1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: I am in Line Order. I'm in an episode of 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Line Order. That was one of my dreams in my 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: whole in. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Life is to be. 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: So look, this is when like becoming a Hella good 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: basketball player works for you. 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Point Game. We have a 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: very special episode for you all this week. We're gonna 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: take you to our first live show that was recorded 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 3: during All Star weekend in Los Angeles. We sat down 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: in front of a crowd to talk about everything from 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: It's legacy to his appearance on Law and Ordered SVU, 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: and then also what it was like playing for the 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: Celtics while Himni Zad have been lifelong Lakers fans. Also, 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 3: if you're listening to this, make sure to check out 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: our YouTube channel for this episode to get the whole experience. So, 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: without further ado, here's our special Q and A at 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: Point Game line. 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go there there. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 4: It's always great see crossing the bath a lot of y'all. 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: You got like five stories in the NBA and I 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 5: did a tryout with. 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 6: The Kings and I literally almost got a fight over 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 6: what do. 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 2: You come over? 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: The we need we need all the details of that is, 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: I mean, the Marcus was trying to fight everybody. 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: So yes, I remember, so yes I remember that. That's 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: crazy when it's all said, what do you want your 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: major message to be? 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: Like you not not retired, but like like you need 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: you need your your. 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Legacy to your children, what you want them to do 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: for you from you go? 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: Man, I want him to just honestly, Like it sounds 36 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: so cliche, but like being an amazing person matters, bro. 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: Like, so like. 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: I've been around toes, I've been around like good people. 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I've been around really amazing people, And the most important 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: thing I can say is like being a really good person, 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Like I try to teach my kids. 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: We try to teach our kids every day. Like that's 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: what it's about. 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: So when somebody comes to me and be like, man, 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: you're your kid is respectful, your kid is like he's 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: a really nice kid, Like that means more to me 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: than your kid is filthy at who, like he's cold 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: at who, it's like because that's bigger than the game 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: of basketball. The game of basketball can only take you 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: so much. So that's what I learned. And if you 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: ask anybody that any team that I've ever been on, 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: like I'm treating the equipment manager, just like I'm treating 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: the guy that you know signing my checks, because that's 54 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: how it should be. So that's the only thing I'm 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: teaching my kids, if they can learn anything, is the 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: impact I had on people, how I treated each and everybody, 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: And if there's one thing that I can leave behind 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: is like, like, other than the basketball player, like I 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: was a really great person, and I think that's what 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: makes a bigger impact than anything. And that's hardest. That's 61 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: hard to do though on a day to day basis. 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Everybody goes through different everybody goes through trials and trivilations, 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: so it's hard to be a good person when she 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: ain't always going your way. But I think that that that, 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, that shows who you are when you ain't 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: going your way, and you can still treat somebody how 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: they should be treated, and that's how it should be. 68 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: Especially in today's society. 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: It's like we're living in some messed up times and 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: the smallest thing can help somebody. So that's why I 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: try to smile as much as I can. I try 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: to just like have that good energy even if i'm 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: as you know, like I'm strung uggling, like you feel 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: me I'm struggling mentally because, like you know, I've dealt 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: with loss lately and that ship that's something we all 76 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: go through. But if you can make somebody else smile 77 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: and make somebody else's day by just you know, doing 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: what's right, man, that's what matters. That's what matters. 79 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: My question there is also for Isaiah Thomas about the 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: off courses is an All four question. 81 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: It's about Uh, she's in nineteen episode five of Law 82 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: and Order Special. 83 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: That we talked about a little bit complicated. 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: Uh don't know. 85 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas gives an authentic cast Jersey too Late trying 86 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: to find. 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: And I was just wondering how this came about it. Look, look, 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you that is funny. So yeah, I am. 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm in Line Order. I'm in an episode of Line Order. 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: That was one of my dreams in my home in 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: life is to be. 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: On line Orders. 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: So look, this is when like becoming a Hella good 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: basketball player works for you. So when I became like 95 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: a star in everybody's eyes, that's when I start tapping 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: into everything. 97 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, I reached out, I had the agency reach 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: out to Line Order. 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, even if I can just be a 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: guy walking by, like I just wanted, Like, that's my 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: favorite show ever, so I just wanted to be an 102 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: extra in it, like real shit, I just wanted to 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: meet those everybody in Lawn Order, and I wanted to 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: be an extra. And then one day they came, like 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: my agency came and was like being Lawn Order wants 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: you to be in an episode and you got lines. 107 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, You're a line. And this was the time I. 108 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Got traded to Cleveland. So I'm already I'm mad as 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I up with the Cavs. Look no, I'm mad that 110 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: I just got traded, and I'm hurt. At that time, 111 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this was the only positive in my summer, 112 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I promise you. 113 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: So when they when they. 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: Told me, when they told me I was gonna be 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: on the show, they flew me to New York. I'm 116 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: in the little I'm in the little backstage thing, iced 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: Tea walks through. I'm like, like, these are all like 118 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: to me, these are like Michael Jordan. Every every actor 119 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: in there is like I feel like they're like on 120 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: that level of stardom. 121 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: So I'm tripping out. 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: And at that point in my life, I wasn't really 123 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: tripping out on nobody in terms of like a celebrity 124 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: like that. But when I seen every one of the 125 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: people that I watch every day come up to me 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: and show me love, I was like, this is crazy. 127 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: It was one of the moments like when I told 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: you the All Star Game where I'm on the bench, 129 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Kobe's right there, Lebron's right there like this, 130 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm and I'm forgetting I'm an All 131 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Star too. 132 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: That's how it was. 133 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: So it was like the dopest moment, one of the 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: dopest moments in my life. 135 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: I was on set for like eight hours. 136 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: And I had like one line, like I kept I 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: kept having to do this over and over it because 138 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: they had to do it so many times. But it 139 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: was like like the smile I had now the whole day. 140 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: I promise you, because we had to start. 141 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: At like six am. The whole day, I'm just smiling. 142 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just in my life and I'm so 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: nervous at the time as well, But that was like 144 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: that was one of like the like I checked. 145 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: That off the list. Bro. 146 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: So like when people on social media sometimes late at night, 147 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: it be coming on that night. Sometimes that shit be 148 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: crazy somebody all the time. Baby, I can't even tell 149 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: you my line. I can't even tell you look it 150 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: up theya. It was like a press conference halls up 151 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: there like this, and I was up there looking so nervous. 152 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: It was crazy, But it was like that was one 153 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: of the dopest moments in my in my life, and 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm always going to remember that. So if lin Order 155 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: is watching, please ask me to be back on. I 156 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: don't even got to say nothing this time, Like, but 157 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: that was that was, that was done. 158 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: Your co host goes missing and then they they're start 159 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: interrogating you. 160 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: Word c J go, that's the episode. 161 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do that for show, and then not 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: even and then later in that summer to me and 163 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: my kids was on a little Nikky Ricky Dicky and 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: don too. If you ever if you're if you got 165 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: any kids and watching that, I'm always I'll pop on 166 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: that every now and then too. 167 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: So you I was making my rounds for show. 168 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: I've been trying to be a comedian, writer, actor. You 169 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: have a bigger or longer I am dB than me. 170 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm tapped in. So if you need me. 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: I could get you. I could get you on the shows. 172 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: The line order that was cracking. I was oh man, 173 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: that was that was fun? Oh Man, good question, Jameel. 174 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: All right over here in the l a hat. 175 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: What bro with the Olympics two years away? The last 176 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 4: ones were amazing, you know, with the curry and going on. 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: Do you see us as a favorite or if you 178 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 4: see another country or favorite? 179 00:08:59,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 5: TJ. 180 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: That's all right, Yeah, I see us as the favorite. Still. 181 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I give us, not saying I give us one more round, 182 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: but I think the world obviously has caught up a 183 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: little bit, like everybody's getting a lot better. But I 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: see us winning. What is that in twenty eight I 185 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: see us winning that one. We still got the best 186 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: players in the world, So like we're winning that one 187 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: for sure, even though even though it got close, like 188 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: we I think they were just playing with us a 189 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: little bit. 190 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 6: And it's true that everybody always gets the hardest Lakers. 191 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's La. You look in La. You're getting 192 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: up for that game every time. You know, everybody you 193 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: see on TV is going to be in the front 194 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: row La New York, Miami every now and then. But 195 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: La and the Knicks like you're getting up like you're 196 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: you're going to sleep. Hopefully you're going to sleep the 197 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: night before. Most guys is knocked out the night before. 198 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, your video inspiration. He brought a lot to the game. 199 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 6: To appreciate that, I'm the founder of a basketball I 200 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 6: went to staff. My question was about technology and you 201 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 6: basketball and a lot of stuff agh school level. I'm 202 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 6: curious what do you think technology's role can be and 203 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 6: hoping these years developing either as people as basketball players 204 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 6: passions of the game, because the way that you've played 205 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: and the way you've talked about the game is something 206 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 6: that I don't know every young personally. 207 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's good for the game. 208 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: I think. 209 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: Being able to have access to seeing what other people 210 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: are doing around the world, being able to like because 211 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: like when I was growing up, you're not you couldn't 212 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: see what anybody else was doing. 213 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: Like you couldn't. 214 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: You couldn't really other than you know, the top players 215 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: or college players or NBA players, but you couldn't see 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: what your peer was doing. You couldn't see what the 217 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: kid my age was doing and how he was going 218 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: to develop. So I think the AI and the in 219 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: the technology in today's game is good for the game, 220 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: like it gives you not only for the player, it 221 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: gives you an outlet to be I always talk about 222 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: this with the generation of kids. It gives you the 223 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: game of basketball, the game of technology, gives you an 224 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: outlet to still be a part. 225 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: Of the game and not be the player. 226 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's important for kids to know because 227 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: everybody wants to be the player and the odds of 228 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: being the player. You got a better chance of winning 229 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: the lotto than to be drafted to be a pro. 230 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: And that's obviously that's not taken away from a kid's dream, 231 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: that's just what reality is. But giving these kids access 232 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: to knowing their's jobs around the game, and you can 233 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: still be have access to players, you can still be 234 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: in the gym, you can still record players workouts and 235 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: be a part of the game of basketball or any 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: sport in general. Like that's given another kid an outlet 237 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: to make it making it in whatever else did they 238 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: know see whatever making it means. So I think it's 239 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: good for the game of basketball. I think it's good 240 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: for sports in general. And it's only going to get better, 241 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: and it's only going to get bigger and kids are 242 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: gonna learn how to use it to their advantage, and 243 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: I think that's what the game needs. 244 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 2: I think that's what life needs, is kids. 245 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: Being able to have access on things they can use 246 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: to their advantage so they can be successful at something. 247 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: And like I said, it doesn't have to be the 248 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: actual talent. The talent is everything around it as well. 249 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: All Right, two more questions? Two more? 250 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: We could keep going. You want to keep you got it? 251 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: A few more minutes? Okay, I want to do. 252 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: What believing yourself and being a delusional some white question 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 5: was who believed in you before it was audiust that 254 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 5: you're gonna be. 255 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: Into that you? 256 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I would just probably say my parents really 257 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: like to an extent like my parents, and I'm not 258 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: even saying that in. 259 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: A bad way. 260 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: The delusional part is your parents are always gonna say, 261 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: have a plan, b have something to fall back on. 262 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: So yes, they believed in my dream, but only to 263 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: an extent, because what I was believing in wasn't. It 264 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: was damn near a fairy tale like coming from where 265 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: we come from, like or coming from where anybody comes from. 266 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: To make it to the NBA is like the odds 267 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: are just against you. So anytime I could date back 268 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: to being in grade school and you know the first 269 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: day of school, the teacher asked you what you want 270 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: to be. 271 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: And I say an NBA player. 272 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the teacher like showing me, but anybody 273 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: who says an NLFU player NBA player teachers like, yeah, okay, 274 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: everybody wants to be that. 275 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: That's just the way it is. 276 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: So the belief in myself came from just the love 277 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: of the game of basketball and everything I wanted. Like 278 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: I told you earlier, I really loved before I knew 279 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: what love was or before I knew how to love something. 280 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: I loved the game and everything about the game. 281 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: So whatever came with the game, I loved it, the 282 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: process of it, how hard it was, the setbacks and 283 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: people doubting me, nobody believing in what I really wanted 284 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: to be. And any time I told somebody I wanted 285 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: to be an NBA player, you get like somebody being 286 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: like everybody wants to be that. Like as a kid, 287 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: that hurts feel me like it hurts, but the kids 288 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: not being able to express that. So my biggest thing 289 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: is like my belief has took me places. 290 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: That I only dream of and I really, I really 291 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: mean that. 292 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: So when I have talks with these kids, I really 293 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: like my confidence in myself, my faith in myself, my 294 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: ultimate belief every day that I was gonna make it 295 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: really made me make it. And I know that's not 296 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: always the right thing to do. But if you ask 297 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: anybody who's made it in anything that's damn near impossible, 298 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: they were crazy. Whether it be Steve Jobs, whether it 299 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: be the top dogs in anything ever made. 300 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: They were delusional. They were. 301 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: They were paranoid, they were every word that you could 302 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: think of. That's what they were. And then it just happened. 303 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: That's what happened to me. But in terms of like 304 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: every level, it was the same obstacles I had to chase. 305 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't a brick wall up, it was a 306 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: speed bump. I just had to get over the bump. 307 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't just hitting the wall. It was like, Okay, 308 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: this has happened. Let me get around this. This has happened. 309 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: And I was my mind and my body was so 310 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: prepared for everything, for everything wrong to happen. I was 311 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: able to maneuver around the wrong and get to the 312 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: right every time. And I don't try to tell kids 313 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: that live like that, because yeah, you want more options 314 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: in life and you want to do other things, but 315 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: if you want to be great at some I seen 316 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Kobe say something the other day, not the other day. 317 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: The other day. 318 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: I seen what Kobe said, and he said, like, this 319 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: isn't a secondrific when you want to do something like 320 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, I can't go to this party, 321 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: I got to sacrifice this time. It's like, no, I 322 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: want to do this and that's the only thing I'm doing. 323 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sacrifice that to do the other ship. And 324 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: that's backwards. So my faith is everything, my belief in myself, 325 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: my preparation, because without preparation, I have no belief. 326 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: And I'm not taking no for an answer. What thank you? 327 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: If it wasn't for basketball, what's another sport you to go? 328 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: She did nothing? 329 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Famn, Yeah, baseball, I'm trash. Look, look, I tell you 330 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: a story doing prep school. There was there was a thing. 331 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: I went to prep school in Connecticut, so when your 332 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: sport wasn't in, you had to play another sport. So 333 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: one year I tried off for baseball. They put me 334 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: on JV baseball fam and they didn't look I'm practicing. 335 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing and I'm not even saying I. 336 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: Was that bad. There was no way I was that bad. 337 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: They were just hating on me. 338 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: They didn't even put me on the playing roster, like 339 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 1: the game day roster. So like three games in, I 340 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: just quit and I went to go play tennis. Fam 341 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: So I played tennis. I was playing tennis. I was 342 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: losing this, but I was just I was just in 343 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: it for the fun. But I don't think there's another sport. 344 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: I mean football. I ain't trying to get hit that 345 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: much like baseball got the dopest swag. Though if I 346 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: was good at it, I would try it. But I 347 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: can't even hit that like that, So I don't know 348 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: what I would do. Bro it would be basketball or nothing. 349 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, no offense that team my question. 350 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: It's all good. 351 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: This is all. 352 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Nah, it's love. I hired him. It's good. Make 353 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: me feel goodju Uh. 354 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: When you play basketball one, you're gonna. 355 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh, you're the guy that pumpagon can't shoot. I pump 356 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: punk pump And it's not even I. 357 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: Didn't know before I signed this contract. 358 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: He's not good at who I have my own now 359 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: I heard CJ. Got game. I'm not even gonna I 360 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,479 Speaker 2: don't see that. Okay, Okay, we're and we're gonna move 361 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: on real quick. But it's not tricking. 362 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: But then you you do it long enough, like. 363 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: What's going on here? So you're getting it? Yeah? I 364 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 2: get you, Yeah, I get it. 365 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: Hit hit a game winner today, went to the court, 366 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: hit a game winner. 367 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: Why wasn't I invited to the Okay, Jim, that's crazy. 368 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: It's outside. There's like what you. 369 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: Say earlier, I'm playing you know one story, look crazy? 370 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: Remember Jamal said he played in Bahamas. He played for 371 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: a game. 372 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: Right. 373 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm working out for the Boston Celtics in the pre draft, 374 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: like when I'm coming out for the draft, and I 375 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: had a family member that lived out in Boston, and 376 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: it is one of my family members where no matter 377 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: where we're at, we're playing hoop. We go to the 378 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: outdoor court in Boston. I don't even know where it was. 379 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: This is a day before my pre draft workout. 380 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 381 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm playing five on five on an outdoor court in Boston. 382 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: That's the real love for the game, bro. I'm playing 383 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: for hours, and I got a real pre draft workout 384 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: with the Celtics. 385 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: I don't even know how that workout with. 386 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: Because if the agents heard that, now, oh my agent 387 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: would have been hot. Yeah, nobody's doing that. That's crazy 388 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: that I did that. I was tripping so much. Bad 389 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: things could have happened, but I wasn't even I wasn't 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: even tripping on that. I was just trying to play basketball. 391 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: That's what's crazy, all right, Rare, I was. 392 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 2: Looking like a lot of interactions with Disney. 393 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 5: Hell yeah, song going. 394 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: You're a Disney fan and the relationship you guys had. 395 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Nipsey Hustle. My favorite, my favorite 396 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustle song. I got two, So there's one on 397 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: his his so his his album, Victory Lap. The first 398 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: song Victory Lap is probably like when I'm working out 399 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: and like I'm tired of fucking I need just some 400 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: extra juice. I'm putting Victory Lap on, So that's number one. 401 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: And then. 402 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: The song That's how I knew by Nipsey Hustle. So 403 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: Nipsey Austle was one of my close friends. Rest in peace. 404 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustle, it was. It's like one of the most 405 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: inspiring dudes that I've ever been around. I actually talked 406 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: to his brother today, Black Sam, because I was about 407 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: to go to the marathon Burger but. 408 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: I was just a little busy. 409 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: That's where you was, Oh yeah, yeah, I'm every time 410 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm in LA, I'm going. 411 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Every time I was. 412 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: Mad, I didn't go, so I shout out to Black Sam. 413 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: But Nipsey Hustle, like was inspiring not only in my 414 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: career but in my life. His music is still I 415 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: listen to it every day. It's crazy because like any 416 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: gym I'm in, I'm listening to Nipsey Hustle. Anybody asks 417 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: what music I'm saying, I'm listening to its Nipsey Hustle. 418 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: It's like I can only imagine the music he would 419 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: be making right now. And that's one thing I always like, 420 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: I wish that could happen, Like I can have a 421 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: conversation with him, because he was just so anytime I 422 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: tapped with tapped in with him, whether it be I 423 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: call him at one in the morning, he'll call me 424 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: or he'll text me, and he'll just be mutual inspiration, 425 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: like right when you need it, And that's what he 426 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: was to everybody. So like I just especially during today's world, 427 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: like I wish his music was out because it would 428 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: speak to what we need and we need a lot 429 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: of positivity. And I think he was obviously you know, oh, 430 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: but he was about to change the world in so 431 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: many levels. So you know, the marathon continues, slow grind 432 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: is based off basically, you know everything the marathon is 433 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: based off, and it was it was like an honor 434 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: to be able to be a close friend as such 435 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: an inspiring human being. 436 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 2: So shout out to Nip. It's dope all right. At 437 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: the moment, VJ. 438 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: Edgecombe is plus twelve thousand to win Rookie of the 439 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 3: Year in the DraftKings sportsbook app, which puts some third 440 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: behind kan Koin Nipple and Cooper Flag. Now, VJ is 441 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: a guy that we've talked a bit about because we 442 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: just love his game, is energy in his story. So 443 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: it t what do you think VJ would need to 444 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: lock in on the rest of the season to win 445 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 3: that award and what could he build on his final 446 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: stretch of games. 447 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is winning most importantly, but 448 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: also you gotta end the season how you started it. 449 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: How you started the season, VJ amazing, So you got 450 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: to end it on a note that where the people 451 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: are going to remember what you've done this season, and 452 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: I think he has a good shot at doing that. 453 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: So shout out to VJ. 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Uh in G one, what do you see 474 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: in the state of falls of athletics and just house 475 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 5: the state. 476 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: Of Yeah, it's it's in a tough spot right now. 477 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: To answer your first question, the G League and the 478 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: guys that are being professional going back to college like that, 479 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: you're taking away an opportunity from a younger kid, and 480 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: me being a me coaching younger kids now, especially like 481 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: high schoolers and all that, it's only taking away the 482 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: opportunity from somebody that eight five, seven years ago would 483 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: have that opportunity of getting a D one scholarship and 484 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: getting a Division two scholarship and going through that process 485 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: and getting that opportunity. It's just not right. The NIL 486 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: is dope, like it's dope that they're making money. They 487 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: should be making money. I think there should be rules 488 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: on it. There should be rules on the NCAA around that. 489 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: But now that they went head first and didn't have 490 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: any rules around it, it's going to be hard to 491 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: scale back on what they really need to do. And 492 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: then the transfer portal is up to because now guys 493 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: are chasing money, which is dope because this is probably 494 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: the most money they can make in their lifetime, which 495 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: they should be able to. 496 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: Receive anything that they earn and deserve. 497 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm all for that, but being able to just dip 498 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: each and every year and chase a dollar is not 499 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: teaching these eighteen to twenty one year old kids anything 500 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: because you can use the money against another school by saying, Okay, 501 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: you don't do the right thing, I'm gonna go somewhere else, 502 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: find somebody that's gonna allow me to do some boy, 503 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get more money for it. That's not right. 504 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: So the integrity of the game is kind of taking 505 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: a hit. But it's not the kids fault at all. 506 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: If you allow me to dip when I want to, 507 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm dipping too. If you allow me to get more 508 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: brand somewhere else, I'm getting more bread somewhere else. So 509 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't like when people fault the kid. They just 510 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: doing what they're supposed to do. But there should be 511 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: rules and regulations on those things. The G League thing, 512 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: you shouldn't once you leave college, you shouldn't be able 513 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: to go back. 514 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: You just shouldn't. 515 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: First off, you're old as hell playing against kids, and 516 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: then second off, like you're really taking the opportunity from 517 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: a kid, because check this out. A college coach, his 518 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: job is on the line each and every year. He 519 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: has to win. If he doesn't win, he's gonna get fired. 520 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: He has no time to develop a young kid that's 521 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: coming in. It's eighteen years old. So if i'm him 522 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: and what most college coaches are doing, I'm going and 523 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: then the transfers poortal. I'm getting a twenty year old 524 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: there's already been in college for two years that. 525 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: I know can help me right now. And that's fucked up. 526 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: But that's just how it is, and that's how where 527 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: the game is going to, where they have no time 528 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: to develop because the turnover is so fast in all 529 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: levels of the game other than high school college, the pros, 530 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: you don't win, and when you're one or two, you're 531 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: done and there's no time to develop, and the only 532 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: real talent is when you can develop. 533 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: The stars had time to develop, So. 534 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: It's it's the game is in the tough space and 535 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: the outside influence is making it tougher. So you know, 536 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: I pray for these kids each and every night because 537 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: they're in they're in situations where we've never been in 538 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: with the amount of money they're being thrown at, and 539 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: it's hard to trust anybody that's in their circle because 540 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, these kids are eighteen 541 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: twenty years. 542 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: Old making millions of dollars. 543 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: How you're going to trust somebody that's never had it 544 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: and never been in your shoes. So I feel for 545 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: those kids, but hopefully, you know, years down the line 546 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: there they're become rules and you can't just you know, 547 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: play with the system because at the end of the day, 548 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: that's all everybody's doing is finding the loopholes around the system, 549 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: and they're loud so that you're able to do it 550 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: and they you can't get punished for it. 551 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: So hopefully it changes soon. 552 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: But I'm all for them guys making as much money 553 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: as they can, because you know, when when it stops, 554 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: it really stops, especially if you're not if you're not, like, 555 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: you don't got personality, you don't get you know, skills 556 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: in anything else other than the game. When the ball stops, 557 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: they don't really want you around like that because you're 558 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: not you're not useful. 559 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: So that's tough, all right. 560 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: One one last banger question no pressure. All right, my 561 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: brother's raising his hand. My brother, I'm a Lakers fan. 562 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: My brother die hard Celtics fan. 563 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: Okay, that's dope. 564 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: That is my question. 565 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 5: You just told me that your dad grew up. 566 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: Man, you got there. 567 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 5: We were supposed to be growing ups and Celtics fan. 568 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: I kept that, what's that like? 569 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 5: So you're dressing up. 570 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm watching you. 571 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 6: I'm like, I know you're the man in out the city. 572 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: I'm seeing you wearing Kobe's green Kobe's. 573 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: That's yeah, it does suck. 574 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: But it was like even for my dad, Like my 575 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: dad was really like rocking with the Lakers. 576 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: Still. 577 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, you're tripping, fam But you know, like 578 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be a Laker fan. That's just what 579 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: I grew up on. So like when I when I 580 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: was in Boston, it's just you just can't say nothing Lakers. 581 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: You can't say nothing la. That's the only that's the 582 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: only downside of it. But it was like at least 583 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: my Kobe's was green, Like that wasn't a triple that, 584 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, my Kobe's wasn't green. But I don't know, 585 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: It's it's a weird dynamic, but I got love for 586 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: the Celtics obviously, but I got real love for the 587 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: Legers and I let that be known while I was 588 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: there too, So that couldn't that couldn't be that bad 589 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: at me. 590 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: I just was going for the Celtics when I was 591 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 2: on the Celtics. That's dope. 592 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 3: Well, guys, again, we really appreciate you guys checking out 593 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: the podcast and coming out tonight. Let's give it up 594 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 3: for Isaiah thomask. 595 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: You, thank you, thank you. 596 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Hey, I gotta give but yeah, obviously a big shout 597 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: out to you like you've been You've been helpful in 598 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: in this transition of just you know, trying this. This 599 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: is new for me, so I always got to give 600 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: you a shout out and give you your flowers and 601 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, the whole follow through team, Like it's been 602 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: a easy. It's been easy each and every week being 603 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: able to record and being able to do the podcast, 604 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: which it wasn't ever on my radar. 605 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 2: So I appreciate you. 606 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody that's been out here like this is dope. 607 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: Like I didn't think we would do an event and. 608 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Then everybody would show up just to hear hear me 609 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: talk about some little stories, but like I really, like, 610 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, like everybody that's in here, 611 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: I always appreciate the love and support, whether it be 612 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, by a social media, whether it be you 613 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: dming me just showing me the love that you guys 614 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: show me, even being here like that shit means the 615 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: world to me. So like this is my thanks to 616 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: you guys for being here. I'm not no little cliche 617 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: little athlete either, so I'm. 618 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: Not just saying that. 619 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: It truly means a lot for me to come here 620 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: and see the support no matter where I'm at in 621 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: the world, Like y'all really show up for me each 622 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: and every time, and that's like super thankful. 623 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm super grateful. 624 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: And all these moments are just like like play back 625 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: in my head each and every day and I never 626 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: forget it. 627 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: So thank you guys for it all. 628 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: Thank you everyone,