, Wow, 1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:40.760 this would be really impressed, Sauce. Ikey okay, ikey to 1:28:40.840 --> 1:28:42.720 the giants of I don't think I disagree though, and 1:28:42.760 --> 1:28:45.240 I'm I mean, I'm not looking at anything. Six six. 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:47.439 Everybody kept saying three is where it gets interesting. I 1:28:47.439 --> 1:28:49.320 think you were starting to hear enough buzz about Stingley 1:28:49.360 --> 1:28:51.880 to Houston that I started pinpointing. Six is where it 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:53.360 gets interesting for me. I don't know what Caroline is 1:28:53.400 --> 1:28:54.760 gonna do. I don't know if they're gonna trade out. 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:56.280 I don't know if they're gonna reach for a quarterback. 1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:58.040 I don't know if they'll say, well, we gotta go Bpa. 1:28:58.120 --> 1:29:00.439 That's gonna be the interesting. Pick six is where confused. 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:03.080 All right, let's let's focus on four then with the 1:29:03.160 --> 1:29:06.400 Jets on the clock. Uh, Look, no team has been 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:10.280 more desperate to get a receiver this offseason. We know 1:29:10.360 --> 1:29:12.439 that they made a humongous offered at Tyree Hill. There 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:16.200 are Deebo Samuel rumors that are out there. They clearly 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:18.960 feel a little bit burned and have some regret that 1:29:19.000 --> 1:29:22.200 they didn't give Sam Darnel guys to go to throw too, 1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:25.200 and they don't want to make the same mistake with Wilson. 1:29:25.360 --> 1:29:30.280 So we're still looking at defense versus offense. I still 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:32.920 think they need offensive tackle help. There's not I don't 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:36.120 think there's a receiver worth taking that. It's it's easier 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:37.680 to do that when you have two top ten picks, though, 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:39.840 when you're picking at ten and you can go all right, 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.799 maybe one receiver's off by the time we pick at ten. Yeah, 1:29:44.040 --> 1:29:46.760 but you still think Sauce over an offensive line in here? 1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:49.120 How much do they believe in Beckton? That's what it 1:29:49.120 --> 1:29:53.240 comes out. YEA. I might call the Jets immediately go, hey, 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:55.680 what do you want for Beckton? Yeah? Absolutely, that'd be fun. 1:29:55.760 --> 1:29:58.360 That's a real conversation. It's it's a very similar idea 1:29:58.479 --> 1:30:01.080 to Jacksonville is like, well, you invested this huge pick 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:04.720 and this kid didn't have a wonderful rookie season, Like, 1:30:04.800 --> 1:30:06.519 don't you want to help him as much as you can? 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.880 But I mean, Robert Sale is a defensive guy, Like, 1:30:09.960 --> 1:30:13.519 I completely understand if if Gardner's the pick. I'll tell 1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:16.439 you what the thing is. Let's be you're you're talking 1:30:16.479 --> 1:30:18.599 about the Jets right now, there's panic going on in 1:30:18.600 --> 1:30:21.599 the in the Giants war room because they might be 1:30:21.680 --> 1:30:24.080 losing their Their plan was they were going to get 1:30:24.080 --> 1:30:26.599 one of these corners. So all of a sudden, you're 1:30:26.640 --> 1:30:29.439 taking you're talking about taking Sauce Gardner off the board 1:30:29.479 --> 1:30:32.360 for them. Now it turns into okay, does this where 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:34.160 we see Tibodeau, This where we see one of those 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:37.599 offensive tackles. Maybe Cowboys two point zero from last year. Yeah, one, 1:30:37.800 --> 1:30:40.439 and Sir Tam went off. I don't know what happens 1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:42.599 at six. When I was running through the mock earlier 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:44.800 today before I drove over here, I was looking at 1:30:44.800 --> 1:30:47.599 it and with me assuming Stingley and Sauce went back 1:30:47.600 --> 1:30:51.280 to back, I had Ikey here and then I had 1:30:51.320 --> 1:30:54.360 Thibodeau at seven. But like I mean, I texted you guys. 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:55.920 Right when I walked in here, I was getting buzz 1:30:55.960 --> 1:31:00.000 from people that they're going nine. Look more around nine. Tibodau, 1:31:00.200 --> 1:31:02.599 that's for that's a Seattle. So I wonder if Tibodau. 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:04.200 I don't know who the Giants will go get at 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:06.360 that point, because I would think Brian'll have the corner. 1:31:06.880 --> 1:31:09.559 Brian always says this about Cincinnati, like, oh, they'll take 1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:12.479 it like Seattle's in that category. Seattle, they'll stop the 1:31:12.520 --> 1:31:15.080 slide on a guy like yeah, my guy, John Snyder's 1:31:15.080 --> 1:31:18.280 had some bad drafts, you know, Johnson. There's some pressure 1:31:18.320 --> 1:31:20.360 going on up there now. They're starting to question what 1:31:20.479 --> 1:31:22.920 John's players are. But if you know, you look at 1:31:22.920 --> 1:31:25.120 the metrics, they say they've had great drafts. But it 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:27.599 was great drafts when they were when they picked Russell 1:31:27.640 --> 1:31:30.080 Wilson and that whole crew that they've all got rid of. 1:31:30.160 --> 1:31:32.960 Now get lucky on detail met cat Tyler Lockett pops 1:31:33.040 --> 1:31:35.280 up too. So that's why I you know, I kind 1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:38.160 of feel like though that the Jets here, like I 1:31:38.240 --> 1:31:41.439 said it should, the picks should be an offensive lineman here. 1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:45.639 I mean again, you're investing in your you know, the 1:31:45.680 --> 1:31:48.719 general manager up there. I mean for going four years now. 1:31:49.040 --> 1:31:51.080 There's gonna be a point in time whe they say enough, 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:53.439 you know, I mean, we've got to figure out what's 1:31:53.479 --> 1:31:55.920 going on here. Yeah, and we chiefs can't letting you 1:31:56.000 --> 1:31:59.200 keep picking players and none of this, no no success. 1:31:59.680 --> 1:32:01.519 So I think there's a little pressure up there to 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:04.640 you pick this quarterback last year, find a way to 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:07.080 protect him, get him weapons, whatever you have to do, 1:32:07.200 --> 1:32:09.920 make that happen. He's Brian brought us. We've got David Hellman, 1:32:10.000 --> 1:32:12.760 Kyle Gellman's Bobby belt. I'm Sean treef here on one 1:32:12.800 --> 1:32:15.880 oh five three of the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot 1:32:15.880 --> 1:32:20.000 Com Trayvon Walker to Jacksonville at one we go with 1:32:20.080 --> 1:32:23.439 another defensive ent, Aiden Hutchinson to the Lions at two 1:32:24.000 --> 1:32:29.360 Stingley Junior to the Texans the LSU corner at three, 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:32.720 Jets are on the clock, followed by two of the 1:32:32.720 --> 1:32:35.879 next three picks coming from New York with the Giants 1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:39.440 at five and seven, and will Carolina take a quarterback 1:32:39.720 --> 1:32:42.320 at number six? So here we go. This feels like 1:32:42.320 --> 1:32:45.320 it's moving moving kind of fast right now. Right now, 1:32:45.320 --> 1:32:47.240 I'm rooting for brought Us has put it in my head. 1:32:47.280 --> 1:32:50.599 I'm rooting for Sauce Gardner to go to the Jets. 1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:53.920 I just want, Yeah, if you're a Cowboy fan and 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:55.880 you want to see the division, they're still gonna get 1:32:55.960 --> 1:32:58.160 two really good players. In my books, see that's you. 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:00.479 You can't you might get my number one one player. 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:03.080 You can't completely screw the Giants because they'll either get 1:33:03.080 --> 1:33:05.360 a corner or a tackle and they'll be thrilled about that. 1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:08.960 I'd rather deal with having to go around Ikey Aquanu 1:33:09.040 --> 1:33:13.519 than having to throw against a man. Does everyone think 1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:16.599 that Ikey is the best offensive lineman? And I have 1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:21.479 cross I have crosses cross from Mississippi State. Okay, um, 1:33:21.760 --> 1:33:24.080 I don't. I don't have strong opinions about these things. 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:28.000 I like, I like Aquan No, I just these guys 1:33:28.080 --> 1:33:31.080 make boards. I just learn about the players and let 1:33:31.120 --> 1:33:33.880 the teams decide. But I would take a Quantu over 1:33:33.960 --> 1:33:37.160 Neil Okay, Yeahquan is my number one two Bobby, I 1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:41.120 would take a QUANTU and crossover Neil Aquan and crossover Neil. See, 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:44.080 there's things when you got to learn about these Alabama players. 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:46.880 A lot of wear and tear on their bodies. They play. 1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:49.040 They play in a lot of these games, a lot 1:33:49.120 --> 1:33:52.439 of physical, tough games in the SEC. They're in playoff games. 1:33:52.439 --> 1:33:55.320 It's almost like Lebron James in a second career with 1:33:55.479 --> 1:33:58.240 playoff games that you put three or four years on 1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:01.639 his career from playing extra games. And they could say 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:04.040 a lot about these linebackers and stuff like that that 1:34:04.439 --> 1:34:08.280 you know with Alabama, these defensive lineman's a secondary and stuff, 1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:11.120 hard practices with Nick Sabe and a lot of wear 1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:12.800 and tear on those guys. And that's what they're talking 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:16.120 about with Neil mammoth guy, maybe some wear and tear 1:34:16.160 --> 1:34:19.360 on that body. How did these two corners stack up 1:34:19.400 --> 1:34:21.800 against you know, last year was a disappointing season for 1:34:21.880 --> 1:34:26.360 the shirt thing with Akuda in Detroit. Yeah, how how 1:34:26.439 --> 1:34:30.280 do those guys all line up. That's I'm sorry, but no, 1:34:30.360 --> 1:34:33.200 that's a good question. I think I would have see 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:35.720 Stanley so much upside, whereas Sauce, I think is something 1:34:35.760 --> 1:34:38.280 you can feel really good about. Um, I'd have Sauce 1:34:38.320 --> 1:34:42.320 and Stanley maybe a little behind Horn for me. Here's 1:34:42.360 --> 1:34:47.760 the pick from the New York Jets. We're the worth 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:52.240 pick in the twenty twenty two NFL draft. The New 1:34:52.320 --> 1:35:00.559 York Jets select Sauce. Skirt down for you, it is open. 1:35:01.840 --> 1:35:03.320 It's back up now because I gave you the next 1:35:03.360 --> 1:35:05.280 like two or three picks that have thought. Bobby Swag 1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:07.559 coming up in. He's coming in hot his first draft. 1:35:07.640 --> 1:35:09.840 He's four four. I gotta say, I'm so glad we 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:12.240 can Dame Burglar just showed up. I'm so glad we 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:17.519 can talk about him right now, because don't say that 1:35:17.600 --> 1:35:23.759 because we got two you're out of here. Sauce. Sauce 1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:27.760 was training in Frisco, UH since January, and he is 1:35:27.880 --> 1:35:32.040 just that the nickname fits. They talked about over at 1:35:32.120 --> 1:35:34.800 Exos UH, Brent Callaway and some of the people that 1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:37.559 he just he upped the level of competition for everybody training. 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:41.120 Is he is he running up here? Is he late Uh, 1:35:41.439 --> 1:35:44.120 there's a running up here, so there he is. Uh, 1:35:44.280 --> 1:35:48.599 Sauce Gardener, I put the room was far away from room. 1:35:48.720 --> 1:35:51.640 They have been all the way back, and it's a 1:35:51.800 --> 1:35:54.160 long water. Was it Philadelphia when they used to make 1:35:54.240 --> 1:35:56.519 these guys they had to walk down a staircase to 1:35:56.560 --> 1:35:58.360 get to the state. I thought that was the stupidest thing. 1:35:58.479 --> 1:36:01.200 Let's get to the New York Giant ants on the clock. 1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:03.240 Let's get it rolling with the NFC east on one 1:36:03.280 --> 1:36:05.759 oh five through the fan of Dallas Cowboys Radio Network, 1:36:16.560 --> 1:36:19.639 all right, and our Dallas Cowboys dot Com crew sticking 1:36:19.720 --> 1:36:22.920 with us off the entire night, no commercial breaks. As 1:36:23.080 --> 1:36:26.599 Sauce Gardner goes to the New York Jets at number four. 1:36:26.840 --> 1:36:29.400 So we went back to back d ns, back to 1:36:29.479 --> 1:36:34.400 back corners. Hey, positional value. People absolutely loving that. Get 1:36:34.439 --> 1:36:37.120 to the pass rusher. When was the cornerback market going 1:36:37.160 --> 1:36:39.400 to catch up with the wide receiver market in this offseason? 1:36:39.680 --> 1:36:45.479 And now corners Dave Hellman are being targeted? Yeah, unintended point. 1:36:46.240 --> 1:36:48.400 You probably don't want to target these guys too much. Although, 1:36:48.479 --> 1:36:50.000 to go back to what we were saying, though, like 1:36:50.360 --> 1:36:54.519 I also think Gardner, I think he's in more of 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:57.680 a position of success, like the Jets have more to 1:36:57.800 --> 1:37:03.280 work with on their defense right now than the Texans right, Um? Probably, yeah, 1:37:03.720 --> 1:37:06.320 I mean they got um like, who's the Who's who's 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:08.040 the guy that how fast? You can name them? No 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:11.080 good point? Who's who's the guy that got hurt? Last year? 1:37:11.120 --> 1:37:12.720 They have a pass rusher that got hurt, like he 1:37:12.760 --> 1:37:16.400 didn't get to play. Gosh, what is his name? Wonderful radio? 1:37:16.479 --> 1:37:18.320 Just fine? Well, this is why it's on the dot 1:37:18.360 --> 1:37:22.479 com side, David that guy's name. Um, I'm blanking on 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:24.240 it too. I just know how bad the Texans are. 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:26.880 That's why the Jets are good. I'm saying the Texans 1:37:26.920 --> 1:37:29.200 are terrible. Every guy could name more than five members 1:37:29.280 --> 1:37:30.800 one of one of my one of my favorites, not 1:37:30.880 --> 1:37:32.400 maybe not even one of the day. One of my 1:37:32.479 --> 1:37:36.639 favorite interactions with Sauce, Carl Lawson. They got Carl Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:37:36.640 --> 1:37:44.080 they have c J. Mosley h yes, so so teams. 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:47.120 NFL teams send out to just about everybody in college. 1:37:47.160 --> 1:37:50.080 They'll send out these questionnaires like just like general like 1:37:50.280 --> 1:37:53.720 you know, almost like many wonder licks like teams send 1:37:53.760 --> 1:37:56.759 him out to everybody. When when I first met Sauce, 1:37:56.840 --> 1:38:00.040 and he found out, like I cover around here, and 1:38:00.120 --> 1:38:01.840 he was like, can you do me a favor? I 1:38:02.000 --> 1:38:04.120 was like sure, and he's like, next time you're you're 1:38:04.160 --> 1:38:05.920 around the people, the cowboys, can you just let him 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:08.280 know I didn't like the questions. He's like, he's like, 1:38:08.320 --> 1:38:10.120 I had to give one answer. He's like a lot 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:12.479 of these, Like I'd get a question for the answers 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:14.439 would fit me. He's like, just tell them that if 1:38:14.439 --> 1:38:15.960 they didn't like any of my answers, it's because I 1:38:16.000 --> 1:38:20.920 didn't know what to pick. That yowl that's in two 1:38:20.960 --> 1:38:22.720 seconds of meeting him. He's like, wait, so you're rather 1:38:22.760 --> 1:38:24.840 like him. That's his personality. But I mean he's great, 1:38:24.920 --> 1:38:28.040 he's he's that would drop Thibadeau down to fifteen though, 1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:30.200 that that type of swag, that type of yeah, and 1:38:30.439 --> 1:38:32.040 and and to be clear, it wasn't an issue with 1:38:32.080 --> 1:38:34.240 the question himselves. He didn't like the unlimited I can't 1:38:34.560 --> 1:38:36.840 it's I want to combine two answers. That's my answer. 1:38:36.880 --> 1:38:39.840 Look at that necklace. He's got a couple of them off. Yeah, 1:38:39.880 --> 1:38:44.599 he's got a sauce bottle. I think, yeah, maybe he's 1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:48.439 got a little bit Tabasco sponsorship. Here. So there you 1:38:48.520 --> 1:38:52.439 go with the highest drafted corner list up there with 1:38:52.840 --> 1:38:58.360 Derek Stanley, Jeff Acuta, Sean Springs, Bruce Pickens nineteen ninety one, 1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:01.680 and a mad Gardener. So there we go with all 1:39:01.720 --> 1:39:04.360 those guys going as the third overall pick, and then 1:39:04.680 --> 1:39:08.599 Sauce going with the fourth. So the New York Giants 1:39:08.800 --> 1:39:12.760 are now on the clock at five and seven, first 1:39:12.800 --> 1:39:15.800 of four hundred first round picks in the NFC. I 1:39:15.840 --> 1:39:19.760 wouldn't be surprised. Again, and talking to their guys last night, 1:39:20.280 --> 1:39:22.719 I wouldn't be surprised. I think they like Charles Cross 1:39:22.800 --> 1:39:26.400 Mississippi State a lot. I think they do wow, And 1:39:26.640 --> 1:39:29.880 I could be. I could be really just they were 1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:32.640 they were hunting these tackles. They were talking about these 1:39:32.720 --> 1:39:36.040 tackles a quantum. I've got Cross higher on my board. 1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:39.120 They might not, but I just because they were asking me, 1:39:39.240 --> 1:39:41.519 and I was doing stuff with their website before and 1:39:41.560 --> 1:39:43.559 they're asking me about Cross a lot of that stuff, 1:39:43.600 --> 1:39:46.200 and I'm like, yeah, it's my one of my favorite players, 1:39:46.280 --> 1:39:48.200 you know, my favorite players in the in the draft 1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:50.960 and stuff, So this could be the tackle. And then 1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:53.160 they turn around and they and this is where you 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:55.840 could you could very well get your thibadeau to go 1:39:56.320 --> 1:39:59.880 with that pick at seven. Guess is a court Johnson, Florida. 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:02.960 And if they don't trade out of I think a 1:40:03.040 --> 1:40:05.000 quantu goes here. And if Carolina doesn't trade out, I 1:40:05.040 --> 1:40:07.000 think they go cross. I just what if what if 1:40:07.040 --> 1:40:09.120 they flip flopped it? Though? Because you're looking at five 1:40:09.200 --> 1:40:11.920 and seven here and all three tackles are on the board. 1:40:12.120 --> 1:40:14.280 What if they went with an edge rusher first and 1:40:14.320 --> 1:40:16.000 then you wait for one of those guys to fall. 1:40:16.120 --> 1:40:19.439 You could actually do that. Maybe you're only two picks away. 1:40:19.520 --> 1:40:21.439 But but this is this is the thing that I 1:40:21.520 --> 1:40:23.720 think people forget about a lot is like that makes 1:40:23.800 --> 1:40:27.439 perfect sense outside, don't worry about it. Well, inside those 1:40:27.520 --> 1:40:31.120 war rooms, people are like, no, cross as a beast 1:40:31.200 --> 1:40:33.439 and that guy sucks. We're not They're not the same, 1:40:33.680 --> 1:40:36.800 right yea, Like they might have vastly different opinions point 1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:39.080 or maybe they are clustered on the board. We just 1:40:39.320 --> 1:40:40.920 we don't know that. But a lot of times, like 1:40:41.439 --> 1:40:43.360 you'll have these conversations where it's like, well you had 1:40:43.720 --> 1:40:45.760 you had four guys and they're like, no, we had 1:40:45.800 --> 1:40:47.960 one guy, Like we don't think that highly of the 1:40:48.000 --> 1:40:50.799 other three. All Right, Goodell's walking up to the podium 1:40:51.160 --> 1:40:55.439 with the New York Giants selection. For the New York 1:40:55.520 --> 1:41:01.240 Giants pick, I'm joined by Sam Prince along Giants fan 1:41:01.840 --> 1:41:14.200 and make a wish. Kid. All Right, we're back with 1:41:14.280 --> 1:41:18.120 the New York Giants selection. On the clock. Sam is 1:41:18.240 --> 1:41:22.479 postcard transplant and feeling stronger than ever. As you can 1:41:22.560 --> 1:41:33.439 see tonight, his wish to announce the Giants first pick 1:41:34.120 --> 1:41:37.840 comes true. We hope this wish will be a turning 1:41:37.920 --> 1:41:40.560 point for Sam as he looks forward to being a 1:41:40.640 --> 1:41:45.200 sports broadcaster in the future. He brought us to take 1:41:45.280 --> 1:41:48.760 my spot. Okay, Sam's it's time to get your wish true. Baby, 1:41:49.040 --> 1:41:56.720 Thank you, mister Goodell. With a fifth pick in the 1:41:56.800 --> 1:42:00.719 twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the New York Ball Giants, 1:42:00.880 --> 1:42:07.960 Black Cavon Tibodeau. There I go in this room. Cavon 1:42:08.120 --> 1:42:12.519 Thibodeau was the top player on three boards. Brian brought us, 1:42:12.640 --> 1:42:15.639 Dave Hellman and Kyle Yellman had to play him twice 1:42:15.640 --> 1:42:18.600 a year now, and you were saying, maybe they're not 1:42:18.720 --> 1:42:21.280 going to freak out with Sauce Gardner going to the 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:23.479 New York Jets. Why do you love Thibodau so much. Yeah, 1:42:23.479 --> 1:42:25.360 I'll tell you what I just feel like though, when 1:42:25.400 --> 1:42:29.080 you watch this guy play, he puts so much pressure 1:42:29.760 --> 1:42:32.720 on those blockers, those tackles and stuff. You know. I 1:42:32.800 --> 1:42:35.080 mean to me, when you know he gets that corner, 1:42:35.600 --> 1:42:37.439 he's going to find a way to dip it and 1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:41.080 he's going to finish at the quarterback. He's an explosive player. 1:42:41.560 --> 1:42:44.040 He I think when you watch him run, I mean, 1:42:44.120 --> 1:42:47.200 he could cover a lot of ground. He's not one 1:42:47.200 --> 1:42:50.000 of those guys you see him get like pushed past 1:42:50.120 --> 1:42:52.680 the quarterback and all none. I mean, he's not going 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:54.599 to be on the ground at all too. I mean, 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:56.960 he is going to play on his feet. He's got 1:42:57.040 --> 1:43:01.080 the redirection skills. There's some snap, there's some violence when 1:43:01.120 --> 1:43:03.720 he hits his opponent. You see the heavy hands and 1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:06.280 you just see the blocker kind of stopping his tracks 1:43:06.400 --> 1:43:08.719 right there. But and he gets a lot of double 1:43:08.800 --> 1:43:12.080 teams in the pack twelve, and he's able to handle 1:43:12.160 --> 1:43:14.240 that at six four two fifty four. I love the 1:43:14.280 --> 1:43:16.479 way this guy rushes the passer. He's got the pass 1:43:16.560 --> 1:43:19.360 rush ability, he's got the size, the explosiveness to get 1:43:19.400 --> 1:43:21.360 off at the line of scrimmage. And we mentioned earlier 1:43:21.400 --> 1:43:24.200 with number one overall pick Trayvon Walker. In the way 1:43:24.240 --> 1:43:27.320 that he run or he defends the run, he's able 1:43:27.360 --> 1:43:31.000 to go sideline the sideline with a latter rollability. Thibadeau 1:43:31.120 --> 1:43:34.040 is a hunter on the run. And yes he's got 1:43:34.080 --> 1:43:36.719 the tackle for lost numbers, he's got the sack numbers. 1:43:36.760 --> 1:43:39.760 But he's not necessarily just a one trick pony. He's 1:43:39.800 --> 1:43:42.040 gonna do a lot of things for that Giant's defense 1:43:42.520 --> 1:43:45.439 to take them to another level to where they haven't 1:43:45.479 --> 1:43:47.800 been in a long time. And Kyle, your scenarios in 1:43:47.920 --> 1:43:50.320 play now too, like they I mean, they are gonna 1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:53.840 have pick again probably and one more pick and an 1:43:53.920 --> 1:43:56.880 offensive tackle will be there if they like a guy. Yep, 1:43:57.120 --> 1:43:59.400 all right, they're gonna have two offensive tackles there since 1:43:59.439 --> 1:44:02.200 they took the rush at the very at the very least. Yeah, 1:44:02.400 --> 1:44:07.400 this is probably the most or second most intriguing pick 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:10.400 in the top ten because this is where people think 1:44:10.479 --> 1:44:13.479 the quarterback could go. And if a quarterback doesn't go here, 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:16.000 then we may fall all the way to twenty. The 1:44:16.080 --> 1:44:18.640 Carolina Panthers are on the clock. Are you sweating a 1:44:18.680 --> 1:44:20.800 little bit right now? I'm not he's not the one 1:44:20.840 --> 1:44:23.519 that You're not the one that's got the shot color. 1:44:23.640 --> 1:44:26.599 Those are Those are my pinisters and my co host 1:44:26.680 --> 1:44:29.240 on one oh five, three of the fans, j RJ 1:44:29.479 --> 1:44:32.080 is going through it right now. RJ's like, I need this, 1:44:32.360 --> 1:44:34.760 I need this is to take Kenny pick. This is 1:44:34.800 --> 1:44:36.519 make or break for him. RJ was being a little 1:44:36.560 --> 1:44:38.040 weird though, when I was in Studio three. I'll remember 1:44:38.040 --> 1:44:40.200 because like I enjoy a little pain. It's like, okay, 1:44:41.720 --> 1:44:45.439 shot cut is a Wednesday night for him. But uh, 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:48.280 could they take an offensive tackle here? I would think 1:44:48.280 --> 1:44:51.160 if they stand in man, if they stand in offensive tackle, 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:52.360 I would think, if you want to go a quarterback, 1:44:52.400 --> 1:44:53.720 just trade back of these spots. Let don't want to 1:44:53.760 --> 1:44:55.240 come up to get the tackle. Pick up some extra 1:44:55.320 --> 1:44:57.519 capital you need. Pick the next pick after this is 1:44:57.520 --> 1:44:59.679 one thirty. I'm gonna say they don't pick again until 1:44:59.720 --> 1:45:02.680 SA Day, and they need they need players. There's no 1:45:02.800 --> 1:45:05.840 way they should be making this pick with If Carolina 1:45:06.200 --> 1:45:09.080 would pick a quarterback at six, why aren't we talking 1:45:09.200 --> 1:45:13.160 more about the New York Giants taking a quarterback at five? 1:45:13.360 --> 1:45:17.240 They declined Daniel Jones fifth year option. Today, someone answered 1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:20.800 that because honestly, if you if you really want me 1:45:20.840 --> 1:45:23.400 to answer that, I think it's because Carolina is a 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:29.200 freaking mess man. Yeah, Like there, Carolina's owner is like 1:45:29.400 --> 1:45:31.880 what people accuse Jerry Jones of being just in the 1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:35.479 sense of like being overly involved and not knowing what 1:45:35.560 --> 1:45:37.880 he wants. I mean, they traded for Darnold, they got 1:45:37.960 --> 1:45:41.280 sick of that real quick. They chased after Deshaun Watson 1:45:41.360 --> 1:45:43.800 for a year, didn't get him, Like they don't know 1:45:43.880 --> 1:45:45.680 what they're doing, or at least they sure as hell 1:45:45.720 --> 1:45:47.880 don't seem like that. I think there's a disconnect between 1:45:47.920 --> 1:45:50.120 the general manager and the head coach, and I think 1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:52.439 the general manager he's like, I'm I'm ready to move 1:45:52.520 --> 1:45:55.080 on from this guy, and he didn't hire the guy Nope, 1:45:55.080 --> 1:45:56.760 but he's going to let him do what he wants 1:45:56.800 --> 1:46:00.360 to do. So I'm seeing some of that Thibodeaus. Now 1:46:00.400 --> 1:46:02.680 you guys are talking about if you don't when you're 1:46:02.680 --> 1:46:04.439 asking the question of like why aren't the Giants talking 1:46:04.479 --> 1:46:06.439 about it, I think the difference is the Giants have picks. 1:46:06.600 --> 1:46:08.320 Like the Giants can get somebody in the second round. 1:46:08.320 --> 1:46:09.920 They can get it like Panthers right now, It's like, 1:46:09.920 --> 1:46:11.760 we get a quarterback, now we wait till the fourth round. 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:14.599 I also think the Giants just put a new structure 1:46:14.640 --> 1:46:16.360 in place, right, Like they got a new GM and 1:46:16.439 --> 1:46:19.160 a new coach. Nobody is getting fired if they suck 1:46:19.280 --> 1:46:21.479 or if Daniel Jones is bad, they can worry about 1:46:21.560 --> 1:46:24.759 quarterback next year. Everybody's out on there. But if Carolina 1:46:24.840 --> 1:46:27.680 doesn't do something which leads to stupid decision. Who thinks 1:46:27.720 --> 1:46:30.080 the Panthers are going to draft a quarterback here? I 1:46:30.160 --> 1:46:32.120 think they trade out. I think they either trade out 1:46:32.160 --> 1:46:34.080 or draft a tackle. Honestly, I think they're going to 1:46:34.160 --> 1:46:36.160 pick a tackle. What self? Now, if they pick a quarterback, 1:46:36.200 --> 1:46:39.320 who is it? Kenney Pickett's pick it? So he's the 1:46:39.400 --> 1:46:41.439 closest they made the pick. He's the closest thing to 1:46:41.479 --> 1:46:43.519 a Day one Wow. So they didn't trade out, they 1:46:43.560 --> 1:46:46.559 did pick. Does Matt Rule? How much influence is Matt 1:46:46.680 --> 1:46:50.160 Rule have here? When everyone thinks he's got one foot 1:46:50.200 --> 1:46:53.240 out the door? Yee is he's saying, don't draft me? 1:46:53.720 --> 1:46:57.040 I don't. I don't want a rookie starter, kind of 1:46:57.400 --> 1:47:01.759 like Nage in Chicago, Like, hey, Dustin Fields, it's exciting, 1:47:02.080 --> 1:47:03.760 but I'm gonna get run out of here when he 1:47:03.760 --> 1:47:06.639 struggles his rookie year. Yeah, the whispers are that Scott Federer, 1:47:06.760 --> 1:47:10.840 the general manager there, is basically saying, hey, fine, take 1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:14.440 who you want, and if it doesn't work, then ownership 1:47:14.600 --> 1:47:16.360 is going to do. You know, they're gonna move on 1:47:16.720 --> 1:47:18.800 and then Scott can go hire the guy that he 1:47:18.960 --> 1:47:21.639 wants to hire, you know, and then you know, because 1:47:21.760 --> 1:47:24.400 that that guy has a lot of power in Carolina. 1:47:24.680 --> 1:47:26.840 I mean, you talk about personnel power and all that, 1:47:27.120 --> 1:47:29.599 So you know, maybe it's one of those things where 1:47:29.760 --> 1:47:31.800 you know, fine, you want to get a quarterback and 1:47:32.000 --> 1:47:33.880 he doesn't play in the first year and you don't develop, 1:47:33.960 --> 1:47:37.160 and then you're gonna get fired. So I me, personally, 1:47:37.240 --> 1:47:38.880 I would find a way to take it. If you 1:47:38.880 --> 1:47:41.080 don't have a the surest thing on this board right 1:47:41.160 --> 1:47:44.160 now is an offensive tackle, whether it's and you don't 1:47:44.160 --> 1:47:47.080 want if you're not picking for like one hundred more picks, 1:47:47.640 --> 1:47:49.880 you know, figure out who the safest player on this 1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:52.840 board is and work from there. Not only that, what's 1:47:53.040 --> 1:47:55.840 what's can he pick? It gonna even do without some help? 1:47:56.120 --> 1:47:58.559 I mean maybe you know, maybe Sam Arnold held there. 1:47:59.520 --> 1:48:03.639 Why d J. Moore receivers I was thinking more along 1:48:03.640 --> 1:48:06.120 the offensive. Their offensive line's not very good. I think 1:48:06.160 --> 1:48:09.320 I'd rather try to get better results from Sam Darnold 1:48:09.360 --> 1:48:11.720 with a better line than think Kenney Pickett's gonna be 1:48:11.760 --> 1:48:15.240 an improvement. Child Treeve, Kyle Yemen's Bobby, Bob Bryan brought 1:48:15.320 --> 1:48:18.160 us and Dave Hellman. The Carolina Panthers are on the clock. 1:48:18.720 --> 1:48:22.639 Is there anyone that loves Picket enough that you heard 1:48:22.680 --> 1:48:26.240 about to move up and have Carolina moved back? Does 1:48:26.280 --> 1:48:28.880 anyone think that Picket or Willis are worthy of the 1:48:28.960 --> 1:48:31.240 number six pick? I think I think it goes back 1:48:31.280 --> 1:48:33.200 to Bobby. I'm right there with you, is the fact 1:48:33.240 --> 1:48:35.880 that these teams don't know how things are going to 1:48:35.920 --> 1:48:37.519 pan out in front of them, and they would rather 1:48:37.880 --> 1:48:41.439 with these quarterbacks sitting there just stay put. I mean, 1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:43.200 you look at the quarterbacks in the back half of 1:48:43.280 --> 1:48:45.200 the first round, or the teams in the back half 1:48:45.720 --> 1:48:48.120 of the first round that neat quarterbacks. The Steelers are 1:48:48.160 --> 1:48:51.200 in that conversation, the Saints are in that conversation. They 1:48:51.400 --> 1:48:54.000 have the ability to go up if they really want to, 1:48:54.160 --> 1:48:57.040 but they don't need to go get Malik Willis or 1:48:57.080 --> 1:48:59.240 go get a Kinny Pickett. They can sit tight and 1:48:59.400 --> 1:49:02.200 let things all of them because outside of the Panthers, 1:49:02.320 --> 1:49:04.120 there's not going to be a quarterback selected in the 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:06.720 top fifteen, or at least we don't anticipate it to be. 1:49:07.160 --> 1:49:09.479 I think I think the whole thing, and Bobby, you 1:49:09.600 --> 1:49:11.400 talk to more people around the league than I do, 1:49:11.600 --> 1:49:16.320 Like I'm way more Cowboys focused. But the whole trading 1:49:16.400 --> 1:49:19.000 up for a quarterback thing seems like manufactured to me. 1:49:19.280 --> 1:49:21.920 Like I don't think mac Jones twenty twenty one. I 1:49:21.960 --> 1:49:23.479 don't you kind of feel like teams you're feeling like 1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:26.640 they're getting burned by doing that. Now, I hope not, 1:49:26.800 --> 1:49:29.360 because the two that come to mind for me or Mahomes, 1:49:29.439 --> 1:49:32.120 And I mean Mahomes was a trade up which worked 1:49:32.120 --> 1:49:34.080 out sure amazing. I mean, if you're talking about going 1:49:34.120 --> 1:49:37.960 at the very top, yeah, no, he wasn't. The last 1:49:38.040 --> 1:49:41.040 coming way up would have been when Rams went up 1:49:41.080 --> 1:49:44.280 for golf and well the Packers, Packers went up for 1:49:44.800 --> 1:49:48.760 their guy. Well, I mean not the San Francisco went Yeah. No, 1:49:48.960 --> 1:49:51.479 I don't think teams think they're getting burned. I think 1:49:52.160 --> 1:49:54.120 you just you just gotta have a grade that makes 1:49:54.120 --> 1:49:56.840 it worth it. And I don't think I don't think 1:49:56.880 --> 1:49:59.120 a team in the league has a first round grade 1:49:59.200 --> 1:50:01.920 on a single one of these quarterbacks. I would agree 1:50:01.960 --> 1:50:04.080 with that. So that's that's what it comes down to. 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:05.800 That are just not they're not good enough to be 1:50:05.880 --> 1:50:10.360 worth that. So my co host on the fan has 1:50:11.360 --> 1:50:13.679 he won't let this go. Brought us cover your ears 1:50:14.040 --> 1:50:18.519 in terms of talking about evaluating right fifty fifty first round. 1:50:18.720 --> 1:50:21.240 So if it's fifty fifty, he says that quarterbacks are 1:50:21.280 --> 1:50:23.599 so important. I'll get back to it. Here here comes 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:26.400 the selection with Roger Goodell at the podium for Carolina. 1:50:27.280 --> 1:50:31.439 With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, 1:50:32.320 --> 1:50:40.040 the Carolina Panthers select kim Ya North Carolina State. Job fellas, 1:50:40.080 --> 1:50:41.960 it's like good for them, Like you've kind of been 1:50:42.000 --> 1:50:44.799 doing homework on this stuff born and Ray Charlotte, North Carolina. 1:50:45.280 --> 1:50:47.040 So I didn't even I mean, that makes sense. He's 1:50:47.120 --> 1:50:49.720 NC States. Stay see this to me, this is the 1:50:49.840 --> 1:50:54.360 sensible pick. You know, you're you're trying to stabilize your franchise. 1:50:54.880 --> 1:50:57.720 You know, go out offensive linemen tend in the first 1:50:57.800 --> 1:51:00.120 round tend to work out pretty well for you. You 1:51:00.200 --> 1:51:02.360 don't have a lot of picks to deal with. You know, 1:51:02.479 --> 1:51:05.040 give yourself a little momentum. You know, if you have 1:51:05.120 --> 1:51:06.920 to go back and rally, maybe you want to jump 1:51:06.960 --> 1:51:08.559 back in this draft. Maybe you want to give next 1:51:08.600 --> 1:51:11.240 year's picks or something like that to jump back in. 1:51:11.840 --> 1:51:13.920 But you have to you have to give this thing 1:51:14.080 --> 1:51:17.040 some stability. And you know, quarterback if he goes in 1:51:17.120 --> 1:51:20.280 there and flops around, everybody's gonna get fired. Yeah, you know, 1:51:20.400 --> 1:51:22.200 this guy is one of those things. I think you 1:51:22.280 --> 1:51:24.280 could agree on that he is one of the best. 1:51:24.560 --> 1:51:26.880 He's one of the best five players in this draft. Yep. 1:51:27.040 --> 1:51:29.679 I think New York and Carolina got a phoebe feeling 1:51:29.720 --> 1:51:32.200 like they made out like bandits right now. In my opinion, 1:51:32.880 --> 1:51:35.400 especially in New York, knowing that they're about they'll probably 1:51:35.439 --> 1:51:37.120 take their offensive tackle here. If I had to get 1:51:37.240 --> 1:51:39.280 going back to what Brian said earlier, they felt good 1:51:39.280 --> 1:51:42.519 about Charles Cross right there. They didn't get him off 1:51:42.560 --> 1:51:44.200 the board, and even if they did, they would have 1:51:44.280 --> 1:51:46.120 had it. He could want it right there as well. 1:51:46.280 --> 1:51:48.559 Now you got to worry about the Giants taking Cross here. 1:51:48.720 --> 1:51:51.400 Tell us a little bit more about a Quanu because 1:51:51.520 --> 1:51:54.000 you loved him, Kyle, I do. I love Aquanu and 1:51:54.040 --> 1:51:56.599 you talk about the biggest bully. I said that early 1:51:56.680 --> 1:52:00.080 on biggest bully in college football this past year, and 1:52:00.320 --> 1:52:02.320 brought Us laid it out perfectly a minute ago. He 1:52:02.360 --> 1:52:05.840 earned that spot on reputation as a pure finisher. He's 1:52:05.880 --> 1:52:08.040 on the edge. He improved throughout his career and he's 1:52:08.080 --> 1:52:11.240 got such a powerful lower half. He's got those clamps 1:52:11.280 --> 1:52:14.320 for hands, he's got long arms, he's almost impossible to 1:52:14.439 --> 1:52:16.880 get away from. And you also look at guys like 1:52:18.080 --> 1:52:21.360 brought Us was talking about with these tackles now falling 1:52:21.479 --> 1:52:24.519 to five and then forward, it is a safe pick 1:52:24.600 --> 1:52:26.200 in the top ten to go and get a guy 1:52:26.280 --> 1:52:29.439 like Eca mcquanu, and man, he is built for the future. 1:52:29.479 --> 1:52:31.800 He's going to be a guy I think that Carolina 1:52:31.880 --> 1:52:34.120 relies on for a long time. Let me finish up, 1:52:34.200 --> 1:52:37.679 think about Christian McCaffrey too. They still have Christian McCaffrey 1:52:37.720 --> 1:52:40.800 to be a guy that they can rely on as well. 1:52:41.320 --> 1:52:44.000 Equanu helps you in that regard. Let me finish up 1:52:44.760 --> 1:52:47.080 my co host radio point on the Cowboys flagship because 1:52:47.080 --> 1:52:49.720 I think it's an interesting thought. By the way, RJ. 1:52:49.920 --> 1:52:52.800 Choppy get ready to get the hell shocked at you 1:52:53.000 --> 1:52:55.680 and we were all rooty for that next week, so 1:52:55.880 --> 1:52:57.800 right now, not looking good for RJ with the shot 1:52:57.840 --> 1:53:01.080 caller bet His point is, if we really, if it's 1:53:01.120 --> 1:53:04.879 all fifty fifty, you're not going anywhere without the quarterback. 1:53:05.040 --> 1:53:09.960 So take the quarterback, right, Josh Allen. We thought Josh Hylan, 1:53:10.040 --> 1:53:13.760 many people thought he was a reach. Trubisky Mahomes right, 1:53:14.000 --> 1:53:17.559 fifty fifty, so why not the value of the quarterback? 1:53:17.680 --> 1:53:21.600 Dave makes more sense for Carolina to maybe hit on 1:53:21.720 --> 1:53:25.920 that because we really don't know. I totally see the logic, 1:53:26.040 --> 1:53:28.360 and you're I mean, you're right now he's not worried 1:53:28.360 --> 1:53:32.240 about job status because Brian's right, yeah, everyone gets fired. 1:53:32.520 --> 1:53:35.400 But if you're the owner, would you would you consider 1:53:35.520 --> 1:53:38.360 that if it's fifty fifty, let's keep taking them because 1:53:38.479 --> 1:53:41.120 we go nowhere with that one. I see the logic. 1:53:41.240 --> 1:53:43.960 I mean, Dane Brugler, it's one of my favorite lines. 1:53:44.000 --> 1:53:46.200 When you talk about draft prep is like draft quarterback, 1:53:46.240 --> 1:53:49.000 it's a lottery ticket, like and if you hit it yere, 1:53:49.040 --> 1:53:51.240 then you're in the NFL's elite for like eight to 1:53:51.400 --> 1:53:56.240 fifteen years. I get it. I just I don't think 1:53:56.280 --> 1:53:58.439 there's a prod like you still got to do the 1:53:58.560 --> 1:54:01.080 work and make the gray and trust it right, Like, 1:54:01.880 --> 1:54:04.240 there isn't a guy in this class that even is 1:54:04.320 --> 1:54:06.960 on the level of I mean Mahomes and Alan, Like 1:54:07.120 --> 1:54:10.200 the talent was evident, you know it. I mean it 1:54:10.320 --> 1:54:12.240 was there, they had the tools. Yeah, I mean with 1:54:12.320 --> 1:54:14.439 a like Kenny Pickett, We're sitting here saying like, oh, 1:54:14.520 --> 1:54:16.320 he probably needs to go to a warm weather city 1:54:16.400 --> 1:54:18.799 so he can hold the ball, and like his decision 1:54:18.880 --> 1:54:21.840 making isn't great. Malik Willis, like, does he understand pro 1:54:22.240 --> 1:54:27.639 offense is well enough where he'll be able to play quickly? Ritter? 1:54:28.160 --> 1:54:31.600 I think, like, I think Ritter could probably start for 1:54:31.680 --> 1:54:33.800 the right team, but is there enough around him in 1:54:33.880 --> 1:54:36.360 Carolina to where he'd be good. I don't think RJ 1:54:36.560 --> 1:54:39.920 is crazy for making that point. I just I think it. 1:54:40.080 --> 1:54:42.480 I think it says a lot about this quarterback class 1:54:42.520 --> 1:54:44.720 that I just don't think there's a grade high enough 1:54:44.760 --> 1:54:46.600 to be worth that type of risk. It's also that 1:54:46.680 --> 1:54:49.600 thought process that we had early on about overthinking things. 1:54:50.400 --> 1:54:52.800 When we were first doing this homework, we were first 1:54:52.840 --> 1:54:55.120 getting to the point of looking at this quarterback class. 1:54:55.520 --> 1:54:57.520 We were looking at these guys and saying, Hey, where 1:54:57.640 --> 1:55:01.040 we don't have any of these guys in the top round. Really, 1:55:01.440 --> 1:55:04.080 they were not the same level of talent from a 1:55:04.160 --> 1:55:06.880 quarterback standpoint as we've seen in the past. Yet they're 1:55:06.920 --> 1:55:09.160 still being talked about his potential top ten picks at 1:55:09.200 --> 1:55:11.240 that position. I brought us set us up for what 1:55:11.400 --> 1:55:13.640 the Giants could be thinking here with their second pick 1:55:13.680 --> 1:55:15.600 in the first Yeah, this is to me, this is 1:55:15.640 --> 1:55:17.480 either going to be it's it's either gonna be one 1:55:17.480 --> 1:55:20.720 of these offensive tackles. They haven't been able to fix 1:55:20.800 --> 1:55:23.800 the offense and that's the that's been the problem. And 1:55:23.840 --> 1:55:28.120 they've thrown money. They've thrown money at their offense. Yeah, 1:55:28.240 --> 1:55:30.520 you know, and you know, the flowers and all that. 1:55:30.640 --> 1:55:32.760 They've had some problems. Here we go, let's see if 1:55:32.800 --> 1:55:35.360 the Giants go up front again, this time on the 1:55:35.560 --> 1:55:40.560 offensive side of the ball. In the twenty twenty two 1:55:40.720 --> 1:55:47.800 NFL Draft, the New York Giants selected Evan Neil Alabama. 1:55:49.200 --> 1:55:51.800 Nice job, Ryan. They were looking, you know, like I said, 1:55:51.840 --> 1:55:53.920 they were looking offensive tackle, and I and I and 1:55:54.080 --> 1:55:57.320 I was visited with them about Neil. They're looking for 1:55:57.400 --> 1:56:00.680 a real right tackle. That that's that was something that 1:56:00.920 --> 1:56:03.560 was pretty you know, pretty clear to them that they 1:56:03.720 --> 1:56:06.240 you know, they really really do like you know what 1:56:06.440 --> 1:56:09.400 they've been able to, you know, with with the other 1:56:09.480 --> 1:56:11.920 the tackle, the left tackle that they had their Andrew 1:56:12.000 --> 1:56:14.760 Thomas Thomas. Yeah, so they were looking more for a 1:56:14.880 --> 1:56:17.920 guy on the on the right side, and that's where 1:56:18.000 --> 1:56:19.920 Neil kind of fits in, I believe. So the New 1:56:20.040 --> 1:56:23.080 York Giants making some noise in the NFC East, how 1:56:23.160 --> 1:56:25.600 worried should we be about their two picks? And the 1:56:25.680 --> 1:56:28.840 Atlanta Falcons are on the clock. This is the twenty 1:56:28.920 --> 1:56:31.240 twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five three the 1:56:31.320 --> 1:56:42.280 Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. But we didn't 1:56:42.280 --> 1:56:45.840 actually go anywhere hitting on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. This 1:56:46.160 --> 1:56:48.320 this here Atlanta coming up. This is going to be 1:56:48.400 --> 1:56:51.760 the first pressure point for the guy they like, Drake London. 1:56:52.280 --> 1:56:53.880 This is gonna be the first spot where you could 1:56:53.920 --> 1:56:55.440 see n This is gonna be Lena. There's been a 1:56:55.480 --> 1:56:58.440 lot of push for Jamison Williams here. Garrett Wilson maybe 1:56:58.520 --> 1:57:00.840 two was another one that maybe could be. He's high 1:57:00.920 --> 1:57:03.400 up a lot of people's draft boards. Yeah, we'll think 1:57:03.400 --> 1:57:06.000 about the coach and where he came from. That's a 1:57:06.080 --> 1:57:08.800 Tennessee right there. Guy that the head coach there. Uh, 1:57:09.360 --> 1:57:12.240 that is now what the Falcons was a Tennessee ran 1:57:12.360 --> 1:57:15.480 the ball, physical, big you know, they played with big receivers. 1:57:16.040 --> 1:57:17.560 You know, that's where I would kind of keep an 1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:20.880 eye on whoever. You feel like the bigger receiver is, 1:57:21.080 --> 1:57:23.680 like they're the more physical guy. Let's let's get to 1:57:23.760 --> 1:57:27.760 that in a second. But my phone is these meatballs 1:57:27.800 --> 1:57:29.880 do this every year. These giants fans that I went 1:57:29.920 --> 1:57:36.000 to school with in DC. Uh, they're thrilled. Yeah, yeah, 1:57:36.560 --> 1:57:39.800 I mean, let's talk about Evan Neil ready made starter, 1:57:39.960 --> 1:57:43.400 Bryan's I mean, right tackle Andrew Thomas hasn't lived up 1:57:43.440 --> 1:57:45.280 to the hype of being a top five pick, but 1:57:45.480 --> 1:57:48.520 he's playing a lot better in what was he a 1:57:48.560 --> 1:57:51.400 twenty twenty Yeah, he played a lot better in his 1:57:51.480 --> 1:57:53.640 second season than his first. Yes he did. Um So, 1:57:53.760 --> 1:57:55.960 I mean, so you got a hell of a pair 1:57:56.000 --> 1:57:57.720 of tackles there. If you're trying to figure out how 1:57:57.760 --> 1:58:00.440 good Daniel Joe he played left tackle for Alabama. I mean, see, 1:58:00.440 --> 1:58:03.360 he's six seventies, three hundred and thirty seven pounds and 1:58:03.720 --> 1:58:06.680 he's massive, and he will surprise you how well he 1:58:06.800 --> 1:58:09.640 moves for his size. I mean it is impressive and 1:58:10.240 --> 1:58:12.280 the body control and balance us watching the A and 1:58:12.480 --> 1:58:15.160 M game. I watched A and M Old Miss, and 1:58:15.440 --> 1:58:17.800 you know, he was off balance a little bit against 1:58:18.040 --> 1:58:20.360 the Old Miss. But I'll tell you what, I'd see 1:58:20.400 --> 1:58:22.360 a guy for that big being light on his feet. 1:58:22.800 --> 1:58:24.800 He's on the two point stance all the time. So 1:58:24.920 --> 1:58:27.600 he's kind of an upright player in the way that 1:58:27.840 --> 1:58:30.080 he does. But man, he is a long armed guy 1:58:30.120 --> 1:58:33.040 and you never see rushers get on him. He's able 1:58:33.080 --> 1:58:36.920 to extend and keep those guys and his mass is 1:58:37.000 --> 1:58:40.960 what bullies the defenders like him. He leans on you 1:58:41.120 --> 1:58:43.720 the whole game. He's going to be a problem for you. 1:58:43.960 --> 1:58:46.440 He said in Indianapolis that he models his game after 1:58:46.560 --> 1:58:49.080 Tyrn Smith and Larry Allen. I mean that was that 1:58:49.200 --> 1:58:51.800 was the thing. He named two cowboys right off the 1:58:51.880 --> 1:58:55.000 bat about who he bottels his game after. And you 1:58:55.080 --> 1:58:57.400 can see that he's got some Eric Williams to him. 1:58:57.440 --> 1:59:01.160 His way he bullies people, Yeah, the old Cowboys. Dan 1:59:01.240 --> 1:59:03.960 Jimmy Jones is his uncle. Yeah, and so he's got 1:59:04.040 --> 1:59:07.040 Cowboys connections there. I'm not I'm not loving this new 1:59:07.120 --> 1:59:10.080 general manager so far. Yeah, I don't like it. He's 1:59:10.080 --> 1:59:12.240 made two good picks, bring my boy Dave, get him 1:59:12.280 --> 1:59:14.840 and back. He would have extended, he would have picked 1:59:14.920 --> 1:59:17.440 up the option on Daniel Jones today, say Quon would 1:59:17.440 --> 1:59:21.280 have gotten extended Loftis or they're already trying to get 1:59:21.320 --> 1:59:25.400 Cadarius Tonus, Cadarius Tony's butt out of town. And now 1:59:25.440 --> 1:59:27.120 they're sitting here and you guys are loving what they 1:59:27.200 --> 1:59:30.200 did at picks five and seven, not liking that. Do 1:59:30.320 --> 1:59:32.840 you guys have any background on their new GM that 1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:36.400 came over from from Buffalo? Shush, how do you say? 1:59:36.600 --> 1:59:40.880 Shown Shane Shane Shane, Yeah, Shane Shane, I don't know 1:59:41.000 --> 1:59:42.640 the guy. I mean a lot of these guys I know, 1:59:42.840 --> 1:59:45.560 but him I do not know. I know he's his 1:59:45.640 --> 1:59:48.800 background though again Buffalo, you know he's he did a 1:59:49.080 --> 1:59:51.360 really you know, Buffalo has done a nice job of 1:59:51.440 --> 1:59:54.160 with their team. How they You know, that's a physical defense, 1:59:54.240 --> 1:59:57.160 it's a physical offense. It's built for the play and 1:59:57.240 --> 1:59:58.880 the bad weather and stuff like that. So if you 1:59:59.000 --> 2:00:03.080 come from places like that, he's going into that environment 2:00:03.120 --> 2:00:04.680 where you're gonna have to play a lot of bad 2:00:04.760 --> 2:00:06.800 weather games and stuff like that. I'm not going to 2:00:06.880 --> 2:00:08.720 pretend to know a ton about him. But if he's 2:00:08.760 --> 2:00:12.560 coming from Buffalo, Brandon Bean helped build a Super Bowl 2:00:12.600 --> 2:00:15.000 team in Carolina and then went up the road to 2:00:15.040 --> 2:00:16.800 Buffalo and turned them into one of the two or 2:00:16.880 --> 2:00:19.520 three best rosters in the league. So he clearly learned 2:00:19.600 --> 2:00:21.360 some things from somebody who knew what he was doing. 2:00:21.840 --> 2:00:23.920 All Right, the Atlanta Falcons are on the clock. Here 2:00:23.960 --> 2:00:27.480 are the next picks, Atlanta, and then you're gonna have Seattle. 2:00:27.840 --> 2:00:30.120 Then you're gonna have the Jets again, and then the 2:00:30.440 --> 2:00:34.000 Commanders picking again in the NFC East. Kyle, Yeah, And 2:00:34.120 --> 2:00:36.120 with these teams coming up here in the next couple 2:00:36.200 --> 2:00:37.960 of selections, I want to go back to what Bobby 2:00:38.120 --> 2:00:40.880 was saying, Drake London could go here in the next 2:00:40.960 --> 2:00:43.480 four or five selections, because that's where the wide receiver 2:00:43.600 --> 2:00:46.560 run could begin. But we've talked about it through the 2:00:46.800 --> 2:00:50.240 entire lead up into this hour, or I guess the 2:00:50.360 --> 2:00:53.360 first hour. We talked about names that the Cowboys could 2:00:53.360 --> 2:00:56.800 trade up for. Charles Cross, Trevor Pinning, Drake London. All 2:00:56.880 --> 2:00:58.520 three of those were on the board at the moment. 2:00:58.640 --> 2:01:01.240 They're still there. So this is getting into that point 2:01:01.280 --> 2:01:02.960 where you can maybe have that conversation. Lets go to 2:01:03.000 --> 2:01:07.000 the podium with eight bick. In the twenty twenty two 2:01:07.120 --> 2:01:16.400 NFL Draft, the Atlanta Balcon select Drake London wide receiver. Okay, guys, 2:01:16.680 --> 2:01:21.840 throw that pen Brian, No, why the Cowboys are throwing 2:01:21.920 --> 2:01:24.480 that pa? Yeah, the Cowboys that this was a minefield 2:01:24.560 --> 2:01:27.080 here because I had heard Atlanta, the Jets, and of 2:01:27.080 --> 2:01:30.160 the Commanders all had Drake London as their number one receiver. Wow. Wow, 2:01:30.680 --> 2:01:34.840 I'd rather have that dream dashed at eight than have twelve. Yeah, 2:01:35.080 --> 2:01:37.440 and you're like, You're like, could it be? Maybe? It's 2:01:37.520 --> 2:01:39.680 kind of CD two point. So that's one of the 2:01:39.760 --> 2:01:42.320 I think the three higher trade up options that are 2:01:42.360 --> 2:01:45.360 now off the board. You got Cross and Penning potentially 2:01:45.400 --> 2:01:48.040 still there. I think Garrett Wilson's in that conversation too, though, 2:01:48.080 --> 2:02:01.120 So keep that in mind, all right, Bobby Bell, Cowboys insider. 2:02:01.200 --> 2:02:04.400 Brian brought us David Hellman and Kyle Yeomans from Cowboys 2:02:04.600 --> 2:02:07.960 dot Com. We are at Ford Center at the Star. 2:02:08.080 --> 2:02:11.080 I'm Sean treef and Bobby. You said, the Atlanta Falcons 2:02:11.280 --> 2:02:14.240 with this picket number eight could be an important moment 2:02:14.360 --> 2:02:17.760 in this draft. They'd take Drake London from USC. Why 2:02:17.800 --> 2:02:21.000 were you thinking that? I had heard that the Falcons 2:02:21.040 --> 2:02:22.880 had him as their top receiver, and I think, especially 2:02:22.960 --> 2:02:25.320 once Thibodeau went off the board, I thought Tibodeau was 2:02:25.320 --> 2:02:27.040 somebody who could have been in play for them at eight. 2:02:27.120 --> 2:02:28.720 But with Tibodeau off the board, it felt like this 2:02:28.880 --> 2:02:31.600 was a landmine for the Cowboys. And I think this 2:02:31.720 --> 2:02:35.200 is the first Cowboys. Yeah, they loved this guy. This 2:02:35.360 --> 2:02:37.080 is the first, I think, real frustrating pick to go 2:02:37.160 --> 2:02:39.520 off the board for them. Was he Is he the 2:02:39.600 --> 2:02:43.200 consensus number one receiver though in the draft class or 2:02:43.280 --> 2:02:45.720 on the Cowboys board draft class? No, I don't think 2:02:45.760 --> 2:02:48.760 there's a consensus, a whole lot of consensus about anything. 2:02:49.720 --> 2:02:52.120 A lot of teams had him number one, though, I 2:02:52.200 --> 2:02:54.640 think I think I had heard Atlanta, the Jets, and 2:02:54.680 --> 2:02:57.400 the Commanders all had him as one little little Calvin 2:02:57.520 --> 2:03:01.200 Ridley replacement. Here, different type of it's a different type 2:03:01.200 --> 2:03:03.080 of player. But I mean, they need, they need somebody 2:03:03.080 --> 2:03:04.960 to throw. They need yeah, they need a weapon. They 2:03:05.040 --> 2:03:07.160 got Kyle Pitts and then a whole bunch of receivers 2:03:07.240 --> 2:03:09.080 you've never heard of. Oh, I just thought about that 2:03:09.280 --> 2:03:12.480 pairing Pitts in London. That'll be fun. Was that quarterback 2:03:12.920 --> 2:03:16.480 Marcus Mariota for the time. If Marcus, that just took 2:03:16.560 --> 2:03:19.600 the fun right out of it. For Hey, he's not awful, 2:03:19.840 --> 2:03:21.400 I know he's not. I mean, we'll see didn't haven't. 2:03:21.440 --> 2:03:23.240 Didn't live up to his draft stock for now. But 2:03:23.360 --> 2:03:25.440 see that's what I brought up about Arthur Smith the 2:03:25.560 --> 2:03:28.600 coach there. You know big. I mean he came from Tennessee, 2:03:28.800 --> 2:03:32.760 big receivers over there. You know, physicality maybe not as 2:03:32.840 --> 2:03:35.120 important as how fast you're a matter of fact, nobody 2:03:35.200 --> 2:03:38.800 has a time on Drake London never ran a forty, No, 2:03:39.320 --> 2:03:42.080 never did. I mean, so you know nowadays people are 2:03:42.160 --> 2:03:44.640 like going, oh, well, back in the never ran line. No. 2:03:44.920 --> 2:03:46.640 Back in the day when I mean like you would 2:03:46.760 --> 2:03:48.920 you would have like my boss would have sent me 2:03:49.360 --> 2:03:52.160 to wherever he is out in California, and they're like, 2:03:52.240 --> 2:03:54.400 you get a forty on that kid. Yeah, I mean 2:03:54.840 --> 2:03:57.120 there was a time where you would have not drafted. 2:03:57.240 --> 2:03:59.840 And but today we're in an age we take five 2:04:00.080 --> 2:04:02.680 nine quarterbacks first overall and we don't have time on 2:04:02.800 --> 2:04:05.919 wide receiver. I think there's a there's an interesting conversation 2:04:05.960 --> 2:04:07.760 to be had there. I think Drake Lendon's great. I 2:04:07.800 --> 2:04:10.320 would have been happy had the Cowboys found a way 2:04:10.360 --> 2:04:13.000 to draft him. But there was always part of me 2:04:13.080 --> 2:04:17.000 that wondered if he was the like it hate that phrase. 2:04:17.240 --> 2:04:19.360 Is he a Dak friendly receiver? I think he is, 2:04:19.400 --> 2:04:20.880 because it depends on how you define it. But I 2:04:20.920 --> 2:04:22.720 think that's a guy who, no matter whether he's got 2:04:22.760 --> 2:04:24.440 the separation or not, he's coming down. But what does 2:04:24.480 --> 2:04:27.560 that mean? Okay? But the reason I say it is 2:04:27.600 --> 2:04:32.320 because Dak values separation. He doesn't he doesn't throw the 2:04:32.400 --> 2:04:34.600 covered guy. He doesn't like to take risks, he doesn't 2:04:34.600 --> 2:04:36.040 want to put the ball in harm way, and he 2:04:36.120 --> 2:04:38.520 wants you to be open. AF twenty seventeen he was. 2:04:38.680 --> 2:04:40.720 He was the He had more of his completions and 2:04:40.800 --> 2:04:42.560 tight window throws than anybody else in the NFL. So, 2:04:42.600 --> 2:04:44.760 I mean, I think it's it's true, but I think 2:04:44.800 --> 2:04:46.000 it's a little bit of a myth just to how 2:04:46.040 --> 2:04:48.760 it's like, unless it's not wide open, not throwing, they 2:04:48.760 --> 2:04:50.760 don't think that way across the hall. He can make 2:04:50.840 --> 2:04:53.440 those throws. I don't want to like be taken out 2:04:53.480 --> 2:04:55.920 of context like I know he can. I just wonder 2:04:56.600 --> 2:04:59.360 if a guy that can create more separation would be better. 2:04:59.520 --> 2:05:03.600 That's That's why I said, Chris, Chris Ollavey. Those two 2:05:03.600 --> 2:05:06.800 Ohio State receivers are both that way, they create separation. 2:05:06.960 --> 2:05:11.000 I think in this I would love that would be wonderful. 2:05:11.000 --> 2:05:13.680 I think they think Wilson's better. Let's reset the picks. 2:05:13.880 --> 2:05:17.480 Trayvon Walker goes one to Jacksonville, Aiden Hutchison two to 2:05:17.600 --> 2:05:21.880 the Lions. Stingley, the corner from LSU, goes three to 2:05:22.040 --> 2:05:24.720 the Texans. Then Sauce Gardner to the New York Jets 2:05:24.840 --> 2:05:28.560 at four. Thibadeau, who our guys had as the best 2:05:28.640 --> 2:05:31.200 player in the draft, goes to the Giants at five. 2:05:31.480 --> 2:05:34.680 Hit Kwanyu, the tackle from NC State goes to Carolina 2:05:34.800 --> 2:05:39.520 at six. No quarterback Evan Neil to the Giants at seven. 2:05:39.800 --> 2:05:43.640 The tackle from Alabama, Drake London just went off the 2:05:43.720 --> 2:05:46.600 board to the Atlanta Falcons at number eight. And now 2:05:46.920 --> 2:05:50.280 your boy brought us John Schneider, and now he's gonna 2:05:50.320 --> 2:05:52.880 mess this up. Who is Like, here's somebody in the 2:05:53.000 --> 2:05:55.560 third round we haven't even talked about. Here, I'll tell 2:05:55.560 --> 2:05:57.800 you what Seahawks are jealous of the Giants draft because 2:05:57.800 --> 2:05:59.920 those are the year they those are the two names 2:06:00.160 --> 2:06:03.360 most heard. They liked we're Neil and Thibadeau. I wonder 2:06:03.560 --> 2:06:05.640 if this is another landline for a potential trade up. 2:06:05.640 --> 2:06:08.800 I think this is a potential for Cross. I wonder 2:06:08.960 --> 2:06:11.919 it need offensive. There's been some I need a quarterback, 2:06:12.160 --> 2:06:14.120 there's been I've not heard this, but there's a lot 2:06:14.200 --> 2:06:17.800 of choppy off the hook, like why we don't want 2:06:17.920 --> 2:06:20.240 quarterbacks to go there? Don't want it. There's a lot 2:06:20.360 --> 2:06:23.040 of people mocking Jermaine Johnson here. I don't I haven't 2:06:23.080 --> 2:06:25.360 heard that specifically, but I've just seen enough people throw 2:06:25.440 --> 2:06:28.200 Jermain Johnson the addresser from the Snyder pick. That would 2:06:28.200 --> 2:06:31.240 be the John Snyder pick. Would john loves defensive ends? 2:06:31.680 --> 2:06:35.080 You know, he really does really really hard. If the 2:06:35.200 --> 2:06:39.360 Seahawks drafted a franchise tackle for Drew Locke after years 2:06:39.400 --> 2:06:41.680 of not helping Russell Wilson, yeah, I gotta say. If 2:06:41.720 --> 2:06:43.840 you get through nine, though, and there's not a tackle 2:06:43.920 --> 2:06:47.120 here and the pick is in Jets and Commanders, they 2:06:47.200 --> 2:06:48.920 might start a run on receivers. Here. You're starting to 2:06:48.960 --> 2:06:51.480 getting a tall range and you've got two. If Cross 2:06:51.560 --> 2:06:54.560 clears there, crossing Penny could start getting in trade up range. 2:06:54.640 --> 2:06:57.839 Charles Cross hanging around to like sixteen. The Seahawks question 2:06:58.120 --> 2:07:02.240 has been it's learning at me all offseason. No one's 2:07:02.280 --> 2:07:05.200 talking about it. What happened to Seattle last year? They 2:07:05.320 --> 2:07:07.840 have they have they have weapons, they have a Hall 2:07:07.840 --> 2:07:11.760 of Fame quarterback, right, but like the offense disappeared at times. 2:07:12.080 --> 2:07:15.360 Are we all totally sold that Russell makes a humongous 2:07:15.400 --> 2:07:19.520 difference In Denver? You got Metcalfe, uh, you got Lockett, 2:07:19.920 --> 2:07:23.880 and Seattle finally had had a really bad year. What happened? 2:07:24.280 --> 2:07:26.800 I don't cover them, so I don't want to speak 2:07:26.920 --> 2:07:30.680 too boldly and too confidently, But I think Russell Wilson 2:07:31.480 --> 2:07:33.960 knew that he was playing in the best division in football, 2:07:34.080 --> 2:07:36.240 tried to come back from a thumb injury too quickly, 2:07:36.560 --> 2:07:40.120 wasn't healthy, wasn't the same player, and didn't have an 2:07:40.160 --> 2:07:43.000 offensive line, didn't play and also all of that problems, 2:07:43.480 --> 2:07:46.120 all that problem was still there, and I think it 2:07:46.240 --> 2:07:48.960 just it hurt him. Um. I think Russell Wilson will 2:07:48.960 --> 2:07:50.760 be just fine in Denver. You want to talk about 2:07:50.880 --> 2:07:54.160 having everything that they all they needed was a quarterback 2:07:54.200 --> 2:07:57.000 brought us what is the what's the real power structure there? 2:07:57.200 --> 2:07:59.680 Because I know we talked about John Snyder He's had 2:07:59.720 --> 2:08:01.840 a heck of a reputation as a GM. But people 2:08:01.920 --> 2:08:05.440 say this is this is Pete Carroll's show. No, John 2:08:05.520 --> 2:08:07.560 and Pete do work together. The one thing John was 2:08:07.600 --> 2:08:10.040 always would tell me was that he's like, listen, Pete 2:08:10.120 --> 2:08:13.160 convinced me that he can coach the player that might 2:08:13.440 --> 2:08:16.640 be off center. That maybe they had they had a 2:08:16.760 --> 2:08:18.920 run there where they were taking those defensive linemen. Then 2:08:18.960 --> 2:08:21.720 they all were Frank Clark, Yeah, they were taking questionable 2:08:21.840 --> 2:08:23.880 character guys and John's like, I don't want to take 2:08:23.960 --> 2:08:26.600 these guys, and Pete's like, no, no, no, we could 2:08:26.640 --> 2:08:28.680 take and we could win with these guys, and they did. 2:08:29.240 --> 2:08:31.560 The problem is that when you look at the Seahawks, 2:08:31.640 --> 2:08:34.720 now you know, who the hell's Stone Forsyth, Who the 2:08:34.800 --> 2:08:38.440 hell's Damian Lewis, Who the hell's Austin blythe you know, Dan, 2:08:38.600 --> 2:08:42.520 Dave Jackson and Lewis. But you but know what I'm saying, Yes, 2:08:42.600 --> 2:08:46.720 I know those are the guys. I know. Yeah, that's 2:08:46.760 --> 2:08:49.960 what I'm saying, That's what that would be. Jake current 2:08:50.040 --> 2:08:52.360 Tackle was the pick who Yeah, I mean, who who is? 2:08:52.520 --> 2:08:55.520 Who are these guys? John? John is always He's always 2:08:55.600 --> 2:08:58.920 taking guys he's like traded back and taking uh if 2:08:58.960 --> 2:09:01.720 fetty and people like that that You're like why, But 2:09:01.840 --> 2:09:04.480 it's so weird because people just you know, still do 2:09:04.640 --> 2:09:06.240 make fun of the Cowboys for being a little bit 2:09:06.280 --> 2:09:09.640 old school. Pete Carroll is like looked upon as the analyst. 2:09:09.680 --> 2:09:12.120 I hope I look when I'm seventy, Well he looks good, 2:09:12.560 --> 2:09:14.880 h and he chooses gum fast. But he's like, run 2:09:14.960 --> 2:09:18.440 the football and defense and special teams and you think 2:09:18.480 --> 2:09:20.280 they have an offensive line to run it. Here's Seattle 2:09:20.320 --> 2:09:25.520 selection at nine nine pick and the twenty twenty NFL Draft, 2:09:27.000 --> 2:09:34.680 the Seattle Seahawk selection Charles Cross tackle Mississippi State. Throw it? 2:09:35.600 --> 2:09:38.040 Why are we throwing the pick again? First pen? That's 2:09:38.120 --> 2:09:40.240 that's that's like a guy you wanted that. That was 2:09:40.320 --> 2:09:44.520 my best tackle? You all? I all I want to 2:09:44.560 --> 2:09:47.280 say now is for John. He must have stepped out 2:09:47.320 --> 2:09:50.400 of the room. You know. No, you need to text 2:09:50.480 --> 2:09:51.840 him right now, and so I apologize for what I 2:09:51.920 --> 2:09:53.440 just said over the last time. Now he will talk 2:09:53.440 --> 2:09:55.840 to me anymore because he knows I get on him 2:09:55.840 --> 2:09:57.760 all the time. You guys called this though, Yeah, but 2:09:58.120 --> 2:10:01.000 but see that's I just named I just named all 2:10:01.040 --> 2:10:04.680 those who's who? Yeah, you know, and and there somewhere 2:10:04.760 --> 2:10:07.240 I get Russell Wilson sitting in his twenty five million 2:10:07.280 --> 2:10:09.840 dollar home there in Colorado and throwing too. He's going, 2:10:10.120 --> 2:10:12.840 what would who they take? You know that kind of thing. 2:10:12.960 --> 2:10:15.640 So like Kevin Hart like help me, why why wouldn't 2:10:15.680 --> 2:10:17.800 you do that for me? Right? And they used the 2:10:17.840 --> 2:10:20.720 pick that they traded for him for Yeah, boy, this 2:10:20.800 --> 2:10:23.560 is this is poetic. This is picks eight and nine 2:10:23.600 --> 2:10:26.000 back to back years, just stabbing the cowboys in the heart. 2:10:26.880 --> 2:10:31.320 They lost horn that was yet get closer to get 2:10:31.360 --> 2:10:34.400 stabbed because it's because I think we didn't think they 2:10:34.440 --> 2:10:36.360 were gonna slide down to twenty four obviously, but had 2:10:36.400 --> 2:10:38.160 they gotten to twelve, they I think they were picking 2:10:38.240 --> 2:10:39.960 up I'm with Bobby on this one. You were looking 2:10:40.000 --> 2:10:43.040 at twelve as a potential trade up target that vikings 2:10:43.080 --> 2:10:46.560 for sure sitting there. If they if these two guys 2:10:46.640 --> 2:10:49.040 would have been there at twelve a conversation as being 2:10:49.080 --> 2:10:51.080 had I still don't. It's still not the same as 2:10:51.200 --> 2:10:53.640 the two picks before. You already two guys that you're 2:10:53.640 --> 2:10:57.160 already there. Now Here's here's the interesting thing we talked 2:10:57.160 --> 2:10:59.080 all about, like how unpredictable this is and how wild 2:10:59.120 --> 2:11:00.800 this is going to be. I think we felt pretty 2:11:00.880 --> 2:11:02.680 on with like all, Like if you would have told 2:11:02.680 --> 2:11:04.840 me these were the top nine players, I think we 2:11:04.920 --> 2:11:07.160 would have kind of guessed pretty close to this. Nothing 2:11:07.280 --> 2:11:10.440 truly surprising has happened yet another. I mean, there was 2:11:10.480 --> 2:11:13.040 way too much smoke about Stingley all this week for 2:11:13.240 --> 2:11:15.760 me to be surprised to hear his name. Carolina Picking 2:11:15.880 --> 2:11:19.160 surprised me. The Jets are on the clock at ten, 2:11:19.680 --> 2:11:25.080 then the commanders at eleven. Michael Irvin just texted me saying, wow, 2:11:25.920 --> 2:11:28.840 humble brag Mutch no QB taken in the top ten, 2:11:28.960 --> 2:11:31.200 I said, Mike, though, we're not out of the top 2:11:31.280 --> 2:11:33.880 ten yet, but maybe he's got the NFL network board 2:11:33.960 --> 2:11:37.280 like running early right where those picks go playmakers. I'm 2:11:37.320 --> 2:11:39.760 hoping that. I'm hoping for that selfishly for my morning 2:11:39.800 --> 2:11:43.760 show that I think we're safe here at ten with 2:11:43.920 --> 2:11:46.280 the Jets. What are they looking at here? After they 2:11:46.920 --> 2:11:50.480 went with Corner with the first selection? Um, this this 2:11:50.760 --> 2:11:56.560 was the Drake London they wanted. They wanted London Wilson. 2:11:56.680 --> 2:11:58.440 Is this Garrett Wilson. I mean, I don't know what 2:11:58.520 --> 2:12:01.320 they think of Olave or something. The first wide receivers 2:12:01.480 --> 2:12:03.560 were supposed to come off the board at ten. That 2:12:03.720 --> 2:12:06.520 I mean, every every draft, everybody had talked about when's 2:12:06.520 --> 2:12:09.080 the first wide receiver gonna come. It was gonna be ten, 2:12:09.200 --> 2:12:11.160 but it just happened to go to Atlanta. You know, 2:12:11.360 --> 2:12:13.880 a couple picks earlier there. But are you guys talking 2:12:13.880 --> 2:12:17.360 a little lineman for the Jets as well? I don't 2:12:17.400 --> 2:12:19.920 know that. I mean, if they like Penning enough, sure, yeah. 2:12:19.920 --> 2:12:21.960 I don't know that they like Penning like that. You 2:12:22.040 --> 2:12:24.320 also look at Kyle Hamilton being on the board here. 2:12:24.400 --> 2:12:26.200 I don't think they would do that, but at least 2:12:26.280 --> 2:12:28.560 in terms of top players available, he's up there at 2:12:28.560 --> 2:12:30.400 the top of the list. I don't know if they 2:12:30.400 --> 2:12:32.000 would go to Penning either. I'm right there with I 2:12:32.240 --> 2:12:35.840 think I think Jets go Garrett Wilson here. If I think, 2:12:36.720 --> 2:12:39.160 I think the Commanders then go either top receiver. They're 2:12:39.200 --> 2:12:41.600 taking Kyle. They love Kyle Hamilton and Washing, yeah they do. 2:12:41.680 --> 2:12:43.680 Who are the best linemen on the board, because as 2:12:43.720 --> 2:12:50.560 you mentioned Helman earlier, that's what the top edge not 2:12:50.800 --> 2:12:53.280 not not for Brian. Brian's got Karloft is here. I 2:12:53.400 --> 2:12:56.720 was reading branching into Jordan Davis territory as well. Yeah, 2:12:56.800 --> 2:13:00.920 that seems high. But everybody like Jeremiah from for Michael 2:13:00.960 --> 2:13:04.320 lombartin Michael Lombardi said that Jordan Davis should have been 2:13:04.560 --> 2:13:07.320 the number one pick your boy brought us former NFL 2:13:07.720 --> 2:13:10.800 Mike loves those defensive linemen like that though, he really does. 2:13:10.840 --> 2:13:13.000 But that's a highweight speed thing. That's that. That's that 2:13:13.480 --> 2:13:16.360 Al Davis training that you get where oh my gosh, 2:13:16.400 --> 2:13:18.680 the guys three hundred and forty pounds and he ran 2:13:18.800 --> 2:13:20.760 four seven eight. You know, one of those things if 2:13:20.800 --> 2:13:24.440 it was going to be a defensive lineman. Um, Jordan 2:13:24.560 --> 2:13:27.200 Davis and Jermaine Johnson make the most sense at this point. 2:13:27.800 --> 2:13:31.040 All right, so the commanders will be after this out eleven. 2:13:31.160 --> 2:13:33.560 What did you say you were feeling for Loston Wilson 2:13:33.680 --> 2:13:38.080 here and then Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton is a commander's 2:13:38.480 --> 2:13:41.000 guy I had I had heard Washington was really in 2:13:41.160 --> 2:13:44.680 on Kyle Hamilton and Drake London. Yeah. I also Ron 2:13:44.840 --> 2:13:47.680 Rivera loves the Ohio State kids too, That's what I 2:13:47.800 --> 2:13:50.440 was saying. Olaby was a guy that people were talking 2:13:50.480 --> 2:13:53.240 about potentially there as well, and I'm talking receiver a 2:13:53.320 --> 2:13:57.280 lot they have. I know Rivera likes the Ohio State kids, 2:13:57.360 --> 2:14:00.280 but I've heard Kyle Hamilton a lot Le Hamilton. Yeah, everybody, 2:14:00.360 --> 2:14:02.400 that's that's absolutely right. Well they just moved on from 2:14:02.480 --> 2:14:05.480 landon Collins too, they did, ye all right. So we 2:14:05.800 --> 2:14:08.920 have the newer Jets on the clock than the Commanders, 2:14:08.960 --> 2:14:13.120 than the Minnesota Vikings, the Texans back there at number thirteen, 2:14:13.440 --> 2:14:17.000 the Baltimore Ravens at fourteen, and then the Philadelphia Eagles 2:14:17.200 --> 2:14:21.840 at fifteen. Sean Sharif, Kyle Yeoman's, David Hellman, Brian brought 2:14:21.920 --> 2:14:24.880 us and Bobby belt with not a ton of surprises. 2:14:24.960 --> 2:14:27.240 So far, the guys have been crushing the picks in 2:14:27.360 --> 2:14:31.040 terms of the predictions. So let's see what happens here, Bobby, 2:14:31.040 --> 2:14:33.080 you're gonna go on the record with this. Garrett Wilson, 2:14:33.320 --> 2:14:39.960 Garrett Wilson, Roger Goodell prove Bobby right est pick in 2:14:40.080 --> 2:14:43.760 the twenty twenty two NFL Drags. The New York Jets 2:14:43.800 --> 2:14:50.600 select Garrett Wilson wide receiver, Ohio saying, look at that suit. 2:14:50.760 --> 2:14:53.720 There we go, little little gray, little white, little split 2:14:53.840 --> 2:14:56.560 suit there. So Garrett Wilson the receiver goes to the 2:14:56.640 --> 2:14:58.640 New York Jets and try to get their young quarterbacks 2:14:58.720 --> 2:15:01.240 some help. Are they gonna try to get Carson once? 2:15:01.360 --> 2:15:04.560 Some help? The commanders are on the clock. Next this 2:15:04.720 --> 2:15:07.000 is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh 2:15:07.080 --> 2:15:10.640 five three the Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. 2:15:16.640 --> 2:15:19.040 I'll go on the record right now and say it'll 2:15:19.080 --> 2:15:23.080 be Hamilton or Hamilton or at Hamilton, or whoever they 2:15:23.120 --> 2:15:25.680 think is the top rest for Jamison Arl I'm Hamilton. 2:15:25.760 --> 2:15:29.840 I'm going Hamilton, and I gotta tell y'all now. Tomorrow 2:15:29.840 --> 2:15:31.920 we're changing up the Seaton arrangement. I went Dave to 2:15:32.040 --> 2:15:34.000 sit over here so that he can see I'm calling 2:15:34.080 --> 2:15:36.480 picks out and not looking at Twitter because he does 2:15:36.560 --> 2:15:38.600 not believe me. I don't believe you at all, because 2:15:38.640 --> 2:15:40.600 I have Twitter. You've been look. Sean's been sitting here 2:15:40.680 --> 2:15:42.160 right next to me. I have the NFL. Look, man, 2:15:42.200 --> 2:15:45.240 I've been staring at soda for a caffeine face. I'm 2:15:45.560 --> 2:15:48.000 looking at you. Sorry, And I used to be accused 2:15:48.040 --> 2:15:50.320 of all this. We can't like Dave. You can get 2:15:50.360 --> 2:15:53.920 service if you want something, let me know. Bobby. I 2:15:54.000 --> 2:15:56.160 will say it's a normal thing, because even if you 2:15:56.240 --> 2:15:58.480 get to get anything right, fans will be like, oh, 2:15:58.520 --> 2:16:00.760 you're just cheating your your telegraph. After the picks, it's 2:16:00.800 --> 2:16:02.880 like the fans. This dude knows I talk to people. 2:16:02.880 --> 2:16:09.200 He should know better. I haven't done enough trolling of helmet. 2:16:09.240 --> 2:16:10.880 We're ten picks in and I've made like one helmet 2:16:10.920 --> 2:16:13.520 who leaks? Who has been the inside that leaks it? 2:16:13.760 --> 2:16:17.000 Nowadays the schefter leak it? Who leaks? Oh, I don't 2:16:17.000 --> 2:16:18.560 see I don't think. I think they've cracked down on 2:16:18.640 --> 2:16:22.280 that pretty good. Yeah, I mean that is it? Is 2:16:22.280 --> 2:16:24.360 it an open secret? Like do people know? I mean 2:16:24.440 --> 2:16:27.120 the actual league is like eight minutes ahead of TV. 2:16:27.800 --> 2:16:30.040 People know that. That was awesome one year I saw that. 2:16:30.080 --> 2:16:32.320 And so there's enough people who talk and like who 2:16:32.400 --> 2:16:35.080 tweet stuff out and like, I mean there's people in 2:16:35.160 --> 2:16:37.600 every building that have access to it. They've done they've 2:16:37.640 --> 2:16:39.520 cracked down on it a lot harder than they used to. 2:16:40.000 --> 2:16:42.440 But yeah, I got out of control for a little bit. 2:16:42.480 --> 2:16:46.840 What's actually happening is it gets it gets crazier on 2:16:46.959 --> 2:16:50.040 like day three, like that they're on day three. The 2:16:50.160 --> 2:16:53.080 actual picks are half wild West, fifteen minutes before the 2:16:53.160 --> 2:16:56.000 TV catches up like it's insane. The only pick I've 2:16:56.040 --> 2:16:59.360 seen Schefter or Ian today get out in front of 2:16:59.520 --> 2:17:01.240 where they were calling it before it was announced, was 2:17:01.480 --> 2:17:03.600 a minute before they said it was Trayvon Walker. That's 2:17:03.600 --> 2:17:06.920 the one I've seen today. Who's the NBA guy Shams? Yeah, yeah, 2:17:07.040 --> 2:17:09.640 he he had it too, which I always love when 2:17:09.680 --> 2:17:12.600 there's crossover, like the NBA guys are tipping NFL picks, 2:17:13.240 --> 2:17:15.640 but they can't get in trouble. Was he was doing? 2:17:15.800 --> 2:17:19.800 We got our first trade? I don't know, Brian, you 2:17:19.920 --> 2:17:22.680 call it? Y'all have been talking Ryan, the Saints are 2:17:22.720 --> 2:17:26.320 so and so? Who wait? Who do they like? Tell us, Brian, 2:17:26.440 --> 2:17:27.960 I think it's a quarterback. I think it's for the 2:17:28.000 --> 2:17:29.640 quarter I think it is I think it's Malik Willis. 2:17:29.680 --> 2:17:31.600 I think it's Willis. Yeah, yeah, I think they're I 2:17:31.640 --> 2:17:33.400 think they're going for Willis. How funny would it be? 2:17:34.680 --> 2:17:37.160 QB one pick outside the top ten? They didn't like 2:17:37.280 --> 2:17:40.360 Kyle Hamilton enough? So happy? I'm so? Or do they 2:17:40.400 --> 2:17:43.240 think he'll fall to fifteen or excuse me, sixteen? If 2:17:43.280 --> 2:17:45.960 they got sixteen, we don't know what the competence. Okay, 2:17:46.320 --> 2:17:47.880 maybe this is maybe it's not Hamiling could they go 2:17:47.920 --> 2:17:50.520 for the wide receiver here to go with the wide 2:17:50.560 --> 2:17:54.320 receiver and then wait for and then wait for h 2:17:54.800 --> 2:17:58.879 at sixteen, wait for Willis were in weren't they also 2:17:58.959 --> 2:18:02.320 in tackle talk though? Is this Penning? Yeah, the tackles 2:18:02.320 --> 2:18:04.720 are all the tackles were all off the Pennings. They 2:18:04.800 --> 2:18:06.600 thought that, Yeah, if I had to, if I had 2:18:06.600 --> 2:18:10.480 to bet, if I had to bet the three positions, quarterback, tackle, 2:18:11.080 --> 2:18:14.280 wide receiver. But I didn't feel like the Saints were 2:18:14.360 --> 2:18:16.960 done man, because we were talking about that. You just 2:18:17.120 --> 2:18:20.280 don't do that. You don't. You just don't like, oh, 2:18:20.480 --> 2:18:22.840 we're gonna trade up till sixteen just because we like 2:18:23.000 --> 2:18:25.880 that spot, Like nobody does that. Now that we're looking 2:18:25.920 --> 2:18:27.320 through it, though, I'm gonna go back to what brought 2:18:27.400 --> 2:18:30.120 us was saying a second Jamison, it's pick sixteen, a 2:18:30.280 --> 2:18:32.760 third and a fourth for eleven, so they still have 2:18:33.400 --> 2:18:36.400 nineteen if I mean, look at the teams in between them, 2:18:36.400 --> 2:18:39.040 the Vikings, the Texans, Ravens, Eagles. None of those teams 2:18:39.040 --> 2:18:42.360 were going to take a quarterback regardless however, somebody could 2:18:42.440 --> 2:18:46.520 trade it up. So there's I mean, there's president that 2:18:46.600 --> 2:18:48.720 a quarterback could be the selection here. But it's not 2:18:48.920 --> 2:18:53.760 a foregone conclusion. Yeah, I mean I would do that trade. Wait, 2:18:53.959 --> 2:18:55.880 what was the compensation again? A third, a fourth and 2:18:55.920 --> 2:18:59.480 pick sixteen? Bro, I would do that for Jamison Williams 2:18:59.520 --> 2:19:02.080 in a beat. That's what I like. I'm saying going 2:19:02.200 --> 2:19:04.160 up was not gonna cost the same. I would do 2:19:04.320 --> 2:19:22.640 that in a hard beat. Sean Sharife, Bobby Belt, Brian 2:19:22.680 --> 2:19:27.120 brought us David Helmet and Kyle Yeoman's here with round 2:19:27.240 --> 2:19:29.920 number one and we have a trade. Boys, we have 2:19:30.080 --> 2:19:33.400 the New Orleans Saints on the clock. They have moved 2:19:33.480 --> 2:19:37.760 up to number eleven. What is this for? What are 2:19:37.800 --> 2:19:41.480 we thinking here? I mean anytime, the natural inclination when 2:19:41.720 --> 2:19:45.320 something like this happens is quarterback. But we all agree 2:19:45.400 --> 2:19:48.119 that maybe these quarterbacks aren't worth it. They to Ron 2:19:48.240 --> 2:19:51.119 Armstead's in Miami. Now they need to tackle. Maybe they're 2:19:51.720 --> 2:19:55.680 convinced maybe Penning is their last shot at getting a 2:19:56.000 --> 2:19:59.440 tall to can't afford the weight, and they've they keep 2:19:59.520 --> 2:20:01.880 their other first round pick, right, so like, yeah, it 2:20:01.959 --> 2:20:03.640 was a third and a fourth, they're not moving out 2:20:03.680 --> 2:20:05.600 of the round entirely. So you can get your tackle 2:20:05.720 --> 2:20:08.840 here and get a receiver. Like it's sixteen ninety eight 2:20:08.920 --> 2:20:11.959 and one twenty. Do we know who they like between 2:20:12.000 --> 2:20:15.720 the quarterbacks? They like willis More? Yeah, they will. Man, 2:20:15.800 --> 2:20:19.240 the Saints are so aggressive, Yeah, down the Chiefs. That 2:20:19.440 --> 2:20:22.160 was in the cards they were playing in this. I mean, 2:20:22.240 --> 2:20:24.360 I'm convincing, but it's still an aggressive thing to do 2:20:24.560 --> 2:20:26.720 it right away a future one. That's that's the thing 2:20:26.840 --> 2:20:29.240 they call again nineteen or excuse me, ninety eight? What 2:20:29.320 --> 2:20:32.480 else was the last one before? I think jumping for 2:20:32.640 --> 2:20:37.640 quarterback though, maybe they're jumping a potential trade. Yeah, that's yeah, 2:20:37.680 --> 2:20:39.879 if the price is that low, maybe they know other 2:20:39.959 --> 2:20:42.120 people could becoming see and that is the thing. So 2:20:42.400 --> 2:20:44.840 I've heard Titans could go up over Packers to try 2:20:44.879 --> 2:20:47.640 and get Burkes, and so there's chatter that the Packers 2:20:47.680 --> 2:20:50.560 could try to just jump up further than that before 2:20:50.680 --> 2:20:54.240 Titans can even execute a trade. All right, So New 2:20:54.360 --> 2:20:56.160 Orleans is on the clock. Yeah, they get a loaded 2:20:56.320 --> 2:20:59.840 quarterback room just with bodies, depending on what you think 2:21:00.000 --> 2:21:03.720 about Jamis. They brought in Andy Dalton as well. They 2:21:03.840 --> 2:21:07.400 finally gave up on the pocket knife project with Taysom Hill, 2:21:07.480 --> 2:21:11.080 thank god, and now they can start over with Dennis 2:21:11.120 --> 2:21:14.880 Allen as a head coach. For Sean Payton. I was 2:21:14.920 --> 2:21:17.200 always thinking Sean Payton was like also in there, really 2:21:17.240 --> 2:21:20.680 really aggressive. But is it still Mickey Loomis there? Lois 2:21:20.720 --> 2:21:24.880 still but Jeff Ireland also too, helping out things. You know, 2:21:25.120 --> 2:21:28.240 they played really the whole season without Michael Thomas last year. 2:21:28.360 --> 2:21:30.720 That's they need a receiver too. But yeah, so if 2:21:30.760 --> 2:21:32.560 they love a receiver enough to make it, I mean 2:21:32.800 --> 2:21:36.520 you mentioned about Jamison Williams. I mean you mentioned that, 2:21:37.080 --> 2:21:39.600 you know, and to Chrystal Waby. I mean there's there's 2:21:39.600 --> 2:21:41.680 a couple of little options there. I think that you 2:21:41.800 --> 2:21:46.160 can you know, maybe the receiver. The tackle is another 2:21:46.240 --> 2:21:49.240 one too. They've got If you look at this, ram 2:21:49.400 --> 2:21:53.720 Check is the right tackle James Hurst playing left tackle 2:21:53.800 --> 2:21:56.000 for him right now. If it's not a quarterback, I 2:21:56.120 --> 2:22:00.600 would get my educated guests would be Trevor Penning. Who's 2:22:00.600 --> 2:22:05.440 the better prospect between Penning and your number one receiver left? Well, 2:22:05.480 --> 2:22:07.800 I've got two of them. I mean I've got I've 2:22:07.800 --> 2:22:10.120 got a Lobby and Williams, both in the first round 2:22:10.200 --> 2:22:12.800 that are still left on my board. So to me, 2:22:13.120 --> 2:22:15.840 I think it's gonna be harder for them to find 2:22:15.959 --> 2:22:18.600 an offensive tackle. That's why I think this. I think 2:22:18.680 --> 2:22:22.880 that's why they're making this move. That's that's a scarcity 2:22:22.920 --> 2:22:26.160 of position like every I mean again, I think about 2:22:26.200 --> 2:22:28.200 what Will said to us at the combine Will McClay 2:22:28.360 --> 2:22:30.400 every day, where he's just like you can kind of 2:22:30.440 --> 2:22:33.320 count on five or six freaky receivers being in every draft. 2:22:33.400 --> 2:22:36.760 It's like, of course the ones at the top are better, 2:22:36.879 --> 2:22:38.880 but you can find those guys. How far down is 2:22:38.920 --> 2:22:41.360 the next tackle you have after penning? It's where the 2:22:41.800 --> 2:22:50.400 Bernard Ryman's Central Michigan talking, Yeah, it's okay. So if 2:22:50.480 --> 2:22:52.640 we clear penning here, I think this is where you 2:22:52.800 --> 2:22:56.119 might start seeing them work the phones. M I think 2:22:56.120 --> 2:22:58.119 you're going to get a receiver here. I think you're 2:22:58.240 --> 2:23:00.920 I think Brian spot On you mentioned I mentioned three. 2:23:02.000 --> 2:23:04.120 Roger Goodell has the announcement for the Saints, who have 2:23:04.280 --> 2:23:07.879 moved up with the Commanders. For all thirty two teams 2:23:07.920 --> 2:23:11.880 and their fans, We've got a similar time two weeks 2:23:11.920 --> 2:23:16.760 from tonight when we announced the twenty twenty two schedule 2:23:16.920 --> 2:23:21.720 on May twelfth. This year's schedule will have a new twist, 2:23:22.240 --> 2:23:24.880 as our Thursday night games will be carried by a 2:23:24.959 --> 2:23:31.120 new partner, Amazon Prime Video. Ching joining me our Chargers 2:23:31.160 --> 2:23:37.360 in chief season ticket members James Debo and Moosevelt. Can 2:23:37.440 --> 2:23:41.680 I get my first make the pickups? Also here is 2:23:41.720 --> 2:23:45.160 Pro Football Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez, who will be 2:23:45.320 --> 2:23:51.720 part of the Prime Video broadcast teaming the regulation. Tony say, thanks, Rogers. 2:23:52.360 --> 2:23:57.640 How's everybody doing great? I'm excited. Did you play for 2:23:57.720 --> 2:24:01.040 the same broadcast recruits for Amazon? You're gonna recognize this 2:24:01.200 --> 2:24:03.000 guy right here next to me. He's gonna be helping 2:24:03.040 --> 2:24:06.320 me make this announcement for the Prime Video which will 2:24:06.360 --> 2:24:10.720 be airing on Week two of the NFL season September fifteenth. 2:24:11.400 --> 2:24:17.480 Los Angeles running back Austin Ekeler and I guess you 2:24:17.520 --> 2:24:20.360 can tell probably it's no surprise the first game that 2:24:20.400 --> 2:24:22.240 we're gonna kick it off is gonna be on the 2:24:22.360 --> 2:24:26.720 Arrowhead well Thursday nights. But it says at the Chargers 2:24:28.760 --> 2:24:31.600 And I'll tell you what, Austin, If you you want 2:24:31.640 --> 2:24:36.440 my opinion about this game, they just announced a game. Yeah, 2:24:36.800 --> 2:24:39.920 it's the first Thursday night football game. Look, it doesn't 2:24:39.920 --> 2:24:42.000 get much better than this. It doesn't get much better 2:24:42.080 --> 2:24:45.520 than this Thursday football. You got two high power teams 2:24:45.640 --> 2:24:48.120 battling it out. It's gonna be halfba It's gonna be 2:24:48.160 --> 2:24:50.640 an amazing thing. Even if you don't rob with the 2:24:50.840 --> 2:24:52.560 with the Chargers achieved. I know you got me on 2:24:52.640 --> 2:24:54.840 your fantasy team, so there's no point. I'll watch it. 2:24:54.959 --> 2:24:58.360 It's gonna be awesome. Awareness I'll tell you what we're 2:24:58.400 --> 2:25:00.480 looking forward to it. This broad Week goes back to 2:25:01.280 --> 2:25:03.880 two years. You're not going to see every time these 2:25:03.920 --> 2:25:07.400 two teams get together. It's it's closing, it's fireworks, it's touchdowns, 2:25:07.440 --> 2:25:10.520 great deepens. So we will see you there September fifteenth, 2:25:12.840 --> 2:25:15.400 all right, So well, those guys announced something for a while. 2:25:16.000 --> 2:25:17.720 They let them go up there and do that whole 2:25:17.760 --> 2:25:21.000 promo without the selection. September fifteenth, when we're gonna get 2:25:21.000 --> 2:25:23.600 our next pick in Bobby, what's going down right now? 2:25:23.760 --> 2:25:26.800 It hasn't been announced yet. Rappaport has it. It's not 2:25:27.040 --> 2:25:29.120 up there yet though you I'm gonna say the trade, 2:25:29.120 --> 2:25:31.360 all right, yeah, the trade. The Lions are moving up 2:25:31.400 --> 2:25:34.920 to twelve. They've traded thirty two, thirty four and sixty 2:25:34.959 --> 2:25:37.039 six to the Vikings for twelve and forty six. All right, 2:25:37.120 --> 2:25:38.920 now we have to take for the Saints twenty two 2:25:39.080 --> 2:25:46.240 NFL drafting, the New Orleans Saints select Chris Olave, ride 2:25:46.280 --> 2:25:51.360 receiver Ohio State. Well, I did look at Twitter for 2:25:51.440 --> 2:25:54.800 that one. Yeah, that's fine. I'll be honest with you, man, 2:25:55.080 --> 2:25:57.879 that's fine. Ohio State receivers going back to back there. 2:25:57.920 --> 2:26:00.160 How about how I'll steal this line out of Ryan 2:26:00.200 --> 2:26:03.840 brought us his playbook. The Saints don't care. The Saints 2:26:03.840 --> 2:26:05.840 don't care. They're gonna go get their players. Yeah, trade 2:26:05.879 --> 2:26:09.039 away a future one for a defensive end. Sure, move 2:26:09.160 --> 2:26:11.120 up twice to get a wide receiver. Why not? They 2:26:11.240 --> 2:26:12.800 like to take a whole draft to go all the 2:26:12.840 --> 2:26:14.840 way up to get a running back like the Rams. 2:26:14.920 --> 2:26:18.000 But they're just like, I mean, screw the future. They 2:26:18.080 --> 2:26:20.520 still pick. The Rams don't pick. Yeah, the Rams don't pick. 2:26:20.600 --> 2:26:22.840 The Saints are like, why have three picks when we 2:26:22.879 --> 2:26:26.280 can make one? Are you surprised that they gave all 2:26:26.360 --> 2:26:29.160 that up for a Lave? I don't know that that's 2:26:29.240 --> 2:26:32.040 all that much. I agree. Well, there's maneuvering, right, Like 2:26:32.160 --> 2:26:34.640 the Eagles sent them some stuff back. Like, it's not 2:26:34.760 --> 2:26:38.400 like they get Comanders. I'm talking about the first first trade. 2:26:41.000 --> 2:26:42.560 They got stuff back. It's not it's not like a 2:26:42.680 --> 2:26:45.160 Ricky Williams situation where they were like take all our picks. 2:26:45.360 --> 2:26:49.000 So look, Michael Thomas, Olave Alvin Kamara. I like, I 2:26:49.120 --> 2:26:51.720 like the pairing. I just that's that's a lot to 2:26:51.760 --> 2:26:54.160 do for a wide receiver in my opinion, especially, I mean, 2:26:54.480 --> 2:26:56.560 I like Chris Lave a lot. I think he would 2:26:56.600 --> 2:26:59.840 have what type of player is fit. He's a technic. 2:27:00.080 --> 2:27:02.960 He's Terry Glenn with better hands. Wow, that's who he 2:27:03.120 --> 2:27:07.080 is and an Ohio State comp day. Yeah, well, when 2:27:07.120 --> 2:27:09.199 you look at the body type. To me, and I've 2:27:09.240 --> 2:27:11.280 seen Terry Glenn, We've all kind of seen Terry Glenn. 2:27:11.680 --> 2:27:14.240 Rookie year at New England, he had ninety receptions. I 2:27:14.320 --> 2:27:18.240 watched his kid play. He's slippery, he plays in tight 2:27:18.360 --> 2:27:21.560 spaces really well. He can catch the ball. He's really 2:27:21.640 --> 2:27:24.640 smart about not taking big hits too. But you watch 2:27:24.760 --> 2:27:27.400 him play attention to detail with him, ball goes to 2:27:27.440 --> 2:27:30.080 the sidelines, he catches it both feet down. He's not 2:27:30.200 --> 2:27:32.800 like a one foot down drag guy. He's a bring 2:27:33.400 --> 2:27:36.440 both feet He's a very conscious guy about the way 2:27:36.560 --> 2:27:39.360 he plays. I think, like I said, when I was 2:27:39.400 --> 2:27:41.800 watching him play that old school comp, I was kind 2:27:41.800 --> 2:27:44.480 of thinking Terry Glen with better hands, deep threat ability, 2:27:45.000 --> 2:27:48.240 one of the more electrocifying receivers in all of college football. 2:27:48.320 --> 2:27:51.520 He's so crisps, he's so smooth, clean route runner, and 2:27:51.640 --> 2:27:54.400 he's masterful in This is why I think the Cowboys 2:27:54.440 --> 2:27:57.119 had him as one of those top receivers on their board. 2:27:57.200 --> 2:28:00.680 He creates all sorts of separation and he does it 2:28:00.680 --> 2:28:03.360 at the lion of scrimmage, doesn't waste any time building 2:28:03.400 --> 2:28:05.600 some room between him and defender. And I'm happy for 2:28:05.760 --> 2:28:08.039 him that he went so highly because, like I think 2:28:08.120 --> 2:28:11.400 people just overlook him because like he's he's a slight guy, 2:28:11.640 --> 2:28:14.840 Like he's not trailing Burke's with this huge build or 2:28:14.959 --> 2:28:19.440 Drake London. Uh, he just he's kind of forgettable physically, 2:28:19.520 --> 2:28:21.600 so people kind of gloss over him in my opinion. 2:28:21.680 --> 2:28:23.480 But he's a hell of a football player. I feel 2:28:23.480 --> 2:28:26.800 like we've talked about poetic justice too throughout this show 2:28:26.920 --> 2:28:29.240 so far, and the fact that both yeah it is 2:28:29.640 --> 2:28:32.840 both of the Ohio State receivers going back to back, 2:28:32.879 --> 2:28:34.640 it just seems to fit a little bit. Yeah, no 2:28:34.760 --> 2:28:42.920 teammates going together. What special delivery, But John's live delivery 2:28:43.720 --> 2:28:45.560 put it right there on the table. My good man 2:28:45.760 --> 2:28:47.480 We'll put it right here this yeah, actually put it 2:28:47.680 --> 2:28:49.800 right over here by me, please, it's about to say 2:28:49.840 --> 2:28:51.760 put it in between me. Hey, look you got some 2:28:51.879 --> 2:28:56.440 caffeine too. I forgot. We are still live in the radio. 2:28:56.480 --> 2:28:58.600 Papa John's coming like you never know what's going to 2:28:58.640 --> 2:29:01.360 happen at the Star man Bobs, never know. Why are 2:29:01.440 --> 2:29:04.320 the Lions moving up? So a lot of people have 2:29:04.400 --> 2:29:06.200 them picking a quarterback at the back of the first 2:29:06.760 --> 2:29:10.280 quarterback eat everything. That's but here's here's here's what's interesting 2:29:10.320 --> 2:29:14.600 to me. Thank you, Papa John shouts out to Papa 2:29:14.680 --> 2:29:17.880 John's appreciate it. Oh yeah, that's wonderful, Thank you. I 2:29:17.959 --> 2:29:21.680 was so hungry. Um, we're on we're on radio right 2:29:21.760 --> 2:29:26.800 were what is interesting to me? Here about the trade up? Though, 2:29:27.400 --> 2:29:30.560 uh New Orleans. When they the way they moved up, 2:29:31.720 --> 2:29:34.280 Washington got shortered about one hundred points on the trade 2:29:34.360 --> 2:29:38.560 value chart. The combination of the picks Minnesota got totaled 2:29:38.640 --> 2:29:41.000 up to fourteen ten and they gave away sixteen forty. 2:29:42.160 --> 2:29:45.080 And so there's the trade up. It's a buyer's market. 2:29:45.120 --> 2:29:47.520 If Dallas wants to go up here, if Dallas wants 2:29:47.560 --> 2:29:48.760 to get up in the mid teens, I don't think 2:29:49.240 --> 2:29:51.200 wook us through that again what you just said. Yeah, 2:29:51.240 --> 2:29:54.160 so according to the trade value charts, yes, New Orleans 2:29:54.720 --> 2:29:57.280 got like got a value there. Washington got shortered about 2:29:57.280 --> 2:30:01.240 one hundred points for the value of pickle up. But 2:30:01.360 --> 2:30:04.119 then when you look at what Minnesota just traded away, 2:30:04.120 --> 2:30:06.360 which was twelve and forty six, the points there is 2:30:06.400 --> 2:30:10.280 sixteen forty and what Detroit gave up was thirty two 2:30:11.040 --> 2:30:13.840 thirty four, and then they also gave up sixty six 2:30:13.879 --> 2:30:16.080 and that told it up to fourteen ten. And so 2:30:16.200 --> 2:30:18.640 they they won that trade by two hundred and thirty points. 2:30:19.160 --> 2:30:21.400 Two hundred thirty points is the seventy second pick in 2:30:21.480 --> 2:30:24.920 the draft. Wow, So what's that? That's fast? That's a gap. 2:30:25.240 --> 2:30:29.480 Break it down for dummies like me. Basically, the nobody 2:30:29.600 --> 2:30:31.600 thinks the players at the top of this draft are 2:30:31.680 --> 2:30:34.320 valuable enough to like get a king's ranch. People want depth, 2:30:34.440 --> 2:30:36.680 They want to get more picks and take less to 2:30:36.720 --> 2:30:38.920 move back. Yep, yep. And so I mean if if 2:30:39.080 --> 2:30:41.560 and more confident that good players will be around, then 2:30:41.640 --> 2:30:44.360 taking a risk on these this range of picks right here. 2:30:44.480 --> 2:30:47.520 So if Dallas wants to go up for somebody, whether 2:30:47.560 --> 2:30:49.960 it be go up for Penning or go up for 2:30:50.480 --> 2:30:52.720 one of these other guys that they might like. It 2:30:52.920 --> 2:30:54.960 shouldn't cost him a ton. Who will we pick them 2:30:54.959 --> 2:30:57.480 for the Lions? Goodell is at the podium, Pallas, it's 2:30:57.520 --> 2:30:59.800 gotta be Willis. Yeah, quarterback, you wouldn't go for this. 2:31:00.240 --> 2:31:03.600 Let use a quarterback. With the twelve pick in the 2:31:03.720 --> 2:31:08.720 twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select Jamison 2:31:08.800 --> 2:31:16.440 Willman Williams, Oh wow, do you wow? Two moves up 2:31:16.560 --> 2:31:18.920 for two receivers. Do you want to throw your pin? Dave? 2:31:20.680 --> 2:31:24.360 I mean I never I never really believed he was 2:31:24.440 --> 2:31:26.920 never going to be a cowboy. But I love him. 2:31:27.040 --> 2:31:29.560 I can't. I hope it's okay, dream Jamison. I wish 2:31:29.600 --> 2:31:31.520 you all the success. Why do you love him? He's 2:31:31.680 --> 2:31:35.120 he's free, He's Tyreek hill Man. He's fast as all hell. 2:31:35.440 --> 2:31:38.080 He catches the football. But like that's it's not he's 2:31:38.120 --> 2:31:40.120 not just the speed guy. Like he's not just like 2:31:40.360 --> 2:31:42.880 run a go route guy, Like he is a polished 2:31:42.959 --> 2:31:46.600 receiver who happens to be fast as all hell. Am 2:31:46.680 --> 2:31:48.120 I am I off base with any of what I 2:31:48.200 --> 2:31:50.600 just said. No, no, Now he got hurt in the 2:31:50.640 --> 2:31:54.039 National championship, right and Bama wins that game if he doesn't. Yeah, 2:31:54.080 --> 2:31:56.640 that felt like I remember, that felt like their chances 2:31:57.440 --> 2:32:00.600 got dramatically lowered when Jameson Williams got hurt in that game. 2:32:00.680 --> 2:32:02.760 It's been a minute, and I was definitely I was 2:32:02.840 --> 2:32:05.200 having a few adult beverages while I watched it. But 2:32:05.360 --> 2:32:10.560 I mean he he terrorized George's defense in the SEC 2:32:10.760 --> 2:32:13.440 title game, which Bama one going away for Honest, do 2:32:13.480 --> 2:32:16.000 you have a problem with this from a team building standpoint? Well, 2:32:16.080 --> 2:32:18.360 you know what I really mean, giving away picks for 2:32:18.400 --> 2:32:20.560 a bad team. We just got another trade, by the way, 2:32:20.680 --> 2:32:26.120 big one too, while Philadelphia traded up the thirteen. Okay, now, okay, 2:32:26.200 --> 2:32:27.879 so that I was kind because I was looking at 2:32:27.920 --> 2:32:30.640 Houston was talking about wide receiver. You know, are we 2:32:30.720 --> 2:32:32.960 starting to see the runs on the wide receivers now 2:32:33.080 --> 2:32:35.560 here free? Yeah? I don't know, Like who do they like? Here? 2:32:36.240 --> 2:32:38.960 Is there any who? Is there any receiver left that 2:32:39.000 --> 2:32:41.720 would go in this range? People? There are a lot 2:32:41.760 --> 2:32:45.520 of people from verse first. Yeah, I just to me 2:32:45.600 --> 2:32:47.800 because like I saying, I was, I was. I didn't 2:32:47.840 --> 2:32:50.879 think like with Troit giving up all that to go up, 2:32:51.360 --> 2:32:53.320 I kind of felt like it was for that quarterback. 2:32:53.720 --> 2:32:55.160 You know, I kind of felt like that that they 2:32:55.200 --> 2:32:57.360 were not willing to wait till thirty two to get 2:32:57.400 --> 2:32:59.680 to try and get that guy. So that's why. But 2:33:00.240 --> 2:33:02.440 Jamison William's going up and getting that pick. I mean, 2:33:02.480 --> 2:33:04.480 he's my number one wide receiver on the board. There. 2:33:04.600 --> 2:33:07.760 Their their top trade is ludicrous speed. I don't think 2:33:07.800 --> 2:33:11.320 I've seen that before. Ludicrous. I mean, it's next level, 2:33:11.840 --> 2:33:14.040 it really is. He does so many things well on 2:33:14.120 --> 2:33:17.160 a football field, it's gonna be tough to to see him. 2:33:17.920 --> 2:33:21.480 It was tough to see a non quarterback go here, Brian. 2:33:21.520 --> 2:33:24.240 I mean, he was as confident as anybody was right 2:33:24.280 --> 2:33:25.800 there with you. I thought this was going to be 2:33:25.840 --> 2:33:28.000 either pick it or Willis because of the way they 2:33:28.040 --> 2:33:30.920 went up and jumped up to make the selection at twelve. 2:33:31.280 --> 2:33:33.480 But the fact that it's it is Williams shows just 2:33:33.680 --> 2:33:36.480 how highly they regarded Let's focus on the enemy. Now, 2:33:36.800 --> 2:33:39.520 Why is Philadelphia on the clock? Why did they move 2:33:39.600 --> 2:33:42.119 to get here? How he loves himself a deal, That's why. 2:33:42.680 --> 2:33:45.480 That's you knew, like from the very jump, when when 2:33:45.520 --> 2:33:49.039 the Eagles had three first round picks, you knew they 2:33:49.080 --> 2:33:51.040 weren't making them all that's never gonna have. This is 2:33:51.080 --> 2:33:53.160 an even trade. By the way, this one comes out 2:33:53.200 --> 2:33:58.280 pretty even because Philadelphia has given up fifteen UM one 2:33:58.560 --> 2:34:01.760 twenty four, one sixty two, one sixty six just to 2:34:01.840 --> 2:34:04.560 go up two spots. But those picks, the difference totals 2:34:04.640 --> 2:34:06.280 up to ninety six, and there was one hundred point 2:34:06.280 --> 2:34:08.880 gap there between fifteen and thirteen. Let's get some names 2:34:08.920 --> 2:34:11.520 out there, fellas. What are we looking at? Bobby Man 2:34:11.600 --> 2:34:14.240 I burks, I guess I don't. I don't know what 2:34:14.360 --> 2:34:18.080 they're going up for. Kyle Hamilton, maybe Hamilton. Maybe they 2:34:18.160 --> 2:34:20.480 like Kyle Hamilton. Are they trying to jump Baltimore? Do 2:34:20.560 --> 2:34:22.480 they like Jordan Davis? About to say this might be 2:34:22.600 --> 2:34:24.720 for Jordan Davis. You're right about that. I was about 2:34:24.760 --> 2:34:27.280 to say that. And if they lose Jordan Davis, does 2:34:27.320 --> 2:34:30.080 Baltimore want to bail out? Does Dallas call m it'd 2:34:30.120 --> 2:34:33.720 be funny. This was to replace Jalen Hurts. So the 2:34:34.280 --> 2:34:38.039 fifteenth pick now belongs to the Houston Texans. Yeas we're 2:34:38.080 --> 2:34:41.920 talking about all right, So the Eagles are on the clock. Uh, 2:34:42.000 --> 2:34:44.520 they look like they won the Carson Wentz deal. They're 2:34:44.560 --> 2:34:46.959 they're they're they're got to be going for Jordan Davis here. 2:34:47.240 --> 2:34:49.760 They're they're get ready for that. I think this is 2:34:49.800 --> 2:34:55.720 where everybody's been talking about Baltimore taking this mammoth defensive tackle. Yeah. 2:34:55.959 --> 2:34:59.360 And and and if you follow guys on our sister 2:34:59.480 --> 2:35:02.480 station b P there in Philadelphia, they were they were 2:35:02.560 --> 2:35:05.640 talking about the perfect pick, the perfect pick, you know, 2:35:05.680 --> 2:35:07.640 when they were starting to talk about their guys, Jordan 2:35:07.720 --> 2:35:09.480 Davis was a guy that they were trying to talk 2:35:09.520 --> 2:35:12.920 about there, So tell us about him. What's not to 2:35:12.959 --> 2:35:15.480 say about this guy? I mean, he is mammoth, you know, 2:35:15.600 --> 2:35:17.760 and and he's a monster. Yeah. And it's just the 2:35:17.920 --> 2:35:20.480 rare ability, you know, it's that it's just that, you know, 2:35:20.520 --> 2:35:22.280 we talk about these guys that are so big and 2:35:22.360 --> 2:35:25.240 how will they move? And he's active and he's I mean, 2:35:25.360 --> 2:35:27.360 and I was talking to scouts about him the other day. 2:35:27.760 --> 2:35:29.720 It's not that he takes up two blockers, he takes 2:35:29.800 --> 2:35:31.920 up three. You know. That's the kind of thing that 2:35:32.000 --> 2:35:34.320 you have to do with. I mean, it's hard to 2:35:34.520 --> 2:35:38.600 get him off his spot because he's that big. What 2:35:38.720 --> 2:35:41.720 are the Knox against him to cause him to come 2:35:41.800 --> 2:35:43.760 here at thirteen when some people just think he's a 2:35:43.959 --> 2:35:47.000 top five talent. He very well could be a top 2:35:47.080 --> 2:35:50.000 five player in the draft. It's the factor of at Georgia, 2:35:50.280 --> 2:35:53.040 he was only utilized in two down situations. He did 2:35:53.120 --> 2:35:57.840 not play as at times he Yeah, DeVante Wyatt was 2:35:57.959 --> 2:36:00.440 just as successful from a defensive tackles and point at 2:36:00.480 --> 2:36:04.040 times on that defense. It was basically the communication or 2:36:04.120 --> 2:36:08.080 excuse me, the conflict of whether or not it was 2:36:08.160 --> 2:36:10.520 because the guys around him were so good or because 2:36:10.560 --> 2:36:13.280 he was so good. I certainly think Jordan Davis is 2:36:13.320 --> 2:36:15.680 a phenomenal player, and I think he should be a 2:36:15.840 --> 2:36:17.960 top ten pick, or at least has top ten talent 2:36:18.000 --> 2:36:21.480 in this draft. He's gonna go exceptionally high because of 2:36:21.520 --> 2:36:23.680 his traits. I don't think teams really care about the 2:36:23.760 --> 2:36:25.600 fact that he was only used in two downs. Okay, 2:36:26.080 --> 2:36:28.800 let's be honest too about football. We see this stage 2:36:28.800 --> 2:36:30.840 and I got in a discussion with people about this, 2:36:30.920 --> 2:36:33.360 about oh, only we're gonna play thirty five the snaps 2:36:33.560 --> 2:36:36.280 the nickel, and someone goes, well, well, how about how 2:36:36.280 --> 2:36:39.720 many snaps his tank playing a game forty forty five fifty, 2:36:39.800 --> 2:36:42.640 I mean, how many snaps all these defensive linemen. But 2:36:42.800 --> 2:36:45.240 you talk about if you're playing nickel, maybe this guy's 2:36:45.280 --> 2:36:48.720 coming off the field, but the other times that he plays, 2:36:48.879 --> 2:36:50.720 you're not going to run the ball on these guys. 2:36:51.240 --> 2:36:53.200 You know. That's the thing about it is and there's 2:36:53.480 --> 2:36:56.320 everybody plays in a rotating system. Now, yeah, you know, 2:36:56.480 --> 2:36:59.000 so drafted a guy like this, the one technique makes 2:36:59.000 --> 2:37:02.000 a lot of sense if they if they pick him. 2:37:02.200 --> 2:37:04.480 Been a lot to talk about Fletcher Cox leaving there, 2:37:05.040 --> 2:37:08.560 multiple rumors, so and and Howie Roseman is obsessed with 2:37:08.760 --> 2:37:12.400 addressing the defensive line. I mean Fletcher Cox, Derek Barnett, 2:37:12.640 --> 2:37:16.640 Jordan Davis, if he's the pick um Graham going way back, 2:37:17.120 --> 2:37:20.160 Brandon Graham. I mean, they they throw resources at their 2:37:20.200 --> 2:37:22.120 defensive line all the time. I was hoping they go 2:37:22.240 --> 2:37:27.879 receiver again again because they keep missing there. But maybe Howie, 2:37:28.280 --> 2:37:31.439 uh the Belichick of the NFC in terms of evaluating 2:37:31.480 --> 2:37:33.640 wideouts is like, no, let's go with the big fellow 2:37:33.879 --> 2:37:36.520 and brought us is right about all these rumors that right, 2:37:36.640 --> 2:37:40.480 the pick that you always want always seems to fall 2:37:40.600 --> 2:37:43.280 like to the Ravens, it's like, oh are you serious, 2:37:43.400 --> 2:37:46.480 Oh my gosh. Every year. Actually that's a wonderful point. Sean, 2:37:46.560 --> 2:37:48.960 Like if Jordan Davis is the play is the pick. 2:37:49.480 --> 2:37:53.600 Thank god, somebody finally got in front of the bald range. 2:37:54.120 --> 2:37:56.960 It's like, it's like, I remember, remember I Todd he 2:37:57.600 --> 2:38:01.600 Todd heat the Ravens win the Super Bowl and they're like, 2:38:01.600 --> 2:38:03.240 what do they need? They need a tight end? The 2:38:03.400 --> 2:38:05.400 best damn tight end goes all the way down to 2:38:05.480 --> 2:38:08.879 thirty two. Yeah, and they dropped him every freaking year, 2:38:09.040 --> 2:38:12.480 every year. And how he's like enough enough of this. 2:38:12.680 --> 2:38:14.680 You know, I'm interested though with with you know, they 2:38:14.760 --> 2:38:18.080 got Hardgrave there too. I mean, does does Hardgrave? Is 2:38:18.120 --> 2:38:20.800 that like a you know, with Javin Hargrave? Does that A? 2:38:21.200 --> 2:38:23.120 Is that? Do you move him to three? Is that a? 2:38:23.920 --> 2:38:25.720 Is he a one? What is I mean? If you 2:38:25.840 --> 2:38:28.800 draft this guy? We're three now? They also really like 2:38:29.240 --> 2:38:31.720 as a future at three technique, they really like Milton Williams. 2:38:31.800 --> 2:38:35.720 Milton Williams Yeah, and a third round pick for those guys. Yeah. 2:38:35.840 --> 2:38:38.080 So the Eagles, I mean, I think we can all agree, 2:38:38.440 --> 2:38:41.680 but grudgingly, they had a very nice season, was supposed 2:38:41.680 --> 2:38:43.960 to be, you know, a year in which many people 2:38:44.000 --> 2:38:45.880 had them fourth place in the NFC East. This is 2:38:45.920 --> 2:38:51.080 a judgment year for Jalen Hurts. Uh, and they're always aggressive, 2:38:51.080 --> 2:38:53.120 and they're being aggressive. They got their one for next 2:38:53.200 --> 2:38:55.560 year when these quarterbacks, so they got multiple picks, and 2:38:55.879 --> 2:38:57.760 so if they don't like what Hurts is doing, then 2:38:58.080 --> 2:39:00.560 they could draft a quarterback. It's funny. And look, I 2:39:00.680 --> 2:39:02.959 know I know where we are, I know who We're 2:39:03.160 --> 2:39:06.360 a Cowboys station. But like I've always I admire the 2:39:06.400 --> 2:39:08.320 way the Eagles run their front office, and I think 2:39:08.360 --> 2:39:11.800 it's interesting. Like it seems like Eagles fans have been 2:39:11.879 --> 2:39:14.840 mad at Howie in recent years because that twenty seventeen 2:39:14.879 --> 2:39:18.600 team has fallen apart. But hatible name. I mean, sure, 2:39:18.680 --> 2:39:21.080 how Yeah, you know you can pick at that a lot. 2:39:21.240 --> 2:39:24.640 I just I'll take his track record throw in a 2:39:24.680 --> 2:39:26.360 super Bowl on top of it. I think they do 2:39:26.440 --> 2:39:29.440 a damn good job of keeping their roster maintained. All right, 2:39:29.560 --> 2:39:32.480 So the Eagles are on the clock, they pick is in. 2:39:33.400 --> 2:39:35.400 We got the Eagles and the Ravens picks are and 2:39:35.440 --> 2:39:37.520 apparently we're just waiting for TV to catch up. Of 2:39:37.600 --> 2:39:40.440 course we're just sitting around now there. Texans are on 2:39:40.480 --> 2:39:42.160 the clock at fifteen. We've got two picks in that 2:39:42.240 --> 2:39:44.560 are just outstanding that we're waiting for. All Right, let's 2:39:44.600 --> 2:39:48.920 go to the commissioner as he has some company on stage, 2:39:49.400 --> 2:39:52.240 and Roger Goodell is going to make the selection. Brian 2:39:52.320 --> 2:39:56.360 brought us be quiet, i'p here at the podium on 2:39:56.440 --> 2:40:00.600 one O five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 2:40:00.840 --> 2:40:03.360 This is a radio technique of dragging it out to 2:40:03.600 --> 2:40:09.360 Roger talks hit it. Joining me for the Eagles pick 2:40:09.440 --> 2:40:13.680 are six high school tackle and flag football captains from 2:40:13.720 --> 2:40:26.119 teams across Clark County in Las Vegas. They truly exemplified 2:40:26.240 --> 2:40:32.000 the NFL's values of respect, integrity, resiliency, and responsibility to 2:40:32.080 --> 2:40:35.679 their teams. Congratulations to all of you on your accomplishments 2:40:35.720 --> 2:40:41.040 of good luck on the upcoming season. Welcome. The Houston 2:40:41.160 --> 2:40:45.600 Texas have traded the thirteenth pick to the Philadelphia Eagles. 2:40:47.680 --> 2:40:51.840 We're the thirteenth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. 2:40:52.800 --> 2:40:57.240 The Philadelphia Eagles select Jordan Davis. There we go, defensive 2:40:57.320 --> 2:41:02.760 tackle Georgia. Good guys, well done. Let's come back to 2:41:02.840 --> 2:41:05.360 talk about that and we'll set you up for the 2:41:05.560 --> 2:41:07.480 rest of the board. Is We've had a lot of 2:41:07.560 --> 2:41:11.160 movement here in the last few selections, so it's gonna 2:41:11.200 --> 2:41:14.200 be Baltimore on the clock, followed by the Texans and 2:41:14.320 --> 2:41:17.080 then the Commanders who moved down. This is the twenty 2:41:17.200 --> 2:41:21.120 twenty two NFL Draft. It just started getting fun. I'm 2:41:21.120 --> 2:41:22.840 one O five through the fan and the Dallas Cowboys 2:41:22.879 --> 2:41:29.840 Readio network. So now that Jordan Davis is off the board, 2:41:29.879 --> 2:41:32.560 I'm gonna go I'm gonna circle right back to Baltimore. 2:41:32.600 --> 2:41:34.880 And we were just talking about how, oh, finally somebody 2:41:35.200 --> 2:41:38.240 ends the reign of terror, Baltimore making great picks, and 2:41:38.280 --> 2:41:41.520 I'm looking at my board and there's one red, blinking, 2:41:41.640 --> 2:41:44.480 glaring light in Kyle Hamilton's sitting on the board here 2:41:44.840 --> 2:41:48.800 for Baltimore at fourteen. If they pick Kyle Hamilton's, I 2:41:48.840 --> 2:41:51.160 feel like that ragin of terror just continues. That's a 2:41:51.240 --> 2:41:55.000 top five player in this draft point and he is 2:41:55.320 --> 2:41:58.120 still sitting here at fourteen. Maybe it may not be 2:41:58.160 --> 2:41:59.960 the reign of terror of Jordan Davis, which, by the way, 2:42:00.560 --> 2:42:02.480 the Cowboys are not gonna have to see not only 2:42:02.800 --> 2:42:05.040 Cabon Thibodeau twice a year, but now they're gonna have 2:42:05.080 --> 2:42:07.600 to see Jordan Davis twice a year on the opposite side. 2:42:08.120 --> 2:42:09.720 Do you agree with that, Brian? This would be a 2:42:09.800 --> 2:42:12.880 heck of a fortune of fall. Yeah, I really. You know, 2:42:13.000 --> 2:42:16.440 when you when you start to talk about, uh, you know, 2:42:17.160 --> 2:42:19.440 what is this guy wearing? Is he wearing the red 2:42:19.560 --> 2:42:22.960 tape around the jersey's got a little sash. It's like 2:42:23.280 --> 2:42:25.920 he's just sash colors. Yeah, he's he's got it. It's 2:42:25.959 --> 2:42:29.840 like a it looks like a soccer jersey. It's kind 2:42:29.840 --> 2:42:32.200 of an interesting look. But yeah, I'll say this though, 2:42:32.480 --> 2:42:37.960 the Ravens, they usually don't get blindsided by stuff. And 2:42:38.400 --> 2:42:40.800 you know, and I think this is what happens when 2:42:41.400 --> 2:42:45.800 there's such coverage of the NFL draft and there's so 2:42:45.959 --> 2:42:49.680 many mock drafts now, and there's so many people talking, 2:42:49.760 --> 2:42:52.360 and there's so much pressure, like, hey, so and so 2:42:52.560 --> 2:42:54.320 told me this, so and so. I mean, look what 2:42:54.400 --> 2:42:56.920 we've done here the last month or so. I mean, 2:42:56.959 --> 2:42:58.720 look what we've done with the draft show and things 2:42:58.800 --> 2:43:01.560 like that. I kind of feel like though that there 2:43:01.760 --> 2:43:03.320 used to be a time where teams were kind of 2:43:03.440 --> 2:43:06.120 be able to not telegraph stuff enough, you know, they 2:43:06.240 --> 2:43:09.360 like they could keep things under wrap. Think at you guys, 2:43:09.520 --> 2:43:11.840 basically I'm not kissing girls for your end, but you're 2:43:11.879 --> 2:43:15.000 basically calling the picks and predicting it. Imagine working for 2:43:15.080 --> 2:43:17.200 a team. Well, that's the thing about it is that 2:43:17.360 --> 2:43:19.080 you go in when you're doing these mock drafts to 2:43:19.200 --> 2:43:22.400 the team the benefits. You know, back in the day, 2:43:22.640 --> 2:43:25.160 we didn't have the benefit of like, oh, well, Daniel 2:43:25.240 --> 2:43:27.640 Jeremiah is doing a mock draft, Bobby Belt's doing a 2:43:27.720 --> 2:43:30.600 mock draft. Oh Bucky Brooks is doing a So you 2:43:30.959 --> 2:43:33.440 you almost had to do it yourself. And now and 2:43:33.520 --> 2:43:35.320 when you go in and you're starting to study about 2:43:35.360 --> 2:43:38.800 these teams, you're kind of like going, oh, well, what 2:43:39.040 --> 2:43:41.080 is there? What is their beat? Writers are saying? What 2:43:41.200 --> 2:43:44.160 are fans saying about? And you could start projecting if 2:43:44.200 --> 2:43:47.760 the names keep showing up enough, then, like, I think 2:43:47.840 --> 2:43:50.280 how in them had an idea that Baltimore was a 2:43:50.360 --> 2:43:54.200 team that was really looked at. George Baltimore doesn't say 2:43:54.360 --> 2:43:58.440 anything right, Baltimore is not a leaking team. But all 2:43:58.440 --> 2:44:00.320 of a sudden, there just was enough up of a 2:44:00.440 --> 2:44:04.760 ground swell that people thought perfect fit, perfect fit in 2:44:04.879 --> 2:44:08.040 Philadelphia's like, hell with that, let's go ahead of them. Yeah, 2:44:08.240 --> 2:44:10.960 you know, And so I kind of feel like though 2:44:11.080 --> 2:44:15.560 that the Ravens, I don't know if they got blindsided, 2:44:15.600 --> 2:44:18.120 but they kind of had an idea that potentially something 2:44:18.240 --> 2:44:19.920 like this was gonna happen. And the Ravens are one 2:44:19.959 --> 2:44:22.400 of these teams. I mean you covered him for a while. 2:44:22.400 --> 2:44:25.160 I mean you're from there. They just sitting there and 2:44:25.200 --> 2:44:27.360 make the pick. Yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna 2:44:27.400 --> 2:44:30.039 freak out, They're not gonna panic. I know Eric da 2:44:30.120 --> 2:44:32.520 Costa who took over for Ozzie and he was a 2:44:32.840 --> 2:44:35.760 Ozzie's protege, and they'll just say, all right, we'll just 2:44:35.879 --> 2:44:37.600 pick the next player. We get the homework, we'll take 2:44:37.600 --> 2:44:39.480 the next one. Well. And also going on the back 2:44:39.600 --> 2:44:43.960 end of what Brian saying here, seeing these scenarios working 2:44:44.000 --> 2:44:45.520 out in the way that it's worked out right now, 2:44:46.160 --> 2:44:49.360 Bobby came into today and credit to Bobby saying that 2:44:49.520 --> 2:44:51.680 his gut feeling was that the Cowboys would trade up 2:44:51.720 --> 2:44:54.720 and go get Trevor Penning. If right now at fourteen, 2:44:55.120 --> 2:44:57.640 Kyle Hamilton indeed is the pick, and I'm once again 2:44:57.640 --> 2:44:59.640 I'm not looking at anything. I've got my own board 2:44:59.640 --> 2:45:01.959 in front of I mean, if Kyle Hamilton's the pig, 2:45:02.400 --> 2:45:05.400 then we go to fifteen, the Houston Texans are sitting there, 2:45:05.480 --> 2:45:08.280 then it's the Commanders, then it's the Chargers in fifteen, 2:45:08.320 --> 2:45:11.160 sixteen seventeen. Yeah, that could be a target area where 2:45:11.200 --> 2:45:12.960 the Cowboys don't have to give up a ton. They 2:45:13.000 --> 2:45:15.440 could still keep their second round pick and still go 2:45:15.600 --> 2:45:17.520 up and get a guy like Trevor Penning who's staying 2:45:17.560 --> 2:45:19.920 on the board through the mid teens. Here. Yeah, I 2:45:20.040 --> 2:45:22.280 think that the mind field again you're gonna have to 2:45:22.400 --> 2:45:26.080 walk is that Chargers at seventeen. You know, I mean 2:45:26.200 --> 2:45:28.120 we we were talking about who are the players that 2:45:28.800 --> 2:45:30.920 like with Zion Johnson, what are the what are the 2:45:31.000 --> 2:45:33.920 teams if you're interested in Zion Johnson, I'm here in 2:45:34.000 --> 2:45:37.480 offensive lineman at the Chargers. You know very well what 2:45:37.680 --> 2:45:40.960 New Orleans right there, right at at nineteen is that 2:45:41.160 --> 2:45:43.520 is that it's still got is that still their picks? 2:45:44.080 --> 2:45:46.600 You know? New Orleans could use an offensive tackle right there. 2:45:46.840 --> 2:45:49.160 You know we were mentioned in that, you know, so 2:45:49.440 --> 2:45:52.240 to me, I kind of feel like though that you 2:45:52.320 --> 2:45:54.800 know that you're gonna have to deal with New England 2:45:54.959 --> 2:45:56.840 is another one that you're gonna have to do it. See. 2:45:56.879 --> 2:46:00.200 See there's there's these tackles, these offensive technically if you're 2:46:00.200 --> 2:46:01.800 thinking about trying to get for Penny you might have 2:46:01.920 --> 2:46:04.320 to go up, like you know, you're gonna have to 2:46:04.440 --> 2:46:08.040 maybe find a way to get up to head of 2:46:08.080 --> 2:46:11.680 the Chargers if you can there with Washington on the 2:46:11.720 --> 2:46:14.960 clock there, all right, let's get ready with the Ravens 2:46:15.360 --> 2:46:21.119 on the clock, followed by the Texans and Washington. Nobody 2:46:21.360 --> 2:46:24.280 paid me or asked me to say this, but pretty good. 2:46:25.959 --> 2:46:29.000 Do we need to take some in there? Yeah? Probably 2:46:31.040 --> 2:46:33.840 Sean Tree. Brian brought us David Helm and Kyle Yeomans 2:46:33.879 --> 2:46:38.440 and our Cowboys insider Bobby Belt. Things getting very interesting 2:46:38.560 --> 2:46:41.760 with New Orleans moving. The Philadelphia Eagles just jumped to 2:46:41.840 --> 2:46:45.920 Baltimore Ravens. We think to select the monster Jordan Davis, 2:46:45.959 --> 2:46:48.920 and now Baltimore's pick his in. Here's Roger Goodell at 2:46:48.959 --> 2:46:52.960 the podium and number fourteen. In the twenty twenty two 2:46:53.320 --> 2:47:01.360 NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Kyle Hamilton, defensive Notre Dame. 2:47:01.840 --> 2:47:05.119 All right, good call Kyle Yeoman's. Just when we're laughing 2:47:05.160 --> 2:47:08.240 at Baltimore, they're like, okay, we'll take a player that 2:47:08.400 --> 2:47:11.000 some had in the top six or seven. Gosh, that's 2:47:11.000 --> 2:47:14.039 such a Baltimore pig. Yeah, they do. They do things 2:47:14.080 --> 2:47:16.240 too well. Up there to be thrown off too hard 2:47:16.280 --> 2:47:19.320 by Jordan Davis. Oh Man, Jordan Davis is off the board. 2:47:19.400 --> 2:47:21.480 Let's go get the long range. He defensive back that 2:47:21.600 --> 2:47:24.200 takes snaps all over the field. He has that high motor. 2:47:24.280 --> 2:47:28.080 He has the ability to play all around the entire defense. 2:47:28.160 --> 2:47:29.520 He can play in the box, he can play in 2:47:29.560 --> 2:47:32.039 the deep third, plays in the slot. He's a coverage 2:47:32.080 --> 2:47:35.320 guy at times, Brian, and you mentioned earlier there's some 2:47:35.920 --> 2:47:39.160 con in terms of his change of direction, maybe a 2:47:39.240 --> 2:47:41.440 step in the bucket from time to time, but ultimately 2:47:41.920 --> 2:47:45.720 this is the most rangey and athletically talented corner or 2:47:45.760 --> 2:47:48.200 excuse me, safety that we've seen him a couple of years. Yeah, 2:47:48.280 --> 2:47:51.160 and you know, it's funny because some of these you 2:47:51.200 --> 2:47:53.600 can literally watch him play in the slot. And I 2:47:53.640 --> 2:47:55.880 don't know if I really want him to cover in 2:47:55.959 --> 2:47:59.240 the slot all the time, but as a changeup. But 2:47:59.360 --> 2:48:02.080 what's interesting also two is the Baltimore Ravens with a 2:48:02.120 --> 2:48:05.240 new defensive coordinator there, Wink Martindale no longer. Now Wink 2:48:05.400 --> 2:48:08.560 is at the Giants, You're gonna have to worry about him. So, yeah, 2:48:08.640 --> 2:48:11.160 this is a team that always we talk about it 2:48:11.200 --> 2:48:13.600 at the drafts the way they're able to. They don't 2:48:13.640 --> 2:48:16.240 get faced by that who's the next best defensive player 2:48:16.320 --> 2:48:19.000 on their board? That's when the tags and stuff are, 2:48:19.160 --> 2:48:22.360 you know, taken down. And Kyle Hamilton clearly is on 2:48:22.520 --> 2:48:24.800 my board. He was the eleventh best player, so kind 2:48:24.840 --> 2:48:26.880 of right where he I think he was going to 2:48:26.920 --> 2:48:31.000 be taken. Twenty three no longer belongs to the Arizona Cardinals. 2:48:31.879 --> 2:48:34.960 Okay they have. The Ravens have traded Hollywood brown and 2:48:35.120 --> 2:48:38.520 pick number one hundred twenty three. Okay, so we're getting wild, 2:48:39.000 --> 2:48:41.560 now we are. We're getting wild here. Hollywood just went 2:48:41.680 --> 2:48:45.400 where to the Cardinals? Of the Cardinals? Whoa? So the 2:48:45.520 --> 2:48:47.240 Ravens need a receiver? And are they gonn Let's get 2:48:47.240 --> 2:48:49.200 ahead of Dallas for Burks. I don't know, but the 2:48:49.280 --> 2:48:52.199 Cardinals just solved. If they were going to get ahead 2:48:52.200 --> 2:48:53.840 of somebody, you would think it would be the Packers 2:48:53.879 --> 2:48:57.120 because there's been smoke there about Burks as well. Wow, 2:48:57.640 --> 2:49:00.760 so the Texans are on the clock. Washington is then 2:49:00.840 --> 2:49:04.800 picking next at number sixteen. That it's already in for Houston. 2:49:05.280 --> 2:49:09.640 Arizona has gone from the first round. Now yep, so 2:49:09.879 --> 2:49:14.200 that take that Seger So that is why do you 2:49:14.280 --> 2:49:16.200 say that, because Peter Scheger's got in the pick right 2:49:16.240 --> 2:49:18.040 four years in a row he was, he was, that's 2:49:18.240 --> 2:49:19.840 called the trade up. Yeah he didn't, but that's what 2:49:19.920 --> 2:49:22.360 you're worried about because he two years. I mean, the 2:49:22.480 --> 2:49:25.800 last two last mock drafts were Zion Johnson. You know, 2:49:26.120 --> 2:49:28.360 this thing is kind of I think is actually, you know, 2:49:28.440 --> 2:49:30.760 we'll see. I mean, I know there's some teams that 2:49:30.920 --> 2:49:33.040 need some of these offensive linemen and stuff like that, 2:49:33.280 --> 2:49:35.879 but you like the way it's kind of lining up 2:49:35.920 --> 2:49:38.000 for the Cowboys right now. I think I'm okay with 2:49:38.080 --> 2:49:40.160 what's what's what's going on right now. I'm glad to 2:49:40.240 --> 2:49:43.160 get Arizona out of the way, you know, I really am. 2:49:43.520 --> 2:49:45.320 I think that was a team if you're interested in 2:49:45.480 --> 2:49:48.080 Zion Johnson, that was a team I kind of because 2:49:48.120 --> 2:49:51.280 again Peter Schreeger, Bobby just mentioned the last four years 2:49:51.400 --> 2:49:54.440 he's nailed Arizona's mock and what do you do this 2:49:54.600 --> 2:49:57.480 first mock he picked Zion Johnson. Second mock, he picked 2:49:57.560 --> 2:50:01.560 Zion Johnson. So that was something plugged in. I mean absolutely. 2:50:01.720 --> 2:50:04.119 He was kind of the first nationally to talk about 2:50:04.200 --> 2:50:07.959 Trayvon Walker going one. Yeah, and he is tight with McVeigh, 2:50:08.040 --> 2:50:09.760 so he's going to get the Rams pick as well 2:50:10.760 --> 2:50:15.400 well on Saturday at like five o'clock the fourth. I mean, 2:50:15.440 --> 2:50:17.800 you're not wrong. He will get it right. I'm just 2:50:17.920 --> 2:50:21.480 trying to think. I'm doing math here thinking. Okay, guys, 2:50:21.600 --> 2:50:25.039 we think the Cowboys, like Burke's is still there, Zion's 2:50:25.080 --> 2:50:28.440 still there, Green is still there, Penning is still there. 2:50:29.640 --> 2:50:33.160 That's what I'm saying. Lloyd is still there. I'm at 2:50:33.200 --> 2:50:35.600 this point do they sit and they just go? Somebody 2:50:35.640 --> 2:50:38.320 will be there. I think they're going to. I really do. 2:50:39.120 --> 2:50:41.240 Depends on how hell ben't they are on getting an 2:50:41.280 --> 2:50:43.720 offensive line. Bobby first round. You've been really good about 2:50:43.760 --> 2:50:47.560 analyzing the ups and downs with the with the price 2:50:47.720 --> 2:50:51.279 to go up, Are we still in a good buyers market? 2:50:51.320 --> 2:50:53.560 Are we? Are we starting to flip this thing around? 2:50:53.600 --> 2:50:55.039 I mean it changes it a little bit just because 2:50:55.080 --> 2:50:56.680 you don't know, Like, Okay, what does Hollywood Brown w 2:50:56.840 --> 2:50:59.080 here we go with the Texans selection of fifteen? Okay, 2:51:00.240 --> 2:51:06.920 the Houston Texans select Kenyan Green. I'll tell you what. 2:51:07.959 --> 2:51:11.440 When we talked about we talked about this pre show, 2:51:11.600 --> 2:51:15.400 Lantzer line nailed this pick. Lanzer line if we were 2:51:15.440 --> 2:51:19.520 Texans connections. Yeah, the Texas connections up there. He nailed them. Houston, 2:51:20.160 --> 2:51:23.280 he nailed this pick. He and his mock draft, he 2:51:23.400 --> 2:51:26.960 had Kenyon Green going to the Houston to the Hut. 2:51:27.080 --> 2:51:30.840 Producer Troy Hughes, our producer tonight is heartbroken because this 2:51:31.000 --> 2:51:33.760 is the Texas a and m Aggie tell us about him. 2:51:34.520 --> 2:51:37.440 I think this is one of those picks that kind 2:51:37.480 --> 2:51:39.920 of puts your war room in gear if you're the Cowboys, 2:51:39.959 --> 2:51:41.879 because you didn't expect this to happen. There's no way 2:51:42.040 --> 2:51:45.080 outside of zerline, there's no way Kenyan Green was in 2:51:45.120 --> 2:51:47.840 the top fifteen from January on. He was going to 2:51:47.920 --> 2:51:51.680 fall to the to the twenty fours. The questions about 2:51:51.720 --> 2:51:54.440 the knee because of the injury, Yeah, I mean he's 2:51:54.560 --> 2:51:57.680 He's a fantastic football player. You talk about exceptional lower 2:51:57.760 --> 2:52:01.120 body strength. He plays with strong hands, doesn't let go, 2:52:01.400 --> 2:52:03.600 he doesn't necessarily let go of his blocks at all, 2:52:03.640 --> 2:52:06.119 and he did so against the best competition and all 2:52:06.160 --> 2:52:07.880 over the line of scrimmage for the Agge's in the 2:52:08.040 --> 2:52:11.960 SEC throughout his career. He does have the occasional misstep 2:52:12.040 --> 2:52:14.879 from time to time, as does any lineman that plays 2:52:14.879 --> 2:52:18.000 against that sort of competition, but he's usually able to recover, 2:52:18.400 --> 2:52:20.400 and he's able to move on the run as well. 2:52:20.800 --> 2:52:22.560 The knee is a question mark, and I know the 2:52:22.600 --> 2:52:26.320 Cowboys certainly we're questioning his health moving forward enough to 2:52:26.360 --> 2:52:29.400 take him at twenty four, but at fifteen, that's pretty 2:52:29.440 --> 2:52:31.480 a high price to pay for a guy. They must 2:52:31.520 --> 2:52:33.640 have really liked something they saw in him. If you want, 2:52:33.680 --> 2:52:35.440 if you want me to be honest, and you always 2:52:35.480 --> 2:52:37.400 have to be delicate about this type of stuff, and we, 2:52:37.600 --> 2:52:39.440 I mean, we lay it out there about the concerns. 2:52:39.560 --> 2:52:41.240 I don't know if Dallas would have drafted him at 2:52:41.240 --> 2:52:43.119 twenty four. I don't think they because they were worried 2:52:43.240 --> 2:52:46.480 that worried about the knee. Maybe depending on what was 2:52:46.520 --> 2:52:49.240 available to them, maybe they do it. But I think, 2:52:49.560 --> 2:52:51.800 to use your terminology, Brian, I think this is a 2:52:51.920 --> 2:52:54.680 fake pen throw for the Cowboys where they're like, ah damn, 2:52:54.800 --> 2:52:56.920 somebody else took a chance on the guy with the knee, 2:52:57.680 --> 2:52:59.320 go for it. Yeah, No, just as a player. I 2:52:59.400 --> 2:53:01.440 think they like they love him as a well, but 2:53:01.560 --> 2:53:03.560 I think they're worried enough about his health that they 2:53:03.560 --> 2:53:05.480 wouldn't have done it. Yeah, And I think That's the thing. 2:53:06.280 --> 2:53:09.240 My assumption is that Green would be ranked higher for 2:53:09.360 --> 2:53:12.200 them than Johnson was. But I think they would have 2:53:12.280 --> 2:53:14.640 taken Johnson if it came down to those two. I 2:53:14.680 --> 2:53:16.400 think they would have taken Johnson at that point. And 2:53:16.680 --> 2:53:19.400 me saying that this gets you into gear from a 2:53:19.440 --> 2:53:21.640 war room standpoint, is as high as he was taken 2:53:21.920 --> 2:53:25.400 because even with the concern around his health and around 2:53:25.440 --> 2:53:27.640 the knee, they still expected him to go in the 2:53:27.720 --> 2:53:29.920 twenties or at least that's what the thought process is. 2:53:29.959 --> 2:53:33.160 That he was going to wait until the latter half 2:53:33.200 --> 2:53:35.040 of the first round. He wasn't supposed to go in 2:53:35.120 --> 2:53:38.359 the teams. Now does the price go up on Zion Johnson? 2:53:38.560 --> 2:53:42.120 That's my thing is is Trevor Penning Zion Johnson? Is 2:53:42.160 --> 2:53:44.520 are these the last chance efforts to go up and 2:53:44.600 --> 2:53:47.640 get an offensive tackle or an offensive guard if they 2:53:47.720 --> 2:53:50.760 wanted to really upgrade the offensive line spot. So now 2:53:50.840 --> 2:53:53.760 we need to do some math, not just trade math 2:53:54.000 --> 2:53:57.480 Washington on the clock, by the way, but count the 2:53:57.720 --> 2:54:01.360 players that you'd be happy with on your board falling 2:54:01.720 --> 2:54:04.640 to twenty four. How much we think are the Cowboys 2:54:05.160 --> 2:54:09.440 both I think right now you're looking at primarily in 2:54:09.520 --> 2:54:12.080 my opinion, I think you'd be looking at Penning, Zion Johnson, 2:54:12.160 --> 2:54:14.800 and Trailing Burks. Yeah, those are the three names I had. Yep, 2:54:15.720 --> 2:54:19.680 maybe a Devin Lloyd in there a few more. That's 2:54:19.720 --> 2:54:23.520 only three. That gets me to eighteen. It's well, I mean, yeah, 2:54:23.680 --> 2:54:27.320 so pick sixteen is in for Washington. Chargers are on 2:54:27.360 --> 2:54:30.280 the clock. The thing is that where your offensive line 2:54:30.360 --> 2:54:33.400 threats here between you and between now and your pick? 2:54:33.600 --> 2:54:38.240 Chargers are they are? The Saints? Are the Patriots are? Yeah? 2:54:38.600 --> 2:54:41.199 The Patriots I was hearing. I was hearing possibly Zion 2:54:41.320 --> 2:54:46.000 Johnson or Lloyd linebacker. Yeah. Yeah, It's funny. All the 2:54:46.080 --> 2:54:49.480 guys we said Washington loved are gone, Like I don't 2:54:49.520 --> 2:54:52.760 know what I don't know what they do here? Receiver 2:54:53.120 --> 2:54:57.400 take a tackle? Is there? Receiver? Who are the receivers left? Burst? Um, 2:54:58.440 --> 2:55:04.320 there's Burks, there's Pickings, there's Hants, and that would be 2:55:04.680 --> 2:55:08.680 that would be shocked. They just are we going to 2:55:08.800 --> 2:55:11.880 get the Cowboys war room camera this year? I think 2:55:12.000 --> 2:55:13.720 it's been up a couple it's been up a couple 2:55:13.720 --> 2:55:15.840 of times. It's been a little it's been a little chilling. 2:55:15.920 --> 2:55:17.680 There is right there, Oh there, it is right there. 2:55:17.840 --> 2:55:20.880 Thank you Dallas Cowboys dot com. Uh, and then I 2:55:21.240 --> 2:55:23.959 always like to stalk out that activity to see if 2:55:23.959 --> 2:55:26.560 they're on the phone for any potential trade or move 2:55:26.640 --> 2:55:29.560 up or right now they are sitting and they are chilling. 2:55:30.080 --> 2:55:33.440 JJ's not even in there, not a whole lot of activity. Huh. Yeah, 2:55:33.760 --> 2:55:36.080 they're they're they're sitting back. I think you're sitting there 2:55:36.200 --> 2:55:41.320 just wondering where old mister Zions going or if he will. 2:55:41.440 --> 2:55:43.760 I think they're sweating that one right now. But you know, 2:55:44.000 --> 2:55:46.520 if if you see them start working the phones, you know, 2:55:46.600 --> 2:55:48.880 maybe they feel like that they've got to go and 2:55:49.360 --> 2:55:51.400 you know they can't wait for that. Now. When you 2:55:51.480 --> 2:55:54.440 gave those three names, where those your names or you 2:55:54.480 --> 2:55:56.360 think their names? I think those are their names. Okay, 2:55:56.720 --> 2:55:59.280 I would out of those names, I'm alone. Nobody wants 2:55:59.320 --> 2:56:01.440 fix the offensive line, I would. I love Burks. I 2:56:01.520 --> 2:56:04.760 love trailing Burks at Arkansas. Yeah. I think Stephen Jones 2:56:04.840 --> 2:56:08.320 loves Trail because he went to Arkansas because his son, 2:56:08.520 --> 2:56:11.360 his son was a quarterback. That they know about this player, yeah, 2:56:11.400 --> 2:56:14.600 they absolutely know about this player. And that's the thing 2:56:14.640 --> 2:56:17.080 about it is that I feel like though that maybe 2:56:17.120 --> 2:56:19.920 the coaching staff Bobby correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe 2:56:19.959 --> 2:56:22.440 the coaching staff not as high on this guy. I mean, 2:56:22.480 --> 2:56:24.240 I just think there's probably like a lot of debate 2:56:24.320 --> 2:56:25.640 and a lot of split. I mean, that's what we've 2:56:25.680 --> 2:56:27.640 heard like leaking out recently, right, Like there's a split 2:56:27.720 --> 2:56:29.600 in there, and there's and one of the things that 2:56:29.640 --> 2:56:31.440 I think is important is Robert Prince, I know the 2:56:31.520 --> 2:56:34.879 receiver's coach. He wants polished route runners. That's who who 2:56:34.959 --> 2:56:38.440 he's very high on. And I don't know that that's 2:56:38.520 --> 2:56:41.920 not Burks. Burks is all traits and upside. And it 2:56:42.120 --> 2:56:47.720 was a Maria polished Yeah, Samaria the polished Yes. Sorry, 2:56:47.959 --> 2:56:49.480 oh oh, I get it now. I thought you meant 2:56:49.480 --> 2:56:52.880 as a prospect. I was like, yes, no, yes, yes, 2:56:52.959 --> 2:56:55.320 Amari Cooper is better than whatever they're going to come 2:56:55.320 --> 2:56:57.440 out of this draft with. Probably, you know, I didn't know. 2:56:57.440 --> 2:56:59.280 I wasn't trying to be that negative date. I was 2:56:59.320 --> 2:57:01.800 just trying to do it drive by sarcastic shot. But 2:57:01.879 --> 2:57:04.199 I'd like you like to explain the negativity a little 2:57:04.240 --> 2:57:06.760 bit more. There we go. So here we go. The 2:57:06.959 --> 2:57:10.240 Commander's pick is in with Roger Goodell at the podium, 2:57:10.480 --> 2:57:16.040 number sixteen. Thanks pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, 2:57:16.959 --> 2:57:23.600 the Washington Commanders select John Dudson, whoa wide receivers rich. 2:57:24.440 --> 2:57:26.720 That's really rich. That that would be shocking, And that's 2:57:26.760 --> 2:57:29.600 what happened. All right, We're we're living up to the 2:57:29.680 --> 2:57:34.560 hypeer fellas, there's something well, I mean, we've already seen 2:57:34.600 --> 2:57:38.440 a million trades. We've yes there and there's one coming 2:57:38.520 --> 2:57:40.640 down the line as well. And that's a perfect tease 2:57:40.720 --> 2:57:42.520 on one oh five through the fan and the Dallas 2:57:42.600 --> 2:57:51.440 Cowboys radio network. Y'all. A J. Brown's getting traded to Philadelphia. Yeah, 2:57:51.760 --> 2:57:58.920 that's why the Titans. That makes sense. Wow, Kyle, I 2:57:58.959 --> 2:58:00.920 should have said it when we were back up on 2:58:01.000 --> 2:58:03.400 the stream. A J. Brown's going to Philly, guys for 2:58:04.040 --> 2:58:06.879 that pick. I didn't see the terms because if that's 2:58:06.920 --> 2:58:09.119 the pick, I think this is Burks. All right, reset 2:58:09.160 --> 2:58:11.200 all this. So where are we at here? Let's see 2:58:11.200 --> 2:58:14.959 what pick? Are we at seventeen officially on the television 2:58:15.040 --> 2:58:18.000 side of things, and so Philly's on the clock at eighteen. 2:58:18.160 --> 2:58:21.280 There's been a lot of chatter about Burt Traylan Burks 2:58:21.280 --> 2:58:23.240 to the Packers. Traylan Burks to the Packers, that's who 2:58:23.720 --> 2:58:26.840 who everybody's been connecting them with. With Philly sitting there 2:58:26.840 --> 2:58:28.840 at eighteen, you knew A J. Brown was unhappy. The 2:58:29.200 --> 2:58:32.840 very first comparison I heard for Traylan Burks from an 2:58:32.920 --> 2:58:36.400 NFL scout was AJ Brown eighteenth overall pick and a 2:58:36.760 --> 2:58:39.840 third to be determined. This is Burks. I think this 2:58:40.000 --> 2:58:42.920 is Tennessee going up to get Burks wild because I had, 2:58:43.000 --> 2:58:45.240 I had, and I think I talked about that on 2:58:45.520 --> 2:58:47.880 on G Bag today that that was that I was 2:58:47.959 --> 2:58:50.200 here in Tennessee just trying to jump up ahead of 2:58:50.240 --> 2:58:52.760 Green Bay to get Burks. Um. What do we think 2:58:52.920 --> 2:58:57.039 about Howie Roseman getting a J. Brown to go along 2:58:57.160 --> 2:59:02.320 with Davante? I think that this Eagles team is going 2:59:02.400 --> 2:59:04.840 to be very well positioned for the quarterback that they 2:59:04.959 --> 2:59:08.160 draft to run it next year. That's what I think. 2:59:09.000 --> 2:59:11.200 What did they give up for a J this pick 2:59:11.440 --> 2:59:14.040 and a third round? A third rounder? Here, we have 2:59:14.160 --> 2:59:17.120 a pick is already in for the Chargers. Let's go. 2:59:18.040 --> 2:59:20.880 We might lose our guy here, guys. Twenty two NFL Draft, 2:59:21.760 --> 2:59:29.320 the Los Angeles Chargers select Zion oh Goshen College left 2:59:29.480 --> 2:59:33.199 and then the upper cut. Yeah, in back to back selections. 2:59:33.920 --> 2:59:36.200 Now you are and now you're gonna lose Burks. I think, 2:59:37.280 --> 2:59:40.920 welcome to wipe out scenario. Everybody, Wow, Penning is there 2:59:41.959 --> 2:59:44.480 outside Finning. You're just penning your hopes on that or 2:59:44.600 --> 2:59:47.520 I'm just now that the fact that, the fact that 2:59:47.959 --> 2:59:50.480 the fact that Penning is starting to slip down a 2:59:50.480 --> 2:59:52.080 little bit and stuff just makes me go, Okay, well, 2:59:52.120 --> 2:59:54.800 maybe maybe that was wrong. Maybe I was wrong about 2:59:55.000 --> 2:59:57.440 hearing how much they liked him, because I'm surprised they 2:59:57.440 --> 3:00:00.480 haven't gone up. Man. See that's the thing we were 3:00:00.520 --> 3:00:02.640 talking about it, Bobby. I mean, you had some really 3:00:02.680 --> 3:00:04.280 good intelligence. I know, I was talking to some other 3:00:04.320 --> 3:00:08.440 people around the league seventeen, twenty one, twenty three. Those 3:00:08.480 --> 3:00:12.400 were all Zion Johnson potential landing spots. And now you're 3:00:12.400 --> 3:00:15.560 gonna get Titans take Titans will take Burks. I think. 3:00:15.600 --> 3:00:17.160 I think that's where we're heading here. And then Saints 3:00:17.200 --> 3:00:20.440 at nineteen could that be Penning? There you go? There 3:00:20.520 --> 3:00:22.360 you go. I think now you're now you're looking at 3:00:22.400 --> 3:00:26.040 your wipeout. Yeah, there you are. Hey, Tyler Linderbaum's still there. Everybody, 3:00:26.120 --> 3:00:28.320 let's just keep that in mind. I know they probably 3:00:28.360 --> 3:00:32.000 won't do it, but I would love that so let's 3:00:32.000 --> 3:00:34.760 get used to disappointment in this industry. Let's say okay, 3:00:34.840 --> 3:00:37.920 let's says, let's operate under this this thought. Would it 3:00:38.000 --> 3:00:42.000 goes Burkes and then Penning? Who are we talking about? Tyler? 3:00:42.160 --> 3:00:44.440 Tyler Smith? I think we're talking about Tyler Smith. Wow. 3:00:44.560 --> 3:00:47.800 I would take Lloyd or somebody like that, or bomb 3:00:47.879 --> 3:00:49.360 or I mean, I know they won't do I think 3:00:49.440 --> 3:00:51.280 Lloyd goes to the Patriots or they if they bail 3:00:51.320 --> 3:00:52.920 out me. Yeah, but there's no I don't think there's 3:00:52.920 --> 3:00:54.800 anybody to come up. Well they got Lloyd is a 3:00:54.920 --> 3:00:57.320 name to consider it until he's gone. At least, let's 3:00:57.320 --> 3:01:00.760 put it that should be yeah, Because I think I'm 3:01:00.840 --> 3:01:02.959 again we all we all know this. I don't even 3:01:02.959 --> 3:01:07.280 want to look at Twitter right now. I don't um. 3:01:08.800 --> 3:01:10.680 We know that most of these guys are going to 3:01:10.720 --> 3:01:12.720 be second round grades. Like I think Tyler Smith is 3:01:12.760 --> 3:01:15.039 a second round grade, but I don't know Lloyd's grade. 3:01:15.120 --> 3:01:18.840 Maybe Lloyd is a first round grade and hopefully well 3:01:19.680 --> 3:01:22.480 we know they they play it fast and loose with 3:01:22.560 --> 3:01:24.640 their grades when they need to, though they're not afraid to. 3:01:26.879 --> 3:01:31.000 M man. A lot of the phone's getting worse. I mean, 3:01:32.280 --> 3:01:35.680 I'm looking at my phone and I just well, and Bobby, 3:01:35.720 --> 3:01:37.480 you brought it up a minute ago. You're surprised that 3:01:37.600 --> 3:01:39.800 they haven't gone up yet. They I mean, we've been 3:01:39.840 --> 3:01:41.680 taking peaks in at the war room. They haven't even 3:01:41.720 --> 3:01:44.240 picked up the phone yet. I mean even from a call, 3:01:44.440 --> 3:01:46.080 they haven't picked it up to done. Can we go 3:01:46.120 --> 3:01:47.680 to war room camera now? Can we see if they're 3:01:47.680 --> 3:01:49.880 to call them anybody yet? Well, somebody on a good 3:01:49.920 --> 3:01:52.240 point from somebody on Twitter, it's fair to call this 3:01:52.520 --> 3:01:57.200 this is a Jermaine Johnson free fall at this point. Boy, hey, Brian, 3:01:57.360 --> 3:02:01.120 not for me, Brian, not just for you. Trust your you. 3:02:01.320 --> 3:02:03.480 You can trust your guys because because your people told 3:02:03.480 --> 3:02:05.440 you a long time ago. Media is wrong on Johnson. 3:02:05.480 --> 3:02:07.520 They have Johnson way higher Scoop point. He has brought 3:02:07.560 --> 3:02:10.240 that up on multiple occasions. So they were right, because 3:02:10.280 --> 3:02:11.800 I mean, this is already way higher than people thought 3:02:11.840 --> 3:02:13.600 Johnson was gonna go. It was pick one on one, 3:02:13.680 --> 3:02:18.200 by the way, to add to the pick or the 3:02:18.280 --> 3:02:21.119 trade for a J Brown rather so the Titans get 3:02:21.240 --> 3:02:24.760 pick one on one. This pizza is really good, is it? 3:02:26.600 --> 3:02:29.320 Nobody's paying me or asking me to say it. It's good. 3:02:29.440 --> 3:02:32.120 Thank you, Papa John's very well, that's clutch. I got 3:02:32.160 --> 3:02:35.360 my caffeine fix. Not just ready to go, ready to go? 3:02:35.440 --> 3:02:43.960 We could do it. Yeah, thanks a h. So we 3:02:44.040 --> 3:02:45.760 got two TVs up here. If I get if I 3:02:45.840 --> 3:02:50.200 get my other TV option, I'll be in heaven, be 3:02:50.280 --> 3:03:10.000 ready to go for four am. Here we go. All right, guys, 3:03:10.520 --> 3:03:14.880 it feels like we just took a nasty combination in 3:03:14.959 --> 3:03:17.280 the ring. Maybe I thought it was two shots. It 3:03:17.400 --> 3:03:20.480 may have been three shots right then? With what just 3:03:20.640 --> 3:03:24.199 happened Sean Sharif, Kyle Yeoman's David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys 3:03:24.240 --> 3:03:27.880 dot Com our head scout, Brian brought us and Bobby Belt, 3:03:28.120 --> 3:03:33.480 our Cowboys insider. The Philadelphia Eagles have traded for a J. 3:03:33.760 --> 3:03:37.200 Brown AJ, one of these receivers not happy with his 3:03:37.320 --> 3:03:41.200 current contract situation. He doesn't have to worry about it 3:03:41.400 --> 3:03:45.080 in Tennessee any longer. He's going to the Eagles. And 3:03:45.760 --> 3:03:49.280 what else happened on the board before the Cowboys pick 3:03:49.400 --> 3:03:51.440 at twenty four? As you guys were talking about this 3:03:51.560 --> 3:03:55.400 wipeout scenario. Now, so you get Zion Johnson going seventeen 3:03:55.600 --> 3:03:58.480 to the Chargers. That's somebody they wanted. This is eighteen 3:03:58.520 --> 3:03:59.680 to pick us in. We don't know what it is 3:03:59.760 --> 3:04:03.240 yet to this Tennessee going up. This has gotta be Burkes, Bobby, 3:04:03.320 --> 3:04:05.080 who I kept doing all day. They wanted to go 3:04:05.160 --> 3:04:09.040 up and gets because trailing Burk's receiver in Arkansas. And 3:04:09.160 --> 3:04:12.200 like I said, the very first comp I got from 3:04:12.440 --> 3:04:15.720 somebody in the NFL about Burks was they said, A J. Brown, So, okay, 3:04:15.800 --> 3:04:18.800 let's go get a J. Brown again, jackal and on 3:04:18.879 --> 3:04:20.920 a rookie deal and not upset with things. Well, we'll 3:04:21.000 --> 3:04:22.879 just go get the younger version of them. Now did 3:04:22.920 --> 3:04:26.800 the Cowboys, Brian, how much do they love Johnson Zion Johnson? 3:04:26.879 --> 3:04:29.280 And how much did they like Burks? Yeah? I think 3:04:29.360 --> 3:04:31.320 that to me. When you started that, the hope was 3:04:31.480 --> 3:04:33.400 that maybe you were going to maybe have a chance 3:04:33.480 --> 3:04:36.280 today when the day started, you were going to get Burks, 3:04:36.760 --> 3:04:40.119 Johnson and then also Green. Those were the day, all 3:04:40.160 --> 3:04:42.920 those names, and now they're all likely going to be gone. 3:04:43.040 --> 3:04:45.680 Here A J. Brown just got an extension to what 3:04:45.879 --> 3:04:47.960 is it for four years, one hundred million, fifty seven 3:04:48.000 --> 3:04:53.520 guaranteed a year. It was a mari making. Has a J. 3:04:53.600 --> 3:04:56.800 Brown had a thousand yards season? It's almost as if 3:04:56.840 --> 3:04:59.800 that was a reasonable salary to pay a probram You guys, 3:05:00.000 --> 3:05:03.320 do you guys think that they really misjudged had a 3:05:03.320 --> 3:05:05.560 thousand yards and twenty where the wide receiver market was 3:05:05.640 --> 3:05:11.160 going sidebar because it was hard to see that Tyreek 3:05:11.280 --> 3:05:15.000 was gonna get thirty right, we were at twenty twenty 3:05:15.080 --> 3:05:17.720 one and then took it to twenty five. This might 3:05:17.800 --> 3:05:20.560 have been personal moving on at this point, moving on 3:05:20.680 --> 3:05:23.200 from Amari, like saving money was part of it, But 3:05:23.400 --> 3:05:27.200 there's more to it than that. There's that contract was 3:05:27.320 --> 3:05:29.440 one of the better ones they've done in recent memory 3:05:29.480 --> 3:05:32.040 in terms of like it was. It was an affordable 3:05:32.080 --> 3:05:34.520 price for a guy of his caliber, and they structured 3:05:34.560 --> 3:05:36.200 it so that they could get out of it like 3:05:36.320 --> 3:05:38.240 they It didn't hurt them to trade him. It wouldn't 3:05:38.240 --> 3:05:40.160 have hurt them to cut him. It was a very 3:05:40.240 --> 3:05:42.960 favorable contract and they didn't want it anyway, which leads 3:05:43.000 --> 3:05:45.320 me to believe to Brian's point, it was about more 3:05:45.400 --> 3:05:47.720 than just money. All right, Sorry, bitter side note is 3:05:47.800 --> 3:05:52.200 the biggest gut punch of ball Zion Johnson gone. I 3:05:52.320 --> 3:05:55.000 think the chargers. The fact that both of the guards 3:05:55.040 --> 3:05:57.200 are already gone and we haven't even hit picked twenty. 3:05:57.360 --> 3:05:59.840 That sucks. I think. Yeah, that was the fact that 3:06:00.000 --> 3:06:03.120 they probably had him penciled into maybe play center. You know, 3:06:03.240 --> 3:06:05.240 they were trying to fix some things that way too. 3:06:05.400 --> 3:06:09.200 So we'll see. I'm over. I'm over hearing about this 3:06:09.680 --> 3:06:13.480 positional value stuff like obviously quarterbacks and edge rushers and 3:06:13.560 --> 3:06:16.880 cornerbacks are gonna end tackles like that holds true, but 3:06:17.040 --> 3:06:20.440 people are like cowboys can't take a guard at twenty four. 3:06:20.600 --> 3:06:22.640 That's not good positional value. Okay, Well, the two that 3:06:22.720 --> 3:06:26.240 they were targeting went fifteenth and seventeen. They're gone. Stop. 3:06:26.600 --> 3:06:30.320 So you're looking at a short list of names of Tyler, Linderbaum, 3:06:30.480 --> 3:06:33.520 Tyler Smith. Here we go quick with the Titans selection 3:06:33.640 --> 3:06:39.199 at eighteen. Have traded the eighteenth pick to the Tennessee Titans. 3:06:40.760 --> 3:06:44.240 With the eighteenth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, 3:06:45.040 --> 3:06:50.000 the Tennessee Titans select Trailing Burkes. We'll call Bobby. You 3:06:50.040 --> 3:06:53.119 were on that all day, puzzle pieces, Bobby Bell, well 3:06:53.160 --> 3:06:56.680 done putting them together, putting them together. So now trying 3:06:56.680 --> 3:07:00.600 to put together that list Linderbaum, Tyler Smith, Rever Penning, 3:07:00.800 --> 3:07:04.440 debn Lloyd, Nakobe Dean. That's five names with six picks 3:07:04.480 --> 3:07:08.560 remaining until the Cowboys selected twenty four. You feel pretty 3:07:08.560 --> 3:07:10.119 good that it's going to be one of those guys. 3:07:11.080 --> 3:07:13.160 I mean I feel like right now, I feel like Pennings. 3:07:14.040 --> 3:07:15.600 I don't know, but I feel like Penning could be 3:07:15.600 --> 3:07:18.800 coming here with the Saints at nineteen. Yeah, could be. Um, 3:07:19.480 --> 3:07:21.680 they got to replace Armstead, So I mean he's a 3:07:21.800 --> 3:07:25.080 he's a good athlete like Armstead. Yeah, Um, are we 3:07:25.240 --> 3:07:29.080 fine with a linebackers? On? Who else is there? I 3:07:29.200 --> 3:07:31.160 think I think if they lose Penning in the next 3:07:31.200 --> 3:07:34.400 few picks, I think we're looking at Tyler Smith. Please 3:07:34.440 --> 3:07:37.840 give me. How can I run across the way? You 3:07:38.440 --> 3:07:40.840 can I run? That's how this works. I thought Linder 3:07:40.879 --> 3:07:43.640 Bam was you know a fan favorite? Are you not 3:07:43.760 --> 3:07:47.280 feeling it? Fan favorite? Yeah? And that again that's I mean, 3:07:47.480 --> 3:07:49.120 we joke, but like that's what I always trying to 3:07:49.120 --> 3:07:52.360 tell people. Like, let's talk about him. He Brimington Award 3:07:52.440 --> 3:07:55.760 winner best center in college football, dominated the Big Ten, 3:07:57.200 --> 3:07:59.160 his tape as clean as hell. Man, Like, I mean, 3:07:59.240 --> 3:08:01.280 he gets to the second level, he does all the 3:08:01.320 --> 3:08:03.480 stuff you want your center to do. I've never seen 3:08:03.760 --> 3:08:07.640 I've never seen a player that's traits deficient play as 3:08:07.680 --> 3:08:10.240 great as he does. And I mean trade because I 3:08:10.280 --> 3:08:14.240 thought you guys were gonna have a problem with it. Now. See, 3:08:14.320 --> 3:08:17.120 the league doesn't like him because he's lighting the butt. Yeah, 3:08:17.400 --> 3:08:20.320 and he doesn't have like the ideal like size and 3:08:20.440 --> 3:08:22.360 length that you would ask. This team has a history 3:08:22.400 --> 3:08:24.680 of playing with a small center, Mark Stepnoski. They went 3:08:24.760 --> 3:08:26.720 Super Bowls with a light center. Okay, I get it, 3:08:26.800 --> 3:08:29.520 it's twenty something years ago. But this kid, you watch 3:08:29.640 --> 3:08:32.120 him play, we talk about it. He's smart, he's tough, 3:08:32.760 --> 3:08:35.320 he could cut a defense in half. I mentioned that 3:08:35.440 --> 3:08:38.080 that's the one thing when you watch, when you watch Travis, 3:08:38.240 --> 3:08:45.000 Travis's Travis Frederick is not a difficult name. No I was, no, No, 3:08:45.120 --> 3:08:47.680 I know, but but my thoughts were going to my head. 3:08:47.959 --> 3:08:49.920 But see, that's that's the thing about it is you 3:08:50.000 --> 3:08:52.720 watch him play second level, You watch him reach wide, 3:08:52.800 --> 3:08:55.640 you watch him get out on sweeps and screens and 3:08:55.720 --> 3:08:58.200 stuff like that, and this is what this guy does. 3:08:58.320 --> 3:09:01.200 But they don't want a six two two ninety six 3:09:01.200 --> 3:09:04.400 pounds center. They just don't. I mean, he that's all 3:09:04.480 --> 3:09:06.800 he could play as center. Yeah, you know, so that's 3:09:06.920 --> 3:09:09.160 that's why they probably are against it. That goes back 3:09:09.200 --> 3:09:11.560 to I always frame it this way, but he might 3:09:11.600 --> 3:09:13.560 be the out of the box pick though that Jerry 3:09:13.640 --> 3:09:15.360 Jones was talking. I mean, if they get cleaned out, 3:09:15.360 --> 3:09:16.720 I don't think you can rule it out. But that's 3:09:16.760 --> 3:09:19.040 why I always tell people. I'm like, yeah, I'll give 3:09:19.080 --> 3:09:21.000 you my opinion, but it doesn't matter at the end 3:09:21.040 --> 3:09:22.840 of the day because they're the ones that are over 3:09:22.920 --> 3:09:26.760 there with the telephone. All right, uh so let me 3:09:26.800 --> 3:09:30.039 ask a This might be a dumb question, but Kurloft 3:09:30.160 --> 3:09:33.280 just do anything for anybody. Yeah, I like him. I 3:09:33.320 --> 3:09:35.360 don't know that they I don't think they Yeah, I 3:09:35.400 --> 3:09:37.640 don't know what was your question, Sean, Sorry, my question 3:09:37.760 --> 3:09:41.600 was going to be about their evaluation of offensive Lineman 3:09:41.680 --> 3:09:47.000 as of late, like Tyrnn, Zach Fine, Travis Good, Connor 3:09:47.040 --> 3:09:51.320 Williams just left here. Um Leo Collins. I don't know 3:09:51.520 --> 3:09:53.920 how you grate that the person I think the way 3:09:53.920 --> 3:09:56.520 it worked out, I mean, yeah, be honest, was a 3:09:56.600 --> 3:09:59.840 fourth rounder, but everyone's looking to replace him. How do 3:10:00.040 --> 3:10:02.920 you feel about there? Don't forget about McGovern either, McGovern 3:10:03.560 --> 3:10:06.360 that's probably the biggest one. They were head over second 3:10:06.400 --> 3:10:08.640 round grade on that. So my question is, like you know, 3:10:08.760 --> 3:10:10.960 every team usually like nails a position and we're like, 3:10:11.080 --> 3:10:12.960 all right, there you go, Cowboys offensive lineman. How do 3:10:13.000 --> 3:10:15.520 we feel about that? Now, that's a really good question. 3:10:15.680 --> 3:10:19.600 They haven't necessarily invested a ton though up front firm 3:10:19.959 --> 3:10:23.400 firm disagree, I mean Smith, okay, Connor Williams was a 3:10:23.400 --> 3:10:26.080 second round pick. Connor was picked fifty. McGovern was pick 3:10:26.120 --> 3:10:30.120 with it. They had him graded at the top and 3:10:30.160 --> 3:10:31.800 I already said that I agree with you in that 3:10:31.920 --> 3:10:34.760 regard because that's the biggest glaring miss right now. But 3:10:34.840 --> 3:10:37.720 outside of that, what have they done? Io Collins was 3:10:37.760 --> 3:10:40.080 a low risk, high reward sort of pick. They've invested 3:10:40.120 --> 3:10:42.720 two top one hundred picks an interior lineman that didn't 3:10:42.800 --> 3:10:45.039 give them back what they were Probably they didn't they 3:10:45.080 --> 3:10:47.480 trade up for be honest, they did. They went up 3:10:47.520 --> 3:10:49.920 for I know, the fourth round, but it doesn't matter. 3:10:49.959 --> 3:10:52.160 They still invested capital to go up. And now they're going, well, 3:10:52.240 --> 3:10:54.120 is he's smart enough? Yeah? Or does he have the 3:10:54.160 --> 3:10:55.960 IQ to do this? Like, I mean, you're so. I 3:10:56.080 --> 3:10:57.600 was just wondering when we were all when everyone was 3:10:57.600 --> 3:11:00.200 talking about Cowboys offensive line, I was like, is is 3:11:00.240 --> 3:11:02.720 it as a big a lock? As I used to 3:11:02.840 --> 3:11:06.280 just think the funny the funny argument. Uh, people say 3:11:06.320 --> 3:11:07.760 it all the time. They're like, well, you shouldn't need 3:11:07.840 --> 3:11:09.720 five first round picks to have a great line, right, 3:11:10.160 --> 3:11:13.160 the Cowboys have not found a ton of great lineman 3:11:13.240 --> 3:11:15.680 that world first round picks. Yeah, that's a it's a 3:11:15.920 --> 3:11:19.120 very valid critique. You kind of need the Saints right 3:11:19.160 --> 3:11:21.880 here to take this quarterback, right, yes, yeah, I don't 3:11:21.879 --> 3:11:24.880 think they're going to though. I think this is our tackle. Okay, 3:11:24.920 --> 3:11:27.200 I think this is Penning. He's looking at Twitter. I 3:11:27.280 --> 3:11:29.440 did not no, no, no, no, no, no, did no. 3:11:29.480 --> 3:11:31.840 Actually I haven't seen anything about on Twitter. I'm saying 3:11:31.959 --> 3:11:34.640 it's like it fits like Armstead, he's athletic, Like they 3:11:34.720 --> 3:11:36.880 need a left they didn't need a tackle. I mentioned that. 3:11:37.360 --> 3:11:39.040 But if if, if you're in a if you're the 3:11:39.120 --> 3:11:42.360 Cowboys draft room and you're thinking about taking Penning, you're 3:11:42.440 --> 3:11:44.880 you're like praying right now that the Saints just go 3:11:44.920 --> 3:11:47.640 ahead and take this quarterback. So let's just it's probably 3:11:47.680 --> 3:11:49.520 your right, it's probably not gonna happen. Let's reset what 3:11:49.640 --> 3:11:53.560 has happened. Jordan Davis at thirteen goes to the Eagles 3:11:53.640 --> 3:11:55.680 and a trade up Hamilton, the safety goes to the 3:11:55.760 --> 3:11:59.640 Ravens at fourteen. Green the aggie from A and m 3:11:59.760 --> 3:12:04.920 up phrasing number fifteen. Yeah, I mean props to landcer Line. 3:12:04.959 --> 3:12:07.520 And we talked about this day before on the g 3:12:07.640 --> 3:12:10.280 Back Nation Bobby all Us, we all talked about that 3:12:10.480 --> 3:12:14.040 that landzer Line mocked him, and everybody's I must think, Hey, 3:12:14.160 --> 3:12:16.520 keep us something in mind here if you like Green, 3:12:16.800 --> 3:12:19.199 he got just mocked by And we were talking about 3:12:19.240 --> 3:12:22.080 scouts and these guys that have connections in the league. Man, 3:12:22.160 --> 3:12:25.480 he nailed that one. Good for him. So then at sixteen, 3:12:25.560 --> 3:12:30.120 Washington made a pick that you guys seemed to say, huh, yeah, Johnson, 3:12:30.680 --> 3:12:33.080 he's a good player. He's a good player, and it 3:12:33.160 --> 3:12:34.640 shouldn't be a surprise to see him go in the 3:12:34.680 --> 3:12:37.040 first round. But most people thought maybe more toward the 3:12:37.120 --> 3:12:40.080 back half. He's he's a very slight guy. Uh, he's 3:12:41.360 --> 3:12:43.920 he's a slot receiver, like can I think he is? Yes? 3:12:44.280 --> 3:12:46.040 Here we go with Goodell. Let's see if this is 3:12:46.080 --> 3:12:49.959 a quarterback or the tackle or service members. And although 3:12:50.080 --> 3:12:55.360 serving our great nation domestically and around the world with 3:12:55.520 --> 3:12:58.800 the nineteenth pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, 3:12:59.640 --> 3:13:07.320 didn't Orland sakes like Trevor Penning tackle quo, good job, Bobo. 3:13:08.360 --> 3:13:11.720 Now I don't feel good about any of this, Okay, 3:13:11.920 --> 3:13:17.240 So compare this feeling to last year there was panic also, yeah, 3:13:17.280 --> 3:13:20.160 and that the corners went you had to settle from 3:13:20.200 --> 3:13:22.440 Michael Parson. Yeah. No. Look, look, I mean like, this 3:13:22.640 --> 3:13:25.440 isn't that my ideal situation. I have come to the 3:13:25.480 --> 3:13:27.000 point and this is the line I've been preaching on 3:13:27.040 --> 3:13:28.760 one O five through the fan for a while. Now. 3:13:29.120 --> 3:13:31.520 I've gotten a point where I just like blindly trust 3:13:31.760 --> 3:13:33.720 what the scouting staff is going to do, the work 3:13:33.760 --> 3:13:36.040 that they're gonna do. I'm gonna trust that they're gonna 3:13:36.040 --> 3:13:38.040 find me a good player, no matter what I may 3:13:38.160 --> 3:13:40.240 or may not like think of the player. The track 3:13:40.280 --> 3:13:42.360 record speaks for itself, and so to me, it's like 3:13:42.560 --> 3:13:44.879 I'm trusting the scouting staff. So look, if this pick 3:13:45.040 --> 3:13:48.440 is Nakobe Deane, if it's George Carloftus, if it's you know, 3:13:49.000 --> 3:13:51.080 Tyler Smith, if it's any name we haven't even talked 3:13:51.080 --> 3:13:53.760 about yet, then I'm gonna trust that they're gonna get 3:13:53.800 --> 3:13:56.920 it right. But this is this is but that's a 3:13:57.000 --> 3:14:00.880 little bit different from running out of options. You know 3:14:00.879 --> 3:14:03.360 what I mean, Like, it's it's easier for me to 3:14:03.400 --> 3:14:06.240 trust you're going to get it right at ten than 3:14:06.400 --> 3:14:09.440 twenty four when they had fifteen first grade. We haven't 3:14:09.440 --> 3:14:11.400 seen them work the phones. We haven't seen them on 3:14:11.440 --> 3:14:13.040 the phone trying to go up, So they must feel 3:14:13.160 --> 3:14:15.520 comfortable enough if they lose those guys. Did you guys 3:14:15.560 --> 3:14:18.520 in any of your scenarios, have all these guys gone? No, 3:14:19.000 --> 3:14:21.480 not really. I tried running it through. I tried to 3:14:21.520 --> 3:14:23.840 create scenarios where they'd all be gone. Well, these are 3:14:23.879 --> 3:14:27.240 guys that I thought would be not on the board 3:14:27.280 --> 3:14:28.880 at all, to add to kind of the list of 3:14:28.959 --> 3:14:31.000 names that we thought would be there. George Karloftus I 3:14:31.040 --> 3:14:33.480 thought would be gone. I thought Nakobe Dean and Devin 3:14:33.600 --> 3:14:35.800 Lloyd had a good shot one of those two would 3:14:35.800 --> 3:14:40.080 be gone. They're both still sitting there. Davante Wyatt maybe 3:14:40.240 --> 3:14:43.080 in that conversation, but outside of that, No, I feel 3:14:43.120 --> 3:14:45.480 like the Cowboys were wiped out of their targets. But 3:14:45.879 --> 3:14:47.800 then they have these other guys that are sitting there 3:14:47.840 --> 3:14:50.480 too that could potentially I'm looking to play a fact. 3:14:50.840 --> 3:14:54.440 I wonder, like how many of the guys that we 3:14:54.640 --> 3:14:58.400 really penciled in as like guarantees to go or left, 3:14:58.520 --> 3:15:01.000 Like I would say Jermaine jo in his one yep. 3:15:01.320 --> 3:15:06.080 I would say, um, Devin Lloyd is one yep to 3:15:06.240 --> 3:15:10.640 Vante Wyatt, and then everything else is kind of a crapshoot. 3:15:10.640 --> 3:15:12.720 I just I wonder how much these last twelve or 3:15:12.800 --> 3:15:14.880 thirteen picks, Like how crazy is it gonna get? I 3:15:14.959 --> 3:15:17.360 just I didn't see. I didn't see it. Like when 3:15:17.360 --> 3:15:19.200 we talked about could you get a scenario where they 3:15:19.240 --> 3:15:22.600 were all gone? I always had like generally the worst 3:15:22.720 --> 3:15:24.600 case scenario I got to was the only one left 3:15:24.680 --> 3:15:26.880 was Green. Yeah, And that made me a little and 3:15:26.920 --> 3:15:28.280 that made me a little like ah, because I don't 3:15:28.280 --> 3:15:29.840 know how well they feel about his knee, So that 3:15:29.959 --> 3:15:32.080 was the one that I could. But I mean, with 3:15:32.200 --> 3:15:33.640 Green gone, it's like, wow, you don't even have that 3:15:33.640 --> 3:15:35.280 as an option. Now. Did they know this was going 3:15:35.360 --> 3:15:38.000 to happen? Though? That's my thing because the Tyler Smith 3:15:38.040 --> 3:15:40.640 has been telegraphed for a long time, So did they 3:15:40.760 --> 3:15:42.920 have an idea that they could be wiped out of 3:15:42.920 --> 3:15:44.760 the names that we've been talking about for so long? 3:15:45.040 --> 3:15:47.560 I mean, shout out to melt Keiper who had that 3:15:47.640 --> 3:15:50.240 as his pick. In like January. I think, I mean 3:15:50.800 --> 3:15:53.680 we did it. We did. Like we touched on him 3:15:53.840 --> 3:15:56.840 on the Draft show early on. Who is he? He 3:15:57.800 --> 3:16:00.760 guard tackle out of Tulsa, played played tackle at Tulsa 3:16:01.240 --> 3:16:05.880 translates to guard in the prosum And what the reason 3:16:05.920 --> 3:16:07.280 I bring it up? He's like, it must have been 3:16:07.360 --> 3:16:11.119 January or February. Kiper mocked him and we got inundated 3:16:11.160 --> 3:16:12.880 with questions about him because they were like, who is 3:16:12.920 --> 3:16:15.600 this dude that mel Kiper thinks we're gonna take um? 3:16:15.959 --> 3:16:17.800 I brought us. You have a second round grade on him? 3:16:18.240 --> 3:16:20.160 I mean, Brian, you read your scouting report because you 3:16:20.480 --> 3:16:23.320 take notes on all these guys. Yeah. I was trying 3:16:23.360 --> 3:16:25.680 to get there right. He's a local kid. Time a 3:16:25.720 --> 3:16:28.720 little more time for fort Worth. Uh? He born and 3:16:28.840 --> 3:16:31.400 raised in Fort Worth. He was North Crowley High alum. Yeah, 3:16:31.440 --> 3:16:32.760 I mean he's from around here. He was a Dallas 3:16:32.800 --> 3:16:34.200 Day participant. They had him in here when they did 3:16:34.200 --> 3:16:36.720 their Dallas Day. Ye, so maybe we would have been 3:16:36.760 --> 3:16:38.320 tipped off if he was not a Dallasday guy. Maybe 3:16:38.320 --> 3:16:39.560 would have been tipped off if they would have had 3:16:39.640 --> 3:16:41.960 him in for thirty does it? Yeah, he's he's Scotsman 3:16:42.000 --> 3:16:45.720 Press that way, he's six five, he's three twenty four. 3:16:46.720 --> 3:16:49.720 I think, to me, it's more he tries to bully 3:16:49.840 --> 3:16:52.760 the defender instead of working his feet in his hands together, 3:16:52.760 --> 3:16:55.000 because you tend to see him get called for holding 3:16:55.080 --> 3:16:57.920 penalis and stuff like that. He's more of a catcher 3:16:58.040 --> 3:17:00.480 than a strike or a punch. He kind of lets 3:17:00.480 --> 3:17:02.520 the defender get close and then he grabs and throws 3:17:02.600 --> 3:17:04.600 him to the ground. And the two games I studied 3:17:05.560 --> 3:17:08.640 was Ohio State. Okay, he had three holding calls against him, 3:17:08.680 --> 3:17:10.959 and you just got rid of a guard that has 3:17:11.040 --> 3:17:14.360 holding calls against him. But this guy is much much bigger. 3:17:14.760 --> 3:17:17.279 He's gonna come off the ball with good initial quickness. 3:17:17.360 --> 3:17:19.360 He tends to wait for the defender to kind of 3:17:19.360 --> 3:17:20.760 get to him, and then he'll, like could say, he'll 3:17:20.800 --> 3:17:23.560 try and he'll work that guy wide and push him 3:17:23.560 --> 3:17:26.440 past the quarterback. But I mean, this is a This 3:17:26.560 --> 3:17:28.160 is guys could get some move in the running game 3:17:28.160 --> 3:17:30.000 because he's a big man and he's got some power 3:17:30.080 --> 3:17:33.600 to him. So play off of your penalties. Sixteen combined 3:17:33.680 --> 3:17:36.680 penalties in twenty twenty one, twelve of those were holding calls. 3:17:37.680 --> 3:17:39.320 Good thing the Cowboys didn't have a problem with that 3:17:39.400 --> 3:17:42.160 last year. By the way, this has to be quarterback here, right, 3:17:42.400 --> 3:17:45.440 This is will the first quarterback. There's another team that 3:17:45.560 --> 3:17:47.320 sits there and just lets the board come to them 3:17:47.360 --> 3:17:49.800 and they just get players Willis. Willis was the guy 3:17:49.840 --> 3:17:53.160 who was most strongly linked to them during this process. 3:17:54.080 --> 3:17:56.760 Port Kenny Pickett, who didn't I wouldn't wouldn't have to move. 3:17:56.840 --> 3:17:59.600 He's got a walker already. Harris, who let's see who 3:17:59.720 --> 3:18:02.200 JAREMYA had them taking. How did you guys have as 3:18:02.240 --> 3:18:05.360 your top quarterback? Pick it for me? Pick it Corral. 3:18:07.320 --> 3:18:09.600 I mean it's funny because, like I don't think in 3:18:09.760 --> 3:18:12.640 terms of being able to play right now, I would 3:18:12.680 --> 3:18:15.200 not pick Willis, But in terms of upside, I absolutely 3:18:15.240 --> 3:18:17.040 would like He's probably the one I would be most 3:18:17.080 --> 3:18:20.879 intrigued to draft but not play. In twenty twenty two, 3:18:21.800 --> 3:18:25.039 Rager mocked Willis, Danberg learned Daniels Jeremiah mocked to pick 3:18:25.080 --> 3:18:28.720 it here. This has to be quarterback with the Pittsburgh 3:18:28.720 --> 3:18:31.760 Steelers in the clock at twenty then New England at 3:18:31.840 --> 3:18:34.080 twenty one. I could be the linebacker right there. I 3:18:34.200 --> 3:18:37.000 want Tomlin. I want Tomlin to do like real Pittsburgh 3:18:37.040 --> 3:18:39.520 stuff and just take Lloyd or Dean like, screw you, guys, 3:18:39.560 --> 3:18:41.640 We'll make it work. We're gonna win every game thirteen 3:18:41.680 --> 3:18:44.400 to ten. Got Miles Jack here, got T J. Watt, 3:18:44.720 --> 3:18:48.000 got Cameron Hayward, Packers and the make of Fitzpatrick. Yeah, 3:18:48.000 --> 3:18:49.920 we're just gonna win every game seventeen thirteen. Then the 3:18:49.959 --> 3:18:55.520 Packers at twenty two, Baltimore at twenty three, Cowboys at 3:18:55.560 --> 3:18:58.120 twenty four. As the pick is getting ready to come 3:18:58.200 --> 3:18:59.840 up here to the podium, let's see if this is 3:18:59.879 --> 3:19:03.320 the first quarterback taken of the twenty twenty two draft 3:19:03.680 --> 3:19:06.800 with Roger Goodell? Is that is that Franco joined by 3:19:06.879 --> 3:19:09.040 Lowell Frank, I think he does it. I think he 3:19:09.120 --> 3:19:11.280 does it every year for these guys. Okay, here we go. 3:19:14.720 --> 3:19:19.800 Franco season marks of one of the most memorable moments 3:19:20.000 --> 3:19:24.440 in NFL history incomplete. During the final seconds of the 3:19:24.600 --> 3:19:30.039 nineteen seventy two AFC Divisional Game, Franco Harris made an 3:19:30.120 --> 3:19:36.920 improbable catch known as the Immaculate Reception. He here with 3:19:37.080 --> 3:19:41.560 us tonight to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of that moment 3:19:42.160 --> 3:19:46.600 and to announce the pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Please 3:19:46.680 --> 3:19:50.640 welcome Pro Football Hall of Famer Franko. Hairs. I can't 3:19:50.680 --> 3:19:56.720 wait to hear what this reaction wasn't seeing the name here? Okay, 3:19:56.920 --> 3:20:02.360 Oh my gosh, hello, it's big it this is graz 3:20:03.959 --> 3:20:07.400 I love this. I love home. Okay, with the twentieth 3:20:07.560 --> 3:20:14.519 pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Chillers. 3:20:16.080 --> 3:20:24.560 So look, Kenny pick willis no pressure, kid, It's just 3:20:24.800 --> 3:20:27.840 your hometown expecting you to be the quarterback of the future. 3:20:28.000 --> 3:20:31.000 Kenny pick It, the first quarterback at number twenty to 3:20:31.120 --> 3:20:34.600 the Pittsburgh Steelers. We are getting closer. The Patriots are 3:20:34.640 --> 3:20:36.920 on the clock and the Cowboys are coming up at 3:20:36.959 --> 3:20:39.560 twenty four. This is the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. 3:20:39.640 --> 3:20:40.920 On one oh five to be the fan in the 3:20:41.040 --> 3:20:53.560 Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Kenny pick It, Yes, he can 3:20:54.879 --> 3:20:59.000 boy those hands cold Weather City. Oh good point. That's 3:20:59.040 --> 3:21:02.760 ballas the class. But they figured out, they figured out 3:21:02.840 --> 3:21:05.000 he could play. But like you said, this guy is 3:21:05.600 --> 3:21:07.360 like I say when you watch him play, He's got 3:21:07.440 --> 3:21:09.960 the two gloves like Teddy Bridgewater plays with, you know, 3:21:10.120 --> 3:21:13.320 and the mobility and the awareness in the pocket, the 3:21:13.480 --> 3:21:16.600 athletic ability he's got. Feel he could see the rush. 3:21:17.320 --> 3:21:19.640 He can move where he gives himself the best chance 3:21:19.720 --> 3:21:22.520 to deliver the ball. He never appears to be throwing 3:21:22.560 --> 3:21:25.120 the ball with his feet set, which is kind of funny. 3:21:25.160 --> 3:21:27.879 He kind of dances around a little bit in the pocket, 3:21:28.000 --> 3:21:30.760 but his arm strength allows him to get away with it. 3:21:30.800 --> 3:21:32.880 I think this guy can make all the throws easily, 3:21:32.959 --> 3:21:35.320 and I also see a guy that shows no fear 3:21:35.400 --> 3:21:37.240 when it comes to delivering the ball. He's my only 3:21:37.280 --> 3:21:40.560 first round quarterback that I had, so I like him 3:21:40.560 --> 3:21:42.760 a lot more than I guess others in this room. 3:21:42.800 --> 3:21:44.840 I mean, but there's times when you see him throw 3:21:44.840 --> 3:21:46.880 across his body or throwing the middle of the field, 3:21:46.920 --> 3:21:49.600 but the vision and he sees how the defense is 3:21:49.600 --> 3:21:51.960 playing him to find the open man. His eyes always 3:21:52.000 --> 3:21:55.080 appear up and down the field. So I really like 3:21:55.240 --> 3:21:56.880 this guy how he can avoid and spin out of 3:21:56.920 --> 3:21:59.000 trouble when he needs to do that. This is a 3:21:59.040 --> 3:22:02.480 guy who really Lee rose, not during the draft process, 3:22:02.520 --> 3:22:05.480 but really rose from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. 3:22:05.520 --> 3:22:07.240 This is a guy that like talking to people around 3:22:07.240 --> 3:22:09.040 the NFL like he was not on the radar as 3:22:09.040 --> 3:22:11.800 a first round pick. Not quite the same degree as Burrow, 3:22:11.879 --> 3:22:13.960 but like a similar situation. Yeah, Like you talk to 3:22:14.000 --> 3:22:16.880 anybody before this past season, they were like different guy 3:22:17.560 --> 3:22:19.360 came in played this season, was a different guy than 3:22:19.400 --> 3:22:21.840 people had seen on tape. And so I mean this 3:22:21.920 --> 3:22:25.000 is somebody who really genuinely like made the most of 3:22:25.400 --> 3:22:28.240 his senior season here and really rose up. Now. I 3:22:28.320 --> 3:22:30.160 want to put it on the record as well, along 3:22:30.240 --> 3:22:32.880 with broad Us in talking about if there was a 3:22:32.959 --> 3:22:35.680 first round quarterback, this would have been the guy for me. 3:22:36.080 --> 3:22:39.920 And you look at the situation that he's going into there, 3:22:40.000 --> 3:22:43.360 it's a completely new wide receiver room that he's gonna 3:22:43.360 --> 3:22:46.119 have to deal with. Of course, no Juju Smith Schuster anymore. 3:22:46.240 --> 3:22:49.120 They do have Chase Claypool. He has some targets to 3:22:49.200 --> 3:22:52.119 throw the football too. But I still think this system 3:22:52.640 --> 3:22:54.480 in that town, of course, that he's very much so 3:22:54.600 --> 3:22:57.720 accustomed to, I think he's gonna have some success even 3:22:57.760 --> 3:22:59.600 in the early parts of his career. Yeah, there's gonna 3:22:59.600 --> 3:23:02.240 be at a learning curve. But it's a different type 3:23:02.280 --> 3:23:04.920 of learning curve because he's going to see playing time 3:23:04.920 --> 3:23:07.600 pretty much immediately. He won't have to sit behind well 3:23:07.640 --> 3:23:09.920 he was starter and move forward. They got the bridge 3:23:09.959 --> 3:23:13.360 in Trubisky. We don't forget about Trusty. So Trubisky will 3:23:13.360 --> 3:23:16.280 play there first and then pick Itt can sit there. 3:23:16.520 --> 3:23:18.600 And Chill brought us who did your name? Is? The 3:23:18.640 --> 3:23:21.400 aggressive teams? I said, the Saints? Who else did you name? 3:23:22.720 --> 3:23:24.440 I think Kansas City coming from the bottom of the 3:23:24.480 --> 3:23:27.840 board too, and the Kansas City Chiefs all right, yeah, 3:23:28.000 --> 3:23:30.040 New England has traded back, So who are they coming 3:23:30.120 --> 3:23:32.640 up for? Because I mean they needed a receiver, but 3:23:32.720 --> 3:23:36.520 what receivers are left? They could be getting George Karloft 3:23:36.560 --> 3:23:39.360 this year too. So Albert Brier had a note in 3:23:39.440 --> 3:23:41.640 his thing today that He's and Arizona traded out of 3:23:41.640 --> 3:23:43.400 the first round. He said Arizona was trying to trade back, 3:23:43.400 --> 3:23:45.320 and if they traded back, he said he thought there 3:23:45.360 --> 3:23:47.720 was a chance that karloftas fell completely out of the 3:23:47.760 --> 3:23:50.120 first round because Arizona was the only place that he 3:23:50.200 --> 3:23:52.040 might go. I saw that too, and said he's heard 3:23:52.080 --> 3:23:54.039 that like some teams around the league have karloftis as 3:23:54.080 --> 3:23:57.440 a fourth rounder, Oh wow, which I think is nuts 3:23:57.520 --> 3:24:00.440 to me. There's people, there's people that will argue that 3:24:00.640 --> 3:24:03.840 he is maybe he is what he is, which is well, 3:24:04.000 --> 3:24:06.440 just like you know, like it was like a good 3:24:06.520 --> 3:24:09.640 steady player that can't there's no what is it, Dave. 3:24:11.680 --> 3:24:13.600 He ain't twitchy, he doesn't have a high ceiling like, 3:24:13.879 --> 3:24:18.480 he ain't gonna blossom into a double digit solid Yeah, yeah, solid, 3:24:18.600 --> 3:24:21.560 the very dependable player. He's been playing football since he 3:24:21.680 --> 3:24:23.880 was like fifteen, that's when he started playing football. I 3:24:23.879 --> 3:24:25.360 just think it's od that people go always hit the ceiling. 3:24:25.400 --> 3:24:27.080 You don't want to started playing football five years ago. 3:24:27.320 --> 3:24:31.720 He doesn't have the athletic traits. Could be right? Could 3:24:31.720 --> 3:24:33.880 this be for George Pickens. They always kind of like 3:24:34.040 --> 3:24:38.120 they liked those those Georgia players from receiver. Right here 3:24:38.160 --> 3:24:40.920 we go, Kansas City on the clock, coming back to 3:24:41.000 --> 3:24:54.880 the radio side. We got more movement. Vegas set the 3:24:55.000 --> 3:24:57.640 over under drafts in the first round at three and 3:24:57.720 --> 3:25:01.680 a half. The Kansas City Chiefs have Jess moved up. Now. 3:25:01.720 --> 3:25:05.440 A lot of the talk was gonna be replacing Tyree Hill. Yeah, 3:25:05.480 --> 3:25:09.200 making sure Pat Mahomes has weapons. Cowboys are at twenty four. 3:25:09.640 --> 3:25:11.879 Kansas City. Brian brought us on the clock right now 3:25:11.920 --> 3:25:14.200 at twenty one. Yeah, this New England moves back. Yeah, 3:25:14.280 --> 3:25:16.800 and again this is everybody was kind of talking about 3:25:16.879 --> 3:25:20.480 Green Bay needing receivers. There's another team. Everybody's talking green Bay, 3:25:20.560 --> 3:25:23.039 Green Bay. You know, if you look at and again 3:25:23.160 --> 3:25:25.760 landon Zerline, I'm talking to him again or about him. 3:25:26.200 --> 3:25:29.760 He had Kansas City trading ahead of Dallas for Chris 3:25:29.840 --> 3:25:31.680 a Lobby coming down the board. This was a couple 3:25:31.720 --> 3:25:34.600 of weeks ago on his mock draft. So now everybody, 3:25:34.800 --> 3:25:37.959 it looks like the next receiver could be at Green 3:25:38.040 --> 3:25:40.160 Bay if in fact, you know, because they were talking 3:25:40.160 --> 3:25:42.160 about a guy. They were talking about Pickens with me 3:25:42.640 --> 3:25:46.400 at twenty eight. Pickens is who. Yeah, he's from from Georgia, 3:25:46.480 --> 3:25:49.800 from Georgia. Receiver from Georgia. So we will see, I mean, 3:25:49.920 --> 3:25:53.240 and now maybe Green Bay's focusing now on Jermaine Johnson, 3:25:53.400 --> 3:25:56.600 the edge rusher from Florida State was another guy that 3:25:56.680 --> 3:25:58.360 I'd kind of heard about. Here we go, let's see 3:25:58.360 --> 3:26:02.400 who Casey moved up for. Patriots have traded the twenty 3:26:02.440 --> 3:26:08.720 first pick took the Candy City Chief Red. The twenty 3:26:08.800 --> 3:26:13.200 first pick is a twenty twenty two NFL drag. The 3:26:13.360 --> 3:26:18.640 Kansas City Chiefs like Trent McDuffie, a cornerback, good player, 3:26:20.040 --> 3:26:24.080 good pick. Dave Hellman, I love the pick and I'm 3:26:24.200 --> 3:26:27.120 as a as a fellow short king I have. I 3:26:27.400 --> 3:26:29.600 have a lot of sympathy for guys that get overlooked. 3:26:29.800 --> 3:26:32.960 Only he's a damn good player and he happens to 3:26:33.040 --> 3:26:36.000 be five ten with shorter arms. That's that's really all 3:26:36.000 --> 3:26:38.560 there is to it, in my opinion. NFL teams uh 3:26:38.840 --> 3:26:40.680 that I talked to said like, if you need a 3:26:40.760 --> 3:26:45.040 plug and play like cornerback starter, get McDuffie. Like McDuffie 3:26:45.120 --> 3:26:47.080 is the the guy that will come in and immediately 3:26:47.640 --> 3:26:50.280 be a difference maker for you. Everything I've heard about him, 3:26:50.320 --> 3:26:53.400 he is a football fiend, like like he's grown up 3:26:53.400 --> 3:26:55.959 in a football family and just that's what he eats, 3:26:55.959 --> 3:26:59.480 sleeps and breeds and so he's Uh, the biggest thing 3:26:59.560 --> 3:27:01.440 is just his arms are like twenty eight inches. Let's 3:27:01.680 --> 3:27:03.720 let's set this up. You've got something real quick though. 3:27:03.760 --> 3:27:05.879 I Mean, there's people that think that maybe Kyler Gordon, 3:27:06.120 --> 3:27:08.560 the other corner at Washington, was a better player. There 3:27:08.600 --> 3:27:10.920 are teams that have Gordon above McGuffey. Yeah, all right, 3:27:10.959 --> 3:27:12.840 let's set this up. Now, we're a few picks away. 3:27:13.240 --> 3:27:15.800 Cowboys are at twenty four. Green Bays on the clock 3:27:15.920 --> 3:27:18.880 right now at twenty two than the Baltimore Ravens at 3:27:19.000 --> 3:27:22.360 twenty three, who was jumping out on y'all's board. Now 3:27:22.800 --> 3:27:26.440 for the Cowboys, I wish that I'd spent more time 3:27:26.600 --> 3:27:29.360 thinking about Jermaine Johnson, because I just wrote that off 3:27:29.400 --> 3:27:31.960 as a possibility a long time ago. And I don't 3:27:32.240 --> 3:27:36.199 like the defensive end out of Florida State transferred from Georgia, 3:27:36.480 --> 3:27:40.640 so again another piece of that disgusting Georgia defense had 3:27:40.680 --> 3:27:43.280 a really at a solid season for a bad FSU team, 3:27:43.560 --> 3:27:46.280 kicked everybody's but at the Senior Bowl. He literally he 3:27:46.600 --> 3:27:49.439 So there's three practices at the Senior Bowl, he dominated 3:27:49.480 --> 3:27:51.080 for two days and was like, peace, I'm out. I 3:27:51.080 --> 3:27:53.520 don't need to do this anymore. He's like I put 3:27:53.600 --> 3:27:55.760 in my tape, I'm not staying for a third days. 3:27:56.160 --> 3:28:01.040 He also he banged up, isn't either, No, no, But 3:28:01.240 --> 3:28:04.280 like I know specifically, the Cowboys really impressed with him 3:28:04.320 --> 3:28:06.960 in Mobile. Yeah, I have no idea if they like 3:28:07.120 --> 3:28:08.840 him enough to take him over some of the names. 3:28:09.040 --> 3:28:10.520 I don't either. Clearly the rest of the league doesn't 3:28:10.520 --> 3:28:12.840 like him as much as we thought. Yeah, who else, Bobby? 3:28:13.440 --> 3:28:15.200 I mean, I think we're looking I think this is 3:28:15.240 --> 3:28:18.240 setting up for potentially Tyler Smith, the tackle from also that. 3:28:18.480 --> 3:28:20.720 But I mean, if you're looking at other names, Nakobe Dean, 3:28:21.160 --> 3:28:22.680 I don't know how much do they like, Dax Hill, 3:28:22.760 --> 3:28:26.039 the safety from Michigan. I still talk about Devin Lloyd 3:28:26.120 --> 3:28:28.200 though from Utah myself. If you tell me I can 3:28:28.280 --> 3:28:30.879 maybe get the next Michael Parsons at linebacker to pair 3:28:30.959 --> 3:28:34.080 with Michael Parsons. Who about that? So tell me a 3:28:34.120 --> 3:28:36.520 little bit more about that and his game? Yeah? No, 3:28:36.640 --> 3:28:38.800 I mean this guy's six threes, two hundred and thirty, 3:28:38.959 --> 3:28:41.080 like seven pounds and stuff like that. I mean he's 3:28:41.120 --> 3:28:44.360 a great finisher, he gets, he's an outstanding tackler. He 3:28:44.480 --> 3:28:46.960 could blitz. He tackles well in the open space. He 3:28:47.080 --> 3:28:50.320 probably covers better than Michael Parsons. You could watch him play. 3:28:50.360 --> 3:28:52.959 He gets in throwing lanes, he gets interceptions, he knocks 3:28:53.000 --> 3:28:57.560 balls down pass rush. Yeah yeah, it's seven sacks. So yeah. 3:28:57.640 --> 3:28:59.720 I mean the people talking about this, I don't know 3:28:59.760 --> 3:29:02.240 if I also do it, but me personally, if you're 3:29:02.280 --> 3:29:05.279 starting to talk about some of these other guys, Tyler Lindenbaum, 3:29:05.320 --> 3:29:07.000 I know I'm not gonna get now. I put him 3:29:07.040 --> 3:29:09.359 on the board where I would take him Dallas Cowboys 3:29:09.400 --> 3:29:11.160 probably don't agree with me on that at all. I 3:29:11.240 --> 3:29:12.920 don't think it's out of the question because you look 3:29:12.959 --> 3:29:15.320 at some of the guys they've had conversations with. They 3:29:15.400 --> 3:29:18.080 had Devin Lloyd in as a thirty visit. It's known 3:29:18.120 --> 3:29:20.240 that Kay Walker was here on a thirty visit. They 3:29:20.320 --> 3:29:23.800 met with Christian Harris at the combine. They've had opportunities 3:29:23.879 --> 3:29:27.960 with these top four, top five linebackers to have these conversations. 3:29:28.240 --> 3:29:30.240 I'm right there with you. I think Devin Lloyd is 3:29:30.240 --> 3:29:33.400 certainly a potential here. You've got Dean and Lloyd as 3:29:33.440 --> 3:29:36.920 the two linebackers that are possibilities, Linderbaum and Smith as 3:29:37.000 --> 3:29:39.640 offensive line, and then you've got Karloftis and Johnson. As 3:29:39.680 --> 3:29:41.320 we enter this twenty second time, I don't know what 3:29:41.480 --> 3:29:44.000 just happened, but there they cut to war room cam 3:29:44.080 --> 3:29:46.879 and somebody said something and Steven went big fist pump. 3:29:47.240 --> 3:29:50.360 So Stephen was happy about something. Well, keeping every team 3:29:50.400 --> 3:29:53.520 in the league is happy about every decision they make. Well, 3:29:53.600 --> 3:29:56.360 but I don't, But I mean I think they must. 3:29:56.520 --> 3:29:58.040 I don't know if they know green base pick here 3:29:58.080 --> 3:30:00.040 or Baltimore's, but I think they're happy about who of 3:30:00.080 --> 3:30:04.320 her because the picks in the NFL world are in 3:30:04.600 --> 3:30:07.920 they like it hasn't been announced. I'm not Dallas's pick, 3:30:08.040 --> 3:30:10.200 but like that, I mean they could be. We could 3:30:10.240 --> 3:30:12.000 be as many as like a pick. Here's a war 3:30:12.080 --> 3:30:14.560 room camera behind. I want to see. I want to 3:30:14.600 --> 3:30:16.400 see who Green Bay picks here and if we can 3:30:17.280 --> 3:30:20.120 figure anything from that. With the fist pump, were you 3:30:20.200 --> 3:30:23.360 guys thinking about, well, here comes Roger Goodell at the 3:30:23.480 --> 3:30:26.440 podium with the Packers selection. As we get closer with 3:30:26.480 --> 3:30:31.680 the Cowboys at twenty four In the twenty two NFL Draft, 3:30:32.760 --> 3:30:41.600 the Green Bay Packers great Walker Georgia. So no offensive 3:30:41.640 --> 3:30:45.400 player again for mister Rogers, first linebacker off the board. 3:30:45.480 --> 3:30:48.040 That's it's funny, you we We've talked about that with 3:30:48.080 --> 3:30:52.080 a few guys, but quay Walker was like a fringe 3:30:52.200 --> 3:30:54.360 name for most of this cycle, and within the last 3:30:54.400 --> 3:30:57.160 two weeks exploded. He just had this surge where everybody 3:30:57.280 --> 3:30:59.560 was like, oh, yeah, he'll probably be the first linebacker taken. 3:31:00.600 --> 3:31:02.800 So him a lot across the way too. So but 3:31:02.879 --> 3:31:05.160 if we see a fist pump, there's that any indication 3:31:05.240 --> 3:31:07.560 of oh, they took a linebacker, but it wasn't ours 3:31:09.200 --> 3:31:11.000 or I think it could be just took a player 3:31:11.840 --> 3:31:15.960 that you know, they weren't looking at linebacker. Uh, go ahead, Dave, 3:31:16.640 --> 3:31:18.880 I just what's up. We just had a trade. Baltimore 3:31:19.080 --> 3:31:22.840 went back, Buffalo leap frog Dallas. What does Buffalo think 3:31:22.920 --> 3:31:26.440 Dallas needs? So it's a good question. So Buffalo is 3:31:26.480 --> 3:31:29.080 on the clock at twenty three. Yeah, yeah, they just 3:31:29.160 --> 3:31:32.960 flipped Baltimore went back. That's that's the pick. That's the 3:31:33.000 --> 3:31:36.360 pick they took from Arizona. I love Hollywood Brown. Can 3:31:36.440 --> 3:31:39.000 I just gush about the Ravens for one more time, 3:31:39.400 --> 3:31:41.880 Like we gave them crap because they missed Jordan Davis. 3:31:42.240 --> 3:31:45.000 And what do they wind up doing? Drafting Kyle Hamilton 3:31:45.080 --> 3:31:48.920 at fourteen? They traded Hollywood for a first? Did they 3:31:49.160 --> 3:31:50.520 Did they get a first? No, they got like pick 3:31:50.600 --> 3:31:52.760 one hundred for him. I thought it was pick one 3:31:52.840 --> 3:31:56.160 hundred in Hollywood for twenty three. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 3:31:56.160 --> 3:31:57.960 oh yeah, I'm you're right. I'm sorry. Yeah, they got 3:31:58.000 --> 3:32:01.119 a first for Hollywood and then turned this into whatever it's. 3:32:01.160 --> 3:32:03.160 It's so they've probably added a ton of capital on 3:32:03.240 --> 3:32:06.440 top of already having Kyle Hamilton. Bills go twenty five 3:32:06.520 --> 3:32:09.160 and one thirty for twenty three. But I'm gonna use 3:32:09.240 --> 3:32:11.240 the war room cam to cheat here a little bit. 3:32:11.280 --> 3:32:13.720 I didn't see the fist pumping question from Bobby Belt, 3:32:14.080 --> 3:32:16.680 but that that tells me I don't have to hold 3:32:16.720 --> 3:32:19.840 my breath here that they that they think Buffalo is 3:32:19.879 --> 3:32:22.320 going to steal someone from them, because yeah, because that 3:32:22.600 --> 3:32:24.320 could have been news that they got. The Buffalo went 3:32:24.400 --> 3:32:25.680 up and they were like, oh, we feel better knowing 3:32:25.720 --> 3:32:28.120 Baltimore's not picking in front of us. So what are 3:32:28.160 --> 3:32:30.360 we thinking now? Brian brought us. We got Steven on 3:32:30.400 --> 3:32:33.879 the phone. Maybe he's talking. Maybe, I don't know. That's 3:32:33.920 --> 3:32:36.720 the thing I'm kind of was anyone thinking about trading 3:32:36.800 --> 3:32:41.640 back in the last five minutes, I would think about it, Yeah, 3:32:42.000 --> 3:32:44.080 I mean I would if somebody wanted to, if somebody 3:32:44.120 --> 3:32:46.640 called me, I would that there teams are moving, so 3:32:46.840 --> 3:32:49.080 he's are dealing. This is they're talking to a team 3:32:49.080 --> 3:32:51.080 because Steven's got his little pen out and it looks 3:32:51.080 --> 3:32:53.560 like he's telling Jerry would probably be on the phone 3:32:53.560 --> 3:32:56.400 with the player. I mean, you're sitting here right Jerry's 3:32:56.640 --> 3:32:59.359 nobody's celebrating. So this isn't a pick. This is definitely 3:32:59.440 --> 3:33:02.080 a conversation. We think they like Tyler Smith, but we 3:33:02.120 --> 3:33:04.840 don't think that he's just like our guy. He's not. 3:33:05.640 --> 3:33:07.800 They think about him in the second round. I mean, 3:33:07.879 --> 3:33:10.320 that's the thing that we keep talking about. I think 3:33:10.320 --> 3:33:11.440 a lot of the guys that went ahead of them 3:33:11.480 --> 3:33:12.960 they thought, well, no, that that's what we're talking I mean, 3:33:13.120 --> 3:33:14.920 I think that's what we're talking about right now, is 3:33:15.000 --> 3:33:17.120 maybe that they feel like that, you know, hey, if 3:33:17.160 --> 3:33:18.480 we grabbed this guy, I mean, if we can move 3:33:18.520 --> 3:33:20.760 down a little bit further and pick something else up, 3:33:21.080 --> 3:33:23.200 it might soften the blow a little bit. All right, 3:33:23.240 --> 3:33:26.360 Let's let's think about some scenarios and let's get out 3:33:26.400 --> 3:33:27.880 of here real quick to come back and make sure 3:33:27.920 --> 3:33:29.600 we don't miss anything. The Bills are on the clock. 3:33:29.800 --> 3:33:33.200 Then the Cowboys are up next. Don't go anywhere. It's 3:33:33.240 --> 3:33:35.600 the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five 3:33:35.640 --> 3:33:43.000 to the fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. All right, y'all, 3:33:43.320 --> 3:33:45.640 let's brainstorm. What are you looking at, Dave? What are 3:33:45.640 --> 3:33:47.360 you thinking? I mean, if I don't think they like 3:33:47.480 --> 3:33:48.960 any of the guys that I've gone on my board, 3:33:49.000 --> 3:33:51.520 who's trying to come up? If they were, well, somebody 3:33:51.560 --> 3:33:54.360 that wants a linebacker. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe, like 3:33:54.440 --> 3:33:58.400 if maybe, if somebody loves Devin Lloyd or Rush, there's 3:33:58.440 --> 3:34:02.160 two of them right there. Okay, so right now Buffalo 3:34:02.760 --> 3:34:05.520 is on the clock to answer your question, Sean, Like, 3:34:05.800 --> 3:34:07.440 I don't even remember what I asked. Well, I mean, 3:34:07.600 --> 3:34:10.240 if they could jump back somewhere between like two and 3:34:10.959 --> 3:34:13.960 six spots. It doesn't even we did this in our 3:34:14.040 --> 3:34:16.880 mock on Tuesday, Like, you're not gonna get crazy good compensation. 3:34:17.000 --> 3:34:22.040 What did we add in that trade? We added We 3:34:22.040 --> 3:34:25.080 added a fourth and a sixth. But I think, like 3:34:25.200 --> 3:34:27.240 this is just to take your pick among guys that 3:34:27.320 --> 3:34:29.640 you probably don't love. At least that's how I feel 3:34:29.640 --> 3:34:32.959 about it. I think they if they took Tyler Smith, 3:34:33.000 --> 3:34:34.880 if they took to Kobe Dean, I think they like 3:34:35.120 --> 3:34:37.880 those players. Is that their dream scenario when they head 3:34:37.920 --> 3:34:39.840 into the state. No, it wasn't. But I mean, I 3:34:40.080 --> 3:34:42.440 think they'd be happy with coming out of here with 3:34:42.520 --> 3:34:45.520 those players and not having to give up capital. No, 3:34:46.080 --> 3:34:49.200 but I'm saying, but you can gain capital and chios. Lay, 3:34:49.320 --> 3:34:51.280 Can I ask a question, then, do you feel like 3:34:51.320 --> 3:34:55.279 they're wiped out? Yeah? From the guys, they really coveted. 3:34:55.400 --> 3:34:58.640 I think, yeah, this is why you would take it 3:34:58.760 --> 3:35:00.840 to them, they would take I mean yeah, I mean 3:35:00.920 --> 3:35:03.640 they know they visited Lloyd. Yeah that's what I'm seeing. 3:35:03.680 --> 3:35:06.400 I mean, I love the player myself, and I love 3:35:06.640 --> 3:35:09.560 Linderbomba guys like that. But they don't. They don't. They're 3:35:09.600 --> 3:35:11.520 not seeing this like I am. I wonder, well, I 3:35:11.600 --> 3:35:13.360 wonder if this is and I don't. I don't know 3:35:13.400 --> 3:35:15.440 how they feel about Lloyd one hundred percent, but I 3:35:15.520 --> 3:35:19.200 wonder if this is a situation where they like Lloyd. 3:35:20.080 --> 3:35:22.120 Maybe Lloyd's even the best grade on their board. But 3:35:22.400 --> 3:35:25.280 it's the classic like need verse best player, Like do 3:35:25.440 --> 3:35:28.240 you need to draft another linebacker after you just got 3:35:28.360 --> 3:35:31.480 Micah or tend to something that needs it a little 3:35:31.480 --> 3:35:36.480 bit more Based upon y'all's boards and excitement level, I'm 3:35:36.760 --> 3:35:40.120 I'm rooting for a move back. I'm rooting would I 3:35:40.160 --> 3:35:42.880 would get a lot more excited about the pick if 3:35:43.120 --> 3:35:45.520 if they jumped back, If they move back to thirty 3:35:45.560 --> 3:35:47.360 and then they picked Tyler Smith, I feel much better. 3:35:47.400 --> 3:35:49.760 There's nobody there's nobody on the YO. There's nobody on 3:35:49.760 --> 3:35:51.680 the board right now where I'm just like, he's got 3:35:51.800 --> 3:35:53.680 to get there. He's got to get there. Cowboys are 3:35:53.720 --> 3:35:57.120 on the clock because the pick is in for Buffalo, okay. 3:35:57.920 --> 3:36:01.440 And we were judging by Stephen on the phone that 3:36:01.520 --> 3:36:03.760 he was probably talking to a team and it was 3:36:03.879 --> 3:36:05.360 Jerry on the phone. If we go to the war 3:36:05.440 --> 3:36:08.080 room cam and Jerry's on there along with McCarthy, we 3:36:08.240 --> 3:36:11.560 usually try to find a position coach that leads us 3:36:11.920 --> 3:36:14.800 there we go, Stephen's still on the phone. They're talking 3:36:14.840 --> 3:36:17.240 to a team. It is it's trade offers coming in. 3:36:17.400 --> 3:36:19.240 We don't know who the teams are right now, but 3:36:19.320 --> 3:36:22.520 they are definitely talking to somebody. I mean, I wish 3:36:22.560 --> 3:36:25.880 I had more information. No position coach in the room. 3:36:26.160 --> 3:36:28.959 Jerry's listening, so this is this has to be Stephen 3:36:29.440 --> 3:36:33.800 laughing at something. They're they're talking about a team. So 3:36:34.080 --> 3:36:36.400 that's what we're standing right now. Any idea who does 3:36:36.480 --> 3:36:38.920 will have that dialing hand ready though if they can't move, 3:36:38.959 --> 3:36:41.280 because usually Chris Hall at the bottom right of the 3:36:41.480 --> 3:36:43.440 of the thing, Chris Hall will get the player on 3:36:43.560 --> 3:36:46.320 the phone and he hasn't moved. You see. If there's 3:36:46.320 --> 3:36:48.440 a gentleman with the glong hair in the glasses beard 3:36:49.000 --> 3:36:52.720 and so yeah, they're joking a little bit there joking 3:36:52.840 --> 3:36:57.440 with someone, So that doesn't seem like a serious trade negotiation. Well, 3:36:57.840 --> 3:37:00.960 all these guys, especially in the boys case, where your 3:37:01.000 --> 3:37:03.040 GM stays the same, like they've been dealing with these 3:37:03.120 --> 3:37:05.720 people for years. I mean they're buddies by now. Any idea. 3:37:05.879 --> 3:37:09.439 McCarthy doesn't look really comfortable right now though to me languages, 3:37:09.480 --> 3:37:12.080 Well he's pointing. It's point at will. Hey, any idea 3:37:12.080 --> 3:37:14.800 who Buffalo is gonna take? I don't know who they 3:37:14.920 --> 3:37:16.440 thought they needed to come up ahead of down It 3:37:16.560 --> 3:37:18.280 is right here. I guess would be a linebacker. Let's 3:37:18.280 --> 3:37:22.440 go to the podium. Ravens have traded the twenty third 3:37:22.520 --> 3:37:27.720 pick to the Buffalo Bill. With the twenty third pick 3:37:27.840 --> 3:37:32.119 in the twenty twenty two NFL Drags, the Buffalo Bill 3:37:32.240 --> 3:37:39.040 select h quarter from Florida. That's a Florida good player. 3:37:39.240 --> 3:37:42.039 He really good player. I loved Kayer Elam tell us 3:37:42.040 --> 3:37:44.119 about him, kay me. I mean, like, that's a dude 3:37:44.160 --> 3:37:46.400 who like he gets to the ball. He will always 3:37:46.400 --> 3:37:48.440 get his hand on the ball. He is a really 3:37:48.520 --> 3:37:50.600 really good athlete. I mean he's somebody that like, I 3:37:50.840 --> 3:37:53.280 love him, I think, And he's a I think broadest. 3:37:53.320 --> 3:37:56.000 Didn't you sign his dad. Yeah, I was here with 3:37:56.080 --> 3:38:01.640 his dad. Yeah. Yeah, because his dad's Abram Elam. Yeah, 3:38:01.720 --> 3:38:03.960 the old Cowboys safety Yeah he. I'll tell you what 3:38:04.120 --> 3:38:06.560 this kid's he is a He is a press corner 3:38:06.640 --> 3:38:08.800 with every senate sense of the word. He'll get up 3:38:08.800 --> 3:38:10.280 on you. He's not going to give you much space. 3:38:10.640 --> 3:38:13.520 He could run with you. He's physical, really nice tackler 3:38:13.600 --> 3:38:16.680 as well. All right, So kier Elam goes to the 3:38:16.760 --> 3:38:20.560 Buffalo Bills, and for the time being, the Dallas Cowboys 3:38:20.760 --> 3:38:24.160 are on the clock, followed by the Baltimore Ravens, who 3:38:24.240 --> 3:38:27.480 have been very active this round. The Tennessee Titans pulling 3:38:27.480 --> 3:38:29.520 off a huge deal as well. Let's get ready to 3:38:29.560 --> 3:38:47.439 rejoin the radio side. All right, guys, your Dallas Cowboys 3:38:47.520 --> 3:38:51.240 are officially on the clock right now. Sean treef joined 3:38:51.280 --> 3:38:55.000 by Cowboys insider Bobby belt Our, lead scout Brian Brouns. 3:38:55.040 --> 3:38:58.920 We've got Kyle Yeoman's and David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys 3:38:59.160 --> 3:39:02.280 dot Com. We are a ford center at the Star. 3:39:02.800 --> 3:39:05.920 A cornerback just went off the board, Cayer Elam to 3:39:06.080 --> 3:39:09.160 the Buffalo Bills, and now we have the Cowboys sitting here. 3:39:09.280 --> 3:39:12.120 We've been monitoring their war room camera. It looked like 3:39:12.240 --> 3:39:15.200 Stephen Jones was on the phone. We were guessing it 3:39:15.320 --> 3:39:17.840 wasn't with a player. You would have Jerry on with 3:39:17.920 --> 3:39:20.240 the player, then Mike McCarthy, then a position coach in 3:39:20.320 --> 3:39:23.320 the room. So my guess is they're trying to work 3:39:23.400 --> 3:39:26.640 out a deal and no one's on the phone right now, guys, 3:39:26.959 --> 3:39:29.520 is a deal done? That makes me think they made 3:39:29.560 --> 3:39:31.320 a trade. I think they trade it back with like 3:39:31.400 --> 3:39:33.800 again Chris Hall in the bottom right of the phone 3:39:34.080 --> 3:39:37.560 when they pick up picking up the phone again. So 3:39:37.800 --> 3:39:41.360 they're trying to take this five minutes to execute. Okay, well, 3:39:41.400 --> 3:39:43.520 Will's about Okay, Will and Chris with the two you 3:39:43.680 --> 3:39:46.160 need to watch and yeah, what Will's the phone calling. 3:39:46.200 --> 3:39:48.360 Will's the guy that talks to the player first, so 3:39:48.480 --> 3:39:50.680 he's the guy to watch. I'm hearing Tennessee is a 3:39:50.760 --> 3:39:53.040 potential trade back target. I don't know if that's who 3:39:53.080 --> 3:39:54.959 they're on the phone with now. And there's probably multiple 3:39:55.000 --> 3:39:56.600 teams in there, but I know the Titans that pick 3:39:56.720 --> 3:39:59.840 number twenty six could be one where they might be 3:40:00.200 --> 3:40:03.840 having some conversations. However, like I said, that's not that's 3:40:03.879 --> 3:40:06.400 probably one of multiple teams. Because we've seen Steven picked 3:40:06.440 --> 3:40:08.480 up the phone on multiple occasions. We'll put his hand 3:40:08.480 --> 3:40:11.080 on phone then took it off. Who's left on the 3:40:11.160 --> 3:40:14.080 board if they make the pick, I'll bet you five 3:40:14.160 --> 3:40:16.160 dollars it's Tyler. I think Tyler Smith would be the 3:40:16.200 --> 3:40:19.800 guy if they picked here, offensive lineman Tulsa and his 3:40:20.360 --> 3:40:24.000 position and potential a tackle that they would probably play 3:40:24.000 --> 3:40:26.680 at the at the left guard spot. He's with an 3:40:26.760 --> 3:40:29.040 eye on maybe moving him to tackle at some point 3:40:29.080 --> 3:40:31.039 in his career. Yeah, depending on how he's a Really 3:40:31.120 --> 3:40:33.360 he's a raw player, but he's big, he's powerful, He's 3:40:33.360 --> 3:40:38.080 a really good athlete. Anyone else not if they pick here. 3:40:38.120 --> 3:40:40.960 I mean to Kobe Dean, is there Devin Lloyd that 3:40:41.080 --> 3:40:44.560 he was a thirty visit? So, like I said, I 3:40:44.640 --> 3:40:47.640 wonder if this is I would love to see those grades, 3:40:47.720 --> 3:40:49.960 Like is Devin Lloyd a better player on their board? 3:40:50.000 --> 3:40:53.080 But they need an offensive lineman more. I mean, like 3:40:53.080 --> 3:40:55.760 I say, linder bamb Lloyd, Dean. I mean, those are 3:40:55.760 --> 3:40:58.360 the guys I had, but we always sort of figured 3:40:58.480 --> 3:41:00.720 that Linderbaum wasn't going to have Oh no. But I'm 3:41:00.720 --> 3:41:03.279 just saying I just wanted to go on record because 3:41:03.320 --> 3:41:05.560 I think there's some teams behind Dallas. I think Tampa 3:41:05.640 --> 3:41:08.840 Bay possibility, you know when you look at that as well. 3:41:08.920 --> 3:41:11.600 But I think that you know that he's a really 3:41:11.640 --> 3:41:13.480 he's a good player. I mean, he really, really is 3:41:13.480 --> 3:41:15.320 a good player. It's a shame that, you know, they 3:41:15.400 --> 3:41:17.200 look at the traits and stuff like that, but that's 3:41:17.200 --> 3:41:19.600 what they have their their measurables for and stuff like that. 3:41:19.720 --> 3:41:23.160 So good for them for that. It looks like Will's 3:41:23.800 --> 3:41:25.720 does he dland or is it just tapping his fingers? 3:41:26.040 --> 3:41:28.280 Is there a chance? I mean, would they stay in 3:41:28.360 --> 3:41:31.400 the first round for sure? Or is everyone gonna get 3:41:31.440 --> 3:41:35.880 up on the phone. Wow this I would guess this 3:41:36.040 --> 3:41:39.840 is Tyler Smith. Okay, so let's get ready for that man. 3:41:39.920 --> 3:41:42.840 Not a lot of Tyler Smith and the months and 3:41:43.040 --> 3:41:45.160 all the build up leading up to this, at least 3:41:45.520 --> 3:41:47.560 at one oh five three the fan, How about you guys, 3:41:47.640 --> 3:41:49.480 Dallas Cowboys? That com Jerry's on the phone. So this 3:41:49.600 --> 3:41:51.880 is a player? Yeah. We we mentioned this back in 3:41:52.280 --> 3:41:55.199 in Indianapolis. That was really where we first started hearing 3:41:55.320 --> 3:41:57.920 that they were or that he was on the Cowboys radar. 3:41:58.080 --> 3:42:01.800 Tyler Smith offensive tackle slash offensive guard at Tulsa, not 3:42:02.080 --> 3:42:05.119 the most ready made player in terms of tackle. However, 3:42:05.680 --> 3:42:07.240 you look at a guy that's a short term and 3:42:07.360 --> 3:42:10.000 Dave said it a minute ago, short term solid guard, 3:42:10.040 --> 3:42:11.720 and then you bump him out to tackle in a 3:42:11.760 --> 3:42:14.040 couple of years. I will say, like what, I talk 3:42:14.080 --> 3:42:16.000 about this all the time, like there are years where 3:42:16.040 --> 3:42:18.720 we know immediately Yeah, I mean we've we knew for 3:42:18.760 --> 3:42:20.840 a long time that Layton vander Esch was gonna wind 3:42:20.920 --> 3:42:25.040 up here. I do think we're later coming around on 3:42:25.160 --> 3:42:28.120 this one, like, yeah, we are, we are, shout out 3:42:28.160 --> 3:42:31.960 mel Kiper. Yeah, the draft godfather, he was. He had 3:42:32.000 --> 3:42:34.800 been on this one very very early. But I mean again, 3:42:35.080 --> 3:42:37.520 this one we kind of got a little They were 3:42:37.560 --> 3:42:39.320 a little sneaky with it too, because they could do 3:42:39.400 --> 3:42:41.760 the Dallas stay. We didn't have to hear about a 3:42:41.800 --> 3:42:43.800 thirty visit with Tyler Smith because he's from around here. 3:42:43.840 --> 3:42:45.879 They can you know, we didn't have to know about 3:42:45.879 --> 3:42:49.000 that interest. It's it's wild. I mean, look, it benefits 3:42:49.000 --> 3:42:50.600 the Cowboys. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's 3:42:50.640 --> 3:42:52.600 a bad thing, but that is just a wild advantage. 3:42:52.840 --> 3:42:55.120 I mean, if you grew up or went to school 3:42:55.200 --> 3:42:59.280 within what like thirty sixty miles of DFW. It's a yeah, 3:42:59.280 --> 3:43:02.119 it's a weird like based on the they like literally 3:43:02.240 --> 3:43:04.080 used like an Atlas map. I think too, if you're 3:43:04.160 --> 3:43:06.040 from around here, you can come to the facility and 3:43:06.120 --> 3:43:07.960 it doesn't count toward the visit limit. How do you 3:43:08.040 --> 3:43:10.560 think the Green Bays of the world feel about Dallas 3:43:10.640 --> 3:43:12.760 being able to do that? So if this is the 3:43:12.920 --> 3:43:18.480 pick and looking at what teams moved up with, is 3:43:18.520 --> 3:43:21.240 there a big regret standing out for you guys with 3:43:21.400 --> 3:43:23.840 where someone went and what it would have cost or 3:43:23.920 --> 3:43:25.440 you found with them to stick it in here and 3:43:25.560 --> 3:43:29.039 addressing a need that everyone probably listed is the number 3:43:29.080 --> 3:43:31.360 one thing for this football team. I mean, I think 3:43:31.400 --> 3:43:33.560 you'd want to pick up some extra capital, but I 3:43:33.600 --> 3:43:35.960 mean as long as as if they believe in the player. 3:43:36.120 --> 3:43:39.640 But do you have a move up regret where someone 3:43:39.720 --> 3:43:41.480 went and what was given up for the price? I would, 3:43:41.520 --> 3:43:43.199 but if they fit and it's Kellen Moore on the phone, 3:43:43.240 --> 3:43:47.800 this is definitely offense. So I would feel I would 3:43:47.840 --> 3:43:51.279 have gone up for Penning. I would have gotten up nineteen. 3:43:51.680 --> 3:43:53.760 But I mean that that's me if they didn't think 3:43:54.080 --> 3:43:55.880 I'm just asking you, Yeah, no, if that's what I 3:43:55.920 --> 3:43:57.560 would have done, I would have gone up and gotten Penning. 3:43:57.560 --> 3:43:59.640 All right, here we go with the selection from Roger Goodell. 3:44:04.320 --> 3:44:08.720 In twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select 3:44:09.480 --> 3:44:15.879 Tyler Smith tackle. All Right, I love you guys piecing 3:44:15.959 --> 3:44:18.360 together and I was listening to this on the drive 3:44:18.440 --> 3:44:20.920 over here brought us. You were talking about it. Yeah, 3:44:20.959 --> 3:44:23.600 you were talking about a rumor that was gaining steam 3:44:23.800 --> 3:44:25.840 with all the homework that you did, and then you 3:44:25.920 --> 3:44:28.040 guys pieced it together, which is why I love the 3:44:28.240 --> 3:44:31.000 love the show. To your point, Sean, like you were, 3:44:31.120 --> 3:44:33.360 you were talking about this, like maybe you listen too 3:44:33.440 --> 3:44:36.440 much to the stuff right before the draft. Sometimes it's right. 3:44:36.920 --> 3:44:39.680 Sometimes something kind of parachutes in on you and you're like, oh, 3:44:39.760 --> 3:44:43.040 this has legs. This is not this is not a smokescreen. 3:44:43.120 --> 3:44:44.800 And that's what happened here. So let me let me 3:44:44.879 --> 3:44:48.320 be the Cowboy fan reactor in here. All right. I'm 3:44:48.360 --> 3:44:50.600 guessing what Twitter is about to be, and you guys 3:44:50.680 --> 3:44:53.120 are the ones with the connections and you did the homework. 3:44:53.840 --> 3:44:57.520 There's gonna I think there's gonna be disappointment just because 3:44:57.800 --> 3:45:00.400 we're more comfortable here in names and ones that you 3:45:00.440 --> 3:45:02.480 guys have been projecting and ones that you guys have 3:45:02.680 --> 3:45:04.560 been excited about. So all of a sudden you get 3:45:04.600 --> 3:45:07.760 one out of the blue and you're like, huh when 3:45:07.800 --> 3:45:10.560 you've heard all the hype about Linderbaum and Penning in 3:45:10.640 --> 3:45:13.280 these guys. So I feel like, I feel like you 3:45:13.360 --> 3:45:15.600 guys are gonna have to if you feel good about it, 3:45:15.920 --> 3:45:18.280 make the Cowboy fans feel pretty good. This is where 3:45:18.360 --> 3:45:21.400 also too, I remember a draft where Travis Frederick I'll 3:45:21.400 --> 3:45:24.800 say the name right that time. Absolutely this was a 3:45:24.920 --> 3:45:27.200 dret where we thought Travis Frederick, we all have third 3:45:27.280 --> 3:45:30.280 round grades, laughed at it. Everybody's like, why why would 3:45:30.280 --> 3:45:34.240 you do this? This unathletic center from Wisconsin. He doesn't 3:45:34.400 --> 3:45:36.920 pick up his feet, he shuffles, he does all these things. 3:45:37.520 --> 3:45:39.240 There are people that will tell you in this building 3:45:39.280 --> 3:45:41.600 about Tyler Smith when you mentioned him, it's like, man, 3:45:41.760 --> 3:45:44.640 really good athlete. But this guy we've mentioned it. The 3:45:44.760 --> 3:45:47.000 holding penalies and stuff like that is there's going to 3:45:47.080 --> 3:45:49.800 be need to be some technique work here. There's going 3:45:49.920 --> 3:45:51.760 That's the first thing that people are going to do 3:45:52.240 --> 3:45:55.360 when they go back and the media ask questions, well, 3:45:55.440 --> 3:45:57.680 what about him and what about him? Know? What about 3:45:57.680 --> 3:46:00.160 these holding penalies. Didn't you just have a left are 3:46:00.280 --> 3:46:02.680 that had all these holding penalties. But this is a 3:46:02.760 --> 3:46:05.280 big man. He's six five, he's three hundred and twenty 3:46:05.280 --> 3:46:08.480 four pounds. He's extremely raw in the way that he 3:46:08.640 --> 3:46:10.800 plays right now, but he's a powerful guy in the 3:46:10.879 --> 3:46:14.120 running game. And so now I'm sere thinking, what's the 3:46:14.200 --> 3:46:17.000 problem the Cowboys have had. They've had issues trying to 3:46:17.080 --> 3:46:19.520 run the football, especially the second half of the season. 3:46:19.920 --> 3:46:22.200 This guy comes off the ball, he gets to his man, 3:46:22.280 --> 3:46:24.440 he gets some movement. You're going to have to work 3:46:24.520 --> 3:46:26.720 with him on some of the technique stuff that that 3:46:27.160 --> 3:46:29.640 is something that's going to have to happen. But you 3:46:29.720 --> 3:46:32.520 know what I mean to me, I had other guys 3:46:32.560 --> 3:46:35.320 on the board. But that's why I'm here and there there. 3:46:35.400 --> 3:46:37.840 We're all here and they're there. And I just harkened 3:46:37.879 --> 3:46:41.120 back to I wasn't a huge fan of Travis Frederick. Yeah, 3:46:41.240 --> 3:46:43.080 that's my hope right now for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm 3:46:43.160 --> 3:46:45.840 right there with you. And even going back to comparing 3:46:45.959 --> 3:46:48.840 the two, I don't think any of us had a 3:46:48.879 --> 3:46:51.480 third round grade on Tyler Smith. We had him pretty 3:46:51.520 --> 3:46:53.800 much pegged in the second round most likely, like we 3:46:53.920 --> 3:46:55.920 talked about they had a second round grade on him 3:46:55.920 --> 3:46:58.080 as well, because they were wiped out of the fourteen 3:46:58.680 --> 3:47:01.400 to sixteen names they had in the first round. Sure, 3:47:01.640 --> 3:47:03.520 I would have liked to see a Tyler Linderbaum. I 3:47:03.560 --> 3:47:05.400 had him much higher on my board. Sure, I would 3:47:05.400 --> 3:47:06.720 have loved to see a trade up and maybe go 3:47:06.800 --> 3:47:10.119 get a Trevor Penning. However, you upgraded your offensive line here, 3:47:10.520 --> 3:47:12.480 whether it's at the guard spot, and you have a 3:47:12.560 --> 3:47:15.360 secondary option at tackle as well. If you needed him 3:47:15.400 --> 3:47:17.959 to kick out, Tyrann Smith hasn't played an entire season 3:47:18.080 --> 3:47:20.720 in god knows how long a half decade now, you 3:47:20.840 --> 3:47:24.000 may need him to bump out and show that flexibility 3:47:24.080 --> 3:47:26.880 on the offensive line. He can do that. My biggest 3:47:26.959 --> 3:47:29.800 knock against Tyler Smith is the penalties, and that's something 3:47:29.879 --> 3:47:32.920 that the Cowboys certainly struggled with in twenty twenty and 3:47:33.000 --> 3:47:36.480 twenty twenty one. They commit He committed sixteen penalties this 3:47:36.560 --> 3:47:39.280 past season, twelve of which we're holding calls. That has 3:47:39.360 --> 3:47:41.200 to clean up, and I think the foundation of it 3:47:41.400 --> 3:47:43.040 and the fundamental side of it is going to be 3:47:43.120 --> 3:47:44.800 one of the ways that he cleans that up. Early 3:47:44.840 --> 3:47:47.240 in his career, what did we say last year and 3:47:47.360 --> 3:47:49.080 it's a different player in a different part of the draft. 3:47:49.120 --> 3:47:52.039 What do we say last year about Michael Parsons, Well, 3:47:52.080 --> 3:47:53.800 it's trades, there's a lot of trades, but like what 3:47:53.920 --> 3:47:56.680 kind of a football players, there's a lot of elite 3:47:56.720 --> 3:47:59.640 traits here with Tyler Smith, and you know, there's gonna 3:47:59.640 --> 3:48:00.920 be a lot that you're gonna need to lean on 3:48:01.160 --> 3:48:03.480 Joe Philbin go out there develop this guy and to 3:48:03.520 --> 3:48:05.360 help him. And so, I mean, I think that that's 3:48:05.400 --> 3:48:07.040 going to be a big part of this is that 3:48:07.600 --> 3:48:10.240 you know, trusting your offensive line coach, that your coaches 3:48:10.240 --> 3:48:11.960 to help develop him. But the traits are there, and 3:48:12.080 --> 3:48:14.000 he's a very young player. He just turned twenty one 3:48:14.200 --> 3:48:17.240 three weeks ago, so he's young. What's your degree of 3:48:17.320 --> 3:48:19.640 confidence that he can win the left guard job as 3:48:19.680 --> 3:48:25.040 a rookie? I think it's pretty high at left guard specifically. Yes, yeah, 3:48:25.200 --> 3:48:27.680 it's the only available job right now. I know, I 3:48:28.080 --> 3:48:31.680 to be honest, backups, I think the situation is they 3:48:31.760 --> 3:48:34.840 probably don't think anything much of the guys that are 3:48:34.879 --> 3:48:37.400 competing with him, you know, yeah, or they wouldn't have 3:48:37.480 --> 3:48:39.760 made this pick. I mean, I honestly feel like that 3:48:39.879 --> 3:48:42.840 they got they lost Green. That was one that they 3:48:42.879 --> 3:48:44.560 were kind of thinking. They probably didn't think they were 3:48:44.560 --> 3:48:47.440 going to get Zion Johnson, but they lost Kenyon Green 3:48:47.800 --> 3:48:49.640 and so now sudden we talked about it and I 3:48:49.680 --> 3:48:53.600 ask you, guys, you know, what's what's the situation all along? Bobby, 3:48:53.840 --> 3:48:56.200 I mean all week we've taught about not all week, 3:48:56.280 --> 3:48:58.200 but the last three days. When you start to talk 3:48:58.240 --> 3:49:00.760 about Tyler Smith, it was what's going to happen to 3:49:00.840 --> 3:49:03.320 the board? What gets you to where you draft? And 3:49:03.400 --> 3:49:05.080 they liked him a heck of a lot better than 3:49:05.280 --> 3:49:08.400 you know, than me, I know, but like I said, 3:49:08.560 --> 3:49:11.000 that's a that's a big man. You know, he's a 3:49:11.040 --> 3:49:14.520 powerful run blocker. Kyle mentions the holding calls and stuff 3:49:14.560 --> 3:49:16.960 like that. You know, how much do they like, you know, 3:49:17.120 --> 3:49:20.120 Connor McGovern do. They don't like him enough to make 3:49:20.200 --> 3:49:22.200 him to put him back in there at guard and 3:49:22.280 --> 3:49:24.960 they let and they let Connor Williams walk, So they 3:49:25.080 --> 3:49:27.440 felt like they had to do something here. So they're 3:49:27.440 --> 3:49:30.560 going to give this guy every chance to be plug 3:49:30.640 --> 3:49:33.800 and play. I don't know if technique wise and he's 3:49:33.800 --> 3:49:36.960 ready for plug and play. That's just my questions right now. 3:49:37.280 --> 3:49:39.560 So do we think that if left guard is the 3:49:39.640 --> 3:49:41.880 spot for now? Do we think though that this is 3:49:41.920 --> 3:49:44.400 still just similar plan to like we talked about with 3:49:44.440 --> 3:49:46.960 Penning across some of these other guys. You're left guard 3:49:47.040 --> 3:49:50.080 now you're left tackle of the future. I don't know. 3:49:50.320 --> 3:49:52.120 Can you say that on draft night? I mean, that's 3:49:52.120 --> 3:49:53.520 the whole I mean, you would have said that about 3:49:53.520 --> 3:49:55.080 Trevor Penning. You would have said that about Try, that 3:49:55.080 --> 3:49:56.240 you were going to plug him in at guard and 3:49:56.280 --> 3:49:58.440 eventually groom him for tackle. Is that their plan here? 3:49:58.560 --> 3:50:00.200 I think they can be their hope. I think the 3:50:00.280 --> 3:50:03.480 fact that they saw him as a guard first tells 3:50:03.520 --> 3:50:05.280 you that might you know, we we you know, we've 3:50:05.400 --> 3:50:07.040 kind of kind of feel like that they're going to 3:50:07.080 --> 3:50:09.000 try if he works out a guard, I don't see 3:50:09.040 --> 3:50:11.080 him moving the same thing they did was Zach and Martin. 3:50:11.200 --> 3:50:12.760 That's the other thing too, is Zach Martin was a 3:50:12.840 --> 3:50:16.760 tackle at Notre Dame. In a world with best case scenarios, 3:50:17.320 --> 3:50:19.480 Let's just pretend for a sect that he becomes a 3:50:19.600 --> 3:50:23.600 total road grader. Do you move him? I don't know. 3:50:23.800 --> 3:50:26.280 I mean, he's a good run blocker, but again that's 3:50:26.360 --> 3:50:30.480 that hands inside, big body, mass power, push, you know, 3:50:30.560 --> 3:50:33.000 and that's fine. They don't. They need some They need 3:50:33.120 --> 3:50:35.200 some big bodies up front as far as getting some 3:50:35.280 --> 3:50:37.400 push in that running game. And Bobby mentioned this in 3:50:37.480 --> 3:50:39.840 the lead up into the night as well. But it 3:50:39.960 --> 3:50:42.040 also adds to your locker room. This is a mean, 3:50:42.160 --> 3:50:44.440 streak sort of player that plays with an edge. He 3:50:44.560 --> 3:50:48.080 plays with that that hefty side. That Hey, it could 3:50:48.160 --> 3:50:50.760 be something that the Cowboys were looking to improve from 3:50:50.800 --> 3:50:53.480 a generality standpoint. They did it last year with Michael Parsons. 3:50:53.520 --> 3:50:55.440 They went out and got a player that plays mean. 3:50:55.960 --> 3:50:57.680 They could have done it with Trevor Penning, but here 3:50:57.680 --> 3:51:00.560 they do it with Tyler Smith. The right up from 3:51:01.640 --> 3:51:06.120 McShay was he plays with a real edge, and uh, 3:51:06.760 --> 3:51:10.520 that's it, that's all I he was mocking into the Texas. 3:51:10.560 --> 3:51:12.440 So I don't want to read the Houston steps. You know, 3:51:12.800 --> 3:51:15.720 you want the Dane Brugler summary. Yeah, a three year starter. 3:51:15.760 --> 3:51:17.280 It tells that this is the summer, not the whole 3:51:17.400 --> 3:51:19.800 report of Smith lined up at left tackle. Uh. In 3:51:19.880 --> 3:51:22.760 Philip Montgomery's up temple smash my spread, he closed off. 3:51:22.800 --> 3:51:24.600 He says. Overall, Smith is incredibly rob but he has 3:51:24.640 --> 3:51:26.800 the play strength and physical strains to get significantly better 3:51:26.840 --> 3:51:30.040 with technical and mental development. All right, the Baltimore Ravens 3:51:30.080 --> 3:51:32.360 are on the clock. We're gonna get your newest cowboy, 3:51:32.680 --> 3:51:35.920 Tyler Smith. On first, we'll have the press conference with 3:51:36.240 --> 3:51:39.280 Jerry and the crew explaining the thought process. We continue 3:51:39.280 --> 3:51:41.840 to close out the first round. It's the twenty twenty 3:51:41.840 --> 3:51:43.960 two NFL Draft on one oh five through the fan 3:51:44.000 --> 3:51:53.600 in the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. What type of social 3:51:53.680 --> 3:51:58.040 media reaction so far? David Helmet, Oh, negative, it's probably 3:51:58.120 --> 3:52:01.160 right up where you are anticipating. Yeah, well, I think 3:52:01.200 --> 3:52:03.680 it's an you know, unfamiliarity. Let's go to the Ravens 3:52:03.720 --> 3:52:09.040 with their pick real quick. This is karma for us 3:52:09.120 --> 3:52:13.760 making fun of the Ravens. My lord, is it really Lenderbaum? 3:52:15.800 --> 3:52:18.680 What do the Ravens do, Sean Kyle, They hang out, 3:52:19.240 --> 3:52:21.720 They let really good players fall to them. Shoot, they 3:52:22.080 --> 3:52:24.440 traded twice. They tried to get away from this guy, 3:52:24.680 --> 3:52:26.600 they still wound up with him. And who did they 3:52:26.680 --> 3:52:31.560 get earlier? Kyle Hamilton? Hamilton Hamilton. They traded Hollywood for 3:52:31.960 --> 3:52:35.440 first and they still have receivers um. And then they 3:52:35.520 --> 3:52:38.760 go and get their center to fall to them at 3:52:39.000 --> 3:52:42.520 number twenty five. They didn't have a quarterback either. Oh ooh, 3:52:42.720 --> 3:52:45.840 I like that hot take. I like the hot take 3:52:46.000 --> 3:52:47.800 I did. I did radio with Bobby a couple of 3:52:47.800 --> 3:52:49.440 weeks ago, and you dropped that on me. Oh I 3:52:49.560 --> 3:52:52.000 like that, Bobby. Uh So, the Titans are on the 3:52:52.080 --> 3:52:56.720 clock at twenties. The Ravens picked for the first time 3:52:56.800 --> 3:52:59.880 at pick number fourteen, and they took players number four 3:53:00.200 --> 3:53:03.040 and eleven on my board. Now, I'm I'm very much 3:53:03.080 --> 3:53:06.240 so higher on Linderbaum and Hamilton than most, but they 3:53:06.840 --> 3:53:10.640 at fourteen and twenty five took four and eleven off 3:53:10.680 --> 3:53:12.520 of the board. I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. 3:53:12.600 --> 3:53:15.880 I feel vindicated I had I had Tyler lindabamb is 3:53:15.920 --> 3:53:18.880 my tenth best player. Wow. And the fact that the 3:53:19.040 --> 3:53:23.120 Ravens took him. I'm exstatic, yes, because that is one 3:53:23.120 --> 3:53:26.400 of the better drafting teams in NFL right there. So 3:53:26.720 --> 3:53:30.160 lender Bomb goes and now Tennessee will be followed by 3:53:30.400 --> 3:53:34.440 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Green Bay Packers. Are 3:53:34.480 --> 3:53:37.040 you guys? Are you guys like a little deflated right now? 3:53:37.560 --> 3:53:39.680 I'm not okay, no, no, no, no. I think we 3:53:39.760 --> 3:53:42.400 had kind of come to the realization this is where 3:53:42.400 --> 3:53:44.440 it was heading when Penning went off the board, I 3:53:44.480 --> 3:53:45.960 think you had a good understanding of Okay, this is 3:53:46.000 --> 3:53:48.320 where things more just came down to can they get 3:53:48.360 --> 3:53:50.480 an extra draft capital? Can they move back? I think 3:53:50.520 --> 3:53:52.800 they were maybe I don't know, if they just couldn't 3:53:52.800 --> 3:53:54.440 find a trade or they were more trying to check 3:53:54.520 --> 3:53:56.000 in and make sure you're not kind of like we're 3:53:56.000 --> 3:53:58.320 not gonna lose Tyler Smith if we go back. Yeah, 3:53:58.440 --> 3:54:01.960 which again, this is something I always talk about and 3:54:02.040 --> 3:54:05.800 I try to explain to people, is like people are understandable, 3:54:05.840 --> 3:54:07.360 like a lot of people like Tyler Linderbaum and I 3:54:07.400 --> 3:54:09.240 get it, he's a really good player, and they're like 3:54:09.320 --> 3:54:11.800 he was sitting right there. They never were going to 3:54:11.840 --> 3:54:13.960 do that. Hope they never were. No, No, we we 3:54:14.520 --> 3:54:16.480 some of that. Some of this stuff becomes easier to 3:54:16.600 --> 3:54:18.560 digest when you think of it that way, where you're like, 3:54:18.880 --> 3:54:21.600 I get it, you disagree, you came to terms with it, 3:54:21.720 --> 3:54:23.760 but you're they're just not going to do it again. 3:54:23.760 --> 3:54:27.000 And again that's my point is like how worked up 3:54:27.000 --> 3:54:29.440 am I supposed to get about something that is completely 3:54:29.480 --> 3:54:33.560 beyond my control just because of the measurables? Yeah, or 3:54:33.760 --> 3:54:35.760 or or they don't they don't think he fits what 3:54:35.840 --> 3:54:37.440 they like to do. But that's probably a little bit 3:54:37.440 --> 3:54:39.000 of both. I think, you know, when they can't tell 3:54:39.000 --> 3:54:41.200 about position flights, he said he's a center that Yeah, Kurt, 3:54:41.280 --> 3:54:44.520 Kurt ferrets is the is the head coach at Iowa. 3:54:44.920 --> 3:54:47.720 He used to be with the Ravens and stuff like 3:54:47.840 --> 3:54:50.360 that in Baltimore and stept before he was a head coach. Trade, 3:54:50.760 --> 3:54:54.000 so he's he knew he gave him the idea on this. 3:54:54.200 --> 3:54:56.240 The Jets traded into the first round. Yeah, just just 3:54:56.360 --> 3:54:59.360 came up. Titans gave that pick up. Tennessee doesn't want 3:54:59.360 --> 3:55:01.240 to sit still to night either. It feels like they're 3:55:01.280 --> 3:55:04.040 doing a ton of stuff. They trade a j Brown 3:55:04.240 --> 3:55:06.480 to the Eagles in case you're just joining us on 3:55:06.600 --> 3:55:08.760 the Cowboys dot com side, and then they go and 3:55:08.880 --> 3:55:12.760 draft his replacement in Trail and Burke's and now they 3:55:12.800 --> 3:55:16.440 are moving back with the New York Jets. So here 3:55:16.480 --> 3:55:19.200 we go with the with the Titans. What are you thinking? 3:55:19.240 --> 3:55:21.640 I just I gotta tweet from somebody here, and like, 3:55:21.760 --> 3:55:25.000 I just want to make this clear. Somebody had said, uh, oh, 3:55:25.080 --> 3:55:27.840 this is this is the offense talking about the pick here. Yeah, 3:55:28.080 --> 3:55:30.280 And so I mean I don't know. Well, we'll dive 3:55:30.320 --> 3:55:32.480 into that later. I guess, get your get your Tyler 3:55:32.520 --> 3:55:34.880 Smith questions ready, he's on hold. So when we come 3:55:34.920 --> 3:55:37.600 back on the radio side, wonderful, get ready to fire 3:55:37.640 --> 3:55:42.440 off some questions. What are we gonna ask? Interest level? 3:55:42.520 --> 3:55:45.760 When did you know that's a good one? Yeah? When? 3:55:45.960 --> 3:55:49.760 What point in the process was the first communication? Hometown team? Yeah? 3:55:49.920 --> 3:55:52.440 How does it feel good? That's with the hometown team. Okay, 3:55:53.360 --> 3:55:55.920 I'm just having you guys, get ready for your questions, 3:55:56.640 --> 3:55:59.520 pizza and get ready, get and get ready to get 3:55:59.560 --> 3:56:02.200 my caffee kick in. So the newest cowboy is gonna 3:56:02.200 --> 3:56:06.160 be joining us here momentarily. How do you summarize the 3:56:06.200 --> 3:56:10.480 first round so far? Guys? Predictable that's I mean, not 3:56:10.640 --> 3:56:13.840 not predictable, but more predictable than I anticipated. Maybe for 3:56:14.000 --> 3:56:17.320 you the names that have the names that have gone 3:56:17.360 --> 3:56:20.440 have been predictable. But everything that's happened has been wild, sure, 3:56:20.440 --> 3:56:22.640 because you weren't surprised in the in the first ten 3:56:22.760 --> 3:56:26.160 really at all. No. Some of these like trading receivers 3:56:26.240 --> 3:56:28.000 way A. J. Brown and Hollywood Brown like that, That's 3:56:28.000 --> 3:56:31.320 what I'm talking and the Saints trading up for a receiver, etc. 3:56:32.040 --> 3:56:34.360 And you can still have names out there like Deebo 3:56:34.560 --> 3:56:39.120 and Garoppolo and Baker Mayfield and some of these different guys. 3:56:39.200 --> 3:56:42.600 Did Jermaine Johnson's light is surprising? Yes? I agree? Yeah, 3:56:42.640 --> 3:56:45.680 I agreed. Okay, let's get ready to rejoin the radio, 3:56:45.680 --> 3:56:48.560 and then we'll have the newest Dallas Cowboy, Tyler Smith, 3:56:48.680 --> 3:57:12.880 on with us. All right, And part of being your 3:57:13.000 --> 3:57:17.320 Home of America's team is the access the Dallas Cowboys 3:57:17.360 --> 3:57:22.080 at number twenty four draft Tulsa offensive tackle Tyler Smith, 3:57:22.520 --> 3:57:25.520 and he's joining us right now. UM one oh five 3:57:25.680 --> 3:57:31.160 three the Fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Hello, Tyler, Congratulations. 3:57:31.200 --> 3:57:35.520 How's it feel, man? It's a it's it's indescribable. Man. 3:57:35.600 --> 3:57:37.800 I can't even I can't even put it into words. 3:57:37.880 --> 3:57:40.480 Really paint the picture at your house. It sounds like 3:57:40.600 --> 3:57:43.480 it's a little bit of fun wherever you are, man. 3:57:43.960 --> 3:57:46.080 I mean, as soon as it happen, you know, everybody yelling, 3:57:46.160 --> 3:57:49.200 everybody screaming. You know, I'm in Pierce shock. I'm talking 3:57:49.240 --> 3:57:52.240 to mister Jones. I'm like, man, like you know you 3:57:52.320 --> 3:57:54.400 always got you almost gotta pinch yourself. It's like a 3:57:54.520 --> 3:57:58.520 dream like you're waking up into When did you start 3:57:58.760 --> 3:58:00.880 first getting the feeling that this could happen and the 3:58:00.920 --> 3:58:05.800 Cowboys were interested in you? Man, I'm to be honest, 3:58:05.880 --> 3:58:07.880 the only time I knew is I had a probably 3:58:07.960 --> 3:58:10.880 work out with them and like I heard good things, 3:58:10.960 --> 3:58:13.080 but like throughout the process, I just I really didn't 3:58:13.120 --> 3:58:14.960 know till the day. But you know, it's a blessing 3:58:16.240 --> 3:58:18.320 now playing for the hometown team. I mean, you grew 3:58:18.400 --> 3:58:20.800 up in Fort Worths, you played at North Crowley High School. 3:58:20.960 --> 3:58:22.880 What does it mean to you and your family to 3:58:23.200 --> 3:58:25.520 be able to play close to home and play for 3:58:25.560 --> 3:58:29.760 the franchise? Length to Cowboys? Man, I mean, it's indescribable. Man. 3:58:29.800 --> 3:58:33.440 You know I played college football Tussa, Oklahoma, and you know, 3:58:33.520 --> 3:58:35.760 the quire to be called home man, to play play 3:58:35.840 --> 3:58:37.640 for the great statement. There's the other thing I like 3:58:37.720 --> 3:58:40.440 you now you are a Cowboy fan. Though, let's clarify 3:58:40.560 --> 3:58:44.520 that right, you are a Cowboy fan? Yes, sir, all right, 3:58:44.600 --> 3:58:49.240 it's the right answer. Hey, Tyler, congratulations, man, I'm just curious, 3:58:49.280 --> 3:58:52.160 I mean from from the outsider's perspective, and we talk 3:58:52.200 --> 3:58:55.560 about your fit and and how you how you look 3:58:55.560 --> 3:58:58.240 at the NFL level, We assume that you would start 3:58:58.280 --> 3:58:59.880 out at guard if they talked to you about that, 3:59:00.280 --> 3:59:03.240 What's what's your kind of idea for what your role 3:59:03.320 --> 3:59:06.600 looks like at this level of football. Man, they haven't 3:59:06.640 --> 3:59:08.400 talked to me about it, but you know, all ready 3:59:08.440 --> 3:59:10.880 to play off opposition, do whatever I can help the 3:59:10.960 --> 3:59:13.440 team win. Man, that's my That's my only goal is 3:59:13.480 --> 3:59:15.800 contributing and making sure we get to that Super Bowl. 3:59:16.080 --> 3:59:20.920 It's like your home now, Tyler. Again, congratulations on getting 3:59:20.960 --> 3:59:23.520 picked by the hometown team. We talk about that there about. Like, 3:59:23.560 --> 3:59:25.120 have they talked to you about playing garter tackle? I 3:59:25.200 --> 3:59:27.440 know you played tackle pretty much exclusively at Tulsa, but 3:59:27.440 --> 3:59:29.960 you're actually a guard recruit coming out of high school. 3:59:30.000 --> 3:59:33.440 Where do you feel most comfortable playing? I mean, you know, 3:59:34.040 --> 3:59:36.760 almost comfortable playing wherever. Man, you know, I trained for 3:59:36.880 --> 3:59:38.480 it all. You know, I'm willing to put the work 3:59:38.560 --> 3:59:40.600 in and take the coach and to do whatever I 3:59:40.680 --> 3:59:43.480 gotta do. Like so that's kind of you know, that's 3:59:43.560 --> 3:59:46.760 my outlook. Or I could play anywhere they put me, Tyler. 3:59:46.960 --> 3:59:49.480 You know, as a Cowboy fan though, you're you gotta 3:59:49.480 --> 3:59:52.080 be familiar though with this offensive line right what you're 3:59:52.120 --> 3:59:54.400 about to be part of you understand, you're kind of 3:59:54.400 --> 3:59:56.760 getting the feeling like, hey, wait a minute, Tyren Smith 3:59:56.840 --> 3:59:58.760 and Zach Martin and those guys, you gotta be excited 3:59:58.760 --> 4:00:02.240 about being teammates with those guys. Now, I'm too excited. 4:00:02.280 --> 4:00:04.840 You know, I grew up watching those guys like, you know, 4:00:05.000 --> 4:00:08.200 from the NFL. Taught one hundred to just like break 4:00:08.280 --> 4:00:11.280 down videos of Tyren Smith and Zach Martin and all 4:00:11.320 --> 4:00:14.320 those guys. Like it's it's just crazy to me to 4:00:14.400 --> 4:00:16.040 be able to call my teammates, But they're gonna be 4:00:16.080 --> 4:00:18.440 a great source, you know, to learn from to you know, 4:00:18.560 --> 4:00:20.680 perfect my craft, and it's just it's a blessing of beer. 4:00:21.320 --> 4:00:23.680 Now for most Cowboys fans out there, this is the 4:00:23.760 --> 4:00:26.680 first time they're hearing you, and you're hearing your story. 4:00:27.160 --> 4:00:29.280 What do you feel like is your biggest strength as 4:00:29.360 --> 4:00:31.480 a player as you enter the NFL And what are 4:00:31.520 --> 4:00:33.280 some things that you feel like need to take the 4:00:33.400 --> 4:00:36.240 next step now that you're at the pro level. Man, 4:00:36.320 --> 4:00:37.960 I feel like, you know, one of my biggest trains, 4:00:37.960 --> 4:00:39.760 you know, I care a great chip on my shoulders. 4:00:40.160 --> 4:00:43.320 You know, I'm I'm athletically gifted, I'm physical. The effort 4:00:43.720 --> 4:00:45.480 is always gonna be out one hundred and twenty percent 4:00:45.520 --> 4:00:49.120 to affinity. But you know, I'm gonna go wherever and 4:00:49.240 --> 4:00:51.240 do whatever to win. And that's you know, that's my 4:00:51.320 --> 4:00:53.840 greatest strength. Obviously. You know I gotta get then, I 4:00:53.880 --> 4:00:55.480 gotta get the coaching, like you know, I'm gonna get 4:00:55.520 --> 4:00:57.720 coached up and continue to prove and every stats of 4:00:57.800 --> 4:01:00.320 my game. Like you know, I'm never satisfied, you know, 4:01:00.360 --> 4:01:01.840 all ready to do whatever it takes to get to 4:01:01.880 --> 4:01:05.280 the next level every day. Newest Cowboys offensive lineman Tyler 4:01:05.320 --> 4:01:07.720 Smith joining us. We heard that they were looking for 4:01:07.800 --> 4:01:10.440 a little more nastiness in the offseason, a little bit 4:01:10.760 --> 4:01:14.840 more edge. Can you provide that? Man? That's my motto, 4:01:15.000 --> 4:01:17.840 that's my m os so. I definitely got him on that. 4:01:18.200 --> 4:01:21.160 What's your nickname? What do they call you? What should 4:01:21.200 --> 4:01:24.160 we get used to man? Pete? I mean Pete. Most 4:01:24.160 --> 4:01:27.200 people call me t says like my social media handles 4:01:27.240 --> 4:01:31.200 and stuff, but they called me anything. I'm a man 4:01:31.240 --> 4:01:35.320 of the people. Guys, are you good to go? Ready 4:01:35.360 --> 4:01:38.000 to go? Congratulations Tyler? Happy to have you on board, man. 4:01:38.960 --> 4:01:41.760 I appreciate him now. I'm truly blessed to be here. Man, 4:01:41.800 --> 4:01:43.800 it's an honor. What you can't say that out enough? 4:01:43.880 --> 4:01:47.040 What's your cell phone looking like right now? Man? It's 4:01:47.040 --> 4:01:49.360 still it's deep and now as we talk, man, you know, 4:01:49.440 --> 4:01:52.280 I got y'all at one here notifications of the other man, 4:01:52.320 --> 4:01:55.240 but it's still blessing it. Hey man, congratulations, we're really 4:01:55.320 --> 4:01:57.560 really happy for you. Good to see the hometown kid 4:01:57.920 --> 4:02:01.800 join America's team and we'll see in person soon. Absolutely, 4:02:01.920 --> 4:02:05.520 thank you so much for having me. Thank you. He's excited, Wow, 4:02:05.680 --> 4:02:10.160 as he should be. Awesome. Congratulations to him. If that 4:02:10.600 --> 4:02:14.760 was excitement, I wonder what the secret audio sounds like here. 4:02:14.800 --> 4:02:18.880 It is, Yes, sir, you get to Dallas from Tulsa. 4:02:19.240 --> 4:02:22.280 I absolutely again, I'm already hearing for words. Sir, you're 4:02:22.320 --> 4:02:25.280 in fault Worth. Well, this is Jerry Jones and we're 4:02:25.360 --> 4:02:29.320 fixing to turn your card in and as of this moment, 4:02:29.360 --> 4:02:32.560 you're a Dallas cowboy. Thank you, sir. It's honor. Well, 4:02:33.200 --> 4:02:35.880 you've sure impressed a lot of guys in this room, 4:02:36.000 --> 4:02:39.680 your coaches to be and uh, I want you to 4:02:39.760 --> 4:02:42.200 know something. You beat out two or three really good 4:02:42.280 --> 4:02:45.080 players here that we had an opportunity to take over you. 4:02:45.200 --> 4:02:49.320 So you give yourself some victory. For the day. You've 4:02:49.360 --> 4:02:52.400 brought me some pretty good guys out for get picked here. 4:02:52.480 --> 4:02:55.160 So seriously, we're proud to have you and proud to 4:02:55.240 --> 4:02:58.080 be picking him. I appreciate it, coase, you're gonna get everything. 4:02:58.600 --> 4:03:00.920 I promise you that. Now, then I want you to 4:03:01.200 --> 4:03:05.759 say hello to our coach, Mike McCarthy. Hey, Tyler, congratulations, 4:03:07.040 --> 4:03:09.920 Hey are you? Are you with your family right now? Yes? Sir? 4:03:10.600 --> 4:03:12.400 All right? Well, hey, enjoyed this moment. This is special 4:03:12.480 --> 4:03:14.320 moment in your life. And I can't tell you how 4:03:14.400 --> 4:03:17.720 thrilled we are as an organization and as a coaching staff, 4:03:17.720 --> 4:03:20.320 and I know our team has so fired up to 4:03:20.440 --> 4:03:23.440 add you to our lock room. So congratulations, enjoy the moment. 4:03:24.320 --> 4:03:27.680 Thank you, coach, Thank you. All right. There's Kellen Moore, 4:03:27.680 --> 4:03:30.800 our offensive corder. How are you doing, coach more? Tyler? 4:03:30.880 --> 4:03:33.000 What's up? Man? This is Kellen. We are fired up 4:03:33.000 --> 4:03:35.560 to have you, man, this is gonna be awesome. How 4:03:35.640 --> 4:03:37.800 fired up to beer? Because I promise you're gonna get 4:03:37.800 --> 4:03:39.840 everything I got to do. You're gonna so much fun here. 4:03:39.840 --> 4:03:41.360 You're gonna be a perfect, great group. I'm gonna do 4:03:41.360 --> 4:03:45.640 something special. Yes, enjoy it. Half fun man, Absolutely, Thank 4:03:45.640 --> 4:03:47.800 you for bringing me home. Alrightey, I love it. See 4:03:47.840 --> 4:03:54.680 a man. That's awesome. So there's the secret audio draft 4:03:54.720 --> 4:03:57.160 call with Newis Cowboy Tyler Smith. Yeah. I love the 4:03:57.200 --> 4:03:59.200 way that you know, the passion and the fire and 4:03:59.320 --> 4:04:01.000 wanting to get the job done and stuff, and the 4:04:01.080 --> 4:04:03.000 fact he's a Cowboy fan. I think that's great. I 4:04:03.040 --> 4:04:05.320 think it's interesting that Jerry Jones just told you that 4:04:05.400 --> 4:04:08.240 there were some guys that they had above him or 4:04:08.400 --> 4:04:10.960 near him that And I'm interested, And I know David 4:04:11.040 --> 4:04:14.120 Hellman tonight he is going to ask Jerry Jones that question. 4:04:14.200 --> 4:04:17.440 When you were on the phone with Tyler, you said 4:04:17.520 --> 4:04:19.720 some players you know you talk about and these players 4:04:20.160 --> 4:04:22.520 he probably won't tell you. But that's why I think 4:04:22.600 --> 4:04:24.520 why things got held up a little bit. You know, 4:04:24.680 --> 4:04:27.640 Stephen and those guys. Maybe they were trying to move 4:04:27.720 --> 4:04:29.560 the pick. You know, maybe they had a pocket of 4:04:29.640 --> 4:04:31.200 guys that they were kind of kind of and they 4:04:31.280 --> 4:04:33.800 maybe they didn't get the pick they wanted out of that. 4:04:33.920 --> 4:04:35.880 I think they were worried if they traded back that 4:04:36.040 --> 4:04:37.920 he would go he would get like that's who somebody 4:04:38.040 --> 4:04:41.280 was trying to come get. Yeah, So Tennessee bailed out 4:04:41.320 --> 4:04:44.440 of their pick to the Jets, and there was another 4:04:44.560 --> 4:04:49.400 Jermade Johnson. So Jackson goes on the clock. There was 4:04:49.920 --> 4:04:53.240 Tyler Smith had been connected to Tennessee, and so I 4:04:53.320 --> 4:04:55.520 wonder if that was their concern about going back and 4:04:55.680 --> 4:04:58.000 and when Tyler Smith went, maybe that's why Tennessee went back. 4:04:58.160 --> 4:05:01.280 I think that is very likely what happened. Yea. And 4:05:01.760 --> 4:05:06.920 it reminds me was it last year? Uh oh my gosh, 4:05:06.960 --> 4:05:09.040 I'm drawn a blank. Like remember in the third round, 4:05:09.160 --> 4:05:10.880 like they made a pick and then like your three 4:05:11.000 --> 4:05:13.560 favorite players went off the board right after the thing. Yep. 4:05:13.800 --> 4:05:15.720 And that's I mean, you look at Tyler Linderbaum and 4:05:15.800 --> 4:05:17.600 Jermaine Johnson. I mean, that's what fans are going to 4:05:17.680 --> 4:05:19.200 have their eye on when they look at this pick 4:05:19.320 --> 4:05:22.360 from years from now. But to your point, Brough, I 4:05:22.400 --> 4:05:25.520 mean grades are a lie. Like they're not a lie 4:05:25.560 --> 4:05:27.720 in the sense that they exist, but this team will 4:05:27.840 --> 4:05:30.560 manipulate them to get what they want. I think it right, 4:05:30.840 --> 4:05:33.600 they do, Yeah, regularly. I think the pick that you're 4:05:33.680 --> 4:05:36.360 you're referencing was was nashun right at ninety nine and 4:05:36.440 --> 4:05:40.480 then it went Elijah Molden. I couldn't remember Thomas like 4:05:41.280 --> 4:05:44.600 like literally Brian's best of board went from three to none, 4:05:44.800 --> 4:05:47.280 like right after that pick was made. Yeah, look, let's 4:05:47.400 --> 4:05:49.600 let's just be honest about it. In terms of the 4:05:49.680 --> 4:05:52.960 analysis and the projections and the reaction, they knew the 4:05:53.000 --> 4:05:54.960 player a lot better than we do. Of course, people 4:05:55.160 --> 4:05:57.880 people that's and again we get it. We can influence 4:05:58.000 --> 4:06:00.720 and I think this sometimes we have the draft shows 4:06:00.760 --> 4:06:03.960 we do. Let's get real quick, then we'll go get 4:06:03.960 --> 4:06:07.520 back to you and Walker. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have 4:06:07.680 --> 4:06:12.440 traded the twenty six, twenty seventh pick to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 4:06:13.760 --> 4:06:16.920 We're the twenty seventh pick in the twenty twenty two 4:06:17.040 --> 4:06:23.920 NFL Draft. The Jacksonville Jaguars select Devin Lloyd, linebacker Utah. 4:06:25.840 --> 4:06:28.120 So there you go with Devin Lloyd, who some people 4:06:28.120 --> 4:06:30.280 were thinking New England was gonna select. What were you 4:06:30.320 --> 4:06:32.320 about to say, brought us? Well, I was. He was 4:06:32.400 --> 4:06:35.240 my seventh best player on my board. So congratulations my 4:06:35.280 --> 4:06:38.480 guy down there, Doug Peterson and twenty seven. Yeah, what 4:06:38.600 --> 4:06:40.000 he was able to do. This guy's gonna be a 4:06:40.040 --> 4:06:42.440 hell of a football player. I really do believe that. Um, 4:06:42.600 --> 4:06:45.920 But I will say this though, you know, with this 4:06:46.160 --> 4:06:47.880 is the thing about it is when you know, we 4:06:48.200 --> 4:06:51.000 we influence people with like our talk, you know, and 4:06:51.080 --> 4:06:53.040 we and Dave and we all caught we all do 4:06:53.120 --> 4:06:55.600 these shows and you start to talk and we kind 4:06:55.640 --> 4:06:57.800 of talk about the same guys over and over and 4:06:57.880 --> 4:07:00.240 over again, and then we don't talk about out of 4:07:00.280 --> 4:07:03.600 Tyler Smith. But but people in the NFL circles, in 4:07:03.760 --> 4:07:06.200 Scouts and stuff are like men. Because I did have 4:07:06.320 --> 4:07:08.480 a guy a couple of weeks ago in the organization. 4:07:08.920 --> 4:07:11.400 I asked about the whole thing with Tyler Smith. I say, 4:07:11.600 --> 4:07:13.800 is that because it was the Kuiper question that I had? 4:07:14.240 --> 4:07:17.240 How did Kiper what? And he goes, hey, man, is 4:07:17.280 --> 4:07:20.720 Tyler Smith's a really good athlete and he didn't really 4:07:20.760 --> 4:07:23.160 want to go into it much more than that. So 4:07:23.320 --> 4:07:25.880 I'm like, oh, okay, follow it away. And then today 4:07:26.480 --> 4:07:30.040 Bobby always were running down the Tyler Smith stuff and 4:07:30.160 --> 4:07:34.560 as the board fell, that's the scenario in their mind, 4:07:34.680 --> 4:07:37.520 that's the way it came down. They needed a guard, 4:07:37.600 --> 4:07:40.560 They need a big, powerful guy, and hopefully this guy 4:07:40.560 --> 4:07:42.320 will work out for him. Though, I mean, I feel 4:07:42.400 --> 4:07:45.160 like in a way, because we don't talk about somebody 4:07:45.240 --> 4:07:47.760 that maybe the fans are like, oh, damn who they 4:07:47.840 --> 4:07:51.480 just take? Yeah, you know, whereas whereas we should be like, hey, 4:07:51.720 --> 4:07:54.760 they're the ones in the room. First round offensive linemen 4:07:54.840 --> 4:07:58.080 have been there forte you know, yep, And so that's 4:07:58.160 --> 4:07:59.840 that's the credit you got to give them, right or 4:08:00.000 --> 4:08:02.800 at least that's the leeway that you have to give 4:08:02.840 --> 4:08:05.440 them right now. Look, if you're sitting there and go 4:08:05.560 --> 4:08:07.960 in like, oh, you didn't talk about it enough, like 4:08:08.040 --> 4:08:09.880 we just said a few minutes ago, had the Cowboys 4:08:09.960 --> 4:08:12.440 not picked him here, there was enough chatter. I think 4:08:12.640 --> 4:08:14.480 he was going in the first round regardless the NFL 4:08:14.600 --> 4:08:17.440 viewed him as a first round player. Yes, yeah, And 4:08:17.560 --> 4:08:19.760 I also mean not just Keiper and mocking him here 4:08:19.800 --> 4:08:22.240 like Daniel Jeremiah's had him in the back half of 4:08:22.320 --> 4:08:24.880 his mocks for for a while or months. So in 4:08:25.000 --> 4:08:28.520 fact that DJ talks to everybody in personnel offices across 4:08:28.520 --> 4:08:30.200 the league, DJ will know what I think the moral 4:08:30.240 --> 4:08:33.920 of the story is, we need we need new draft analysts. Wow, 4:08:36.640 --> 4:08:38.480 that's how you light it up. You guys just totally 4:08:38.600 --> 4:08:43.400 miss joke the side note real quick, uh, Tyler Smith, 4:08:44.640 --> 4:08:47.240 I was having some of the listeners say ask him 4:08:47.240 --> 4:08:49.000 about I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing this tribe of 4:08:49.520 --> 4:08:52.840 blounce disease. He had this as a child, a condition 4:08:52.960 --> 4:08:56.400 found in kids that affects the growth plates around the knee. 4:08:56.760 --> 4:08:58.920 Causes the growth plate near the inside of the knee 4:08:58.960 --> 4:09:02.400 to either slow down or stop making new bone. Meanwhile, 4:09:02.440 --> 4:09:04.760 the growth plate near the outside of the knee continues 4:09:04.800 --> 4:09:08.520 to grow normally. So he overcame that I'm not saying 4:09:08.560 --> 4:09:11.600 that that's a current metal condition or worry, but people 4:09:11.640 --> 4:09:14.680 were telling us to ask about that, but we had 4:09:14.680 --> 4:09:17.000 to let Tyler get back to the celebration. This will 4:09:17.040 --> 4:09:19.440 be the this will be the first of like a 4:09:19.560 --> 4:09:22.640 million interviews that. He was like, we'll have another opportunity. 4:09:22.680 --> 4:09:25.400 That's call me a voice if you want to. Like 4:09:25.560 --> 4:09:27.240 people are like, I ask them about the holding calls. 4:09:27.280 --> 4:09:29.040 I'm like, why we can get to that. I'm not 4:09:29.120 --> 4:09:35.680 gonna rain on his parade. Sixteen interviewed Jerry Congratulations, you suck. 4:09:35.920 --> 4:09:38.600 I've interviewed Jerry Jones once a week for eleven years. 4:09:38.760 --> 4:09:44.160 I've been told ask better questions. Yeah, ask the ask 4:09:44.240 --> 4:09:46.080 the right thing all the time. Look, this is part 4:09:46.120 --> 4:09:48.320 of the fun of it, right, And we've we've we've 4:09:48.400 --> 4:09:53.080 had missus and you have hits with fan reaction. Taco Charlton, 4:09:53.440 --> 4:09:55.880 you got it right. As Jerry joked about the other day, 4:09:56.120 --> 4:09:59.160 we all missed on Travis Frederick and and and let's 4:09:59.200 --> 4:10:03.360 be real, many of us missed on Michael Parsons. Many 4:10:03.400 --> 4:10:06.000 of us missed on Michael Parsons. So we'll see what happens. 4:10:06.000 --> 4:10:09.000 But this is the fun of it getting interested, invested 4:10:09.320 --> 4:10:13.480 and thrilled or disappointed. I mean, I think he's just 4:10:13.840 --> 4:10:15.200 from what we have here, this is going to be 4:10:15.240 --> 4:10:17.520 an easy person for people to root for. Anybody down. 4:10:17.600 --> 4:10:19.720 This is a local kid kid. This is a gritty 4:10:19.800 --> 4:10:22.920 kid who went way under recruited coming out of high school. 4:10:22.960 --> 4:10:25.560 Didn't even get an offer from TCU. His local school, 4:10:26.240 --> 4:10:28.600 uh you know, goes to Tulsa, has the career, he does, 4:10:29.240 --> 4:10:31.640 rises up draft boards, you hear him. He's a fun 4:10:31.720 --> 4:10:34.080 loving guy. He's a very positive, upbeat guy, and he 4:10:34.120 --> 4:10:35.600 plays with a chip on his shoulder. I think all 4:10:35.600 --> 4:10:37.120 these things are going to be very easy to root. 4:10:37.200 --> 4:10:39.920 The easy joke right now to make is obviously you 4:10:40.040 --> 4:10:42.240 got rid of Connor and then draft to Connor, So 4:10:42.400 --> 4:10:45.560 get ready for that tomorrow with your shows and all 4:10:45.600 --> 4:10:48.440 the other coverage. Yeah, I just got somebody that texted 4:10:48.480 --> 4:10:51.360 me in the organization was telling me that that the Titans. 4:10:51.480 --> 4:10:54.680 To Bobby's point, Bobby once again with the stuff. Titans 4:10:54.800 --> 4:10:57.200 kept calling and trying to get the deal Sweden deal, 4:10:57.240 --> 4:11:00.360 and finally they got Jerry to admit that they's who 4:11:00.360 --> 4:11:02.960 they were going to take. Jerry Jones. He's told so 4:11:03.040 --> 4:11:05.280 many stories about that over the years. Jerry Jersey get 4:11:05.320 --> 4:11:07.520 people to do that. It's amazing. He did it in 4:11:07.600 --> 4:11:09.560 a draft. He did it in the Roy Williams draft. 4:11:09.600 --> 4:11:13.640 He got is this in regards Tyler laughing Bobby, Bobby, 4:11:14.840 --> 4:11:16.920 let's tease it. Tell us. I think this is gonna 4:11:16.960 --> 4:11:18.920 make you feel a little bit better about another team 4:11:19.160 --> 4:11:22.400 wanting Tyler Smith brought us, just got some inside info, 4:11:22.520 --> 4:11:24.680 will bring you the intels. We finished up the first 4:11:24.760 --> 4:11:26.640 round on one oh five three the Fan and the 4:11:26.720 --> 4:11:36.720 Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. All right, could you imagine if 4:11:36.760 --> 4:11:39.080 the Titans would have jumped up in front of Dallas 4:11:39.160 --> 4:11:41.720 and took Burkes and this guy from they would have 4:11:41.760 --> 4:11:44.840 been so furious. That had to be where they were 4:11:44.880 --> 4:11:46.840 cracking up in the war room. Magic. That's gotta be 4:11:46.960 --> 4:11:48.840 why Well, I think I think that's what they're probably 4:11:48.880 --> 4:11:52.160 laughing because Bobby's intel is absolutely right that the Titans 4:11:52.200 --> 4:11:54.120 were a team that we're trying. And then you know 4:11:54.240 --> 4:11:56.320 this has happened before and again I'll tell the story 4:11:56.360 --> 4:11:57.960 about when I was in the war room with Jerry 4:11:58.040 --> 4:12:01.280 with the Roy Williams thing and he Frank Gilliaman Minnesota 4:12:01.320 --> 4:12:04.080 on one line and Carl Peterson on the other, and 4:12:04.240 --> 4:12:07.240 it was it's it's crazy how this guy gets people 4:12:07.280 --> 4:12:12.280 to do this green day on the clock tonight. We'll 4:12:12.360 --> 4:12:15.760 go on to do great things on the field, but 4:12:15.920 --> 4:12:21.440 they'll also make tremendous impacts in their communities. Nobody exemplified 4:12:21.560 --> 4:12:26.120 that more than Walter Payton. Named in his honor, the 4:12:26.240 --> 4:12:30.640 Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year Award, presented by Nationwide, 4:12:30.760 --> 4:12:35.440 is the most prestigious award a player can receive. Tonight, 4:12:36.240 --> 4:12:39.600 we are proud to have Andrew Whitworth the twenty twenty 4:12:39.680 --> 4:12:43.200 one Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year here with us. 4:12:47.920 --> 4:12:58.400 LS you. Thank you, Commissioner, Thank y'all whose house That's 4:12:58.400 --> 4:13:02.000 what I'm talking about too. I am very humbled and 4:13:02.120 --> 4:13:04.560 grateful to stand before he was the two thousand and 4:13:04.680 --> 4:13:08.040 twenty one Walter Payton, the NFL Man of the Year. 4:13:09.480 --> 4:13:15.080 I would love to think the NFL, the Peyton family 4:13:16.040 --> 4:13:21.080 and nationwide for everything they do to support players as 4:13:21.120 --> 4:13:25.480 we try to make positive impacts in our communities. When 4:13:25.520 --> 4:13:27.640 I look back over my time in the NFL, is 4:13:27.760 --> 4:13:31.200 going to make the peer over sixteen years. Okay, that's sup. 4:13:31.280 --> 4:13:33.480 Let's go back to us so quick. I'm sorry about that. Guys. 4:13:33.520 --> 4:13:35.520 I thought he's gonna make this selection brought us. Go ahead, 4:13:35.520 --> 4:13:38.280 continue with your Jerry story please, yeah. I mean it's 4:13:38.360 --> 4:13:41.800 it's funny because when in the draft, Jerry got Frank 4:13:41.880 --> 4:13:45.000 Gilliam and Carl Peterson to admit we were trying to 4:13:45.080 --> 4:13:48.360 trade back. And I've never seen a general manager do this, 4:13:48.520 --> 4:13:50.560 but this is the influence of Jerry Jones in a 4:13:50.600 --> 4:13:53.280 war room. He got Carl Peterson to admit who he 4:13:53.360 --> 4:13:55.560 was going to take, and he got Frank Gilly numid 4:13:55.600 --> 4:13:58.000 who he was going to take, and and Jerry had 4:13:58.040 --> 4:14:00.320 both phones. He put him down. He said, let's take 4:14:00.400 --> 4:14:02.640 Kansas Cy's deal. It's better. He's told me, Hey, Frank, 4:14:02.720 --> 4:14:05.280 I gotta deal with somebody. Bible hung up on him 4:14:05.720 --> 4:14:08.720 and like yeah, and so we traded back. But that 4:14:08.840 --> 4:14:10.840 was a crazy draft. You remember we almost went off 4:14:10.840 --> 4:14:13.840 the clock that it went down to like the last Yeah, 4:14:13.880 --> 4:14:16.080 and they yelled it, Stephen, they yield its tags all 4:14:16.400 --> 4:14:19.120 all that. But yeah, that Jerry has that ability when 4:14:19.120 --> 4:14:21.120 you get sometimes you get guys in the phone that 4:14:21.360 --> 4:14:22.760 it works out here. It looks like we got the 4:14:22.800 --> 4:14:29.240 pick for Green Babe. I think we go. In the 4:14:29.360 --> 4:14:33.680 twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select 4:14:34.880 --> 4:14:42.800 DeVante Wyatt defensive tackle Georgia so Ross Tucker, former NFL player, 4:14:43.040 --> 4:14:46.720 now does some analysts work. This was his player for 4:14:46.800 --> 4:14:49.760 the Cowboys. He said, he shocked all of us this morning. 4:14:50.000 --> 4:14:52.200 He came on. He said they should not take an 4:14:52.320 --> 4:14:55.680 offensive lineman because you're not going to get anyone, uh 4:14:55.960 --> 4:14:58.200 in a in a win now year. If you look 4:14:58.240 --> 4:14:59.640 at it as a win now year, and we're like, 4:14:59.640 --> 4:15:03.000 all right, smart guy, who would you take? He said? 4:15:03.080 --> 4:15:05.520 DeVante Wyatt would have been his his player. There's some 4:15:05.640 --> 4:15:08.560 questions about him. He's got some baggage. He's got some baggage, 4:15:08.560 --> 4:15:10.520 but he's a hell of a freaking player. Yeah, he's 4:15:10.560 --> 4:15:14.040 absolutely domestic violence, He's got a couple of things going 4:15:14.080 --> 4:15:17.000 on there. But you know what's funny. The Packers usually 4:15:17.080 --> 4:15:19.280 that's not their emo to do something like this, but 4:15:19.680 --> 4:15:22.200 you know, the value for the players is just too 4:15:22.280 --> 4:15:24.560 good right there. All right, we'll rejoin the radio side 4:15:24.640 --> 4:15:40.840 here in a second. I'm Seantreef alongside David Helm and 4:15:40.920 --> 4:15:44.680 Brian brought us Kyle Yeoman's and our Cowboys insider Bobby Bell. 4:15:44.800 --> 4:15:49.040 Tyler Smith is your newest offensive lineman, the local kid 4:15:49.160 --> 4:15:52.640 that went and played at Tulsa as a tackle already 4:15:52.720 --> 4:15:54.920 joined us here on the fan and the Dallas Cowboys 4:15:55.240 --> 4:15:57.400 Radio network, and let's give a little reset of what 4:15:57.480 --> 4:16:00.560 happened afterwards. A lot of Cowboy fans who were disappointed 4:16:00.680 --> 4:16:05.320 got even more furious when Linderbaum, the center from Iowa 4:16:05.360 --> 4:16:10.200 went to the Ravens at twenty five. Johnson, the d 4:16:10.440 --> 4:16:12.440 n from Florida State, who you guys were talking about, 4:16:12.440 --> 4:16:14.360 maybe we should have done a little more homework, but 4:16:14.440 --> 4:16:17.280 the Cowboys didn't take him to the Jets at twenty six. 4:16:17.640 --> 4:16:22.400 Devin Lloyd, the Utah inside linebacker goes to Jacksonville at 4:16:22.560 --> 4:16:26.760 number twenty seven. And then we just had the defensive 4:16:26.800 --> 4:16:30.360 tackle at a Georgia Wyatt to Green Bay at number 4:16:30.440 --> 4:16:32.520 twenty eight. If you were listening to the fan, this morning, 4:16:32.600 --> 4:16:36.080 this was Ross Tucker selection for the Cowboys. Instead he 4:16:36.120 --> 4:16:39.440 goes to the Packers with some character issues off the field, 4:16:39.760 --> 4:16:42.080 and now the New England Patriots are on the clock 4:16:42.360 --> 4:16:46.480 at number twenty nine. Thoughts on the final of the 4:16:46.560 --> 4:16:49.400 recent selections here, I just we joked about it. I 4:16:49.520 --> 4:16:52.280 think that's you know, there's always a snapshot of like 4:16:52.440 --> 4:16:54.600 this is what we're gonna remember. This is the Taco 4:16:54.680 --> 4:16:56.320 t J. Watt thing, Like this is what we're gonna 4:16:56.360 --> 4:16:58.400 talk about five years from now. We're gonna look at 4:16:58.480 --> 4:17:03.200 this and see Tyler's Smith followed by Linderbaum, Jermaine Johnson, 4:17:03.240 --> 4:17:06.120 and Devin Lloyd, three guys that have widely been considered 4:17:06.600 --> 4:17:09.240 top twenty type of talents all went in a row 4:17:09.840 --> 4:17:14.320 after Tyler Smith and whoever, yeah, whoever, Whoever's right about that? 4:17:14.800 --> 4:17:16.680 That'll be the talking point when we look back, Where 4:17:16.720 --> 4:17:19.200 did you guys have Johnson? Because defensive end was a 4:17:19.320 --> 4:17:21.080 need for this team is a need for this team. 4:17:21.120 --> 4:17:23.280 We think I thought he would be a top twenty pick. 4:17:23.440 --> 4:17:25.760 I didn't buy the hype that he was top Like, 4:17:26.040 --> 4:17:29.480 IM twenty five on my board, twenty nine on mine. Yeah, okay, 4:17:29.960 --> 4:17:32.080 so I mean it wasn't like it was a blinking 4:17:32.160 --> 4:17:34.280 red light at any point along the way. But I 4:17:34.360 --> 4:17:37.480 mean we had even heard whispers through Brian's circle that 4:17:37.640 --> 4:17:40.280 he was going to slip a little bit. He slipped 4:17:40.320 --> 4:17:42.760 to what was it twenty five or twenty six. Now 4:17:43.800 --> 4:17:46.600 that's not necessarily surprising. That's about where we thought he 4:17:46.640 --> 4:17:48.920 would go, maybe a little bit earlier, but not like 4:17:49.320 --> 4:17:52.000 a lock. Like I didn't buy the hype that he 4:17:52.120 --> 4:17:55.680 was a top ten guy so much, but because of 4:17:55.720 --> 4:17:57.800 the position that he plays, I would have thought, like 4:17:58.320 --> 4:18:01.960 between twelve and eighteen, my biggest surprise is George Carlofts 4:18:02.040 --> 4:18:05.000 right now still being on the board. I'm not if 4:18:06.680 --> 4:18:08.440 what Brier had to say. I mean, I go back 4:18:08.440 --> 4:18:10.080 to that, and I mean, like Brian, you've heard some 4:18:10.120 --> 4:18:11.600 of that that there's some people who just think like 4:18:11.840 --> 4:18:13.880 this is who he is, who he is. I mean, 4:18:13.960 --> 4:18:16.160 you can watch this this guy you talk about somebody 4:18:16.160 --> 4:18:18.160 will have a chip on his shoulder as a player, 4:18:18.640 --> 4:18:20.840 you know, and there's a lot of folks that clean myself, 4:18:20.840 --> 4:18:22.960 I had him as my seventeenth best player on my 4:18:23.080 --> 4:18:27.040 board and we're talking about George from Yeah, and you know, 4:18:27.240 --> 4:18:30.160 he mean he is a he is a he's a 4:18:30.240 --> 4:18:32.840 going Jesse when it comes to getting around the corner 4:18:32.920 --> 4:18:35.560 and making things happen. And I've never heard that it's 4:18:35.560 --> 4:18:39.240 an old old but I mean, like I say, the 4:18:39.320 --> 4:18:42.600 guy plays hard. I mean he plays really really hard, 4:18:42.720 --> 4:18:46.680 and you know he's he's a really good technician. There 4:18:46.720 --> 4:18:49.360 are guys, there are guys in this league that don't 4:18:49.400 --> 4:18:52.400 play with as good as technique as George Carloftens. That's 4:18:52.440 --> 4:18:55.880 the one thing that allows him to make sack and 4:18:56.000 --> 4:18:59.160 he gets in position and you know, he's a I 4:18:59.320 --> 4:19:01.200 like him as a finisher. I think the tape on 4:19:01.320 --> 4:19:03.040 him is really really good. But there's people that are 4:19:03.120 --> 4:19:05.680 kind of saying he is what he is, you know, 4:19:06.000 --> 4:19:09.200 and that you know, we'll see. I wouldn't bet against 4:19:09.240 --> 4:19:11.720 a guy like him. I really wouldn't. You talk about like, 4:19:12.280 --> 4:19:14.760 you know, a lot of guys don't have his technique 4:19:14.800 --> 4:19:17.720 and the ability that he's able to, you know, the 4:19:17.800 --> 4:19:20.880 way he's able to win as a technician, it's so rare, 4:19:21.000 --> 4:19:23.400 especially when you talk about like defensive ends coming out 4:19:23.440 --> 4:19:25.160 of college. A lot of these edge rushes when they 4:19:25.200 --> 4:19:26.400 come out of college. That's one of the most common 4:19:26.440 --> 4:19:28.600 things they hear from people around the NFL about rookie 4:19:28.640 --> 4:19:30.080 defensive ends. Is like they don't know how to use 4:19:30.120 --> 4:19:32.000 their hands. Yeah, they don't have any clue how to 4:19:32.040 --> 4:19:34.040 use them when they get here, and you gotta, you know, 4:19:34.160 --> 4:19:36.480 train that a little bit. That's not the case with Karloft, 4:19:36.520 --> 4:19:37.760 as he knows how to use his hands, he knows 4:19:37.800 --> 4:19:39.800 how to use his link. He's I mean, I really 4:19:39.840 --> 4:19:41.640 really like him. I just I kind of got the 4:19:41.720 --> 4:19:43.560 vibe that the Cowboys weren't nearly as high on him 4:19:43.600 --> 4:19:46.160 as we all thought he was. Yeah, are there any 4:19:46.240 --> 4:19:49.600 more glaring names left on y'all's board that you thought 4:19:49.600 --> 4:19:51.200 we're going to go in the first round? Besides him? 4:19:52.400 --> 4:19:57.600 Kobe Dean is one. There's no like Georgia now that, 4:19:58.040 --> 4:20:00.560 now that Jermaine Johnson's gone, I'm not looking at my 4:20:00.640 --> 4:20:03.840 list and thinking like there's no free fall. I thought 4:20:03.960 --> 4:20:05.960 Kyler Gordon would go in the first and we're getting 4:20:05.960 --> 4:20:07.680 close to the we're getting close to the end. So 4:20:07.760 --> 4:20:10.600 I played the game that everybody plays, where you write 4:20:10.640 --> 4:20:13.360 down the thirty two names you feel good about the 4:20:13.520 --> 4:20:17.480 names I've got left that I thought would go. Lewis, 4:20:17.600 --> 4:20:23.680 Seene Arnold, Dave, Dkatie, Logan Hall, Malik Willis, Desmond, Ritter, Kyler, Gordon, 4:20:24.560 --> 4:20:27.800 Malik willis still there here. The highest graded player that 4:20:28.000 --> 4:20:32.600 Dane has left that's not gone yet is Carloftis. And 4:20:32.720 --> 4:20:37.240 then it's Dax Hill, which we talked about that earlier today, 4:20:37.560 --> 4:20:40.040 how it sounded like Dax Hill might fall out of 4:20:40.080 --> 4:20:41.800 the first round. That's who the Patriots are gonna do 4:20:41.880 --> 4:20:45.000 here at twenty nine just might be the safety in 4:20:45.120 --> 4:20:49.560 the twenty twenty two NFL Draft. The New England Patriots 4:20:49.760 --> 4:20:56.560 like cool strange bro, Sorry bro, really I should not 4:20:56.640 --> 4:20:58.600 I shouldn't have laughed. Why they were? Well, will you 4:20:58.640 --> 4:21:01.760 explain the reactions? That's pretty far down the board for 4:21:01.800 --> 4:21:04.120 a first round player. John Schneider in the draft room, 4:21:04.200 --> 4:21:10.720 he he is, uh, offensive lineman, interior offensive lineman, so 4:21:10.800 --> 4:21:13.360 not even just offensive lineman, number seventeen on my board, 4:21:13.520 --> 4:21:17.880 seventeen what one interior offensive line? He's one sixty seven overall, 4:21:18.280 --> 4:21:20.720 Dane has him seventy three. So we're all in the 4:21:20.880 --> 4:21:24.120 entire draft. Wow, Belichick is an idiot. But you know 4:21:24.160 --> 4:21:26.680 what we all again, we all said Frederick third round player. 4:21:26.720 --> 4:21:28.880 So here we all upset over Tyler Smith. And look 4:21:28.960 --> 4:21:31.080 what Belichick just did. That should make you feel better 4:21:31.080 --> 4:21:32.840 about the drill. Look, there was a clear market in 4:21:32.880 --> 4:21:34.520 the first round for Tyler Smith. I don't know if 4:21:34.560 --> 4:21:37.320 there was a clear market Cole Strange. Yeah, oh, Brian, 4:21:37.640 --> 4:21:40.640 we're supposed to get back to your story with Tyler 4:21:40.760 --> 4:21:43.480 Smith in terms of Jerry maybe taking Wait did we 4:21:43.520 --> 4:21:46.880 already do that? Yeah? Oh you're fading. Drink some more 4:21:46.880 --> 4:21:51.920 oft an early morning. We started it on the radio 4:21:52.080 --> 4:21:53.840 and we finished it on the dot com. That's true, 4:21:54.040 --> 4:21:56.000 not that on that, um no, But I mean like 4:21:57.200 --> 4:21:59.840 he Jerry's got an amazing way with words. So like 4:22:00.040 --> 4:22:03.520 basically we think he bullied the Titans into admitting that 4:22:03.600 --> 4:22:06.400 they won in Tyler Smith. Yeah, or maybe not bullied. 4:22:06.480 --> 4:22:09.120 He he coerced them into admitting it, admitting and then 4:22:09.440 --> 4:22:11.520 I think and then High I think you made the point. 4:22:11.600 --> 4:22:14.160 That's why there there was laughter in the war room 4:22:14.160 --> 4:22:16.000 because they were like, a nice try. You were coming 4:22:16.080 --> 4:22:19.120 up for our guy. It ain't happening. So Kansas City's 4:22:19.160 --> 4:22:22.760 not wasting any time. Good let's get this thing over with. 4:22:22.880 --> 4:22:24.480 Let's get to the press conference. We can get out 4:22:24.520 --> 4:22:26.640 of here before eleven o'clock. Here is Roger Goodell with 4:22:26.680 --> 4:22:32.280 the Chiefs pick in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft 4:22:33.440 --> 4:22:41.440 the Kansas City Chiefs like George Carloftso you should have 4:22:41.520 --> 4:22:44.240 seen brought us his face just then the rich get richer. 4:22:44.400 --> 4:22:47.600 What do you think, Brian, Oh No, I mean, that's 4:22:47.640 --> 4:22:51.840 what I'm saying. I think there's some I'm disappointed. I'm 4:22:51.880 --> 4:22:54.360 not disappointed that I had him where he where he is. 4:22:54.760 --> 4:22:58.880 I just I'm disappointed that that maybe some other teams 4:22:58.960 --> 4:23:01.240 didn't see it the way I did. And I mean 4:23:01.360 --> 4:23:04.120 that sounds weird to say that way, but I kind 4:23:04.160 --> 4:23:06.920 of felt like this guy was like the sixteenth best 4:23:06.960 --> 4:23:09.600 player on the board. I really did. I believe that. 4:23:10.080 --> 4:23:12.760 I'm really there's another team that I think drafts pretty 4:23:12.800 --> 4:23:15.840 well that sees value in players. So when you make 4:23:15.880 --> 4:23:18.240 a miss like that, you know, when you feel like 4:23:18.280 --> 4:23:19.840 you should have had a guy higher, or you had 4:23:19.840 --> 4:23:21.680 a guy high, and then somebody picks him, you're kind 4:23:21.680 --> 4:23:24.640 of like, Okay, maybe I'm not totally off base with 4:23:24.720 --> 4:23:28.200 some of these cats. All right, So Cincinnati, the defending 4:23:28.240 --> 4:23:31.800 AFC champs, are on the clock, and then it's gonna 4:23:31.800 --> 4:23:34.280 be the Minnesota Vikings. I'm also gonna have to get 4:23:34.320 --> 4:23:37.040 you guys to prepare us for Day two in terms 4:23:37.200 --> 4:23:42.640 of positions that are left over. Cowboy targets best players 4:23:43.080 --> 4:23:46.360 on the board. So we'll set all that up and 4:23:46.520 --> 4:23:48.320 we'll keep it here. Or what do you want to do, Timmy, 4:23:48.720 --> 4:23:51.160 So we'll go ahead and keep it here with Cincinnati 4:23:51.240 --> 4:23:55.640 after the Kansas City Chiefs, go with George Carr Laftis 4:23:56.600 --> 4:23:59.920 and Tyler Smith as your newest Dallas Cowboy. You talk 4:24:00.000 --> 4:24:01.960 to the people over at Exos where he trained, who's 4:24:01.960 --> 4:24:03.720 over here in Fresco, and you just ask them, Like 4:24:04.040 --> 4:24:06.480 I pulled a few people over there earlier today and 4:24:06.560 --> 4:24:08.760 I was like, Hey, give me the standout guys, like 4:24:08.880 --> 4:24:11.800 the standout character and like hard work guys. And I 4:24:11.880 --> 4:24:14.920 had three different people over there telling me like karloftas Karloftascar, 4:24:15.040 --> 4:24:17.200 like that dude's a worker. It's like he's being punished 4:24:17.240 --> 4:24:20.840 for being too boring, right, he's too solid. He's just well, 4:24:21.080 --> 4:24:23.640 I just mind my notes. I mean, I will say this, 4:24:24.120 --> 4:24:25.920 I am impressed with the way this guy rushed as 4:24:25.920 --> 4:24:28.200 a passer due to his technique, with the way he plays. 4:24:28.680 --> 4:24:31.040 This guy understands how to use his pass rush moves 4:24:31.080 --> 4:24:33.120 along the way. It's just not rush up the field 4:24:33.160 --> 4:24:36.400 and hope for the best it's a swat, swim, rip pull. 4:24:36.800 --> 4:24:38.920 He's going to do something in order to free himself 4:24:38.960 --> 4:24:41.040 in the blocker. He's got quickness, he's got a burst. 4:24:41.480 --> 4:24:43.480 He could get the corner. He knows where to rush. 4:24:43.520 --> 4:24:46.000 I don't see him running past the quarterback and trying 4:24:46.040 --> 4:24:48.600 to reach back. But this guy is man. He could 4:24:48.600 --> 4:24:50.640 get pressure. And there's plays with a little bit of 4:24:50.680 --> 4:24:53.240 a burst. But there's people that kind of feel like, well, 4:24:53.280 --> 4:24:55.640 that's just who he is. But I mean, there's a 4:24:55.720 --> 4:24:58.400 lot of really, really good traits about this guy. I 4:24:58.480 --> 4:25:00.400 think the learning curve for him is going to be 4:25:00.560 --> 4:25:04.440 really really small because of how well he plays with technique. 4:25:04.720 --> 4:25:07.960 I adore it when Brian reads his report verbatim, like 4:25:08.080 --> 4:25:10.520 that's how you know that he's invested in this. Yeah, 4:25:10.560 --> 4:25:13.240 it's fantastic. When he's a power rusher too, Like he's 4:25:13.280 --> 4:25:16.560 got extra strength up on the top half that allows 4:25:16.680 --> 4:25:18.720 him to or allowed him in the big ten to 4:25:18.840 --> 4:25:21.480 make an impact. I think he's as ready of an 4:25:21.600 --> 4:25:23.920 NFL pass rusher as even some of the top guys 4:25:23.960 --> 4:25:27.000 that were taking tonight. Does it mean anything at all 4:25:27.120 --> 4:25:29.160 that when do they usually roll out of the war room. 4:25:29.200 --> 4:25:32.040 Doesn't mean anything that they're still in there. A lot 4:25:32.080 --> 4:25:34.680 of times you'll hang out and make sure nobody's calling, okay, 4:25:35.160 --> 4:25:36.480 just because a lot of times I've seen them make 4:25:36.520 --> 4:25:39.640 the pick in his roll and it's like, uh, any 4:25:39.800 --> 4:25:42.080 is anyone calling the room? Sometimes they just you know, 4:25:42.560 --> 4:25:44.680 it's like it's bail three more picks and they're like 4:25:45.240 --> 4:25:48.240 some catfish. Oh is that the post draft meal? I 4:25:48.280 --> 4:25:53.280 don't think it was. It was it was, Yeah, they 4:25:53.320 --> 4:25:56.240 serve catfish before catfish for the pre draft dinner. Yeah, 4:25:56.360 --> 4:25:58.640 oh nice. We started too soon for me to get 4:25:58.680 --> 4:26:01.840 in the unfortunate. Well, we got Papa Johnson. We did. 4:26:02.720 --> 4:26:05.880 We wanted very good stuff crusted as well. Who were 4:26:05.920 --> 4:26:08.800 my who were my Cincinnati Benghi's gonna draft here? Yeah, 4:26:08.840 --> 4:26:11.680 you're a big time fan my fighting Joe Burrows. Well 4:26:11.840 --> 4:26:15.040 they don't need a right tackle. Who's the red flat guy? Pickins? 4:26:15.480 --> 4:26:18.960 H Yeah? Pickins go get go get a corner. Kyler 4:26:19.040 --> 4:26:21.520 Gordon and Andrew Booth are both sitting there. Did they 4:26:21.640 --> 4:26:24.120 fix all of their offensive line? Even though they took 4:26:24.440 --> 4:26:27.560 Leo Collins? They got Lyle Collins and they signed they 4:26:27.600 --> 4:26:30.000 signed the guard out of Tampa and free agency. I 4:26:30.120 --> 4:26:33.160 think they could use another offensive Lineman, but I think 4:26:33.200 --> 4:26:35.680 all of the plausible ones are gone. Of course, that 4:26:35.760 --> 4:26:39.840 didn't stop Bill Belichick's I saw a corner mocked there. Yeah, 4:26:39.880 --> 4:26:42.400 the Hitler Gordon would be one. They have Cheetoh obviously, 4:26:42.600 --> 4:26:45.520 but they have a need on across the field for 4:26:45.720 --> 4:26:48.360 another cornerback, maybe like an Andrew Booth or a Roger 4:26:48.520 --> 4:26:50.960 McCreary would be interesting. This is a team that doesn't 4:26:51.000 --> 4:26:54.120 care about character, by the way, so if you if 4:26:54.160 --> 4:26:58.000 you have somebody on that board that they might uh, 4:26:58.640 --> 4:27:00.920 they always like big school guy two. I'm trying of 4:27:00.920 --> 4:27:03.520 the kind of things. Yeah, Georgia, they liked it. They 4:27:03.600 --> 4:27:06.200 liked they like we like big ten guys too. You're 4:27:06.240 --> 4:27:08.600 trying to manifest this and I don't appreciate it. Maybe 4:27:08.600 --> 4:27:10.760 I want them to fall. Maybe they draft ckx Hill 4:27:10.800 --> 4:27:12.640 so they don't have to pay Jesse Bates. Well that's 4:27:12.760 --> 4:27:15.680 that that could be. I mean traditionally the Brown family 4:27:15.760 --> 4:27:18.080 their Ohio state family. But I don't know if they 4:27:18.120 --> 4:27:21.000 would take a Michigan kid like that. But you know, 4:27:21.200 --> 4:27:24.160 they really don't care. It's a small, small scann those 4:27:24.200 --> 4:27:27.440 coaches are gonna make this pick. So I wouldn't be 4:27:27.560 --> 4:27:31.080 surprised if you know, like we'll see who are just 4:27:31.280 --> 4:27:34.920 from from maybe would they take they take a tackle again? 4:27:35.000 --> 4:27:37.520 I know they've added some guys and stuff like that, Raymond. 4:27:37.720 --> 4:27:40.560 I mean, I'm just saying I think they have Cannard 4:27:40.760 --> 4:27:43.360 is Kentucky, which is right across the way from them. 4:27:43.440 --> 4:27:46.400 They have they have Jonah Williams. Yeah, they and they 4:27:46.480 --> 4:27:48.320 have Lyle. I don't feel like they don't really need 4:27:48.360 --> 4:27:50.880 a tackle and guard inside help maybe the center or 4:27:50.960 --> 4:27:52.440 something like that. I think they would. I think they 4:27:52.480 --> 4:27:54.360 would have loved to have linder bomb fall there, but 4:27:54.480 --> 4:27:57.360 you didn't, obviously from my own entertainment. Who are the 4:27:57.440 --> 4:28:00.960 biggest red flag guys in this whole draft, Bobby, I 4:28:01.040 --> 4:28:03.400 mean the ones that were talked about and we're for 4:28:03.720 --> 4:28:07.280 wildly different reasons where Packers just took We're two Georgia kids. 4:28:07.320 --> 4:28:10.840 It was George Pickens and DeVante Wyatt. Yeah yeah. Pickens 4:28:10.920 --> 4:28:14.760 was about maturity. It sounded like and you know, needs 4:28:14.760 --> 4:28:16.920 to kind of grow up, the opposite of Whyatt was 4:28:17.480 --> 4:28:22.120 had you know, legal issues and speaking of that, Uh, 4:28:23.240 --> 4:28:28.480 we're done worrying about Kelvin Joseph's availability. I didn't say that, Yeah, 4:28:29.160 --> 4:28:31.720 I don't. I don't know what to make of that. 4:28:31.920 --> 4:28:34.120 I mean, I mean it sounds like it's it's been 4:28:34.200 --> 4:28:36.800 put to bed. I was told not to just to 4:28:36.960 --> 4:28:39.280 kind of let it go and then we'll see what happens. 4:28:39.400 --> 4:28:41.520 Kind of a thing. Okay, I'm just gonna keep my 4:28:41.680 --> 4:28:44.200 radar up for the league because that's what I mean. Yeah, 4:28:44.480 --> 4:28:46.440 but how about but how about how do we feel 4:28:46.440 --> 4:28:49.960 a corner? Well, they tried to add one last year 4:28:50.560 --> 4:28:52.800 with the starters they had. They mean, they were they 4:28:52.840 --> 4:28:55.400 were like they were looking for one't the if the situation, 4:28:55.800 --> 4:28:58.360 if the situation presents itself, go for it. But like 4:28:58.520 --> 4:29:01.480 they don't. They don't need that that desperately that they 4:29:01.560 --> 4:29:04.320 need to make something happen. I mean, if somehow Kyler 4:29:04.400 --> 4:29:07.040 Gordon keeps falling, if Kyler Gordon was around them, they would, 4:29:07.080 --> 4:29:09.840 I think, because if a guy that's not supposed to 4:29:09.920 --> 4:29:11.840 be there wind's up there, go for it. Yeah. But 4:29:11.920 --> 4:29:14.120 I'm only asking that because I've seen the corners mocked 4:29:14.160 --> 4:29:17.800 to Since and corners mocked to Minnesota. Who's gonna have 4:29:17.880 --> 4:29:20.040 the final pick of the first round right after this, 4:29:21.000 --> 4:29:23.760 So we'll see what happens. I mean, just Logan Hall 4:29:23.800 --> 4:29:27.040 wouldn't go here right Defensive tackle he could Houston. I 4:29:27.080 --> 4:29:28.800 mean this, I don't know, he's been mocked in the 4:29:28.840 --> 4:29:31.240 back end of the FIRS. What I'm saying, I mean, 4:29:31.800 --> 4:29:34.360 you know, kind of thinking that would be particularly the 4:29:34.960 --> 4:29:37.800 right around. Like before we really zeroed in on Tyler Smith, 4:29:37.840 --> 4:29:39.640 I wanted to bring him up and be like, could 4:29:39.680 --> 4:29:42.920 they like Logan Hall? But they drafted Tyler instead. They 4:29:42.960 --> 4:29:44.920 do like him. They like him as a three technique, 4:29:45.000 --> 4:29:47.440 which he's kind of one of those tweeterers that you 4:29:47.520 --> 4:29:49.840 don't really know exactly what you know. The Cowboys were 4:29:49.880 --> 4:29:52.080 looking at Logan Hall as a three tech. That's myself 4:29:52.280 --> 4:29:54.840 where they like him and where they've had him slotted 4:29:54.880 --> 4:29:58.120 in through the draft process. So Cowboys tamar gonna pick 4:29:58.280 --> 4:30:02.200 at fifty six eighty eight. They're gonna have one pick 4:30:02.240 --> 4:30:07.440 in the fourth, four picks in the fifth, and a six. Yeah, 4:30:07.520 --> 4:30:09.720 that's the rest of the draft. Come back on Saturday, Sean, 4:30:09.880 --> 4:30:13.720 I don't think so the whole time. Roger Goodell with 4:30:13.920 --> 4:30:18.760 the Bengals selection, no more bow ties for me. Appreciate you. 4:30:18.840 --> 4:30:24.040 Where in the twenty twenty two NFL Draft, the AFC 4:30:24.320 --> 4:30:31.160 champion Cincinnati Bengal I Bengals Deckson Hill. Here we go look, 4:30:31.280 --> 4:30:34.160 see the Bengals had to pick somebody Brian loved. You 4:30:34.240 --> 4:30:36.120 know what, that's my favorite team in the league. Right, 4:30:37.280 --> 4:30:39.840 that's a byou Bengal. You know, I mentioned that it's 4:30:39.880 --> 4:30:43.280 funny because the Brown family really their father, the founder 4:30:43.360 --> 4:30:46.440 of the Bengals, coached at Ohio State, and I just 4:30:46.640 --> 4:30:49.040 wondered if they were ever gonna take a Michigan man 4:30:49.240 --> 4:30:51.640 like that. But they did. Man, that's a great that's 4:30:51.680 --> 4:30:53.640 a great, you know, great value for a player. Right. 4:30:53.680 --> 4:30:56.440 That was my sixteenth best player on the board for sure. 4:30:56.640 --> 4:31:00.320 Really appreciate that top twenty pick at thirty one. Yeah, good, 4:31:00.480 --> 4:31:03.760 good pick. Immediately going to come in and play. I'll 4:31:03.800 --> 4:31:05.960 give my scouting report as I'm pulling it. Yeah, go ahead. 4:31:06.240 --> 4:31:09.360 Extreme athleticism, flexibility to play over the top end in 4:31:09.480 --> 4:31:12.400 the box. He has instincts in quick trigger where he 4:31:12.520 --> 4:31:14.920 doesn't waste a whole lot of steps getting to the ball. 4:31:15.000 --> 4:31:17.240 He sees a little, sees a lot as one of 4:31:17.280 --> 4:31:20.440 those terms you hear from safeties. Doesn't look like he's 4:31:20.920 --> 4:31:24.640 he's not changed by the not phased by change of direction. 4:31:24.880 --> 4:31:27.160 And modern NFL has found a nice role for guys 4:31:27.240 --> 4:31:29.000 like him, and I think He's going to do a 4:31:29.280 --> 4:31:31.800 very a good thing on the back end of that 4:31:31.920 --> 4:31:35.400 Cincinnati defense. Like Dave just said, to kind of help 4:31:35.440 --> 4:31:37.960 out with some contracts. This guy plays with the toughness 4:31:38.040 --> 4:31:40.240 and edge to him. He's quick to read the route, 4:31:40.240 --> 4:31:43.560 so fight to get in position. He tackles really well. 4:31:43.720 --> 4:31:46.760 Ball skills are there. Kyle's got him right there. I 4:31:47.040 --> 4:31:48.760 think that when you watch him play, this guy does 4:31:48.800 --> 4:31:51.480 a really nice job of driving on the play and 4:31:51.680 --> 4:31:54.560 getting you know, getting himself in position to make that play. 4:31:54.760 --> 4:31:58.040 He will knock balls down and play offhand and not 4:31:58.320 --> 4:32:01.000 like wrap his arm around the back of the receiver 4:32:01.560 --> 4:32:04.400 to get penalties and things like that. I mean, I 4:32:04.480 --> 4:32:06.560 said in my final line, I like his ability. He 4:32:06.720 --> 4:32:09.480 plays smart and he finished his plays big, big time 4:32:09.520 --> 4:32:11.840 player in my book, Minnesota Vikings, they're not going to 4:32:11.920 --> 4:32:14.440 waste much time to pick is already in for them. 4:32:15.160 --> 4:32:18.080 And then after that we will give you a look 4:32:18.560 --> 4:32:21.480 for tomorrow and the preview with Cowboys on the clock, 4:32:21.600 --> 4:32:24.160 best players left on the board. And this is what 4:32:24.240 --> 4:32:27.600 everyone is talking about with this draft is tomorrow really 4:32:27.800 --> 4:32:31.640 and rounds you know, three through five, which of course 4:32:31.760 --> 4:32:34.680 is going to take place on Sunday. Excuse me Saturday 4:32:34.840 --> 4:32:38.160 as well, Sean Trefkyle Yoman's, David Hellman, Brian brought us 4:32:38.320 --> 4:32:41.800 and Bobby Belt here on Dallas Cowboys do they're doing 4:32:41.880 --> 4:32:45.120 this skull chant or whatever it is in Minnesota for 4:32:45.200 --> 4:32:48.720 pick thirty two. They're all standing up doing this chant 4:32:48.880 --> 4:32:52.800 here getting ready to close out the draft. So there 4:32:52.840 --> 4:32:55.560 you go. They have a new leadership there. Mike Zimmer 4:32:56.040 --> 4:32:58.920 who was a Cowboy defensive coordinator candidate that was brought up. 4:32:59.440 --> 4:33:01.480 He's being play So you had a new head coach 4:33:01.880 --> 4:33:04.680 in there. Um and there was some Kellen Moore rumors 4:33:04.840 --> 4:33:08.480 connected to Minnesota. So another year for Kirk Cousins to 4:33:08.600 --> 4:33:11.600 get made fun of with the with the Vikings to 4:33:11.680 --> 4:33:13.880 see what they can do. Unless this is Malik Willis 4:33:15.000 --> 4:33:17.160 on the back end, get that fifth year option and 4:33:17.280 --> 4:33:20.840 make something interesting. I know that's they They need somebody 4:33:20.880 --> 4:33:24.480 in the secondary. I don't know. Maybe this will be Gordon, 4:33:24.600 --> 4:33:27.239 maybe it'll be Booth. It feels like about three lifetimes 4:33:27.280 --> 4:33:29.800 ago that Kellen Moore was tied to the Vikings job, 4:33:29.880 --> 4:33:33.200 Like I completely forgot that happen. I'm trying and I'm 4:33:33.240 --> 4:33:36.000 looking for Malik Willis teams now that Kyle said that 4:33:36.200 --> 4:33:38.960 Tampa Bay is going to start tomorrow, by the way, 4:33:39.280 --> 4:33:43.000 so the Bucks will start then Minnesota, so they have 4:33:43.240 --> 4:33:45.560 two of the next three picks here, they're gonna pick here, 4:33:45.680 --> 4:33:50.040 then Tampa, then the Vikings pick second tomorrow, then Tennessee, 4:33:50.720 --> 4:33:54.840 the New York Giants, the Houston Texans sitting there with others. 4:33:55.320 --> 4:33:57.960 If I hear any more, Davis Mills love that they're 4:33:58.000 --> 4:33:59.600 trying to sell this. I was a big fan of 4:33:59.680 --> 4:34:03.160 his year. You were, I was like, well, well, like, well, no, 4:34:03.360 --> 4:34:05.520 I'm coming out of coming out of school. Okay, I'll 4:34:05.520 --> 4:34:08.120 put it. I'm not trying to convince you that he's good. 4:34:08.320 --> 4:34:11.440 But if I were the Texans, I would rather stink 4:34:11.560 --> 4:34:13.239 this year and have a better shot at a better 4:34:13.360 --> 4:34:16.160 quarterback and next year's draft than draft a guy. Now, okay, 4:34:17.280 --> 4:34:19.720 well there goes my insult towards the Texans. You guys 4:34:19.759 --> 4:34:22.120 just killed it. Me and Brian were higher on him, 4:34:22.160 --> 4:34:27.320 I think than most people. Is terrible problem, the terrible 4:34:27.360 --> 4:34:30.239 thank you, you're welcome. We're all way too level headed. 4:34:31.320 --> 4:34:33.280 I don't know about that. Outside of like the top 4:34:33.360 --> 4:34:36.559 five quarterbacks like Lawrence and Fields and Wilson and Lance 4:34:36.640 --> 4:34:38.760 and Jones. Last year, the guys that win the top fifteen. 4:34:38.880 --> 4:34:42.120 Mills was my next guy up Tennessee. Tennessee could want 4:34:42.120 --> 4:34:45.960 a quarterback tomorrow. The Giants, maybe the Seahawks picked twice 4:34:46.080 --> 4:34:51.960 in the forties m back to back, and then Detroit's 4:34:52.000 --> 4:34:55.280 still hanging there at forty six. If Detroit could make 4:34:55.360 --> 4:34:58.240 two picks in the first round and still get a 4:34:58.320 --> 4:35:00.600 quarterback in the second round, that they'd be pretty happy. 4:35:00.680 --> 4:35:05.400 And just to summarize NFC eastwise, uh, we're not feeling 4:35:05.640 --> 4:35:08.280 very good about what the Giants and the Eagles did 4:35:08.520 --> 4:35:11.440 and fine with the commanders, correct, is that the consensus 4:35:11.520 --> 4:35:14.160 in the room. I think Johan Dotson's a good player. Yeah, 4:35:14.400 --> 4:35:16.640 to the commanders, I don't think we should necessarily write 4:35:16.720 --> 4:35:19.759 him off immediately, But in comparison, I'm not writing I'm 4:35:19.800 --> 4:35:22.240 not writing him off. I don't think the Commanders are 4:35:22.280 --> 4:35:25.760 significantly better after that pick, whereas after what Philly and 4:35:25.800 --> 4:35:28.080 New York have done tonight, I think and the Giants 4:35:28.160 --> 4:35:32.800 just to reset, got Thibadeau, got Evan Neil, and then 4:35:32.919 --> 4:35:37.560 the Eagles got Jordan Davis and a J. Brown. Yeah, man, 4:35:37.919 --> 4:35:40.200 I mean, I mean when you talk about Washington, I 4:35:40.320 --> 4:35:42.280 was going back to that well, we got Roger Goodell 4:35:42.320 --> 4:35:44.000 coming to the podiums. All right, let's go ahead and 4:35:44.440 --> 4:35:48.040 complete this first round with the Viking selection at thirty two. 4:35:48.200 --> 4:35:54.120 What's Roger wearing around his neck? That's a tie. Oh No, 4:36:00.000 --> 4:36:06.560 Minnesota Viking select Lewis Scene, safety defensive back Georgia. So 4:36:06.640 --> 4:36:09.200 we had one last picture they run on safeties at 4:36:09.240 --> 4:36:11.360 the end of the first round. That all right, let's 4:36:11.400 --> 4:36:15.360 come back and reset. We'll get these guys winners losers. 4:36:15.600 --> 4:36:17.560 Day two preview had us a set up for the 4:36:17.600 --> 4:36:22.560 Cowboys tomorrow and then of course the press conference upstairs 4:36:22.840 --> 4:36:25.800 with Jerry, Stephen and McCarthy explaining why they went with 4:36:26.120 --> 4:36:30.000 Tyler Smith, the newest Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman. This is 4:36:30.040 --> 4:36:32.560 the twenty twenty two NFL Draft on one oh five 4:36:32.640 --> 4:36:41.640 through the fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Lewis 4:36:41.759 --> 4:36:46.000 Scene is the fifth member of that Georgia defense, taken 4:36:46.040 --> 4:36:48.520 in the first round thirty first best player. How about that, 4:36:51.120 --> 4:36:53.440 like a captain of that defense is still sitting there 4:36:53.480 --> 4:36:57.320 for tomorrow. Yes, it is, wow, because he's five eleven four. Yeah, 4:36:57.440 --> 4:36:59.800 he's gonna make somebody look smart as hell. Shout out 4:36:59.840 --> 4:37:03.640 to uh our buddy Dane Brugler twenty eight of his 4:37:03.759 --> 4:37:07.240 top thirty two went tonight. It's pretty good at his job, 4:37:07.280 --> 4:37:11.320 fellas he is. Nobody can predict Cole Strange and Lewis 4:37:11.680 --> 4:37:15.520 was thirty three for him. Yeah, what was the random 4:37:15.759 --> 4:37:19.280 side note question the size difference, because I'm gonna have 4:37:19.320 --> 4:37:21.160 to answer this to a lot of listeners tomorrow with 4:37:21.360 --> 4:37:27.920 Frederick and Linderbaum. Oh it wasn't was three twelve. I 4:37:28.000 --> 4:37:31.200 think three twelve and he was he was what an 4:37:31.240 --> 4:37:34.879 inch and a half? I think he was six zero 4:37:35.000 --> 4:37:37.160 three three if I remember that would be sixty three. 4:37:37.400 --> 4:37:40.640 Pro Football Reference puts him at six four three twenty. 4:37:40.720 --> 4:37:47.480 Obviously that's not ninety six. Okay, yeah, six two two 4:37:47.560 --> 4:37:50.440 ninety six. I mean it's a significant size difference, but 4:37:50.560 --> 4:37:53.320 not as much as you would necessarily thin. Arms were 4:37:53.360 --> 4:37:55.800 two inches longer, his height was two inches more, he 4:37:55.960 --> 4:38:00.040 was fifteen pounds heavier. I'm just googling Tyler Smith with 4:38:00.120 --> 4:38:02.720 a lot of this and the headlines. I mean, it 4:38:03.840 --> 4:38:06.560 may not be funny to you listening, but mel Kiper's 4:38:06.600 --> 4:38:11.280 final mock causes fan freak out some different analysts on Twitter. 4:38:11.600 --> 4:38:15.360 If they ever did this, I'm done. Uh if they 4:38:15.480 --> 4:38:18.400 draft him I'm not gonna put lipstick on this pig. 4:38:19.400 --> 4:38:22.600 I'll submit my retirement papers if they do this. The 4:38:22.720 --> 4:38:25.960 Cowboy mascot rowdy with his head down. So it's just 4:38:26.040 --> 4:38:29.840 funny seeing some of this reaction to Kuiper's more. We're 4:38:29.880 --> 4:38:32.920 all colleagues. We share information between each other, like we 4:38:33.120 --> 4:38:36.120 had we heard his name. Yep, sure they don't. We 4:38:36.200 --> 4:38:38.360 don't know for sure what that means. And I remember 4:38:38.440 --> 4:38:41.440 talking to Bobby. I was like, I'm not I'm not 4:38:41.520 --> 4:38:43.760 saying he's a good or bad player. I am saying 4:38:43.960 --> 4:38:47.000 if he's the pick, that will be the rest. That'll 4:38:47.000 --> 4:38:49.720 be what happens. How hard is it brought us? Obviously, 4:38:49.800 --> 4:38:54.880 has these really detailed reports judging offensive lineman like they've 4:38:54.919 --> 4:38:56.560 been pretty good. They've been pretty good at in the 4:38:56.600 --> 4:38:59.040 first round. I know people are people are getting on 4:38:59.160 --> 4:39:02.920 my ass about it right now. Pressure go for the 4:39:02.960 --> 4:39:06.680 pressure that the press conference is on. Here are the 4:39:06.759 --> 4:39:09.240 Cowboys explaining the pick. We called it a good night. 4:39:10.520 --> 4:39:14.360 We got a player that we thought had as much 4:39:14.480 --> 4:39:19.520 upside as anybody that was on the board, and we 4:39:19.720 --> 4:39:27.079 were very very sensitive about the fact that we were 4:39:27.080 --> 4:39:36.800 adding depth and adding real we think insurance due to 4:39:37.000 --> 4:39:41.040 the fact that our makeup of our offensive line and 4:39:41.120 --> 4:39:45.120 our starters, we have to take into consideration availability of 4:39:45.200 --> 4:39:48.280 our starters. We think we got a player here that 4:39:48.440 --> 4:39:51.040 not only has the ability to be a starter, but 4:39:51.200 --> 4:39:56.200 has position flex and so we were very fortunate with 4:39:56.360 --> 4:39:58.600 the twenty fourth pick to get the sixteenth player in 4:39:58.640 --> 4:40:02.240 the drag. So I'll start that off with that and 4:40:02.320 --> 4:40:06.440 then question Stephen. You've got one statement before they ask questions. 4:40:06.640 --> 4:40:09.280 I'll take questions. Okay, good, and coach you'll talk to 4:40:09.360 --> 4:40:11.680 you about the if it it's in with the team. 4:40:11.880 --> 4:40:14.960 You guys got sixteen places, so you do not consider 4:40:15.000 --> 4:40:16.879 moving up at all because a lot of activity earlier. 4:40:16.880 --> 4:40:18.120 I don't know if you guys got to end see 4:40:18.160 --> 4:40:20.840 at all with so much so many trades today and 4:40:20.960 --> 4:40:24.880 you shall even consider moving up. We didn't have a 4:40:25.080 --> 4:40:31.480 player that we thought would at as it turns out 4:40:31.560 --> 4:40:35.680 where they were taken that was worth what we estimated 4:40:36.280 --> 4:40:38.400 would be what we'd have to pay to get up 4:40:38.560 --> 4:40:41.640 if if you had to pay, so we didn't spend 4:40:41.800 --> 4:40:46.840 a lot of time. If somebody got closer to us 4:40:47.200 --> 4:40:52.760 and we're dropping, then we certainly might consider that maneuvering 4:40:52.880 --> 4:40:54.800 up and down, And that's the way the board fell 4:40:54.840 --> 4:40:57.600 in there to day, we had three trades right at 4:40:57.640 --> 4:41:01.640 the buzzer on the last three picks. We had three calls. 4:41:01.680 --> 4:41:04.560 Stephen have had exactly, but we had three calls and 4:41:04.840 --> 4:41:08.120 entertained trading on at least two or maybe three of 4:41:08.200 --> 4:41:13.480 the last three picks. Trade back trade, Yeah, Ken Smith 4:41:13.520 --> 4:41:15.920 play guard. Is that we talked about position facts. We 4:41:16.000 --> 4:41:18.919 got to come in and completed guard. Yeah, Tyler will 4:41:18.960 --> 4:41:21.760 come in and he will have position flex and really 4:41:21.800 --> 4:41:23.560 be a left side player. So I'm an opportunity to 4:41:24.040 --> 4:41:26.960 rep both at the left guard in the left tackle position. 4:41:27.000 --> 4:41:29.759 That's where we will start them. Um. Real excited about 4:41:29.800 --> 4:41:32.120 what he he brings, you know, as far as his 4:41:32.200 --> 4:41:34.280 play style, and I think he's a really good fit 4:41:34.360 --> 4:41:37.160 fit for our offensive line room. Excited about what's in 4:41:37.240 --> 4:41:41.360 front of him. But yes, he'll have opportunity for both 4:41:41.440 --> 4:41:43.520 left guard left All right, let's take you to the 4:41:43.600 --> 4:41:46.879 Dallas Cowboys press conference talking about Tyler Smith as their 4:41:46.960 --> 4:41:50.280 draft pick at number twenty four. The trades you look forward, 4:41:50.720 --> 4:41:53.320 what does Tyler have that man? That definitely I mean 4:41:53.360 --> 4:41:55.079 you look at the measurables, so you know, he definitely 4:41:55.120 --> 4:41:58.080 has the trades of play left tackle. But um, you 4:41:58.160 --> 4:42:01.640 know those are conversations. You have all these these prospects, 4:42:01.720 --> 4:42:04.840 and you know, particularly, I mean personally, have been around 4:42:05.200 --> 4:42:07.160 a number of those guys that have gone from tackle 4:42:07.280 --> 4:42:10.160 and have played inside it. So but um, I think 4:42:10.240 --> 4:42:13.440 Tyler clearly has the ability to play tackle, and you 4:42:13.520 --> 4:42:15.560 know that's we're going to start him more as a 4:42:15.640 --> 4:42:20.200 left side player. As far as is Repson and how 4:42:20.240 --> 4:42:23.440 we view him starting out this week that you expected 4:42:23.480 --> 4:42:25.960 to give fourteen to sixteen players first round grades. When 4:42:25.960 --> 4:42:28.079 you see who as your sixteen player? Did you get 4:42:28.160 --> 4:42:32.759 him a first round grade we knew we were going 4:42:32.840 --> 4:42:35.480 to have to take if we were going to take 4:42:35.600 --> 4:42:40.280 Did we give him a first round grade? We gave 4:42:40.400 --> 4:42:44.080 him a grade that we knew more than likely we 4:42:44.120 --> 4:42:48.280 would take in the first round. Now that's that's that's 4:42:48.320 --> 4:42:54.200 meetly Mouth. That's meetly Mouth. It is a misrepresentation to 4:42:54.360 --> 4:42:58.400 not call him a first round player. And we knew 4:42:58.560 --> 4:43:01.160 that we were going to have to take him in 4:43:01.360 --> 4:43:06.000 the first round if we got him, and so I 4:43:06.120 --> 4:43:08.719 think that's the really I do think that's the correct 4:43:09.000 --> 4:43:12.440 way to do it. We had obviously, we have several 4:43:12.520 --> 4:43:16.560 players here that don't have first round grades. That were 4:43:16.720 --> 4:43:20.400 taken ahead of our picks that we didn't have first 4:43:20.480 --> 4:43:23.560 round grade. SOO, so I think it's really fair and 4:43:23.680 --> 4:43:27.280 my anticipated and we anticipated this question. But I think 4:43:27.320 --> 4:43:29.480 it's fair for us to say that we graded him 4:43:29.520 --> 4:43:32.600 as a first round player concerned with some of the 4:43:32.720 --> 4:43:35.720 penalty problems that he had in college, getting some of 4:43:35.759 --> 4:43:38.120 the palty issues that is offensive playing the last year. 4:43:39.080 --> 4:43:41.800 I'm definitely aware, you know, of his performance last year, 4:43:41.840 --> 4:43:45.600 but I definitely are two separate topics of my view, 4:43:46.759 --> 4:43:51.400 you know, obviously playing at Tulsa and obviously our team 4:43:51.480 --> 4:43:55.200 last year. I really don't see any correlation to it. Um. 4:43:55.600 --> 4:43:57.760 You know, we need to focus on on penalties and 4:43:58.320 --> 4:44:01.840 we've taken those steps already in offseason program, you know, 4:44:01.919 --> 4:44:03.559 as far as an emphasis on the things we need 4:44:03.600 --> 4:44:05.480 to do better, I mean, particularly in the year. He's 4:44:05.480 --> 4:44:08.440 the fundamentals. Um. So you know Tyler will be part 4:44:08.440 --> 4:44:11.160 of that, you know, part of the program when he 4:44:11.240 --> 4:44:14.560 gets here, and UM, I don't have any concerns. Well 4:44:14.840 --> 4:44:17.440 we're studdy Tyler Smith. First, get on your radar, Like, 4:44:17.520 --> 4:44:20.200 can you remember the first time you saw him or 4:44:20.240 --> 4:44:21.840 when he caught your eye or just when that was 4:44:22.120 --> 4:44:24.280 it was during the season going through the process looking 4:44:24.280 --> 4:44:26.440 at you know, when you start talking about the things 4:44:26.520 --> 4:44:29.280 that are that that you're looking for in the draft, Um, 4:44:29.720 --> 4:44:31.320 you know, we're looking for good players. But when it 4:44:31.440 --> 4:44:33.080 came up when we were looking at offensive line, we 4:44:33.240 --> 4:44:35.720 talked about him in December, um, you know, and you 4:44:35.800 --> 4:44:38.560 got to notice him a little bit more. And you know, 4:44:38.720 --> 4:44:41.759 number one thing is there's a big athletic, physical man 4:44:41.880 --> 4:44:43.960 and that that's going to play in a big athletic 4:44:44.000 --> 4:44:46.400 physical league. And that's what we liked about him. Was 4:44:46.440 --> 4:44:49.640 it a Dallas take out? No? No, what did you 4:44:49.680 --> 4:44:52.760 guys see getting that private work out for you to say, okay, 4:44:52.919 --> 4:44:57.120 this is the first round great on in the sense, well, 4:44:57.200 --> 4:44:58.760 you look for the traits and then you look for 4:44:58.840 --> 4:45:02.000 the ability on tape and he showed those. You know, 4:45:02.360 --> 4:45:05.280 he was a first round type player and you know, 4:45:05.520 --> 4:45:08.440 capable of competing in his league and you know, we 4:45:08.520 --> 4:45:11.480 were excited about that and him being local and you know, 4:45:11.560 --> 4:45:14.920 the temperament that he plays with and being young in 4:45:15.040 --> 4:45:17.120 the growth and the upside and the potential that's also 4:45:17.200 --> 4:45:21.280 important too, So did John Brady Manley. It just not 4:45:21.400 --> 4:45:23.240 equal to the scoptar that work for you to bring 4:45:23.280 --> 4:45:25.079 remember downut there for one of the thirty visits through. 4:45:26.000 --> 4:45:28.760 We all didn't need to do that. We didn't need 4:45:28.800 --> 4:45:30.640 to do that. We did the homework. We have enough 4:45:30.680 --> 4:45:34.240 sources and we had spent enough time with him to 4:45:34.320 --> 4:45:37.720 be comfortable with who the kid was. Excuse me there, 4:45:37.919 --> 4:45:39.759 I just want to add that, Uh, you know, Joe 4:45:39.840 --> 4:45:41.919 Filman had a chance to spend the time with them, 4:45:41.960 --> 4:45:45.360 and you know, the classroom work is obviously important. You know, 4:45:45.440 --> 4:45:48.280 we felt great about what he put on video, but 4:45:48.360 --> 4:45:50.320 you know, the personal workout does give you a chance 4:45:50.360 --> 4:45:53.720 to get a closer look and particularly spend the time 4:45:53.759 --> 4:45:56.079 and the one on one time. So obviously he had 4:45:56.160 --> 4:45:58.840 high marks and all that building film work with them 4:45:58.880 --> 4:46:04.600 to Outpulso correct. There are a couple of defensive players 4:46:04.640 --> 4:46:08.280 on the board there, Johnson and Lloyd Or was there 4:46:08.320 --> 4:46:12.680 consider strong consideration given taking defense? There was the rage 4:46:13.640 --> 4:46:15.360 to the point where you knew you were going to 4:46:15.400 --> 4:46:22.360 go Smith, But I will say, yes, yes, that there 4:46:22.400 --> 4:46:29.240 were strong consideration to defense there. We had though predetermined 4:46:30.919 --> 4:46:35.680 that he was even against defense, and I'm not going 4:46:35.720 --> 4:46:40.200 to give the specific players, but even against defense, we 4:46:40.440 --> 4:46:43.960 had determined that he was the leader in the clubhouse 4:46:45.560 --> 4:46:49.320 if we had a choice, and so we didn't have 4:46:49.480 --> 4:46:52.720 to have when he dropped, when he was available, we 4:46:52.800 --> 4:46:56.160 didn't have to have a big discussion and debate and 4:46:56.280 --> 4:47:00.320 all that kind of thing we looked over. As a 4:47:00.360 --> 4:47:02.280 matter of fact, Steven was on the phone with a 4:47:02.400 --> 4:47:05.600 trade and it turns out that they wanted to trade 4:47:05.720 --> 4:47:09.360 right ahead of us, and turns out that the trade 4:47:09.480 --> 4:47:13.680 that was attempted was to get him. We later found 4:47:13.720 --> 4:47:17.480 that out, So we knew we were in the wheelhouse there, 4:47:17.640 --> 4:47:20.600 and so we had a very clear despite as clear 4:47:20.919 --> 4:47:27.560 of on the board decision that I've seen unanimous decision 4:47:27.640 --> 4:47:29.560 in the room that when he came to us and 4:47:29.640 --> 4:47:31.840 we had to pick to take him. That I've been 4:47:31.919 --> 4:47:37.040 involved in green Zion Johnson, And again we don't have that, 4:47:37.200 --> 4:47:40.440 and I don't want to get into that, but let 4:47:40.520 --> 4:47:42.680 me put it like this. We have both of them. 4:47:44.560 --> 4:47:48.520 Was printed three days ago below him, both of those 4:47:48.600 --> 4:48:01.640 players and below him. Can you see that serious? Because 4:48:01.680 --> 4:48:05.200 there's I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. No, we really 4:48:05.280 --> 4:48:07.200 did have him ready to blow it. No, we really 4:48:07.240 --> 4:48:15.480 did both of them. Your question, Well, hey man, let 4:48:15.560 --> 4:48:20.720 me just say this. The other part. The other part 4:48:20.919 --> 4:48:24.120 is I'm looking to I don't see. I'm trying to 4:48:24.200 --> 4:48:26.840 see who's on here. I'm trying to see who's on here. 4:48:26.880 --> 4:48:30.040 There wouldn't be but if they're, if you take out 4:48:30.120 --> 4:48:37.160 the quarterbacks, it won't be anybody on heres. The key 4:48:37.280 --> 4:48:39.080 thing for you know, the only thing I would add 4:48:39.080 --> 4:48:42.759 to this, the key thing Smith is just his ability 4:48:42.960 --> 4:48:44.800 were taking can be our left tackle for a long 4:48:44.919 --> 4:48:47.240 time at some point in time. Obviously we got the 4:48:47.320 --> 4:48:51.200 best in the business now and Tyron Smith, but uh, 4:48:51.400 --> 4:48:55.440 at some point his ability. We really believe he can 4:48:55.480 --> 4:49:01.040 be a really top top left tackle. It. I guess 4:49:01.720 --> 4:49:04.080 that's holds debate right about the trades and production of 4:49:04.160 --> 4:49:07.360 this process. You you value the phrase you more because 4:49:07.400 --> 4:49:10.760 you build like the perfect off. It's long with the penalties. 4:49:11.200 --> 4:49:12.879 How do you valance stay well? I think the one 4:49:12.880 --> 4:49:14.719 thing you got to remember about him is he played 4:49:14.759 --> 4:49:17.320 sixteen games. He had half a COVID year, and then 4:49:17.360 --> 4:49:19.600 he played last year. And he did play against some 4:49:19.680 --> 4:49:23.559 good competition. I'm playing against Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Cincinnati. 4:49:24.560 --> 4:49:26.640 You know, when you talk about Tulsa, you think, well, 4:49:26.880 --> 4:49:30.000 competition level of Colm. But I think there's a lot 4:49:30.040 --> 4:49:32.560 of things that you know, our coaching staff Mike and 4:49:33.160 --> 4:49:37.079 coach Philman and Blastgow will do to help him quickly. 4:49:37.120 --> 4:49:40.560 He's very intelligent young man. I think he'll pick it 4:49:40.680 --> 4:49:44.360 right up and he's gonna have top nights coaching, and 4:49:44.759 --> 4:49:47.560 h just feel very comfortable with that. In terms of 4:49:47.640 --> 4:49:49.840 the trade, I think, you know, when you're talking about 4:49:49.840 --> 4:49:51.840 a first round pick and what we could have gotten 4:49:51.880 --> 4:49:54.560 to move down, and Jerry is right, I happen to 4:49:54.600 --> 4:49:58.240 be good friends with the team that was calling. He 4:49:58.360 --> 4:50:00.720 sent me a tax right after we pay and said 4:50:01.000 --> 4:50:03.160 he glad you didn't trade with us. That was our guy. 4:50:04.160 --> 4:50:08.280 So um anyway, it's uh, you know, I think when 4:50:08.280 --> 4:50:10.680 you're talking about your first round pick, which you pick up, 4:50:11.240 --> 4:50:14.560 it's a good you know, resonates that you want to 4:50:14.560 --> 4:50:17.080 be careful. They're getting too cute in terms of moving down, 4:50:17.840 --> 4:50:20.480 you know, two, three, four or five picks. You gotta 4:50:20.480 --> 4:50:22.640 be careful with that. You know. He talked about the 4:50:22.960 --> 4:50:24.960 nasty or that y'all talk with the nast and set 4:50:25.080 --> 4:50:27.400 him as a player in talkas is that avocating memories 4:50:27.400 --> 4:50:29.760 of Eric Leavings for you. Oh well, he's one of 4:50:29.800 --> 4:50:31.960 the nastiest I've ever played through here. I mean lyle 4:50:32.080 --> 4:50:36.320 Collins had that to him and certainly, you know, we 4:50:36.440 --> 4:50:38.480 miss that, you know, we're gonna miss that with Lyle. 4:50:38.600 --> 4:50:41.480 But I think certainly he brings this to the table 4:50:41.680 --> 4:50:45.360 Smith does and uh, you know that was you know, 4:50:45.400 --> 4:50:48.440 at the top of the redeeming qualities and one of many. 4:50:48.640 --> 4:50:51.280 But certainly that's a big, big part of why we 4:50:51.400 --> 4:50:54.240 liked him. What did you learn about this mentally in 4:50:54.360 --> 4:50:57.239 terms of visibility to take the chine and go from 4:50:57.320 --> 4:50:59.040 the player that he's today is the player that you 4:50:59.080 --> 4:51:02.160 guys believe you one day. I think the biggest thing, 4:51:02.480 --> 4:51:04.880 I mean, I think we're all saying it is he 4:51:05.000 --> 4:51:07.360 has a tremendous ceiling. You know, he's a young man 4:51:07.440 --> 4:51:10.880 to what twenty years old, twenty one, you know, only 4:51:10.880 --> 4:51:14.879 played sixteen games. You know, some of his mistakes penalties 4:51:14.880 --> 4:51:17.200 and were of aggressive nature, so that those are the 4:51:17.280 --> 4:51:20.879 ones you're definitely you'd rather be done with combative, combative 4:51:21.240 --> 4:51:24.239 things that you can learn from. So but yeah, definitely, everything, 4:51:24.480 --> 4:51:26.280 like I said, everything checked out. I know Joe, Joe 4:51:26.400 --> 4:51:28.600 was very comfortable with him. I know the answer to 4:51:28.680 --> 4:51:31.160 this question, coach, because I talked to you about it. 4:51:32.120 --> 4:51:35.760 Is there a position on the entire football team that 4:51:35.919 --> 4:51:38.360 you have to project anymore, or that you have to 4:51:38.440 --> 4:51:42.080 develop anymore from college to prose than the offensive way. 4:51:42.759 --> 4:51:46.720 It's it's definitely that I'd say no that that demo quarterback, 4:51:46.800 --> 4:51:49.520 and especially I think the thing get recognize in this 4:51:49.720 --> 4:51:52.640 conversation Jerry and I had is in today's you know, 4:51:54.000 --> 4:51:57.320 offseason program, everything set up, the offensive lineman really are 4:51:57.440 --> 4:52:00.239 at a disadvantage because you know, they really don't get 4:52:00.320 --> 4:52:02.640 to really get the hand to hand combat until we 4:52:02.640 --> 4:52:04.360 get the training camp. So you know, you know, we 4:52:04.480 --> 4:52:07.200 talk about all those things. But he has a tremendous sailing. 4:52:07.240 --> 4:52:10.320 We're excited about that. But the minute you go offensive line, 4:52:10.400 --> 4:52:14.080 you've got to plan on. But I don't care what 4:52:14.360 --> 4:52:17.719 level he is. He's got some projection in him from 4:52:17.759 --> 4:52:19.960 the way he played in college. It's just a real 4:52:20.080 --> 4:52:26.200 different game in the offensive line to really effectively eliminate 4:52:26.280 --> 4:52:28.600 the kind of things that were great an offensive line 4:52:28.600 --> 4:52:31.000 about it one of them being mistakes and one of 4:52:31.040 --> 4:52:33.320 them being taken egg. So I don't care who you 4:52:33.520 --> 4:52:37.200 drafted offensive line, you've got some work to do. The 4:52:37.320 --> 4:52:39.280 last time you all dropped to the line in the 4:52:39.680 --> 4:52:42.280 first round, it was I heard one in four years 4:52:42.720 --> 4:52:44.680 the line was maybe even a little bit of a 4:52:44.720 --> 4:52:47.040 transition your building to what you ended up with. I 4:52:47.200 --> 4:52:49.640 forgot it if you like. The line is kind of 4:52:49.680 --> 4:52:51.280 at that point again where it's a little bit of 4:52:51.520 --> 4:52:54.480 a transition phase and you're sifting from what he had 4:52:55.160 --> 4:52:57.919 back then to what you're looking at Cornball. I think 4:52:57.919 --> 4:52:59.560 we're doing a nice job with it. I mean, one 4:52:59.600 --> 4:53:01.440 of the things we talked about after we made the 4:53:01.520 --> 4:53:03.680 pick is, you know, I think Mike was you know, 4:53:03.800 --> 4:53:06.759 verbalized it perfect. I mean, we look at Smith as 4:53:06.759 --> 4:53:10.600 being a left side position player, Ball as the right 4:53:10.680 --> 4:53:13.680 side position player who obviously we have a you know, 4:53:14.000 --> 4:53:16.240 a big resource in and we think a lot of him, 4:53:16.240 --> 4:53:18.360 and then we got Farniac in the middle. So it's 4:53:18.800 --> 4:53:22.000 you know, three young guys there that we really, uh 4:53:22.120 --> 4:53:25.320 you know, think a lot of and think are ready 4:53:25.400 --> 4:53:27.520 to you know, when their time comes to make that 4:53:27.680 --> 4:53:30.719 jump and you throw still in that mix and uh 4:53:31.280 --> 4:53:33.560 be Auditch and that mix. You know, it's a good 4:53:33.600 --> 4:53:36.720 group of young players. Now obviously you know zach and 4:53:37.160 --> 4:53:40.120 and Tyrn you know, you know, been in the league 4:53:40.200 --> 4:53:42.720 while and certainly the best in the business. But I 4:53:42.919 --> 4:53:45.760 do think you know, we've done We're doing a good 4:53:45.840 --> 4:53:48.040 job of getting the right pieces in place to be 4:53:48.120 --> 4:53:51.880 able to push those guys in as we move forward. Certainly, 4:53:52.080 --> 4:53:54.800 Connor McGovern's a young player as well, and you know 4:53:54.880 --> 4:53:57.039 he's going to get an opportunity to compete this year 4:53:57.120 --> 4:53:59.480 as well. But uh, you know, I really like how 4:53:59.520 --> 4:54:02.759 we're trainingsitioning, and but at the same time, I think 4:54:02.840 --> 4:54:05.320 we still have a chance to have, you know, a 4:54:05.400 --> 4:54:09.160 top top offensive line in this league. Important to that point, 4:54:09.200 --> 4:54:11.680 you just having the room in place we bring you 4:54:11.720 --> 4:54:14.280 guy like Tyler in terms of evans that just the 4:54:14.360 --> 4:54:17.480 coaches which the veterans forgo you can learn guys like 4:54:17.640 --> 4:54:21.200 hiring guys like that. How critical is that forty version development. 4:54:22.160 --> 4:54:24.480 It's awesome. I mean, that's that's what you want as 4:54:24.480 --> 4:54:27.240 a coach. And uh, we're very fortunate to have those 4:54:27.360 --> 4:54:29.840 those veteran players. And I think just as a whole 4:54:29.880 --> 4:54:32.640 our locker room, just spending some time with the leadership 4:54:32.680 --> 4:54:34.840 council this week on on a you know, on a 4:54:35.040 --> 4:54:36.520 couple of things that you know, to deal with the 4:54:36.600 --> 4:54:39.680 offseason program. This is a very very strong locker room, 4:54:40.160 --> 4:54:43.000 especially the offensive line room. Even you were saying the 4:54:43.080 --> 4:54:46.120 other day that you thought you had as many top 4:54:46.200 --> 4:54:48.320 of the second round grades on players. It was as 4:54:48.400 --> 4:54:50.840 deep as it's been in a while. As you win 4:54:50.960 --> 4:54:54.440 this first night, is that still a pretty good cluster 4:54:54.600 --> 4:54:57.280 there for you going into tomorrow? It's tempted out pretty good. 4:54:57.400 --> 4:54:59.759 I mean, when you only have fourteen first round picks 4:54:59.800 --> 4:55:02.800 and you know there's communication around the league. I don't 4:55:02.840 --> 4:55:05.320 think we were I think that was pretty much down 4:55:05.360 --> 4:55:08.360 the middle in terms of what other teams felt like 4:55:08.480 --> 4:55:10.840 they had in the first round. And so when that's 4:55:10.880 --> 4:55:13.440 what you have, what's coming next or those type of 4:55:13.520 --> 4:55:16.320 the second rounders, and you know they picked through us 4:55:16.360 --> 4:55:18.640 pretty good there. I mean, it was getting tight there 4:55:18.680 --> 4:55:20.880 at the end in terms of, you know, who was 4:55:20.919 --> 4:55:23.440 going to be available to us, in terms of when 4:55:23.480 --> 4:55:26.600 we picked at twenty four. Think of some of our 4:55:26.640 --> 4:55:29.960 competitors in their division what they did deceive me, because yeah, 4:55:29.960 --> 4:55:33.680 at least two picks before you guys, and they picked 4:55:33.720 --> 4:55:36.920 some great football players and then they got better. You know, 4:55:37.000 --> 4:55:40.760 I think all three teams in our division all got better. 4:55:41.120 --> 4:55:43.640 So you know, certainly the bars said high and we 4:55:43.680 --> 4:55:47.040 got to go to work. You see, defensive landing, go 4:55:47.520 --> 4:55:51.400 to your community. Me how much that even within this night, 4:55:51.880 --> 4:55:54.600 the possibility of going to the offensive play and I 4:55:54.680 --> 4:55:57.160 think it's critical. I think we've got to match that. 4:55:57.280 --> 4:55:59.520 I mean, look at what Philly did with the big 4:55:59.600 --> 4:56:03.760 tackle and Giants and you know with the pass rusher. 4:56:03.840 --> 4:56:06.360 I mean it's we've got you know, we've got to 4:56:06.400 --> 4:56:08.800 go to work there. And obviously that fronts always going 4:56:08.840 --> 4:56:12.039 to be a priority force both sides of the line. Uh, 4:56:12.160 --> 4:56:14.840 you know, it's critical. That's where the football game. Coach 4:56:14.960 --> 4:56:18.160 McCarthy always says it. Uh, you know, that's when you 4:56:18.240 --> 4:56:20.000 get to play off football. That's where you got to 4:56:20.040 --> 4:56:22.680 be strong. Even when you say that your team got 4:56:22.759 --> 4:56:25.360 better as well, though, I mean, was this ane position 4:56:25.440 --> 4:56:27.000 and a guy that you said to come right in 4:56:27.040 --> 4:56:30.120 and start? You know, I don't want to put them 4:56:30.240 --> 4:56:31.960 come right in and start. I mean we've got a 4:56:32.040 --> 4:56:34.759 good competitive situation there, but I do think we got 4:56:34.960 --> 4:56:37.559 much better. Uh you know with this pick. I mean 4:56:37.600 --> 4:56:39.840 we've got still a lot of work to do. Eight 4:56:39.919 --> 4:56:44.240 draft picks left, but it's one player. But certainly we're 4:56:44.360 --> 4:56:47.640 very pleased with what we ended up with. Tyrants missed 4:56:48.000 --> 4:56:50.240 games and I think he's paid a full season since 4:56:50.280 --> 4:56:54.040 twenty fifteen. Did you have to start thinking about was 4:56:54.120 --> 4:56:56.880 now the right time to start thinking about his future 4:56:56.960 --> 4:57:00.400 and how you eventually have to replace him. Well, as 4:57:00.840 --> 4:57:04.960 you know, he's phenomenal, He's had had a great career, 4:57:05.200 --> 4:57:08.719 and we believe he's got a lot of tread left 4:57:09.200 --> 4:57:13.960 left Tyrant does. But to the end that we were 4:57:13.960 --> 4:57:16.840 able to come in here with this kind of potential 4:57:17.080 --> 4:57:20.120 talent and have somebody that we think can help us 4:57:20.200 --> 4:57:24.759 this year with this pick and basically mail in if 4:57:24.800 --> 4:57:28.800 you will, what Tyran is about, what Martin, what all 4:57:28.840 --> 4:57:33.840 of that particular statue is in the offensive line, it's 4:57:33.880 --> 4:57:36.840 a great place to be putting some talent in the 4:57:36.919 --> 4:57:39.960 middle of it, and it's a great talent to work with. 4:57:40.800 --> 4:57:44.200 And it would be a misnomer to think that if 4:57:44.280 --> 4:57:47.800 you had offensive line beside your name tonight for the 4:57:47.919 --> 4:57:52.840 Cowboys that you didn't have a little extra attention because 4:57:53.080 --> 4:57:56.840 it was. It feels good to have gotten a player 4:57:56.880 --> 4:57:59.760 of this caliber in with that team within a team 4:58:00.240 --> 4:58:03.680 offensive what it's good, this good move and we're proud 4:58:03.720 --> 4:58:18.600 of jaredy Hall stop. Stop, thanks guys, All right, wrapping up, 4:58:18.680 --> 4:58:29.640 let's go yes sir, yes, So we are back on 4:58:30.000 --> 4:58:35.160 the internet side of things. That was the post draft 4:58:35.320 --> 4:58:39.039 post first round press conference, with Will McClay, Jerry Jones, 4:58:39.280 --> 4:58:42.360 Stephen Jones, and Mike McCarthy back here on the Draft Show. 4:58:42.960 --> 4:58:45.480 He's David Hellman, He's Brian brought us Bobby Belt and 4:58:45.720 --> 4:58:48.840 Sean Shariffe have vacated their area. They've got one oh 4:58:48.919 --> 4:58:51.440 five three the fan duties, Sean in the morning and 4:58:51.560 --> 4:58:55.520 then Bobby on the fan for the rest of the night. Yeah, 4:58:55.600 --> 4:58:57.920 you're exactly right. Sean's a trooper man. He's like to 4:58:58.040 --> 4:59:00.680 go from this and he's probably he's he's finished watching 4:59:00.720 --> 4:59:03.600 the MAVs game, and then he'll be up at like 4:59:03.720 --> 4:59:06.040 four AM to get that show ready. Good for you, Sean, 4:59:06.080 --> 4:59:07.640 You're a beast, and he's gonna be right back up 4:59:07.720 --> 4:59:09.880 here or did Sean won't be, but Bobby Belt will 4:59:09.880 --> 4:59:13.399 go until one and at one o'clock am, and then 4:59:13.440 --> 4:59:15.000 he'll turn around and be right back up here for 4:59:15.080 --> 4:59:19.360 our coverage starting at six o'clock Central time tomorrow. We 4:59:19.480 --> 4:59:21.600 will be on one oh five three to fan and 4:59:22.000 --> 4:59:25.879 on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com side of things as well. Brian, 4:59:26.040 --> 4:59:29.320 let's wrap up Night one. It was unexpected, to say 4:59:29.400 --> 4:59:32.000 the least, from picks one through twenty three, and it 4:59:32.320 --> 4:59:35.280 really provided a tough situation for the Cowboys. At pick 4:59:35.360 --> 4:59:39.320 twenty four, they select Tyler Smith, offensive tackle slash offensive 4:59:39.360 --> 4:59:42.759 lineman overall from Tulsa. What are your thoughts on the night? 4:59:43.240 --> 4:59:44.960 You know what I mean? When I look at my 4:59:45.800 --> 4:59:49.360 excuse me, when I look at my board and how 4:59:49.440 --> 4:59:52.040 I have it ranked, that's this is me. And again 4:59:52.080 --> 4:59:54.480 I put my board out there for everybody to see. 4:59:54.960 --> 4:59:56.480 You can go on my Twitter, Dave. I need to 4:59:56.560 --> 4:59:58.200 send it to you so you can maybe. Yeah, I'll 4:59:58.240 --> 4:59:59.760 get it printed out for you to print out right 5:00:00.160 --> 5:00:02.800 so everybody can see it the right way. But you know, yeah, 5:00:02.880 --> 5:00:05.320 I didn't have this guy as high as everybody else, 5:00:05.520 --> 5:00:07.000 you know. And and we and we and this was 5:00:07.040 --> 5:00:09.520 one of those things where I'm watching him play and 5:00:09.640 --> 5:00:12.160 I'm thinking about technique. We talk about the holdings and 5:00:12.240 --> 5:00:16.200 stuff like that, you know. But I that's my evaluation 5:00:16.280 --> 5:00:19.120 of him, you know. And I'm admitted I was wrong 5:00:19.200 --> 5:00:23.640 about Travis Frederick. You know, the same exact things that 5:00:23.800 --> 5:00:26.560 I think about, Oh, third round, Travis Frederick always not this, 5:00:26.800 --> 5:00:29.680 not that whatever, you know. And then Travis Frederick is 5:00:29.680 --> 5:00:32.320 an all pro player, you know, And I am I 5:00:32.400 --> 5:00:35.360 concerned about the some of the lack of the technique. Yes, 5:00:35.600 --> 5:00:38.000 am I concerned about some of the holding calls, Yes 5:00:38.280 --> 5:00:41.800 I am, you know, but we'll see, We'll see. He 5:00:42.000 --> 5:00:45.240 is a big, powerful man that's got is a very 5:00:45.280 --> 5:00:47.960 good athlete, you know, and if they can, if they 5:00:48.040 --> 5:00:51.160 can work with that. I wouldn't say that immediately he's 5:00:51.200 --> 5:00:53.720 going to be plug and play. I think there's going 5:00:53.800 --> 5:00:56.520 to be some some things along the way that he's 5:00:56.560 --> 5:00:58.480 going to have to learn and get better at it. 5:00:59.200 --> 5:01:01.240 But you know that that's what they needed. They're they're 5:01:01.280 --> 5:01:03.919 looking at offensive lineman, they're looking at guards. They had 5:01:04.040 --> 5:01:06.879 him a lot higher than I had him on my board. 5:01:07.440 --> 5:01:10.840 So am I happy about them? They got who they wanted. Yeah, 5:01:11.200 --> 5:01:13.560 I was me like I say, I'm kind of looking 5:01:13.600 --> 5:01:16.640 at the board like Tyler Lindenbaum, you know, some others. 5:01:16.840 --> 5:01:19.400 But they weren't going to take those guys. See that's 5:01:19.400 --> 5:01:21.840 again my board. Am I happy about it? From what 5:01:21.960 --> 5:01:24.200 I saw? No, I felt like they took a third 5:01:24.280 --> 5:01:27.120 round player. That's you know, That's how I see. But 5:01:27.400 --> 5:01:30.560 to them, that know, and they don't give a rats 5:01:30.640 --> 5:01:33.240 you know what about what I think? Either, they really don't. 5:01:34.240 --> 5:01:35.920 They don't. They don't care about it, you know, And 5:01:36.080 --> 5:01:39.759 and you know what, I'm I'm interested to see how 5:01:39.840 --> 5:01:41.720 he comes in and plugs and play. And my hope 5:01:41.759 --> 5:01:44.920 for Cowboy fans is that he is a guy that 5:01:45.400 --> 5:01:50.440 is is this is this drafts uh, Travis Frederick where 5:01:50.560 --> 5:01:53.759 I'm really really wrong about the player. Hometown kid, Fort 5:01:53.840 --> 5:01:56.360 Worth native, went to North Crowley High School, and now 5:01:56.880 --> 5:02:00.480 he is a part of the Dallas Cowboys. And it 5:02:00.640 --> 5:02:03.360 makes things interesting on the offensive line moving into the 5:02:04.280 --> 5:02:07.400 training camp in the latter parts of this offseason, moving 5:02:07.440 --> 5:02:10.440 into the preseason, because there's competition there. Now, Yeah, well 5:02:10.480 --> 5:02:13.759 that would smiss a part of it. It's irrelevant how 5:02:13.840 --> 5:02:16.559 good he is right now because we have no way 5:02:16.600 --> 5:02:19.000 of knowing. Like, we'll argue about this all summer, we'll 5:02:19.000 --> 5:02:20.840 go to training camp, we'll see how he does. So 5:02:21.040 --> 5:02:23.879 like and this is just the way I view things, Brian, 5:02:23.960 --> 5:02:26.040 you know, like all these years, I always I'm just like, 5:02:26.200 --> 5:02:29.640 I'm really more focused on the strategy than like the grade, 5:02:29.720 --> 5:02:32.120 and so I just look, I'm like, Okay, they said 5:02:32.160 --> 5:02:34.920 they had no musts. I tend to not believe it 5:02:34.960 --> 5:02:36.440 because this is what they did in the for a month. 5:02:36.520 --> 5:02:40.480 I think that's what their goal was all the way around. Now, 5:02:40.520 --> 5:02:42.360 they've got a guy that they think can push for 5:02:42.480 --> 5:02:45.640 the starting guard job and be an insurance policy at tackle. 5:02:46.080 --> 5:02:48.560 And so now we check that. I don't think I'm 5:02:48.560 --> 5:02:50.360 not gonna say you don't need to worry about O line, 5:02:50.400 --> 5:02:51.960 but I don't think we need to be hunting O 5:02:52.160 --> 5:02:55.400 linemen tomorrow. And now you can talk about receivers, you 5:02:55.440 --> 5:02:57.800 can talk about tight ends, you can talk about edge rushers. 5:02:58.120 --> 5:03:01.680 That's where mind mind goes because I've gotten in way 5:03:01.680 --> 5:03:04.600 too many arguments on Thursday night after the first round 5:03:05.480 --> 5:03:08.320 about guys that we were wildly right on and wildly 5:03:08.360 --> 5:03:11.240 wrong on. Like it almost feels like a waste of breath. 5:03:11.280 --> 5:03:13.360 It's like, Okay, this was the pick. It's not what 5:03:13.400 --> 5:03:14.880 a lot of people would have done. We'll see how 5:03:14.919 --> 5:03:19.240 it pans out. Yeah, I again, that's that these this 5:03:19.440 --> 5:03:21.960 is what was crazy about their draft, or not the 5:03:22.040 --> 5:03:25.200 Cowboys draft, but just the draft overall. You know, you know, 5:03:25.400 --> 5:03:31.520 I'm looking at my board. I had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. 5:03:32.080 --> 5:03:34.720 I had eleven players taken out of the second round, 5:03:35.280 --> 5:03:36.919 and then I had a player taken out of the third, 5:03:36.960 --> 5:03:39.400 which was Smith. And then you look at what the 5:03:39.520 --> 5:03:42.440 Patriots did you know was strange I had in the 5:03:42.520 --> 5:03:45.760 fourth you know, so this was one of those drafts 5:03:45.800 --> 5:03:48.280 that was kind of crazy in that way that maybe 5:03:48.759 --> 5:03:51.280 you know that that you know, and I don't know. 5:03:51.680 --> 5:03:54.600 I don't know if they the fact that they I 5:03:54.640 --> 5:03:57.520 don't know if if it's true or not about that 5:03:57.720 --> 5:04:02.800 they had Smith over Johnson and Green. You know, I 5:04:03.280 --> 5:04:05.680 kind of find that a little bit hard to believe. 5:04:05.840 --> 5:04:09.000 Hard to believe, but again, that's their board. Yeah, I 5:04:09.120 --> 5:04:11.680 have my board. They have their board. You know, their 5:04:11.759 --> 5:04:13.960 board matters more than my board. And I'm glad you 5:04:14.040 --> 5:04:16.039 brought that up because a lot of people on Twitter, 5:04:16.160 --> 5:04:19.920 and deservedly so, are saying the word reach. They felt 5:04:20.000 --> 5:04:23.320 like he reached on Tyler Smith. And in your opinion, yes, 5:04:23.520 --> 5:04:27.079 and in our opinion to a certain extent, yes, Brian 5:04:27.120 --> 5:04:29.320 said it already. It's a third round player on his board. 5:04:29.320 --> 5:04:31.280 He was a second round player on my board. They 5:04:31.360 --> 5:04:34.720 thought that we think that's a reach to them, that 5:04:34.919 --> 5:04:36.880 might not be a reach. They may have gotten their guy. 5:04:37.000 --> 5:04:39.480 It's it's in beauties in the guye of the beholder. 5:04:39.840 --> 5:04:41.400 They know the player more than we do to a 5:04:41.480 --> 5:04:43.600 certain except they worked him out at Tulsa. They were 5:04:43.640 --> 5:04:46.079 at his pro day. He's a hometown product. They had 5:04:46.160 --> 5:04:50.640 plenty private So the next time an NFL team doesn't 5:04:50.640 --> 5:04:52.880 get their guy, I'll be the first time. Though. I agree, 5:04:52.919 --> 5:04:54.840 by the way, that's the second and second part about it, 5:04:54.919 --> 5:04:57.000 that that makes sense. And they'll get two more of 5:04:57.080 --> 5:05:00.840 their guys tomorrow. Yeah, they'll get up to and they'll say, 5:05:00.919 --> 5:05:03.640 we could not believe that so and so and so 5:05:03.800 --> 5:05:06.240 and so were there, but here we are just having 5:05:06.280 --> 5:05:07.879 the best luck of all time. I mean, that's kind 5:05:07.919 --> 5:05:10.880 of how this thing works. But no, I, like I said, 5:05:10.880 --> 5:05:14.120 I mean, I'm like, I've done this too many times 5:05:14.160 --> 5:05:16.680 to just emphatically think it was a good or bad decision. 5:05:16.800 --> 5:05:20.960 But when you snapshot this thing, when we're here years 5:05:21.080 --> 5:05:23.880 from now talking about this, it'll be this three pick 5:05:24.040 --> 5:05:27.680 stretch right here, number twenty four to number twenty six, 5:05:28.200 --> 5:05:32.320 Tyler Smith, actually no, to twenty seventh. There, Tyler Smith, 5:05:32.880 --> 5:05:38.000 Tyler Linderbaum, Jermaine Johnson, Devin Lloyd. That's how this draft. 5:05:38.080 --> 5:05:40.759 Those were all three players that I had. I had 5:05:40.800 --> 5:05:43.360 two of the three in the first round. Lloyd was 5:05:43.440 --> 5:05:47.960 my seventh best overall player, Linderbaum was at ten, you know, 5:05:48.200 --> 5:05:51.040 and then with Johnson. I had he was the He 5:05:51.240 --> 5:05:54.280 was my top rated player in the second in the 5:05:54.400 --> 5:05:58.360 second round. So yeah, And you know that's the great 5:05:58.400 --> 5:06:00.480 thing about this is we come on, we talk about it, 5:06:00.520 --> 5:06:03.200 we analyze this, and I hadn't been in a war 5:06:03.280 --> 5:06:05.440 room in a long time. I'm just looking at the players. 5:06:05.560 --> 5:06:07.840 I'm just taking the best, the best tape I can 5:06:07.919 --> 5:06:10.000 get and watching this guy. They have a hell of 5:06:10.040 --> 5:06:12.880 a lot more about this guy. And the one thing 5:06:12.960 --> 5:06:15.160 they've proven to me is they could take first round 5:06:15.240 --> 5:06:19.040 lineman and make it work. So that's my hope. That's 5:06:19.080 --> 5:06:22.040 my hope. I'd be more than happy to admit some 5:06:22.280 --> 5:06:24.280 day at the Lake that I was dead ass wrong 5:06:24.360 --> 5:06:26.360 about this guy. You know that I had a third 5:06:26.440 --> 5:06:28.520 round grade. But I do see a big man. I 5:06:28.680 --> 5:06:31.520 do see a guy that plays that does a great 5:06:31.560 --> 5:06:33.560 job in the run game as far as getting pushed. 5:06:34.000 --> 5:06:36.200 But I think there's some things technically that he's going 5:06:36.240 --> 5:06:38.320 to have to clean up in this league. I just 5:06:38.480 --> 5:06:41.720 think we spend so much time hyping this up and 5:06:42.040 --> 5:06:43.800 it takes a whole year to come back around. We 5:06:43.880 --> 5:06:46.079 always forget, we get lost in the hype of the draft. 5:06:46.800 --> 5:06:50.240 I think the Cowboys draft grades are guidelines. You know, 5:06:50.440 --> 5:06:53.519 they had a higher grade on Micah than the cornerbacks 5:06:53.600 --> 5:06:55.680 last year, but they were going to take a cornerback 5:06:55.759 --> 5:06:59.840 above him jumping tags, I guess. And I don't know 5:07:00.000 --> 5:07:01.560 what their board looks like right now. They say that, 5:07:01.800 --> 5:07:03.680 they say that he had a first round grade. I 5:07:03.720 --> 5:07:05.840 don't know if I buy that. Maybe he really was 5:07:05.919 --> 5:07:09.120 the highest grade left or maybe he filled the role 5:07:09.200 --> 5:07:11.440 that they circled before the draft is what they needed 5:07:11.480 --> 5:07:13.360 to do. They did a really good job of keeping 5:07:13.400 --> 5:07:15.920 that a secret from people. Unless kept it closes. This 5:07:16.160 --> 5:07:18.239 is as good as a job as they've done. Unless 5:07:18.360 --> 5:07:20.840 on top of it, you know, and maybe maybe somebody 5:07:20.880 --> 5:07:23.120 like and I'm not gonna say mil kiper got lucky, 5:07:23.680 --> 5:07:25.800 you know, got lucky here, because there's some people that 5:07:25.960 --> 5:07:29.400 picked They picked Tyler Smith, you know, in this in 5:07:29.560 --> 5:07:32.520 this draft, and you know, I'm impressed if you you know, 5:07:32.600 --> 5:07:35.640 I mentioned lanz Zerline picking you know, Kenyan Green at 5:07:35.680 --> 5:07:38.200 Texas A and m at you know, thirteen fourteen, whatever 5:07:38.280 --> 5:07:40.919 that pick was. So I mean, some of these guys, 5:07:41.160 --> 5:07:42.840 you know, they knew what was going on. And I'm 5:07:42.880 --> 5:07:44.680 not saying that mil kiper knew what was going on, 5:07:45.080 --> 5:07:47.280 but maybe that was a player. He thought, well, heck, 5:07:47.320 --> 5:07:49.840 I gotta put an offensive lineman too, Dallas, and I 5:07:49.919 --> 5:07:52.520 got all these other guys gone. You know, that might 5:07:52.600 --> 5:07:55.000 be just filling in the spots right there. But hey, 5:07:55.280 --> 5:07:57.840 I hope I do. I hope he works out very, 5:07:57.960 --> 5:08:01.239 very well for the Cowboys. I have my doubts, but again, 5:08:01.400 --> 5:08:03.879 that is a big, big, big man. That's an athlete. 5:08:04.080 --> 5:08:07.759 Congratulations to Tyler Smith. He was the twenty fourth overall selection, 5:08:07.840 --> 5:08:10.120 the newest Dallas Cowboy. We got to talk to him 5:08:10.120 --> 5:08:12.280 a little bit earlier on one oh five three the Fan. 5:08:12.360 --> 5:08:15.640 We'll also have two more draft picks at the moment tomorrow. 5:08:15.720 --> 5:08:18.720 There could be some chance for more draft picks along 5:08:18.759 --> 5:08:20.920 the way. They've got four fifth round picks they could 5:08:20.919 --> 5:08:23.200 play around with. Maybe they jump back in to the 5:08:23.280 --> 5:08:25.400 third round and make something happen. But that's gonna do 5:08:25.480 --> 5:08:27.680 it for us here on Night one of the twenty 5:08:27.800 --> 5:08:31.000 twenty two NFL Draft Special Thanks to everybody who's helped 5:08:31.040 --> 5:08:33.800 pull this off, not only tonight but throughout the entire 5:08:33.960 --> 5:08:38.360 draft process. Chris Beam, Matt Kent, Tim Collins, All, Ted Nichols, 5:08:38.440 --> 5:08:40.600 Pain all a big, huge part of this in the 5:08:40.640 --> 5:08:43.919 back making things happen. Jasmine Marshall back there as well. 5:08:44.120 --> 5:08:47.320 William hanging out too, Man, William boykins On takes a 5:08:47.400 --> 5:08:50.440 village to put us on man. 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